[00:00] <HeadcaseFargone> So just letting it upgrade shouldn't give me any issues then?  I'm still really concerned about it keeping this software RAID5 array intact more than anything
[00:00] <ripoz> i prefer unity because a hierarchial start menu and application menus are inefficient if one menu can catch them all with like 4 keystrokes
[00:01] <d4rkn30> im on a older system so i mainly use xfce and do everything via terminal
[00:02] <ripoz> d4rkn30: about half the time i use headless machines with no GUI installed; the rest of it, i use a desktop. XFCE is pretty good actually.
[00:02] <vt102> I recently updated my 12.04 box, and now ssh forwarding isn't working.  I keep getting "Can't open display:" and my DISPLAY env variable is blank.  I do have "X11Forwarding yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config...what else can I check?
[00:03] <d4rkn30> ripoz, maybe you can tell me if its possible to USB boot S-T-D ? I know its not Ubuntu related
[00:03] <ripoz> std?
[00:03] <d4rkn30> ripoz, Knoppix
[00:03] <Nitro___> ripoz, d4rkn30 hey guys is there a command to reinstall Dash lenses?
[00:03] <ripoz> d4rkn30: I have no idea about knoppix
[00:04] <d4rkn30> ripoz, Thanks Doe <3
[00:07] <james-ubc> hi guys, is there a way to increase the touchpad scroll speed?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> Nitro___, THey are all listed in synaptic if you want to have some control of whats there.
[00:08] <james-ubc> I'm on 12.04, no option of switching
[00:09] <Nitro___> wilee-nilee, okay cause I think I uninstalled some but I just want the one that searches for files back
[00:09] <ripoz> james-ubc: i know there is software to do it, e..g a package called 'synaptic' (not the synaptic package manager) but no idea if working on 12.04
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> Nitro___, You might have to install synaptic just search with unity-lens
[00:10] <Nitro___> wilee-nilee, thx awesome i am looking now
[00:10] <jrib> !synaptics | james-ubc
[00:11] <vt102> Hmmmm...not sure what changed, but I had to mod my sshd_config as follows: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/x-forwarding-though-ssh-not-working-$display-not-set-879365/
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Nitro___, Did you turn off the history in settings-privacy?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> the record activity actually
[00:13] <Nitro___> wilee-nilee, i think so yea, and im not really getting search results, i ran sudo apt-get autoremove unity-lens-music unity-lens-photos unity-lens-gwibber unity-lens-shopping unity-lens-video
[00:13] <Nitro___> wilee-nilee, so I just want the one that searches files back
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Nitro___, I use the gnome shell, so I'm not sure exactly what that is, IO used unity for a while though
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> I*
[00:14] <Nitro___> kraps
[00:15] <james-ubc> jrib, okay but what do I change... synaptics is pretty big...
[00:17] <starsinmypockets> Something is voraciously consuming my filesystem's resources... I installed gkrellm (no display - just command line usage) and am looking for some wisdom regarding setting up some monitoring so that I can determine what beastie is crippling my server
[00:18] <kostkon> starsinmypockets, did you check the size of your /var/log files?
[00:20] <starsinmypockets> https://dpaste.de/a5qgE/
[00:20] <starsinmypockets> Big-ish but this is to the tune of 2gb/hr
[00:21] <Hexagonite> Anyone knows how to fix the screenshot issue with AMD proprietary drivers?
[00:23] <netsurfer912> guys
[00:24] <netsurfer912> who the fuck named the images folder of the canonical design website "porn"?!
[00:24] <netsurfer912> http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/themes/canonical-design/images/porn/
[00:29] <starsinmypockets> What I'm really after is a a good command to use gkrellm to output top disk io activity
[00:29] <sega_dude> Is there another channel for development help? Specifically for Quickly?
[00:30] <kostkon> starsinmypockets, you could also ask in #ubuntu-server
[00:30] <starsinmypockets> kostkon tx - gonna look at sysstat :)
[00:31] <kostkon> sega_dude, try #ubuntu-app-devel
[00:31] <kostkon> starsinmypockets, ok
[00:31] <matu> Hi, please help me, i can't compile a simple hello world using  g++ -c test.cpp . Here is my code http://pastebin.com/61uszqU7 and here is what i get : test.cpp:1:1: erreur: ‘include’ does not name a type
[00:31] <matu> test.cpp: In function ‘int main(int, char**)’:
[00:31] <matu> test.cpp:6:3: erreur: ‘cout’ was not declared in this scope WTF >_<
[00:31] <kostkon> matu, this is the wrong channel for this kind of question
[00:31] <sega_dude> ok thanks kostkon
[00:32] <matu> kostkon, please can you lead me to the right channel ?
[00:32] <kingnick42> I've got a really interesting issue - I can't close maximised application
[00:32] <cgtdk> ##programming
[00:32] <matu> i am getting crazy >_<
[00:32] <matu> thank you
[00:33] <kingnick42> when I mouse over the global menu, I can see the close, maximise, and minimise buttons. But, when I mouse over to them, they dissapear
[00:34] <kingnick42> then when I can get them to show, they do nothing
[00:37] <hip2theehop> //mode $me +x
[00:37] <karlmh> server problem?
