=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:42] hi superfly and all others [06:43] Goeie more Suid Afrika :p [06:43] hi nlsthzn [06:59] good morning za [06:59] hi magespawn [07:01] magespawn, try member with noobs that want to install ubuntu to remind them to disconnect othe drives beforehand [07:02] that is a good idea if they are not used to using a partition manager when installing [07:03] and give this command to hectic if im outside maybe please [07:03] sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 [07:03] that is fix the file system yes? [07:03] he installed 12.04 but whole 2tb second drive is now empty [07:04] ouch [07:04] he said it has/had lots of data on [07:04] did he try to recover it? [07:04] we were looking for options last night [07:05] disk utility sees it as empty [07:05] wb nlsthzn [07:05] last resort will be data recovery [07:06] my keabord works again after setting it to the right type :p [07:06] i think that fsck command will sort him though [07:06] lol [07:06] asrab keyboard [07:06] arab as well [07:06] let me go scroll quickly [07:06] HecticZA Kilos? [07:07] ya [07:08] nah the wrong version of US [07:08] :p [07:08] haha [07:43] so what you think magespawn ? [07:47] nlsthzn: your "keabord"? [07:47] hehe [08:01] wbb [08:05] superfly you got a second? [08:05] hi psychicist [09:21] hi Vince-0 [09:21] ready for monday nights meeing? [09:24] oh haai [09:24] yar [09:24] good [09:27] Morning :) [09:28] hi HecticZA [09:28] Hi Kilos:) [09:28] got something you can try to find the 2tb data [09:29] oh? I must just add that I took it out and connected to the Windows system and the partition is gone. I do not have sufficient space to recover the data. [09:29] open a terminal and copy paste this there [09:30] we can fix it im sure [09:30] but am willing to try anything [09:30] k [09:30] is there data there you need to save [09:30] put the drive back first [09:31] would like to yes, but i buggered it somehow, so would not cry too many tears [09:31] I have [09:31] always remember to diconnect other drives power cord when installing [09:31] we can save it im sure [09:32] k:) [09:36] ubuntu has great recovery tools [09:36] ? [09:36] is the drive back? [09:36] yes [09:36] open terminal [09:37] ready [09:37] copy paste [09:37] sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 [09:38] Im on a netbook here. let me change to the pc [09:38] that should check the filesystem of the 2tb [09:38] ok [09:39] you can also type the command in [09:40] hmm... [09:41] ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 [09:41] [sudo] password for ronald: [09:41] fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 [09:41] e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) [09:41] fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1 [09:41] Possibly non-existent device? [09:42] ok now [09:42] this is the data recovery tools [09:43] but first open that disk utility again [09:43] It is open [09:43] does it see the drive? [09:44] It does [09:44] tick check filesystem [09:45] whats happening? ive never used this thing before [09:46] I do not see the option. Remember there is no partition according to Linux. [09:46] ok close it [09:47] I can add a partition, format and Smart data which can run tests [09:47] ok [09:47] then in terminal [09:47] sudo aptitude install testdisk scalpel foremost [09:48] those are data recovery tools [09:48] How do I copy from this screen? [09:48] oh ok [09:48] ctrlc is copy [09:48] ctrl+c [09:48] ah okay [09:48] and ctrl+v is paste here [09:49] but in the terminal it will right click paste [09:49] Yeah I know the commands, but did not realize they would work in Linux [09:49] Y [09:49] ah [09:49] magespawn, you here? [09:50] wow, epic saturday for rugby... [09:50] yeah nlsthzn [09:50] but late this avy [09:50] Jip nlsthzn [09:50] Okay done Kilos [09:51] ok now you gotta do evrything from cli [09:51] cli=terminal [09:51] k [09:52] you dont have space to let it save so youll have to untick the save block when the window opens [09:52] sudo testdisk [09:53] k [09:53] dont record anything is the block you need to use [09:54] does it show the drive? [09:54] K. Must I enter on it now? [09:54] yes [09:55] Must I paste the output? It detected both drives [09:55] np lemme look what i see [09:55] scroll