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MooDoomorning all07:27
popeyyo07:36
MooDoo:)07:47
christelgood morning prettycakes!07:56
MooDoomorning christel <307:56
popeyooh http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1267261/snowden-leaves-hong-kong-commercial-flight-moscow08:04
shaunoheh, as if China didn't make them antsy enough.  he's going for the whole fan club08:11
brobostigongood morning everyone,08:11
MooDoomorning brobostigon08:20
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:25
hd5770morning guys08:29
hd5770today i will install ubuntu08:30
brobostigongood luck.08:31
brobostigonalways recommended, take backups all that normal stuff, beforehand, incase, play safe.08:32
MooDoobackup?  what are these backups of which you speak ;)08:46
popeywas at a kids party yesterday and was quizzed about backups ☻08:50
MooDooanyone know how czajkowski is going in NYC?08:50
MooDoopopey: what fun....08:50
MooDooalthough I am paranoid about backups lol08:50
popeyshe flys back this weekend08:50
MooDoopopey: jelly and backups party eh?08:51
popeyno jelly, but beer and hot dogs08:51
popeyand water baloons ☻08:51
MooDooeven better08:52
MooDoowas this extreame water balooning popey ?08:55
popey08:55
MartijnVdSMooDoo: that's when  you fill some of the balloons with toxic chemicals?09:06
MooDooMartijnVdS: It's ok, I'm just picturing popey on a trampoline throwing water baloons.09:06
popeythere was no tramopline, but there was a bouncy castle ☻09:07
MooDoo:)09:08
popeydirecthex: Dead Island is a bit fun09:38
popeybizarre that random people on the internet join in my games though09:38
* popey switches that off09:39
alistaircan i get help here regarding a wifi issue?10:09
MooDooalistair: just ask, if anyone can help they will10:10
AlanBelland stay online for more than a few seconds ;)10:10
alistairi have a realtek 8188ce b/g/n controller and i am running ubuntu 13.04, the connection keeps dropping every 3 minutes but it was working fine for a few months before that, how can i fix?10:14
AlanBellBug #117170810:15
lubotu3bug 1171708 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unreliable wireless connectivity with Realtek 8188ce - Solved" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117170810:15
AlanBellhmm, not sure what exactly is solved about that10:16
AlanBellalistair: looks like someone else had the same problem and resolved the issue by downloading the vendor latest drivers, which you could try doing10:17
AlanBellbut really the right package in Ubuntu needs updating10:18
AlanBellI would suggest downloading the driver and installing it as per that bug report (you will need sudo in front of the make install line)10:20
AlanBelland add a comment to the bug saying whether or not it resolved your issue10:20
alistairmany thanks for your help :-)10:22
* SuperEngineer awoke this morning to the realisation that he had done 1st compile on a *nix system since the days of Unix system V!10:33
SuperEngineer...better be carteful - be coding again if I'm not careful ;)10:33
SuperEngineer*careful10:33
MooDooSuperEngineer: stop that now lol10:33
SuperEngineer:D10:34
MartijnVdSSuperEngineer: proper Unix? :)11:22
MartijnVdSSuperEngineer: or do you count compiling on Linux as well?11:22
SuperEngineerMartijnVdS: I used to work on proper Unix [even had to do the dreaded the course supplied by ICL] - manual as thick as a bible on my desk at all times.11:23
SuperEngineer...that was however a few days ago [sub days/decades but don't tell!]11:24
SuperEngineeryesterday was 1st compile on Linux11:25
SuperEngineerthinking of which... bbs - gonna do a full restart & check all still works11:34
SuperEngineerhmmm - so far, so good11:48
dogmatic69hi all12:29
MooDoohello dogmatic6912:29
dogmatic69having so much problems with 13.04 :/12:29
MooDooboooo i'm just installing it now on my laptop12:29
dogmatic69was a real pain making GXT550 Ti work, then was ok for some days.12:29
dogmatic69started up this morning, was no longer using nvidia driver and unity was dead12:30
dogmatic69managed to make the drivers work again, and now have title bars from unity but no main bar thingy12:30
dogmatic69cant <windows-key> anything12:31