[00:37] <karlmh> brb, something strange is going on here
[00:38] <karlmh> there we go :) much better
[00:38] <karlmh> i think i was just in a server split.. havent seen something like that since the efnet days, lol
[00:48] <wutang> i roll deep like a motherfucking puerto rican
[00:52] <Spec-Chum> argh, why is it trying to remove alsa-base when I remove gstreamer plugin
[00:52] <Spec-Chum> getting annoyed lol
[00:52] <Dr_willis> !info alsa-base
[00:52] <Dr_willis> Im guessing its a meta-package
[00:53] <Spec-Chum> Dr_willis: actually, my last comment was a little of the mark, I've got vlc phonon installed so i want to lose the gstreamer one, I can remove that package but it then says all linux audio needs to go :/
[00:53] <Spec-Chum> *off
[00:55] <Dr_willis> bbl
[00:55] <Spec-Chum>  sudo apt-get purge phonon-backend-gstreamer works fine, the 1 package gets purged, BUT it then says linux audio this that, and the other should be removed with autoremove
[00:55] <Spec-Chum> ...and a bunch of gnome keyring stuff
[00:56] <Spec-Chum> stuff it, I can all stay lol
[00:56] <Spec-Chum> s/I/it
[01:10] <orman> what is the proper way to add a C++ program as a startup program. I've tried adding to rc.local, /etc/rc0.d and update-rc.d foo default, none have worked. The C program is TCP server, is there anything else I should know?
[01:12] <th0r> orman, why rc0? that is shutdown if I remember correctly
[01:13] <orman> This article told me rc0.d http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3348-ubuntu-executing-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown
[01:14] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. Ubuntu Sutdio 13.04 comes with blender 2.66b preinstalled. How do I upgrade to 2.67b so that it replaces 2.66bin the applications menu??
[01:15] <orman> http://linuxg.net/blender-2-67-how-to-install-blender-2-67-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04/
[01:15] <Spec-Chum> is networking reliant on gnome keyring?  If I remove keyring I get no network, so I'm guessing so but I'm on a minimal custom KDE build so I want 0 gnome :(
[01:16] <Spec-Chum> can't I make it use KWallet?
[01:16] <redtape|renegade> Morning all.
[01:16] <redtape|renegade> Morning all.
[01:16] <orman> hi
[01:17] <redtape|renegade> Aww an .. I can't wait till 13.10 ... anyone else feel the same ?
[01:17] <Spec-Chum> redtape|renegade: yay, another reinstall lol
[01:17] <Spec-Chum> no, I can wait
[01:18] <orman> I like stable software
[01:18] <redtape|renegade> I'm saving up for a macbook air to get off ebay (prob./ly 2011 model) so I can tor in bed ...
[01:18] <cgtdk> Why not a Thinkpad?
[01:18] <redtape|renegade> scopes make the system sellable for me ..
[01:19] <redtape|renegade> I just like the design..
[01:19] <wheatthin> !ot | redtape|renegade
[01:19] <kostkon> Spec-Chum, i think network manager stores your credentials in there. another choice is wicd-kde
[01:19] <redtape|renegade> oh yeah .. right sorry ..
[01:20] <gsned> looking for a bit of help - have a lvm storage group set up (/dev/storage/clustered).  when i add the entry in fstab to mount automatically on boot system will not boot up yet when no entry in fstab, i can click on the disk in nautilus and it will work an mount.  any suggestions? on ubuntu 13.04
[01:21] <thurstylark> Is there any way to have "vnc://" links open in xvncviewer through firefox?
[01:22] <redtape|renegade> Last question .. before I leaves'  .. Where is the list of 'scopes' that you can get off the scopes package ?
[01:22] <jrib> thurstylark: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[01:23] <kostkon> redtape|renegade, some scopes are in repos, some here https://launchpad.net/~scopes-packagers/+archive/ppa
[01:23] <kostkon> the*
[01:23] <redtape|renegade> thank-yous
[01:30] <Nitro___> does anyone know how to reinstall the stock 13.04 dash lenses?
[01:30] <Nitro___> particularly the one that searches Files
[01:32] <kostkon> Nitro___, sudo apt-get install unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-friends unity-lens-music unity-lens-photos unity-lens-shopping unity-lens-video
[01:32] <kostkon> Nitro___, give the ^^ command
[01:33] <Nitro___> kostkon, YESSSS FINALLY
[01:33] <Nitro___> kostkon, many many thanks
[01:33] <kostkon> Nitro___, :)
[01:33] <dustin_> Hi there. I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 - Having an issue with Window positioning / size. When I close an app, I will re-open it and it will either open up in the top right corner, or bottom left, sometimes even the top left. Is there a way for the window settings of the app to "remember" prior to closing?
[01:33] <Nitro___> kostkon, I have only been using Linux for like a month so I am still getting used to it, but I love it
[01:34] <kostkon> Nitro___, happy that you like it
[01:34] <Nitro___> kostkon, do I have to restart unity?
[01:35] <MaxBoivin> Hello... Not sure if the right place but... I would like to undervolt my laptop (since it keeps overheating).  I'm on 13.04 but every help I find online seems to be for 12.04 and previous and when I try to install the PHC kernel it says it no longer supported...
[01:35] <kostkon> Nitro___, just logout and log back in
[01:35] <Nitro___> kostkon, thank you x100
[01:35] <kostkon> Nitro___, np
[01:36] <MaxBoivin> when I run tlp stat, under "undervolting" it says PHC kernel not available... and I have no idea how to make it available... thanks in advance
[01:36] <daftykins>  dustin_ try holding control then clicking close
[01:37] <afrasos> does any one knows where are the commands of terminal stored?
