| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | hi superfly and all others | 06:42 |
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| nlsthzn | Goeie more Suid Afrika :p | 06:43 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 06:43 |
| magespawn | good morning za | 06:59 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 06:59 |
| Kilos | magespawn, try member with noobs that want to install ubuntu to remind them to disconnect othe drives beforehand | 07:01 |
| magespawn | that is a good idea if they are not used to using a partition manager when installing | 07:02 |
| Kilos | and give this command to hectic if im outside maybe please | 07:03 |
| Kilos | sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 | 07:03 |
| magespawn | that is fix the file system yes? | 07:03 |
| Kilos | he installed 12.04 but whole 2tb second drive is now empty | 07:03 |
| magespawn | ouch | 07:04 |
| Kilos | he said it has/had lots of data on | 07:04 |
| magespawn | did he try to recover it? | 07:04 |
| Kilos | we were looking for options last night | 07:04 |
| Kilos | disk utility sees it as empty | 07:05 |
| Kilos | wb nlsthzn | 07:05 |
| Kilos | last resort will be data recovery | 07:05 |
| nlsthzn | my keabord works again after setting it to the right type :p | 07:06 |
| Kilos | i think that fsck command will sort him though | 07:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:06 |
| Kilos | asrab keyboard | 07:06 |
| Kilos | arab as well | 07:06 |
| magespawn | let me go scroll quickly | 07:06 |
| magespawn | HecticZA Kilos? | 07:06 |
| Kilos | ya | 07:07 |
| nlsthzn | nah the wrong version of US | 07:08 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 07:08 |
| Kilos | haha | 07:08 |
| Kilos | so what you think magespawn ? | 07:43 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: your "keabord"? | 07:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:47 |
| Kilos | wbb | 08:01 |
| magespawn | superfly you got a second? | 08:05 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 08:05 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 09:21 |
| Kilos | ready for monday nights meeing? | 09:21 |
| Vince-0 | oh haai | 09:24 |
| Vince-0 | yar | 09:24 |
| Kilos | good | 09:24 |
| HecticZA | Morning :) | 09:27 |
| Kilos | hi HecticZA | 09:28 |
| HecticZA | Hi Kilos:) | 09:28 |
| Kilos | got something you can try to find the 2tb data | 09:28 |
| HecticZA | oh? I must just add that I took it out and connected to the Windows system and the partition is gone. I do not have sufficient space to recover the data. | 09:29 |
| Kilos | open a terminal and copy paste this there | 09:29 |
| Kilos | we can fix it im sure | 09:30 |
| HecticZA | but am willing to try anything | 09:30 |
| HecticZA | k | 09:30 |
| Kilos | is there data there you need to save | 09:30 |
| Kilos | put the drive back first | 09:30 |
| HecticZA | would like to yes, but i buggered it somehow, so would not cry too many tears | 09:31 |
| HecticZA | I have | 09:31 |
| Kilos | always remember to diconnect other drives power cord when installing | 09:31 |
| Kilos | we can save it im sure | 09:31 |
| HecticZA | k:) | 09:32 |
| Kilos | ubuntu has great recovery tools | 09:36 |
| HecticZA | ? | 09:36 |
| Kilos | is the drive back? | 09:36 |
| HecticZA | yes | 09:36 |
| Kilos | open terminal | 09:36 |
| HecticZA | ready | 09:37 |
| Kilos | copy paste | 09:37 |
| Kilos | sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 | 09:37 |
| HecticZA | Im on a netbook here. let me change to the pc | 09:38 |
| Kilos | that should check the filesystem of the 2tb | 09:38 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:38 |
| Kilos | you can also type the command in | 09:39 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:40 |
| HecticZA | ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 | 09:41 |
| HecticZA | [sudo] password for ronald: | 09:41 |
| HecticZA | fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 | 09:41 |
| HecticZA | e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) | 09:41 |
| HecticZA | fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1 | 09:41 |
| HecticZA | Possibly non-existent device? | 09:41 |
| Kilos | ok now | 09:42 |
| Kilos | this is the data recovery tools | 09:42 |
| Kilos | but first open that disk utility again | 09:43 |
| HecticZA | It is open | 09:43 |
| Kilos | does it see the drive? | 09:43 |
| HecticZA | It does | 09:44 |
| Kilos | tick check filesystem | 09:44 |
| Kilos | whats happening? ive never used this thing before | 09:45 |
| HecticZA | I do not see the option. Remember there is no partition according to Linux. | 09:46 |
| Kilos | ok close it | 09:46 |
| HecticZA | I can add a partition, format and Smart data which can run tests | 09:47 |
| HecticZA | ok | 09:47 |
| Kilos | then in terminal | 09:47 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install testdisk scalpel foremost | 09:47 |
| Kilos | those are data recovery tools | 09:48 |
| HecticZA | How do I copy from this screen? | 09:48 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 09:48 |
| Kilos | ctrlc is copy | 09:48 |
| Kilos | ctrl+c | 09:48 |
| HecticZA | ah okay | 09:48 |
| Kilos | and ctrl+v is paste here | 09:48 |
