[00:07] <chaotix> hi...  what classification can i give to a shortcut file so that it shows up in Web Applications rather than in Internet?
[00:13] <goust> New to ubuntu, how do i get flash workin?
[00:13] <reisio> goust: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[00:14] <goust> or something simlier
[00:14] <goust> ar
[00:14] <goust> k
[00:15] <amcsi> how do I reconfigure my phpmyadmin in cli?
[00:15] <stef1a> my TTY doesn't show a prompt, just a black screen, and unity no longer works in Ubuntu 13.04... ideas?
[00:17] <goust> ty reisio
[00:21] <stef1a> hello?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> stef1a, You want guesses or are you going to tell us how you got there.
[00:32] <staticLNX> guesses... a cat urinated on your computer and caused the power to go out which is why you have a black screen
[00:32] <Nick119119> Hey guys! Alright so I installed Ubuntu 32 bit or 34 bit, whichever is the low bit, on my Fiancee's laptop, but the screen flickers black nonstop and after about 2-3 minutes just goes solid black
[00:33] <staticLNX> 32 bit
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > Nick119119
[00:34] <stef1a> wilee-nilee: unity stopped working one day -- dash and the top bar and the title bars on windows stopped showing up
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> stef1a, You have a graphic driver loaded from the card manufacturer rather than the repo's per-chance?
[00:35] <stef1a> wilee-nilee: yes, i have an AMD/ATI Radeon HD, and i have installed fglrx
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> stef1a, drivers loaded not from the repos will not follow kernel upgrades, is this a possibility, I'm not up amd in general.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> on*
[00:37] <tones> is there a simple system for remembering complex command line structures?
[00:37] <reisio> tones: such as?
[00:37] <theseus> fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 and the only output sound is S/PDIF
[00:37] <theseus> no speaker sound
[00:37] <stef1a> wilee-nilee: maybe; i forget whether this happened after a new kernel
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> how can i define a rule for where to mount a specific device when it's connected, but not at the system boot?
[00:38] <reisio> TheLordOfTime: /etc/fstab
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  won't /etc/fstab try and load everything at boot and hang if a device doesn't exist?
[00:38] <reisio> TheLordOfTime: try the 'noauto' option
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> ahh
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  thanks
[00:38] <reisio> man fstab
[00:39] <tones> reisio, dd stuff
[00:40] <wfreeman>  Hi, I have a simple question about laptop backlights. The built-in KDE brightness control does not do what it should do. I have written my own scripts to control brightness and would like to bind them to the laptop's brightness hotkeys, but even after disabling those hotkeys in the KDE hotkey manager, they are still doing weird things with the screen brightness.
[00:40] <wfreeman> Does anyone know what other KDE (or otherwise) component is reading these hotkeys? Again, all I'd like to do is turn this off, so I can bind them to my own scripts which work.
[00:40] <reisio> tones: man usually has enough
[00:41] <reisio> though dd's man page in particular is a bit vague
[00:41] <tones> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[00:42] <tones> I can copy it, but how would you remember how to do it without the guidelines
[00:42] <reisio> cat ~/notes/dd
[00:43] <Nick119119> Guys, how do I open a terminal before the OS boots up?
[00:43] <Nick119119> I can't get into it long enough to set nomodeset up
[00:43] <Ben64> nomodeset you do in grub
[00:43] <reisio> Nick119119: hold down shift to get the GRUB menu
[00:43] <Ben64> !nomodeset
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, You would do it at the grub menu, the shift key brings it up.
[00:44] <Nick119119> Oh, I can do it straight from grub?
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Read the link.
[00:44] <Nick119119> I'm on the link, that's how I know to do nomodeset
[00:44] <Nick119119> But it mentions a terminal
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, To make it permanent you would use a terminal, at this point it seems you can't get in to do that, basically ths is to get you in ti look for a missing graphic driver.
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  thanks.  how do i know if it'll work or not?  just add the things to fstab, and try mounting the devices?
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> (and if it errors I know i did it wrong?)
[00:46] <reisio> TheLordOfTime: sounds like a plan
[00:46] <reisio> as to noauto, I'm not sure anything but rebooting will be 100% proof
[00:47] <th0r> reisio, I think changes to fstab take effect immediately. You can always do a 'sudo mount -a' to force a re-read
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Does that make sense, I suspect you just need to get in run a update upgrade and look in additional drivers.
[00:48] <Nick119119> Yes, it made sense. I was looking at the permanent section, knowing I need to use the temporary solved my whole issue haha
[00:48] <Nick119119> Thank you guys
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Cool, enjoy.
[00:49] <Nick119119> Makes me glad my laptop isn't nvidia like hers is
[00:49] <reisio> th0r: right, but that won't show you whether noauto is working as expected at bootup or not
[00:49] <th0r> reisio, if you do the mount and noauto isn't doing what you expect, the whole thing should hang at that point
[00:50] <th0r> reisio, (I think)
[00:50] <reisio> th0r: why tell me?
[00:50] <th0r> reisio, "as to noauto, I'm not sure anything but rebooting will be 100% proof"
[00:51] <reisio> yeah?
[00:51] <th0r> reisio, just passing along a tidbit based on that comment you made...no offense intended
[00:52] <reisio> I'm not offended, I just don't know what makes you think it's relevant to me :p
[00:52] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  so far the options seem to work correctly :)  I'll test noauto on reboot with the devices not connected
[00:52] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  if it errors,  where'll the errors dump out to, what log file?
[00:52] <reisio> manually mounting something won't show whether noauto behaves as expected during bootup
[00:52] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  so far the options seem to work correctly :)  I'll test noauto on reboot with the devices not connected
[00:52] <TheLordOfTime> "I'll test noauto on reboot with the devices not connected"
[00:52] <TheLordOfTime> the OTHER  options work
[00:53] <reisio> yeah sorry that was still to th0r
[00:53] <TheLordOfTime> then the other question i asked ;)
[00:53] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  oh sorry :)
[00:53] <TheLordOfTime> my bad.
[00:53] <reisio> you are fired
[00:53] <reisio> :p
[00:53] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> no soup for you
[00:53] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  well, seriously, though, where will mount errors dump to?  what logfile?
[00:53] <aamer> cute room
[00:53] <Martijn-NL> Ubuntu is awesome!!! :P
[00:54] <aamer> you people are awesome
[00:54] <aamer> :)
[00:54] <reisio> TheLordOfTime: not sure on Ubuntu, ask the channel
[00:54] <TheLordOfTime> ... this is the channel?
[00:54] <TheLordOfTime> ah
[00:54] <Martijn-NL> aamer: Thank you proper my dear friend, hahahaha =D
[00:54]  * TheLordOfTime misread again
[00:54] <reisio> as in, don't put my nick before the msg
[00:54] <TheLordOfTime> reisio:  ah
[00:54] <reisio> 'cause more people will be more likely to ignore the msg, thinking it's only relevant to me
[00:55] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know where boot-time mount errors will show up in the logs?  specifically, what log file I need to check?
[00:55] <aamer> yw Martijn-NL
[00:55] <Martijn-NL> aamer: Where are you from? I live in The Netherlands (H)
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Martijn-NL, #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat. ;)
[00:56] <reisio> TheLordOfTime: realistically, it'll probably either not boot, or boot normally and the filesystems will be mounted (when you didn't want them to be)
[00:56] <k-stz> How does one disable kernel updates?
[00:56] <reisio> but even more likely is it'll work :p
[00:56] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[00:56] <aamer> so, I wanted to ask what the heck is the flag -t for mount? I've read everywhere but couldn't get it!
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> aamer:  i think -t is the "type" i.e. filesystem type
[00:57] <reisio> aamer: for explicitly telling mount what type to interpret the filesystem as
[00:57] <reisio> usually you can omit it, 'cause mount is pretty smart
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[00:57] <reisio> not that there's anything wrong with being explicit, if you mean to be
[00:58] <aamer> ty reisio
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> k-stz, Not sure why you would but, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3379/is-there-a-way-to-disable-kernel-updates
[00:58] <reisio> it's a little more useful for debugging
[00:58] <reisio> for example if you know a filesystem is of a certain type, you can specify it
[00:58] <reisio> and then maybe get a useful error
[00:58] <reisio> like 'hey clown, you have to enable support in your kernel for that type first!'
[00:58] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: some drivers cease to function, thanks ill look into that
[00:58] <reisio> only less humorous
[00:58] <aamer> reisio i was reading how to move /home to a separate partition (after installing the system)
[00:59] <reisio> aamer: and how was -t used?
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> k-stz, Drivers gotten from other then the ubuntu repo's?
[00:59] <Nick119119> What's the ubuntu equivilent of dxdiag?
[01:00] <reisio> mmm, glxgears?
[01:00] <aamer> reisio he says sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /mnt/newhome
[01:01] <reisio> Nick119119: dpkg -L mesa-utils | grep bin
[01:01] <aamer> reisio theres a bunch of comments many people are complaining because of the errors during copy...
[01:01] <reisio> aamer: mmm, probably don't need -t ext3 in that particular case
[01:01] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: no hand-compiled, else wlan driver won't work
[01:01] <reisio> and might not even want it, if you aren't using ext3 :)
[01:01] <punter> If my new PC (with "Gigabyte" motherboard and nVidia GPU) crashes twice a day and shows strange log files on screen with no possibility for returning to the graphical environment, can that be faulty or incompatible hardware?
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> k-stz, Ah.
[01:01] <reisio> aamer: simpler to do stuff like that from live media
[01:01] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: ok thanks i hope that works bye
[01:02] <reisio> punter: _could_ be, sure
[01:02] <reisio> wouldn't be my first suspect
[01:02] <punter> reisio: Which of the two is more likely? (incompatible, or faulty?)
[01:02] <reisio> more likely would be software bug
[01:03] <punter> Ubuntu 13.04 is what I use
[01:03] <punter> Should I switch back to 12.04?
[01:03] <reisio> no
[01:03] <reisio> you might try another nvidia driver or driver version, for starters
[01:03] <punter> aha
[01:03] <Nick119119> reisio: It says 'mesa-utils' is not installed
[01:03] <punter> For some reason it's not using a proprietary driver
[01:03] <reisio> Nick119119: install it :D
[01:04] <aamer> reisio I'm using ext4 but I just wanted to know what's that flag, and still I'm very worried about the copy errors, I don't know actually but I'm expecting lots of errors during copy, what do you think?
[01:04] <reisio> punter: could try using the proprietary driver
[01:04] <punter> ok
[01:04] <punter> Thank you reisio
[01:04] <reisio> aamer: backups make everything safe
[01:04] <reisio> aamer: although if you're copying from one partition to another, technically you should still have a backup
[01:04] <reisio> as /home/ will be mounted on top of /
[01:05] <reisio> s/still/already/
[01:05] <Nick119119> reisio: What's the command I need to install? I tried sudo get-apt install mesa-utils but it said nope
[01:06] <aamer> reisio I'll try, but storage prices are multiplied by 3 or 4 nowadays here... so I don't promise hehe
[01:06] <reisio> Nick119119: try using apt-file to figure out where it thinks the 'glxgears' executable comes from, then
[01:06] <reisio> Nick119119: you might also be interested in lshw (or the gtk frontend to it)
[01:07] <Nick119119> reisio: I'm rather new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, I have no idea what those things are D:
[01:07] <reisio> Nick119119: and the proprietary nvidia and ati drivers also have their own GUIs
[01:07] <reisio> Nick119119: sudo apt-get install apt-file
[01:08] <reisio> apt-file search glxgears
[01:08] <reisio> if it gives an error, do what it says
[01:08] <psusi> glsgears comes from mesa-utils
[01:08] <psusi> glxgears rather
[01:09] <Nick119119> I was trying get-apt instead of apt-get >.<
[01:09] <OerHeks> !find glxgears
[01:09] <Nick119119> It's showing three files with the glx stuff
[01:11] <Nick119119> Now it has gears turning round and round and telling me the fps, but this does not tell me what my graphics card is
[01:11] <Ari-Yang> just a heads up, Nick119119, fglrx (proprietary ati/amd driver) is horrible. You're better off with sticking with the open source one, it's 100x better.
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, type this in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[01:12] <DoverMo> Ari-Yang, opposite situation with nvidia
[01:12] <karlmh> DoverMo: agreed
[01:13] <Ari-Yang> DoverMo, I know, that's why I only said that ati's/amd's proprietary driver is horrible... didn't mention anything about nividia
[01:13] <Nick119119> Ah, thanks!
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, yw, so you have nividia, yes?
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> * nvidia
[01:14] <Nick119119> My fiancee does, yes
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> kk
[01:14] <DoverMo> lspci | grep fiance
[01:14] <DoverMo> wait, nvm
[01:15] <Nick119119> And.. Wonderful, haha, nvdiai doesn't have drivers for her card -_-
[01:15] <DoverMo> Nick119119, what kind of card is it?
[01:15] <Nick119119> nvidia geforce Go 6150
[01:15] <Ari-Yang> c/p the output straight from terminal?
[01:17] <Nick119119> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA corperation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev a2)
[01:18] <DoverMo> Nick119119, the geforce go 7 series recommends the 304.88 driver for 64bit
[01:18] <Ari-Yang> so Nick119119, you're trying to install proprietary driver for nvidia?
[01:18] <DoverMo> Nick119119, so you could try that and see if it works
[01:18] <Nick119119> It's 32 bit though, will it still work?
[01:18] <DoverMo> Nick119119, let me double check now
[01:18] <Nick119119> And I don't know, Ari-Yang, is that what I should be doing?
[01:19] <DoverMo> Nick119119, yeah still the same one.
[01:19] <Ari-Yang> I'm not sure... I mean it depends what you're going to be doing...
[01:19] <Nick119119> My Fiancee isn't exactly computer literate, It would get irritating to have to boot in nomodeset for her every time she wanted to turn it on
[01:19] <DoverMo> Nick119119, you could try it, and if it doesn't work you can just uninstall it afterwards
[01:19] <Ari-Yang> I mean if she isn't going to be doing any gaming, why switch driver?
[01:19] <Nick119119> She's gonna be playing minecraft
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> oh, then you may want proprietary driver I think
[01:20] <DoverMo> Nick119119,  you can just edit the grub default to disable nouveau
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.88-driver.html
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> is that the driver DoverMo recommended?
[01:20] <DoverMo> yep
[01:20] <Nick119119> Woot, direct link saves me google
[01:21] <Ben64> you shouldn't install from the website
[01:22] <Nick119119> You guys are way better then my tech support guys
[01:22] <Ben64> the nvidia drivers are in the ubuntu repository
[01:22] <DoverMo> Ben64, though proprietary links aren't recommend by any linux system, the free nouveau driver is a piece of crud that also breaks with the newest kernels
[01:22] <Ben64> thats not what i'm saying
[01:23] <Ben64> the version from nvidia.com is not supported here, and breaks often
[01:23] <Nick119119> The laptop won't run without blackscreening unless it's in nomodeset, which is why I need the driver
[01:23] <OerHeks> Ben64 +1
[01:23] <Ben64> again, i'm not saying to not install the driver. i'm saying to install it from the repository
[01:24] <Nick119119> How?
[01:24] <DoverMo> Nick119119, did you look at the driver list in the 'ubuntu software center'?
[01:24] <DoverMo> Nick119119, you haven't seen that?
[01:24] <Ben64> ubuntu software center, there should be a tab for extra drivers
[01:24] <Nick119119> I haven't o.o
[01:24] <OerHeks> for that 6150 go card you would need the 173-updates driver  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173-updates
[01:24] <DoverMo> Nick119119, i assumed you had already looked at that
[01:25] <Nick119119> I had no idea that kind of stuff was in the software center
[01:25] <Ben64> 304 supports the 6150
[01:26] <Nick119119> I'm not seeing a drivers section
[01:26] <Nick119119> Nevermind, found it
[01:26] <DoverMo> software sources
[01:26] <DoverMo> tab on the right
[01:27] <Nick119119> My software center doesn't have tabs.... THere is something called 'Additional Drivers' that I have the option of installing?
[01:27] <DoverMo> yes
[01:27] <DoverMo> thats it
[01:27] <Nick119119> Right, installing now
[01:27] <DoverMo> it should show you what driver you are currently on
[01:27] <DoverMo> and you can pick one from that list
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, what nvidia driver is listed there?
[01:28] <Ari-Yang> happen to be the one DoverMo recommended?
[01:28] <sweettea> wtf happenned to flash in 13.04 64b??
[01:29] <DoverMo> Nick119119,  you will also need to make sure 'nvidia-setting(your version)' is installed after you install the drivers
[01:29] <DoverMo> Nick119119, in order to properly configure it
[01:29] <Nick119119> Sorry, Jehovah's witnesses were knocking on my door. And I don't know yet, it's still installing the Additional Drivers thing
[01:29] <Ari-Yang> did Nick119119 install the driver from nvidia's site or from the repo?
[01:30] <Ari-Yang> or is it already installed? and he just has to switch to it
[01:31] <ska> How do I fix these messages in 12.04: [drm:atom_get_src_int] *ERROR* ATOM: fb read beyond scratch region:
[01:31] <Nick119119> Neither yet, Still installing the Additional Drivers whatsit
[01:31] <ska> I get thousands.
[01:31] <ska> dmesg is worthless now.
[01:31] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, ah
[01:32] <Ari-Yang> http://gyazo.com/bbcb6b1dba1a4cb5a63ee30dcfb7b692 that's what my software sources window looks like (nick119119)
[01:32] <Sector_0> hey I recently installed some opengl updates, and I have to admit I was careless not to look at what they were, but now I keep getting an error saying libGL error failed to load swrast
[01:32] <Ari-Yang> Sector_0, you should say what your opengl version currently is...
[01:33] <Nick119119> My fiancee's laptop is ancient. HP pavillion dv6000
[01:33] <Nick119119> I use a dell studio 1537
[01:33] <DoverMo> Nick119119, alright, well you get how to install it right?
[01:33] <Sector_0> I've googled the error and apparently swrast is a fallback for when there is no hardware acceleration but I already installed the ATI binary and thing were working perfectly until today
[01:33] <Sector_0> Ari-Yang: glx version string is 1.4
[01:34] <DoverMo> Nick119119, on your fiancee's laptop, it's gonna have an option for nvidia 304
[01:34] <DoverMo> Nick119119, choose that one, then after it installs, make sure you have 'nvidia-settings' installed from the package manager
[01:34] <Sector_0> Ari-Yang: don't know if that's what you're asking though
[01:34] <Sector_0> also i'm using the ATI radeon 5500HD redwood
[01:34] <Nick119119> okay
[01:34] <Ari-Yang> Sector_0, type glxinfo | grep -i opengl in terminal
[01:35] <Ari-Yang> you should get a version string line too
[01:35] <Ari-Yang> that should tell you your opengl version...
[01:36] <Sector_0> Ari-Yang: http://pastebin.com/EwFBAUMG
[01:36] <Nick119119> Okay, I instaleld the Additional Drivers whatsit, now how do I open it?
[01:36] <Sector_0> that's the output of the command
[01:36] <DoverMo> Nick119119, restart the computer then double check which bubble is marked...
[01:36] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, I guess you check the Additional Drivers tab of software sources
[01:37] <Ari-Yang> or what DoverMo said
[01:37] <DoverMo> Ari-Yang, im hoping their computer doesnt explode
[01:37] <Ari-Yang> well if he installed the right driver, it shouldn't
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> worse case scenario he'll get tearing
[01:38] <Nick119119> If her laptop explodes at least I can go back to playing Dark Souls xD
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> haha
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> @ Sector_0 sorry, I won't be much help with your problem :< perhaps somebody will help you
[01:39] <Nick119119> Just standing in blight town for the last hour, thanking any deity out there that I haven't been invaded and slaughtered
[01:39] <Ari-Yang> maybe installing the version you had before updating would work? (if that's possible)
[01:40] <Nick119119> Restarted, but there still isn't an additional drivers tab >.<
[01:40] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, you went to software sources right?
[01:40] <Nick119119> sotware resources?
[01:41] <Nick119119> I been in the ubuntu software center this whole time x.x
[01:41] <Ari-Yang> you can open up System Settings (not sure what DE (desktop environment) you're using)
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, the additional drivers tab is in software and updates
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> at least in 13.04 they have changes the name of that gui
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> changed*
[01:43] <Ari-Yang> if Nick119119 is using Unity, couldn't he just hit the dashboard and search for software sources?
[01:43] <Nick119119> That's what I did xD
[01:43] <Nick119119> I don't know what exactly I'm using, I have Ubuntu 13.04
[01:43] <Nick119119> With basically no custimization yet
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> oh, he's most likely on Unity then, wilee-nilee
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> not sure what software sources is called on 13.04
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, you can get them from synaptic
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> ?
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> software sources
[01:45] <DoverMo> Nick119119, do what i said
[01:45] <DoverMo> Nick119119, what's the problem
[01:45] <Nick119119> No problem now :D
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, sorry. you said that you aren't sure what the software sources are called, but they're available in synaptic.
[01:46] <DoverMo> Nick119119, right, and does the bubbled in part reflect the driver you wanted to use?
[01:46] <Nick119119> Thank you guys, like seriously. No widea how long I woulda been trying to work on this without your helps
[01:46] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, so now you're going to select the nvidia proprietary driver?
[01:46] <Nick119119> It's still 'applying changes'
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> after that, restart the computer
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, what driver did you select form the list?
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> the exact name
[01:47] <Nick119119> 304 proptiertary, tested
[01:48] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, nice, that sounds like the driver DoverMo recommended
[01:48] <Nick119119> Exactly why i picked it :D
[01:49] <altair> hello :o
[01:50] <Nick119119> Applied, now to reboot and hope it doesn't flicker black and crash again
[01:50] <Nick119119> Oooh, so far so good! The splash screen wasn't annd grainy and green
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> nice, resolution a-okay too?
[01:52] <Nick119119> Yep yep
[01:52] <Nick119119> no more stuttering
[01:52] <Nick119119> No flickering
[01:52] <Nick119119> You guys rock so hard acdc is jealous
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> success!
[01:54] <Ari-Yang> as for the whole proprietary drivers, for nvidia it's all good. ati/amd you're better off with sticking with the open source driver (95% of the time I bet), though I think kernel 3.9 gives radeon driver a bit more attention and it has improved a lot.
[01:54] <Nick119119> My laptop uses whatever the default is and seems to have no problems
[01:54] <altair> can I ask for some help here?
[01:55] <Ari-Yang> altair, just ask your question~
[01:55] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, ah okay, is your laptop nvidia or ati/amd?
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> altair, You can state your problem and if someone knows they may answer.
[01:55] <Nick119119> It actually lags less on minecraft then my quad core 8gb ram nvidia quatro gfx3800
[01:55] <Nick119119> amd I think
[01:55] <altair> oh, alright:
[01:56] <Nick119119> Ah, ati radeon according to this sticker
[01:56] <Ari-Yang> okay
[01:57] <Nick119119> Now all that's left is to find my ex's wireless reciever
[01:59] <altair> so: I'm having problems with making a script being executed when I turn on my Laptop. It's a script I wrote to map some keystrokes to the buttons on my graphicstablet. I also followed the tutorial on sourceforge.net...pretty much step by step
[02:07] <BluesKaj> 'evening all
[02:07] <altair> hello .,.`
[02:09] <w30> It's been a long day
[02:11] <BluesKaj> yup . had a 6hr jam, a bit weary
[02:13] <angeleyes> My fn + F2 combination buttons won't work it will not activate my wireless but fn + all other buttons work how can i fix this?
[02:13] <tones> if you don't have an fn key, how do you adjust brightness?
[02:13] <leo-the-manic> Is there a way to get make to automatically scan parent directories for makefiles, kind of like how git/hg do it?
[02:17] <nicekiwi>  I hhave an app thats installed locally in my home dir, how do I get that to be recognised and appear in the system menus etc?
[02:17] <Nick119119> Alright guys, I'm back to irritate you again. I can't get my Fiancee's wireless reciever to work
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Try these commands to see if the wireless card is identified. lspci | grep -i wireless or   lspci | grep Broadco
[02:19] <wilee-nilee>  lspci | grep Broadcom
[02:20] <Nick119119> broadcom corporations BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[02:21] <altair> gtg =( maybe I'll ask for help later
[02:21] <Nick119119> Damn, google mentioned all kinds of broadcom issues...
[02:21] <karlmh> bbl folks
[02:21] <karlmh> nap time
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Nick119119
[02:22] <Nick119119> x3 Thanks!
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, That card should work, no problem.
[02:27] <Nick119119> Weird, it says the thing I need is already installed
[02:27] <Nick119119> it's just not letting me connect to anything wirelessly
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Out of my area to help fix, but many here have broadcom, someone will help.
[02:28] <Nick119119> Okie
[02:29] <th0r> Nick119119, as I recall when I install xubuntu it tried to use the wl  module. I had to blacklist that and use the b43 module. So first you might check to see which module is loaded
[02:29] <Nick119119> Okay, how do I do that?
[02:30] <th0r> Nick119119, first, in a terminal try 'iwconfig' and see if there is even a wifi card recognized. pastebin the results if you don't know what it is saying
[02:30] <lendon> The fn +f2 will not work to get wifi activated but all other fn + hotkeys work how can i fix this
[02:31] <Nick119119> it says no wireless extrensions
[02:31] <Nick119119> extensions
[02:31] <th0r> Nick119119, no 'wlan0' or 'eth1' or some such?
[02:32] <Nick119119> it says lo   No wireless extensions and eth0    No wireless extensions
[02:32] <th0r> Nick119119, try 'lsmod | grep wl' and see if wl is loaded.
[02:32] <lendon> Is there a way to activate the fn/F2 combination?
[02:33] <w30> Nick119119, best way to get broadcom working is to connect with wires and then insyall the brodcom drivers and it's many dependicies
[02:33] <w30> insyall/install
[02:33] <Nick119119> It says wl 3027822    1
[02:33] <goust> Is there any good pool games for Ubuntu?
[02:34] <th0r> Nick119119, try removing it, 'rmmod wl' and inserting b43, 'modprobe b43'
[02:34] <th0r> Nick119119, then see if the iwconfig shows a wireless card
[02:35] <Nick119119> error: Module wl is in use
[02:36] <th0r> Nick119119, <thinking>
[02:36] <d2_> Lost in terminal
[02:36] <Nick119119> xD
[02:36] <th0r> Nick119119, just curious...does 'ifconfig' show a wireless card?
[02:37] <th0r> Nick119119, my bad...I think you need 'sudo rmmod wl'
[02:37] <Nick119119> I don't think so, but it shows my ethernet connection
[02:37] <th0r> Nick119119, and sudo modprobe b43
[02:38] <Nick119119> Still says it's in use, should I just skip to the modprobe part?
[02:38] <th0r> Nick119119, I don't think that will work...pretty sure you need to get rid of wl first.
[02:39] <th0r> Nick119119, trying to figure out how to determine what is using it, or how to release it. Could always blacklist it and reboot...but that seems a bit extreme
[02:40] <Nick119119> Hm
[02:42] <Nick119119> Is there a way to kill it? Like rkill or something?
[02:42] <th0r> Nick119119, try 'sudo modprobe -r wl'
[02:43] <Nick119119> FATAL: module wl is in use.
[02:44] <th0r> Nick119119, when I installed xubuntu I just rmmod wl and then installed b43...it was easy. Not sure what to do now <smile>
[02:44] <Nick119119> Would it work if I unplugged my ethernet cord?
[02:45] <th0r> Nick119119, this is what I would do now....blacklist the wl driver (simple instructions here)http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/avoid-linux-kernel-module-driver-autoloading.html
[02:45] <th0r> Nick119119, then.....
[02:46] <th0r> Nick119119, add 'b43' to the file /etc/modules
[02:46] <lendon> Nick119119: is there a way you know of that could turn on the fn+f2 key?
[02:46] <th0r> Nick119119, then reboot and see if that brings up the wifi card
[02:47] <Nick119119> I'm afraid not lendon
[02:48] <Nick119119> th0r, How do I open  files in /etc/?
[02:48] <Nick119119> I'm trying to open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but I honestly have no idea how
[02:48] <th0r> Nick119119, in a terminal use 'sudo nano </etc/modules or whatever>'
[02:48] <blackshirt> just open it
[02:49] <th0r> blackshirt, that won't work
[02:49] <Nick119119> Alright, now I do blacklist wl?
[02:50] <th0r> Nick119119, right, just put that on a line at the end of the file.
[02:50] <th0r> Nick119119, control-X will then prompt if you want to save the file
[02:51] <th0r> Nick119119, then add b43 to /etc/modules. If I remember correctly the only other module in there will be lp
[02:51] <th0r> Nick119119, just put b43 on a line by itself right after lp
[02:51] <Nick119119> rebooting now
[02:53] <Ari-Yang> Nick119119, you mean wifi proprietary driver? check this screen shot http://gyazo.com/bbcb6b1dba1a4cb5a63ee30dcfb7b692
[02:54] <Ari-Yang> I decided to use that because once a week my laptop would d/c from the internet and I'd have to reboot to re-connect, after switching to that wifi proprietary driver, I've had no problem at all
[02:54] <Nick119119> That wasn't good
[02:54] <Nick119119> I got some error about b43 not being installed
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, This part of that original link addresses what you have been trying  believe.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Switching_between_drivers
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> check the blacklist link within the link as well
[02:58] <Nick119119> okay, wl blacklisted and I did sudo modprobe b43
[02:59] <grendal-prime> damn it im so pissed off
[02:59] <Nick119119> But sudo modprobe b43 doesn't seem to do anything, it just gives me another line
[02:59] <grendal-prime> i got this netbook with eufi on it
[02:59] <grendal-prime> and windows8..
[02:59] <th0r> Nick119119, 'lsmod | grep b43' to make sure that module is there. It shoudl have loaded at boot if it is in modules
[03:00] <grendal-prime> i had this happen before and i was unable to install or do anything with the box cause i accidently whiped out the eufi partion?
[03:00] <th0r> Nick119119, assuming it is loaded, check 'iwconfig' and see if wlan0 or some such is now there
[03:00] <Nick119119> it says b43 0
[03:00] <Nick119119> And still no wlan0
[03:00] <th0r> Nick119119, is this 13.04?
[03:00] <Nick119119> Yes
[03:00] <grendal-prime> can anybody tell me the safe way to install ubuntu on a machine that has windows 8 and eufi installed?
[03:00] <th0r> Nick119119, I wonder if ubuntu removed b43
[03:01] <BluesKaj> Nick119119, iwconfig
[03:01] <Nick119119> I did iwconfig
[03:01] <BluesKaj> iwlist ?
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | grendal-prime
[03:01] <Nick119119> How do I install b43?
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, Make sure you have windows backed up would be my advice for safety to start out with.
[03:03] <th0r> Nick119119, is 13.04 raring?
[03:03] <Nick119119> I don't know
[03:03] <grendal-prime> how do you back up windows 8?
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep
[03:03] <grendal-prime> its frigging huge
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> (th0r) Yep
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, All windows have at least one full image allowed, pro and up have unlimited in backups
[03:04] <th0r> Nick119119, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-broadcom-b43-legacy-wireless-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[03:04] <nabn> Hi, i upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10 yesterday, and apparantly, the transition isn't very smooth. I don't think my graphics drivers are working. The text seems blown up. I can't change the screen brightness (its set to full). And one notable thing is cairo-dock has a black background. Any help please?
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> nabn, A upgrade needs graphiic drivers reloaded generally look in additional drivers
[03:06] <nabn> wilee-nilee: will try that out. i do that from the settings, if i am not wrong?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, I put my window images on a external, if you have one thats the best way in my opinion.
[03:06] <th0r> Nick119119, don't do the modprobes at the end of that howto
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> nabn, softwrae sources was the original gui name where the additional drivers tab is, in 13.04 it is called software & updates in the menu
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> software*
[03:13] <Nick119119> Alright, I got it running, mostly. Now I have this issues where when I try to sign into my wifi box it says 'Wifi is disabled by hardware switch'
[03:13] <nabn> wilee-nilee , the additional drivers list is empty. But i was using a local mirror. Now i am updating from the main server.
[03:13] <th0r> Nick119119, is this a laptop? Is there a switch to turn the wifi on and off? Or maybe a function key?
[03:14] <Nick119119> It's a laptop, but I don't believe there's a switch or function key, give me a moment to check
[03:15] <Nick119119> Got it!
[03:15] <Nick119119> Thank you guys so much xD
[03:15] <Nick119119> Now I can get back to my game. Only took five hours, but.. Woohoo!
[03:15] <th0r> Nick119119, enjoy
[03:16] <nicekiwi>  I hhave an app thats installed locally in my home dir, how do I get that to be recognised and appear in the system menus etc?
[03:17] <histo> nabn: what video card do you have?
[03:18] <nabn> histo, this is what i got from lspci: ' VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)'
[03:19] <histo> nabn: you don't need any drivers for that card unless you have a hybrid graphics card is there another vga device listed?
[03:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi ubuntu channel, ubuntu based on debian testing and debian.unstable useds LUKS for filesystem encryption correct? How can i give this ability to ubuntu lts?
[03:21] <nabn> histo, i don't think so. But here's a paste of lspci output: http://pastebin.com/KhMAuaSR
[03:22] <histo> nabn: Is this a home built system or do you have a make/model?
[03:22] <nabn> histo, this is an acer laptop. 4738z
[03:23] <nabn> histo, could it be the ubuntu-tweak that's causing the problem? i thought i removed it before i upgraded. But it's still there
[03:23] <histo> nabn: yes any ppa's etc.. could be causing isuses
[03:24] <nabn> histo, would it be a good idea to reinstall the driver? would that fix problems?
[03:25] <histo> nabn: there are no drivers. They are modules that came with your new kernel
[03:25] <histo> nabn: so basically you already have a newer "driver" when you upgraded
[03:26] <nabn> histo, i see. is there anything i can do about the possibly broken ppa's?
[03:27] <grendal-prime> wilee-nilee, i had an extra 4 gig usb drive thats what it asked for
[03:27] <histo> !ppapurge | nabn
[03:28] <grendal-prime> my understanding is that 12.10 > have uefi support
[03:28] <grendal-prime> wich sucks cause i think the software this guy wants to run has not been approved on anything but lts
[03:29] <leo-the-manic> In make: I have an implicit pattern %.json which I expect to be matched by a/b.json. How can I get the string "b" from that?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, 12.04.2 has uefi I believe
[03:30] <grendal-prime> shit
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, The windows images are slightly compressed but very close to the size of the OS 4 gigs does not sound like enough space.