[01:37] <dustin_> daftykins:  that has to be done on every application? I mean, if I maximize a "notepad", upon closing, shouldn't settings automatically save and when I relaunch it, it opens maximized?
[01:37] <dustin_> daftykins:  regardless, thank you. I'll give it a shot
[01:38] <Dr_willis> afrasos,  'the commands'  ? You mean the history buffer?
[01:38] <afrasos> may be
[01:38] <afrasos> I don't know
[01:38] <Dr_willis> afrasos,  if you dont know what you mean.. then i sure dont.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> history --help         to learn about the bash history feature
[01:38] <Nitro___> kostkon, hey sorry not to bug you but I had one other issue, I was trying to format a micro SD attatched to USB with FAT but the gnome disk untility doesnt have it listen in formatting options??
[01:38] <daftykins> dustin_: not sure i'm afraid, don't use desktop
[01:39] <dustin_> daftykins:  yea, that didn't work. Thanks anyways :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis> dustin_,  some window managers an save/remover window  positions, some dont.  compiz has a feature to set specific window settings if you want
[01:39] <dustin_> Dr_willis:  Ubuntu 13.04 out of the box , doesn't?
[01:40] <daftykins> dustin_: doh
[01:40] <kostkon> Nitro___, hmm I don't think I can help you with that :P
[01:40] <Nitro___> kostkon, k thanks again
[01:41] <chaotix> hello
[01:41] <hairyseaward> Does anyone have any experience using ZFS on linux? In kernel implementation is what I'm referring to.
[01:41] <afrasos> with "the commands" I mean such stuff like "cd", "nmpa" & "ls"
[01:42] <afrasos> there has to be a folder full with links
[01:42] <afrasos> that is what I am searching
[01:44] <th0r> afrasos, /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin
[01:44] <afrasos> thx
[01:46] <orman> for a program that needs to use USB devices. Should I add sleep() before starting it from reboot?
[01:46] <Giwrgaras> hi new guy here
[01:47] <Giwrgaras> ive downloaded postgres for ubuntu and i cannot find a prog to execute it
[01:47] <jrib> orman: you should use upstart, there's probably some event you can wait for
[01:47] <Giwrgaras> any ideas?
[01:47] <orman> jrib, thanks a lot
[01:49] <orman> Giwrgaras, try "apropos postgres" for a list of commands
[01:51] <Lkr_JavA> Ola
[01:51] <Lkr_JavA> Ola
[01:51] <Lkr_JavA> i am Brazilian
[01:51] <Lkr_JavA> i'am Brazilian
[01:51] <Lkr_JavA> quit
[01:51] <k1l> !br | Lkr_JavA
[01:51] <MaxBoivin> Anybody had any luck undervolting a laptop with ubuntu 13.04?
[01:52] <histo> MaxBoivin: why would you undervolt?
[01:52] <MaxBoivin> histo: my laptop is overheating a lot
[01:53] <k1l> MaxBoivin: i did undervolt my homeserver (amd be-2350) but i dont think that it would bring that much on a laptop
[01:53] <k1l> MaxBoivin: ,ake sure you use the right video rifer and that the fan is working right. and that not that much durst is in the laptop
[01:53] <histo> MaxBoivin: clean out the ducts around the cpu fan
[01:54] <Giwrgaras> how do i run progs in ubuntu? ive got a run file and it doesnt know what to do with it
[01:54] <histo> MaxBoivin: make sure you shutdown the laptop and hold the fan in place while you blow out the fan blades and ducts with can of air.  Just make sure you hold the fan from spinning.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> !details > Giwrgaras
[01:55] <MaxBoivin> kil: I first clean out the duct and fan... it helped but if I can still keep it a little cooler...
[01:55] <histo> Giwrgaras: sh somefile.run
[01:55] <mikrob55> join #ubuntu-ar
[01:55] <histo> mikrob55: /join
[01:56] <MaxBoivin> histo: I guess the real solution would be getting a new laptop but... I'm a little tight on cash, so I'll have to try to make this one last as long as possible
[01:56] <Giwrgaras> im running ubuntu 13.04 the newest one and ive dllded postgresql-9.2.4-1-linux-x64
[01:56] <Giwrgaras> and i try to run it to install it
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Giwrgaras, histo: ./somefile.run also works.
[01:57] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: you are more ussed to windows, i assume?
[01:57] <MaxBoivin> kil: To be honnest, I'm not sure what a video rifer is...
[01:57] <Giwrgaras> where do i write it?
[01:57] <Giwrgaras> i am a 5 minute ubuntu user
[01:58] <Giwrgaras> so yes i am i guess
[01:58] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: ubuntu has a software to install softwares, a package manager. this may sound complex now, but it's really great since you can use it as a central tool to install all kind of stuff.
[01:59] <Giwrgaras> its a cmd?
[01:59] <MaxBoivin> histo: Don't you think undervolting the laptop could help a little?
[01:59] <tomreyn> i.e. most of the time you don't need to, and actually should not, download files from some websites and try to rrun those
[01:59] <Giwrgaras> and what is the name of this software?
[01:59] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: are you using a grahpical desktop or a command line interface?
[02:00] <Giwrgaras> i am using ubuntu 13.04
[02:00] <nrdb> Hi... I am trying to compile an example kernel module ... I am getting the error "error: unknown field ‘owner’ specified in initialiser"  ... this is on a kernel structure "usb_driver" ... I looked in the header files, and this element isn't in that structure... what do I do?     can I just comment out this line?