| Kilos | but in the terminal it will right click paste | 09:49 |
| HecticZA | Yeah I know the commands, but did not realize they would work in Linux | 09:49 |
| HecticZA | Y | 09:49 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:49 |
| Kilos | magespawn, you here? | 09:49 |
| nlsthzn | wow, epic saturday for rugby... | 09:50 |
| Kilos | yeah nlsthzn | 09:50 |
| Kilos | but late this avy | 09:50 |
| HecticZA | Jip nlsthzn | 09:50 |
| HecticZA | Okay done Kilos | 09:50 |
| Kilos | ok now you gotta do evrything from cli | 09:51 |
| Kilos | cli=terminal | 09:51 |
| HecticZA | k | 09:51 |
| Kilos | you dont have space to let it save so youll have to untick the save block when the window opens | 09:52 |
| Kilos | sudo testdisk | 09:52 |
| HecticZA | k | 09:53 |
| Kilos | dont record anything is the block you need to use | 09:53 |
| Kilos | does it show the drive? | 09:54 |
| HecticZA | K. Must I enter on it now? | 09:54 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:54 |
| HecticZA | Must I paste the output? It detected both drives | 09:55 |
| Kilos | np lemme look what i see | 09:55 |
| Kilos | scroll to the 2tb | 09:55 |
| Kilos | and tick p[roceed | 09:55 |
| Kilos | proceed | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | K. | 09:56 |
| Kilos | it takes ages with a big drive like that | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - ST2000DL003-9VT166 | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done. | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | >[Intel ] Intel/PC partition | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...) | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [Humax ] Humax partition table | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [Mac ] Apple partition map | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [None ] Non partitioned media | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [Sun ] Sun Solaris partition | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [XBox ] XBox partition | 09:56 |
| HecticZA | [Return ] Return to disk selection | 09:56 |
| Kilos | intel i think | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | Intel? | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | k | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63 | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | >[ Analyse ] Analyse current partition structure and search for lost partitions | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | [ Advanced ] Filesystem Utils | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | [ Geometry ] Change disk geometry | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | [ Options ] Modify options | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | [ MBR Code ] Write TestDisk MBR code to first sector | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | [ Delete ] Delete all data in the partition table | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | [ Quit ] Return to disk selection | 09:57 |
| Kilos | mbr | 09:57 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63 | 09:58 |
| HecticZA | Write a new copy of MBR code to first sector? (Y/N) | 09:58 |
| Kilos | y | 09:58 |
| HecticZA | I assume yes? | 09:58 |
| HecticZA | It tells me I must reboot | 09:59 |
| Kilos | ok then maybe that command will see the drive | 09:59 |
| HecticZA | Ok | 09:59 |
| magespawn | Kilos yes, bit distrcted though | 09:59 |
| magespawn | distracted | 10:00 |
| Kilos | sorry magespawn i just wanted someone to check if i give bad advice | 10:00 |
| magespawn | looks good so far | 10:00 |
| Kilos | i dunno where i put my blog on data recovery | 10:00 |
| Kilos | need to hunt some | 10:01 |
| magespawn | fish one is here with me and is on Khan Academy learning how to draw via simple code | 10:03 |
| Kilos | wb HecticZA | 10:03 |
| HecticZA | Thx | 10:03 |
| Kilos | sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 | 10:04 |
| HecticZA | ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | [sudo] password for ronald: | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | /dev/sdb1 is mounted. | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted. If you continue you ***WILL*** | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage. | 10:05 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 10:05 |
| HecticZA | Do you really want to continue<n>? | 10:05 |
| Kilos | ok wait HecticZA | 10:06 |
| HecticZA | sdb1 is my boot drive (80GB) | 10:06 |
| Kilos | sudo umount /dev/sdb1 | 10:06 |
| Kilos | wait | 10:06 |
| HecticZA | k | 10:06 |
| Kilos | the 2tb is seem as what in the disk utility | 10:06 |
| HecticZA | /dev/sda | 10:07 |
| Kilos | sdc or sda | 10:07 |
| Kilos | ok | 10:07 |
| Kilos | sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 | 10:07 |
| HecticZA | ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1 | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | Possibly non-existent device? | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | ronald@ronald-media:~$ | 10:08 |
| Kilos | ok lets try another way | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | I do not have a sda1. I think because there is no partition? | 10:08 |
| Kilos | i just need to find something | 10:08 |