[03:30] <grendal-prime> im making a recovery disk?
[03:30] <grendal-prime> not the same thing?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, The recovery disc is very small, you want to backup W8 as an image the line above the recovery line.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> the recovery disc s a good tool as well though.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> is*
[03:32] <grendal-prime> im lost
[03:32] <grendal-prime> i cant find any of this stuff on win8
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, Let me reboot to W8 and I can give you some pics if you like.
[03:33] <grendal-prime> how do i get to that screen?
[03:35] <kirankumar> if we want to install a    .exe file in ubuntu how it it install in ubuntu.
[03:35] <xangua> !appdb | kirankumar
[03:35] <DoverMo> kirankumar, with WINE or a virtual windows emulator
[03:36] <kirankumar> wine is reliable are you sure sir,
[03:36] <DoverMo> kirankumar, wine isn't reliable at all
[03:36] <DoverMo> kirankumar, neither is a virtual windows system
[03:36] <kirankumar> what i do?
[03:37] <MonkWitDaFunk> I have used wine.before
[03:37] <DoverMo> kirankumar, install wine  and winetricks after that, then figure it out
[03:38] <kirankumar> I want to install  a web application software it reliable
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, So go to the control panel in windows then W7 file recovery and see the create a system image to make a image/clone. It will be the size of the OS so you need a place to put it dvd's can be used, but I prefer a external HD personally.
[03:38] <DoverMo> kirankumar, there are some wine-based applications you can buy
[03:38] <grendal-prime> ya i got to that part
[03:38] <DoverMo> kirankumar, which offer more support, but there's no guarentee
[03:39] <grendal-prime> wilee-nilee, i have a roswood block with an empty 100 gig drive in it..but windows does not see it?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, The recovery disc is an excellent repair tool, and you can use it to reload the clone if needed.
[03:39] <kirankumar> i am a student purchase is not possible .
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, Has to be a NTFS is all.
[03:40] <DoverMo> kirankumar, then you gotta pick either wine in linux, or run a virtual system
[03:40] <grendal-prime> ok so..i have nothing on this box  i dont want to be able to even reninstall win8 cause its fkn horrid...
[03:40] <grendal-prime> if i have the recovery disk will that at least be able to recreate the uefi partion
[03:40] <kirankumar> i think vertual windows is helpful yes or no? sir,
[03:41] <wheatthin_> !language grendal-prime
[03:41] <Ari-Yang> just try it and see for yourself, kirankumar
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, MY only concern here was having the reload if needed basically, if you don't then I would only save it in case of a resale, although there is a recovery partition, however it may be hard to get it to load without a Windows OS there not sure.
[03:41] <Ari-Yang> what are you trying to install? perhaps there's a linux equivalent?
[03:42] <kirankumar> thanks sir, good day
[03:42] <wheatthin_> !language | grendal-prime   lol
[03:42] <grendal-prime> ya ya sorry
[03:42] <DoverMo> kirankumar, yeah. depending on the virtulization software, you can have less support, but in general it should run most things that aren't acient
[03:42] <DoverMo> ancient*
[03:42] <grendal-prime> wilee-nilee, ok, so ill refort the drive with another machine to ntfs
[03:43] <DoverMo> ancient being anything that's 1998 or older
[03:43] <kirankumar> i try.
[03:43] <kirankumar> thanks
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, The recovery disc s like 120MB very small a command line and some repair tools, I would not rely on it as a full UEFI repair if you remove stuff, the windows channel would more accurate here.
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, I'm not an OCD person, except in cloning my OS so as to be able to get back running quickly if needed.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> gotta reboot
[03:46] <nabn> 'can't locate ppa-purge' . waiting for the udate to finish. Man, this is taking way too long!
[03:46] <grendal-prime> wilee-nilee , ya the thing that drives me nuts...i have to install windows to uninsttall windows.
[03:46] <anonnumberanon> Can I get some help installing Ubuntu on my laptop?
[03:46] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, cant you just use fdisk D: ?
[03:47] <grendal-prime> wilee-nilee, ya the thing that drives me nuts...i have to install windows to uninsttall windows.
[03:47] <grendal-prime> dover..you mean like boot into a live disk and run that?
[03:47] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, yeah
[03:47] <grendal-prime> DoverMo, nope.. you cant boot into a live disk with uefi
[03:47] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, that sucks D:
[03:48] <grendal-prime> DoverMo, this is the lamest (and im not allowed to cuss..so im using lame lame lame est) thing i have ever seen
[03:48] <anonnumberanon> so AHCI is UEFI?
[03:49] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, the future is bleak
[03:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !install | anonnumberanon
[03:49] <anonnumberanon> !automate
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> anonnumberanon: If you're looking for a laptop install an automator prob won't help :)\
[03:50] <grendal-prime> SonikkuAmerica, ya but you need to understand that this does not bode well for us.  one of the things about ubuntu has always been plug it in and your off and running.
[03:50] <grendal-prime> now (and i have installed this os on allot of machines) its plug it in and hope it does not kill off the boot partiotion.
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> grendal-prime: Well all the devs need to do is fix it for UEFI.
[03:51] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, linux is constantly working on uefi support, it's not their fault
[03:51] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, linux can only do so much also, it's not a God level OS
[03:51] <grendal-prime> DoverMo, you miss understant im not mad at our people
[03:51] <grendal-prime> im mad a windows
[03:52] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, darn you! weendaws!
[03:52] <grendal-prime> if yo ulook into it they were the ones that deved this up..they are requireing the hardware vendors to install this
[03:52] <SuperNoeMan> hey, I'm on lubuntu, an ubuntu derivative, can anybody find me a package archive link that I can add to my sources so I can install qtwebkitwidgets?
[03:52] <grendal-prime> and the worst part is its for windows8  its like they knew everyone was going to hate it so much they are making it really hard to install anything on a new pc.
[03:52] <SuperNoeMan> it doesn't seem to be available to me when I do apt-cache search qt5webkitwidgets
[03:53] <SuperNoeMan> also, if someone could just do exactly that search, and tell me what they get that would be awesome,
[03:53] <SuperNoeMan> because I don't know how different lubuntu's sources list is from ubuntu
[03:53] <Supercomp> how to customize backgrounds in ubuntu 13.04
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> SuperNoeMan, Same sources list
[03:53] <SuperNoeMan> wilee-nilee: oh shit...
[03:53] <Beck21> same
[03:53] <grendal-prime> ok
[03:53] <SuperNoeMan> well then how do I get qtwebkitwidgets...
[03:53] <grendal-prime> sooooo...still does not see the drive
[03:54] <grendal-prime> is there a disk management tool in win 8?  anyhwere
[03:54] <SuperNoeMan> hmm... so the base cause is I'm using cmake to build a piece of software
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, Yeah in the admin search type disk mana and t will show.
[03:55] <Supercomp> In earlier versions of ubuntu i could find the background of windows could be changed
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> I think it is disk management or manager it's a virtual partitioner
[03:55] <SuperNoeMan> and its telling me it cannot find a package configuration file provided by Qt5Location
[03:55] <trism> SuperNoeMan: how about libqt5webkit5-dev
[03:55] <SuperNoeMan> that...
[03:55] <SuperNoeMan> trism: hold on
[03:56] <SuperNoeMan> ok, I installed that trism
[03:56] <SuperNoeMan> or wait... it was already installed
[03:56] <DoverMo> Supercomp, ooboots uses compiz now D:
[03:56] <SuperNoeMan> let me pastebin my cmake output
[03:57] <SuperNoeMan> ok
[03:57] <SuperNoeMan> pastebin.com2QDbjnQL
[03:57] <SuperNoeMan> i mean
[03:58] <SuperNoeMan> http://www.pastebin.com/2QDbjnQL
how to run multiple versions of firefox in ubuntu?
[03:58] <grendal-prime> shows up as a healthy drive but will not show up in the image creator
[03:58] <trism> SuperNoeMan: I see qtlocation5-dev , do you have that?
[03:59] <DoverMo> Supercomp, each program is designed for only 1 library path
[03:59] <SuperNoeMan> trism: ok it wasn't installed already
[03:59] <SuperNoeMan> now installing...
[03:59] <grendal-prime> this is lame
[04:00] <DoverMo> Supercomp, google it to see if you can. otherwise you can just compile your own, or run something like firefox long term, or nightly
[04:00] <SuperNoeMan> trism: awesome. Now on to the next needed library:
[04:00] <SuperNoeMan> it wants qt5sensors
[04:00] <Supercomp> ok
[04:00] <SuperNoeMan> do you have some variant of a qt5sensors-dev or something?
[04:00] <DoverMo> Supercomp, or firefox aurora
[04:00] <SuperNoeMan> because I don't have a libqt5sensors5-dev
[04:00] <anonnumberanon> these guides did not help I get the flashing cursor problem at boot before installation. I also tried my Puppy Linux usb key but I get the same flashing cursor.
i have firefox 21
[04:01] <trism> SuperNoeMan: qtsensors5-dev seems to be it
[04:01] <DoverMo> Supercomp, ok o3o
[04:02] <DoverMo> Supercomp, options, compile your own firefox, or get firefox esr, aurora, or nightly
[04:02] <DoverMo> Supercomp, or find out an option that lets you
[04:03] <SuperNoeMan> trism: Thanks!!!
[04:03] <grendal-prime> this is the most frustrating thing i have done in over 8 years
[04:03] <Supercomp> ok
[04:03] <anonnumberanon> what are you doing?
[04:04] <grendal-prime> trying to backup windows8 so i can remove it from the machine
[04:04] <grendal-prime> make sence to you?
[04:04] <anonnumberanon> in a way yes
[04:05] <anonnumberanon> Are we talking about a new laptop?
[04:05] <grendal-prime> if i could find something somewhere that would tell me that yes i can just install ubuntu and remove windows 8 from the machine  i would just do it
[04:05] <grendal-prime> the machine is a new acer aspire one  725
[04:05] <anonnumberanon> wait are you trolling? :)
[04:05] <grendal-prime> was supposed to come with windows 7  on it.
[04:05] <grendal-prime> trolling what?
[04:06] <anonnumberanon> I am putting Ubuntu on a ASpire 7750G right now but it's being a little bitch about it.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> !ot | anonnumberanon
[04:06] <anonnumberanon> !ot
Is there any data recovery software for ubuntu?
[04:06] <anonnumberanon> >ubuntu support
[04:07] <anonnumberanon> >implying actually installing it idoes not mean support
[04:07] <DoverMo> Supercomp, dont ask me about that D:
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> !tab | supercom32
[04:08] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon,  want to go priviate..i mean aparently we are not supposed to talk about installing issues in #ubuntu?
[04:09] <anonnumberanon> I think it was a bot that applied !ot on me.
[04:10] <grendal-prime> alrigh well i found something on getting into the uefi setting from withen windows
[04:11] <anonnumberanon> I erased Windows already.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> accusing people of trolling and idle chat is not install issues
[04:11] <grendal-prime> ya see i wound up there with the last pc..i sent it back
[04:11] <grendal-prime> wilee-nilee, i think he was kidding
[04:11] <grendal-prime> sometimes...we...(people) do that.
[04:11] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee you have to also find it amusing that we both had almost the same laptop, if not then you have to be a bot
[04:12] <nabn> so the graphics problem is still not fixed. here's what i did: updated from the main source. tried to ppa-purge ubuntu-tweak, but the ppa was not in use. Now i am doing a sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-tweak. Hope things work out
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> grendal-prime, did not see them I have them on ignore, I saw no reason to follow idle chat.
[04:13] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon, what version you trying to install?
[04:13] <grendal-prime> see this really sucks..any other machine id have the os installed and had the software on it 1 hour ago.
[04:13] <anonnumberanon> 12.04 because that is the version that Unetbootin had when I fired it up.
[04:13] <grendal-prime> ya.  thats what i tried with it as well
[04:14] <grendal-prime> well on the last pc.
[04:14] <grendal-prime> thing is acer says it is ubuntu certified.
[04:14] <anonnumberanon> gendal-prime, same for me, I am starting to believe that these machines are particularly proprietary
[04:14] <grendal-prime> last machine i had though was not the same machine.
[04:15] <grendal-prime> it was made by asus i believe
[04:15] <coolack> hello.  i rebooted and now my sound card is not detected
[04:15] <coolack> any ideas on how to get it back
[04:16] <anonnumberanon> I have installed Ubuntu on 2 Thinkpads, one HP Mini and one Asus, no problems.
[04:16] <anonnumberanon> I am at a loss with this one.
[04:16] <grendal-prime> you disabled fast boot
[04:17] <anonnumberanon> nope
[04:17] <grendal-prime> might try just disableing all the uefi stuff see if it works without it...seeing as how you are not able to do anything else
[04:18] <grendal-prime> turn off secure boot
[04:18] <grendal-prime> disable fast boot
[04:18] <grendal-prime> hey how are you getting into bios at post?
[04:19] <anonnumberanon> F2
[04:19] <grendal-prime> min wont do that
[04:19] <grendal-prime> i just get a black screen
[04:19] <grendal-prime> werid
[04:20] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon, i found something hold on
[04:22] <grendal-prime> just hold down f2 durring post?
[04:22] <sere> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[04:23] <anonnumberanon> ya that's what takes you to the bios on Acer
[04:25] <grendal-prime> not on this one not for me anyway
[04:29] <mojtaba> Hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5788739/
[04:29] <sere> BIOS : http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000192.htm
[04:29] <mojtaba> not Macro, a code in cmd?
[04:29] <mojtaba> or whatever
[04:33] <sere> mojtaba: you want the file text to be the email address? not sure what you want
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> nabn, So what does ubuntu-tweak have to do with graphic problems?
[04:34] <nabn> wilee-nilee, i am not sure at all. that was just a desperate guess
[04:34] <mojtaba> sere: I have a spreadsheet and in each cell there is a text with hyperlink, I want to just keep the hyperlink, not the text.
[04:34] <BF3> hey guys
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Ubuntu-tweak has no graphic control other then changing the theme or added PPA's
[04:34] <nabn> wilee-nilee, I also can't change the brightness levels. Is that connected with the graphics problem?
[04:35] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon,  ok i finly got it into bios
[04:35] <grendal-prime> what is the model number of yours?
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Not sure, You want to be careful at guessing here though you might end up with a reinstall, are you backed up?
[04:36] <BF3> i am wanting linux for gaming is linux lite a good choice i tried linux chrunchbang felt a lil slugish i am also a noob to linux
[04:37] <nabn> wilee-nilee. no, but i am pretty sure i am safe without the back up. Hopefully i dont mess up the windows partition because THAT would cause problems.
[04:37] <mojtaba> sere: any idea?
[04:37] <anonnumberanon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949322
[04:37] <anonnumberanon> grendal Im a 7750G
[04:38] <anonnumberanon> wondering if My USB stick is not formatted well
[04:38] <anonnumberanon> it is in FAT32 I know that
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Backups/images/clones are your best insurance.
[04:39] <mojtaba> Hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5788739/           *not macro, a code in cmd
[04:39] <grendal-prime> is 1304 a better route to go now?
[04:39] <sere> mojtaba: this is kinda OT, you might get a better response from #bash.. You might be able to do this through the spreadsheet client or possible change the html page or java.. you couldnt even create a php script .. it sounds like a simple language code though
[04:39] <grendal-prime> i mean with this uefi bs and all?
[04:39] <nabn> wilee-nilee, i appreciate it.  i do have a external disk with the necessary files backed up. This is my play computer so.
[04:40] <grendal-prime> i would really prefer to use the lts but...i mean ...darn it all to heck
[04:40] <nabn> wilee-nilee, do you think there is any way i can fix this without a reinstall? (referring to graphics problem)
[04:40] <mojtaba> sere: thanks
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Cool, I think I gave you some link regarding or information on graphics earlier but rebooted and lost that info, be sure to keep the details in your posts for help is all.
[04:41] <sere> mojtaba: couldnt = could .. your welcome
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Generally for help you would post your card and what s going on.
[04:42] <nabn> wilee-nilee, you did give me a link that was abou the ppa-purge. i checked that out. but was not sure which ppa's to remove.  i tried to remove ubuntu-tweak
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Ah, I think that was days ago, I don't remember what the problem was or is, I'm not a real top graphic problem helper I have had all my computers just work, so have not delved in there.
[04:43] <nabn> wilee-nilee, apparantly, i have the default vga controller. " VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[04:43] <nabn> "
[04:43] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon, did you set up a bios password?
[04:44] <nabn> wilee-nilee, okay. But i am grateful for your assistance. Still looking for help though.
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> nabn, No problem, just use lspci to find the exact card info and post that with the problems your having.
[04:45] <anonnumberanon> I thought about that, but it does not seem so, since I am able to set the Supervisor password.
[04:46] <grendal-prime> ya thats what i ment
[04:46] <grendal-prime> supervisor password
[04:46] <grendal-prime> youcannot disable secure boot unless you do that
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> THat info you posted may be what the lspci shows not sure really
[04:46] <nabn> had to reload xchat.
[04:46] <grendal-prime> i dont know that you even need to..
[04:46] <grendal-prime> but might try that
[04:46] <anonnumberanon> I don't have a secure boot option grendal-prime
[04:46] <nabn> wilee-nilee, it is.
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> cool
[04:48] <anurag> hello...
[04:48] <grendal-prime> right
[04:48] <grendal-prime> me neither thats whats werd
[04:50] <grendal-prime> tryynoot
[04:50] <grendal-prime> to do that
[04:50] <grendal-prime> like dont set that if you dont need one
[04:51] <anonnumberanon> im trying a different USB maker. hoping.
[04:53] <nabn> okay. i think it wouldn't hurt to repost  my problem again. i upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04. I have an acer aspire 4738z. The problem is, brightness controls don't work and the graphics looks wierd. Like when it does without the graphics drivers installed on windows.
[04:53] <nabn> coz that happened to me on windows. any help please?
[04:54] <holstein> nabn: what graphics device and driver?
[04:54] <nicekiwi>  I hhave an app thats installed locally in my home dir, how do I get that to be recognised and appear in the system menus etc?
[04:54] <yva> I just upgraded to 13.04 (clean install) and for some reasons the global menu is not working in terminal, gimp, ... any package I can check?
[04:55] <holstein> nicekiwi: you would create them manually
[04:55] <nabn> holstein, the default that came with the machine. someone on this room  said i am using the graphics module that came with the kernel. i do not have a dedicated graphics card.
[04:55] <yva> I already tried reinstalling appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt but it doesn't change anything. Is it worth removing my .gnome config folder and recreate one?
[04:56] <nabn> holstein, also, the additional drivers list on 'software and sources' is empty
[04:56] <holstein> nabn: what graphics card do you have? what driver are you using?
[04:57] <nabn> holstein, would an lspci output help? here it is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[04:57] <holstein> yva: i would just move it and test.. or make a new user
[04:57] <lrcaballero> I tried installing Pantheon DE | Gnome 3 on 13.04 and broke my system....has anybody had any success installing either?
[04:57] <holstein> nabn: intel is usually well supported "out of the box" from intel.. what would i do? look for and apply all upgrades, and try rebooting, hopefully after taking a kernel upgrade with better support for your hardware
[04:58] <yva> holstein, so you think it might be a problem there? should I rename the .gnome2 file or .gnome2_private?
[04:58] <holstein> lrcaballero: i just added the PPA.. for both in 12.04.. and had decent luck
[04:58] <holstein> yva: i usually just make a new user, login and test
[04:58] <anonnumberanon> grendal-prime, who said Acer was Linux compatible please link me
[04:59] <lrcaballero> holstein: does it only work for 12.04?
[04:59] <nicekiwi> holstein, how?
[04:59] <nabn> holstein, thanks. i believe i did that. but i do remember that while upgrading, there was an error about a broken kernel installation. Would reinstalling the kernel be a good idea?
[04:59] <holstein> lrcaballero: i cant say that. im just saying the ppa's worked for me in 12.04.. didnt try anywhere else
[04:59] <yva> holstein, ok I'm trying
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> nabn, You mention PPA's here is a ask ubuntu that mentions the two commonly used, do you have either? Basically this graphic setup is supposed to just work I believe. Could any tweaking on your part be the problem or these PPA's?
[05:00] <holstein> nabn: confirm that you are upgraded.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> nabn, http://askubuntu.com/questions/87090/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-an-intel-hd-graphics
[05:00] <grendal-prime> acer..did
[05:00] <grendal-prime> so did ubuntu
[05:00] <nabn> holstein, sorry. i haven't done 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' . will do that and get back.
[05:01] <nabn> wilee-nilee, thanks. i will check that link.
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Cool, good luck.
[05:01] <grendal-prime> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Acer/
[05:02] <nabn> wilee-nilee. thanks. :)
[05:02] <anonnumberanon> my model isn't certified, I wonder why
[05:03] <yva> holstein, ok same issue with a new user
[05:04] <holstein> yva: so, its safe to assume its not a user config
[05:04] <yva> holstein, where could the issue be then?
[05:04] <holstein> yva: what does the live CD do? are you up to date with upgrades?
[05:05] <yva> I don't have a live cd. I installed from a usb key. Yep I'm up to date with upgrades
[05:05] <holstein> yva: how does the live CD that you have put on USB boot the desktop? well? as expected?
[05:06] <yva> Not sure anymore. I don't even thing I have it on the usb stick anymore
[05:07] <holstein> yva: what i would do is remove the graphics driver from the equation
[05:07] <yva> If that's of any help, it works with firefox or empathy
[05:07] <holstein> yva: what does?
[05:08] <holstein> the global menu?
[05:08] <nabn> here's my graphics driver: VESA: Intel®Ironlake Mobile Graphics
[05:08] <grendal-prime> ya, im going for it with 13.04
[05:09] <grendal-prime> wft  i just dont care anymore
[05:09] <silv3r_m00n> ubuntu is derived from debian, does that mean that every new version of ubuntu uses every new version of debian ? or did it just use debian once when it began ?
[05:09] <yva> holstein, yes
[05:09] <grendal-prime> if it doesnt work..ill send the thing back  It was supposed to have win 7 on it. It even has the win7 key stuck on it still but they put win 8 on it when they shipped it.
[05:09] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, you could try 13.10, or fedora
[05:10] <DoverMo> grendal-prime, send it back!
[05:10] <holstein> yva: open the applications with the issues from the terminal and see if you see any errors
[05:10] <anonnumberanon> grendal-prime, why would you get a shitty Acer, get  a Thinkpad.
[05:10] <grendal-prime> if this does not work im not doing this for anyone anymore
[05:10] <grendal-prime> its not for me.
[05:10] <grendal-prime> i but system 76 stuff for me
[05:10] <anonnumberanon> same, doing it for my roommate
[05:11] <kingnick42> anyone had experience install Steam on ubuntu 12.04?
[05:11] <grendal-prime> ya 350 buck machine...  I like the system 76 stuff.
[05:11] <yva> holstein, just tried gedit and no errors
[05:11] <kostkon> kingnick42, what's the problem
[05:11] <holstein> !steam | kingnick42 worked as expected for me
[05:11] <grendal-prime> i have some things that bother me with the 76 machine..but really nothing like this sort of crap.
[05:13] <kingnick42> kostkon - I installed steam, no problems, it works fine. Downloaded TF2, it won't start. Starts to load (Get a black screen with a mouse cursor, and sound for like a second), then it crashes/closes, and it throws me back to steam
[05:13] <grendal-prime> i just cant believe all these hardware companys just paid ms to own there bioses.
[05:13] <anonnumberanon> what?
[05:13] <anonnumberanon> that made no sense
[05:13] <holstein> !ot | grendal-prime
[05:14] <kostkon> kingnick42, ok
[05:14] <kingnick42> note, I'm on a laptop, with a 610M graphics card, with bumblebee installed. I am using the optirun command when launching Steam, and I've tried both launching TF2 from there, and again directly from the terminal, again with the optirun command.
[05:15] <inflex> hiya, got an Acer laptop with Intel GPU chipset, connected to a dell 24" 1920x1200 screen via HDMI, however I also want the laptop screen to be used.  xrandr shows them both 'connected' but I can't seem to get the laptop to show anything
[05:15] <kingnick42> kostkon - I've got it working on 12.04 in the past, can't remember doing anything differently.
[05:15] <inflex> If I use gnome-control-center and try to apply the screen settings it just errors :(
[05:15] <kostkon> kingnick42, that's strange
[05:15] <kingnick42> inflex - go to system settings -> displays
[05:16] <inflex> kingnick42: yep, tried that, "failed to apply configuration: %s"
[05:16] <kingnick42> inflex -  there should be a function shortcut on your laptop keyboard that switches displays. Does this work?
[05:16] <inflex> DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface `org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR_2' on object at path /org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/XRANDR
[05:16] <kostkon> kingnick42, you could start it from the terminal and check for any error messages
[05:17] <inflex> kingnick42: seems to be non-responsive in this instance.
[05:17] <kingnick42> inflex - hmm, that's strange.
[05:17] <kingnick42> kostkon - I'll do this now, see what happens
[05:18] <inflex> kingnick42: telling me... and I've been in linux since '96 with slackware :(
[05:18] <anonnumberanon> lol this kid says he formatted his usb to NTFS and suddenly it worked, post #7
[05:18] <anonnumberanon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610031
[05:18] <kostkon> kingnick42, https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_Application_IDs
[05:19] <kostkon> kingnick42, or just take the id from its desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications
[05:19] <kingnick42> kostkon - you are right, it did error. I'll post it into dpaste and chuck the link here
[05:20] <kingnick42> kostkon - http://dpaste.com/1260682/
[05:20] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon,  this article sums up what i was saying about eufi and windows
[05:20] <grendal-prime> http://searchenterprisedesktop.techtarget.com/tip/UEFI-vs-BIOs-in-Windows-8-for-desktop-startup
[05:20] <stomanata> Hi. I connect my laptop to wireless. But when i plug lan card into switch my internet stop. How can i fix this?
[05:21] <anonnumberanon> I don't want to know about Windows 8, not even going to read.
[05:21] <anonnumberanon> I'm not trying to be arroguant or anything, I'm just trying to limit the damage to myself.
[05:22] <kostkon> kingnick42, are there any options for tf2 you can change in steam?
[05:22] <grendal-prime> i hate it..thing is  that guy explains why uefi is a pain.  And its because MS strong armed them.  it also explains how to get around the issue in theory.
[05:22] <anonnumberanon> I should just pull out the hard drive and hook it up to my desktop
[05:22] <grendal-prime> which might help you
[05:22] <grendal-prime> its a installed boot loader its on the mb
[05:22] <anonnumberanon> do the install that way
[05:23] <kostkon> kingnick42, i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/256431/play-steam-games-with-nvidia-optimus-laptop
[05:23] <anonnumberanon> ok I'll check it out while I -long-format the usb
[05:23] <inflex> kingnick42: well, I can manually fire up the display with xrandr, but it's mirrored atm, need to make them... offset etc, oh well, time to play
[05:23] <grendal-prime> dude if that works im down
[05:23] <grendal-prime> i dont think it will.
[05:23] <grendal-prime> but whatever
[05:24] <kingnick42> inflex - sounds like a plan
[05:24] <kingnick42> kostkon - thank you, I'll check that our
[05:24] <kingnick42> *Out
[05:25] <inflex> kingnick42: all good now... well, well enough;   xrandr --output LVDS1 --right-of HDMI1
[05:29] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon,  well in the mean time..i ran balls out on this and did what i would normally do..
[05:29] <grendal-prime> although normally i would have gone with lts but im trying the  13.04
[05:30] <inflex> kingnick42: ugh, though alas, Fluxbox is putting the menubar on the wrong screen, well, all fun and games, but hey, at least it's not like trying to manually build everything in the old days :)
[05:30] <yva> holstein, any suggestions? just check and I don't ahve the live cd anymore
[05:31] <kingnick42> inflex - if it was, I'd be using Windows :D
[05:31] <kingnick42> kostkon - Absolutely brilliant, primusrun steam allows me to launch TF2. Thanks
[05:32] <kostkon> kingnick42, nice!
[05:32] <anonnumberanon> grendal-prime, I don't understand what you are saying
[05:34] <grendal-prime> ok
[05:34] <grendal-prime> i enabled boot options in the bios.
[05:34] <grendal-prime> i set a administrator password.
[05:35] <grendal-prime> i stuck(forcefully)  a usb stick with 1304 on it into the machine. rebooted told it to boot from the usb and im installing.
[05:35] <grendal-prime> and i told it to get rid of win8
[05:35] <grendal-prime> we will see
[05:36] <anonnumberanon> wait you are saying that it worked?
[05:36] <grendal-prime> if it croaks..im done i give back the money that was spent on the hardware and i take the job i was offered this mouring
[05:41] <anonnumberanon> ok if this stick does not work I will reformat it in ntfs, then if not work, I will pull out the hard drive and wipe it, maybe it has been compromised
[05:41] <grendal-prime> im confused
[05:42] <grendal-prime> you are installing ubntu from a disk that is formated as ntfs?
[05:42] <anonnumberanon> about what specifically?
[05:42] <grendal-prime> that makes no sence whatsoever
[05:42] <anonnumberanon> explain why
[05:43] <grendal-prime> did you smoke something first?
[05:43] <anonnumberanon> no
[05:43] <holstein> !ot
[05:43] <grendal-prime> because literally..when you build from an iso an install disk..its going to whip the device..its going to install put it into its requred file system.
[05:43] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: You need to use the iso to make a bootable image .....not just copy it onto the usb
[05:44] <anonnumberanon> It does not wipe the device it installs over it.
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> you can dd the ubuntu iso to a usb
[05:45] <grendal-prime> dont know what your using dude
[05:45] <grendal-prime> dd is block level
[05:45] <anonnumberanon> curatrix I am using boot creating software, I'm not just copying the files to the usb
[05:45] <grendal-prime> an iso is an image of a file system
[05:45] <grendal-prime> holstein, this is relavent to the install of ubuntu.
[05:46] <holstein> 01:43 < grendal-prime> did you smoke something first?
[05:46] <holstein> ^^ that is not
[05:46] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: I would try a different proggie then......it should work flawlessly unless the iso is damaged
[05:46] <grendal-prime> legitamate question
[05:46] <holstein> grendal-prime: im not trying to be rude, just follow guidelines please
[05:47] <grendal-prime> to evaluate if the problem is between the desk and chair
[05:47] <anonnumberanon> curatrix you are giving me answers to different problems I believe.
[05:47] <grendal-prime> no he is not
[05:47] <NoiseFreak> moin jemand da der mir mit conky helfen kann?
[05:47] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: You could try downloading the iso again
[05:48] <grendal-prime> if you are using any prog that understands what an iso is..its going to create (block by block someone correct me if im wrong) a bootable disk with the file formate required for it to run
[05:48] <curatrix> grendal-prime: Thats right
[05:49] <NoiseFreak> sorry anyone here can help me with conky?
[05:49] <holstein> NoiseFreak: whats the isssue?
[05:50] <NoiseFreak> its dosent run and i don't know how to create a configfile
[05:50] <anonnumberanon> curatrix, I have tried 2 usb makers already including Unetbootin. I believe the boot record has been compromised by a virus.
[05:51] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee,  yes I believe I will try your way next
[05:51] <holstein> NoiseFreak: do you have it installed? i usually run it from the terminal while im setting  it up so i can just kil it easily
[05:51] <rudolf_> hi
[05:52] <NoiseFreak> i have installed with sudo apt-get install conky-all
[05:52] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: It should just wipe the bootable section when the iso is written. I doubt that it would bbe a virus/worm/trojan. It is more likely an issue with the iso or the flash drive
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, Have you md5summed the ISO, a virus in linux would be my last choice hardly likely.
[05:52] <holstein> NoiseFreak: im sure you checked this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[05:52] <grendal-prime> boooyaaaa im up
[05:52] <grendal-prime> it worked
[05:52] <yva> holstein, or somebody else, any idea why the global would be working in some programs (empathy) but not others (terminal, gedit)?
[05:52] <NoiseFreak> holstein, it run ;) when i get it terminal ;)
[05:52] <rudolf_> When i installed wine, it installed so many packages along with it and when I am removing wine from synaptics, it is removing only wine and is leaving behind all the packages it installed along with it. How to remove it completely?
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> !md5 > anonnumberanon
[05:53] <holstein> yva: bad iso.. broken system.. i would try from a live CD. if the desktop works, then you know its your install, because you have tested as another user
[05:53] <curatrix> rudolf_:  sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:53] <holstein> NoiseFreak: check the link i gave https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[05:53] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, this used to be a Windows machine with a lot of virus (13)
[05:53] <NoiseFreak> yes thank you holstein
[05:54] <rudolf_> curatrix, it is saying this "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, Ah, I would not use a computer comprised to load my usb.
[05:54] <anonnumberanon> guys you tell me to check the ISO but Puppy Linux did not work either! That is my recovery-go-to usb stick and it did not work.
[05:55] <curatrix> rudolf_: Close the download manager first
[05:55] <nabn> hi wilee-nilee. using the x-swat ppa didn't work.
[05:55] <grendal-prime> see the "were you smoking something" comment was warrented!
[05:55] <nabn> wilee-nilee, (referring to the graphics problem in acer computer earlier)
[05:55] <rudolf_> curatrix, what does autoremove do?
[05:55] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, if that is the reason why I am getting all these hardships, then I really will have learned something new.
[05:56] <curatrix> rudolf_: It should check the system for unrequired packages and remove them
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Right, my question was had you used these already and they may be part of the problem, not to use them necessarily. You had tried to purge PPA's not knowng which one might be the problem.
[05:56] <nabn> my graphics driver : VESA: Intel®Ironlake Mobile Graphics
[05:56] <rudolf_> Does it remove wine or does it have other functions too?
[05:56] <NoiseFreak> holstein i need help -.-
[05:56] <grendal-prime> i thought you were using a windows 8 machine?