dogmatic69MooDoo: my thoughts, its like some amateur alpha version. Really thinking about switching now, have read that others like kbuntu / xbuntu are much better these days12:32
dogmatic69Since clean install of 13.04 +- 3 days ago, I must have had 50 -> 100 'this xyz has died, report problem / restart'12:33
dogmatic69just 5 minutes ago apport died12:34
MooDoobooo12:39
dogmatic69biab, another reboot...12:43
alistairicecast12:51
dogmatic69MooDoo: hope you have better luck. I now have unit stuff working again, but lost all my personal changes...12:52
MartijnVdSdogmatic69: what kind of hardware are you running on?12:55
MooDoodogmatic69: seems ok at the moment.12:56
dogmatic69MartijnVdS: Ausus P5N-D mobo, Q8800 (or something) quad core cpu, 2x GTX550 Ti, SSD hdd12:58
dogmatic69anyone know where the side bar config is stored (icon size / sticky / icons etc)12:59
MartijnVdSgsettings, I think12:59
dogmatic69I backed up and deleted the .config/ folder12:59
dogmatic69MartijnVdS: just want to copy the files / lines. not re do it all again.12:59
MartijnVdSdogmatic69: I think it's in ~/.config13:10
MartijnVdSbut I can't find where13:10
dogmatic69MartijnVdS: its def in .config, I know that much as that is the folder I removed.13:17
dogmatic69seems like there are some bin configs there, could be one of them13:17
MartijnVdSit's the dconf/gsettings one13:18
MartijnVdSI don't know why that has 2 names13:18
dogmatic69MartijnVdS: that is the one. mine is corrupt :(13:22
AzelphurAnyone here happen to know what kind of range you can get on a wireless qi charger, and whether it'd work through cloth?14:53
Azelphurrandom questions :P14:53
daftykinsi actually have one14:53
daftykinsfor charging my Nexus 414:54
daftykinsthin cloth'd work yeah, but it seems to get unhappy after a few millimetres14:54
AzelphurI see14:54
Azelphurso I'd definitely get away with a piece of card, if not cloth :)14:55
daftykinsyipyip14:55
daftykinsi'm eventually going to get a proper set of custom shelves made up for my TV gear14:56
daftykinsamp, consoles, etc14:56
daftykinsmy mate had the genius idea of recessing the Qi charger into the top panel then putting thin glass over the top14:56
daftykinsthen it'd be kinda invisible to just place the phone down on :O14:56
MyrttiSomeone has done it with ikea nightstand14:57
daftykinsoh?14:58
Myrttihttp://www.slashgear.com/wireless-charging-nightstand-mod-injects-nokia-qi-into-ikea-30279904/14:58
daftykinshaha, so it is14:59
daftykinsty Myrtti14:59
Myrttiyw14:59
Azelphurnice15:02
MyrttiI'd use Nokia or some other quality make charger for that mood though15:14
Myrttinot entirely convinced el cheapos would manage through wood that well15:15
daftykinsAzelphur: what device are you going to be charging?15:15
Azelphurdaftykins: same as you, nexus 415:17
daftykinsi saw lots of comments on the Nokia chargers allegedly not working15:17
daftykinsit might have mostly been down to how slippery the phone is though, sliding around on it preventing a charge15:17
daftykinshttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Charging-Powermat-Standard-Charger/dp/B00BS8BJ7Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1372000674&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+4+qi+charger15:18
daftykinsi have that one15:18
Azelphurdaftykins: my crazy plan was to get this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging-Pad-QI-standard-charger-LED-indicator-Black-colour-/300912734521#vi-content and put it in my coat pocket, connected to a USB charger.15:20
daftykinscoat pocket 0o15:21
Azelphuryea, gotta admit that'd be awesome.15:23
penguin42and what were you going to power that off?15:23
daftykinsso is the idea it always charges when you pocket it whilst out and about?15:24
Azelphurpenguin42: I have one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battery-World-Universal-External-Li-Polymer-Compatible/dp/B008AS55O015:25
penguin42Azelphur: heavy coat15:26
Azelphurpenguin42: my coat breaks people, I carry around a laptop, phone, tablet, that battery, and a bunch of other stuff.15:26
daftykinsO_O15:27
daftykinsa coat with pockets for such things!?15:27
AzelphurYup15:27
penguin42the nuclear power source in his back pocket....15:27
daftykinsXD15:27