| HecticZA | k | 10:09 |
| Kilos | the program we want is boot-repair | 10:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google boot-repair for 12.04 | 10:09 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "How to Repair GRUB2 When Ubuntu Won't Boot - How-To Geek" http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/ :: "Install Boot Repair utility in Ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04 | ITworld" http://www.itworld.com/software/319339/install-boot-repair- | 10:09 |
| Maaz | utility-ubuntu-1210-or-1204 :: "[boot-repair] Windows 8 / Ubuntu 12.04 dual boot problem - U… | 10:09 |
| Kilos | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update | 10:10 |
| Kilos | then | 10:11 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &) | 10:11 |
| HecticZA | k | 10:11 |
| Kilos | in dash type in boot-repair | 10:12 |
| Kilos | and open it | 10:13 |
| HecticZA | It seems Boot repair has autorun and as I typed here options popped up and was activate while I was typing in Xchat | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | Boot successfully repaired. | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | Please write on a paper the following URL: | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5789256/ | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | In case you still experience boot problem, indicate this URL to: | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | boot.repair@gmail.com or to your favorite support forum. | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | You can now reboot your computer. | 10:14 |
| Kilos | oh ya that was part of the command sorry | 10:14 |
| HecticZA | Will reboot. See now | 10:14 |
| Kilos | ok | 10:15 |
| Kilos | wb HecticZA | 10:17 |
| HecticZA | Thx | 10:17 |
| Kilos | we need to know what that drives name is | 10:18 |
| HecticZA | disk utility? | 10:18 |
| Kilos | do you see it in home now | 10:18 |
| HecticZA | Nope. No drives there | 10:19 |
| Kilos | eish | 10:19 |
| Kilos | ok use disk utility | 10:19 |
| HecticZA | where do I see the name? | 10:20 |
| HecticZA | Is it dev/sda? | 10:20 |
| Kilos | when you tick on the 2tb it will open | 10:20 |
| Kilos | lemme open disk utility and see | 10:21 |
| Kilos | ya tick on the 2tb and it opens and on the right near the top it will show | 10:22 |
| Kilos | next to device | 10:22 |
| HecticZA | /dev/sda | 10:23 |
| Kilos | ok | 10:23 |
| Kilos | you got 2 sata ports you using? | 10:23 |
| HecticZA | Only using one of the 2 | 10:24 |
| Kilos | normally /sda is in the ide port | 10:24 |
| Kilos | oh is the 2tb an ide? | 10:24 |
| Kilos | or is the 80g an ide | 10:25 |
| HecticZA | No, it is SATA and the 80GB is ide | 10:25 |
| Kilos | normally the ide shows as sda | 10:25 |
| Kilos | anyway try the fsck command again | 10:26 |
| HecticZA | It did when the 2TB was removed | 10:26 |
| Kilos | sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 | 10:26 |
| HecticZA | ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | [sudo] password for ronald: | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1 | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | Possibly non-existent device? | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | ronald@ronald-media:~$ | 10:28 |
| Kilos | grrr | 10:28 |
| HecticZA | Shouldn't I create a partition on the 2 TB? | 10:28 |
| Kilos | if you create one all data is gone | 10:28 |
| Kilos | testdisk should sort that | 10:29 |
| HecticZA | oh okay. Will keep that as last option then | 10:29 |
| Kilos | sudo testdisk | 10:29 |
| HecticZA | k | 10:30 |
| HecticZA | create, append, no log | 10:30 |
| Kilos | sec lemme see | 10:30 |
| Kilos | you have disk utility open? | 10:30 |
| HecticZA | yes | 10:31 |
| Kilos | check filesystem | 10:31 |
| HecticZA | I do not see that option | 10:32 |
| Kilos | might need to mount volume first | 10:33 |
| Kilos | do you see that at least\ | 10:34 |
| HecticZA | No | 10:34 |
| Kilos | just tick you 80g there and see if the options appear | 10:34 |
| HecticZA | Yes they do | 10:34 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:35 |
| HecticZA | I think only if there is a partition will those be options | 10:35 |
| Kilos | go back to testdisk | 10:35 |
| Kilos | no log | 10:35 |
| HecticZA | k | 10:36 |
| Kilos | ya but we want to find the data first | 10:36 |
| Kilos | if you create parts there you will lose data | 10:36 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - ST2000DL003-9VT166 | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done. | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | >[Intel ] Intel/PC partition | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...) | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [Humax ] Humax partition table | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [Mac ] Apple partition map | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [None ] Non partitioned media | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [Sun ] Sun Solaris partition | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [XBox ] XBox partition | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | [Return ] Return to disk selection | 10:37 |
| Kilos | intel | 10:37 |