[05:56] <rudolf_> curatrix, ok
[05:56] <curatrix> rudolf_: You could also try   sudo apt-get purge wine               but I find autoremove will generally pick up on anything that shouldnt be istalled
[05:57] <NoiseFreak> Create an empty file in your home folder and name it .conkyrc. how i do this?
[05:57] <yva> holstein, any chance I could repair? I'd like not to have to reinstall everything
[05:57] <grendal-prime> ok i have to know this... anonnumberanon you are creating these install usb sticks from where?
[05:57] <inflex> touch .conkyrc
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, Hard to say, but on my windows setups I fully cloned, and have never really had a problem, with safe use.
[05:57] <NoiseFreak> thanks :D
[05:57] <holstein> NoiseFreak: you can right click if you want
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> I'm*
[05:57] <nabn> wilee-nilee, wow. alright. no i didn't use those before.
[05:57] <inflex> NoiseFreak: you're welcome
[05:57] <holstein> yva: assuming you can figure out what to fix, sure.. but whats broken? and a reinstall could take about 8 minutes
[05:58] <rudolf_> curatrix, apt-get purge wine is just removing wine and it is then asking me to run autoremove :)
[05:58] <curatrix> rudolf_: Did you run autoremove?
[05:58] <anonnumberanon> grendal-prime, I have made it from both Windows and Debian, from unetbootin on both and from Universal USB Installer on Windows also.
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> nabn, Cool, I was just trying to track down any cause and effects related to others with this graphic set, not an area I'm real strong in though.
[05:58] <rudolf_> I ran purge first...goin to run autoremove now.
[05:58] <rudolf_> I ran purge first...goin to run autoremove now, curatrix
[05:59] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: Have you tried a different iso with the same flash drive?
[05:59] <curatrix> rudolf_: kewl ;)
[05:59] <yva> holstein, 8 minutes? Can I reinstall keeping all my programs and configs?
[05:59] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, I believe the hard drive present in the computer might be the source of the problem do to its compromised nature
[05:59] <rudolf_> thanks curatrix
[05:59] <holstein> yva: what if the issue is in one of those programs? or configs? if it were my system, i would just troubleshoot
[05:59] <anonnumberanon> curatrix I can try Debian
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, Possibly 13 viri is not a good sign.
[06:00] <nabn> holstein, the graphics problem on acer earlier, i think i have the intel card with "VESA: Intel®Ironlake Mobile Graphics" driver installed
[06:00] <grendal-prime> anonnumberanon, ya ya ok but the image came from a windows machine..that had viruses all over it?
[06:00] <nabn> holstein, and i did a proper dist-upgrade
[06:00] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, it was so bad that the intruder opened a chat window and started telling my roommate to "stop smiling"
[06:00] <holstein> nabn: the vesa driver comes with the kernel, so you do have if installed.. whats the issue?
[06:00] <yva> holstein, you also mentioned something about graphic card. shoudl I try this first?
[06:00] <anonnumberanon> 10 instances of stolen.data, a few trojans
[06:00] <grendal-prime> i dont want to be in this chat anymore
[06:00] <backup_nick> sorry about nickspam!
[06:01] <nabn> holstein, the graphics is not loading well. the resolution doesn't seem right. and i cant change my brightness settings also
[06:01] <anonnumberanon> grendal-prime, NO
[06:01] <anonnumberanon> lol
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, Lol, that is funny.
[06:02] <holstein> nabn: i would just go with what works.. if 12.04 supports the hardware well
[06:02] <holstein> yva: i would try loading alive CD.. if the live CD looks "normal", then i would assume the issue is in my system, and you have already tested without your current config
[06:03] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, yes and I spare you the language used during it all
[06:03] <grendal-prime> by the way it worked i am up and running after you get a real installable non viri infected iso to create your installer with..you should be fine on that machine.  I used 13.04 and i explained what i did in my above posts.
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, THe channel thanks you.
[06:03] <curatrix> lol
[06:03] <grendal-prime> good luck i need a margarita
[06:03] <yva> holstein, k will try a livecd
[06:03] <grendal-prime> peace people.
[06:03] <anonnumberanon> lol lucky
[06:05] <anonnumberanon> Ya he had Stolen.data, Backdoor.Message and Malware.Trace
[06:05] <rudolf_> curatrix, how did you know that download manager was open by this message "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"?
[06:07] <curatrix> I used the force
[06:07] <rusty0101> That message means that some application has the dpkg database open. If you're doing an apt-get, or trying to run aptitude or synaptic, it's likely that the reason you got the message is that download manager has the database open.
[06:07]  * curatrix liked his force answer better  ;)
[06:08] <rudolf_> hmm..ok thanks
[06:08] <rusty0101> so do I, but I'm hoping mine is helpful... :-)
[06:08] <Powermaniac> Hi, Anyone here possibly know how to recover some data if I accidentally overwrote the partition it was on with Ubuntu?
[06:08] <curatrix> lol
[06:08] <rudolf_> :)
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> Powermaniac, Testdisk is commonly used
[06:09] <Powermaniac> wilee-nilee: Can this be used via a usb as this is on a netbook with no CD drive
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> Powermaniac, There are a handful of others as well, depends on what you removed I suspect.
[06:10] <Powermaniac> wilee-nilee: A whole bunch of music but more importantly family photos
[06:10] <Powermaniac> wilee-nilee the music can be easily recovered the photos I'
[06:10] <Powermaniac> I'm not entirely sure
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> Powermaniac, You can run it from a live ubuntu cd
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> or usb
[06:10] <Powermaniac> Okay thank you
[06:11] <rudolf_> Powermaniac, I also accidently deleted everything in the same manner. :|
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> Powermaniac, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  no prob
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> Powermaniac, Took me one time to do that to start backing up and cloning everything.
[06:12] <Powermaniac> wilee-nilee: Yeah it's not my computer, I keep telling them (my parents) to back everything up but nope
[06:12] <Powermaniac> wilee-nilee, I personally just don't really have anything on my computer I care about enough to worry about losing
[06:13] <trijntje> Hi all. I'm trying to get my server connected to wifi with wpa_supplicant. I see the server in my router as connected, but  I can't ping anything from the server. if i run 'ifconfig' it looks like the 'inet addr' line is missing
[06:19] <anonnumberanon> last ISO try with a 386 Ubuntu I JUST installed on another laptop. If not, hard drive change..
[06:19] <ChRisHansen> does anyone know if there is a irc help channel anywhere ?
[06:20] <anonnumberanon> I guess you can go to the channel of your irc client that would be your best bet
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> ChRisHansen, Help in what way?
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> or on what
[06:21] <trijntje> nevermind my question, made a typo in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:21] <ChRisHansen> wilee-nilee: like how to change my nick shrtcuts , how to identify nickser ve whatever that means , uh, how to join channels that say i cant send to channel, uh, basically everything because this is confusing me
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> ChRisHansen, #freenode sounds like at the least registering is needed.
[06:22] <curatrix> ChRisHansen:  I think its  /msg nickserve help register
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> or that^^^^^
[06:22] <ChRisHansen> wilee-nilee: maybe i will find a tutorial on general irc how to on youtube or somewhere online i  think is best idea
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> ChRisHansen,Register then go to the #freenode channel in a couple of weeks and ask for a cloak to hide your IP
[06:23] <ChRisHansen> wilee-nilee: cool
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> ChRisHansen, There are channels that require being registered.
[06:23] <ChRisHansen> wilee-nilee: oh ok
[06:23] <anonnumberanon> >getting ready to open laptop
[06:24] <anonnumberanon> >get Leatherman, be a little unsatisfied
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> smile while dong it
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> doing*
[06:24] <anonnumberanon> >say wait a minute, remember I just bough a set of very small screw drivers for THIS PURPOSE
[06:24] <anonnumberanon> >feel immediately better
[06:25] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, ya well I hope no sick gremlins will jump at my throat
[06:25] <okinawa> soap
[06:26] <okinawa> someone can tell me where i can finde a frensh chan please
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> !fr
[06:26] <okinawa> tks
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[06:31] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, should I be safe connecting the hard drive to my PC without a virtual machine? All I will do is format it.
[06:32] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: i just registered this nick, now what do i do ?
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> anonnumberanon, I can't definitively answer that. If t were me I would do it from a live cd, and just plug it in probably, or just run a gparted live cd/usb and do it from the original computer.
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> YOU have problems though it seems geting a live cd is all.
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, I would check the channels you could not post in I suppose, not sure what you goals are here.
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> your*
[06:35] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: well i was able to "send to channel" now with this nick so thanks for that, now how i i block my ip
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Freenode wil do it now with a small donation, or for free after a couple of weeks
[06:35] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: oh ok
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Some people use tor, but that seems a bit over the top so to speak.
[06:37] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: how do i disable blutooth from coming live everytime i boot up? and if i dont use blutooth anyway can i just purge it? and what is tor again? is that a proxy thing that is way too complicated for me right now because i had a nice paid proxy on my mac called NetShade was very nice.
[06:38] <KriShANsiN> NetShade was worth the money i spent on it, it was my best software purchase ever, lots of annonnimity from that.
[06:39] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: i looked at tor for like 2 seconds and i almost had a heart attack
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, You can turn off the bluetooth start in startup applications, however you have to run a command to fill it to see what starts up. Tor is a proxy that bounces the data to hide your true IP.
[06:40] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: can i purge bluetooth? can i purge the driver for my camera on the front of my computer, and i think i will youtube tutorial search for tor how to.
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Here is a link on the startup application. http://linuxg.net/how-to-display-the-hidden-startup-applications-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Not sure on removing them.
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> I just cover the camera with a piece of tape, lol
[06:42] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: oh god
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> I Never used it anyway
[06:43] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: where is the startup applications window at?
[06:43] <flash> hi all
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, You can find it in the menu
[06:43] <reisio> KriShANsiN: yes you can disable the driver
[06:43] <reisio> flash: hi
[06:43] <flash> haw afr
[06:44] <flash> ?
[06:44] <flash> mykeybord is dead
[06:45] <gartral> flash: for someone typing with your mind, you're very legible! :P
[06:45] <reisio> flash: ps/2?
[06:46] <flash> reisio i'm a frenshy so it's not very easy for me to speak with you in abbrevations
[06:47] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: so after running the sed oneliner do i have to hide them again or just let them stay in the startup apps menu? and yes the sed oneliner worked thanks
[06:47] <reisio> flash: how does the keyboard connect to the computer? usb? ps/2? wireless?
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Nah, not sure why they are hidden now in the past they were not.
[06:48] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: ok gonna reboot bbl
[06:49] <uuser1234> how can I install packages on a livecd?
[06:49] <flash> the problem is last night in my room was a party becausqe of the music festival so a stupide asshole is turning of is beer in my keybord
[06:50] <reisio> uuser1234: same as not on a livecd
[06:50] <flash> and forgiveness for my very bad englise
[06:51] <uuser1234> reisio: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[06:52] <curatrix> flash:  Pull it apart and clean the circuit board (and contacts) with methylated spirits............Be sure to do outside as vapors can be fatal
[06:53] <reisio> flash: time for a new keyboard
[06:53] <anonnumberanon> a computer can boot from a live CD if it does not possess a hard drive?
[06:54] <_---------------> get a mechanical keyboard. something with cherry switches
[06:54] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: Yes
[06:55] <flash> reisio: u are right so i need an other opinion to choos my new keyboard because i'm in usa and i think the seller goes me arnaquet
[06:55] <tones>    what's the command to over ride and reset shutdown?
[06:56] <anonnumberanon> nothing worked on this computer, I tried everything to no avaiulk
[06:56] <tones> another shutdown is already running
[06:57] <reisio> flash: hrmm?
[06:57] <reisio> tones: shutdown -h now
[06:57] <flash> this serveur is just awesome, in my country no one is connected
[06:57] <_---------------> tones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[06:57] <curatrix> tones you can force a shutdown with   sudo shutdown -r now               or hold the power button for 6+ seconds
[06:57] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: i left and rebooted my computer and now i can not send to channel again, do i need to identify or register or something everytime i log into irc?
[06:58] <curatrix> KriShANsiN: Yes
[06:58] <KriShANsiN> curatrix: how to ?
[06:58] <curatrix> KriShANsiN: /msg nickserve identify password
[06:59] <KriShANsiN> curatrix: thank tou
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Your logged in it seems your name is up, not sure why it is different, check the freenode tab in your IRC client to be sure your logged in.
[06:59] <KriShANsiN> *u
[06:59] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: no i had to identify thanks
[06:59] <flash> reisio: swindle
[06:59] <reisio> flash: hrmm?
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:59] <curatrix> KriShANsiN:   Correction           /msg nickserv identify password
[07:00] <KriShANsiN> curatrix: no  i got it thanks lol
[07:00] <KriShANsiN> i caught the misspell
[07:00] <curatrix> ;)
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, I use hexchat and have it autolog me with a slight delay so as to not show the IP before being logged in.
[07:00] <tones> what I want to do is delay the shutdown that is in progress
[07:00] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: oh ok
[07:01] <_---------------> tones, I don't think you can delay it
[07:01] <alejin> hi
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, I have the join and leave off so I never see all that extra traffic as well, makes the IRC a bit more tolerable for me.
[07:02] <reisio> hi alejin
[07:02] <alejin> how r u
[07:02] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: oh ok , i better check my settings on Konversation
[07:02] <alejin> this is my first time here
[07:02] <joshtek0> How do I back up my system via ssh?
[07:02] <alejin> wot u do in here
[07:02] <flash> reisio: how can i join a frensh chan with that ?
[07:03] <_---------------> alejin, this is the support channel for Ubuntu
[07:03] <alejin> im lkng for a sex chat anybody can tell me wot to do?
[07:03] <alejin> oh ok
[07:03] <alejin> sorry
[07:04] <_---------------> alejin, you're on the wrong server for that. Freenode is for that
[07:04] <alejin> freenode?7
[07:04] <reisio> flash: with what?
[07:04] <flash> for a sex chat i know a frensh irc chan
[07:04] <_---------------> alejin, Freenode is not for that. This is freenode.
[07:04] <curatrix> alejin: Try icq.net
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> !op | alejin
[07:04] <anonnumberanon> if I fdisk I have to do fdisk /sdb or fdisk /dev/sdb?
[07:05] <alejin> frensh?
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> flash, You are risking a ban.
[07:05] <alejin> how can i get there?
[07:05] <flash> wait i'm helping alejin why a ban ?
[07:06]  * curatrix mumbles something about pedophile scum
[07:06] <KriShANsiN> wilee-nilee: i got it, HIde Join/Part/Nick events -checked-!
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> !ot | curatrix
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> KriShANsiN, Cool
[07:06] <flash> old on alejin i have to remember the name
[07:07] <elky> all three of you stop this discussion now. this is inappropriate talk
[07:07] <anonnumberanon> There is no such thing as formating a drive in Linux is there?
[07:07] <flash> i have a question are u all from usa ?
[07:07] <_---------------> anonnumberanon, yes, there is
[07:08] <flash> so what time is it in usa ?
[07:08] <_---------------> flash, no
[07:08] <anonnumberanon> _---------------, all the commands for fdisk have no format option
[07:08] <KriShANsiN> anonnumberanon: you need to go to your disks application
[07:08] <_---------------> anonnumberanon, that's because fdisk partitions, not formats
[07:09] <KriShANsiN> anonnumberanon: "disks" application
[07:09] <anonnumberanon> ahok I've been trolled, thanks
[07:09] <anonnumberanon> KriShANsiN, what are you even saying?
[07:09] <anonnumberanon> oh I see
[07:10] <flash> alejin: i'll mp you about the things we are talking
[07:10] <KriShANsiN> anonnumberanon: i am saying that to format a hard drive you should use your "disks" application if you have one, if not then you should get a smillar app to format and manage your disks
[07:11] <anonnumberanon> KriShANsiN, yes I am just not used to GUI solutions, that helps!
[07:11] <anonnumberanon> and I found it
[07:11] <alimj> Hello. I have a problem with my two custom shell scripts and cron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5788958/
[07:11] <alimj> The scripts run with sudo without any problem. But they do not work with cron
[07:12] <_---------------> anonnumberanon, filesystems are created with mke2fs
[07:12] <KriShANsiN> anonnumberanon: i have no other solutions.
[07:13] <okinawa> hello
[07:13] <KriShANsiN> anonnumberanon: my terminal skills are at 0.7% level.
[07:13] <_---------------> alimj, who is the owner and group of the script, and where is it located
[07:13] <flash> hi okinawa
[07:13] <logan> hello
[07:13] <alimj> The owner and group is root:root
[07:13] <reisio> _---------------: least annoying nick ever
[07:13] <alimj> location is: /usr/local/sbin/
[07:14] <_---------------> reisio, I sense facetiousness
[07:15] <flash> okinawa why are u connected with my sesion ?
[07:15] <_---------------> reisio, you know how to tab-complete nicks, right?
[07:15] <alimj> and user privileges: -rwxr-xr-x
[07:15] <Random832> _---------------: it's annoying to look at, not to type.
[07:16] <okinawa> because (je m'en branler)
[07:16] <reisio> it's also annoying to type
[07:16] <reisio> but mostly to look at :p
[07:17] <_---------------> lol. I find camelcase and randomcase irritating to type
[07:17] <telemarketer> hello?
[07:17] <_---------------> telemarketer, we're here
[07:17] <alimj> _---------------: The strange thing is scrip is executed by cron. I tested that by adding "echo somthing >> /tmp/testing.txt"
[07:17] <IdleOne> All this annoying nick chatter is offtopic
[07:17] <telemarketer> am I in efnet ?
[07:17] <telemarketer> nope......freenode
[07:17] <_---------------> telemarketer, no, freenode
[07:17] <telemarketer> sorry
[07:20] <okinawa> how know hellsing abridged ?
[07:21] <alimj> _--------------- and other geeks: Any Idea? It is strange. Why it is not possible to change default gateway from cron (for root user)???
[07:21] <flash> okinawa: yup
[07:24] <_---------------> alimj, put spaces in crontab, not tabs
[07:25] <flash> who have D3
[07:25] <joshtek0> How do I back up my system via ssh?
[07:26] <_---------------> joshtek0, can you tell us what you actually need to do?
[07:26] <SuperLag> reisio: wow. you're not kidding.
[07:26] <alimj> _---------------: I do not think so. The scipt is executed. I tested it already. I added "echo something >> /tmp/somefile.txt" at the end of my scipts and assured they are executed at desired time.
[07:27] <reisio> _---------------: good luck using camelCase on your nick :p
[07:27] <reisio> ---‾---
[07:27] <_---------------> alimj, cron logs somewhere.
[07:28] <_---------------> alimj, my system sends me mail that I pick up with mutt
[07:29] <alimj> _---------------: It does not generate report for root on my system. I will try to figure it out somehow. Maybe I should redirect output of the script to some text file
[07:30] <_---------------> alimj, /var/log/syslog
[07:31] <anonnumberanon> I might have to hack my boot CD into a UEFI boot CD to make this install happen
[07:31] <reisio> uhuh
[07:31] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: Have you disabled secureboot?
[07:31] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: In the BIOS
[07:31] <alimj> _---------------: Checked it. No errors. Only shows that script is executed...
[07:32] <curatrix> afk for a sec
[07:32] <anonnumberanon> curatrix, I don't have secureboot in the BIOS
[07:32] <_---------------> alimj, maybe try outputting route to file before and after to see if it's being changed
[07:33] <alimj> _---------------: good idea
[07:34] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: I'm not sure. Usually UEFI works fine if secureboot is disabled (I had always figured secureboot to be an integral part of UEFI)
[07:35] <_---------------> alimj, &2>
[07:36] <anonnumberanon> How do you disabale secureboot? it isn't an option in this BIOS. There is an option that lets you disable D2D recovery though,..
[07:37] <_---------------> alimj, search for those 3 chars "&2>" to learn about error redirects
[07:37] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: I dont know. I haven't come across one without the other before.
[07:39] <Random832> _---------------: 2>&
[07:40] <Ndhakara> hi, I have a problem with youtube videos. ubuntu-restricted extras are installed and tried with html5 too. But in chrome/chromium/firefox/opera I can not watch youtube videos, video loading cricle moves but after "this video is currently unavaible" error message come. what should I do?
[07:41] <DoverMo> does chromium use pepper flash?
[07:41] <Ndhakara> pepper flash?
[07:41] <_---------------> flash paper?
[07:41] <flash> Ndhakara: it's me
[07:42] <DoverMo> Ndhakara, you could try pepper flash
[07:42] <Ndhakara> DoverMo: how can I try it and what is pepper flash?
[07:43] <flash> tout le monde il est chaud ?
[07:43] <DoverMo> Ndhakara, also have you installed 'flashplugin-installer'?
[07:44] <Ndhakara> DoverMo: yes already installed
[07:44] <flash> AFK miamia
[07:44] <curatrix> Is adobe-flashplugin  installed        type   sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[07:45] <no-n> when I boot my ubuntu usb and select "Check Integrity" it says "keys:press any key to reboot" instead of "no errors found" as it used to do. same thing on 2 separate usbs. so, I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD . is it necessary to do both methods ("Checking the CD directly" + "Check the files on the CD") or just one?
[07:47] <dcraig> I'd think checking the files would be more than sufficient
[07:47] <Ndhakara> curatrix: uninstalled flashplugin-installer and install adobe-flashplugin but still no video stream
[07:47] <no-n> ty
[07:48] <curatrix> Ndhakara: Try a restart
[07:51] <anonnumberanon> wilee-nilee, ok can use the HDD instead of the USB to create a boot media? If it refuses to boot from the usb under any circumstances it surely will boot from the HDD if I set it up right?
[07:53] <curatrix> Ndhakara: wb
[07:53] <Ndhakara> curatrix: nah, restarted but still no video
[07:54] <Ndhakara> curatrix: tried with html5 and flash too
[07:54]  * curatrix hmmm's
[07:55] <curatrix> Ndhakara: video drivers all ok?
[07:55] <Ndhakara> curatrix: yea nvidia installed and there is no problem with other videos sites and games
[07:56] <curatrix> this might sound dumb....but try restarting your router/modem.
[07:56] <curatrix> if you haven't already
[07:57] <Ndhakara> tried, changed dns too :) but ı cant watch f ucking youtube videos :), well I cleared all cookies too
[07:57] <curatrix> k
[07:57] <curatrix> just running through the motions
[07:57] <alimj> _---------------: I found the problem source. I should have used /sbin/route rather than route
[07:57] <alimj> Thanks and bye
[08:00] <curatrix> Ndhakara: Have you tried creating a new user to see if it is a local (as opposed to being a system) problem
[08:01] <Ndhakara> curatrix: hmm, nice idea I ll try
[08:01] <curatrix> If it works with a different user, you might be able to fix it simply by deleting firefox/chromium config files
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> !language | Ndhakara
[08:09] <james-ubc> hey is there a way to reverse two finger horizontal scroll?
[08:09] <james-ubc> I'm on 12.04 and with reverse scrolling enabled horizontal scroll is still regular
[08:20] <GutenTag> can I make a live cd of Ubuntu server?
[08:21] <GutenTag> i'm trying to do a dual boot of windows 8 (pre-install) and ubuntu 13.04 server
[08:35] <MonkeyDust> GutenTag  the other way: use tasksel to make a server out of a regular ubuntu installation
[08:39] <aamer> let's say i want a program to start as a daemon, the command starts with "exec start-stop-daemon -S -c $uid:$gid -k $umask -x /usr/bin/....." where should I put that command?
[08:39] <walltender> http://askubuntu.com/questions/306920/cant-sleep-cant-shutdown-might-be-networking-related
[08:41] <aamer> in the installation tutorial they say: edit the upstart job like so.....
[08:41] <aamer> sorry, edit the upstart job confs like so.....................
[08:41] <aamer> so where can I find these and edit them?!
[08:48] <walltender>  hi guys.  I'm having trouble putting my computer to sleep and shutting down, here's some more info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306920/cant-sleep-cant-shutdown-might-be-networking-related
[08:48] <konraddo> hi, can someone help with my script: http://pastebin.org/Rsc9BWcL i need to count number of lines for all files in my folder
[08:50] <curatrix> konraddo: Bad link
[08:50] <konraddo> damn
[08:51] <curatrix> walltender: You can try shutting down the network service before rebooting the system to see if it is the issue.               Use    service --help
[08:53] <Mark_> Just me or is the urxvt not part of the default ubuntu sources?
[08:54] <curatrix> walltender: Sorry, that help was a little basic, instead use         man service
[08:55] <Halleon_> Hello, I need a little help, need a script that will kill irxevent -d .lircrc and than load irxevent -d .lircrc.2
[08:56] <Halleon_> so that I can use 2 modes on remote
[08:57] <Halleon_> anyone can help?
[08:57] <walltender> curatrix: as described in the post, stopping network service helps to shut down but permanent solution.
[08:58] <Halleon_> I;m just few days on ubuntu so don;t have knowledge to do it myself :D
[09:03] <curatrix> walltender: Just out of curiosity, is 'wake on lan' enabled in the bios?
[09:03] <konraddo> wc -l filename returns 3 filename, but i want only number of lines, without filename at the end. i don't see appropriate option in man wc, how can i do that?
[09:03] <konraddo> i mean, it returns number of lines and writes filename, i want only number of lines
[09:04] <walltender> curatrix: wake on lan? Which setting does it belong to? I'll go check.
[09:05] <curatrix> walltender: it could be under 'power' or 'events'. It is usually pretty easy to find
[09:05] <walltender> curatrix: Ok, I go check. Reboot now ...
[09:13] <wafic> Good morning
[09:16] <walltender> curatrix: I reset the bios to default. Now the wake up on LAN is "AC enabled" but still can't shutdown/sleep. When it fails to shut down, Ctrl+Alt+delete gives a messages like networking interrupt in external loop ... then it reboots
[09:17] <BigWig> Hello, I'm trying to configure a playstation one emulator, however it requires "opengl library". Problem is the package manager returns a ton of different packages, which one do I need?
[09:20] <curatrix> walltender: it should be disabled. I was just seeing if it was the acpi (power management) link with the network adapter
[09:21] <curatrix> sometimes the wake on an function can flag the stack and prevent shutdown
[09:21] <curatrix> *wake on lan
[09:23] <idanoo> ^_^
[09:23] <walltender> curatrix: So you thinks that's the problem.
[09:24] <ThePendulum> woop woop I messed up grub
[09:24] <idanoo> highfive!
[09:25] <curatrix> walltender: To be honest, I have come across the k20network-manager before - and been unsuccessful - I am still trying to figure out why the lenovo's have the hang issue
[09:26] <walltender> curatrix: You mean, the same problem happens to you. How did you solve it in the end?
[09:27] <ThePendulum> I repartitioned my SSD and apparently GRUB/BURG suffered from that. Is there a way to fix it?
[09:27] <curatrix> walltender: No, i have just come across this issue before with others (I generally buy/use toshiba's)
[09:28] <reisio> ThePendulum: grub-install
[09:28] <reisio> ThePendulum: think update-grub might do it
[09:29] <reisio> ThePendulum: probably this same procedure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:29] <curatrix> ThePendulum: It might pay to do a search for "grub-repair"
[09:30] <bazhang> !fixgrub > ThePendulum
[09:30] <ThePendulum> Hmm, let's see
[09:30] <ThePendulum> I didn't ruin it by installing Windows btw, but I guess that doesn't matter
[09:31] <KriShANsiN> what does it mean when i restart my com and it says on the shutdown screen "Broadcast message unknown root@<myname> <time>" ?
[09:31] <idanoo> It it just notifying anyone logged on that the comp is being shutdown
[09:31] <idanoo> incase there are other users logged on
[09:31] <idanoo> it's a broadcast
[09:32] <KriShANsiN> idanoo: is this routine then?
[09:32] <idanoo> Yeah, it's completely fine :)
[09:32] <KriShANsiN> idanoo: ty
[09:32] <GutenTag> I just installed ubuntu server 13.04...but it couldn't set up the network it seems.  if I run ifconfig, I don't see eth0 (should I?)
[09:32] <curatrix> KriShANsiN: Welcome to linux
[09:32] <kubanc> hellow. I have a problem with ubuntu 13.04. my wireless and ethernet card are disabled and i cannot user internet. Any idea. It looks like it's blocking network devices...
[09:33] <idanoo> ifconfig -a
[09:34] <KriShANsiN> how do i give a small donation to freenode in order to get my ip blocked out right now and how much is small? 5 usd is enough?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> KriShANsiN: ask in #freenode
[09:34] <KriShANsiN> gordonjcp: oh ok
[09:34] <Zeev> hello, I installed eclipse on ubuntu 12.04 and I can't resize eclipse window. anyone knows a workaround? It's menu also doesn't show on unity on the top titlebar but rather attached to the eclipse window itself when I try to resize/maximize with mouse I can't maximize buttons are not shown neither in top unity bar nor on the window itself
[09:35] <Daghdha> Hi, i am looking at a program in software center and as add-ons it lists MySQL. but i already have that installed. SHould i be worried?
[09:35] <petrus_> hi
[09:35] <GutenTag> idanoo: was that for me?  I've done ifconfig -a
[09:35] <GutenTag> there's lo, p3p1, and wlan0
[09:36] <idanoo> GutenTag: yeah sorry, nothing showing? you can try a 'dmesg | grep -i eth0'
[09:36] <lenz> Hey there.
[09:36] <Daghdha> It'snot clear to me if add-ons refers to a specific item for the package. or if it applies to another package. Namely the MySQL server package that will install (And probably break) my existing one
[09:36] <lenz> How do I make my conky script start up by default? (autostart)
[09:37] <curatrix> GutenTag:        inxi - N
[09:37] <curatrix> GutenTag: sorry   correction    inxi -N
[09:38] <GutenTag> idanoo: dmesg | grep -i eth0 returns 3 lines, the last is IPv6: .... eth0: link is not ready
[09:38] <GutenTag> maybe i need it to be ipv4?
[09:39] <Daghdha> http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2708/3ln1.jpg
[09:39] <curatrix> GutenTag: it should be ipv4  (normally for a ohme network
[09:39] <curatrix> *home
[09:41] <GutenTag> curatrix: can you help with a good google search phrase to (re)configure it for ipv4?
[09:41] <curatrix> GutenTag: Or you could enable ipv6 on your router if it is available.  either should work
[09:41] <curatrix> GutenTag: Checking...
[09:41] <petrus_> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/get-weather-or-system-info-on-your.html
[09:42] <Daghdha> Why does it want to install another mySQL?
[09:42] <petrus_> there are instructions for the conky script as well
[09:44] <curatrix> GutenTag: This might do it    http://www.ihavetheknowledge.nl/eng/Linux/Distributions/Ubuntu/Disable-IPv6-in-Ubuntu
[09:50] <GutenTag> curatrix: trying it now
[09:53] <genesis_> ne ideas on setting up cluster computing on  lan
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> genesis_  is that a server? if yes: #ubuntu-server
[09:54] <GutenTag> no luck
[09:55] <Zeev> so I can't resize/maximise eclipse window. I've read about this bug: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=330563 , also this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16736/menu-missing-in-lotus-notes-8-and-eclipse-in-unity, and I can't even find:  /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so in my ubuntu 12.04 there's only /usr/lib/gtk-3.0 directory with no 'menuproxies' subdir under it.
[09:55] <GutenTag> curatrix: i get the same output when I run dmesg -- but I can't tell if this is OLD output or new.
[09:56] <genesis_> we can setup a server sure
[09:56] <Zeev> does eclipse work with ubuntu 13.04? I want to be able to resize/minimize eclipse - is it possible with a keyboard
[09:59] <walltender> curatrix: It's not wake on lan.
[10:00] <Sud> Newcomer
[10:00] <Sud> new to irc
[10:02] <sulab3> will i be able to use this program [ familyhotel.fr ] with ubuntu? will wine be of help here?
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> Zeev  140+ people in #eclipse
[10:03] <kubanc> hello! when i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic i get: Sorry a problem accurred while installing software: package: compat-wireless-alx-dkms
[10:04] <DJones> sulab3: It looks like its Windows only, you may find that you can run it with Wine, but it could be buggy/not work, its not something I've seen asked about here.  It might be worth asking in ##winehq which is the specilised channel for Wine issues
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> !appdb | sulab3 read this to find out
[10:07] <sulab3> ok, thank you
[10:08] <ThePendulum> How do I set the device when using grub-install?
[10:10] <DJones> sulab3: There is also http://www.codeweavers.com/ which is paid for method of installing some windows app's which could be an option is basic wine won't work with that app
[10:11] <sulab3> ok :)
[10:12] <DJones> sulab3: Just as a last thought, if you're computer is able, you could run Windows in virtualbox to run the app (maybe a last resort) :)
[10:13] <sulab3> yes thank you i heard that but i wanted to get rid of windows...
[10:16] <GutenTag> ok, I don't have an eth0, but I do have a p3p1 device...is that really my eth0?
[10:17] <hacktus0> what is chanel for developpers ?
[10:18] <Zeev> MonkeyDust: in here https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=330563 they say it's an ubuntu bug not an eclipse bug.
[10:19] <DJones> hacktus0: There is #ubuntu-devel That might be what you're looking for
[10:19] <lenz> Hey guys.
[10:20] <hacktus0> DJones thanks you
[10:20] <Zeev> MonkeyDust: also in here http://askubuntu.com/questions/16736/menu-missing-in-lotus-notes-8-and-eclipse-in-unity they say to edit file: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so , but I have only gtk-3.0 subdir and no 'menuproxies' under it
[10:20] <lenz> I have a little conky script, the config is located in home/me/.conkyrc. How can I put the conky in autostart
[10:21] <Zeev> MonkeyDust: u know by any chance how to resize window with keyboard, idk about menu not showing I just want to resize the window and when I hover with mouse over the border resize cursor doesn't appear
[10:22] <Zeev> eclipse's window border*
[10:22] <lenz> I know there is some kind of autostart file somewhere
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> Zeev  maybe look for a linux equivalent for lotus
[10:23] <wilee-nilee> lenz, You can use startup applications it is in the menu, look at this link to unhide what is there then make a launcher pointing to that script. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[10:23] <Zeev> MonkeyDust: no lotus, eclipse. they also mention eclipse on that askubuntu.com question
[10:23] <Zeev> MonkeyDust: nevermind.