[02:00] <Giwrgaras> a graphical interface
[02:00] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: the graphical desktop, i assume. you did not download the "server edition", right?
[02:01] <tomreyn> ok, on the left panel you should have an icon which allows you to install software
[02:01] <tomreyn> it's called software center or something
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> tomreyn, Giwrgaras: Ubuntu Software Center
[02:02] <thurstylark> Anyone know how to get firefox to open "vnc://" links in xvncviewer?
[02:02] <Giwrgaras> aha found it ok.
[02:02] <orman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[02:02] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: now start it and just search for postgresql
[02:03] <Giwrgaras> just upgrading and my system lags a bit i am installing 240 updates or something
[02:03] <Giwrgaras> and there i write those sudo apt things?
[02:03] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: if that's the first time you're installing updates then that's well possible
[02:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Giwrgaras: All you have to do is find the package and hit "Install"
[02:04] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: do you need a specific version of postgresql?
[02:05] <th0r> thurstylark, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[02:05] <Giwrgaras> the newest
[02:05] <Giwrgaras> just like the one i have in win8
[02:05] <Giwrgaras> 9.2
[02:06] <tomreyn> ubuntu has 9.1, is that a problem?
[02:07] <thurstylark> th0r: I tried following those instructions, but to no avail. I also tried vinagre as my client, but it would not work with my server. Do you know of another client that will register a protocol like vinagre?
[02:07] <Giwrgaras> where is that
[02:08] <Giwrgaras> i tried the ubuntu software center and all i found is pgadmin
[02:08] <th0r> thurstylark, I found any number of links in a search on duckduckgo....https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+define+a+protocol+in+firefox
[02:10] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: when i search for "postgresql" it is listed on top
[02:10] <Giwrgaras> on the top of mine is pgadmin 3
[02:10] <Giwrgaras> sorry
[02:10] <Giwrgaras> wrote it just  'postgres'
[02:11] <tomreyn> so you see it now?
[02:11] <Giwrgaras> and really where do i write sudo apt to get the programs easily?
[02:11] <Giwrgaras> yes i see it
[02:11] <tomreyn> if you prefer to work with a command line interface then you start a terminal
[02:12] <tomreyn> this should have a black box icon, just like a temrinal. if it's not already on the panel on the left then click the top left button again and type "terminal"
[02:12] <Giwrgaras> i opened one it has a cool terminal
[02:13] <barfod> Giwrgaras,  "apt-cache search some_program_name" to search the archives
[02:14] <aamer> hello room
[02:15] <Giwrgaras> "apt  - cache search python: command not found
[02:15] <tomreyn> no spaces between "apt", "-" and "cache"
[02:15] <TheJack> hi aamer
[02:16] <Giwrgaras> "apt-cache search python"
[02:16] <Giwrgaras> like that?
[02:16] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: to install postgresql from the shell, you would run "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install postgresql"
[02:16] <tomreyn> yes
[02:16] <Giwrgaras> apt-cache search python: command not found
[02:16] <Giwrgaras> oh
[02:16] <Giwrgaras> without the "
[02:17] <Giwrgaras> .. yes
[02:17] <tomreyn> right
[02:17] <aamer> TheJack hi, so i installed wine and there's an old windows application that doesn't support unicode, I've seen other options in other distros to set the system locale but they don't seem available here in GNOME, so how can I do it from the terminal? (default language for non-unicode programs: arabic)
[02:18] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: are you just experimenting with htis system, or do you plan to put postgresql to productive use soon?
[02:18] <aamer> TheJack it's not too old it works on win7 x86 and x64, and it's not just one application, the problem is more general.. :)
[02:18] <Giwrgaras> i am experimenting and want to see if i will use my postgres here or in windows
[02:18] <TheJack> prepare for the "apt-get update" takes some time to finish
[02:19] <Giwrgaras> im kinda dissapointed with the new ones and thinking of migration
[02:19] <aamer> TheJack me?
[02:19] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: since if performance matters most and you are happy to use a text based shell only then you would not install the graphical variant of ubuntu but ubuntu server (which is also free)
[02:20] <mildfate> I just got a ubuntu 13 server and I have no idea what I'm doing. How do I download and install nomachine via the command line so that I can see a desktop?
[02:20] <Giwrgaras> for ease of use
[02:21] <Giwrgaras> i dont know ubuntu and ill go to a ubuntu server? sounds complicated
[02:21] <tomreyn> Giwrgaras: well then you did it well ;)
[02:21] <nnyk_> please what is the correct format of this tar command, 'tar -cvf archive.tar /path/to/file/ --exclude-caches-all --exclude-backups --exclude=folder'? cos its returning an empty file
[02:21] <mildfate> Giwrgaras: can you help?
[02:22] <barfod> why does it need all of the extra flags ?
[02:22] <tomreyn> mildfate: i don't think nomachine NX (I assume that's what you mean) is supported by ubuntu
[02:22] <barfod> and -c is for create
[02:22] <barfod> -v is for verbose
[02:22] <nnyk_> i want to exclude some dirs and some have cache files in them which i dont want to include
[02:22] <aamer> TheJack
[02:23] <tomreyn> mildfate: you are trying to remote control some other graphcal system?
[02:23] <aamer> the problem is not about fonts
[02:23] <aamer> it's about system locale
[02:23] <aamer> I don't wanna use ubuntu in arabic
[02:23] <barfod> i use squashfs for that with the -e flag nnyk_ , but tar is good, just as you can see a little more difficult
[02:24] <mildfate> tomreyn: I'm sshing into my new ubuntu box with the -X flag to allow forwarding but x11 is extremely slow
[02:24] <nnyk_> yeah, i certainly can see that...