| HecticZA | >[ Analyse ] Analyse current partition structure and search for lost partitions | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | [ Advanced ] Filesystem Utils | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | [ Geometry ] Change disk geometry | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | [ Options ] Modify options | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | [ MBR Code ] Write TestDisk MBR code to first sector | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | [ Delete ] Delete all data in the partition table | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | [ Quit ] Return to disk selection | 10:38 |
| Kilos | analyse | 10:38 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63 | 10:39 |
| HecticZA | Current partition structure: | 10:39 |
| HecticZA | Partition Start End Size in sectors | 10:39 |
| HecticZA | No partition is bootable | 10:39 |
| HecticZA | *=Primary bootable P=Primary L=Logical E=Extended D=Deleted | 10:39 |
| Kilos | p | 10:39 |
| Kilos | somewhere in all those things there is a place to make it bootable | 10:40 |
| HecticZA | Not an option. Only to Quit quick search | 10:40 |
| Kilos | i dont remember which one | 10:40 |
| Kilos | ok quit and go options | 10:41 |
| HecticZA | Should TestDisk search for partition created under Vista or later ? [Y/N] | 10:41 |
| HecticZA | (answer Yes if unsure) | 10:41 |
| Kilos | y | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243202 255 63 | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | Partition Start End Size in sectors | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | >* HPFS - NTFS 0 1 1 243200 254 63 3907024002 | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | Structure: Ok. Use Up/Down Arrow keys to select partition. | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | Use Left/Right Arrow keys to CHANGE partition characteristics: | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | *=Primary bootable P=Primary L=Logical E=Extended D=Deleted | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | Keys A: add partition, L: load backup, T: change type, P: list files, | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | Enter: to continue | 10:42 |
| HecticZA | NTFS, 2000 GB / 1863 GiB | 10:42 |
| Kilos | enter | 10:43 |
| HecticZA | Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243202 255 63 | 10:44 |
| HecticZA | Partition Start End Size in sectors | 10:44 |
| HecticZA | 1 * HPFS - NTFS 0 1 1 243200 254 63 3907024002 | 10:44 |
| HecticZA | [ Quit ] >[Deeper Search] [ Write ] | 10:44 |
| HecticZA | Try to find more partitions | 10:44 |
| Kilos | deeper search | 10:44 |
| HecticZA | Ok this is going to take a while | 10:44 |
| Kilos | ok i should be here | 10:45 |
| Kilos | next you can tick write | 10:45 |
| Kilos | it should make it visible to fsck | 10:45 |
| HecticZA | ok. Can I ask something else in the meantime? | 10:45 |
| Kilos | yes | 10:46 |
| Kilos | dont ask if you can ask just ask | 10:46 |
| Kilos | ive been told that often | 10:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:46 |
| magespawn | hah @ Kilos | 10:46 |
| magespawn | Kilos: you are now one of the channel experts | 10:49 |
| Kilos | whew magespawn this is hard without the drive here | 10:49 |
| Kilos | no man | 10:49 |
| HecticZA | I had dual boot system with XP and Peppermint 3. Bothe hardrives had folders shared for Windows and Linux. I eventually decided to just instal 10.04 and deleted the 80GB hdd partition and created a new partition and made ext4 partition. and 3MB swap drive and installed Ubuntu. Is that procedure correct? I kow nothing about the ext4 etc | 10:49 |
| Kilos | i think i need to start studying all the things | 10:50 |
| Kilos | 3m is too little for swap | 10:50 |
| HecticZA | Kilos if I install teamviewer you can take my pc? | 10:50 |
| Kilos | 2g is good | 10:50 |
| magespawn | HecticZA: sounds fine, ext4 is default file system now | 10:51 |
| HecticZA | Okay will check on that swap drive | 10:51 |
| Kilos | teamviewer dont work on ubuntu | 10:51 |
| HecticZA | Is that good or bad magespawn ? | 10:51 |
| HecticZA | It does? | 10:51 |
| magespawn | how much swap you need depends on your usage nad how much ram is installed | 10:51 |
| HecticZA | I use it regurly? | 10:51 |
| HecticZA | 1GB | 10:51 |
| HecticZA | old pc | 10:51 |
| magespawn | ext4 is a journaling file system so that means it is more resistant to failure tha NTFS or fat | 10:52 |
| Kilos | we use other remote destop tools | 10:52 |
| HecticZA | I think my swap drive might be 3GB | 10:52 |
| HecticZA | Oh ok Kilos | 10:53 |
| Kilos | thats fine but shouldnt be more than twice your ram | 10:53 |
| HecticZA | I read somewhere you can change the swap size? I will look at that a bit later | 10:53 |
| Kilos | the swap keeps stuff that isnt being used at the moment | 10:54 |
| Kilos | to save ram | 10:54 |
| Kilos | it wont do harm if its 3g | 10:54 |
| HecticZA | Ok thx | 10:54 |
| Kilos | just wont all be used | 10:54 |
| Kilos | if that deeper search finds the rest things are looking up | 10:55 |
| HecticZA | I would be sooooo greatful. Only 2% done | 10:56 |
| Kilos | after the write it should then be a bootable drive again | 10:56 |