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> lenz  dash menu > type: startup applications
[10:24] <wilee-nilee> lenz, I have my conky in home not a file and launch it this way
[10:25] <mic__> good day folks, wondering is this a good channel for a complete novice to learn linux
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> mic__  sure
[10:26] <jrib> mic__: this is a good channel for both novice and experts; just ask your question and we'll help you if we know the answer
[10:27] <DJones> mic__: If you're using Ubuntu, then yes this a good channel to get support for issues, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic which is used for general chat and advice
[10:27] <mic__> k well im trying to get my wireless card going, seems to recognize the card but each time i put in the password the message i get is i need to use my password lol
[10:28] <lenz> ok I'll put it into that GUI option, thanks wilee-nilee  and MonkeyDust
[10:28] <lenz> but isn't there some init file IIRC?
[10:28] <mic__> im using 12.01 and it recognizes the network
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> mic__  it's either 12.04 or 12.10
[10:29] <mic__> i also have proprietary linux software for the card but dont know how to install, figured it recognizes the card with its own drivers
[10:30] <mic__> sorry 12.10
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | mic__ read this a bit to get familiar with it
[10:30] <petrus_> hey lenz !!! look at this link : http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/get-weather-or-system-info-on-your.html
[10:30] <dotcom> Hello there. I recently tried to download a 210 MB pdf file in firefox. Unfortunately for some unknown reasons, firefox downloaed only 180 MB and stopped downloading it and showing that download has completed. Now i can't resume download in firefox. Is there a way that i can resume the remaining file contents in ubuntu terminal?
[10:31] <dotcom> By the way, the website supports resume capability.
[10:31] <petrus_> with wget ... "yes"
[10:32] <mic__> thanks ill have a read through the docs. probably be back later. bye for now
[10:32] <Powermaniac> Excuse me, but would anyone know how to search for all image files in Xubuntu? And then move all those files into a folder?
[10:32] <Powermaniac> with any image format
[10:33] <petrus_> http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/
[10:33] <Powermaniac> As I believe I have just saved a whole bunch of photos from being formatted but they are mixxed in with 1000s of other files that it also decided to save
[10:35] <pc_magas> Hello I want to plot all files into directoreis and subrirectoreis as a tree
[10:35] <pc_magas> (i know tree comand but the output is text)
[10:36] <pc_magas> and I want ti as Image
[10:36] <dotcom> Yes!! I have resumed it using "wget -c mywebsitelink"
[10:36] <dotcom> Thank you
[10:36] <bekks> pc_magas: You dont want that. You really dont. You dont want to plot tenthousands of directories with hundreds of thousands of files.
[10:36] <bekks> pc_magas: What exactly are you trying to achieve?
[10:37] <pc_magas> Actually I want to show all my files of a project intyo a tree view
[10:37] <bekks> pc_magas: find /my/project/folder/
[10:37] <jrib> pc_magas: use tree and take a screenshot?
[10:37] <GutenTag> curatrix: I fixed my problem.  Let me know if you're interested in the solution.
[10:38] <pc_magas> No I am into my direcotry of my pfoject and I want a nice grapghical view of the folder for documentation
[10:38] <curatrix> GutenTag: Yeah
[10:38] <pc_magas> Shoiwing them as graph
[10:38] <GutenTag> curatrix: so, I manually edited: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[10:38] <jrib> pc_magas: I don't understand how tree does not satisfy that
[10:38] <jrib> or find
[10:39] <GutenTag> curatrix: through dmesg, I was able to see the mac address, so I used that and just added a line in that file above and did a full reboot
[10:39] <curatrix> GutenTag: Awesome .....I have committed the above to my memory xD
[10:39] <pc_magas> In want three output to show like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Binary_tree.svg/220px-Binary_tree.svg.png
[10:40] <GutenTag> I really have no idea what I did to be honest...but I just took a random shot and it seems to have worked.
[10:40] <pc_magas> Am i Clear now
[10:40] <VOILA> PLease Help Me : I have to install ubuntu ... Right now I have windows 7 64 bit home premium ... My Cd is not being detected .. so I am not able to boot from it :( .. I have tried all fixes but in vain
[10:40] <pc_magas> VOILA doet it boot from USB?
[10:40] <VOILA> I am fucked by this window
[10:40] <pc_magas> your computer
[10:40] <pc_magas> ?
[10:41] <jrib> pc_magas: look into graphviz
[10:41] <bekks> VOILA: How did you create the CD?
[10:41] <GutenTag> now that I have internet access, is 'apt-get update' the first thing I should do?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  it would be something like        find ~ -name "*.jpg" -exec cp {} ~/test \;
[10:41] <VOILA> pc_magas, Yeas I tried .. I installed linuxpendrive some programm .. it make make usb bootable kind of .. but when I was installing ubuntu .. after some steps .. it throw error .. NO installer found Cd .. some sort of error
[10:42] <wilee-nilee> !language | VOILA
[10:42] <jrib> pc_magas: there are lots of examples if you search things like "graphviz directory" or "graphviz directory tree".  I don't know offhand of a "built-in" solution
[10:42] <VOILA> I am sorry
[10:42] <VOILA> ubottu, I am sorry
[10:42] <bekks> VOILA: How did you create the cd?
[10:42] <VOILA> bekks, My Cd is not detectable .. its simeple .. I download ubuntu12 then brun it on dvd
[10:43] <VOILA> but Windows is not detecting it
[10:43] <bekks> VOILA: I stopped reading at the 8th occurence of ".." in two sentences. Please use known interpunctuation.
[10:43] <pc_magas> VOILA Use Unetbootin to make Ubuntu live usb
[10:44] <pc_magas> But first of all check id Ubuntu Image was downloaded right with some md5 checksun check
[10:44] <pc_magas> But first of all check id Ubuntu Image was downloaded right with some md5 checksum check*
[10:44] <VOILA> live USB means .. I can installed Ubuntu from it right ? I
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> VOILA  yes
[10:44] <VOILA> pc_magas, Yeah I checked Hash . Its correct
[10:44] <VOILA> ok let me try
[10:44] <pc_magas> VOILA ive USB means you have a USB stick that runs as Live CD and you can install from it
[10:45] <pc_magas> live*
[10:45] <VOILA> pc_magas, Ok I hope it will work .. pc_magas :)
[10:45] <hacktus0_> VOILA do you want to install on virtualbox ?
[10:46] <VOILA> hacktus0_, Nope Becuase it was damn slow on virtualbox
[10:46] <nickm012> Trying to install ubuntu 13.04, I checked the option LVM, and it basically deleted my hard disk partitions. Can I recover my partitions?
[10:46] <hacktus0_> VOILA do you change your BIOS
[10:46] <hacktus0_> ?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> nickm012  from your backups
[10:47] <nickm012> Monkeydust so I cannot recover the partitions on the disk?
[10:47] <antoniofrancesco> il grande gatsby
[10:47] <hacktus0_> VOILA do you change your BIOS
[10:48] <VOILA> hacktus0_, Yeah I did it .. hacktus0_ I already created live usb ... But when i was in between installtion process .. process terimate because it prompt me for .. didn't find installer ..
[10:48] <VOILA> I don't remeber excat error .. but was related to Cd drive and installer ..
[10:48] <pc_magas> nickm012, try this http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> nickm012  not sure
[10:49] <kexibq> hi guys, i have a mate who is looking to install ubuntu from within windows, without reboot, ther is already a partition waiting for the os, whats the best method of doing so?
[10:49] <hacktus0_> do you burn on CD or USB ?VOILA
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> kexibq  there is no way of doing it that way
[10:51] <VOILA> hacktus0_, Ok .. First I burn Cd from my frnds computer ... But when I tried to install from it .. I found cd is not being dected in my pc .. so i went for pendrive ... I used some tool pendrivelinux ..
[10:51] <hacktus0_> VOILA you must do like that (for CD/DWD) : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[10:51] <kubanc> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu 13.04
[10:51] <VOILA> Then My system boots from pendrive .. but in between ubuntu prompt me .. installer not found .. kind of error ..
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> kubanc  sure, backup and reinstall, make sure you create a separate /home partiton this time, it's easier and faster to reinstall ubuntu
[10:52] <pc_magas> VOILA did you used UnetBootin?
[10:52] <bekks> kubanc: Insert the installation media, and reinstall. But why?
[10:53] <VOILA> pc_magas, Yeah I am using ... Which type of option should I use .. 12.04_live or what ?? I have image of ubuntu_12.04_Alternate_0x386
[10:53] <kubanc> bekks, what about without eny media? bekks bot of my wthernet cards are not working, and i already tried to install different drivers, but computer freezed...
[10:54] <pc_magas> Just go to second option and select your image
[10:54] <pc_magas> Just go to second option and select your .iso image*
[10:54] <VOILA> pc_magas, Second option is soem 12.04_NetInstall ... correct
[10:54] <VOILA> :)
[10:54] <bekks> kubanc: Your Intel based card worked, you said earlier.
[10:55] <pc_magas> Oh you booted thewt use the default one
[10:55] <pc_magas> and press enter
[10:55] <kubanc> bekks, well at start my wireless card was working, but after audio codec update my wireless card stopped working, and also ethernet card is not working,
[10:55] <armin> anyone an idea why the fstab entry nfs mount doesn't come up on boot on my system? yes i already tried _netdev mount option.
[10:56] <bekks> kubanc: Earlier, you said your Intel wired card worked.
[10:56] <kubanc> bekks, i don't have intel wireless card
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> armin  i guess you have to use cifs in fstab, not nfs
[10:56] <armin> m(
[10:56] <bekks> kubanc: I am not talking about wireless cards. I am talking about your intel wired card.
[10:57] <VOILA> pc_magas, I am doing
[10:57] <bekks> armin: So whats your entry then?
[10:57] <kubanc> bekks, well i don't know beacuse i wasn't using it before. I have tried to use it now, because my wireless cars was not working, but with no luck...
[10:58] <armin> bekks: 192.168.2.10:/mnt/caviar /mnt/caviar nfs auto,_netdev,rw,hard,intr 0 0
[10:58] <pc_magas> VOILA doing what booting from or making the usb?
[10:58] <pc_magas> if the second use the second option
[10:59] <pc_magas> if first use the default
[10:59] <VOILA> pc_magas, I am now making USB
[10:59] <pc_magas> So use the second one to select your own iso image
[10:59] <VOILA> yes .. ubet is on working
[10:59] <VOILA> :)
[11:00] <VOILA> pc_magas, Hopefuly it should work
[11:00] <VOILA> :( :)
[11:00] <Powermaniac> Excuse me, after you are finished can someone help me out please?
[11:00] <bekks> Powermaniac: Wth what exactly? Just ask, please.
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Powermaniac
[11:00] <k1l_> !details | Powermaniac
[11:01] <Powermaniac> Okay, okay, okay
[11:01] <d8bhatta> Hello Guys
[11:02] <Powermaniac> So I understand that find -name "*.jpg" will find all files with the .jpg extension on my computer. Now how do I search for all image types and then move all the found images to a folder?
[11:02] <d8bhatta> I am getting following error when I try to browse my site
[11:02] <d8bhatta>  RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `ubuntu' does NOT match server name!?
[11:02] <d8bhatta> can somebody please help me?
[11:02] <d8bhatta> I have googled it but no solution yet
[11:03] <Powermaniac> Oh sorry and I'm running Xubuntu 13.04 I believe...
[11:03] <Minux> please i need help i joined now by guest account and i need to install new account from settings menu but it don't work :(
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> d8bhatta  try #ubuntu-server
[11:04] <Minux> please any help with creat new account ??
[11:05] <minimec> Minux: The guest account will not allow you to create a new user. You have to use the 'sudo' user to do so.
[11:05] <Minux> so please can u tell me how i can use the sudo ??
[11:06] <bekks> Minux: Log in as your normal user, and create the user then.
[11:06] <Minux> i'm a new linux user :)
[11:06] <minimec> Minux: You have to use the user, you created during the ubuntu install.
[11:06] <sarmad> i have a problem can any one help me..? lua kit crashes in ubuntu 13.04 after some time.
[11:07] <Minux> yea but when i put my user it told me something wrong with user or password
[11:08] <minimec> Minux: My first check in that case is always 'caps lock' Is it activated? Wsa it activated, when you set the password?
[11:08] <Minux> no it was small letter
[11:09] <curatrix> Minux: You can check the username by looking in the /home directory.  There will be a directory with the same name as the username
[11:09] <minimec> Minux: Ok. What you can do is to boot in 'recovery mode', drop to a root shell and create a new user or change the password for the existing user. Did you encrypt youd harddrive or the user data partition?
[11:09] <Minux> so where is the home directory ??
[11:10] <curatrix> Minux: Can you open a file manager
[11:10] <Minux> i installed my linux from windows 7
[11:10] <Minux> yes i can open file manager
[11:11] <curatrix> Minux: You should be able to see the /home directory from the root directory   eg   /
[11:12] <Minux> yea now i can see the home directory
[11:12] <kubanc> i mountet two same folders in /media. how do i remove one of them?
[11:12] <curatrix> can you open it and see inside
[11:13] <Minux> no just see the folders and it's empty
[11:13] <curatrix> if you have only one user on your system, it should only have one directory in /home
[11:14] <curatrix> Minux: Are you using the live ubuntu?
[11:14] <Minux> yes
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> ah
[11:14]  * curatrix chuckles
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Minux  from there, you can install, create a user etc
[11:15] <curatrix> Minux: Nothing has been installed. You would have to physically install ubuntu to the hard disk. At the moment you are using the RAM as a virtual hard disk
[11:17] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:18] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[11:18] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[11:18] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[11:18] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[11:18] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:20] <LeDog> hello
[11:22] <zf> hello
[11:23] <VOILA> hello pc_magas I am back .. I ran my computer from pendrive .. then Ubet show me many options .. I tried all .. But during installtion it showed me 'Scanning compoents from CD/ROM'  then it is throwing error .. obviosuly i donot have anything in cd
[11:23] <VOILA> what do I do ?
[11:23] <pc_magas> It is alternate right?
[11:23] <pc_magas> try with normal
[11:24] <zf> i am noob for this program
[11:24] <VOILA> yes
[11:24] <pc_magas> Because I have experience with normal instalation from non alternate cd
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> zf  beginner, not noob or n00b -- what program do you mean?
[11:25] <VOILA> pc_magas,  But problem is .. it showed me "scanning instalation componenet from CDROm" .. but i donot have anything in cd
[11:25] <VOILA> Then I have to abort the installtion
[11:25] <pc_magas> VOILA do not abort it will scan and if it finds nothing it will continue
[11:26] <pc_magas> Let do the scan
[11:26]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[11:26] <pc_magas> And do not bother
[11:26] <VOILA> let me try again
[11:26] <VOILA> :)
[11:26] <BluesKaj> VOILA, do you have a USB boot capability in the bios ?
[11:26]  * HecticZA is back (gone 00:00:41)
[11:26] <pc_magas> I guess ot booted from USB
[11:26]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[11:27] <pc_magas> she/he booted from usb*
[11:27]  * HecticZA is back (gone 00:00:06)
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> !away | HecticZA
[11:27]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[11:29] <zf> leaving
[11:30] <KriShANsiN> when i shut down my comp, i got a message on balck screen "stopping system V unlevel compatability". any one know what this might mean ?
[11:34] <alocer> hi all . i need to copy everything between " ' " in text file somewhere else . i m not good at bash scripting so i need help :D
[11:34] <alocer> i even i dont know what to search for :D
[11:35] <k1l_> alocer: better try #bash
[11:35] <kaiomatico> I have a 1tb HDD where only 80gb of data is used...the rest is free space. how to tell dd_rescue to only backup this 80gb?
[11:35] <alocer> ty k1l_
[11:36] <krux> KriShANsiN, check see if your .xauthority file is not owned by root.. instead of the actual user
[11:37] <Enemtee> i have problems with getting dualscreens to work within ubuntu 12.04 with FGLRX-drivers activated. anyone who can help?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[11:50] <BAMbanda> I'm having a problem with sudo?
[11:51] <BAMbanda> x@x:~$ sudo apt-get install gimp
[11:51] <BAMbanda> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:51] <BAMbanda> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:51] <acerimmer> BAMbanda, probably you have your updates to automatically run.  apt is locked while that is in place.
[11:51] <DJones> BAMbanda: That suggest that you have another application using your package manager, do you have synaptic or software centre open
[11:51] <k1l_> BAMbanda: close all programs that want to access the repos. like updatemanager, synaptic, software,center etc
[11:52] <BAMbanda> Oh yeah, I ran auto updates, how do I check on that status? Its not in my launcher anymore
[11:53] <acerimmer> BAMbanda, system>settings>update manager
, thanks
[11:54] <acerimmer> BAMbanda, no problem.
[11:56] <Prolac> hello, what is the proper way to disable services from starting on boot, in ubuntu 12.04? without uninstalling them
[11:57] <__agon__> Prolac, man update-rc.d
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | bambanda
[11:59] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip, your the man
[11:59] <BAMbanda> you helped me last time too! I've grown fond of your assitance :)
[12:01] <Prolac> __agon__, is there an app (like sysv-rc-conf) which works with 12.04 and its new upstart?
[12:01] <NSA-Bot> I spy with my little PRISM (NOW in UK GCHQ Flavor)
[12:02] <__agon__> Prolac, what is wrong with update-rc.d? I know that there is bum with a cli interface, but I have not used that. Maybe, you should give it a look
[12:02] <__agon__> at
[12:03] <Prolac> alright, thanks
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> bambanda: when you've used the OS long enough you get good at that stuff
[12:05] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip, yeah man Linux definitely gives some insight into the file structure and computer architecture that other OS's don't provide as easily
[12:06] <contrapunctus> NSA-Bot - LOL
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> bambanda: depends how you use your OSes ;-)
[12:07] <NSA-Bot> contrapunctus last time i did that i got kicked lol
[12:08] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip, what do you think of Windows CLI?
[12:08] <shirtlifter> :)
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> bambanda: not used core much. i use a lot of powershell at work though
[12:09] <contrapunctus> NSA-Bot - Try this in ##hardware lmao
[12:09] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip, does cygwin and powershell basically provide a different interface to navigate the filestystem? but essentially achieve the same purpose?
[12:10] <Ben64> NSA-Bot: just stop, nobody cares and its offtopic here
[12:10] <shirtlifter>  /join ##hardware
[12:11] <shirtlifter> opps
[12:11] <contrapunctus> ^Beauty.
[12:11] <shirtlifter> lifted me shirt up to high on that one
[12:11] <shirtlifter> pmsl
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> bambanda: not used cygwin. powershell just gives an easy way to access systems, its like bash and ssh in some ways
[12:16] <ofhs> is there any way to get a USB microphone to work if there's no linux drivers for it?
[12:16] <Guest56915> !list
[12:19] <liquidmetal> is there a way to compile a header and just 'resolve' all macros?
[12:19] <acerimmer> !nick
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !register
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> liquidmetal: try in #linux too
[12:28] <serenoa> having problems with unity dash, taking ~30-45seconds to open, suspect due to specific lens, any way i can disable individual lenses without uninstalling app itself? [can't find active 'lens toggle' repo anywhere]
[12:29] <cfhowlett> ofhs, professional recording?  Get an interface.  The presonus one box reads linux/ubuntu with no problem.  Also, a usb mic is likely pretty low end on the sound spectrum.  The Presonus 1 Box is a recording kit with interface, OK headphones and decent entry-level mic.
[12:31] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: I think ofhs probably pinged out before seeing that, oh well
[12:32] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: one of the big problems is that stuff just says "Mac and Windows Compatible" on the box, but doesn't mention Linux
[12:32] <gordonjcp> if it's class-compliant, it'll work
[12:32] <gordonjcp> also, MOTU are evil
[12:32] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, indeed.  I did a youtube tutorial and mentioned that point.  We can only hope that one day OEM's get a linux clue.
[12:33] <FlowRiser> Hey guys, i have a small question: Where is the best place to ask for screenlets dev advice ?
[12:33] <rizz__> Hello. I noticed that 'dhclient' is listening for connections on my machine. Can I remove it or is it vital to the system? My router handles DHCP for me, but maybe I need the software anyway?
[12:35] <ofhs> Can someone help with some mic driver problems?
[12:35] <serenoa> pretty sure this dodgy lens was installed by everpad, despite disabling 'search on the home lens' results are still appearing, can i disable/toggle the lens without removing the whole program? thanks
[12:35] <bekks> rizz__: without dhclient, you wont get a DHCP IP.
[12:37] <rizz__> bekks: ok thanks i'll keep it enabled then. does it need to listen for connections or can I firewall it on my machine? i dont like open ports
[12:37] <bekks> rizz__: You need it to be open - otherwise you wont get a DHCP IP.
[12:37] <milaki> How can I get a xorg.conf file that corresponds to the configuration of X when its run without one?
[12:37] <milaki> X -configure does not produce this xorg.conf
[12:38] <bonhoeffer> does ubuntu read hfs+ easily?
[12:38] <auronandace> !hfs | bonhoeffer
[12:38] <gordonjcp> bonhoeffer: yes
[12:38] <FlowRiser> !screenlets
[12:38] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:39] <serenoa> seems the only way to fix this is with python-lenstoggler but the repo is down
[12:39] <bekks> serenoa: Just uninstall the lenses you dont like.
[12:40] <serenoa> bekks: how do i do that without removing everpad itself?
[12:40] <bekks> serenoa: everpad?
[12:40] <bekks> serenoa: I thought you were talking about unity.
[12:40] <serenoa> the app that installed the lens
[12:41] <gordonjcp> rizz__: leave dhclient alone, unless you like all manner of weird network problems
[12:41] <bipul> Hello My Audio input of mic is not working, I can't able to record my own voice via mic.
[12:42] <gordonjcp> rizz__: also, forget about "open ports", if you're behind a NAT router
[12:42] <gordonjcp> rizz__: they don't matter
[12:42] <serenoa> bekks: i thought you couldn't uninstall or disable individual unity lenses without lens toggler
[12:43] <serenoa> bekks: is that true?
[12:43] <rizz__> gordonjcp: thats true with the NAT firewall, but when I'm at school? but i guess the dhclient aren't very likely to be exploitable?
[12:43] <gordonjcp> rizz__: none of it is
[12:43] <rizz__> okey great, thank you both
[12:43] <gordonjcp> rizz__: when you're at school, how do you plan to get a network connection?
[12:44] <bekks> serenoa: Uninstall the lenses you dont want. And everpad doesnt even have a lens as dependency, I just checked that.
[12:44] <rizz__> gordonjcp: ye thats true
[12:44] <serenoa> bekks: how do you uninstall lenses?
[12:45] <bekks> serenoa: sudo dpkg -l unity-lens*   and then just uninstall the package you dont want.
[12:45] <bipul> Hello I am using Ubuntu12.04, and i have a problem with Mic, as my Audio input is not working at all, i can not able to record my voice through mic, when ever i am trying to run Desktop recoder, i am not getting any settings to fixe my Audio input. Please help.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !patience|bipul,
[12:45] <serenoa> bekks: oh okay thanks
[12:47] <nnrr> i set very brightness using setpci. it works fine while on ac power. but on battery, brightness keeps resetting. any idea how to prevent it?
[12:48] <bekks> serenoa: everpad is painfully slow. Just use the website login, which is more fast and more convinient.
[12:48] <bekks> serenoa: And in everpad, go into the settings and disable "search on the home lens".
[12:49] <serenoa> bekks: i disabled that already, however it's still being included in search results, and i can't see the lens package listed like you said
[12:49] <nnrr> i set very low brightness using setpci. it works fine while on ac power. but on battery, brightness keeps resetting. any idea how to prevent it?
[12:50] <bekks> serenoa: Because the "home lens" basically is just "search in your home folder".
[12:52] <serenoa> bekks: so since the package isn't listed, how do i uninstall it?
[12:52] <bekks> serenoa: You cant uninstall the functionality to search in your home folder.
[12:52] <djono> is there a learning curve coming from fedora to ubuntu ??
[12:52] <bekks> djono: Sure.
[12:53] <cfhowlett> djono, of course.  just like any change ...
[12:53] <djono> is it really big??
[12:53] <serenoa> bekks: all i want to disable is everpad results in unity search
[12:53] <cfhowlett> djono, no it's exacly 3.14 inches
[12:53] <serenoa> bekks: are you saying that can't be done without removing everpad?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> djono, "big" "small" are subjective terms.
[12:54] <djono> well seems like ubuntu and its variants are becoming increasingly popular even new distros would be based on them. Fedora to me is waning in popularity and support
[12:55] <bekks> serenoa: I say: It cant be done without removing unity.
[12:56] <djono> are they pretty much the same?
[12:57] <bekks> djono: Fedora is RHEL based, Ubuntu is debian-based. Pretty much everything in terms of configuration is different.
[12:57] <auronandace> djono: if you use the same desktop environment as on fedora then you'll not notice much of a difference at all
[12:58] <serenoa> bekks: right that's what i thought, the only other solution seemed to be python-lenstoggler if the repo was active
[12:58] <serenoa> bekks: thanks anyway
[12:58] <bekks> serenoa: the "home lens" isnt a separate lens. Its a basic functionality of Unity. You cant toggle it.
[12:58] <djono> Everytime i go to a website for some programs. IF they have a linux section its always debian ubumtu or seldom fedora. also are all DE available for every distro?
[12:59] <serenoa> bekks: i don't know what home lens is, all i know is it takes almost a minute to open the unity search panel, probably because it's looking through my whole everpad index
[12:59] <serenoa> bekks: i just want to toggle everpad search results in the hope it will fix that lag
[12:59] <auronandace> djono: in any distro you use you really ought to stick to the default  repos rather than install things from websites
[12:59] <cfhowlett> djono, let's say most.  I don't even know what "all" the DE's are.
[13:00] <cfhowlett> djono, auronandace is spot on.  Installing stuff from random sites is the linux equivalent of unprotected sex.
[13:01] <acovrig> I want to use python with apache but need to be able to run a specific file as root, the closest thing I came up with is visudo ->NOPASSWD:<path to python file> and having PHP do a shell_exec(sudo <path to file>) is there a better way of doing this?
[13:01] <djono> so lets say the say site doesn't have a certain distro listed. there could possibly be a version in the non listed distros repo?
[13:02] <auronandace> djono: you should check the repos first before you look at any site
[13:02] <cfhowlett> djono, possibly.  or compile from source.
[13:02] <DJones> djono: If you can't find an application you need in the repo's, you can look at ppa's or as a last resort compile from source
[13:02] <auronandace> djono: anything you install from outside the repos will get no support here
[13:03] <djono> buddy of mine uses ubuntu and he has lxde. his wife uses for the gui cause she is not as technical as him and he prefers lxde. I rhought that was cool cause it seems like its fresh always
[13:06] <djono> is unity available on fedora? sorry for asking in ubuntu
[13:07] <auronandace> djono: ask in fedora
[13:07] <cfhowlett> djono, ask fedora
[13:08] <djono> see thats what i mean. the ubuntu community is bigger hehe. didnt know there is a fedora channel
[13:08] <cfhowlett> djono, #fedora if I'm not mistaken
[13:10] <djono> i have to register a nick for that channel. u know because of that im hittin the install ubuntu button now
[13:11] <nuk3> hi.
[13:11] <nuk3> Guys. How's the Closed Amd driver lately under linux? Can I use hybrid crossfire?
[13:11] <nuk3> dual graphics
[13:14] <dotcom> Hello there. I recently downloaded a scanned pdf about 10 MB long and opened it with Document Viewer in Ubuntu. It's taking long to load that file. The loading icon rotates for about 10 seconds when i jump to next page.
[13:15] <dotcom> Is there any other reader that can load scanned pdf files much faster?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dotcom, is this the only time you experience lag issues?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dotcom, you can get adobe reader from adobe
[13:15] <Guest77455> test
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Guest77455, we see you
[13:16] <Guest77455> where are ?
[13:16] <Guest77455> quit
[13:17] <dotcom> cfhowlett: No. On all other normal text pdfs "Document Viewer" works well. But on scanned pdfs it lags. I downloaded Adobe reader too, but problem still persists.
[13:18] <Guest3373> hello im trying to launch minecraft sp and when it loads it shows the black screen
[13:18] <linuxNooob> what is wrong with m fresh ubuntu 12.04 LTS install if on boot up (under ubuntu logo) is coming text waiting /tmp or its not found...something like that. i can skip it but it comes often
[13:18] <cfhowlett> dotcom, so it's not specific to reader.  and it's only SCANNED pdf's?  over my head to solve, but I suspect soeone knows.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> linuxNooob, no specific message, no specific help.  take notes next time you boot and ask again with actual details.
[13:20] <linuxNooob> ok i come back when i have exact message
[13:20] <linuxNooob> thank you
[13:20] <adamk_> Generally scanned PDFs contain no text, each page is just one large embedded image.  It's not surprising that would take longer to open than a page with text...
[13:20] <Guest3373> hello
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Guest3373, greetings
[13:21] <cfhowlett> adamk_, yeah, but he stated the image size only 10 mb.  seems a bit small to be causing lag ...
[13:21] <Guest3373> im trying to launch minecraft and when it starts up it shows a black screen
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest3373,
[13:22] <Guest3373> i ment when i launch it it starts loading and it shows a blank black screen
[13:23] <adamk_> cfhowlett: The file size doesn't really matter much.  The resolution of the images is going to be the issue.
[13:23] <alexlexer> ..hellow
[13:25] <cfhowlett> adamk_, I assumed ram and gpu would be the limiting factors...
[13:25] <cfhowlett> alexlexer, greetings
[13:26] <dotcom> cfhowlett: Very likely. I was thinking that is there any tweak or something that "Document Viewer" uses more computer resources for some time for time.
[13:26] <dotcom> adamk_: Yes. The resolutions of images is high in that pdf file.
[13:27] <dotcom> And my computer specs are also quite low
[13:27]  * cfhowlett quotes South Park: I learned something today!
[13:27] <adamk_> I'd guess the RAM has more bearing than the GPU. It's probably just trying to load those images into memory...
[13:33] <dotcom> I have 2 Ghz processor and 2 GB ram. Is it enough?
[13:34] <dotcom> I have noticed that my computer is also running somwhat slow in summer.
[13:34] <adamk_> Can you send the PDF to someone with a faster computer and see if they have the same problem?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> dotcom, it's enough to run ubuntu.  more demanding tasks (graphics) put additional load on the system.  But only 2 gigs of ram?  and ram is the EASIEST component to upgrade.  Do your research
[13:36] <cfhowlett> dotcom, alternatively, consider a lighter weight option: xubuntu and lubunt are optimized for lower/older spec machines.  I've got ubuntustudio, i.e xubuntu + goodies on my 2009 laptop.  I've experienced no noticeable issues
[13:36] <islandmonkey> Hello, I was doing some (failed) MIDI recording earlier through JACK. Unfortunately, it now seems that Ubuntu only wants to run audio through JACK, as playing an audio file through Audacity with ALSA being used results in silence. How can I get Ubuntu back to using ALSA for audio?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> islandmonkey, nice one!  if no response here, ask in #ubuntustudio ... we get jack headaches ALL the time.
[13:38] <raven_> hi
[13:38] <raven_> my rme digi9652 is locked by anything on every startup - how to unlock it to use it with jack
[13:39] <islandmonkey> OK sure - I'll go to #ubuntustudio
[13:41] <dotcom> ty
[13:41] <jeevanus> hai, im using MTS USB modem, I have made all essential configurations in Mobile Broadband, it connected few hours ago, but not connecting now. It is working in a windows systesm, frm which im chatting, can some one help me?
[13:44] <jeevanus> hai, im using MTS USB modem, I have made all essential configurations in Mobile Broadband, it connected few hours ago, but not connecting now. It is working in a windows system, frm which im chatting, can some one help me?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !patience|jeevanus,
[13:45] <PeterGriffin> Does anybody know a decent IRC server/room for hardware (laptop) problems?
[13:45] <auronandace> PeterGriffin: try ##hardware
[13:46] <raven_> how to get wget to search only recursively on LOWER dirs?
[13:48] <raven_> my rme digi9652 is locked by anything on every startup - how to unlock it to use it with jack
[13:49] <colbabomb> hello, i have lubuntu, with GNOME, LXDE, Unity, Cinnamon DE's how do i get the zorin-os look on my machine without installing zorin-os over lubuntu, just want as a seperate DE
[13:50] <auronandace> colbabomb: it isn't supported here
[13:51] <colbabomb> auronandace: so there is a seperate lubuntu channel
[13:51] <nakanut> Which is the best tablet on the market Samsung/Nexus/Asus??
[13:52] <auronandace> colbabomb: yes but zorin isn't supported there either
[13:52] <k1l_> nakanut: that is a topic for the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[13:52] <colbabomb> i just want the look not the os, like a installable deb package
[13:53] <auronandace> colbabomb: if it isn't in the repo then it isn't supported here, it really is that simple
[13:53] <bipul> Hello I am using Ubuntu12.04, and i have a problem with Mic, as my Audio input is not working at all, i can not able to record my voice through mic, when ever i am trying to run Desktop recoder, i am not getting any settings to fixe my Audio input. Please help.
[13:54] <foobArrr> I'm lost in ccsm. where do I find the setting for what a double click on the title bar does?
[13:54] <colbabomb> alright i'll try to find in the repos, if not i'm going to zorin-os next version or remove windows and dual-boot with Lubuntu
[13:56] <foobArrr> never mind
[13:57] <Kai_p_IE> i seem to keep geting the on screen keyboard as i wake the pc to unlock from screensaver i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:59] <adamk_> foobArrr: It's not in ccsm.
[14:00] <mc__> Salut
[14:00] <adamk_> foobArrr: Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly where it is.. In the days of emerald, it was in emerald-theme-manager.
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !it|mc__,
[14:02] <joanna> hallo?
[14:02] <Kai_p_IE> i seem to keep geting the on screen keyboard as i wake the pc to unlock from screensaver (have no need for it!) i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:02] <Kai_p_IE> joanna sup?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> joanna, greetings
[14:03] <joanna> hi why my ubunt can`t upgrade to new version? got10.10 alredy
[14:04] <cfhowlett> joanna, 10.10 is dead.  end of life.  not supported.  download the new ubuntu with torrent, make a usb/cdrom, boot and install
[14:04] <islandmonkey> joanna: Because 10.10 is WAY out of date.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !eol|joanna,
[14:05] <joanna> is new version i worth install?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> joanna, are you comfortable running and unsupported version?
