[09:14] <gartral> morning all, i'm in a bind, I had to nuke my ~/.pulse directory and now none of my sound systems can load up, any advice?
[09:21] <contrapunctus-i> ^Whatever on earth required you to do that? o.O
[09:22] <gartral> it was a suggestion from a forum to get pulse and jack playing nicely with each-other
[09:23] <gartral> but since doing so, my system has reverted back to alsa as it's sound server, and I really want pulse back
[09:24] <gartral> contrapunctus-i: this is what happens when attempting to start pulse http://paste.ubuntu.com/5789151/
[09:27] <contrapunctus-i> gartral  - He isn't online atm and I'm sure others could help too, but try looking for falktx on #opensourcemusicians. He's generally more knowledgeable about this stuff.
[09:28] <contrapunctus-i> Strange.
[09:28] <contrapunctus-i> Was JACK running when you tried running pulse?
[09:29] <gartral> contrapunctus-i: no, it spits a different error then, one moment
[09:30] <gartral> contrapunctus-i: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5789161/
[09:30] <contrapunctus-i> I assume you have the PA-JACK plugin installed? o.O
[09:31] <gartral> yes
[09:32] <contrapunctus-i> Well, I'm afraid anything I'd suggest wouldn't be likely to work, I'm not too experienced with JACK fixing. Do try #opensourcemusicians though. Failing which, the linuxmusicians.com forums.
[09:32] <contrapunctus-i> Sorry I'm not much help :\
[09:33] <contrapunctus-i> gartral - Are you using qjackctl or Cadence? o.O
[09:35] <gartral> nope, and I've never heard of cadence before
[09:38] <gartral> well I found Part of the issue!
[09:38] <gartral> the default user isn't in the audi group at creation
[09:38] <contrapunctus-i> It's worth trying. Manages jack, alsa-jack, alsa midi-jack midi, and pulse audio-jack bridges effortlessly.
[09:38] <contrapunctus-i> Oh. lol
[09:39] <gartral> contrapunctus-i: doesn't appear to be in the repos
[09:39] <contrapunctus-i> Strange, for this to be an issue on a ubuntu studio system :\
[09:40] <gartral> 13.04 fresh install, happened while setting up and testing
[09:40] <contrapunctus-i> gartral - http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Downloads
[09:45] <gartral> contrapunctus-i: how many computers do you use in your studio?
[09:46] <contrapunctus-i> Just one laptop, and it's more of a bedroom atm :))
[09:47] <gartral> lol, well if you ever have a multi-system setup, take a look into synergy (www.synergy-foss.org)
[09:47] <contrapunctus-i> O.o
[09:48] <gartral> it allows you to use one keyboard and mouse to command multiple systems, and it works really fluidly
[09:49] <contrapunctus-i> Wow, not bad. :D If I ever use a non-Linux system with netjack, to act as a sampler (because Linux doesn't support Kontakt and VSL...yet)...I'll certainly use it :) Thanks ^^
[09:50] <gartral> yep, I have a laptop o my desk next to my monitor, basically my notebook is now an "Autonomous second display"
[09:51] <contrapunctus-i> Nice :)
[12:46] <OvenWerks> gartral: that second message when pulse sets up the pa-jack bridge is pretty normal and generally pulse still runs and bridges
[12:49] <OvenWerks> gartral: are you trying to load module-jack-source manually? I would expect the first error if jackdbus was not running at the time
[12:50] <OvenWerks> The module you want loaded in pulse is module-jackdbus-detect
[12:51] <OvenWerks> qjackctl should not be a problem
[12:52] <OvenWerks> installing yet another jack controler will probably not help
[13:37] <raven_> hi
[13:38] <raven_> my rme digi9652 is locked by anything on every startup - how to unlock it to use it with jack
[13:38] <cfhowlett> raven_, greetings
[13:40] <islandmonkey> Hello, I was doing some (failed) MIDI recording earlier through JACK. Unfortunately, it now seems that Ubuntu only wants to run audio through JACK, as playing an audio file through Audacity with ALSA being used results in silence. How can I get Ubuntu back to using ALSA for audio?
[13:42] <raven_> islandmonkey, did you reboot already? perhaps jack hang up and locked alsa
[13:43] <islandmonkey> I'll try rebooting again. See everyone in a mo.
[13:56] <islandmonkey> Well a reboot means audio can work through ALSA now. Good
[13:59] <islandmonkey> Also, forgot to ask one other question - why are all my MIDI recordings in Qtractor silent?
[14:03] <raven_> perhaps lost routing?
[14:07] <islandmonkey> Hmm, routing seems fine
[14:08] <islandmonkey> These midi files are suspiciously low in size as well
[14:12] <jeevanus> hi
[14:13] <jeevanus> can some one help for connecting my USB Modem?