[02:24] <TheJack> hey <mildfate  look here http://www.nomachine.com/documents/plugin/install.php
[02:24] <mildfate> I heard no machine nx was fast
[02:24] <nnyk_> barfod: but the format is correct yeah?
[02:24] <aamer> I dont wanna set the display lang to arabic but I wanna set the locale to arabic, also, I don't want the formatting (date and time blah blah) to be arabic
[02:24] <TheJack> hey mildfate  look here http://www.nomachine.com/documents/plugin/install.php
[02:24] <aamer> anyone?
[02:25] <tomreyn> aamer: you said what you don't want to do, what is it wthat you do want to do?
[02:25] <aamer> and it's not just about wine apps
[02:25] <barfod> nnyk_, give me mintue and ill open the man pages and test it for you. something i have been meaning to do anyway. to make a tar based liveCD to replace my squashfs based system
[02:25] <mildfate> TheJack: how will I use this?  I can't get to a browser
[02:26] <nnyk_> alright thanks..ill also check on my end
[02:26] <tomreyn> mildfate: have you tried vnc, yet?
[02:26] <tomreyn> what is your client running?
[02:26] <mildfate> tomreyn: I haven't, I don't know what that is
[02:26] <TheJack> use the lynx
[02:27] <mildfate> ubuntu 13.04
[02:27] <TheJack> use the lynx mildfate
[02:27] <mildfate> do you mean links? or is lynx a thing
[02:27] <barfod>  /path/to/file/  has to be a real absolute or relative path
[02:27] <barfod> not sure if you caught that nnyk_
[02:28] <aamer> tomreyn in windows, the system locale is explained as: default language to use for programs that don't support unicode, I've seen this in arch linux, so is there a way to do it here in ubuntu from the terminal?
[02:28] <barfod> start from / using auto complete to get your relative path correct
[02:28] <TheJack> apt-get install lynx ... and them lynx www.webpage.com
[02:28] <tomreyn> mildfate: VNC is the de facto standard for a graphical remote control application, so if you have a graphical desktop on both your local and the remote computer and prefer grpahical interfaces over text based ones, VNC is probably want youwant, or at least want to give a try before you try somethnig else.
[02:28] <nnyk_> barfod: sorry?
[02:29] <barfod> try this instead:  go to the directory you want to tar and type:  tar -cvf archive.tar .  --exclude-caches-all --exclude-backups --exclude=folder
[02:29] <barfod> "." means current dir
[02:29] <tomreyn> aamer: well possible, but i do not know how. try a websearch, i would say.
[02:29] <aamer> tomreyn I want ubuntu to display non-unicode arabic applications correctly instead of latin and funny symbols
[02:29] <TheJack> mildfate lynx its a program to access web pages through the terminal
[02:29] <mildfate> TheJack: got it, thanks
[02:29] <barfod> well it actually is the source command as well. but in this case it is  a "relative path" to the current dir
[02:29] <TheJack> :)
[02:30] <TheJack> i brb
[02:30] <aamer> tomreyn I tried, but I'll try again, for a third time... :(
[02:30] <tomreyn> aamer: i could possibly tell you how to set it globally for all applications, or how to do it for single applications, but not how to do it for all applications which do not support unicode.
[02:30] <barfod> and --exclude needs some /path/to/folders  as well
[02:31] <mildfate> tomreyn: I install vncserver on my ubuntu box.  Then install vnc viewer on my mac?
[02:31] <aamer> tomreyn could it be impossible in ubuntu? I don't think so!
[02:31] <wxl> mildfate: if it's recent os x, you already have one.
[02:31] <nnyk_> oh...yeah, i missed that i needed to include the absolute path
[02:32] <mildfate> wxl: Is it called vnc viewer?
[02:32] <aamer> anyway i'll do another deep search with black coffee and see what can I do
[02:32] <mildfate> wxl: I'm on os x 10.8.4
[02:32] <nnyk_> barfod: that worked, thanks
[02:32] <tomreyn> mildfate: a vnc server is already installed o ubuntu if you installed the graphical desktop
[02:33] <nnyk_> barfod:needed to put the absolute path to the folders i was excluding
[02:33] <mildfate> tomreyn: I guess I'm not sure I did that.  I did "install ubuntu-desktop".  Was that right?
[02:33] <wxl> mildfate: it's called screen sharing
[02:33] <wxl> mildfate: i believe you can use vnc://server:port addressing in finder
[02:34] <histo> mildfate: yes
[02:34] <mildfate> histo: Is it called vncserver? Or something else?
[02:34] <tomreyn> mildfate: i was referring to the installation iso you downloaded. but if you installed the ubuntu-desktpü package (which you just saidyou did) then that should have ensures you have it, too.
[02:35] <barfod> nnyk_, np
[02:35] <histo> mildfate: in my dash it's called "Desktop Sharing"
[02:35] <histo> mildfate: press the Super Key   or click the dash icon and type sharing
[02:35] <tomreyn> mildfate: the vnc server i was referring to is called vino, you should be ale to configure it through the menu (click the top left icon and type "vino" or "vnc", that should help you find it)
[02:35] <mildfate> So, I have vncserver on my ubuntu and I've been given a new ip address (I guess).  Is screen sharing an app in os x?
