[07:27] morning all [07:36] yo [07:47] :) [07:56] good morning prettycakes! [07:56] morning christel <3 [08:04] ooh http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1267261/snowden-leaves-hong-kong-commercial-flight-moscow [08:11] heh, as if China didn't make them antsy enough. he's going for the whole fan club [08:11] good morning everyone, [08:20] morning brobostigon [08:25] morning MooDoo [08:29] morning guys [08:30] today i will install ubuntu [08:31] good luck. [08:32] always recommended, take backups all that normal stuff, beforehand, incase, play safe. [08:46] backup? what are these backups of which you speak ;) [08:50] was at a kids party yesterday and was quizzed about backups ☻ [08:50] anyone know how czajkowski is going in NYC? [08:50] popey: what fun.... [08:50] although I am paranoid about backups lol [08:50] she flys back this weekend [08:51] popey: jelly and backups party eh? [08:51] no jelly, but beer and hot dogs [08:51] and water baloons ☻ [08:52] even better [08:55] was this extreame water balooning popey ? [08:55] ☻ [09:06] MooDoo: that's when you fill some of the balloons with toxic chemicals? [09:06] MartijnVdS: It's ok, I'm just picturing popey on a trampoline throwing water baloons. [09:07] there was no tramopline, but there was a bouncy castle ☻ [09:08] :) [09:38] directhex: Dead Island is a bit fun [09:38] bizarre that random people on the internet join in my games though [09:39] * popey switches that off [10:09] can i get help here regarding a wifi issue? [10:10] alistair: just ask, if anyone can help they will [10:10] and stay online for more than a few seconds ;) [10:14] i have a realtek 8188ce b/g/n controller and i am running ubuntu 13.04, the connection keeps dropping every 3 minutes but it was working fine for a few months before that, how can i fix? [10:15] Bug #1171708 [10:15] bug 1171708 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unreliable wireless connectivity with Realtek 8188ce - Solved" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171708 [10:16] hmm, not sure what exactly is solved about that [10:17] alistair: looks like someone else had the same problem and resolved the issue by downloading the vendor latest drivers, which you could try doing [10:18] but really the right package in Ubuntu needs updating [10:20] I would suggest downloading the driver and installing it as per that bug report (you will need sudo in front of the make install line) [10:20] and add a comment to the bug saying whether or not it resolved your issue [10:22] many thanks for your help :-) [10:33] * SuperEngineer awoke this morning to the realisation that he had done 1st compile on a *nix system since the days of Unix system V! [10:33] ...better be carteful - be coding again if I'm not careful ;) [10:33] *careful [10:33] SuperEngineer: stop that now lol [10:34] :D [11:22] SuperEngineer: proper Unix? :) [11:22] SuperEngineer: or do you count compiling on Linux as well? [11:23] MartijnVdS: I used to work on proper Unix [even had to do the dreaded the course supplied by ICL] - manual as thick as a bible on my desk at all times. [11:24] ...that was however a few days ago [sub days/decades but don't tell!] [11:25] yesterday was 1st compile on Linux [11:34] thinking of which... bbs - gonna do a full restart & check all still works [11:48] hmmm - so far, so good [12:29] hi all [12:29] hello dogmatic69 [12:29] having so much problems with 13.04 :/ [12:29] boooo i'm just installing it now on my laptop [12:29] was a real pain making GXT550 Ti work, then was ok for some days. [12:30] started up this morning, was no longer using nvidia driver and unity was dead [12:30] managed to make the drivers work again, and now have title bars from unity but no main bar thingy [12:31] cant anything [12:32] MooDoo: my thoughts, its like some amateur alpha version. Really thinking about switching now, have read that others like kbuntu / xbuntu are much better these days [12:33] Since clean install of 13.04 +- 3 days ago, I must have had 50 -> 100 'this xyz has died, report problem / restart' [12:34] just 5 minutes ago apport died [12:39] booo [12:43] biab, another reboot... [12:51] icecast [12:52] MooDoo: hope you have better luck. I now have unit stuff working again, but lost all my personal changes... [12:55] dogmatic69: what kind of hardware are you running on? [12:56] dogmatic69: seems ok at the moment. [12:58] MartijnVdS: Ausus P5N-D mobo, Q8800 (or something) quad core cpu, 2x GTX550 Ti, SSD hdd [12:59] anyone know where the side bar config is stored (icon size / sticky / icons etc) [12:59] gsettings, I think [12:59] I backed up and deleted the .config/ folder [12:59] MartijnVdS: just want to copy the files / lines. not re do it all again. [13:10] dogmatic69: I think it's in ~/.config [13:10] but I can't find where [13:17] MartijnVdS: its def in .config, I know that much as that is the folder I removed. [13:17] seems like there are some bin configs there, could be one of them [13:18] it's the dconf/gsettings one [13:18] I don't know why that has 2 names [13:22] MartijnVdS: that is the one. mine is corrupt :( [14:53] Anyone here happen to know what kind of range you can get on a wireless qi charger, and whether it'd work through cloth? [14:53] random questions :P [14:53] i actually have one [14:54] for charging my Nexus 4 [14:54] thin cloth'd work yeah, but it seems to get unhappy after a few millimetres [14:54] I see [14:55] so I'd definitely get away with a piece of card, if not cloth :) [14:55] yipyip [14:56] i'm eventually going to get a proper set of custom shelves made up for my TV gear [14:56] amp, consoles, etc [14:56] my mate had the genius idea of recessing the Qi charger into the top panel then putting thin glass over the top [14:56] then it'd be kinda invisible to just place the phone down on :O [14:57] Someone has done it with ikea nightstand [14:58] oh? [14:58] http://www.slashgear.com/wireless-charging-nightstand-mod-injects-nokia-qi-into-ikea-30279904/ [14:59] haha, so it is [14:59] ty Myrtti [14:59] yw [15:02] nice [15:14] I'd use Nokia or some other quality make charger for that mood though [15:15] not entirely convinced el cheapos would manage through wood that well [15:15] Azelphur: what device are you going to be charging? [15:17] daftykins: same as you, nexus 4 [15:17] i saw lots of comments on the Nokia chargers allegedly not working [15:17] it might have mostly been down to how slippery the phone is though, sliding around on it preventing a charge [15:18] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Charging-Powermat-Standard-Charger/dp/B00BS8BJ7Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1372000674&sr=8-3&keywords=nexus+4+qi+charger [15:18] i have that one [15:20] daftykins: my crazy plan was to get this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging-Pad-QI-standard-charger-LED-indicator-Black-colour-/300912734521#vi-content and put it in my coat pocket, connected to a USB charger. [15:21] coat pocket 0o [15:23] yea, gotta admit that'd be awesome. [15:23] and what were you going to power that off? [15:24] so is the idea it always charges when you pocket it whilst out and about? [15:25] penguin42: I have one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battery-World-Universal-External-Li-Polymer-Compatible/dp/B008AS55O0 [15:26] Azelphur: heavy coat [15:26] penguin42: my coat breaks people, I carry around a laptop, phone, tablet, that battery, and a bunch of other stuff. [15:27] O_O [15:27] a coat with pockets for such things!? [15:27] Yup [15:27] the nuclear power source in his back pocket.... [15:27] XD [15:27] i just have a lovely laptop bag from crumpler [15:28] hehe [15:28] but i need to cycle with my toys too [16:42] odd that Youtube still has the old notification header [17:35] hi i am trying to get the rlt8188ce to work on ubuntu 13.04 i uninstalled linux firmware to enable me to install firmware-realtek and the connection is shown in the network connections window but there is no option to enable wifi, what do i need to install to get this option? [17:47] hmm [17:47] not much patience [17:48] penguin42: how do you mean? [17:49] daftykins: Still has the little redsquare with the number at the top [18:02] Wow.. that was a big BigV outage [18:03] oh? The older bytemark stuff is fine [18:03] MartijnVdS: i only by chance found mine seized the other day :( [18:03] daftykins: https://forum.bytemark.co.uk/comments.php?DiscussionID=4551&page=1 [18:04] also, https://forum.bytemark.co.uk/comments.php?DiscussionID=4546&page=1#Item_2 [18:04] but yes, you have to look for it yourself :( [18:04] i'd be happy if they auto reset them [18:04] penguin42: some of their disk servers ("tails") went to go cry in a corner, I guess [18:04] phew redtape lurks in other channels now [18:05] yay.. uh.. I mean [18:05] does he now? [18:05] MartijnVdS: Ah yeh just looked at the forums - my VM is pre-BigV [18:05] penguin42: I moved mine a few months ago [18:05] mine was UML some years back [18:05] mine was kvm with an external kernel [18:05] which was annoying [18:06] yeh that's how mine is still [18:06] now it's just bare KVM, so I boot a proper Ubuntu in it [18:06] i'm using wheezy with their symbiosis thing [18:06] it's pretty neat [18:06] looking at the dates in the fileystem I think it was created about 2005 [18:07] (running wheezy) [18:08] Everyone is rebooting their VMs now.. disk access is SLOOOOW [18:09] heh [18:09] mines still serving a site so i'm sure it's alright [18:09] although i still