[14:14] <islandmonkey> jeevanus: Sounds like a generic Ubuntu question. Please head to #ubuntu
[14:14] <jeevanus> no answer from them
[14:17] <islandmonkey> Well this is the wrong place to answer such question. Perhaps consider adding more detail to your question, for example, the name of the modem, the version of Ubuntu you're running etc. and people might be more inclined to answer it.
[15:51] <paddy> hello
[15:51] <holstein> o/
[15:54] <paddy> is ubuntu studio 12.04 completely identical to ubuntu 12.04 just with additional packages and an optimized kernel?
[15:55] <holstein> its not identical in any way
[15:55] <holstein> ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu
[15:55] <holstein> there are different out of the box defaults and applications installed.. and configurations (though not many) for audio production
[15:56] <paddy> mhh ...
[17:09] <antto> can ubuntustudio be used to burn a CD?
[17:24] <OvenWerks> antto: yes
[17:24] <OvenWerks> what kind exactly do you want to do?
[17:25] <antto> i have a CD writer, gotta plug it to this computer first tho
[17:25] <antto> i want to burn a linux live .iso on it
[17:26] <antto> ehm, on a CD
[17:26] <OvenWerks> is the iso smaller than 700mb?
[17:26] <OvenWerks> ubuntustudio will not fit on a CD
[17:27] <SonikkuAmerica> The Ubuntu Studio image is >2 GB
[17:27] <antto> yeah, it's ~570MB
[17:28] <antto> no, it's some other linux
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> antto: Which one?
[17:28] <antto> i need to use avrdude on my ancient machine, because it has a 25-pin printer port which i need to use
[17:28] <OvenWerks> ok brasero should work fine then
[17:29] <antto> SonikkuAmerica: http://www.das-labor.org/wiki/AVR-Live-CD/en
[17:29] <antto> this one
[17:29] <OvenWerks> but do not use context to open it :) there is a bug with that
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> antto: Oh
[17:29] <OvenWerks> open brasero from the menu
[17:30] <antto> not yet, i gotta get my cd-writer, shut this machine down, set it up, boot
[17:30] <antto> brb
[17:47] <antto> okay, do ineed to touch any settings?
[17:47] <antto> selected my iso, it detected the cd-writer and empty cd
[17:48] <antto> max speed?
[17:51] <antto> doh, there's no other option.. burning
[17:52] <antto> i'll stand back, don't wanna get burned ;P~
[20:28] <Guest73575> hi could anyone help ...im looking to extend my desktop but will only mirror :$ any help would be grand
[22:30] <gartral> OvenWerks: it would appear as though my not having a ~/.pulse folder is causing the issue >.<
[22:31] <holstein> gartral: you should be able to blow all of that out, and let it all respawn
[22:32] <holstein> what i usually do is, make a new user.. make sure it is in the audio group and whatever else is necessary (sudo) or whatever, and test
[22:32] <holstein> then, if all is well, i either migrate to that user, or remove *everything* from the first user /home and let it respawn
[22:32] <holstein> i test again, and put whatever configs i feel i need back in place, which is usually just a few things anyways
[22:33] <holstein> i never delete anything til im sure i dont need it anymore
[22:35] <gartral> holstein: well due to a drive driver issue, what I intended to be a cp ~/.pulse ~/.oldpulse somehow nuked the dir, last time I buy an OCZ SSD
[22:37] <holstein> still, everything in the /home should respawn to default if you A. remove them, or B. create a new user
[22:38] <gartral> well it hasn't respawned
[22:38] <holstein> gartral: then, it either wasnt there in the first place, or something else (as i suggested) needs to be removed as well to trigger the recreation
[22:39] <holstein> you can also create a new user (as i suggested) and test, and borrow the one from there
[22:50] <guest-17IfP2> hello
[22:50] <guest-17IfP2> Im new with ubuntu studio...
[22:51] <guest-17IfP2> I have problems logging in again to my normal session...
[22:52] <guest-17IfP2> the login screen is looping... my password is correct everything seems to work fine but login screen keeps showing...
[22:52] <holstein> gartral: you likely messed something up in the home config
[22:53] <holstein> what would i do? login via tty to make sure the password is working for the user in question
[22:53] <guest-17IfP2> probably... I was using Chromium and pc crashed horribly...
[22:53] <holstein> then, i woul dmake a new user via tty and test login to that user
[22:53] <holstein> then, (assuming that new user is "fine") i would remove things from the user in question /home
[22:53] <guest-17IfP2> yes, the password is working fine..
[22:54] <holstein> gartral: OK
[22:54] <guest-17IfP2> OK
[22:55] <holstein> gartral: sorry
[22:56] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: ^^
[22:56] <guest-17IfP2> can I do that from Guestuser?
[22:56] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: if you want to try it, try it.. i suggested something different
[22:56] <holstein> if you want to know for certain, follow my suggestion
[22:57] <guest-17IfP2> since Im new with ubuntu, how can I do that?