[14:05] <jrib> joanna: well 10.10 should not be used.  It's not supported anymore
[14:06] <joanna> ok thanks but can anyone tell  me is new ubuntu good?
[14:06] <jrib> joanna: you should try it for yourself, your opinion is the one that matters.  There are lots of people using supported ubuntu versions...
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> joanna  if you like it, then it is good
[14:07] <joanna> thanks...how to install new version? sorry im new here...
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> joanna: a clean install will get you to the newer, supported releases sooner and easier. You can restore userdata from backup
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> joanna: same as the install of Maverick you did
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> joanna  download the iso, use unetbootin to create the live usb, restart from usb and off you go!
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> joanna: i recommend 12.04 as it is LTS so supported til April 2017
[14:10] <joanna> thanks a lot for advise
[14:10] <Kai_p_IE> i seem to keep geting the on screen keyboard as i wake the pc to unlock from screensaver (have no need for it!) i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:10] <foobArrr> adamk_: k, thank you
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> kai_p_ie: do you have onboard or gok installed etc?
[14:12] <jxd> hello
[14:12] <Kai_p_IE> ActionParsnip, onboard
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> kai_p_ie: remove it if you dont need it, and it doesnt remove other crucial packages
[14:13] <Kai_p_IE> ActionParsnip, thank you sir
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> kai_pie: if you dont need it, get rid
[14:15] <novikH> a
[14:15] <novikH> a
[14:15] <novikH> a
[14:15] <FloodBot1> novikH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <Kai_p_IE> wow whats up with FloodBot1 that was quick
[14:17] <novikH> Kai_p_IE: I was showing some kids how does it work..:)
[14:17] <linuxthefish> help, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 and hibernate does not work!
[14:17] <linuxthefish> pm-hibernate commanf
[14:17] <linuxthefish> command*
[14:17] <Kai_p_IE> novikH, read my PM
[14:18] <sam113101> do you have swap?
[14:18] <linuxthefish> i think so
[14:19] <vasil4> Is there a way to boot from a CD to an Ubuntu on the HD?
[14:19] <k1l_> linuxthefish: hibernation and standby depend on the hardware and the drivers /modules used. so get the logs (dmesg and syslog) and look out what is going wrong there
[14:20] <raven_> vasil4, "chroot" - yes
[14:20] <kikkelikalle> HALUAN PILLUA
[14:20] <kikkelikalle> PILLUA NYT!
[14:21] <linuxthefish> but hibernate worked before clean install :S
[14:21] <zykotick9> vasil4: boot the cd then chroot to the HD install is probably closes you'd get... not quite the same as a "boot" though...  good luck.
[14:21] <kikkelikalle> TAI TULEN HYVIN HYVIN VIHAISEKSI
[14:21] <vasil4> raven_, ty
[14:21] <kikkelikalle> PILLUA HETI!!!!
[14:23] <zykotick9> vasil4: if you use encrypted HD, i have no idea...
[14:29] <vasil4> Is there a way to load the entire OS to ram and run it from there?
[14:30] <gordonjcp> vasil4: that's effectively what booting the USB stick does
[14:30] <gordonjcp> a whole bunch of important stuff is loaded to RAM
[14:30] <vasil4> gordonjcp, but can I unplug it and still use the pc?
[14:31] <overdub> no, running off a USB stick runs off the USB stick, there is a way to run completely from RAM
[14:31] <gordonjcp> vasil4: no
[14:31] <gordonjcp> because the apps are still loaded from the USB stick
[14:32]  * novikH Thanks Kai_p_IE :)
[14:32] <vasil4> overdub, how about copying the Live CD files to a virtual drive, then chroot to them?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> vasil4  what you describe is a live session
[14:32] <vasil4> MonkeyDust, so it's possible?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> vasil4  boot a live usb stick, but when you shutdown, everything you changed is lost
[14:34] <Kai_p_IE> novikH, Your Welcome
[14:34] <vasil4> MonkeyDust, there's no way to set the home folder to HD?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> vasil4  i think you're seeing it wrong
[14:39] <nakanut> Hi.  My login is no longer password protected [Ubuntu 13.04]
[14:39] <bekks> nakanut: So what did you do?
[14:39] <lifeforms> I'm considering using Ubuntu for a new box, but I want latest versions of some packages like PHP and ModSecurity. there seem no recent ppa's for ModSec. how do you guys deal with such a requirement? compile from source?
[14:39] <rich-> lifeforms: yes, compile
[14:40] <nakanut> I think it maybe to do with a recent install of screensaver
[14:40] <iceroot> lifeforms: never ever host a server and host php and mod-security from source
[14:40] <iceroot> lifeforms: 1. check if you really need the newest version of a software
[14:40] <iceroot> lifeforms: specially on servers
[14:41] <linuxthefish> how can i start the built in VNC server via SSH?
[14:42] <nakanut> On system settings it shows as protected, but I'm never asked for it either from user switching or from sleep mode
[14:42] <nakanut> weird
[14:42] <lifeforms> iceroot: true, well, ironically ModSec < latest right now has some vulnerabilities :(
[14:42] <linuxthefish> i think i need to login locally before i can VNC in, but i have no display attached to the cpomputer
[14:43] <lifeforms> I agree with php it's better to lag a little :)
[14:43] <rich-> linuxthefish: tried vncserver-x11?
[14:44] <linuxthefish> rich- idk which one it used, it's just the built in VNC server
[14:44] <linuxthefish> remote dettings thing
[14:44] <linuxthefish> settings*
[14:44] <dotcom> Hello there. I just downloaded a bunch of html pages. Now i want to convert and save them serial wise in a single pdf file. Is that possible in ubuntu?
[14:45] <curatrix> dotcom: Yes, use libre office
[14:46] <reisio> dotcom: why not stick with html
[14:46] <linuxthefish> how i get "** (vino-server:2185): WARNING **: Could not open X display"
[14:46] <linuxthefish> :S
[14:48] <phillustine> 157 sleeping tasks out a total of 159 tasks seems a little much, or is it normal?
[14:49] <pero_p> hi
[14:49] <dotcom> reisio: Because the number of html files are enormous.
[14:50] <reisio> dotcom: not sure how that is a factor
[14:50] <reisio> dotcom: there are a number of packages for what you want, though
[14:50] <reisio> dotcom: xhtml2pdf, wkhtmltopdf
[14:50] <reisio> you can merge PDFs simply with pdftk
[14:50] <reisio> what an awful format it is
[14:50] <dotcom> i see
[14:53] <dotcom> This is the website, http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda/rugveda.htm    If you look at bottom, you can navigate to other pages. All these pages are sequenced. I want to save all these pages on to my computer and convert it into a pdf file.
[14:53] <reisio> dotcom: why PDF?
[14:53] <reisio> dotcom: try using httrack
[14:53] <reisio> you could end up with a 1:1 copy
[14:54] <reisio> ew, it's just images
[14:54] <Brittany> Is there any way to execute a program through terminal without it halting the terminal tab for use of the program?
[14:54] <reisio> dotcom: what's the English name of this work?
[14:54] <Brittany> (just returning to command line after program has begun)
[14:54] <reisio> Brittany: nohup foo > /dev/null &
[14:55] <dotcom> reisio: It's RigVeda ( Hinduism religious text)
[14:55] <k1l_> Brittany: screen, nohup, disown,....
[14:55] <dotcom> Thanks. I will try httrack
[14:55] <dotcom> and see how it goes
[14:55] <zykotick9> Brittany: just "foo &" will work for most things (but you need to leave the terminal open) you might want to check out tmux/(gnu)screen for other things...
[14:55] <reisio> dotcom: sounds like the kind of thing you could get a free copy of, already in PDF (or at least in digital text, and not raster images)
[14:56] <Brittany> Thanks for the response guys.
[14:56] <FourFire> Hello, how do I change the order of installing of applications in Software center?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  by selecgting them in a different order
[14:57] <curatrix> dotcom: http://kickass.to/rigveda-hindu-holy-scriptures-t89794.html
[14:57] <FourFire> I have already selected them and one of them has (slowly) downloaded a lot of data
[14:58] <FourFire> is there any way to [pause] that download in favour of a smaller one which I want to use ASAP?
[14:58] <curatrix> FourFire: Only if you cancel the one that is running (not recommended)
[14:58] <FourFire> oh ok
[14:59] <FourFire> well I hope some really smart altruistic person is working on making that possible for a later version then...
[15:00] <curatrix> FourFire: Nope. it isn't wise to try and simultaneously install different packages
[15:01] <FourFire> ok that's interesting could you tell me vaguely why?
[15:01] <dotcom> reisio: Yes, i can. But all these are either English translated or not upto a particular format. But i want this in a particular format like Mantras written in Sanskrit followed by commentary in Hindi language distinguished by numbers and only that website has this.
[15:01] <bastidrazor> curatrix: it isn't possible to run multiple package managers at the same time
[15:02] <reisio> dotcom: I doubt that, but I can appreciate having only found it in the form of this website so far
[15:07] <Slart> dotcom: this one-liner should work.. I hope it doesn't download too much.. keep an eye on it   for n in {1..100}; do wget -p "http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda/p$n.htm"; done
[15:08] <Slart> dotcom: then when you have those you can always use one of the "images to pdf" tools that are available.. it should be as easy as pictures_to_pdf *.gif mypdf.pdf  or whatever the tool is called
[15:11] <dotcom> I am already doing this in httrack and noticed that these pages contain all images (GIF) and they are sequenced too like p1.gif, p2.gif,.............
[15:12] <Slart> dotcom: ah.. nevermind then
[15:13] <dotcom> So now all i need to do is let httrack to run until it downloads all of these gifs and then i can convert them into pdf easily.
[15:17] <zhangyuqing> hi
[15:20] <reisio> zhangyuqing: hi
[15:21] <k-stz> hi, my ubuntu loads a dangerous wlan driver (causes system crash), I have a better one, but how can I avoid that? Where is a list of drivers ubuntu tries or something like that
[15:22] <zhangyuqing> don't understand
[15:22] <reisio> blacklist
[15:23] <k-stz> reisio: ok i heard of that, but lspci shows a the a name rt2790 that doesn't exist in /proc/modules
[15:23] <zykotick9> k-stz: do you see the driver listed in "lsmod"?  if so as reisio suggested, use placklist
[15:23] <bmxscott1993> i'v finish my desktop how i what it with all the stuff on it and the layout how do i turn it into like then you use the dvd and put it in to install how do i turn my in to like that as an iso so i do not need to keep install every think to it there when i put the dvd in it install it all for me next time on a nother computer
[15:24] <k-stz> zykotick9: oh _lsmod_ is helpful, ok it shows a module I know exist
[15:27] <andresroldan> Hi everyone, I have an ATI HD 3100 video card, will this work with 13.04?
[15:35] <ThePendulum> Could someone assist me setting up Ubuntu as a VPN server?
[15:36] <reisio> #ubuntu-server
[15:36] <bekks> ThePendulum: Install and configure openvpn.
[15:36] <ThePendulum> I installed it, but I have no idea how to configure it or where to even find a configuration
[15:36] <bekks> !openvpn | ThePendulum
[15:37] <manoj_> i have new installed ubuntu 13.04.However unable to view battery status on top panel. Can anyone help?
[15:38] <krz> how does one start terminal on full width and height?
[15:38] <bekks> krz: Why?
[15:38] <krz> bekks: because
[15:38] <bekks> krz: Erm, misread you :)
[15:39] <krz> i use vim, tmux and other bg process' in the terminal
[15:39] <bekks> krz: I guess there are parameters for the terminal application to start in fullscreen.
[15:39] <krz> so id like to start the terminal in full width and height without having to click on any buttons
[15:39] <krz> bekks: not full screen. just full width and height
[15:40] <bekks> krz: the full width of - the screen?
[15:40] <bekks> krz: Still the answer stays the same.
[15:40] <zykotick9> krz: what terminal emulator are you using?  gnome-terminal, xterm, urxvt, etc?  look for options in whichever you use (or see if your window manager, has some "start fullscreen" option perhaps?)  good luck.
[15:40] <krz> bekks: yep
[15:40] <krz> zykotick9: gnome-terminal
[15:40] <holstein> krz: i usually just jab f11, for fullscreen.. but you can start them with arguments for size and position AFAIK
[15:40] <krz> holstein: i dotn want full screen
[15:41] <krz> i want full width and height
[15:41] <krz> you know the square icon on the menu bar
[15:41] <krz> i want the same effect
[15:41] <krz> without having to click on it
[15:41] <holstein> krz: correct.. that is my first statmement above, the option i do, that i was offering.. alternatively, you can start it with arguments
[15:41] <krz> square icon = maximize
[15:42] <holstein> krz: check the man page, and you should see what the size arguments are
[15:42] <zykotick9> krz: if you use tmux, that's gonna vary (making that difficult or impossible)... sorry, i mistook fullscreen origionally like veryone else ;
[15:43] <holstein> krz: this seems relevant, and should still be working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119271&page=3
[15:43] <krz> let me try a few things out
[15:43] <krz> brb
[15:43] <optikascidia> hi
[15:43] <optikascidia> ubuntu rules
[15:43] <wheatthin> krz, what window manager are you using?
[15:43] <optikascidia> grep -d
[15:44] <wheatthin> optikascidia, did you need help or something?
[15:44] <optikascidia> not at the moment
[15:44] <wheatthin> alrighty, if you don't need any, and just wanna make chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <optikascidia> k will do
[15:46] <syntroPi> where can i set the default browser in stupid gnome 3?
[15:47] <wheatthin> syntroPi, which browser you trying to set?
[15:47] <syntroPi> chromium-browser
[15:47] <wheatthin> in the chromium settings
[15:47] <wheatthin> at the bottom of the page
[15:48] <syntroPi> is that the one called when i open a link in xchat2 ?
[15:48] <syntroPi> there has to be a gnome 3 setting for that
[15:48] <holstein> syntroPi: you can try this command as well "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"
[15:48] <Laievskaia> Hi! I've installed ubuntu 13.04 but it doesn't work or IDK what is happen with that, cuz when y turn on my pc, the grub don't show me ubuntu to initializate >C sorry for my english
[15:49] <holstein> !nomodeset | Laievskaia
[15:49] <syntroPi> holstein, well hmm that does not change where xchat is opening its links
[15:49] <krz> whats the default terminal that comes with ubuntu?
[15:50] <krz> gnome-terminal?
[15:50] <wheatthin> yup
[15:50] <holstein> syntroPi: is the problem with the system default? or with xchat not using the system default?
[15:50] <krz> ok i managed to figure out how to start terminal maximized. gnome-terminal --window --maximize. but where can i put this, so it actually executes when i open up terminal?
[15:51] <syntroPi> holstein, good question
[15:51] <holstein> krz: you can make a new shortcut.. or you can edit the one that doesnt have that argument
[15:51] <jrib> krz: you can modify the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ or copy that file to ~/.local/share/applications and modify it there or you can avoid this and just use something like devilspie
[15:52] <wheatthin> hrz, no need to do that, you can set the default width and height in the profiles section under edit
[15:52] <syntroPi> holstein, the problem seems to be that gnome3 wouldnt honour  "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"
[15:52] <zykotick9> syntroPi: i've run into similar issues in the past - you might want to try checking the values of "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" AND the gnome-related one!  (i don't have gnome installed right now so i can't check it's name, but try "sudo update-alternatives --config <TAB><TAB>" and i hope you see a list!  look for something like gnome-www-browser or somthing.  make sure both are set to what you want your default browser to b
[15:52] <holstein> syntroPi: so, *all* of the applications in gnome 3 are not using what you chose?
[15:53] <syntroPi> yes
[15:53] <Laievskaia> well, i'll try that
[15:53] <krz> wheatthin: default size is 1024 x 1024 only?
[15:53] <holstein> syntroPi: i think there are gnome support channels.. have you tried there?
[15:53] <syntroPi> holstein, i remember in gnome 2 there was a default applications setting but i cant find it in stupid gnome 3
[15:54] <wheatthin> krz, just set it by rows and columns
[15:54] <holstein> syntroPi: i read that its in "system information"
[15:54] <wheatthin> until it fits your screen
[15:56] <syntroPi> holstein, aah there we go, thanks a lot. gnome 3 sometimes makes me want to bang my head to the wall LoL
[15:56] <wheatthin> syntroPi, it's just different :)
[15:58] <wheatthin> syntroPi, there's also a way to set some things up with gnome-tweak-tool, if you haven't discovered it yet
[15:59] <Laievskaia> how to update grub on my installation from live cd_
[15:59] <Laievskaia> ?
[15:59] <wheatthin> !grub | Laievskaia
[15:59] <syntroPi> wheatthin, yeah first thing i installed. just cant wrap my head around gnome 3 ui design "logic" sometimes.
[16:00] <Laievskaia> i'will use sudo update-grub but it will update live cd grub it is not_
[16:00] <Laievskaia> ?
[16:01] <k1l_> Laievskaia: you need to chroot into the installes ubuntu first
[16:01] <Laievskaia> how to ? kill
[16:01] <syntroPi> zykotick9, thanks indeed there is a "sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser"
[16:01] <wooy> Hi, I got 12.04 live cd running. How can i open terminal?
[16:01] <Laievskaia> ctrl + t
[16:02] <Laievskaia> ctrl + alt + t sorry
[16:02] <KriShANsiN> hey is there a way to share a live capture file with someone using paste bin? i installed wireshark and caught some unusual suspicious activity on my eth0 but i dont know how to save it in a viewable format. i did save a capture but when i went to view it it was unviewable.?
[16:02] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, http://ubuntunigeria.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/how-to-restore-grub2-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd-or-thumb-drive/      see if that helps
[16:02] <k1l_> Laievskaia: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/  like this one
[16:02] <wooy> Laievskaia: nice one, thx.
[16:02] <holstein> Laievskaia: there is boot repair here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:03] <Laievskaia> Thanks!!
[16:09] <KriShANsiN> can we post screen shots in paste bin?
[16:10] <Nach0z> KriShANsiN: don't think that's possible. try snag.gy instead.
[16:10] <bastidrazor> !screenshots
[16:11] <Nach0z> ehhhh. imagebin meh. snag.gy +1.
[16:11] <wheatthin> lol it's all about personal preferences
[16:12] <Nach0z> well, imagebin requires you to save your screenshot to a file and upload it
[16:12] <zykotick9> syntroPi: glad to help
[16:12] <Nach0z> snag.gy just lets you printscreen and ctrl+v the image. especially useful in windows
[16:13] <wheatthin> Nach0z, but this is ubuntu :)
[16:13] <Laievskaia> :/
[16:13] <Laievskaia> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be mount: mount point /mnt/media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be does not exist
[16:14] <Nach0z> I don't use printscreen often, I don't remember if it saves to a file or just puts it on the clipboard >___>
[16:14] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, so create a directory
[16:14] <wheatthin> to mount it to
[16:14] <KriShANsiN> oh wow image bin is not working? what am i doing wrong?
[16:15] <Laievskaia> but the directory is not my ubuntu installation?
[16:16] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, it'll create a director in ram
[16:16] <wheatthin> directory*
[16:16] <tjr9898> I'm on 12.04 and was trying to do add an external monitor with xorg
[16:16] <tjr9898> I want to stop that
[16:16] <tjr9898> and just used how Ubuntu was working by default
[16:17] <tjr9898> Any guidance
[16:18] <tjr9898> The fly-out next to the Dash button has like a different mesh type background
[16:18] <wheatthin> KriShANsiN, printscreen actually puts the image to your ~/Pictures   folder
[16:18] <tjr9898> There is a grey screen that display during boo
[16:18] <tjr9898> boot
[16:19] <wheatthin> tjr9898, on the second monitor?
[16:19] <tjr9898> No I unplugged the second montor
[16:19] <tjr9898> This is just for my default laptop setup
[16:20] <wheatthin> tjr9898, you can try  X -reconfigure
[16:20] <Lightz> hi. the command "locate" does not give exact results of what i am searching. for example: "locate 1 " will bring all files, that got a 1 in the name. how can i fix this? thanks.
[16:20] <wheatthin> Lightz, did you try sudo updatedb first?
[16:21] <tjr9898> wheatthin, says -reconfigure is unrecongized
[16:22] <wheatthin> tjr9898, might need to add a second -
[16:22] <Laievskaia> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/sda2/point’: No such file or directory :C i'll cry
[16:22] <mohtaw> hello
[16:23] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, /dev/sda2
[16:23] <wheatthin> point
[16:23] <KriShANsiN> oh man how do i delete a folder that i created from my file system?
[16:23] <wheatthin> /dev/sda2/ponit
[16:23] <ben__> hey, is this where i could ask a question about modules, or would that be a different channel?
[16:24] <wheatthin> KriShANsiN, rm -f
[16:24] <Laievskaia> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/dev/sda2/point’: Not a directory
[16:24] <wheatthin> err
[16:24] <Lightz> wheatthin: no. i try it
[16:24] <wheatthin> rm -r
[16:24] <wheatthin> I think
[16:24] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, /dev are devices like block devices
[16:25] <Laievskaia> syntroPi, what i have to do :C
[16:25] <wheatthin> syntax, sorry ;/ just woke up//
[16:25] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, mkdir /media/<username>/mountpoint
[16:26] <tjr9898> wheatthin, thanks but still not there
[16:26] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, "ls -l /dev/sda2" will list it with "brw-rw----" right?
[16:26] <ben__> Laievskaia - yes /dev stands for devices - those are things you mount to other locations -  you are trying to make a directory that would actually be a hard drive disk - and since that would not be just a directory, it will not be able to 'make' a hard drive
[16:26] <tjr9898> I was more  worried that there was some unity related thing I needed to check out
[16:26] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)
[16:26] <mohtaw> how i can activate the card
[16:26] <wheatthin> tjr9898,   sudo X -configure
[16:26] <mithran> hai my hp 1020 printer is not working in 13.04
[16:26] <j1h4d> hi all... i'm trying to install fusion-icon on ubuntu studio 13.04, when i run it, it's returning segmentation fault... i saw people saying that has a bug.. does someone knows something about it????
[16:26] <tjr9898> wheatthin, I did there was an error
[16:27] <Lightz> wheatthin: updatedb didnt fix it.
[16:27] <wheatthin> <-- is gonna stop now I'm too awake
[16:27] <wheatthin> Lightz, it should have updated fully and locate would find it
[16:27] <wheatthin> tjr9898,  which error?
[16:28] <Lightz> wheatthin: yes, im finding it. but also every other file with a 1 in the name, which are more than 1000
[16:28] <Laievskaia> im loosing my mind, i can't do it well
[16:28] <Laievskaia> losing
[16:28] <tjr9898> http://pastebin.com/aAVPQHmK
[16:28] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, what do you want to accomplish?
[16:28] <Lightz> wheatthin: thats why i only need files with the exact name "1"
[16:28] <tjr9898> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/aAVPQHmK
[16:28] <gmax88> salve
[16:29] <ben__> well   I have installed RocketRaid 262 drivers as a module on my 12.04 server  (If you ever get a raid/fakeraid/sata/esata card...  I highly recommend you stay away from highpoint....   as they like to think their products are compatible with linux, despite never updating drivers past a 2.something kernel
[16:29] <Laievskaia> SyntroPi, my grub and installation doesn't work... well i can see my ubuntu instalallation but it doesn't run at startup and grub doesn't show ubuntu
[16:29] <wheatthin> tjr9898, sudo service gdm stop, and then retry
[16:29] <mithran> how to solve printer issue regarding hp1020
[16:30] <wheatthin> Lightz, then I'd use the find command to get more specific
[16:30] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)   i need the instruction to activate the cards
[16:30] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)   i need the instruction to activate the cards
[16:30] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)   i need the instruction to activate the cards
[16:30] <FloodBot1> mohtaw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <tjr9898> saying gdm was an unrecongized service
[16:30] <ben__> anyways, when version 12.04-27 updated to something like 12.04-33  -  the module had disappeared...  can anyone help me try to figure out why a module would go missing because of an update???  I thought that was the reasoning behind it being a module... is that it will be included as the kernel updates
[16:30] <wheatthin> tjr9898, sudo killall X
[16:30] <gmax88> bhfhnrnrn4
[16:31] <mithran> it shows the print job has completed but nothing happened
[16:31] <__RC__> hi all
[16:31] <zykotick9> tjr9898: lightdm perhaps, or gdm3 if you're really using gdm
[16:31] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, idk what your problem with grub is exactly but "sudo update-grub" always fixed things for me. prior to that you can modify "/etc/default/grub" for settings maybe
[16:31] <tjr9898> If I'm on this same laptop would killall X, kill my GUI
[16:32] <wheatthin> tjr9898, what graphics card?
[16:32] <Laievskaia> yes, syntroPi, but if i do sudo update-grub it will update my LIVE CD GRUB?
[16:32] <Laievskaia> and i need update my installation grub D>
[16:33] <tjr9898> wheatthin, idk
[16:33] <syntroPi> aah you are on livecd... well maybe you need to do a chroot to your ubuntu installation then
[16:33] <Laievskaia> yes, i was trying to do that.. but i can't
[16:33] <syntroPi> why?
[16:33] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, why?
[16:34] <mithran> can you please help me in connection with configuring hp printer 1020 to ubuntu 13.04
[16:36] <Laievskaia> IDK, error about mkdir, let me tray again... just a sec :3
[16:36] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, where is your installation located?
[16:36] <ben__> tjr9898, i find when setting up new things (drivers... etc)... this is easier done through a shell rather than gui anyways - because of personal experience with some gui tools attempting to add something like a proprietary driver, and if the GUI tool is using commands that are out of date and not working, it can be hard to tell what the problem is...  and helps you learn small amounts about how the system works
[16:37] <Laievskaia> sd
[16:37] <Laievskaia> where /media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be
[16:37] <Laievskaia> x'de HDD
[16:37] <tjr9898> ben__, I'm with you on learning the system works
[16:37] <wheatthin> cd /media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be
[16:37] <tjr9898> I'm just learning about how GUI actually works
[16:38] <tjr9898> I've been focusing more on web servers
[16:38] <ben__> mithran, that sounds like it would be easy to find someone who has done what you are trying to do on askubuntu.com or the official wiki and forums through help.ubuntu.com -  that is if no one else is able to help you
[16:38] <KriShANsiN> um i think i am looking at netBios requests.
[16:38] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, then mkdir point (if that's what you want to call it)
[16:38] <wheatthin> but if chrooting
[16:39] <ben__> tjr9898- a GUI simply turns graphical buttons into what you would be typing in the shell
[16:39] <tjr9898> ben__, The good/bad thing is Ubuntu has became pretty plug and play for most things
[16:39] <wheatthin> follow the rest of the guide, by mounting proc and whatnot
[16:39] <Laievskaia> i think finally can xd
[16:39] <Laievskaia> root@ubuntu:/#  thats right?
[16:39] <ben__> tjr9898,  I understand what you mean by good/bad - especially since you are referring to installing a video card driver, correct??
[16:39] <KriShANsiN> http://imagebin.org/262184
[16:40] <KriShANsiN> what is this
[16:40] <tjr9898> external usb2vga adapter
[16:40] <wheatthin> yup sounds right.. were you able to mount the proc n stuff?
[16:40] <mithran> ben__: Thanks Ben i already tried and printer worked  after restarted it rollback to the same stage
[16:40] <tjr9898> ben__,  external usb2vga adapter
[16:41] <tjr9898> ben__,  now I've messed up how my regular vga external monitor works
[16:41] <ben__> tjr9898, ubtuntu and linux in general trys to keep things opensource, so it always tries to find a opensource driver to use - of course not all devices have an opensource driver.....  but it doesn't mean they aren't supported by linux
[16:41] <tjr9898> ben__, This is DisplayLink certified so I was getting the green screen that I need after a modprobe
[16:41] <KriShANsiN> http://imagebin.org/262186 help?
[16:42] <mithran> ben__: Thanks again  C U  Later
[16:42] <ben__> trj9898, my issue is regarding a module that i had to install
[16:42] <ben__> mirthran, glad it worked for ya
[16:43] <ben__> trj9898, i'm afraid i don't know what you mean by getting a green screen that you need after doing a modprobe.
[16:44] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, boot from usb stick into rescue shell, mount your ubuntu as root and chroot into that, start bash: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  ;  sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev ; sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc ; sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash ;  grub-install --force /dev/sda  ; exit ; reboot
[16:45] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, use whatever /dev/sd?? your ubuntu is installed onto
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> KriShANsiN  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> laievskaia: omgubuntu has a guide: sticking it to grub
[16:46] <ben__> trj9898, if you are using modprobe to turn on the adapter... you need to make the module permanent by adding the module name to the /etc/modules files
[16:46] <KriShANsiN> MonkeyDust: well, i am trying to figure out what this traffic is realted to on my UBUNTU operating system so yes.
[16:47] <wheatthin> KriShANsiN, is something broken?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> krishnasin: do you run an irc or ntp server?
[16:48] <KriShANsiN> MonkeyDust: my question is, what is this traffic going on because i am not doing anything but there is tons of network traffic, i posted the traffic screenshot there and was wondering what it was.
[16:48] <KriShANsiN> ActionParsnip: no i do not run any server
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> krishansin: is that what you see?
[16:49] <ben__> krishansin:   I don't see tons of network traffic.    I see communications with this IRC server, and basic requests from your ISP
[16:50] <flash> wza
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> KriShANsiN  i didnt see your question, probably missed it
[16:51] <KriShANsiN> ben__: are they netBios ? can i disable that traffic
[16:51] <ben__> krishansin,   even an idle computer often still has network activity going on, just very little,   you're looking at individual packets, one indicates an outgoing transmission or inbound query, the next usually is your computers response or the IRC server
[16:52] <KriShANsiN> ben__: oh really ? see i never knew that? but i did some research before asking in here and found netBios only as posssible explanation. it is good for me to know this and have learned how to not only get the live capture but to also upload it to here so you guys could see it, in fact that is a accomlishment in itself for me.
[16:52] <ben__> Krishansin:  which traffic exactly are you talking about?  the NET, TCP, IRC or IGMP ?
[16:53] <KriShANsiN> ben__: its all alien to me really sorry
[16:53] <DTomas> How to start screen saver from terminal in 12.04 (unity)?
[16:54] <DTomas> How to start screen saver from terminal in 12.04 (unity) or lock the screen in other way?
[16:54] <KriShANsiN> ben__: as long as its not hackers then i just dont care unless its to learn more interanl processes. so far it sounds innocent so its good.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> dtomas: which screevaver are using?
[16:55] <ben__> Krishansin: I see 111 bytes transfered... this is nothing more than basic communication between your computer and the router, your internet provider and your network, and your computer and this IRC server
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  http://askubuntu.com/questions/7776/how-do-i-lock-the-desktop-screen-via-command-line
[16:55] <KriShANsiN> ben__: well that is great news and i learned something new thank you
[16:56] <DTomas> MonkeyDust, but that one starts gnome screen saver I think unity uses other
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  unity is a gnome3 shell
[16:56] <ben__> krishansin, the only thing I don't know is what the blue NTP packets are - they appear to have to do with your router tough, as they go to ip 192.168.1.100, and the IGMP packet regarding joining V2 - which is also from the same ip address, which is typically a home router
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  command works here, just tried
[16:57] <wheatthin> MonkeyDust, unity isn't a gnome 3 shell.. gnome-shell is gnome 3 shell :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> dthomas: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7776/how-do-i-lock-the-desktop-screen-via-command-line
[16:58] <DTomas> MonkeyDust, but appearance is different (top bar) than that one used by unity
[16:58] <KriShANsiN> ben__: well the .100 concerns me that it may be one of my devices but i dont have open ssh installed on any of my devices so i dont know how they could be hacked.?
[16:58] <ben__> kirshansin,  despite not knowing exactly what they are, you're correct it is not anything to worry about - no hackers, and not enough data transfer for you to worry about it slowing down anything.  it just appears to be your internet service and router 'jibber jabbing' - at least thats the best analogy i can think of :)
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  i'm using unity, the command works here
[16:58] <DTomas> I'm very picky :/
[16:59] <KriShANsiN> ben__: very well thank you for taking the time to help out
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> dtomas: if you use ccsm to set a shortcut to run the command
[17:00] <ben__> krishansin: the .100 is likely your modem/router - and it is keeping the connection open with your internet service and forwarding the correct data to your computer...    there is nothing suspicious that would indicate a hacker is trying to get in, the commands are coming from the .100 ip address, and simple queries are the only thing going to it
[17:00] <ben__> no problem
[17:01] <KriShANsiN> ben__: sweet. man i learned alot today . gotta let the brain cool off. thanks again to all the helpful souls out there in Ubuntu land.
[17:01] <meLon> I'm having one hell of a time with pulseaudio.  Restarted a couple of nights ago and now the only thing that works is ALSA and I can only have one program using sound because of it.  pavucontrol never connects to pulse, although pulse is running.  I've tried killing and running as my user, but nothing seems to work.  Any suggestions?
[17:02] <DTomas> I just writing logon script to lock screen when I logon, so I can set my account to login automatically to start all programs/services
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  a bash script? if yes, better ask advice in #bash
[17:04] <ben__> wheatthin, you seem to know a bit more than i do, could you help me with module issue....   I finally modified a rr62x driver and installed it using dkms so that I wouldn't have to reinstall it....  but it disappeared during an update...   I reverted back to an older header....  it was like 12.04*-27 and the newest (at the time) was 12.04* -33, and that seemed to fix it.   so the rr62x driver shows up now when i do command "lsmod"
[17:04] <DTomas> MonkeyDust, well I only needed command to lock the screen, thanks
[17:05] <ben__> how can i make sure it will stay there through updates?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  did you try the command i suggested?
[17:06] <wheatthin> ben_ when doing kernel updates, it'll always overwrite things
[17:06] <DTomas> yes it works, but it just does not look like screensaver started automatically by unity
[17:07] <bekks> ben__: you cant.