can't SSH in since i changed the default port =| [18:10] haha, oops [18:10] yeah their auto firewall thingy seems to be breaking things [18:12] Is anyone else going to Spa for F1 in August? :) [18:16] hah, yip their firewall thingy is opening port 22 but not the port i changed it to [18:16] silly bigv [18:16] daftykins: must be your own firewall [18:16] no [18:16] daftykins: because I can connect on lots of ports just fine [18:17] i think you misunderstand, my BigV VM is running symbiosis which has automated firewall config [18:17] i changed my SSH port, but their rules statically consider SSH to be on the default port alone [18:17] weirdly it worked once i set it up, as i changed what my SSH port is in their config files too [18:17] yet somehow it's now broken [18:18] ah, symbiosis' firewall ;) [18:18] yip [18:19] daftykins: at least the console works, right (bigv -> vm connect:) [18:19] yeah that's what i'm using [18:19] the way it doesn't give you the login prompt confuses sometimes :D [18:19] having a blank line and just having to start typing your user [18:22] Evening [18:23] \o popey [18:33] \o [18:34] ugh this woodworm business really isn't pleasant [18:34] keep finding them about the house and have to grab them for disposal [18:35] a mincraft question [just in case anyone here knows about minecraft lol]... [18:35] i helped setup a Linux server once, that's about as far as it goes XD [18:35] ...why is thgere a mionecraft.net, minecraft.org [and what is minetest on software ceentre like]. [18:43] daftykins: why "grab them for disposal" - surely, a frying pan with bacon! nom nom [18:44] they're like 2mm long XD [18:44] daftykins: Hmm never seen them; we get some silverfish every so often, and some carpet beetles [18:45] oooo -chewy woodworm with bacon! that needs a good lard to enjoy them at their best! [18:45] -_- [18:46] ...and are you sure there's no locusts? Then, with that lot you could do a pealla! ;) [18:50] you're kinda pushing that one a bit far [18:50] star wars ep II is dull [18:51] feels more like lame fan fiction [18:52] i find the entire Star Wars franchise overrated tosh personally :( [18:52] iv-vi are part of my childhood [18:53] i'm sure it was different when they were new [19:22] http://raspberrycolocation.com/ [19:22] oh-emm-gee [19:22] * popey notes daftykins may be watching LAS ☻ [19:23] Amsterdam they say? [19:23] popey: yeah redtape linked me, i'd never heard of it [19:23] popey: in another chan i might add, he hides from you [19:24] twat [19:24] (I am in that channel too) [19:25] :D [19:25] he is a weird one ;x [19:25] i quite like this rasp-pi colo for free idea [19:25] yeah, neat [19:26] daftykins: I wonder whether they've just got a fast x86 somewhere running qemu [19:27] and they keep the pi's? :) [19:27] heh [19:28] we use qemu based arm builders for ubuntu [19:28] https://launchpad.net/builders see the bottom of that list [19:29] heh that dudes using a quake console style terminal emulator with irssi in it, isn't he? [19:30] hackintosh lappy, oddness [19:31] his system76 machine? [19:31] yeah i assumed that he was saying it's a hackintosh, earlier [19:31] ah [19:31] or maybe that was just about a home system [19:32] i thought his hackintosh was another machine, desktop class [19:32] probably then yeah [19:32] photo he posted was a giant monitor [19:32] ah didn't see that [19:32] just when he's got his laptop up i couldn't tell the OS [19:33] i think his hackintosh is old [19:33] been around a while [19:33] https://plus.google.com/u/0/108668411027851722546/posts/gaFXJ44EJe4 [19:35] ooh [19:37] nice bit from Cheney there [19:39] heh [19:39] never seen this show [19:41] i switch off at politics [19:41] heh [19:41] me too mostly [19:41] especially us politics === OmNomDeBonBon is now known as CrispinOnTheCan [19:43] ooh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRivx-wEaiE [19:43] might have to go and see that [19:50] zomg ex star trek matey [19:51] doesn't even look like he's aged a day in the last 12+ years [19:53] oh thats what he was in! [19:57] yip! [19:57] TNG then a bit of DS9 === CrispinOnTheCan is now known as GentileBen [19:58] I've been watching Enterprise over this weekend's shifts. I almost feel guilty for getting past the first episode [19:59] the first was pretty bad [19:59] Q and court shenanigans? ugh [19:59] I quite liked Enterpise [19:59] more so than TNG [19:59] I watched the first several [19:59] never got into TNG or DS9 [19:59] i've still yet to give it a go [19:59] but then I quite like Scott Bakula from Quantum Leap [19:59] i was trying to watch DS9 back to back 'recently' but it's tough going [20:00] haha yeah :D [20:00] I was quite interested in the various bits of backstory they were giving the technology like