[02:36] <tomreyn> oh desktop sharing then
[02:36] <orman> chicken of the vnc is free on mac
[02:36] <mildfate> tomreyn: Oh!  I don't have access to the menu, I'm sshd into the ubuntu box.  So I'm on command line
[02:36] <orman> yea also screen sharing is an app
[02:36] <wxl> there's a bunch of free vnc clients for the mac, all of which come from that time (before 10.4) that there was no native vnc client
[02:37] <tomreyn> mildfate: but this remote ubuntu system does have a graphical desktop and is supposed to have one?
[02:37] <orman> I use chicken of the vnc because it's faster
[02:37] <mildfate> tomreyn: I want it to and, as I understand it, the way to do that was to install ubuntu-desktop.  I'm unsure if more is required
[02:38] <tomreyn> mildfate: if i recall correctly, this should suffice.
[02:38] <tomreyn> mildfate: you said earlier that you ran graphical applications using X forwarding, do i remember that correctly?
[02:39] <tomreyn> mildfate: so using ssh -X
[02:39] <mildfate> tomreyn: Yea, but it was horrifically slow, that's why I'm trying to do this
[02:39] <mildfate> yea
[02:39] <barfod> it will still be slow
[02:39] <wxl> imho no remote connection tool is really that fast
[02:39] <tomreyn> mildfate: okay but do it once more now just to setup VNC. run "vino-preferences" with X forwarding
[02:40] <mildfate> should I shut-off the vncserver?
[02:40] <barfod> use a tmux session, and console apps.
[02:40] <wxl> +1 barfod
[02:40] <tomreyn> mildfate: which vncserver are you running?
[02:40] <mildfate> barfod: well, ultimately I'm trying to install matlab
[02:40] <tomreyn> mildfate: i wasn't aware that you are running one already
[02:40]  * wxl wonders if freemat has a cli interface
[02:40] <mildfate> tomreyn: I don't know, I just entered the command "vncserver" and it gave me some info
[02:41] <tomreyn> mildfate: do you feel like sharing that info with us? if it's more than three lines please use a pastebin
[02:41] <tomreyn> !paste
[02:41] <mildfate> tomreyn: err… how do I keep people from logging into it?
[02:41] <barfod> ah, understood. might have to just sync filesystems to share changes to your base of data. trying to direct the graphical sessions around will likely always be slow, and difficult to port.
[02:42] <barfod> not to discourage you. it sounds cool. but that is why i dont use it much. my equipment is just to slow to start
[02:42] <histo> mildfate: How did you install vncserver?
[02:42] <mildfate> apt-get install vnc4server
[02:43] <mildfate> tomreyn:?
[02:43] <histo> mildfate: what  is your question now?
[02:43] <tomreyn> mildfate: so now you have 2 vnc servers. histo is doing a good job, carry on with him, i need to get some sleep.
[02:43] <barfod> sometimes people get stuck with crappy ssh connection as well.  10Mib where it should be at least 35
[02:44] <barfod> thats would really screw any chance for effective X forwarding
[02:44] <histo> mildfate: is there a reason you don't want to use the built in remote desktop application?
[02:44] <mildfate> histo: Okay, here's the story.  I'm trying to install a student license of matlab onto my ubuntu box.  I tried doing it commandline, but in order to do that it requires a fileactivationkey—which I'm not allowed to have because it's a student license.  So then I tried to installing it using tunneling with -X but it was far too slow.  So now I'm trying to show my ubuntu ui so I can install it
[02:45] <mildfate> histo: I can use whatever I need to, I just haven't heard of a lot of essential programs because I'm fairly new to linux and a complete newb to ubuntu
[02:45] <histo> mildfate: use the built in desktop sharing application
[02:45] <mildfate> histo: in ubuntu?  what's it called / how do I use it?
[02:45] <niranjan_> Hi there, is there a way so that automatic suspend/hibernate won't kick in if I am using ssh
[02:45] <histo> mildfate: I told you press the windows key... or click the dash icon and type in sharing   it will come up as the first result. Then just click the "Desktop Sharing" applicaiton
[02:46] <niranjan_> I use ssh to connect to other box, but that box is set to hibernate after certain inactive period, I don't want it to suspend if I am connected remotely
[02:46] <mildfate> histo: I'm on my mac though, the ubuntu box is in the close
[02:46] <mildfate> * in the cloud
[02:46] <histo> mildfate: ahh  hold up
[02:46] <mildfate> I don't have Desktop Sharing.app
[02:46] <mildfate> histo: hahah, see?  complicated
[02:47] <mildfate> atm, I'm sshd into the ubuntu box
[02:48] <histo> mildfate: ssh -X vino-preferences user@yourbox
[02:48] <histo> mildfate: that will allow you to setup the desktop sharing
[02:49] <min|dvir|us> Anyone use CouchDB?
[02:49] <histo> mildfate: sorry ssh -X user@yourbox vino-preferences
[02:49] <min|dvir|us> I'm trying to get multiple CouchDB instances running on different ports. Anyone have experience with that?
[02:49] <histo> mildfate: then connect to it via a vnc viewer application
[02:50] <histo> min|dvir|us: what is couchdb?
[02:50] <min|dvir|us> histo: if you can connect to IRC, you can Google. :)
[02:51] <Dr_willis> min|dvir|us,  he could give the same answer to you also. ;P
[02:51] <histo> min|dvir|us: Then google your issue
[02:51] <min|dvir|us> No, he couldn't, because he doesn't know what CouchDB is.