[17:08] <ben__> whatthin, I thought that was the purpose of using DKMS to install a module instead of just manually installing the driver.... and these aren't updating from 12.04 to another version, it is just security and standard updates for 12.04 LTS - I guess thats what confuses me
[17:09] <OerHeks> ben__, if that update was a kernel you would need to compile again
[17:09] <wheatthin> benif it's outside a mainline module*, meaning if the kernel didn't come with the same module, then it'll allow you to update
[17:09] <wheatthin> otherwise it's overwritten
[17:10] <wheatthin> so best thing I can say, is backup your kernel module and replace it after the kernel updates
[17:12] <ben__> what does it mean when it says part of the DKMS file tells the program: "To automatically install the module into a new kernel on boot if the capability exists (this isn't necessary if you use Ubuntu's prebuilt packages to update your kernels, but it doesn't hurt)."
[17:13] <wheatthin> ben_ it just means it'll automatically load the module that isn't included with the new kernel
[17:17] <ben__> ok, I guess my problem is that it didn't load the module following one of the standard updates/security updates - it is set not to install any new kernels though.   Since I don't know why it disappeared (likely it threw an error regarding the module during the update but I don't monitor it often), it sounds like making a back up so it can be easily re-added would be best...
[17:18] <armin> are the ubuntu unity compiz plugins somewhere accessible via git?
[17:18] <wheatthin> armin, git isn't from the repo..
[17:19] <wheatthin> armin use apt-get
[17:19] <wheatthin> armin, to look for them use  sudo apt-cache search compiz
[17:19] <ben__>  it was a couple month ago I used the command line coding to install the module and configure the dkms file and add the module, but i don't recall all the commands...  can you point me in the right direction on how i'd make a back up of the module and  how i'd reinstall that back up if it 'disappears' again?
[17:19] <wheatthin> it'll tell you what's installable as far as compiz plugins
[17:21] <crond> This is bizzare, why on earth would I be unable to adjust my laptop backlight until after I've gone into and come out of sleep mode? I have an nvidia 660m w/ the nvidia driver.
[17:21] <wheatthin> ben_ check this out see if it pertains to you  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[17:22] <tjr9898> ls
[17:22] <ben__> the driver code had to be modified in a few areas just to run with kernel versions above 3.0 --- it worked fine, but high point was too lazy to add the newer kernel versions as valid ones in their code....  then it had to be added to modules, and create a new init so it'd load on boot, etc...   it'd be a lot easier to know how to back up an already installed module and use that, than it would be to attempt and reinstall the driver
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> tjr9898: That would be effective in a terminal, yes :)
[17:23] <ben__> wheatthin, that is how i installed the module...
[17:23] <tjr9898> wheatthin, ben__, Looks like I still had a conf file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d that was messing me up
[17:24] <tjr9898> SonikkuAmerica, I don't know how many times I typed ls in my web browser
[17:24] <wheatthin> tjr9898, that's why I was trying to have you generate a new xorg config file
[17:25] <tjr9898> right and it wouldn't let me because the old conf was still there that I thought I had deleted
[17:25] <wheatthin> tjr9898, ahh
[17:25] <tjr9898> Classic example of breathe and actually read the error messages and try to think logically
[17:26] <tjr9898> not OMG every change I do is making everything worse
[17:26] <tjr9898> Anyway, I'm at least where I was yesterday
[17:26] <tjr9898> Thanks all for your help
[17:26] <wheatthin> yup yw
[17:27] <ben__> wheatthin, rather than following 'typical makefile,    make install commands -   I used dkms - setting up the config file for it and everything, and got the module installed using dkms - which is why i didn't think it would go anywhere if I stuck with 12.04 LTS .....   at the bottom of the link you listed, the example given IS the instructions for installing the exact driver I'm mentioning (rr26x)
[17:28] <ben__> sorry that'd be rr62x
[17:29] <BlAdE2> How are supposed to be created the .efi files?
[17:29] <BlAdE2> by using efibootmgr or grug can make it ?
[17:29] <BlAdE2> grub*
[17:32] <ben__> and the kernel wasn't updated either, only regular updates are being installed - it is set to stay on 12.04 LTS....    but something else that was updated must have thrown an error when dkms or initrd attempted to start or add the module - I could no longer find it listed and revert back to a previous image (the only differences were -27, -28, -29, etc at the end of the version name.  I believe thats because they were just standard upda
[17:33] <divderdude> is there any way to install and run a simple msi file on ubuntu? its written for dotnet framework
[17:34] <wheatthin> ben_ update overwrite dkms config you edited/
[17:34] <ben__> so a standard update, perhaps to a code it uses (python or something else)  caused it to fail to load back into the kernel , and I couldn't find the module and didn't know how else to install it other than to try and revert to an image where it was still showing up with lsmod - or to install from scratch (which between the driver code modifications, and the DKMS configuration on top of that  - I really didn't want to do)...
[17:35] <adasz> Hello, my Operating System takes very long to boot. on the screen is the last point that i can see ' Starting Samba Winbind', in the /var/log/boot.log there is after 'Starting Samba Winbind' this point 'Stopping cold plug devices'. i think 'Stopping cold plug devices' is the reason why i takes so long to boot.
[17:35] <ben__> if I knew how to make a back up for a module... and could have used that to reinstall the module itself... that would be great
[17:35] <wheatthin> ben_ so instead of using dkms to try and upload it, why not install it without dkms and it'll stick.. at least until the next kernel update
[17:36] <wheatthin> by using sudo make install
[17:37] <compdoc> adasz, not sure what a cold plug device is, but you could go over your smb.conf and see how its configured
[17:38] <wheatthin> ben_ by adding it to /etc/modules to load automatically
[17:38] <ben__> well it is installed just as if I had don't makefile and make install -  the only difference is that dkms is supposed to store the location of the module and directions in case the kernel is updated so it will reload the module...   no kernel updates, so something else that was updated the module didn't like
[17:39] <ben__> if the module lists right now under lsmod, what location/file do i need to copy in order to be able to re-install it in the future?
[17:39] <ben__> I don't want to start from the beginning
[17:40] <adasz> compdoc, i can't se anything that is suspect http://pastie.org/8069936
[17:40] <ben__> the .ko .h -  several files had to be modified to tell the driver that it was ok to install if the linux version wasn't below 3.0
[17:41] <wheatthin> ben_ they'll be located somewhere in /usr/src
[17:41] <wheatthin> and whatever kernel is loaded,
[17:45] <Venks> test
[17:46] <wheatthin> ben__, you can use  locate <modulename> and it'll show you where it's installed
[17:46] <ben__> is it the ".ko" file i'd want to back up, and likely a copy of the /etc/modules file?   so I cld then just copy the .ko file to the kernel tree and update the initrd to re-add the module... at least then if it doesn't load I might be able to see an error indicating why?
[17:47] <wheatthin> yeah
[17:49] <ben__> wheatthin, ok thats a start i can copy the files from there into a module backup folder under my home directory
[17:54] <diverdude> hello. i have tried installing this program with wine: http://sssp.dtuaqua.dk/download.aspx But when i run the program it says missing parameter and it dont start. How can i run this program?
[17:56] <wheatthin> diverdude, you need the .net framework to run this... with wine, it's not default
[17:56] <reisio> you might actually see if mono can run it
[17:56] <diverdude> wheatthin, oh, how do i install that?
[17:56] <reisio> http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[17:56] <diverdude> reisio, yeah i thought about that, but mono dont install msi i think?
[17:57] <reisio> that's a separate problem :)
[17:58] <reisio> course cabextract just outputs nonsense :p
[17:59] <wheatthin> diverdude, install the .net framework
[17:59] <wheatthin> you find the download link, and execute it with wine
[18:00] <reisio> it's dotnet2 or something, via winetricks
[18:01] <grmcrkrs> anyone have any experience with #bridge-utils ?
[18:01] <reisio> grmcrkrs: probably someone has
[18:01] <microm> Is it reasonable to use Blender for 3D CAD (not 3D animation but 3D CAD)?
[18:02] <reisio> microm: it's not unreasonable, but there are probably more appropriate applications
[18:02] <grmcrkrs> I'm getting errors when trying to add the interface wlan0. I can add at0 to the bridge and also eth0 but not wlan0
[18:03] <reisio> BRL-CAD comes to mind; others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_computer-aided_design_software
[18:03] <microm> I am listening if you'd like to share practical experience this field... :-) I can google the rest
[18:03] <diverdude> reisio, hmmm when i do winetricks dotnet40 i get: "Same or higher version of .NET Framework 4 has already been installed on this computer."
[18:04] <reisio> diverdude: I'm not sure 4 does what 2 does
[18:04] <kostkon_> diverdude: yeah, latest versions of wine come with mono
[18:05] <diverdude> reisio, ah right....so its bcz that program requires dotnet2 and dotnet 4 is not  backward compatible?
[18:05] <reisio> that would be my first guess
[18:06] <diverdude> reisio, why does people write stuff in dotnet...its insane
[18:06] <wheatthin> that's microsoft for you.
[18:06] <reisio> "people" are young adults taking classes funded by Microsoft
[18:07] <diverdude> arrrg: dotnet2.0: "This product is not supported on a 64-bit operating system"!
[18:08] <reisio> diverdude: WINEARCH=win32 ./winetricks dotnet2
[18:08] <reisio> WINEARCH=win32 wine SPPPwtvr.msi
[18:08] <reisio> etc.
[18:08] <freshbone123> Why is it dangerous running GUI-Applications with sudo and not with gksudo?
[18:09] <flux242> diverdude: in what should people write stuff?
[18:09] <reisio> you mean gksu?
[18:09] <freshbone123> reisio, yes
[18:09] <diverdude> flux242, just write a homepage instead....desktop stuff is obsolete
[18:09] <reisio> su and sudo are actually different, can't speak for gksu
[18:10] <reisio> gksudo should be the samey, though
[18:10] <reisio> freshbone123: it's probably just that once you close the GUI app, you still potentially have a terminal with root privs available
[18:10] <reisio> but if you were that concerned with it, you wouldn't use Ubuntu style sudo anyways
[18:11] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I'm on U13.04 and java web apps seem to redirect me to java.com's download page. I have java installed already, though.
[18:11] <reisio> maybe they're quite poorly made Java™ apps
[18:11] <reisio> (as if there's any other kind!)
[18:11] <ben__> If I made a copy of the rr62x.ko file, and I know its location is lib/modules/*version*/kernel/drivers/scsi/rr62x/  ...  what would I need to do in order to reinstall that module?  would running the usual "make install" command from within the copied rr62x.ko file still work?
[18:11] <flux242> diverdude: cli is obsolete for 20 years but is still widely used especially on linux
[18:11] <reisio> or maybe you're just missing the browser plugin
[18:12] <IsmAvatar> reisio: that's what I figured, so I installed it from the Software Center, but it's still doing the same stuff.
[18:12] <diverdude> reisio,  wine: WINEARCH set to win32 but '/home/bdi/.wine' is a 64-bit installation.
[18:13] <reisio> diverdude: if there's nothing in ~/.wine you care about, just rm it
[18:13] <reisio> diverdude: otherwise mv it or
[18:13] <reisio> diverdude: use WINEPREFIX to make another one elsewhere
[18:14] <mojtaba> Hi,  I have a spreadsheet and in each cell there is a text with hyperlink, I want to just keep the hyperlink, not the text. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:14] <armin> any unity hackers in here? trying to find the corresponding .cpp files for the alt-tab switcher. any help?
[18:15] <IsmAvatar> java.com is unable to verify if java is currently installed, so it's not just the app, it's all apps.
[18:16] <diverdude> reisio, then i get wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\SPPPwtvr.msi"
[18:16] <reisio> mojtaba: export to CSV first
[18:17] <diverdude> reisio, i just did mv ~/.wine ~/.wine2
[18:17] <wheatthin> diverdude, you're using too many back slashes
[18:17] <reisio> diverdude: dunno, then, try #winehq
[18:17] <diverdude> wheaties, i am not using any backslash...its writing that by itself
[18:17] <diverdude> reisio, thats a dead channel
[18:17] <reisio> nah
[18:18] <mojtaba> reisio: What should I do after that?
[18:18] <diverdude> reisio, and if i do  WINEARCH=win32 wine ./SSSPv3_1.msi i get: wine: Bad EXE format for Z:\home\bdi\Downloads\SSSPv3_1.msi.
[18:19] <elisa87> do pastes in paste.ubuntu.com fade after a while?
[18:19] <wheatthin> elisa87, I believe so.
[18:20] <elisa87> Is there any other site like that which might have permanent paste? wheatthin
[18:20] <diverdude> reisio, what am I missing?
[18:21] <nintet> i just created a disk with Gparted, and when i mount it it is read only and i cant store files on it
[18:21] <mojtaba> reisio: It did not work, because it just send the text to the .csv file.
[18:22] <compdoc> nintet, how are you mounting it?
[18:22] <mojtaba> I just want to keep the hyperlink, not the text.
[18:22] <nintet> Xfce, from the desktop
[18:22] <nintet> with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:22] <wheatthin> elisa87,  http://pastebin.com/
[18:22] <compdoc> sounds like the folder youre mounting it in has no permissions
[18:22] <reisio> mojtaba: csv files are easier to process
[18:23] <wheatthin> if you go there, it has a setting for expirations
[18:23] <reisio> mojtaba: pastebin an example line from the csv
[18:23] <nintet> it has no permissions because it was created as root
[18:23] <reisio> nintet: that's what read only means
[18:23] <nintet> i am saying, i want to copy my stuff to it
[18:23] <compdoc> mount it yourself, in a folder youve created
[18:23] <nintet> can you give me an example please?
[18:24] <nintet> mounting is something i was never  very good at
[18:24] <mojtaba> reisio: I can handle the csv file, but the problem is that, those in the spreadsheet have hyperlink, which is different than the text, and when exporting to .csv file. It just export the text, not the hyperlink behind it.
[18:24] <mojtaba> for example, there is "email" text, which have the hyperlink "test@test.com"
[18:24] <reisio> mojtaba: pastebin an example line from the csv
[18:24] <reisio> mojtaba: 'email'?
[18:25] <prime_> hello friends
[18:25] <prime_> algum brasileiro on?
[18:25] <mojtaba> reisio: Yes, the hyperlink of the email is mailto:test@test.com, and when click on that, it just opens a new document to send email to it.
[18:25] <Brazuka> Galera, entrem na rede irc.anonnet.org no canal #Brasil, e encontrem outros brasileiros... Estou divulgando essa rede AnonNET, pois o canal Brasil nessa rede eh privado...
[18:25] <reisio> prime_: #ubuntu-br
[18:25] <AndroUser> Guys,  my usb keyboard is not being redetected after disconnecting it.  How do I force it without reboot?
[18:26] <reisio> mojtaba: pastebin an example line from the csv
[18:26] <Brazuka> Galera, entrem na rede irc.anonnet.org no canal #Brasil, e encontrem outros brasileiros... Estou divulgando essa rede AnonNET, pois o canal Brasil nessa rede eh privado...
[18:26] <Brazuka> nesse rede FREEnode o canal brasil eh privado
[18:26] <reisio> Brazuka: what, #ubuntu-br?
[18:27] <mojtaba> reisio: "Amirloo Abolfathi, Jeyran",,jamirloo,,E5-4119.2,,x31433,,1
[18:27] <mojtaba> "Azizi, Mostafa",,mazizi,,EIT-4118.2,,x37457,,1
[18:27] <mojtaba> "Munoz Guerrero, Juan Carlos",,jcmunozg,,EIT-4151.5,,x38036,,1
[18:27] <Brazuka> reisio i dont know
[18:27] <reisio> k...
[18:30] <Cristhian_Adan> tnks
[18:31] <mojtaba> reisio: Any idea?
[18:32] <reisio> mojtaba: about?
[18:32] <reisio> oh right
[18:32] <reisio> mojtaba: and what was the "link" for that example?
[18:33] <mojtaba> reisio: for example, when in spreadsheet, by keeping the mouse over "Jamirloo", it shows the hyperlink, "mailto: text@test.com"
[18:33] <reisio> mojtaba: literally text@test.com, or did you just make that up?
[18:33] <chamunks> Is there a dban style package for ubuntu I have about 200 drives that need to be securely wiped.
[18:33] <mojtaba> I just want to keep the text@test.com and remove the Jamirloo in this case.
[18:34] <mojtaba> reisio: literally
[18:34] <reisio> chamunks: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=1M (be careful)
[18:34] <chamunks> and anything other than a batch operation would be rediculous obviously.
[18:34] <reisio> chamunks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Disk_wipe
[18:34] <chamunks> reisio, thing is it has to be wiped with a certain standard a simple DD might be a bit less then specific.
[18:35] <Brazuka> Galera, entrem na rede irc.anonnet.org no canal #Brasil, e encontrem outros brasileiros... Estou divulgando essa rede AnonNET, pois o canal Brasil nessa FREEnode eh privado...
[18:35] <nintet> sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda3 /home/me/Public      and still no permissions to copy files
[18:35] <nintet> i dont understand
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: those standards are nonsense wastes of time
[18:35] <chamunks> theres a certain requirement which I cant recall at this specific moment.  its actually for my local computer recycling facility
[18:35] <paul_> hello canoniCAL))
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: they won't check
[18:35] <chamunks> reisio, yeah its just that the company that donated the hardware asked
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: they don't have the time to, and neither do you or anyone else sane
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: eh... and you can afford to spend the time?
[18:36] <chamunks> not necesserily
[18:36] <chamunks> but if its like I just turn it on and leave it for a week
[18:36] <reisio> chamunks: how big are the drives
[18:36] <reisio> yeah it could be a week for 200 drives :p
[18:36] <chamunks> just a couple of rackmounted SAN's with about 100 gigs on scsi drives.
[18:36] <AndroUser> Guys,  in 13.04 my usb keyboard is not being redetected after disconnecting it.  How do I force it without reboot?
[18:37] <chamunks> or like 160
[18:37] <paul_> 13.04 is full shit
[18:37] <chamunks> this place just recycles computers and sells them to less fortunate or older people
[18:37] <reisio> chamunks: figure out which standard it is they asked for
[18:37] <nintet> can anyone help me with a simple mount ? i forget the syntax
[18:37] <chamunks> basically families that dont care for raw compute power and just need online.
[18:37] <IdleOne> !language | paul_
[18:37] <chamunks> reisio, I think its like about 3 consecutive wipes at least.
[18:37] <paul_> but its true)
[18:38] <reisio> chamunks: what you should really do is double check with the company that they care if you do more than a single pass of zeros, based on the fact that there is no evidence anything more is useful at all
[18:38] <AndroUser> That remark isn't helping me,  Paul_
[18:38] <reisio> nintet: mount /dev/foo /mnt/point
[18:38] <chamunks> reisio, theres dev/null then theres dev/random or whatever yes?
[18:38] <nintet> i did that, still no permissions
[18:38] <reisio> chamunks: and urandom
[18:39] <mojtaba> reisio: any idea?
[18:39] <reisio> chamunks: the random ones take _much_ longer
[18:39] <AndroUser> So how do I force keyboard redetection? As a temp solution
[18:39] <paul_> 12.04 help you)
[18:39] <reisio> mojtaba: it's quite hard to believe text@test.com was generated by any other values from the lines you pasted
[18:39] <chamunks> reisio, technically if we just did a DD script via bash that would do a tripple pass a zero a random and a zero
[18:39] <reisio> mojtaba: so you're probably leaving something out
[18:39] <chamunks> that would technically destroy pretty much any hope in hell.
[18:40] <reisio> chamunks: just once with zeros will :p
[18:40] <reisio> unless they're SSDs
[18:40] <chamunks> reisio, thats what I said but according to the guy there thats not the case
[18:40] <spainvallecas> alguien de españa
[18:40] <reisio> then there's a potential for not 100% of everything to be lost
[18:40] <nintet> i dont understand this, i still do not have permissions to write files to my own disk!
[18:40] <reisio> chamunks: here at 'the company'?
[18:40] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I keep the hyperlink and remove the text from the spreadsheet?
[18:40] <reisio> chamunks: honestly, you'd save a lot of time by sitting him down and saying "dude... are you sure it's been proven this is worth spending the time on?"
[18:41] <chamunks> reisio, its a place called "The Working Center"
[18:41] <rafael_> Hello guys, I wonder if there is a terminal command to display information about a video file, eg width x height.
[18:41] <reisio> chamunks: the donater, or donateee?
[18:41] <reisio> rafael_: ffmpeg -i file
[18:41] <chamunks> the donater likely donated it knowing that they wont sell the drives without a wipe rather then sending it to a facility
[18:42] <reisio> rafael_: also midentify
[18:42] <reisio> rafael_: also ffprobe
[18:42] <reisio> chamunks: likely?
[18:42] <Infix> nintet: seeing as you use sudo to mount, I assume you haven't added the mount to your fstab file
[18:42] <paul_> i kill Mark Austronaut,now i sad
[18:42] <ubuntology> Hi everyone, I've installed ubuntu server on an old PC, and making it a local web server using nginx, and making some pages to control some stuff. My question is: is it possible to run a bash script on the server from a php script?
[18:42] <reisio> it's a huge waste of time for what sounds like some really vague requirements you're talking about
[18:42] <reisio> paul_: awe
[18:42] <chamunks> reisio, its not really my project i'm not heavily involved I just figured there had to be a better way and my curiosity forced me into this irc channel :P
[18:42] <reisio> ubuntology: course
[18:42] <nintet> Infix, i dont know that much about linux
[18:42] <reisio> chamunks: okay, so theoretically
[18:42] <rafael_> reisio: thank you
[18:42] <chamunks> I had a 2 minute conversation about the topic is all.
[18:43] <chamunks> im just fitting within the proposed constraints.
[18:43] <Infix> nintet: You must specify a UID and GID (user) when mounting manually
[18:43] <ubuntology> reisio: how exactly is that?
[18:43] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I keep the hyperlink and remove the text from the spreadsheet?
[18:43] <chamunks> it may/maynot be sane and I proposed the same questions you are but he protested so I wont argue.
[18:43] <ubuntology> reisio: and is it theoretically possible to invoke a shutdown -P now on the server command using a simple web page that is designed for that?
[18:43] <nintet> is there a way i can get it to just mount automatic on startup or something, i just want to backup files from other disks to it
[18:43] <reisio> ubuntology: ask #nginx
[18:44] <Kitt3n> How can I install the 13.6 graphics beta drivers from AMD without corrupting my desktop?
[18:44] <reisio> ubuntology: yes of course
[18:44] <reisio> ubuntology: combined with sudo
[18:44] <chamunks> disk wipes were proposed back when there was much lower data density on platters where a single wipe really wasnt that effective afaik idk.
[18:44] <reisio> ubuntology: or suexec, etc.
[18:44] <reisio> for example: http://cyrilmazur.com/2010/09/suexec-behaviour-with-nginx.html
[18:44] <Infix> nintet: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab for info on that
[18:45] <ubuntology> thanks a lot reisio, now I'm relaxed that it IS possible, its time for me to learn how. Thanks guys :)
[18:45] <mojtaba> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:45] <reisio> ubuntology: yeah, just details
[18:45] <reisio> ubuntology: I've only done that sort of thing with Apache so far, need to update my magicks
[18:45] <ripplebit> guys when i try to open a .sh file, (just by typing filename.sh), i get "comannd not found"
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: yeah, a long time ago
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: for executing it:  chmod +x  it, then  ./filename.sh
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: the dod standards seem not simple to find, though
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: to open, as in read it: just open it with a text editor
[18:46] <ripplebit> Fuchs: as in to run
[18:46] <chamunks> reisio, I just figure dban may take a century or be incompatible.
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: in order to be able to run commands by just typing the name, they have to be in a folder defined in the $PATH variable  (echo $PATH)
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: I'm assuming three wipes with random data will satisfy any 3-pass requirement fully, however
[18:46] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: chmod +x filename.sh;  ./filename.sh     (when you are in the directory containing that file)
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: it'll probably work, but it's going to be a huge waste of time
[18:47] <Fuchs> ripplebit: only run things you trust
[18:47] <chamunks> reisio, i agree.
[18:47] <reisio> mojtaba: you haven't given enough information
[18:47] <ripplebit> Fuchs: it's the racket download. do i need to move it to a dir in $PATH?
[18:47] <mojtaba> reisio: what about http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:47] <Fuchs> ripplebit: I don't know what that is, but probably you can run it from anywhere with  ./filename.sh
[18:47] <chamunks> reisio, although apparently CSIS pulled a bunch of drives from a dumpster that were drillpressed and reconstructed all data.
[18:48] <reisio> chamunks: sometimes I myself say "okay they asked for FOO, and that's stupid but they asked for it so I'm going to do it"
[18:48] <ubuntology> تحياتي مجتبى
[18:48] <reisio> but realistically, it's better to educate them and not waste your own time
[18:48] <Fuchs> ripplebit: I assume it has a README, INSTALL or other sort of documentation somewhere, you might want to read that probably
[18:48] <paul_> at 13.04 even conky not work,& i cry)
[18:48] <reisio> chamunks: yeah right :p
[18:48] <haylo> hey, can i enable persistence on the standard install iso ? maybe with a    "persistence" boot paramter like in a normal debian live type image
[18:48] <reisio> mojtaba: you haven't given enough information
[18:48] <ripplebit> Fuchs: it's a scheme family language, but when i try ./racket.sh, i still get the error: command not found
[18:48] <mojtaba> ubuntology: ?
[18:48] <reisio> haylo: yes, with various tools, or manually
[18:49] <Fuchs> ripplebit: are you in the correct directory, and it is executable?
[18:49] <Fuchs> ripplebit: if you aren't in the right directory: change dir to it  (cd /my/directory/containing/that/file/)
[18:49] <mojtaba> reisio: What do you want to know?
[18:49] <Fuchs> if you are, but it's not executable:  chmod +x thatfile.sh
[18:49] <chamunks> reisio, lol fair enough.  Well we will see a DD might be a good idea if we ran that with a bash script that might work much more effectively then dban or not idk who knows.
[18:49] <reisio> mojtaba: I can help you, but you can't omit information
[18:49] <ubuntology> nothing, mojtaba. just being friendly :) I've got no answer for your question, unfortunately
[18:49] <paul_> im banned?)
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: single pass of zeros, with a decent bs will not take very long
[18:50] <chamunks> reisio, tbh i really aint got time for that.  I just go there on occassion and like to throw in a bit of help here and there.
[18:50] <mojtaba> reisio: ?? Do you want the real email?
[18:50] <turborob> exit
[18:50] <chamunks> reisio, decent bs?
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: yeah, I wipe drives I recycle to places like that, with a single pass of zeros
[18:50] <ripplebit> Fuchs: brilliant, all it needed was to change permissions. thanks
[18:50] <reisio> as a courtesy
[18:50] <Fuchs> ripplebit: you're welcome :)
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: man dd, bs=
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: it's basically how many bytes it will try to write at once
[18:50] <haylo> reisio: is there something i could dl that is preferable? i usually am all bare bones console, but i need network managers ability to make a laptop share wireless with my ethernet based machines easily
[18:51] <chamunks> reisio, yeah I managed to pull alot of crap off of a drive I Never thought I'd see again when I did a recovery a while back.
[18:51] <chamunks> reisio, ah ok I still dont know much about DD its a really old very ... not noob friendly thing.
[18:51] <reisio> haylo: hrmm?
[18:51] <nintet> how do i manually add my partition to fstab?
[18:51] <AndroUser> Guys,  my usb keyboard is not being redetected after disconnecting it.  How do I force it without reboot?  Lsusb - v gets stuck listing some Standard Microsystems Corp.  Device....
[18:51] <reisio> chamunks: just remember to be sure the of= value is correct :p
[18:51] <chamunks> reisio, its one of those old tools that are wildly useful but were made for the days when most people were super huge into linux and knew how everything worked.  I'm not quite there yet.
[18:51] <alexa> Is it safe to use TOR Browser from Ubuntu installed in Virtual Box?
[18:51] <reisio> nintet: with a text editor
[18:52] <reisio> alexa: safe, sure
[18:52] <reisio> alexa: also probably a waste of time
[18:52] <chamunks> reisio, this wouldn't be run on a machine that had any valueable data anyways so any destruction would be good destruction :P
[18:52] <alexa> why?
[18:52] <reisio> chamunks: yeah you aren't kidding, the author of GNU dd was in ##linux one day and he'd forgotten its params
[18:52] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:52] <alexa> I use TOR to bypass time of possible downloads for free users on some sites.
[18:52] <alexa> and it works
[18:52] <alexa> but I've heard it could be malicious
[18:53] <reisio> alexa: what, tor?
[18:53] <alexa> so I decided to use VM as a sandbox
[18:53] <reisio> it's open source, if it's malicious you can see for yourself
[18:53] <alexa> YES, Top
[18:53] <reisio> waste of time
[18:53] <yarmouk> guys I am trying to install my video card driver, I've downloaded the package from this link http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Platform5/srpms/xorg-drv-sis671 and searched about how to install  it, but the files in the instruction are different
[18:53] <alexa> why is it the waste of time?
[18:53] <haylo> chamunks: just experiment with it as non sudo user. making image files. "dd if=/dev/zero of=my_new_disk_image bs=10M count=10"
[18:54] <chamunks> reisio, lol yeah seems like one of those tools that are just great when you need it.
[18:54] <mojtaba> hello?
[18:54] <chamunks> haylo, its cool I'm just mainly inquiring right now Im not in the headspace to play with it just yet.
[18:54] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:54] <haylo> understood
[18:54] <chamunks> haylo, tyvm though :)
[18:55] <ibere_SP> hi there. I've installed Lubuntu 12.10 in my Athlon XP 1800+. I was running sudo apt-get udpate and after that sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. In the middle of some update, I lost the internet connection. System hang up. I rebooted, sudo apt-get clean and sudo dpkg-reconfigure -all. But system seems frozen, but HDD light is working for more than 1 hour... any clues?
[18:56] <jrib> ibere_SP: you don't want to reconfigure all of your packages
[18:56] <yarmouk> guy I need help in compiling video card driver sources
[18:56] <yarmouk> guys*
[18:56] <mojtaba> reisio: ?
[18:56] <reisio> mojtaba: hi
[18:56] <yarmouk> can't find the ./configure file
[18:56] <mojtaba> reisio: Hi, What information is omited?
[18:56] <jrib> ibere_SP: you probably meant to do "dpkg --configure -a" which configures packages that are pending
[18:56] <reisio> yarmouk: what package?
[18:56] <rickb> hello, just lookin for some relatedish info.. anyone ever manually generated their webalizer logs? any idea how long this generally takes?
[18:56] <jrib> !nvidia | yarmouk
[18:56] <reisio> mojtaba: I don't know, but it's omitted just the same
[18:57] <ska> How can i surpress messages to dmesg: :[drm:atom_get_src_int] *ERROR* ATOM: fb read beyond scratch region:
[18:57] <ska> ???
[18:57] <ibere_SP> jrib, i tried that before, but got the same error messages with dependencies.
[18:57] <mojtaba> reisio: You don't know???!!!!
[18:57] <jrib> ibere_SP: you should pastebin the error messages
[18:57] <yarmouk> reisio, http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Platform5/srpms/xorg-drv-sis671 this one
[18:57] <reisio> mojtaba: no I don't know, you've omitted it
[18:57] <jrib> ibere_SP: include input commands too
[18:57] <mojtaba> reisio: What do you want to know?
[18:57] <yarmouk> reisio, jrib sis671
[18:58] <ibere_SP> jrib, the other system looks frozen... but HDD light is working for more than 1 hour. should i reboot?
[18:58] <jrib> ibere_SP: I'm confused.  There are two systems?
[18:59] <ibere_SP> jrib, i'm talking to you on my laptop. it's working fine. the problem is with lubuntu 12.10 at my desktop.
[18:59] <haylo> normall install CD has option for booting to gnome desktop right ?
[18:59] <reisio> yarmouk: doesn't necessarily need to be a configure file
[18:59] <haylo> i dont want to dl the wrong thing :P
[18:59] <jrib> ibere_SP: but you said you tried dpkg --configure -a and then tried something else?  What exactly did you do?
[18:59] <reisio> mojtaba: it's not what I want to know, it's what you have to provide for anyone to help you
[18:59] <reisio> haylo: out of what choices?
[19:00] <mojtaba> reisio: That is all the information, there is nothing more than this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[19:00] <yarmouk> reisio, so where should i start the package does not contain installation instructions in readme file
[19:00] <reisio> mojtaba: there's no such thing as hidden text
[19:00] <yarmouk> here is the ls output
[19:00] <yarmouk> ls
[19:00] <yarmouk> autogen.sh  config.log        copying  Makefile     readme       stamp-h1
[19:00] <yarmouk> ChangeLog   configure.ac      debian   Makefile.am  README.sgml
[19:00] <yarmouk> config.h    configure.lineno  libtool  man
[19:00] <FloodBot1> yarmouk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <nintet> i edited fstab manually and i still do not have permissions to copy files to it
[19:01] <ibere_SP> jrib, installed fresh lubuntu 12.10 and no problems. sudo apt-get update. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. lost internet connection in the middle of something. system hang up. i rebooted. sudo apt-get clean. sudo dpkg --configure -a. lot's of error messages
[19:01] <reisio> yarmouk: configure, make, make install
[19:02] <ibere_SP> jrib, then i decided to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all. it's working for more than 1 hour now.
[19:02] <yarmouk> reisio, I will try and come back
[19:03] <haylo> normal install image, can boot into a live desktop correct ?
[19:03] <ibere_SP> jrib, should it last more than 1 hour?
[19:03] <yarmouk> reisio, it doesn't work i get the following  bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[19:03] <ripplebit> guys chrome is having trouble pal]
[19:03] <ripplebit> guys chrome is having trouble playing some videos on youtube
[19:03] <nintet> what should my fstab entry for that disk look like?
[19:04] <yarmouk> reisio,  and here is the ls output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790475/
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> nintet, There are ubuntu wiki's on fstab
[19:04] <nintet> i was just on it
[19:04] <nintet> and i did everything they talked about and it does not work
[19:05] <reisio> yarmouk: ask ##linux what to do with configure.ac
[19:05] <nintet> the disk mounts in the folder and i cant copy files to it
[19:05] <yarmouk> reisio, thanx mate
[19:05] <gordonjcp> yarmouk: there's not a script called "autogen.sh" or anything is there?