to the 2tb [09:55] and tick p[roceed [09:56] proceed [09:56] K. [09:56] it takes ages with a big drive like that [09:56] Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - ST2000DL003-9VT166 [09:56] Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done. [09:56] >[Intel ] Intel/PC partition [09:56] [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...) [09:56] [Humax ] Humax partition table [09:56] [Mac ] Apple partition map [09:56] [None ] Non partitioned media [09:56] [Sun ] Sun Solaris partition [09:56] [XBox ] XBox partition [09:56] [Return ] Return to disk selection [09:57] intel i think [09:57] Intel? [09:57] k [09:57] Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63 [09:57] >[ Analyse ] Analyse current partition structure and search for lost partitions [09:57] [ Advanced ] Filesystem Utils [09:57] [ Geometry ] Change disk geometry [09:57] [ Options ] Modify options [09:57] [ MBR Code ] Write TestDisk MBR code to first sector [09:57] [ Delete ] Delete all data in the partition table [09:57] [ Quit ] Return to disk selection [09:57] mbr [09:58] Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63 [09:58] Write a new copy of MBR code to first sector? (Y/N) [09:58] y [09:58] I assume yes? [09:59] It tells me I must reboot [09:59] ok then maybe that command will see the drive [09:59] Ok [09:59] Kilos yes, bit distrcted though [10:00] distracted [10:00] sorry magespawn i just wanted someone to check if i give bad advice [10:00] looks good so far [10:00] i dunno where i put my blog on data recovery [10:01] need to hunt some [10:03] fish one is here with me and is on Khan Academy learning how to draw via simple code [10:03] wb HecticZA [10:03] Thx [10:04] sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 [10:05] ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 [10:05] [sudo] password for ronald: [10:05] fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 [10:05] e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) [10:05] /dev/sdb1 is mounted. [10:05] WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted. If you continue you ***WILL*** [10:05] cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage. [10:05] hi Xethron [10:05] Do you really want to continue? [10:06] ok wait HecticZA [10:06] sdb1 is my boot drive (80GB) [10:06] sudo umount /dev/sdb1 [10:06] wait [10:06] k [10:06] the 2tb is seem as what in the disk utility [10:07] /dev/sda [10:07] sdc or sda [10:07] ok [10:07] sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 [10:08] ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 [10:08] fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 [10:08] e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) [10:08] fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1 [10:08] Possibly non-existent device? [10:08] ronald@ronald-media:~$ [10:08] ok lets try another way [10:08] I do not have a sda1. I think because there is no partition? [10:08] i just need to find something [10:09] k [10:09] the program we want is boot-repair [10:09] Maaz, google boot-repair for 12.04 [10:09] Kilos: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "How to Repair GRUB2 When Ubuntu Won't Boot - How-To Geek" http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/ :: "Install Boot Repair utility in Ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04 | ITworld" http://www.itworld.com/software/319339/install-boot-repair- [10:09] utility-ubuntu-1210-or-1204 :: "[boot-repair] Windows 8 / Ubuntu 12.04 dual boot problem - U… [10:10] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update [10:11] then [10:11] sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &) [10:11] k [10:12] in dash type in boot-repair [10:13] and open it [10:14] It seems Boot repair has autorun and as I typed here options popped up and was activate while I was typing in Xchat [10:14] Boot successfully repaired. [10:14] Please write on a paper the following URL: [10:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5789256/ [10:14] In case you still experience boot problem, indicate this URL to: [10:14] boot.repair@gmail.com or to your favorite support forum. [10:14] You can now reboot your computer. [10:14] oh ya that was part of the command sorry [10:14] Will reboot. See now [10:15] ok [10:17] wb HecticZA [10:17] Thx [10:18] we need to know what that drives name is [10:18] disk utility? [10:18] do you see it in home now [10:19] Nope. No drives there [10:19] eish [10:19] ok use disk utility [10:20] where do I see the name? [10:20] Is it dev/sda? [10:20] when you tick on the 2tb it will open [10:21] lemme open disk utility and see [10:22] ya tick on the 2tb and it opens and on the right near the top it will show [10:22] next to device [10:23] /dev/sda [10:23] ok [10:23] you got 2 sata ports you using? [10:24] Only using one of the 2 [10:24] normally /sda is in the ide port [10:24] oh is the 2tb an ide? [10:25] or is the 80g an ide [10:25] No, it is SATA and the 80GB is ide [10:25] normally the ide shows as sda [10:26] anyway try the fsck command again [10:26] It did when the 2TB was removed [10:26] sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 [10:28] ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 [10:28] [sudo] password for ronald: [10:28] fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 [10:28] e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011) [10:28] fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1 [10:28] Possibly non-existent device? [10:28] ronald@ronald-media:~$ [10:28] grrr [10:28] Shouldn't I create a partition on the 2 TB? [10:28] if you create one all data is gone [10:29] testdisk should sort that [10:29] oh okay. Will keep that as last option then [10:29] sudo testdisk [10:30] k [10:30] create, append, no log [10:30] sec lemme see [10:30] you have disk utility open? [10:31] yes [10:31] check filesystem [10:32] I do not see that option [10:33] might need to mount volume first [10:34] do you see that at least\ [10:34] No [10:34] just tick you 80g there and see if the options appear [10:34] Yes they do [10:35] ah [10:35] I think only if there is a partition will those be options [10:35] go back to testdisk [10:35] no log [10:36] k [10:36] ya but we want to find the data first [10:36] if you create parts there you will lose data [10:37] Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - ST2000DL003-9VT166 [10:37] Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done. [10:37] >[Intel ] Intel/PC partition [10:37] [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...) [10:37] [Humax ] Humax partition table [10:37] [Mac ] Apple partition map [10:37] [None ] Non partitioned media [10:37] [Sun ] Sun Solaris partition [10:37] [XBox ] XBox partition [10:37] [Return ] Return to disk selection [10:37] intel [10:38] >[ Analyse ] Analyse current partition structure and search for lost partitions [10:38] [ Advanced ] Filesystem Utils [10:38] [ Geometry ] Change disk geometry [10:38] [ Options ] Modify options [10:38] [ MBR Code ] Write TestDisk MBR code to first sector [10:38] [ Delete ] Delete all data in the partition table [10:38] [ Quit ] Return to disk selection [10:38] analyse [10:39] Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63 [10:39] Current partition structure: [10:39] Partition Start End Size in sectors [10:39] No partition is bootable [10:39] *=Primary bootable P=Primary L=Logical E=Extended D=Deleted [10:39] p [10:40] somewhere in all those things there is a place to make it bootable [10:40] Not an option. Only to Quit quick search [10:40] i dont remember which one [10:41] ok quit and go options [10:41] Should TestDisk search for partition created under Vista or later ? [Y/N] [10:41] (answer Yes if unsure) [10:42] y [10:42] Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243202 255 63 [10:42] Partition Start End Size in sectors [10:42] >* HPFS - NTFS 0 1 1 243200 254 63 3907024002 [10:42] Structure: Ok. Use Up/Down Arrow keys to select partition. [10:42] Use Left/Right Arrow keys to CHANGE partition characteristics: [10:42] *=Primary bootable P=Primary L=Logical E=Extended D=Deleted [10:42] Keys A: add partition, L: load backup, T: change type, P: list files, [10:42] Enter: to continue [10:42] NTFS, 2000 GB / 1863 GiB [10:43] enter [10:44] Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243202 255 63 [10:44] Partition Start End Size in sectors [10:44] 1 * HPFS - NTFS 0 1 1 243200 254 63 3907024002 [10:44] [ Quit ] >[Deeper Search] [ Write ] [10:44] Try to find more partitions [10:44] deeper search [10:44] Ok this is going to take a while [10:45] ok i should be here [10:45] next