daftykinsi just have a lovely laptop bag from crumpler15:27
Azelphurhehe15:28
daftykinsbut i need to cycle with my toys too15:28
penguin42odd that Youtube still has the old notification header16:42
alistairhi i am trying to get the rlt8188ce to work on ubuntu 13.04 i uninstalled linux firmware to enable me to install firmware-realtek and the connection is shown in the network connections window but there is no option to enable wifi, what do i need to install to get this option?17:35
daftykinshmm17:47
daftykinsnot much patience17:47
daftykinspenguin42: how do you mean?17:48
penguin42daftykins: Still has the little redsquare with the number at the top17:49
MartijnVdSWow.. that was a big BigV outage18:02
penguin42oh? The older bytemark stuff is fine18:03
daftykinsMartijnVdS: i only by chance found mine seized the other day :(18:03
MartijnVdSdaftykins: https://forum.bytemark.co.uk/comments.php?DiscussionID=4551&page=118:03
MartijnVdSalso, https://forum.bytemark.co.uk/comments.php?DiscussionID=4546&page=1#Item_218:04
MartijnVdSbut yes, you have to look for it yourself :(18:04
daftykinsi'd be happy if they auto reset them18:04
MartijnVdSpenguin42: some of their disk servers ("tails") went to go cry in a corner, I guess18:04
daftykinsphew redtape lurks in other channels now18:04
MartijnVdSyay.. uh.. I mean18:05
MartijnVdSdoes he now?18:05
penguin42MartijnVdS: Ah yeh just looked at the forums - my VM is pre-BigV18:05
MartijnVdSpenguin42: I moved mine a few months ago18:05
penguin42mine was UML some years back18:05
MartijnVdSmine was kvm with an external kernel18:05
MartijnVdSwhich was annoying18:05
penguin42yeh that's how mine is still18:06
MartijnVdSnow it's just bare KVM, so I boot a proper Ubuntu in it18:06
daftykinsi'm using wheezy with their symbiosis thing18:06
daftykinsit's pretty neat18:06
penguin42looking at the dates in the fileystem I think it was created about 200518:06
penguin42(running wheezy)18:07
MartijnVdSEveryone is rebooting their VMs now.. disk access is SLOOOOW18:08
daftykinsheh18:09
daftykinsmines still serving a site so i'm sure it's alright18:09
daftykinsalthough i still can't SSH in since i changed the default port =|18:09
MartijnVdShaha, oops18:10
daftykinsyeah their auto firewall thingy seems to be breaking things18:10
MartijnVdSIs anyone else going to Spa for F1 in August? :)18:12
daftykinshah, yip their firewall thingy is opening port 22 but not the port i changed it to18:16
daftykinssilly bigv18:16
MartijnVdSdaftykins: must be your own firewall18:16
daftykinsno18:16
MartijnVdSdaftykins: because I can connect on lots of ports just fine18:16
daftykinsi think you misunderstand, my BigV VM is running symbiosis which has automated firewall config18:17
daftykinsi changed my SSH port, but their rules statically consider SSH to be on the default port alone18:17
daftykinsweirdly it worked once i set it up, as i changed what my SSH port is in their config files too18:17
daftykinsyet somehow it's now broken18:17
MartijnVdSah, symbiosis' firewall ;)18:18
daftykinsyip18:18
MartijnVdSdaftykins: at least the console works, right (bigv -> vm connect:)18:19
daftykinsyeah that's what i'm using18:19
daftykinsthe way it doesn't give you the login prompt confuses sometimes :D18:19
daftykinshaving a blank line and just having to start typing your user18:19
popeyEvening18:22
MartijnVdS\o popey18:23
daftykins\o18:33
daftykinsugh this woodworm business really isn't pleasant18:34
daftykinskeep finding them about the house and have to grab them for disposal18:34
SuperEngineera mincraft question [just in case anyone here knows about minecraft lol]...18:35
daftykinsi helped setup a Linux server once, that's about as far as it goes XD18:35
SuperEngineer...why is thgere a mionecraft.net, minecraft.org [and what is minetest on software ceentre like].18:35
SuperEngineerdaftykins: why "grab them for disposal" - surely, a frying pan with bacon!  nom nom18:43
daftykinsthey're like 2mm long XD18:44
penguin42daftykins: Hmm never seen them; we get some silverfish every so often, and some carpet beetles18:44
SuperEngineeroooo -chewy woodworm with bacon! that needs a good lard to enjoy them at their best!18:45
daftykins-_-18:45