| magespawn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 there are options when it comes to this, but i like ext and have not had problems with it | 10:56 |
| Kilos | ext4 is the best | 10:56 |
| HecticZA | It never was bootable though? | 10:56 |
| Kilos | win pcs cant see it | 10:56 |
| HecticZA | Ooh. That is not so cool | 10:57 |
| Kilos | oh is the 2tb just storage | 10:57 |
| HecticZA | I always have a shared folder on it | 10:57 |
| HecticZA | Yes Kilos, just data storage | 10:57 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:57 |
| HecticZA | I don't know how I buggred it up. I was soo careful to stay away from the 2TB, but I had to install Ubuntu about 5 times, so it wrong somewhere. | 10:58 |
| HecticZA | *wen | 10:58 |
| HecticZA | *went | 10:58 |
| Kilos | you shoulda just installed ubuntu on the 2tb sata is faster | 10:59 |
| HecticZA | Did wnt to risk the data on the 2TB, Lol | 10:59 |
| HecticZA | not want* | 10:59 |
| Kilos | anyway we see if the write function makes it useable | 11:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:00 |
| Kilos | well with luck on our side we will still find the data | 11:00 |
| Kilos | HecticZA, what was the other question? | 11:01 |
| HecticZA | I strugled with the Ubunt install. Only later discovered that Telkom had dropped or the connection was very slow. Language packages showed 37964:56 to complete. I thought there was something wrong with didk or it was normal for Ubuntu. Waited almost 2 hours for it to try and install. | 11:02 |
| HecticZA | Okay hold on. Need to get a link | 11:02 |
| Kilos | ubuntu installs in 25 mins | 11:04 |
| Kilos | i always install without it updating at the same time | 11:04 |
| Kilos | once installed then i update/upgrade | 11:05 |
| HecticZA | I had updates and 3rd party ticked. Only later discovered Telkom was buggered. Restarted router and finally it installed | 11:05 |
| Kilos | you can install with no internet | 11:07 |
| Kilos | much faster way i think | 11:07 |
| HecticZA | Oh did not know | 11:07 |
| magespawn | and that way you can get a working os up and running | 11:08 |
| Kilos | as i say 25 mins | 11:08 |
| Kilos | yip | 11:08 |
| HecticZA | http://peppermintos.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5666&start=0 I have issues with my screen resolution, because I'm connecting via a KVM switch. I have the same issue with Ubuntu now. The link has my solution for Peppermint. Will it work on ubuntu as well? | 11:09 |
| Kilos | ive had some probs with screen resolution but when installing the nvidia drivers it sorts itself out | 11:11 |
| Kilos | in dash type in additional | 11:12 |
| Kilos | it will look for the card drivers | 11:12 |
| HecticZA | k | 11:12 |
| HecticZA | It is using the latest proprietary driver | 11:14 |
| Kilos | good | 11:14 |
| Kilos | nvidia-173? | 11:15 |
| HecticZA | I'm not using the MVK switch now and it works perfectly, but when I use the switch it goes to 640 x 480 | 11:15 |
| HecticZA | Yes 173. | 11:15 |
| HecticZA | But that is a fight for another day | 11:15 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:16 |
| HecticZA | Why are some messages red at times? | 11:16 |
| Kilos | im using the nvidia-173-extras i think | 11:16 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 11:16 |
| HecticZA | k | 11:17 |
| Kilos | messages on here are red | 11:17 |
| Kilos | ? | 11:17 |
| HecticZA | nope | 11:17 |
| Kilos | thats if your nick is mentioned | 11:17 |
| Kilos | oh | 11:17 |
| HecticZA | ah okay | 11:17 |
| Kilos | HecticZA, like this | 11:18 |
| HecticZA | Hi Kilos | 11:18 |
| HecticZA | lol okay and mine? | 11:18 |
| Kilos | same | 11:18 |
| Kilos | red here | 11:18 |
| HecticZA | Dar leer ek alweer iets :D | 11:18 |
| Kilos | it helps one find personal messages | 11:18 |
| HecticZA | I need to do something quickly. This test is going to run for a while. Is it okay if I check back at 15:00 Would that suit you? | 11:20 |
| Kilos | np | 11:20 |
| HecticZA | Ty :) | 11:20 |
| Kilos | yw | 11:21 |
| magespawn | HecticZA: i think peppermint is based on ubuntu so it might | 11:21 |
| Kilos | debian i think ya | 11:21 |
| Kilos | Squirm, will know | 11:21 |
| Kilos | oh is peppermint and mint different | 11:22 |
| Kilos | ? | 11:22 |
| HecticZA | It is. but someone said Peppermint is based on Lbuntu I think | 11:23 |
| HecticZA | Anyways, how do I indicate that I'm away? | 11:23 |
| Kilos | at the top go settings | 11:24 |
| Kilos | preferences | 11:24 |
| HecticZA | k | 11:24 |
| Kilos | general | 11:25 |
| HecticZA | k | 11:25 |
| magespawn | or do the "/away" command | 11:25 |
| * HecticZA is away: I'm busy | 11:26 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:26 |
| HecticZA | and when I'm back? | 11:26 |
| HecticZA | same? | 11:26 |
| Kilos | whats the undo for that magespawn | 11:26 |
| * HecticZA is back (gone 00:00:41) | 11:26 | |
| * HecticZA is away: I'm busy | 11:26 | |
| * HecticZA is back (gone 00:00:06) | 11:27 | |
| magespawn | "/back' | 11:27 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 11:27 |
| HecticZA | lol. Thx | 11:27 |
| HecticZA | well this time im gone for real. See later | 11:27 |
| Kilos | later | 11:27 |
