[12:33] <smlr-hangout> SMLR is Live!  Video http://www.youtube.com/embed/CyETGa4gGqY - Audio http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming (6-23-2013 @ 8:30a EST)
[14:43] <snap-l> Good morning
[16:13] <rick_h> phew, back and alive yay
[16:14] <jrwren_> congrats.
[16:15] <rick_h> https://www.dropbox.com/s/io6fhiw4j04oq7t/2013-06-21%2021.47.45.jpg id kind of cool
[16:15] <rick_h> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cn7x9buvyr088cx/2013-06-21%2020.16.11.jpg night and day
[16:15] <jrwren_> that isn't camping. that is pulling your home wiht you :p
[16:16] <rick_h> pretty much!
[16:16] <rick_h> but we did hiking, kayaking, hay ride, and swimming in a lake. Of those, the only one we do at home is swim in the lake
[16:17] <rick_h> so packged day and a half, or I guess two days if you count friday night and our small time this moring
[16:18] <jrwren_> sounds nice.
[16:18] <rick_h> yea, though glad to be home and in my cool cool basement lol
[16:18] <jrwren_> and, its not home, so there is the change of mindset too. That is what I like most.
[16:19] <rick_h> yea, that's my thought. Was nice that after the boy was just toast and cranky we could put a movie from the tablet on the tv while we cooked dinner
[16:19] <rick_h> let him cool down while we prepped without him going bonkers
[16:19] <rick_h> he's so tired today. moody little bugger
[17:38] <rick_h> http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/17/4436332/macbook-air-review-13-inch-2013 I wonder if that's the first time a model went down in performance in an effort to support another feature
[17:41] <snap-l> rick_h: I don't think they're directly comparable, but yeah, that's not unheard of in the laptop sphere.
[17:43] <rick_h> why not comparable? Old air model to new air model. Performance went down, battery life went up.
[17:43] <snap-l> Different chipset
[17:43] <rick_h> it's like removing HP from a car and getting better milage. Most products aren't willing to have one bullet point go down
[17:43] <snap-l> So yeah, MHz went down but performance was negligible.
[17:44] <snap-l> performance hit, rather.
[17:44] <rick_h> bah, chipset whatever. I think it's comparable enough to say if you bought a laptop last year it's faster than the model this year.
[17:44] <rick_h> I don't recall really seeing that in the same product line through computer history
[17:45] <snap-l> I think it's more prefvalent in laptops than in desktops
[17:45] <snap-l> also in servers for power efficiency.
[17:45] <snap-l> Not that I've got the numbers to back it up. :)
[17:45] <rick_h> lol
[17:46] <snap-l> But yeah, it's a little strange.
[17:46] <snap-l> But for some reason I'm not thinking it's that big of a deal
[17:46] <snap-l> Maybe I still have some Apple brainwashing. ;)
[17:46] <rick_h> not complaining, shoot, I find that crazy and want one. I'm just noting that I don't recall ever seeing last year's model of product X being slower than this years brand new model.
[17:47] <rick_h> "the new kindle, now with slower apges turns but longer battery life"
[17:47] <rick_h> 802.11F slower speeds, but we quit sucking your battery for you
[17:47] <snap-l> I think if the Kindle Fire had that tag line you'd probably want it. ;)
[17:47] <rick_h> lol
[17:48] <snap-l> Kindle Fire: Won't blow through a battery while reading a short story
[17:56] <rick_h> snap-l: hey, I don't care what people do at CHC.
[17:57] <snap-l> rick_h: OK, that's what I figured. :)
[17:58] <snap-l> I'll reply back then. Thanks!
[23:31] <rick_h> ok funny https://twitter.com/fabsh/status/348927971370881024/photo/1 (and I don't usually like to get into the hater games)
[23:32] <greg-g> fabsh?
[23:32] <snap-l> rick_h: It's also one of the reasons our trash bin had a "Powered by Windows 7" on it
[23:32] <rick_h> I got it via a RT
[23:32] <snap-l> and why my stapler has a Java logo on it
[23:32] <greg-g> rick_h: thank god, i'd qustion your sanity
[23:32] <rick_h> David Siegel actually
[23:32] <snap-l> Yeah, me too
[23:32] <greg-g> huh.....
[23:32] <rick_h> (old gnome do original author)
[23:33] <snap-l> There are people who still listen to fabsh
[23:33] <greg-g> yeah, I no longer follow him, but, surprised he follows fabsh (or someone who does)
[23:33] <greg-g> snap-l: why?
[23:34] <snap-l> greg-g: I'm a programmer, not a fucking mind reader. :)
[23:34] <rick_h> ok, trailer unpackged, lawn mower oil changed along with a new blade, and lawn mowed. I've earned a trip up to the ice cream store /me thinks
[23:35] <snap-l> rick_h: I'm waiting for 8pm to mow the lawn
[23:35] <greg-g> nice
[23:35] <rick_h> camping pics for those interested: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/sets/72157634236817199/ (scroll down past the early pics of the camper itself)
[23:35] <greg-g> ugh, this coffee shop wifi is dropping like its hot
[23:35] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, I wanted until 6pm, but didn't want to risk keeping the boy awake with lawn mower noises.
[23:35] <rick_h> I'm 4 days sans latte now and need a coffee shop...but it's too hot for a latte :/
[23:35] <snap-l> rick_h: I'm pretty sure the neighbor's kids are up long after my bedtime
[23:36] <snap-l> And we don't have that much to mow, so I'll likely be done in a half-hour with the gas mower
[23:36] <rick_h> love this one, poor guy was beat wating for the hay ride http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/9116839681/in/set-72157634236817199
[23:36] <rick_h> snap-l: I thought you had a scissor mower?
[23:36] <snap-l> I have both now
[23:37] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, I've got a little bit more. Though I do <3 being able to mulch with the new blade installed. Went a lot faster.
[23:37] <snap-l> That picture is adorable
[23:37] <snap-l> Yeah, if I can't mulch, I'll turn the damn thing into asphalt
[23:37] <rick_h> we wore him out...and now. To go give daddy good-nights and ride my bike up for some ice cream!
[23:37] <rick_h> ugh, 90% of the time we bag. 4-8 bags depending :(
[23:38] <greg-g> that photo of him on your head is indeed awesome
[23:38] <snap-l> I have a bag on the back of the mower. It's merely a suggestion as far as I can tell
[23:38] <greg-g> highly approve
[23:38] <snap-l> since it all clumps near the front, and is not worth the trouble
[23:40] <snap-l> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/changelog/migration_09.html#columns-can-reliably-get-their-type-from-a-column-referred-to-via-foreignkey
[23:40] <snap-l> Yay