[02:51] <mildfate> histo: A dialog came up, but it's, again, incredibly slow to respond, will this be what it's like when I vnc?
[02:51] <min|dvir|us> And, rule #1 of IRC states: google before you come to IRC.
[02:52] <sam113101> can someone give me the default gnome-terminal color scheme in ubuntu?
[02:52] <min|dvir|us> Hence, my presence.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> mildfate,  with vnc. i find it best to use the lightest window manager you can when using vnc. it can be very sluggish.
[02:52] <histo> min|dvir|us: It maybe a little faster. VNC is slow without compression.  The other option is teamviewer
[02:52] <histo> mildfate: sorry ^^^^^^^
[02:52] <mildfate> histo: that's okay, I'll see what I can do with this for now.  So, I close the dialog box with "allow others to control you desktop" checked.  What's next?
[02:53] <histo> min|dvir|us: ask in the apache room
[02:54] <histo> mildfate: also I would uncheck that you have to accept it upon request... and use a password.  Is this ubuntu box located on the web somewhere or local lan?
[02:54] <mildfate> histo: on the web, but it has an insane dns so it's not likely to be found
[02:54] <Campfire> is there any way to back to a restore point on ubuntu
[02:54] <histo> mildfate: oh boy well I would secure vnc then
[02:54] <min|dvir|us> histo: thanks for the suggestion.
[02:54] <histo> mildfate: or use teamviewer
[02:54] <Campfire> go back to
[02:55] <histo> !vnc | mildfate
[02:55] <histo> Campfire: What's the problem?
[02:55] <mildfate> histo: why? it's not likely someone will find it
[02:55] <mildfate> histo: or someone I don't know try to login
[02:55] <Campfire> oh long story i need to go back in time
[02:55] <histo> mildfate: they will find it within hours
[02:55] <mildfate> histo: I'll just set a password, it's fine
[02:55] <histo> mildfate: and brute force it
[02:56] <Campfire> long story got setting right then messed them up
[02:56] <mildfate> histo: what's the right way to go about this
[02:56] <histo> Campfire: do you have backups
[02:56] <Campfire> yeah
[02:56] <histo> mildfate: well teamviewer is pretty secure and fast... or read the instructions from ubottu above
[02:56] <Campfire> i have not created backups though
[02:57] <histo> Campfire: Settings for what?
[02:57] <Campfire> anyway ubuntu might have by default
[02:57] <KriShANsiN> Campfire: isnt it funny how Mac computers have this time machine constant emphasis on being able to back up to an earlier desktop, but with the iPhone and iPad they do the opposite, thye will do ANYThing to keep you from downgrading to earlier firmware.?
[02:58] <daftykins> KriShANsiN: no, because backing up your data isn't running an old OS
[02:58] <mildfate> histo: Next step: install teamviewer on the ubuntu box?
[02:58] <KriShANsiN> daftykins: yeah, and its not a Ubuntu related comment either sorry.
[02:58] <histo> mildfate: I would or use vnc over ssh.
[02:58] <Campfire> not so funny
[02:58] <histo> mildfate: teamviewer would probably be faster.
[02:59] <daftykins> KriShANsiN: that's cool i don't enforce 'the law' around here much ;)
[02:59] <Campfire> well in the future how do i do backups
[02:59] <histo> Campfire: we could help if you would give us details
[02:59] <mildfate> histo: ok, I'll try installing teamviewer on my ubuntu 13 via command line
[02:59] <histo> !details | Campfire
[02:59] <histo> mildfate: yeah install the deb and forward the X app via ssh to set it up.
[03:01] <Campfire> i dealeted the screen fade program then did something else after it worked and get a bunch of error msg,s that block out the first consol
[03:01] <Campfire> after sign in
[03:02] <histo> Campfire: Can you describe the "something else"
[03:02] <histo> Campfire: and which screen fade program?
[03:03] <Campfire> ok i need to somehow trouble shoot to the error buntu thingy
[03:03] <Campfire> i,m lost on all the names of things on ubuntu
[03:04] <histo> Campfire: whats the error? if it's long paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <mildfate> histo: I get this error "dpkg: error processing teamviewer_linux_x64.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[03:04] <histo> mildfate: what is the command you are running
[03:04] <mildfate> histo: Oh, wait, I need to dl it first
[03:04] <histo> mildfate: yes
[03:05] <mildfate> histo: How do I dl the package via cli?
[03:05] <Campfire> gnome brightness applet i think i turned off in term its been weeks sence i did it
[03:05] <histo> mildfate: wget http://www.somewebsite.com/somefile.deb
[03:05] <histo> Campfire: what is the erro?
[03:05] <Campfire> the error is gnome brightness applet
[03:06] <Campfire> it asks me if i want to deleat it and won,t alow me
[03:06] <Campfire> allow
[03:06] <histo> !paste | Campfire
[03:07] <Campfire> pluss the error mmsg comes up about 20 times locking screen
[03:08] <histo> mildfate: wget http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb
[03:09] <Giwrgaras> can you tell me one more time please how to download postgres 9.1 from the terminal?
[03:09] <mildfate> I got that, when I do the dpkg command I get: "dpkg: error processing teamviewer (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.  Errors were encountered while processing: teamviewer"
[03:09] <Giwrgaras> restarted the pc and lost the logs..
[03:09] <mildfate> histo: googleing now
[03:09] <histo> mildfate: googleing what?