| * HecticZA is away: I'm busy | 11:27 | |
| magespawn | that was nogal hectic lol | 11:42 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:42 |
| Kilos | so hard without the drive here | 11:43 |
| magespawn | one of the ways i have found to do this is to write out a step by step procedure | 11:43 |
| Kilos | yeah but finding where you saved it sucks | 11:44 |
| magespawn | print it out maybe, and put it a file or bind them together | 11:45 |
| Kilos | eek too many papers already | 11:46 |
| Kilos | burned half or more even | 11:46 |
| Kilos | books full of info | 11:46 |
| magespawn | maybe some sort of electronic file system that allows you to search file via keywords | 11:47 |
| Kilos | eish thats even more thinking | 11:47 |
| magespawn | ah well that we cn't get away from | 11:48 |
| magespawn | can't | 11:48 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:48 |
| Kilos | better to just leave clever peeps to help noobs | 11:48 |
| magespawn | i think you did fine there | 11:48 |
| Kilos | its not fixed yet but lets hope hey | 11:49 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:49 |
| Kilos | would maybe have been easier using a ubcd disk | 11:50 |
| magespawn | maybe | 11:51 |
| magespawn | home time for me, later all | 12:26 |
| Kilos | later magespawn | 12:27 |
| HecticZA | Im back | 13:00 |
| HecticZA | hddd 245 done :( | 13:00 |
| HecticZA | good grief. | 13:00 |
| HecticZA | Hdd at 24% | 13:00 |
| Kilos | wb HecticZA | 13:01 |
| Kilos | ya recoveries take long on slow pcs | 13:01 |
| HecticZA | Thx Kilos :) | 13:01 |
| Kilos | but its a big drive | 13:02 |
| HecticZA | Yes I understand. | 13:02 |
| Kilos | also adding ram will help your pc | 13:02 |
| Kilos | ubuntu loves ram | 13:02 |
| HecticZA | It is DDr400 :( | 13:02 |
| Kilos | they only come in 1g max i think | 13:03 |
| Kilos | and hard to find | 13:03 |
| HecticZA | Can I ask about ppa? Yes you are correct | 13:03 |
| Kilos | my pc also uses ddr but i dunno which | 13:03 |
| Kilos | what about ppa? | 13:04 |
| HecticZA | AS I understand it, it is 3rd party drivers or apps and you need to add it, but how do you know the names you need to add? | 13:05 |
| Kilos | most of what you need you will find in synaptic | 13:05 |
| Kilos | then there is a command for adding ppa's but i dunno that | 13:06 |
| Kilos | like the one we used for boot-repair | 13:06 |
| HecticZA | I'v eseen the command and I have notes on it, but it is a mystery for me where the ppl find the name. | 13:07 |
| Kilos | yeah me too | 13:07 |
| Kilos | what | 13:07 |
| Kilos | um | 13:07 |
| Kilos | i forgot now | 13:07 |
| Kilos | but normally one can google what you want and you find commands there but normally ask here first | 13:09 |
| Kilos | but always check synaptic first | 13:09 |
| HecticZA | Yeah, looks that might be the best for me. | 13:10 |
| HecticZA | I had to type this to get the PS3 media server: | 13:11 |
| Kilos | most stuff that needs doing someone here has done before so they know the ropes | 13:11 |
| HecticZA | Sudo add-aptrepository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver | 13:11 |
| HecticZA | sudo apt-get update | 13:11 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:11 |
| HecticZA | sudo apt-get install ps3mediaserver | 13:12 |
| HecticZA | and I basically understand everything but the happy-neko thing | 13:12 |
| HecticZA | Is there a place I can look for installed programs and apps? | 13:14 |
| HecticZA | I know now about the dash search, but if I'm not sure what a program is called? | 13:14 |
| Kilos | whew im the wrong one to ask such serious things | 13:15 |
| Kilos | type in | 13:15 |
| Kilos | lspci | 13:15 |
| Kilos | that shows somethging | 13:15 |
| HecticZA | lol okay | 13:15 |
| HecticZA | ah, that shows hardware | 13:16 |
| Kilos | ok | 13:16 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google how to see installed apps on ubuntu | 13:17 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "How to list user installed applications (not packages)? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/159664/how-to-list-user-installed-applications-not-packages :: "Is there any simple way to access installed programs? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/148100/is-there-any-simple-way-to-access-installed-programs :: "See all of your installed | 13:17 |
| Maaz | applications in Ubuntu Unity" http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/see_all_your_instal… | 13:17 |
| Kilos | everyone tells me google is my friend but i dunno so much | 13:17 |
| Kilos | 12.04 goes well with 1.5g ram and better with 2gig | 13:19 |
| HecticZA | ok. Thx for the links Maaz. I will save them. | 13:20 |
| Kilos | he is our python bot written and hosted by the guys | 13:21 |
| HecticZA | ? So he is not a member? | 13:22 |
| Kilos | no its a bot | 13:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 13:22 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 13:22 | |
| HecticZA | Wow. Is there a specific way to ask questions? | 13:23 |
| Kilos | if you ask coffee please he will make you some cyber coffee too | 13:23 |
| HecticZA | LoL | 13:23 |
| Kilos | use his nick first then the rest | 13:23 |
| HecticZA | Maaz How old is Nelson Mandela | 13:24 |