[19:05] <yva> holstein, I tried a livecd for my problem with global menu and it works with the live cd. I checked the version nubers for the appmenu install and there are the same on the live cd and install
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> nintet, pastebin your fstab and post it you will probably get help then.
[19:06] <ripplebit> anyone know why chromium can't play some youtube videos?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > nintet
[19:06] <nintet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790495/
[19:07] <dsan> I have a shitty graphical card, which one is better in GUI performance lubuntu or xubuntu?
[19:07] <reisio> ripplebit: which one?
[19:07] <ibere_SP> jrib, thank you for your help so far. need to to log off. be back later.:)
[19:07] <ripplebit> reisio: Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 13.04 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3)
[19:08] <dsan> I mean xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop?
[19:08] <Guest14223> Hello anyone know whether its safe to insatll ubuntu on the Samsung Series 7 17.3 model no. NP700Z7C?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> dsan, The chanell does not allow swearing
[19:09] <ripplebit> reisio: when i uninstall/re-install, it seems to work for a bit, then breaks again
[19:09] <reisio> ripplebit: sorry, which youtube video
[19:10] <Guest14223> anyone :(
[19:10] <reisio> Guest14223: safe?
[19:10] <Guest14223> yeah there have been issues with the uefi
[19:11] <Guest14223> causing the laptop to get bricked
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > Guest14223
[19:11] <ripplebit> reisio: it depends. Some work, some dont. I imagine it may have something to do with incompatible formats, although im not sure how to test that theory
[19:11] <reisio> Guest14223: why ask a question you know the answer to
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Not sure if you have seen that link.
[19:11] <Guest14223> yeah i saw it
[19:12] <nintet> what is the normal way to make a new linux partition and then add it to the system?
[19:12] <nintet> i used Gparted
[19:12] <Guest14223> i read that you can reinstall windows 8 with the bios option
[19:12] <Guest14223> instead of uefi but is it still safe?
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, So a ubuntu install bricked the computer that you did or just info on the web?
[19:14] <DylanCl> So, I bought the laptop I'm on a year ago now, a month ago I smashed my screen by dropping it on the floor. I could still see a bit of the screen but since I used a second monitor, it didn't really matter. I had Ubuntu and Windows. I sent my laptop to a very good friend of me to fix the screen, he did, but he deleted Windows because it had the blue screen error. Now I'm stuck with Ubuntu and I really want to go back to Windows. When I do
[19:15] <ofhs> Is it possible to make my USB mic work if there's no linux drivers for it?
[19:15] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, i have read about it on the internet and its a big issue with this model
[19:15] <yarmouk> reisio, can't post in ##linux
[19:15] <A1Recon> Is there a way to check traffic over my router?
[19:15] <A1Recon> Wireshark??
[19:15] <ofhs> The sound options recognizes it as an "input" and it apparently percieves volume in it (when i breathe into it the volume bar goes up http://i.imgur.com/W7s1uMM.png )
[19:16] <ofhs> But I can't get it to work with Skype or any other voice recorder.
[19:16] <ofhs> Anyone able to help?
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Check the date of this info, there was manufacturers tweaked UEFI that caused problems, I believe it has been remedied.
[19:16] <yarmouk> A1Recon, not sure but I read once that DDWRT can help in that
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> A manufacture*
[19:17] <kostkon> ofhs, have you set it as the default input device in your sound prefs?
[19:17] <ofhs> Yeah
[19:17] <ofhs> It's the only input device
[19:18] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, yeah I called samsung and they said that they haven't fixed it.  The issue page for ubunu said that it has been fixed but im just worried that installing it will brick my laptop.
[19:18] <kostkon> ofhs, then what's the problem exactly
[19:18] <ofhs> kostkon: It doesn't work with Skype or anything else
[19:19] <ofhs> kostkon: Also, when I close the sound manager and reopen it, it doesn't seem to recognize when I talk into it anymore
[19:19] <kostkon> ofhs, have you test it in skype?
[19:19] <ofhs> Yeah, it doesn't work/
[19:20] <dsan> I have AMD E2-3200 APU graphic card and having trouble with ubuntu's unity. could anyone tell me if I need xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop to get a better GUI performance?
[19:20] <kostkon> ofhs, hmm
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Understandable caution, I doubt this channel will get you a definitive answer though.
[19:22] <kostkon> ofhs, the strange thing why is the only input device. where's the mic of your sound card
[19:22] <kostkon> damn
[19:22] <compdoc> dsan, have you tried installing the latest amd drivers?
[19:22] <kostkon> ofhs, pressed enter too soo. the strange thing is that it's the only input device
[19:22] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, yeah thanks for your time though. Do you know of any channel that could help?
[19:23] <ofhs> kostkon: I dunno, nothing else shows up, so it could just be hidden on the list?
[19:24] <kostkon> ofhs, hmm. you could check the output of  aplay -l
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, I can't think of any the problem in general has a small signature in the sense of how many people have run into this. I would start a thread at the ubuntu forums for feedback.
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> as well anyway
[19:25] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, alright thanks!
[19:25] <kostkon> ofhs, you could also reset your pulseaudio and see if that will sort it out, by that i mean make your onboard mic to appear
[19:25] <ofhs> kostkon: This is the result of that http://pastebin.com/N1J1K5m6
[19:25] <dsan> compdoc, it had radeon driver (3.5 kernel), then I installed fglrx, but the desktop is still slow. do you have any suggestion to increase graphic card's performance?
[19:25] <ofhs> How do I reset my pulseaudio?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Good luck, you could go virtual in the mean time just to have the OS.
[19:25] <kostkon> ofhs, if you want to consider that option, then you'll need to delete your ~/.pulse folder, logout and log back in
[19:26] <kostkon> ofhs, are you on a laptop
[19:27] <ofhs> kostkon: Nope
[19:28] <nintet> here i am asking you guys about simple commands won't work on my system and i dont even have python installed
[19:28] <kostkon> ofhs, desktop with an onboard sound card, which i assume you havent disabled
[19:28] <nintet> Xubuntu is really stripped down
[19:28] <Slendermang> Hi, could anyone help me out? I'm have a 2nd HDD that im trying to get it to automount. I cant set permissions on it for my other pcs to access files as I assume it is because of the fuseblk filesystem it has currently.
[19:28] <nintet> Slendermang, same exact problem here
[19:29] <dsan> is it correct command to remove unity on 12.10 "sudo apt-get remove unity unity-2d unity-2d-panel unity-2d-spread unity-asset-pool unity-services unity-lens-files unity-lens-music unity-lens-applications gir1.2-unity-5.0 unity-common indicator-sound indicator-power indicator-appmenu libindicator7 indicator-application indicator-datetime indicator-messages libnux-2.0-0 nux-tools libunity-misc4 unity-2d-common"
[19:29] <reisio> Slendermang: chown -R user:user /mnt/pnt
[19:30] <dunhamds> I downloaded a plugin for google audio and video calls but the bin file, whin I click on it, does nothing. Can anyone help make sense of this for a total n00b?
[19:30] <reisio> dunhamds: running from a terminal might yield more information
[19:31] <crond> dunhamds, chmod +x the plugin, then ./blah_plugin.bin from terminal
[19:31] <dunhamds> reisio.. I'm not even sure what that means :/
[19:31] <Slendermang> Reisio, I already have permissions to acess files/folders but I can't seem to give other usergroups permissions
[19:32] <Slendermang> The drive doesnt automatically mount on launch and such I dont think I can give other computers/usergroups permissions without having it do so
[19:32] <Slendermang> I was wondering on how the fstab should be propperly written for a 2nd drive as its kind of overwhelming for me, never used Linux prior
[19:33] <ofhs> kostkon: So is my best bet to try resetting my pulseaudio thing then?
[19:33] <reisio> Slendermang: same as first, only ending in 0 0
[19:34] <Slendermang> reisio, Ok I'll give that a try thanks :)
[19:35] <reisio> man fstab has the details
[19:36] <eowyn113> hi
[19:37] <eowyn113> I'm running on xubuntu, my mouse doesn't work and I don't find my xorg.conf
[19:37] <reisio> hi baby
[19:37] <reisio> eowyn113: xorg.conf isn't usually present by default anymore
[19:37] <reisio> eowyn113: is it a mouse or a touchpad?
[19:38] <eowyn113> a mouse. pc desktop
[19:38] <reisio> eowyn113: usb?
[19:38] <eowyn113> yes
[19:38] <reisio> try another port?
[19:39] <eowyn113> yes. when bios is running the light is on nd it goes off when xubuntu is booting
[19:40] <reisio> this is xubuntu 12?
[19:40] <eowyn113> yes xubuntu 12 lts
[19:40] <reisio> what kind of keyboard layout?
[19:42] <eowyn113> layout = how it's connected to computer ?
[19:42] <reisio> eowyn113: no, like where the keys are
[19:43] <eowyn113> azerty french
[19:43] <nintet> i cant mount any disks with read write permissions and i need help!!
[19:43] <nintet> Xubuntu 12.04
[19:44] <nintet> i have looked over this thread for the last hour http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[19:44] <reisio> eowyn113: I'd probably guess some keyboard layout mismatch first
[19:44] <reisio> eowyn113: perhaps #ubuntu-fr might have some clues
[19:44] <yva> Nobody to help with the globalmenu selectively not working?
[19:45] <eowyn113>  #ubuntu-fr is kinda dead. maybe on forum
[19:46] <reisio> maybe
[19:46] <reisio> it's Saturday :)
[19:46] <Slendermang> I just tried to mount the drive and got this, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so" The filesystem for the drive is HPFS/NTFS/exFAT, what should the type option be in fstab?
[19:47] <Slendermang> I believe ntfs-3g ?
[19:48] <Slendermang> Yep that worked, awnsered my own question. Thanks for the help earlier reisio
[19:50] <morning> Running Precise, I have my sys.log and kern.log filling up to gigabyte sizes. (Seems to be this issue or one like it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/883646.) But -- the present problem -- I've deleted both those files, but the space doesn't seem reclaimed. I assume they're hiding somewhere, but I can't find them. So my system has 0 space left. What can I do?
[19:52] <wheatthin> morning, you can use logrotate to manage them
[19:52] <morning> Whetthin: How do I do that?
[19:53] <vasil4> I'm looking for hire for btc someone who'll make a customized set up
[19:54] <wheatthin> morning, sudo apt-get install logrotate
[19:54] <morning> whetthin: Thank you. Will try.
[19:54] <rudy-993> Hello everybody
[19:56] <morning> wheatthin: Meanwhile, though, I'm out of space. I'm thinking those files I deleted must still be hidden somewhere. Wil logrotate help me with that too?
[19:56] <wheatthin> rudy-993, did you have a question?
[19:56] <wheatthin> morning, well you can cd /var/log and ls -lh to see which ones are largest
[19:57] <morning> wheatthin: Thank you. Will try.
[19:57] <morning> gopis108
[19:58] <rudy-993> weatthin i just wanted to introduce myself
[19:58] <mojtaba> reisio: I found the answer
[19:58] <anonnumberanon> if some of you can remember I tried to install on a no-usb-boot machine yesterday. I bought RW DVDs today and will try that now.
[19:58] <mojtaba> reisio: If you want to know also
[19:58] <mojtaba>  grep -E -o "\b[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+@[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\.[a-zA-Z0-9.-]+\b" filename.txt
[19:58] <wheatthin> rudy-993, no need.. this is for support.. if you wanna chat, go here #ubuntu-offtopic  they'll more than welcome the chat as long as it's g rated ;)
[19:59] <rudy-993> ok, sorry for disturbing
[19:59] <anonnumberanon> And I have a quick question about burning speeds for install DVD. Should I be concerned about them? Will be burning this 4X DVD from a Thinkpad T420..
[19:59] <wheatthin> rudy-993, not disturbing at all.. it's just people are picky about offtopic conversations
[20:00] <morning> weatthin: Apt-get says I already have the latest version of logrotate installed. ls -lh shows a new syslog of reasonable size and no kernel.log.
[20:01] <wheatthin> morning, did you go into /var/log and see which ones are the large ones?
[20:02] <morning> weaththin: Yes, there are no large ones. Sys.log and kernel.logo used to be 4 GB each, but I deleted them.
[20:02] <wheatthin> morning, alrighty, well in /etc/logrotate, I believe you can set a size limit or how often to rotate them
[20:03] <brian_petersen> How do I remove the application grouping in the alt+tab switcher?
[20:03] <wheatthin> brian_petersen, is this gnome 3?
[20:04] <brian_petersen> wheatthin: unity
[20:05] <wheatthin> hmm
[20:05] <morning> weaththin: Unclear how to do that. (I'm not very techy.) The help mentions an option "-f, --force" but doesn't say more on how to use them (and indicates a <configfile>).
[20:06] <wheatthin> brian_petersen, http://askubuntu.com/questions/218589/disable-alt-tab-switcher-grouping-by-script-or-command   check that out
[20:06] <aamer> hello room im having a problem with deluge, and the deluge room is almost dead. can anyone help me?
[20:07] <wheatthin> morning, using sudo gedit /etc/logrotate  will open an editor with root privs to edit the config file
[20:07] <wheatthin> !ask | aamer
[20:09] <wheatthin> brian_petersen, compiz manager options will also help disable it i believe
[20:09] <aamer> ubottu wheatthin sorry for this one but I really suffered from talking to myself for more than 24 hours, so sorry again but I had to, anyway now I'm trying to run deluged (daemon) and I followed this tutorial http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript/Ubuntu%2011.04%2B%20%28Upstart%20Job%29
[20:10] <aamer> well ubottu bots are becoming a lot more intelligent than many people.
[20:10] <wheatthin> aamer, cause people program them ;0
[20:10] <brian_petersen> wheatthin: Yeah, I am looking through the ccsm right now, I am trying to figure out where to enable the static switcher, but I have yet to find it. I think it's hidden or disabled by default.
[20:10] <aamer> ubottu you guessed, I'm angry
[20:11] <syntroPi> lol
[20:11] <aamer> wheatthin cuz people program them when they're not mad (like I am now)
[20:11] <aamer> ubottu shutdown
[20:11] <wheatthin> aamer, can you see if deluge is in /etc/init.d
[20:13] <aamer> wheatthin it's not there
[20:15] <syntroPi> he is using upstart so its  /etc/init/deluged.conf
[20:15] <wheatthin> aamer, that tutorial describes how to start it and put it in the startup
[20:15] <wheatthin> ahh my bad
[20:15] <aamer> wheatthin it shouldn't be there
[20:15] <aamer> yes wheatthin
[20:15] <aamer> wheatthin I followed the tutorial
[20:15] <aamer> now I can't get to the web ui
[20:16] <aamer> although i could in the beginning
[20:16] <syntroPi> aamer,  would be helpfull if you could describe a problem at least once
[20:16] <aamer> I don't understand what I'm doing
[20:16] <Magicarp> The window manager still loads but Unity has stopped. Here is my XSession error log http://pastebin.com/MpMP0gDj
[20:17] <aamer> syntroPi I can't reach the web ui, and i don't know whether the process is running or not, totally lost
[20:17] <wheatthin> aamer, ps aux | grep deluge
[20:19] <aamer> wheatthin just please let me understand this step, deluged with d is the daemon name so why should I type deluge?
[20:19] <morning> weatthin: Okay, I see a sample config file at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/logrotate.8.html. I assume what I should do is add two entries, one for kern.log and the other for sys.log. And for options I've put  "rotate 2," "daily" and "size 100k," followed by "postrotate" and (next line) " /usr/bin/killall -HUP syslogd". Does this seem right?
[20:19] <syntroPi> because its a substring then
[20:19] <syntroPi> aamer does it show anything running
[20:19] <wheatthin> aamer, because you're asking to see what running processes
[20:20] <wheatthin> in this incident, deluge or deluged
[20:20] <stef1a> Somehow Unity broke under 13.04 for me. I've almost got it working again -- my remaining problem is that Dash and the tool-bar don't show, and I can
[20:20] <wheatthin> morning, rgr :)
[20:20] <aamer> root@ubesktop:/etc/init.d# ps aux | grep deluge
[20:20] <stef1a> 't cycle between windows with alt + tab. Also, in ccsm, when I enable Ubuntu Unity Plugin, the next time I run ccsm, it's automatically disabled.
[20:20] <aamer> deluge    1606  2.1  0.4  50232 15796 ?        Ssl  22:26   1:10 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/deluged -d -l /var/log/deluge/daemon.log -L warning
[20:20] <aamer> root      4020  0.0  0.0   4388   808 pts/3    S+   23:20   0:00 grep --color=auto deluge
[20:21] <wheatthin> aamer, see, it's running
[20:21] <wheatthin> aamer, to see what it's doing check /var/log/delug/daemon.log
[20:21] <wheatthin> /var/log/deluge/daemon.log
[20:21] <morning> wheatthin: Okay. Will try this. Thank you very much for your help!
[20:21] <Magicarp> stef1a I'm having issues with unity on raring too. Everything was fine until two days ago when some packages got updated
[20:22] <stef1a> Magicarp: same exact thing happened to me. Everything was working fine until ~two days ago.
[20:22] <aamer> OMG I did this many times it has nothing to do with the problem
[20:22] <syntroPi> aamer, what does "sudo  netstat -lptu | grep 1606" show you?
[20:22] <aamer> [WARNING ] 22:26:49 torrentmanager:630 Unable to update state file to a compatible version: list index out of range
[20:22] <wheatthin> aamer, in the config file does it state whether or not the webui is running/
[20:22] <aamer> [WARNING ] 22:26:49 torrentmanager:733 Unable to load fastresume file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/deluge/.config/del$
[20:23] <stef1a> anyone know why Unity stopped working in 13.04, and why ccsm doesn't allow Ubuntu Unity Plugin to be enabled?
[20:23] <morning> Weatthin: Oh, but one more thing: I still have no space. I assume the problem is that my previously deleted sys.log and kern.log are still lurking somewhere unseen. How to find and get rid of them?
[20:23] <aamer> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[20:23] <aamer> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[20:25] <syntroPi> aamer sure you typed that correctly?
[20:25] <Guest73575> hi any chance any one could point me in the right direction ? ..... im looking to extend my desktop but i can only mirror it on ubuntu studio, any help would be grand
[20:25] <wheatthin> morning, here's the syntax http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[20:25] <aamer> wheatthin what config file
[20:25] <syntroPi> aamer                                sudo netstat -lptu | grep 1606
[20:25] <morning> weatthin: Thank you.
[20:26] <michael87> I'm tryying to find some colored windows themes for ubuntu other then light grey, dark grey, black, and various blue for gtk3. I've tried metacity themes and emerald but they leg ubuntu 13.04 or at least in live mode. Please help
[20:26] <brian_petersen> I installed the tint2 package and I am trying to run tint2conf, but it says to install the tint2 package to get that binary. Anybody know how to get that particular binary?
[20:26] <michael87> I am the colored a day type person. red, blue, and green
[20:26] <syntroPi> aamer, that should show you the open ports of PID 1606 which seems to be your deluged (seen in ps -aux | grep deluge)
[20:27] <Magicarp> Unity has suddenly stopped working although the window manger still does. Here is my XSession error log http://pastebin.com/MpMP0gDj
[20:28] <aamer> syntroPi ok should i paste that here?
[20:28] <MadsRC> I have disabled recursive DNS for my bind DNS server, but then my clients can't resolve domains anymore. Shouldn't the Ubuntu BIND9 package enable iterative dns when recursion is disabled?
[20:28] <wheatthin> aamer, use pastebin
[20:29] <syntroPi> aamer your deluged gets a different pid everytime you stop and start it : so if you havent stopped it meanwhile copy and paste that in a terminal and see which port is open
[20:29] <anonnumberanon> http://www.wikihow.com/Burn-ISO-Files-to-DVD
[20:29] <aamer> syntroPi I got a few ports open but this has nothing to do with the web ui
[20:29] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, may we help you?
[20:30] <syntroPi> aamer which ports are open?
[20:30] <anonnumberanon> wheaties, too late
[20:36] <wheatthin> brb
[20:38] <benedikt> my ATI 5750 card is slower with both fglrx og fglrx-updates than with the radeon driver. is this common?
[20:38] <airtonix> aamer: read your messages here and peoples attempt to help you. 1. have you run deluge-web too ? 2. pastebin the contents of your /etc/init/deluge-web.conf 3. pastebin the output of sudo ls -al /var/lib/deluge
[20:39] <savio> Hi all
[20:39] <ethereal> hows it going
[20:39] <airtonix> aamer: have you tried stooping both the deluge daemn and the deluge web service? sudo service deluge-web stop && sudo service deluge-web start
[20:40] <airtonix> aamer: and finally my opinionated point of view is that if you
[20:41] <airtonix> aamer: 1. if you're not sure what you're doing you should follow the instructions very carefully 2. I wouldn't use torrents anyway.
[20:42] <Forty> Greetings.
[20:42] <anonnumberanon> YES! the laptop booted from DVD
[20:43] <Forty> How to convert a .bin file in a .run file? HPLIP
[20:43] <Forty> chmod -x?
[20:43] <Forty> no, its not.
[20:44] <Forty> How to convert a .bin file in a .run file?
[20:44] <anonnumberanon> proceedinh to play Zelda's theme song because best victory song.
[20:44] <benedikt> Forty: what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:44] <benedikt> do you have a .bin file that you want to execute (run)?
[20:45] <Forty> benedikt: Yes. I already did: bash ./file.bin. Happened that I got an error.
[20:45] <savio> ethereal: fine I guess :)
[20:46] <Forty> Was executed wrong. I would like to convert it to install HPLIP
[20:46] <Saiki> !jp
[20:46] <BluesKaj> fory there's no need to convert , just /nameof.bin in the terminal
[20:46] <Saiki> ok.. no one in there.. go figure.. lol
[20:47] <Saiki> anyone able to type in japanese, I'm missing a letter I can't find
[20:47] <DJones> Forty: Is there a reason you're not using the hplip in the repo's?
[20:48] <Forty> DJones: Don't work fomr me. I've a new HP printer. i need from the official website.
[20:48] <DJones> Forty: ok, was making sure, sometimes people don't realise its in the repo's, I had to do the same for my HP printer
[20:48] <_dual>  exit
[20:49] <BlueEagle> Forty: To make a file executable you need to `chmod a+x filename`
[20:49] <Forty> BlueEagle: Thank you.
[20:49] <BlueEagle> Forty: The parameter a indicates all and +x is add execution rights
[20:49] <Forty> Tryin'
[20:49] <BlueEagle> Forty: Fore more info: man chmod
[20:49] <Forty> BlueEagle: Ok.
[20:50] <BluesKaj> Forty, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-execute-a-run-or-bin-file-in-ubuntu#.UcYNvKClc3g
[20:50] <Forty> BluesKaj: Thank you.
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Forty, np , hope it works for you
[20:57] <Kelsey_Belsey> I was wondering, what's a good editing program like photoshop? Nick119119 Sent me. Please and thank you.
[20:57] <clue_h> Gimp?
[20:57] <primeras> hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I want to use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[20:58] <primeras> Is it safe?
[20:58] <Kelsey_Belsey> I've dealt with gimp, it's not as good as photoshop in my opinion.
[20:59] <clue_h> Photoshop is good, i think linux distros are catching up with photoediting etc though. Have you tried inkscape
[20:59] <clue_h> depends on what level of work you do
[20:59] <holstein> !ppa | primeras
[20:59] <Kelsey_Belsey> I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[20:59] <holstein> "good" is a matter of opinion.. the GIMP does what it does quite well
[21:00] <clue_h> True, I use gimp personally
[21:00] <Kelsey_Belsey> I mostly like, do anime pictures and change everything. Like hair, eyes, background. Everything. Even draw in things.
[21:00] <holstein> if you want or expect photoshop you should use it.. otherwise, you will surely be dissapointed, since only photoshop is photoshop
[21:01] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I mean, I guess I could try to make gimp better with my photoshop experience.
[21:01] <Kelsey_Belsey> I'm just use to all the photoshop stuff.
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Kelsey_Belsey  I havent followed, are you a developer?
[21:01] <mchlbhm> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 amd64, did dist-upgrade and tried to play a DVD. I selected movie player, but it didn't work. How could I fix this?
[21:02] <Kelsey_Belsey> I wanted to know a program on here that works like photoshop.
[21:02] <clue_h> You could it has tools that are similar, i've used both and filtering and with  layering is easy to transfer what you know
[21:02] <holstein> !dvd | mchlbhm
[21:02] <BlueEagle> mchlbhm: In what manner did it "not work"?
[21:02] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: "works like" Photoshop would be Photoshop
[21:02] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I heard that it doesn't work on ubuntu.
[21:02] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: nope
[21:03] <holstein> Kelsey_Belsey: photoshop is photoshop.. gimp is what folks use to do what you are mentioning.. try it.. its in the repos, and free of charge to try and use
[21:03] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: there is a graphic editor calld gimp which has similar principles
[21:03] <mchlbhm> Movie player hung
[21:03] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: there was a set of patches called "gimpshop" that tried to make the menus look like photoshop
[21:03] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I have used gimp in the past, then I upgraded to photoshop and never looked back.
[21:03] <Kelsey_Belsey> That would help a lot.
[21:03] <gordonjcp> that was a pretty stupid idea, and I think the project died
[21:04] <Forty> I'm running a bin file in the terminal and HPLIP setup ask me for the root's password. I put it and crash. Stop.
[21:05] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I heard from people that photoshop was better, and I think it is. But my knowledge of editing was very little when I had gimp and got better with photoshop.
[21:05] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: for suitable values of "better"
[21:05] <gordonjcp> I prefer using gimp to photoshop because I don't know photoshop very well
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: frankly, if you want photoshop use photoshop, and buy a mac
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: there's no point going with anything else, if that's what you actually *need*
[21:06] <clue_h> I started with photoshop a while back from version 4, then i moved to linux and tried gimp and found i could do alot still, but it took some time to learn
[21:06] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I can get use to gimp again, it's not a problem.
[21:07] <Kelsey_Belsey> If I can't get it on here, I can manage.
[21:07] <Wobbo> Any tips? 'AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)' won't work. I am using 'amdxdg-su -c amdcccle' true terminal, then i get a new terminal minal asking for my password. Then it doesn't matter if I put a richt password or not, that terminal wont show any AMD Catalyst... I have used the logical way, 'sudo amdcccle' but that won't save any installations or anything.
[21:08] <HeadcaseFargone> Hi all.  Any RAID experts happen to be around?
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !ask | HeadcaseFargone
[21:09] <wheatthin> Wobbo, how'd you install the ati drivers?
[21:10] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: Software/hardware or hybrid raid?
[21:10] <HeadcaseFargone> I'm looking to upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 but am currently running a software RAID5 array and have read many users having issues with arrays not building properly after an upgrade.  I was wondering if I simply ran 12.04 from a USB stick to test this, is there any danger to the integrity of the data on that array?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> HeadcaseFargone: not if you mount it read-only
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> HeadcaseFargone  you would have to go via 12.10
[21:12] <HeadcaseFargone> Why 12.10?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> 11.10, even
[21:12] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: The raid should not need to be rebuilt. It does however depend on how you have set up the raid. You do want to generate a raid configuration file so that you do not rely on the auto configuration.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> HeadcaseFargone  you cannot go directly from 11.04 to 12.04, or it must be a fresh install
[21:13] <HeadcaseFargone> I believe it's simply using the built-in Disk Utility.  It's been a while, but I remember running gparted at the command line and then doing something in the Disk Utility GUI.
[21:14] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: The safest thing in all cases is to refresh your backup set before altering the OS.
[21:14] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: If the data is irreplacable then RAID is no substitute for a good backup scheme.
[21:14] <HeadcaseFargone> I understand.  It wouldn't be the end of the world if I lost it, but it would suck a bit.
[21:14] <vivi> hi
[21:15] <HeadcaseFargone> Your raid configuration file sounds like what I'm looking for.  Looking into that now.
[21:16] <HeadcaseFargone> Is the configuration file generated through mdadm?
[21:16] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Saving_your_RAID_configuration
[21:17] <savio> Is it  possible to get kernel 3.5 for ubuntu 13.04
[21:17] <HeadcaseFargone> Excellent, thank you
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> savio  13.04 has 3.8, start from the beginning, why do you want 3.5, maybe there's a different solution for your issue
[21:22] <zham> Hello! How are you?
[21:23] <zham> I have a doubt, does have any good software/script that could help me to configure a new kernel for Ubuntu 13.04?
[21:24] <cgtdk> zham: Pleasantries are unnecessary
[21:24] <zham> cgtdk: Ok.
[21:25] <contrapunctus> ubottu - Ping
[21:25] <savio> MonkeyDust: changing brightness on my ubuntu laptop system freezes
[21:25] <zham> cgtdk: So... do u know any sw/script that help to config a kernel?
[21:26] <Wobbo> I installed it using the ubuntu 'Software & Updates' thing. \
[21:26] <cgtdk> zham: I don't know much about anything, sorry
[21:26] <zham> cgtdk: Ok, no problem.
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> Wobbo  define 'it'
[21:27] <savio> Its solved acpi_backlight=vendor solved my problem on quental kernel but its not working with raring kernel
[21:28] <deanclkclk> hello folks..having an issue with ubuntu running sudo su
[21:28] <HeadcaseFargone> BlueEagle   From what I'm reading mdadm.conf is automatically generated when you create an array, and that file does indeed exist in /etc/mdadm/ but editing it it doesn't appear to really contain any information about my array.
[21:28] <deanclkclk> -> /etc/sudoers: /etc/sudoers.d too many open files near line 29
[21:28] <deanclkclk> no valid sudoers sources found, quitting. unable to initialize policy plugin
[21:28] <HeadcaseFargone> No device information or anything.  Do I need to manually run the command to generate it?
[21:29] <zykotick9> deanclkclk: don't do "sudo su"!  use "sudo -i" if you _must_ (and you probably don't)
[21:29] <Flannel> deanclkclk: Have you manually edited your sudoers file (recently)?
[21:30] <deanclkclk> zykotick9: I am trying to do a nano .desktop and save it
[21:30] <deanclkclk> it seems I need to be root user to do it
[21:30] <deanclkclk> Flannel: no
[21:30] <wheatthin> dean, use sudo nano .desktop
[21:30] <ethereal> installing ubuntu on parallels 7, wish me luck
[21:30] <Flannel> deanclkclk: `sudo nano` works fine, by the way, but that's not related to your problem.
[21:31] <deanclkclk> I know but, when I try to do cntrl+x -> access denied
[21:31] <Flannel> deanclkclk: not if you use sudo.  and ctrl-o is write, ctrl-x is quit.
[21:31] <deanclkclk> ahh I see
[21:31] <wheatthin> Flannel, it'll also work with cntrl+x, it'll ask to rewrite the file
[21:32] <Wobbo> is the easy way, just enter one of the two options.
[21:32] <Flannel> wheatthin: yes, but that's quitting, not saving.
[21:32] <savio> Is it  possible to get kernel 3.5 for ubuntu 13.04
[21:32] <deanclkclk> Flannel: when I run sudo nano I get the same error
[21:32] <wheatthin> Flannel, it's closing, not quiting, and upon quitting it asks to re-write the file, and asks for the file name if there had been changes made
[21:32] <Prock81> where do i begin to get my 3D drivers, what command to tell what i need
[21:32] <deanclkclk> about too many oepn file line 29
[21:33] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, can you paste line 29?
[21:33] <Flannel> deanclkclk: right, that's what you should do instead of sudo su (once resolved), but your issue is a separate problem.
[21:34] <deanclkclk> I will pastie the /ec/sudoers.d
[21:35] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, comment #includedir /etc/sudoers.d
[21:35] <wheatthin> in /etc/sudoers
[21:35] <Wobbo> http://imagebin.org/262210
[21:36] <savio> Anyone
[21:37] <wheatthin> Wobbo, .. and do you mean not saving settings in catalyst? what type of settings?
[21:37] <deanclkclk> what can I use to edit it?
[21:37] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, nano
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> savio, Non stock kernels are not really supported, however someone may help you, just a heads up really, any details as to why might help.
[21:38] <deanclkclk> yeah but, I will get the same error about line 29
[21:38] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, you can always pop in the livedvd and edit it from there
[21:38] <savio> MonkeyDust: changing brightness on my ubuntu laptop system freezes
[21:39] <deanclkclk> :S
[21:39] <savio> acpi_backlight=vendor solved my problem on quental kernel but its not working with raring kernel
[21:39] <deanclkclk> live dvd
[21:39] <deanclkclk> oh god
[21:39] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, ehh or
[21:39] <deanclkclk> but, why is it saying too many open files near line 29
[21:39] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, su root
[21:39] <Prock81> hey guys dont mean to sound pushy but i got to take off on a sail boat today, my laptop has built in gps, i got software, but i need 3D support for my app, to laggy
[21:40] <deanclkclk> what's the default password for root?
[21:40] <savio> wilee-nilee: I know they are not supported but I think this is only my option
[21:40] <deanclkclk> @ wheatthin
[21:40] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, there is no default password for root.. it's randomly generated
[21:41] <savio> wilee-nilee:  changing kernel will break any application installed ,I don't think so
[21:41] <deanclkclk> yeah because, it's asking me for a password
[21:41] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, in the case, you'll have to boot the livedvd
[21:41] <Prock81> my laptop has intel and ninvidia hardware
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> savio, Cool, just wanted to make sure knew why there may had been little response. ;)
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> possibly why anyway
[21:41] <deanclkclk> I don't even have a live cd
[21:42] <Prock81> deanclkclk "sudo su" put ur current pass , then "passwd root" to change it
[21:42] <deanclkclk> i am running ubuntu through virtualbox
[21:42] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, how did you install it in the first place?
[21:42] <wheatthin> Prock81, sudo isn't working
[21:42] <deanclkclk> .iso image..it's running from virtual box wheat
[21:42] <wheatthin> ehh well then use the iso image duh
[21:43] <wheatthin> same concept
[21:43] <deanclkclk> but, then I'll have to reinstall the app
[21:43] <Prock81> deanclkclk "sudoedit"
[21:43] <wheatthin> no..