transporters and replicators [20:00] i tried to watch all of Quantum Leap too but my word is it samey [20:00] oh very much so [20:00] but most american stuff back then was [20:00] where there was no season story arc [20:01] like you get now with programmes like Dexter [20:01] * brobostigon wont get inveolved as an inparital memory-alpha editor. [20:01] there were some proper plot episodes in Quantum Leap [20:01] but yeah quite rare [20:01] i'd heard how the very ending went but i just couldn't get there :D [20:03] * popey has no idea what "memory-alpha editor" [20:03] *is [20:04] memory alpha is a star trek wiki i think [20:04] star trek wikia [20:04] ahh [20:04] * AlanBell hums Piggy Sue [20:04] yep. [20:05] googling piggy sue is interesting [20:05] is that some kind of Muppets cover of Peggy Sue? :> [20:06] it was a rather good twist at the end of a Quantum Leap episode [20:08] http://www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=7857 [20:09] oh yes :) [20:09] Sam's morals got pretty frustrating throughout that series too [20:10] :D [20:11] didn't QL become quantum shag? [20:11] because he wanted to get home [20:12] bit like a frustrated teenager waking up from a dirty dream too early, sam would jump just at the wrong time [20:12] and just shagging his way through history wouldn't have resulted in that [20:12] XD [20:12] i dont recall the piggy sue ep, but it was a loooong time ago [20:12] i had them on VHS at one point [20:12] so did he ever get home? [20:13] there was a last episode [20:13] i saw an ep where he was back in his own time briefly [20:13] no spoilers! [20:13] ㋛ [20:13] i think he might have been in someone elses body though [20:13] i always think its like"how i met your mother"...nonsense wrapper around a basic programme [20:13] never seen that either [20:13] wife watches it, i ended up watching [20:13] into the returned atm, [20:13] its on now [20:13] but recording it [20:13] really atmospheric [20:14] * popey checks to see if QL is on netflix [20:14] returned itson 4od [20:14] YES! [20:14] i'm not sure i could deal with TV sharing [20:14] also baby is unwell [20:14] i'd have to get a 3D one that you can show two sources on at once XD [20:14] and i don't like advers [20:14] * popey watches QL S1E1 [20:14] waits for tldr in 1hr [20:15] haha, the woman in the opening scene has LEDs in her shoe heels [20:16] * mungbean has been lookng at dioramas. wish i had an excuse to make one [20:16] on a completely unrelated note, I've been enjoying Kerbal Space Program. very nerdy. on steam, on linux, has a free demo [20:16] surprised I hadn't heard of it [20:16] popey: that's just the totally accurate future ;) [20:17] except only 5yr olds wear them [20:17] its not far off [20:17] you can buy them now [20:17] life imitating art? [20:17] ugh i need to try and sleep now in case i dont sleep later [20:18] * popey hugs netflix [20:19] * daftykins pats locally stored media [20:20] * brobostigon hugs his pink floyd records. [20:24] *crack crack shatter* [20:24] D: [20:25] ihave them on cd's now, :) [20:33] Yes, S03E01 he leaps back into himself as a kid [20:34] I used to have a TDK tape with loads of TV themes on, recorded directly off the telly ☻ [20:34] indeedy [20:34] including QL [20:34] haha [20:35] pip pip hamitron [20:42] * hamitron runs out of the way of popey's path [21:26] Hola peeps :) [21:26] pip pip [21:26] Humf, too many ubuntu-uk channels open. [21:26] "too many"? [21:26] 3 last count [21:27] do you guys still play minecraft? [21:27] The channel list is partly obscuring the list, so I see "#ubuntu-uk" 3 times [21:27] Anybody's guess as to which one I was talking in :) [21:28] hah [21:28] * popey hugs irssi [21:34] hmm, minecraft just gives me a black screen [21:34] I haven't played for ages [21:34] my kids play most weekends [21:34] you still running a server? [21:35] yeah, for the kids to play on, but publicly we play on the bitfolk one [21:35] ok :) [22:04] any interested people around, to write NDA's for something? [22:05] can you not use a pre-written one? [22:06] i am just looking at. [22:06] never had to, but sounds like the kind of thing you can find online [22:06] yes, you can. [22:09] only NDA i ever signed, was in 2001 with BE, to design machines based on BeOS, which as i didnt know t the time, wasnt long before there collapse. [22:10] when i was at collage. [22:11] their* [22:14] that's where you were going wrong, you were studying at a type of artwork! [22:15] i was studying a form pf computer engineering. [22:15] of* [22:15] didn't include typing classes? ;) [22:16] no, it did not, otherwise i would have became a secretery. [22:18] great song, random choice, from my sd card on my new tv, weird thing. [22:18] dads* [22:19] brothers in arms.