| Maaz | HecticZA: I already know stuff about How old | 13:24 |
| Kilos | he records our meetings and does lotsa stuff | 13:24 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 13:26 |
| Kilos | the bot package is in the repos so anyone can install one | 13:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 13:27 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 13:27 |
| Kilos | called ibid | 13:27 |
| HecticZA | Ah okay | 13:27 |
| Kilos | most of the clever guys are here at night | 13:28 |
| HecticZA | Unless there is really something important, most evening is spend with the wife or PS3 gaming. | 13:30 |
| Kilos | cool | 13:31 |
| Kilos | and wikus is quite clued up but he is only here weekdays till 3pm | 13:32 |
| HecticZA | So I cannot share any folders with Window pc's on my Ubuntu installation, because I use a ext4 partition? | 13:32 |
| HecticZA | Wikus, like in Maz? | 13:32 |
| Kilos | data files can still be seen on win | 13:33 |
| Kilos | ya mazal | 13:33 |
| HecticZA | Ah okay | 13:33 |
| Kilos | only win sees your ext4 drives as unformatted | 13:34 |
| Kilos | or doesnt even see them | 13:34 |
| HecticZA | I installed Dropbox now and now it tells me that "Nautilus" restart required" What is that? | 13:34 |
| Kilos | file thing | 13:35 |
| HecticZA | Can I restart it or will intefere with the hdd scan? | 13:35 |
| Kilos | filebrowser or somesuch | 13:35 |
| Kilos | just that window ya but dont restart pc | 13:36 |
| HecticZA | I'm rather going to wait. | 13:36 |
| Kilos | ya you dont wanna sart over again | 13:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:37 |
| HecticZA | LOl, for sure | 13:37 |
| HecticZA | maaz what is Nautilus | 13:37 |
| Maaz | HecticZA: Not a clue, sorry | 13:37 |
| HecticZA | maaz google nautilus | 13:37 |
| Maaz | HecticZA: "Nautilus® Home Fitness Equipment" http://www.nautilus.com/ :: "Nautilus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus :: "Nautilus - League of Legends Wiki - Wikia" http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Nautilus :: "Nautilus" http://nautil.us/ :: "Nautilus - GNOME Live! - GNOME Project Listing" | 13:37 |
| Maaz | http://projects.gnome.org/nautilus/ :: "Historic Ship Nautilus and The Submarine Force Museum" http://www.ussnautilus.or… | 13:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google what does nautilus do in ubuntu | 13:38 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "“nautilus” package : Ubuntu - Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus :: "How do I start Nautilus as root? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/156998/how-do-i-start-nautilus-as-root :: "What is the difference between "gksudo nautilus" and ... - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/11760/what-is-the-difference-between- | 13:38 |
| Maaz | gksudo-nautilus-and-sudo-nautilus :: "Ubuntu 12.10 May Ship With Older, But More Featured, Na… | 13:38 |
| HecticZA | Maaz does not like me :( | 13:38 |
| Kilos | look at it in synaptic | 13:38 |
| HecticZA | k | 13:39 |
| Kilos | there is normally an explannation there | 13:39 |
| Kilos | or type in man nautilus in cli | 13:39 |
| Kilos | youll get used to maaz | 13:39 |
| HecticZA | Nautilus is the official file manager for the GNOME desktop. It allows | 13:40 |
| HecticZA | to browse directories, preview files and launch applications associated | 13:40 |
| HecticZA | with them. It is also responsible for handling the icons on the GNOME | 13:40 |
| HecticZA | desktop. | 13:40 |
| Kilos | ya file manager | 13:41 |
| Kilos | i knew it was file something or other | 13:41 |
| HecticZA | 32% | 13:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:42 |
| HecticZA | Long way to go | 13:42 |
| Kilos | late night or early morning results | 13:43 |
| HecticZA | Looks like it. | 13:43 |
| Kilos | its always better to do recoveries from a larger drive | 13:43 |
| Kilos | then its all saved on youi drive | 13:44 |
| Kilos | your | 13:44 |
| HecticZA | Yeah. | 13:45 |
| Kilos | when its done the tell it to write hey | 13:45 |
| Kilos | i sleep early cause im getting older | 13:45 |
| HecticZA | I still can't believe I made the error. I double checked everytime I did drive selection :( | 13:45 |
| Kilos | better to unplug always | 13:46 |
| HecticZA | W enormally watch something till about 00:00 - 01:00, then we are off to bed as well. | 13:46 |
| Kilos | power cuts while installing also cause havok at times | 13:46 |
| HecticZA | Yeah It was just pure laziness | 13:47 |
| HecticZA | I'm worried about the power. The power to our town is very iffy and this pc is not on a UPS. | 13:47 |
| HecticZA | I'm referring to the recovery | 13:48 |
| HecticZA | pwd | 13:49 |
| HecticZA | oops | 13:49 |
| Kilos | eish | 13:49 |
| Kilos | za power sucks all over | 13:50 |
| HecticZA | True story | 13:50 |
| HecticZA | Is this channel part of a SA forum or where does it fit in? | 13:51 |
| Kilos | ya its the official channel this | 13:52 |
| Kilos | you can also join our mailing list | 13:52 |
| HecticZA | Which forum? | 13:53 |
| Kilos | http://bit.ly/MCOujZ | 13:53 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 13:53 |
| HecticZA | What is the mailing list about? Ubuntu news? | 13:55 |