[22:57] <holstein> then, you can login as the main user, and test again.. if all is well, you can put back what you need/want systematically, while testing, carefully
[22:57] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: its as simple as making a new user
[22:57] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: and removing files in a file manager, if you want
[22:58] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: what exactly are you having isues with?
[22:58] <guest-17IfP2> logging to my current user...
[22:58] <guest-17IfP2> login screen is looping
[22:58] <OvenWerks> control/alt/F1 normally gets a text login.
[22:58] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: ?
[22:58] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: and, when you removed the /home contents?
[22:59] <guest-17IfP2> I didnt remove contents... pc crashed baddly
[22:59] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: ok
[22:59] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: what do you need help with?
[22:59] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: what i suggest goes like this.. in this order as well
[23:00] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: test the password in TTY, to make certain the password is correct
[23:00] <guest-17IfP2> Ok....
[23:00] <holstein> creat a new user, via TTY, and login as that user
[23:00] <guest-17IfP2> ok, password is correct...
[23:00] <holstein> if you can login as that new user, then, remove the stuff in the /home directory of the "bad" user
[23:01] <guest-17IfP2> how do I do that??? create a new user?? sorry for that...
[23:01] <holstein> !adduser
[23:01] <guest-17IfP2> ok..
[23:01] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: remove stuff = remove all the hidden files.. the .config and .whatever files
[23:02] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: if you can login as the new user without issue, then the problem is in the user config
[23:02] <guest-17IfP2>  it sounds too complicated for me... i have almost 0 experience with it...
[23:02] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: which?
[23:02] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: you have but to clearly say "i need help with whatever"
[23:03] <guest-17IfP2> yes
[23:04] <holstein> yes, what?
[23:05] <holstein> you need help with creating the user?
[23:05] <holstein> sudo adduser
[23:08] <guest-17IfP2> thanks... Im on the way... the new user is already created... ufff....!
[23:09] <guest-17IfP2> but I dont understand how I will recover files from the other user...
[23:10] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: you will not delete anything..
[23:10] <holstein> also, we are not recoering anything
[23:10] <holstein> we are troubleshooting still
[23:10] <guest-17IfP2> How can I leave to test if is working without leaving the chat???
[23:10] <guest-17IfP2> ok...
[23:10] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: ?
[23:10] <holstein> you leave the chat
[23:10] <holstein> you come back if you want
[23:10] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: you take notes of *exatly* the steps
[23:10] <guest-17IfP2> yes I willl.... im excited...
[23:10] <holstein> you move all the hidde files out of the "bad" user account
[23:11] <holstein> you can move them from tty as well.. if you want to search
[23:11] <guest-17IfP2> can you give me commands for tty?
[23:12] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: for what?
[23:12] <guest-17IfP2> the steps...
[23:13] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: for what?
[23:13] <guest-17IfP2> to move the hidden files...
[23:14] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: if you are new, you can go in from a live CD, and move them.. click and drag.. that would be easiest
[23:15] <guest-17IfP2> no way... I tried to acces new user and is not working... also login screen looping....
[23:16] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: no way?
[23:16] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: what do you mean by "no way"?
[23:16] <guest-17IfP2> Im frustrated...
[23:16] <holstein> how is the new user access not wrking?
[23:16] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: maybe come back when you are not frustrated
[23:17] <guest-17IfP2> come on..!
[23:17] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: ?
[23:17] <guest-17IfP2> sorry...
[23:17] <holstein> !volunteers | guest-17IfP2
[23:17] <holstein> also, keep in mind, you should have your data backed up regardless
[23:18] <holstein> you can go in and move your data over to a backup with a live CD and reinstall the OS in just a few minutes
[23:18] <guest-17IfP2> yes, but i have no idea how to get to this user desktop files...
[23:19] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: they are in the /home/username
[23:19] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: that is something else you should know..
[23:20] <guest-17IfP2> im really a null in ubuntu... im sorry... but Im doing my best...
[23:21] <guest-17IfP2> can you give me an example line or some link to a documentation on how to copy files from one location to another???
[23:21] <holstein> sure
[23:22] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: load a live CD.. pen a filemanager.. click and drag
[23:22] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: mv /path/to/file /path/to/where/you/want/to/move the file
[23:22] <holstein> !info mv
[23:22] <holstein> anyways.. keep it simple
[23:22] <holstein> use a live CD
[23:23] <guest-17IfP2> a live CD, you mean a CD from where I can reboot ubuntu studio and see the files???
[23:23] <holstein> guest-17IfP2: the live CD you used to install ubuntustudio.. that is a live CD
[23:24] <holstein> boot it live.. dont install just boot live
[23:24] <holstein> all the ubuntu versions have live CD
[23:24] <holstein> i have lubuntu and other light live CD's for purposes of repairing and moveing files
[23:24] <holstein> moving*
[23:24] <guest-17IfP2> ok.. I[ll do that now...
[23:24] <guest-17IfP2> ill be back...