you can tick write [10:45] it should make it visible to fsck [10:45] ok. Can I ask something else in the meantime? [10:46] yes [10:46] dont ask if you can ask just ask [10:46] ive been told that often [10:46] hehe [10:46] hah @ Kilos [10:49] Kilos: you are now one of the channel experts [10:49] whew magespawn this is hard without the drive here [10:49] no man [10:49] I had dual boot system with XP and Peppermint 3. Bothe hardrives had folders shared for Windows and Linux. I eventually decided to just instal 10.04 and deleted the 80GB hdd partition and created a new partition and made ext4 partition. and 3MB swap drive and installed Ubuntu. Is that procedure correct? I kow nothing about the ext4 etc [10:50] i think i need to start studying all the things [10:50] 3m is too little for swap [10:50] Kilos if I install teamviewer you can take my pc? [10:50] 2g is good [10:51] HecticZA: sounds fine, ext4 is default file system now [10:51] Okay will check on that swap drive [10:51] teamviewer dont work on ubuntu [10:51] Is that good or bad magespawn ? [10:51] It does? [10:51] how much swap you need depends on your usage nad how much ram is installed [10:51] I use it regurly? [10:51] 1GB [10:51] old pc [10:52] ext4 is a journaling file system so that means it is more resistant to failure tha NTFS or fat [10:52] we use other remote destop tools [10:52] I think my swap drive might be 3GB [10:53] Oh ok Kilos [10:53] thats fine but shouldnt be more than twice your ram [10:53] I read somewhere you can change the swap size? I will look at that a bit later [10:54] the swap keeps stuff that isnt being used at the moment [10:54] to save ram [10:54] it wont do harm if its 3g [10:54] Ok thx [10:54] just wont all be used [10:55] if that deeper search finds the rest things are looking up [10:56] I would be sooooo greatful. Only 2% done [10:56] after the write it should then be a bootable drive again [10:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 there are options when it comes to this, but i like ext and have not had problems with it [10:56] ext4 is the best [10:56] It never was bootable though? [10:56] win pcs cant see it [10:57] Ooh. That is not so cool [10:57] oh is the 2tb just storage [10:57] I always have a shared folder on it [10:57] Yes Kilos, just data storage [10:57] ah [10:58] I don't know how I buggred it up. I was soo careful to stay away from the 2TB, but I had to install Ubuntu about 5 times, so it wrong somewhere. [10:58] *wen [10:58] *went [10:59] you shoulda just installed ubuntu on the 2tb sata is faster [10:59] Did wnt to risk the data on the 2TB, Lol [10:59] not want* [11:00] anyway we see if the write function makes it useable [11:00] hehe [11:00] well with luck on our side we will still find the data [11:01] HecticZA, what was the other question? [11:02] I strugled with the Ubunt install. Only later discovered that Telkom had dropped or the connection was very slow. Language packages showed 37964:56 to complete. I thought there was something wrong with didk or it was normal for Ubuntu. Waited almost 2 hours for it to try and install. [11:02] Okay hold on. Need to get a link [11:04] ubuntu installs in 25 mins [11:04] i always install without it updating at the same time [11:05] once installed then i update/upgrade [11:05] I had updates and 3rd party ticked. Only later discovered Telkom was buggered. Restarted router and finally it installed [11:07] you can install with no internet [11:07] much faster way i think [11:07] Oh did not know [11:08] and that way you can get a working os up and running [11:08] as i say 25 mins [11:08] yip [11:09] http://peppermintos.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5666&start=0 I have issues with my screen resolution, because I'm connecting via a KVM switch. I have the same issue with Ubuntu now. The link has my solution for Peppermint. Will it work on ubuntu as well? [11:11] ive had some probs with screen resolution but when installing the nvidia drivers it sorts itself out [11:12] in dash type in additional [11:12] it will look for the card drivers [11:12] k [11:14] It is using the latest proprietary driver [11:14] good [11:15] nvidia-173? [11:15] I'm not using the MVK switch now and it works perfectly, but when I use the switch it goes to 640 x 480 [11:15] Yes 173. [11:15]