SuperEngineer...and are you sure there's no locusts?  Then, with that lot you could do a pealla!  ;)18:46
daftykinsyou're kinda pushing that one a bit far18:50
mungbeanstar wars ep II is dull18:50
mungbeanfeels more like lame fan fiction18:51
daftykinsi find the entire Star Wars franchise overrated tosh personally :(18:52
mungbeaniv-vi are part of my childhood18:52
daftykinsi'm sure it was different when they were new18:53
daftykinshttp://raspberrycolocation.com/19:22
daftykinsoh-emm-gee19:22
* popey notes daftykins may be watching LAS ☻19:22
MartijnVdSAmsterdam they say?19:23
daftykinspopey: yeah redtape linked me, i'd never heard of it19:23
daftykinspopey: in another chan i might add, he hides from you19:23
popeytwat19:24
popey(I am in that channel too)19:24
daftykins:D19:25
daftykinshe is a weird one ;x19:25
daftykinsi quite like this rasp-pi colo for free idea19:25
popeyyeah, neat19:25
penguin42daftykins: I wonder whether they've just got a fast x86 somewhere running qemu19:26
daftykinsand they keep the pi's? :)19:27
popeyheh19:27
popeywe use qemu based arm builders for ubuntu19:28
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/builders see the bottom of that list19:28
daftykinsheh that dudes using a quake console style terminal emulator with irssi in it, isn't he?19:29
daftykinshackintosh lappy, oddness19:30
popeyhis system76 machine?19:31
daftykinsyeah i assumed that he was saying it's a hackintosh, earlier19:31
popeyah19:31
daftykinsor maybe that was just about a home system19:31
popeyi thought his hackintosh was another machine, desktop class19:32
daftykinsprobably then yeah19:32
popeyphoto he posted was a giant monitor19:32
daftykinsah didn't see that19:32
daftykinsjust when he's got his laptop up i couldn't tell the OS19:32
popeyi think his hackintosh is old19:33
popeybeen around a while19:33
popeyhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/108668411027851722546/posts/gaFXJ44EJe419:33
daftykinsooh19:35
daftykinsnice bit from Cheney there19:37
popeyheh19:39
popeynever seen this show19:39
daftykinsi switch off at politics19:41
popeyheh19:41
popeyme too mostly19:41
popeyespecially us politics19:41
=== OmNomDeBonBon is now known as CrispinOnTheCan
popeyooh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRivx-wEaiE19:43
popeymight have to go and see that19:43
daftykinszomg ex star trek matey19:50
daftykinsdoesn't even look like he's aged a day in the last 12+ years19:51
popeyoh thats what he was in!19:53
daftykinsyip!19:57
daftykinsTNG then a bit of DS919:57
=== CrispinOnTheCan is now known as GentileBen
shaunoI've been watching Enterprise over this weekend's shifts.  I almost feel guilty for getting past the first episode19:58
daftykinsthe first was pretty bad19:59
daftykinsQ and court shenanigans? ugh19:59
popeyI quite liked Enterpise19:59
popeymore so than TNG19:59
AlanBellI watched the first several19:59
popeynever got into TNG or DS919:59
daftykinsi've still yet to give it a go19:59
popeybut then I quite like Scott Bakula from Quantum Leap19:59
daftykinsi was trying to watch DS9 back to back 'recently' but it's tough going19:59
daftykinshaha yeah :D20:00
AlanBellI was quite interested in the various bits of backstory they were giving the technology like transporters and replicators20:00
daftykinsi tried to watch all of Quantum Leap too but my word is it samey20:00
popeyoh very much so20:00
popeybut most american stuff back then was20:00
popeywhere there was no season story arc20:00
popeylike you get now with programmes like Dexter20:01
* brobostigon wont get inveolved as an inparital memory-alpha editor.20:01
daftykinsthere were some proper plot episodes in Quantum Leap20:01
daftykinsbut yeah quite rare20:01
daftykinsi'd heard how the very ending went but i just couldn't get there :D20:01
* popey has no idea what "memory-alpha editor"20:03
popey*is20:03
daftykinsmemory alpha is a star trek wiki i think20:04
shaunostar trek wikia20:04
popeyahh20:04
* AlanBell hums Piggy Sue20:04
brobostigonyep.20:04
popeygoogling piggy sue is interesting20:05
daftykinsis that some kind of Muppets cover of Peggy Sue? :>20:05
AlanBellit was a rather good twist at the end of a Quantum Leap episode20:06
AlanBellhttp://www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=785720:08