| Kilos | thats nomallty where one starts asking for help | 13:57 |
| Kilos | many guys help there that dont use irc | 13:57 |
| HecticZA | oh okay. | 13:57 |
| superfly | this is the official IRC channel of the South African Ubuntu LoCo (Local Community) | 14:02 |
| superfly | the Ubuntu-ZA LoCo is an official Ubuntu community (as recognised by Canonical) | 14:02 |
| HecticZA | Thx. Is there a forum as well? | 14:03 |
| superfly | a mailing list is basically a list of e-mail addresses, and when you send an e-mail to the list, it sends your mail on to everyone | 14:03 |
| superfly | sortof. | 14:03 |
| superfly | It's not very active (maybe 1 post every 4 months) | 14:03 |
| HecticZA | Ah okay | 14:04 |
| superfly | and, as with all forums, you have a lot of people who know very little about everything | 14:04 |
| superfly | the mailing list is much better | 14:04 |
| HecticZA | LoL | 14:04 |
| HecticZA | I have subscribed now | 14:04 |
| HecticZA | It sounds like me. I know just about nothing about Linux | 14:05 |
| HecticZA | I am on by 22nd day anniversary. :D | 14:06 |
| * HecticZA is away: I'm busy | 14:11 | |
| Kilos | hehe ty superfly | 14:12 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| jmagunduni | Kilos: Whats up? | 15:21 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos | 15:29 |
| Kilos | hi guys | 15:30 |
| Kilos | jmayou fixed up now | 15:30 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:30 |
| Kilos | all good just cold hey georgelappies | 15:30 |
| georgelappies | yeah, definetly winter is upon us | 15:31 |
| Kilos | hi jmagunduni | 16:08 |
| Kilos | you still battling | 16:08 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 16:09 |
| jmagunduni | Kilos: its working , :) | 16:09 |
| Kilos | what did you do? | 16:10 |
| jmagunduni | Kilos: i opened the the terminal and typed nm-applet , it worked . | 16:11 |
| Kilos | good | 16:11 |
| === jeandre is now known as theblazehen | ||
| theblazehen | Hi all, Kilos | 16:26 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen you been scarce hey | 16:26 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, sorry. School's been a bit busy | 16:27 |
| theblazehen | And I got a new PC :D | 16:27 |
| Kilos | ah np | 16:27 |
| Kilos | cool | 16:28 |
| Kilos | what you got? | 16:28 |
| theblazehen | 2.4 GHz pentium, 3GB ram, and 40 GB HDD | 16:28 |
| theblazehen | Grandpa's old pc | 16:28 |
| Kilos | cool | 16:28 |
| theblazehen | Yea :) really enjoying it. A great improvement over my netbook | 16:29 |
| Kilos | i thought netbooks were fast | 16:33 |
| theblazehen | nope... 1.6 GHz processor, with hyperthreading, 2GB RAM and a unsupported graphics chipset | 16:35 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:35 |
| theblazehen | Yep. At most I could watch a video witha low resolution | 16:35 |
| Kilos | aw | 16:35 |
| theblazehen | I changed my text scaling and now it's all weird - http://imgur.com/0oSnFmt - Guess a reboot should fix it... | 16:39 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:39 |
| Kilos | you still on arch? | 16:40 |
| theblazehen | Nope. Moved my netbook to debian, and desktop is mint | 16:41 |
| Kilos | ai still no ubuntu | 16:41 |
| Kilos | naughty | 16:41 |
| theblazehen | arch is too much hassle for me now... Just want something that works | 16:41 |
| theblazehen | I might try it out sometime, but I like the cinnamon DE | 16:42 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| theblazehen | I just ran sudo rm -f /dev/null , let' | 16:50 |
| theblazehen | s see what happens | 16:51 |
| Kilos | hi smile4ever | 16:51 |
| smile4ever | hi :D | 16:53 |
| smile4ever | My program now supports in-program searches :D | 16:53 |
| theblazehen | smile4ever: Which program? | 16:53 |
| smile4ever | WikiList :) | 16:54 |
| theblazehen | What's it do? | 16:54 |
| smile4ever | generating lists for Wikipedia :) | 16:54 |
| theblazehen | Oh, nice | 16:54 |
| smile4ever | (especially autowikibrowser) :) | 16:54 |
| smile4ever | but it's wiki markup, so you can post those lists in articles too | 16:55 |
| smile4ever | :) | 16:55 |
| theblazehen | Ok | 16:55 |
| smile4ever | I don't support wide talk pages yet (talk_portal) :) But you don't know the Wikipedia structure, do you? :) | 16:55 |
| theblazehen | Nope! | 16:55 |
| smile4ever | It consists of namespaces, i.e. Talk:Google Chrome and Google Chrome (main namespace) | 16:56 |
| theblazehen | ok... | 16:56 |
| smile4ever | Since I wasn't satisfied with Gambas XML functionality I wrote my own XML parser :D | 16:56 |
| theblazehen | nice | 16:57 |
| theblazehen | Ok, chrome no longer works, and I cant open gnome-terminal. | 17:02 |
| smile4ever | theblazehen: Hmm, that sucks | 17:03 |
| smile4ever | try firefox? :) | 17:03 |
| theblazehen | Nope... | 17:03 |
| theblazehen | At least the tty's work | 17:04 |
| theblazehen | now to google how to restore /dev/null | 17:04 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight | 17:06 |
| smile4ever | Kilos: good night | 17:06 |
| theblazehen | night | 17:06 |
| smile4ever | :) | 17:06 |
| theblazehen | Fixed it - I think | 17:07 |
| smile4ever | Goodbye :) | 18:33 |
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