[21:43] <mwmisner> hello! I am having an issue with installing anything (via apt-get)  on an ubuntu 12.10 server (terminal only). does anyone have any resources that could lead t a solution to the following error? "Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra-3.5.0-34-generic  linux-image-generic  linux-generic"
[21:43] <wheatthin> when you boot, select "try"
[21:43] <deanclkclk> Prock81: how does that work ?
[21:44] <savio> wilee-nilee:  I like ubuntu 13.04 its GUI is smooth that's why I want quental kernal
[21:44] <Prock81> if someone help me, i help u
[21:44] <wheatthin> Prock81, was it working to begin with/
[21:45] <Prock81> no
[21:45] <Prock81> i need 3d support
[21:45] <wheatthin> no kidding.
[21:46] <Flannel> Prock81: Please don't recommend that people set a root password.  Thanks.
[21:46] <wheatthin> Prock81, did you install the drivers?
[21:47] <prahlad> need some help with python. anyone willing to help ?
[21:47] <Prock81> i need to know where to begin to get the drivers i need
[21:47] <savio> Anyone?
[21:47] <wheatthin> Prock81, use software update
[21:47] <prahlad> import pickle
[21:47] <prahlad> from pickle import *
[21:47] <prahlad> if __name__ == "__main__":
[21:47] <prahlad>     t=[1,2,3,4]
[21:47] <prahlad>     print "type",t
[21:47] <FloodBot1> prahlad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <prahlad>     s = pickle.dumps(t)
[21:47] <wheatthin> Prock81, http://askubuntu.com/questions/305719/nvidia-x-server-sudo-nvidia-config-does-not-generate-a-working-xorg-config
[21:47] <Prock81> updates dont have it
[21:48] <wheatthin> yes it does.
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> prahlad  ask in #python
[21:49] <IdleOne> Prock81: look for Additional Drivers in Software Center
[21:49] <Prock81> how
[21:50] <wheatthin> check out the link I sent you Prock81
[21:50] <mwmisner> @prock81 not sure if this is helpful but if you are using the optimus, a good place to start for the drivers would be  the bumble bee drivers, http://bumblebee-project.org/
[21:50] <IdleOne> Prock81: by running the Software Center and looking for Additional drivers
[21:50] <Baribal_> Hi. Shell noob question, how do I ls only non-directories?
[21:50] <Prock81> someone helped me before , they took me to a direct link to a particulre file on the ninvida site
[21:51] <Prock81> and that fixed it
[21:51] <Prock81> but i dont remember what
[21:51] <wheatthin> Prock81, if it was previously installed from the site you'll have to uninstall it first
[21:51] <Prock81> Baribal_ man ls
[21:52] <Prock81> $man ls
[21:52] <Baribal_> Prock81, I'm noob, but not so noob as not to read man pages before asking questions that basic. :)
[21:52] <Baribal_> If it's in there, I'm blind to it.
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Baribal_  beginner, not noob or n00b
[21:54] <Baribal_> Okay, newbie. :)
[21:54] <wheatthin> same difference MonkeyDust
[21:54] <wheatthin> ;0
[21:55] <Baribal_> wheatthin, to split the hair into four equal parts: http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20060823-d025d.jpg
[21:57] <wheatthin> same thing. just gamers try to act cool and spell it differently
[21:57] <wheatthin> anywho..
[21:57] <wheatthin> Prock81,
[21:57] <Prock81> do what
[21:57] <wheatthin> i think you need to use the .run file you used to install the nvidia drivers in the first place
[21:57] <Prock81> spwll what
[21:58] <wheatthin> and run it with   --uninstall option
[21:58] <Prock81> i can say but not spell ninvidea
[21:58] <wheatthin> nvidia
[21:58] <Prock81> oooh
[21:58] <guntbert> wheatthin: Prock81 back to support please
[21:59] <wheatthin> guntbert, no kidding, what do you think I'm doing?
[22:02] <Magicarp> I downloaded my steam games on a 32bit installation of ubuntu. I plan to re-install ubuntu but this time use 64bit. Can I still run my games or do I have to re-download them?
[22:02] <wheatthin> Magicarp, you have to redownload them.
[22:02] <wheatthin> as the install directory requires them to be empty.. I tried just recently
[22:03] <savio> Anyone?
[22:04] <daftykins> Magicarp: most of the games will probably be 32-bit. just try them! :)
[22:04] <Magicarp> In that case I may just stick to 32bits. There's no massive performance gain stepping up to 64 right?
[22:04] <wheatthin> daftykins, in order for them to show up in steamapps, they must be reinstalled
[22:04] <wheatthin> Magicarp, just being able to use highmem
[22:05] <daftykins> wheatthin: not if you keep the cache.
[22:05] <Yonderfork> Is this a good place for me to ask for help?
[22:05] <wheatthin> here, Yonderfork
[22:05] <daftykins> Magicarp: it's more about addressing more RAM
[22:05] <daftykins> Yonderfork: yes ask away on one line please
[22:06] <Yonderfork> Ok, so I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 off of a live CD, and when I try to plug it into the S-Video the display goes wack.
[22:07] <wheatthin> Yonderfork, why using s-video on livecd/
[22:07] <kepler_> What hardware?
[22:07] <Magicarp> I do have 8GB of ram. If I use pae then the games will use all my ram right?
[22:07] <Yonderfork> I'll check. It's fairly old.
[22:08] <savio> How do I get kernel 3.5 ?
[22:08] <wheatthin> Magicarp, no, it'll just allow you to use your ram, but 32bit addressing still applies
[22:08] <daftykins> Magicarp: a single program might not be able to use a lot, but that'll be fine yeah
[22:11] <nineteen67comet> Hi all .. I'm looking for a way to use a bash script or something to limit the time my boys are logged in. (right now I ssh in, start screen and do shutdown -r 60 so they each have an hour) .. ideas?
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> savio  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> well, that's my new custom Ubuntu all set up with KDE using the minimal CD.  Or as I like to call it, Arch without the hassle :D
[22:12] <daftykins> nineteen67comet: why not have that run as a login script on their user accounts so it's auto timed?
[22:13] <daftykins> nineteen67comet: create it as a script in the home dir maybe, then add it as a startup application
[22:13] <nineteen67comet> daftykins: they aren't admins on the account so they'd need sudo shutdown ---- .. wouldnt' they?
[22:14] <deanclkclk> I am trying to press "printscr" on my laptop to do a screen shot
[22:14] <daftykins> nineteen67comet: oh, true.
[22:14] <deanclkclk> why isn't ubuntu firing the save .png dialog?
[22:14] <daftykins> deanclkclk: sure it's not an 'Fn' key given it's a laptop?
[22:15] <savio> MonkeyDust: I know kernel compilation I just want deb package for 3.5 kernel i think kernel PPA might help but they don't have ubuntu patches will installing this will OK
[22:15] <nineteen67comet> deanclkclk: shouldn't hitting the prt scrn button or alt+prt scrn create a screenshot to your clip board?
[22:15] <deanclkclk> I press the prt scrn button nothing happens
[22:18] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, it saves the image to your ~/Pictures folder
[22:18] <deanclkclk> foudn it thanks
[22:18] <nineteen67comet> wheatthin: ditto to deanclkclk
[22:19] <deanclkclk> http://tinypic.com/r/2m4zyx2/5
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> savio  scroll down, is this useful... don't forget to backup, first     http://techpp.com/2012/07/23/download-linux-kernel-3-5/
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> savio  i guess a lot of features won't be available anymore in 13.04, if you use an older kernel
[22:21] <daftykins> deanclkclk: so are you asking about that error?
[22:22] <deanclkclk> wrong irc but, sure
[22:22] <savio> MonkeyDust:  what features ? Can you name few I care more about security of my system
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> savio  i can't, just be careful
[22:23] <daftykins> deanclkclk: ah nah i was just going to say a ruby chan might be more appropriate :D
[22:24] <savio> MonkeyDust:  thanks for your help
[22:25] <savio> I will be careful if anything goes wrong I can still get back to my old kernal
[22:26] <wheatthin> savio, ehh.. i'd be sure on that
[22:29] <HeadcaseFargone> Can anyone help me with this mdadm.conf file?  Looking at mine it doesn't appear to contain any information about my RAID5 array that's been running for the past year or so.  I tried the "mdadm --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm.conf" command, but now it only has "https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Saving_your_RAID_configuration" for information on the array.  I was under the impression
[22:29] <HeadcaseFargone> it would have individual dev IDs for the component drives.
[22:29] <HeadcaseFargone> Err, that obviously didn't paste properly
[22:30] <HeadcaseFargone> "ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2 name=MediaNew:0
[22:30] <rickb> http://99chan.org/99/src/135918275840.jpg
[22:31] <rickb> oops
[22:32] <kyconquers> I followed the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/openldap-server.html#openldap-server-replication to set up a master/slave replication, but now my consumer is logging the error <got search entry without Sync State control> and is not up to date.
[22:32] <kyconquers> is this a problem on my provider's configs or on the consumer's?
[22:34] <holstein> kyconquers: is the error valid? is it up to date?
[22:40] <kyconquers> holstein, the consumer is not up to date
[22:40] <anonnumberanon> can't install flashplugin-installer and error says "Could not apply changes, Fix broken packages first!" 13.04
[22:41] <holstein> kyconquers: how about updating it?
[22:41] <kyconquers> it has not pulled any of the ous inerOrgPersons or the groups from the provider
[22:42] <holstein> anonnumberanon: you need help fixing them? you can run sudo apt-get update in a terminal and share the exact error
[22:42] <kyconquers> holstein, do I have to update it manually?
[22:42] <anonnumberanon> holstein, thanks I will
[22:42] <area51pilot> i cant browse a Windows network in 13.04 x64 ... any possible help here?
[22:42] <holstein> kyconquers: i dont use the product.. but if the error message is 'its out of date', and it is.. id just try and get it up to date
[22:43] <anonnumberanon> holstein, ah, it would seem the password I set does not work for super user
[22:43] <holstein> area51pilot: can you ping the machine? is it a firewall issue? what i do is go backwards.. i make windows connect to my ssh shares on linux
[22:43] <area51pilot> yes
[22:43] <kyconquers> holstein, the whole point of it is that is should pull any and all update though. it should make itself a copy of that information.
[22:43] <area51pilot> i get Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from server: No such file or directory
[22:44] <area51pilot> ive had this issue in past releases
[22:44] <area51pilot> cant seem to fix it this time
[22:44] <holstein> kyconquers: well, if its out of date, its out of date.. wehre do you get this product? do "they" provide support?
[22:44] <area51pilot> I can browse a Windows domain but not a local home workgroup anymore
[22:44] <holstein> area51pilot: try gigolo..
[22:44] <holstein> !info gigolo
[22:45] <holstein> area51pilot: could be you just dont have the samba packages you need
[22:45] <daftykins> area51pilot: checked you have smbclient installed?
[22:45] <area51pilot> I dont know what id be missing
[22:45] <kyconquers> holstein, very little, I did a apt-get to download the package. also the out of date part is not part of the error message.
[22:46] <holstein> kyconquers: share the error message
[22:46] <kyconquers> got search entry without Sync State control
[22:46] <area51pilot> i have smbclient
[22:46] <holstein> error <got search entry without Sync State  control> and is not up to date?
[22:46] <holstein> ^^ correct?
[22:46] <ripoz> area51pilot: was it a new install or upgrade? On an upgrade, one of the cifs (samba) packages does NOT get upadted due to bug, and needs to be manualyl loaded
[22:46] <kyconquers> slapd[31020]: do_syncrep2: rid=000 got search entry without Sync State control (dc=example,dc=com)
[22:46] <holstein> kyconquers: what application is this? what is a "consumer" ?
[22:47] <area51pilot> 13.04 was a new install a few months ago
[22:47] <kyconquers> holstein, it is ldap. a consumer is a slave that replicates the ldap database master.
[22:47] <kyconquers> so that the database can scale.
[22:48] <ripoz> area51pilot: you are setup to join both a domain (e.g at office) and a workgroup (e.g. at home)?
[22:48] <holstein> kyconquers: that is very specific.. and i wouldnt expect to get support here for the issue you have.. have you tried a server channel?
[22:48] <area51pilot> i access domain shares at work
[22:48] <holstein> kyconquers: i would first address the easy part.. update what is out of date
[22:48] <kyconquers> holstein, yes, no response.
[22:48] <area51pilot> used to be able to see Win 7 shares on home network but not anymore
[22:48] <ripoz> area51pilot: At home, can you ping your server?
[22:49] <kyconquers> holstein, thank you anyways. :)
[22:49] <ripoz> area51pilot: The home server, i mean!
[22:49] <area51pilot> home network has no server ... its just a workgroup
[22:49] <area51pilot> and i can ping all machines on network
[22:49] <ripoz> area51pilot: Yes, can you ping the servers on it (i.e. the other machines)
[22:49] <area51pilot> i can
[22:49] <ripoz> area51pilot: by the name you're using in mount? or just by ip?
[22:50] <daftykins> area51pilot: use smbclient in a terminal to test confirm you can auth to a Windows box on your LAN and view contents of a share
[22:50] <area51pilot> i have a few machines I backup files to from other clients
[22:50] <area51pilot> ripoz ping by ip
[22:50] <ripoz> area51pilot: Usually when this happens, it is name resolution
[22:50] <HeadcaseFargone> Can anyone tell me why my mdadm.conf file would contain no references to the component drives in a RAID5 array?
[22:51] <ripoz> area51pilot: So can you try by name? Using the same name as you're trying for cifs?
[22:52] <area51pilot> whats the ping syntax using the name  ... ex.  ping Fileserver
[22:52] <Guest22721> I've installed ubuntu server on a virtual box on an ubuntu desktop host. I can ping from guest to host, but not from host to guest.. is there anything about ubuntu or virtual box?
[22:52] <ripoz> area51pilot: exactly that. if myserver is 192.168.1.1 then you can eitehr "ping 192.168.1.1" which we know works, or just "ping myserver"
[22:53] <area51pilot> thats what i thought but i get the following reply "update encrypted"
[22:53] <area51pilot> never seen that b4
[22:53] <daftykins> you get that from a ping attempt? O_O
[22:53] <area51pilot> yes
[22:53] <area51pilot> weird
[22:54] <ripoz> area51pilot: it doenst respond?
[22:54] <area51pilot> Ignoring unknown parameter 'update encrypted" to be exact
[22:54] <Guest22721> haha, just checking network connectivity
[22:54] <ripoz> area51pilot: I assume when you mount SMB, you are using the machine name, right?
[22:54] <area51pilot> no typical reply or no reply type response
[22:55] <area51pilot> machine name or ip ... neither works
[22:55] <ripoz> area51pilot: So the issue is name resolution: It can' convert name to IP. Try to use the IP instead of the name when connecting to share
[22:55] <daftykins> area51pilot: sounds more like your interface isn't configured
[22:55] <ripoz> oh you can't connect cia IP eiher?
[22:55] <ripoz> If you cant ping by IP, something is broke for sure
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> check routing
[22:56] <ripoz> ok i'll stop here, it's not a samba issue, it's a linux network issue. i can fix the first, not the second.
[22:57] <area51pilot> i had a previous machine ip in the recent list ... it brings up the logon crredential box when i try to connect but now it just kicks back to the login ... even though credentials are correct
[22:57] <area51pilot> i tried that and no luck as well
[22:58] <area51pilot> should i completely remove samba and associated packages
[22:58] <area51pilot> and try from scratch
[22:58] <holstein> area51pilot: how did gigolo work?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[22:58] <anonnumberanon> holstein, Failed to fetch gzip: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-amd64_packages   Hash Sum mismatch
[22:59] <daftykins> area51pilot: everything coming back correctly from 'ifconfig -a' ?
[22:59] <anonnumberanon> holstein, this was after doing apt-get upodate
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: you can the authorise on the server side as your username using the password you set
[22:59] <area51pilot> holstein ... rejects the correct password
[23:00] <area51pilot> on the host machine Action???  yes I can
[23:00] <area51pilot> as well as from Windows clients
[23:01] <area51pilot> daftykins ... from what i can see yes
[23:01] <ghking>  hello，everyone。I want to know  what is usbhdd,is it a booting program just like grub.
[23:01] <resizt0r> I have been trying to get my external hdd shared on my windows network (using xubuntu 13.04) and it almost works.  But I have to type the IP address to my linux machine in the address bar of the windows explorer in order to access it..
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: on the server side, so you can set the credentials on the sever side
[23:01] <daftykins> area51pilot: can you ping *any* box on the LAN?
[23:01] <resizt0r> if i select the computer name which shows up in the list in the homegroup and select the share (which shows up) it says i dont have permission
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: you can tell your OSes to store the password you set
[23:02] <area51pilot> daftykinis ... by IP ... yes
[23:02] <area51pilot> but not by host name
[23:02] <ripoz> area51pilot: You told me you cuoldn't ping by ip
[23:02] <holstein> area51pilot: the credentials could be bad
[23:02] <daftykins> area51pilot: that's not surprising. tends to act like that until SAMBA is running and sharing some windows chatter network conversation
[23:02] <area51pilot> Action ... my problem is seeing Windows shares from 13.04
[23:02] <daftykins> and even then i'm not sure
[23:02] <area51pilot> not the other way around
[23:02] <daftykins> resizt0r: sounds like a samba configuration thing
[23:03] <area51pilot> i can ping by ip no problem
[23:03] <ripoz> area51pilot: If that informaton was incorrect, and you can ping by ip, you proabbly need to just enable NTLM encryption on cifs
[23:03] <resizt0r> well im a linux newb and i've changed and re-changed the settings about fifty times this week
[23:03] <daftykins> resizt0r: on the Windows clients, why not just map a drive and forget about it? no more manual browsing...
[23:03] <area51pilot> can ping the windows 7 machine by host name
[23:03] <resizt0r> so i wouldnt be surprized
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: does your windows user have a password?
[23:03] <area51pilot> Action
[23:03] <area51pilot> yes
[23:03] <area51pilot> ripoz ok ill look that up
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: afyer typing 'action' press TAB.
[23:04] <area51pilot> ??
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: it autocompletes my nick and will highlight my nick like I am to you
[23:05] <resizt0r> because every time i reboot the router the mapped drive will be retarded
[23:05] <area51pilot> ActionParsnip, ok thx  :)
[23:05] <resizt0r> because every time the router is reset the IP address changes
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: magic huh
[23:05] <resizt0r> and my girlfriend wouldnt have a clue in the world how to figure out my ip address
[23:05] <area51pilot> learn something new everyday
[23:05] <area51pilot> cool
[23:05] <area51pilot> ActionParsnip, you helped me a few times in the past ... i appreciate the forums a lot
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: do you have a firewall blocking the connection?
[23:06] <area51pilot> no
[23:06] <area51pilot> ActionParsnip,  when Im at work O can see machines on the Windows Domain just fine
[23:07] <area51pilot> i used to have this issue on 12.04 and 12.10 and was able to fix ...c ant seem to this time
[23:07] <resizt0r> i absolutely love linux since i switched from windows, but networking on it is just plain outrageous
[23:07] <resizt0r> seems like in terms of making an OS easy for windows users to migrate over to networking would be their top priority as far as developing software
[23:07] <area51pilot> In the past it was usually modifying the smb.cfg  files in a few areas
[23:08] <resizt0r> these days everyone needs everything in their homes networked seemlessly
[23:08] <daftykins> resizt0r: you should be running a static IP on your system so as to prevent mapped drives being an issue.
[23:08] <resizt0r> it never was an issue on windows
[23:08] <daftykins> resizt0r: indeed, networking knowledge is becoming very useful
[23:09] <daftykins> resizt0r: i bet your router has a feature for static allocation via DHCP
[23:09] <resizt0r> yes
[23:09] <resizt0r> it is a cisco
[23:09] <resizt0r> it has a wide variety of options
[23:09] <ripoz> area51pilot: smb.cfg? i assume you mean smb.conf.. that's on a samba server. your workgroup is linux?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> resizt0r: never had an issue with networking in either OS
[23:10] <yakster> what is your issue with cisco….
[23:10] <resizt0r> well my degree is not in networking
[23:10] <area51pilot> ripoz, yes ...  :P    file extension slipped me at the moment
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> resizr0r: incidentally, mine is ;-)
[23:10] <yakster> <<-- Runs Cisco 1861 in the home…
[23:10] <dELta34> hey guys
[23:10] <resizt0r> i am network-tarded
[23:11] <area51pilot> my workgroup is windows based
[23:11] <resizt0r> i dont even have a clue what dhcp is
[23:11] <area51pilot> im the black sheep running linux
[23:11] <area51pilot> :P
[23:11] <resizt0r> all i know is that my ip changes every time i restart my router
[23:11] <yakster> Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol
[23:11] <resizt0r> which happens often due to several users torrenting and overloading it
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> resiztpr: i buy hardware known to work out of the box, even my wifi works with no effort at all
[23:11] <daftykins> resizt0r: the feature of the router which issues IPs when your computers start up
[23:12] <ripoz> area51pilot: see thats twice now had conflicting information. You said your workgroup was running linux? Now you say it's windows?
[23:12] <linusoleander> I'm trying to install a nginx in Ubuntu but getting this error
[23:12] <linusoleander> https://gist.github.com/oleander/efdf55ec7372884cf17c
[23:12] <yakster> It is noce to have hardware that "Just Works" but when it stops working…. what do you do?
[23:12] <yakster> google it… got it…
[23:12] <area51pilot> ripoz,  it is Windows workgroup at home
[23:12] <resizt0r> mine is a cisco e3200
[23:12] <dELta34> is there anyone who knows backtrack's irc server?
[23:12] <area51pilot> im on 13.04 trying to access shares on Windows clients
[23:12] <daftykins> dELta34: google it.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> yakster: is use duckduckgo...but yeah
[23:13] <ripoz> area51pilot: So how do you have a smb.conf file?
[23:13] <area51pilot> they are shared with full access and known credentials
[23:13] <resizt0r> hell after all the hassle trying to access my share on this machine from windows there is no way in hell im gonna try figuring out how to access windows shares from here
[23:13] <area51pilot> ripoz, yes ... and have made some edits
[23:13] <area51pilot> added wins and winbind recently
[23:13] <daftykins> resizt0r: should be pretty easy :) smb://IP/share in a nautilus window :D
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> resizt0r: i use sftp, android phone accesses it from any network using andftp
[23:14] <yakster> hopefully there are no spaces in the share name…
[23:14] <ripoz> area51pilot: Why do you have an smb.conf file?
[23:14] <area51pilot> also added:  name resolve order = bcast host
[23:14] <resizt0r> i need my nintendo wii to be able to have access to it
[23:14] <resizt0r> and 2 windows pc's
[23:14] <resizt0r> and 2 android phones
[23:15] <area51pilot> for shares on my 13.04 machine
[23:15] <resizt0r> and the programs that use the share on nintendo wii cant use an ftp program to access it
[23:15] <resizt0r> they werent programmed to do that
[23:15] <ripoz> area51pilot: and which way are you connecting?
[23:16] <area51pilot> from nautilus ... connect to server ( which is the ip of the windows client im trying to access)
[23:16] <ripoz> area51pilot: are you asking us how connect linux client to windows share, or windows client to linuxhosted windows share
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> resizt0r: try mediatomb etc. I only use sftp for security. depends what your wii can connect to
[23:16] <daftykins> resizt0r: the wii needs to use a share from your ubuntu desktop? also please press enter less, makes things harder to follow
[23:16] <resizt0r> the media player is fine
[23:16] <resizt0r> it can use ftp
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> resizt0r: yeah figures as much
[23:17] <area51pilot> linux client to a windows share
[23:17] <resizt0r> i guess i could just hook the network share drive to the router directly
[23:17] <area51pilot> i can get the authentication box but when i eneter the credentials it just comes back up with the credential box again
[23:17] <area51pilot> and i can verify the credentials are correct
[23:18] <lnxusr> hi everyone
[23:18] <area51pilot> thats using the "Connect to server" method
[23:18] <area51pilot> i also used to be able to browse the windows network and see clients which i can no longer do
[23:18] <area51pilot> i get unable to retrieve list from the server
[23:18] <resizt0r> so if i disable the dhcp server
[23:18] <resizt0r> will my ip stay the same even if i turn the router off and back on?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> resizt0r: depends on the router
[23:19] <daftykins> resizt0r: no devices would be able to connect, you can't disable it
[23:19] <daftykins> you won't have an IP at all
[23:19] <daftykins> because the router won't give one out
[23:19] <ripoz> area51pilot: i am almocst certain that means you need to a) sync the username and password, and b) enable NTLM encryption. look at lanman auth or ntlm auth in your config
[23:19] <daftykins> resizt0r: if you can either screenshot the DHCP page of your router's web admin - if it has one - or find some images of its' pages online for me, i can help
[23:20] <lnxusr> i need a guru in lubuntu, i need to do some questions
[23:20] <area51pilot> can you tell me how to enable NTLM
[23:20] <resizt0r> screenshot coming up
[23:20] <ripoz> area51pilot: I dont remember the exact method for it, you can google that though
[23:20] <wutang> evening folks
[23:21] <exo7ron> hello
[23:21] <area51pilot> ripoz, ok
[23:22] <davisamo>  #saltstack
[23:23] <aguitel> how to send direct messages with polly (twitter client)
[23:25] <resizt0r> ok here is my router DHCP page, http://oi41.tinypic.com/dcg40y.jpg
[23:30] <daftykins> resizt0r: for future reference alt+print-screen does an active window only, which is handy for posting
[23:30] <resizt0r> wow, didnt know that
[23:31] <daftykins> resizt0r: there we go, 'DHCP reservation' button
[23:31] <daftykins> click that and screenshot what you get, i'd expect a page where you can enter MAC addresses and IP addresses to always give a given MAC
[23:34] <resizt0r> that alt+print screen isnt working
[23:34] <resizt0r> but i maximized it for ease of eyes
[23:35] <wutang> reizt0r, what on earth are you trying to do\/
[23:35] <wutang> reizt0r, what on earth are you trying to do*?
[23:36] <resizt0r> http://oi39.tinypic.com/2s7c9z9.jpg
[23:36] <wutang> yes I've seen that iamge
[23:36] <wutang> *image
[23:36] <wutang> what are you trying to do\/
[23:36] <wutang> ?
[23:36] <FloodBot1> wutang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:36] <resizt0r> just trying to make my network work
[23:37] <d4rkn30> anyone wanna tell me why i download updates slow compared to downloading them via HTTP
[23:37] <wutang> need a bit more information resizt0r, like what in particular isn't working
[23:37] <daftykins> wutang: i already have this one, please don't interfere
[23:38] <wutang> chill daftykins
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> !details > d4rkn30
[23:38] <daftykins> resizt0r: can you see how it works then? a MAC address is a unique code specific to every network 'card' (wired/wireless)
[23:38] <resizt0r> yeah i know that much
[23:38] <resizt0r> so i just select each device i want to keep the same ip right
[23:38] <resizt0r> and save it?
[23:38] <daftykins> resizt0r: so you can select your PC with the tickbox as you've done, select 'add clients' then pick an IP address to always give it
[23:39] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee: so when i download updates via terminal od the updater i download at 50kb/s max whereas i download something of a webpage i get 600kb/s
[23:40] <mujahadean> man
[23:40] <mujahadean> look at this last convo there -> https://gist.github.com/deanclkclk/5843131
[23:40] <resizt0r> sweet
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> d4rkn30, You can change the repo to the fastest in software sources, may just be that link. Speed is always at the whim of where you are getting it basically.
[23:41] <resizt0r> so now my printer wont keep getting new ip's either, so i dont have to keep setting it up every time
[23:41] <mujahadean> mujahadean	popl: I saw this but, why do I need a dev package
[23:41] <mujahadean> 	popl	because ubuntu is a piece of shit
[23:41] <mujahadean> 	mujahadean	I am already running ->ruby 1.9.3p194(2012-04-20)
[23:41] <mujahadean> 	popl	ubuntu split the ruby stuff into different packages
[23:41] <mujahadean> 	mujahadean	u sure it's ubuntu and not ruby?
[23:41] <FloodBot1> mujahadean: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <daftykins> resizt0r: to be honest i would recommend you statically configure all network devices anyway. it's how anyone who is anyone with networking does it
[23:42] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee, i know its odd tho because i chose the closest server and it still gives me the same thing
[23:42] <bigroomsmallhous> what are good irc settings to prevent ddos? running gnome xchat
[23:42] <resizt0r> thanks man that helps a lot
[23:43] <resizt0r> well my phones and wii i dont think really matter
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> d4rkn30, I can only suggest running the tool in software sources for finding a faster download, I'm in the pacific NW, there is a ubuntu repo at my college, a Norwegian sever is much faster.
[23:43] <mujahadean> why does ubuntu split ruby between dev and actual packages?
[23:43] <mujahadean> it does make any sense
[23:43] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee, will do thanks mate
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> close does not mean faster basically, no problem d4rkn30
[23:44] <daftykins> resizt0r: nah, i tend to keep mobile devices DHCP and static devices static :D so printers, desktop PCs, things that won't ever leave that LAN
[23:44] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee, also on another note does Xubuntu 13.04 support the piratepack ?
[23:44] <bigroomsmallhous> what are good irc settings to prevent ddos? running gnome xchat?
[23:45] <resizt0r> u could always just turn on your firewall
[23:45] <ripoz> d4rkn30: xubuntu should be the same as ubuntu, except for the desktop
[23:45] <Nitro> hey everyone!
[23:46] <d4rkn30> ripoz, i know that lol, i was just meaning the package more specificly
[23:46] <Guest65569> I was wondering how to add the classic Menu list to Ubuntu 13.04?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> d4rkn30, The channel basically can't support that if it's the Pbay pack
[23:46] <daftykins> d4rkn30: i'd just experiment with mirrors in your situation, seems a bit weird though.
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> never heard of it I had to google to get that far
[23:47] <bigroomsmallhous> what are good irc settings to prevent ddos? running gnome xchat
[23:47] <d4rkn30> daftykins, yeah i know but it could be all based on my inet aswell
[23:48] <shankstaBytes> when connecting via ssh how can i tell my ssh client to overwrite a known host?
[23:48] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee, yeah it it tpb's pack and thanks
[23:48] <daftykins> d4rkn30: i can't think why a given ISP or router would somehow affect downloading packages in Ubuntu vs. HTTP - i take it wget'ing from the same source as apt-get does affects the speed too?
[23:49] <daftykins> shankstaBytes: possibly -f for forcing, i'd read the man page. or just edit your config to remove the old host
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, Some of those ubuntu repos are slower than others, could be a problem in between who knows.
[23:49] <Guest65569> is there any way to show a basic Menu List in 13.04?
[23:50] <d4rkn30> daftykins, You have no idea what Xplornet does to its internet, I.E: Throtles connection Torrenting is useless etc. and no wget downloads at max.
[23:50] <daftykins> Guest65569: menu list for... what?
[23:50] <Guest65569> daftykins, apps programs games etc
[23:50] <daftykins> d4rkn30: i understand peer to peer protocol throttling, but not package downloading
[23:50] <ripoz> d4rkn30: if there's nothing in there that requires unity, it should work: xubuntu and ubuntu have a common core
[23:51] <Nitro_> daftykins, kind of like the start menu in windows
[23:51] <daftykins> Nitro_: ah, no idea then sorry :(
[23:51] <d4rkn30> daftykins, i know but it does it from any terminal in any distro
[23:51] <daftykins> Nitro_: sounds more like you want to be running Mint XD
[23:52] <Nitro_> daftykins, well its in Lubuntu.. thought i could add it somehow
[23:52] <daftykins> d4rkn30: perhaps the ISP can't distinguish between packages and illegal activity
[23:52] <ripoz> Nitro_: Mint can do it: but you can just hit the win key and type in the program name in 13.04, and it will find and launch it
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> those mint desktops are in the ubuntu repos
[23:52] <Nitro_> daftykins, ripoz yea the point is I just want to be able to see ALL my programs
[23:53] <d4rkn30> Nitro_, just click on list all programs ?
[23:53] <ripoz> Nitro_: You can do that still in the hud, but they just ldisplay different
[23:53] <Nitro_> d4rkn30, where is list all programs?
[23:53] <ripoz> Nitro_: click filter results at the right of the search box
[23:54] <ripoz> Nitro_: Sorry, i forgot, click the 'a' icon at the bottom first
[23:54] <daftykins> d4rkn30: if you proxy'd via a friend on a different ISP and tested package download speeds then, that'd be interesting
[23:56] <Nitro_> ripoz, SWEET thank you, also Secret Maryo wont run, any ideas?
[23:56] <ripoz> d4rkn30: I gave up messing with WAN support years ago, there are so many companies, in so many countries, that could affect a connection, it's not really hard unless you work for at least one of them and therefore have access to a direct line to the people you need to yell at
[23:56] <ripoz> *not really possible
[23:57] <d4rkn30> well that sucks >.< Update fails
[23:57] <HeadcaseFargone> New question: If I allow 11.10 to upgrade to 12.04 using Update Manager, will any of my settings be overwritten?  For instance I have Unity turned off, etc.  Will I lose those settings when I upgrade?
[23:57] <daftykins> i didn't think 11.10 had Unity.
[23:58] <ripoz> d4rkn30: Remeber when google went dark worldwide because an ISP in Pakistan made a configuration error ...
[23:58] <HeadcaseFargone> It had a horrible interface when I installed it, I remember that much.  I believe it was Unity.
[23:58] <ripoz> daftykins: It did, but it didnt work properly in those days
[23:58] <d4rkn30> ripoz, Yea that was awful
[23:58] <jrib> HeadcaseFargone: if by "turned off" you mean not the default session, sure
[23:58] <daftykins> ripoz: it works properly now?
[23:58] <HeadcaseFargone> Well, when I boot the desktop looks like it did under 10.04 with my current settings
[23:58] <daftykins> :D
[23:59] <ripoz> i tink unity was optional in 11.04 and compulsory in 11.10 but didn work properly. 12.04 it worked. 13.04 it finally got task switching back and it's ok now
[23:59] <ripoz> daftykins: Yes unity works now
[23:59] <daftykins> ripoz: it was a joke but ok
[23:59] <HeadcaseFargone> It was very slow on this low power box as well
[23:59] <ripoz> daftykins: rememeber "works" is a subjective term :-)
[23:59] <d4rkn30> i never really liked unity myself