daftykinsoh yes :)20:09
daftykinsSam's morals got pretty frustrating throughout that series too20:09
daftykins:D20:10
mungbeandidn't QL become quantum shag?20:11
popeybecause he wanted to get home20:11
mungbeanbit like a frustrated teenager waking up from a dirty dream too early, sam would jump just at the wrong time20:12
popeyand just shagging his way through history wouldn't have resulted in that20:12
daftykinsXD20:12
popeyi dont recall the piggy sue ep, but it was a loooong time ago20:12
popeyi had them on VHS at one point20:12
mungbeanso did he ever get home?20:12
popeythere was a last episode20:13
daftykinsi saw an ep where he was back in his own time briefly20:13
popeyno spoilers!20:13
popey20:13
daftykinsi think he might have been in someone elses body though20:13
mungbeani always think its like"how i met your mother"...nonsense wrapper around a basic programme20:13
popeynever seen that either20:13
mungbeanwife watches it, i ended up watching20:13
mungbeaninto the returned atm,20:13
mungbeanits on now20:13
mungbeanbut recording it20:13
mungbeanreally atmospheric20:13
* popey checks to see if QL is on netflix20:14
mungbeanreturned itson 4od20:14
popeyYES!20:14
daftykinsi'm not sure i could deal with TV sharing20:14
mungbeanalso baby is unwell20:14
daftykinsi'd have to get a 3D one that you can show two sources on at once XD20:14
mungbeanand i don't like advers20:14
* popey watches QL S1E120:14
mungbeanwaits for tldr in 1hr20:14
popeyhaha, the woman in the opening scene has LEDs in her shoe heels20:15
* mungbean has been lookng at dioramas. wish i had an excuse to make one20:16
shaunoon a completely unrelated note, I've been enjoying Kerbal Space Program.  very nerdy.  on steam, on linux, has a free demo20:16
shaunosurprised I hadn't heard of it20:16
daftykinspopey: that's just the totally accurate future ;)20:16
mungbeanexcept only 5yr olds wear them20:17
popeyits not far off20:17
popeyyou can buy them now20:17
mungbeanlife imitating art?20:17
mungbeanugh i need to try and sleep now in case i dont sleep later20:17
* popey hugs netflix20:18
* daftykins pats locally stored media20:19
* brobostigon hugs his pink floyd records.20:20
daftykins*crack crack shatter*20:24
daftykinsD:20:24
brobostigon ihave them on cd's now, :)20:25
popeyYes, S03E01 he leaps back into himself as a kid20:33
popeyI used to have a TDK tape with loads of TV themes on, recorded directly off the telly ☻20:34
daftykinsindeedy20:34
popeyincluding QL20:34
daftykinshaha20:34
popeypip pip hamitron20:35
* hamitron runs out of the way of popey's path20:42
bigcalmHola peeps :)21:26
popeypip pip21:26
bigcalmHumf, too many ubuntu-uk channels open.21:26
popey"too many"?21:26
bigcalm3 last count21:26
hamitrondo you guys still play minecraft?21:27
bigcalmThe channel list is partly obscuring the list, so I see "#ubuntu-uk" 3 times21:27
bigcalmAnybody's guess as to which one I was talking in :)21:27
popeyhah21:28
* popey hugs irssi21:28
popeyhmm, minecraft just gives me a black screen21:34
hamitronI haven't played for ages21:34
popeymy kids play most weekends21:34
hamitronyou still running a server?21:34
popeyyeah, for the kids to play on, but publicly we play on the bitfolk one21:35
hamitronok :)21:35
brobostigonany interested people around, to write NDA's for something?22:04
popeycan you not use a pre-written one?22:05
brobostigoni am just looking at.22:06
popeynever had to, but sounds like the kind of thing you can find online22:06
brobostigonyes, you can.22:06
brobostigononly NDA i ever signed, was in 2001 with BE, to design machines based on BeOS, which as i didnt know t the time, wasnt long before there collapse.22:09
brobostigonwhen i was at collage.22:10
brobostigontheir*22:11
daftykinsthat's where you were going wrong, you were studying at a type of artwork!22:14
brobostigoni was studying a form pf computer engineering.22:15
brobostigonof*22:15
hamitrondidn't include typing classes? ;)22:15
brobostigonno, it did not, otherwise i would have became a secretery.22:16
brobostigongreat song, random choice, from my sd card on my new tv, weird thing.22:18
brobostigondads*22:18
brobostigonbrothers in arms.22:19

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