[03:09] <mildfate> the error
[03:09] <Campfire> ubotto i can,t even copy and paste what is said so that won,t fly
[03:10] <mildfate> histo: I got that, when I do the dpkg command I get: "dpkg: error processing teamviewer (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.  Errors were encountered while processing: teamviewer"
[03:10] <histo> mildfate: what command are you running to install the deb?
[03:10] <mildfate> histo: "sudo dpkg -i teamviewer_linux_x64.deb"
[03:11] <histo> mildfate: what dependency is it looking for?
[03:12] <mildfate> histo: http://pastebin.com/HqwQKtvJ
[03:12] <Campfire> ok brightness aplet where would i look for the thing if all in one place and could i apt get the code and replace if possible
[03:13] <daftykins> don't know if incoherent or troll...
[03:13] <Campfire> i can deal with my prob teamviewer seems interesting
[03:14] <histo> mildfate: apt-get -f install
[03:15] <histo> mildfate: or use gdebi to install the package as it will resolve dependancies for you
[03:15] <mildfate> http://pastebin.com/Ug8ya8kv
[03:16] <KriShANsiN> anyone know the photo bin website for pics like pastebin ?
[03:16] <orangerobot> hi i'm about to download and install a new AMD driver for my graphics card. i'm running ubuntu 12.04. last time I've tried to update my driver i had a few problems and eventually had to revert to the old one. should I try and download the newest driver version and install it on 12.04 or is it better if I update ubuntu version first?
[03:16] <histo> mildfate: do you still have dpkg running?
[03:16] <mildfate> I guess
[03:16] <mildfate> histo: it runs in the bg?
[03:17] <mildfate> histo: http://pastebin.com/Ug8ya8kv
[03:17] <histo> mildfate: No you can only have one application installing software at a time. That latest error shows that something else is currently installing software.
[03:17] <Campfire> should installing team viewer be this hard
[03:17] <histo> Campfire: he's doing it over ssh and using commands that don't resolve dependencies
[03:18] <Campfire> oh ok
[03:18] <histo> mildfate: basically do this... sudo apt-get install gdebi    then  sudo gdebi teamviewer....deb
[03:18] <mildfate> histo: I need to talk to my gf, it's her birthday.  I'll brb though, please don't go away!
[03:19] <Campfire> ty this is interesting
[03:20] <Campfire> so ssh to manualy install depenencies
[03:20] <Campfire> bear with missspell
[03:21] <histo> Campfire: no gdebi  installs dependencies. dpkg doesn't and ssh is a remote connection protocol.
[03:21] <Campfire> ty
[03:22] <histo> Campfire: ssh allows you to access the command line from over the network on another computer or device.
[03:22] <histo> and much more
[03:22] <Campfire> ok
[03:22] <Campfire> whats gdebi
[03:22] <daftykins> mildfate: can you say happy bday from daftykins and tell me how weirded out she is?
[03:22] <histo> Campfire: a tool to install deb files
[03:23] <histo> Campfire: Anyhoot can you please post a screenshot of your error?  Or paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <Campfire> guessing you need the pc name pass to do through ssh and have different ip,s
[03:25] <daftykins> histo: i salute your bravery sir, however i must sleep now, hold the fort for me won't you? \o
[03:25] <reduz> hi guys question what is the best way to install the AMD Radeon closed source drivers on ubuntu? I do 3D and need better performance..
[03:25] <Campfire> can we talk about ssh instead
[03:25] <daftykins> !graphics | reduz
[03:25] <daftykins> !ati | reduz
[03:25] <Campfire> i,m learning as we speak
[03:26] <daftykins> reduz: have a read there ^
[03:26] <histo> !ssh | Campfire
[03:26] <reduz> thank you! checking
[03:27] <Campfire> ok say i want to ssh a pc with permision how do i do it command wise
[03:27] <jswagner> ssh <computername>
[03:28] <histo> Campfire: ssh user@some.computers.ip.address
[03:28] <Campfire> if i did not give permisision for someone to ssh me ould i scan my network for running ssh,s
[03:29] <Campfire> trying to see both sides
[03:29] <jswagner> can you rephrase the question
[03:29] <Campfire> if i did not give permission for someone to ssh me could i scan my network for running ssh,s
[03:29] <histo> Campfire: you need to have sshd running for someone to even connect. It's not enabled by default
[03:30] <jswagner> i think he's asking if there's a way to see what ssh sessions are open
[03:30] <orman> Campfire, try out nmap command
[03:30] <FZombie> I wonder why software center takes 20 times longer to install the same package when compared to just apt-get install packagename I've got the fastest ivybridge i5 and enough ram.
[03:30] <histo> Campfire: if you're asking to be able to see the traffic? it's encrypted.
[03:30] <histo> Campfire: if you read the first link from ubottu about ssh it will explain alot
[03:31] <Campfire> ty
[03:32] <Campfire> well other then ssh are there any other remotes i should worry about
[03:32] <histo> Campfire: Not by default
[03:34] <Campfire> ok not by default but lets say a crafty friend on my pc that likes to snoop by turning on stuff
[03:34] <Baribal_> Where can I find a kickstart file for use with cobbler to deploy networked, SSHable, but otherwise mostly bare VMs?
[03:35] <jswagner> Campfire: obviously you need to be aware of what's going on on your computer.  but this isn't an ubuntu-specific problem.
[03:35] <Baribal_> ...or any "official" kickstar file, anyways?
[03:37] <jswagner> Campfire: perhaps this will be of some use: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[03:38] <Campfire> ok being spacific if by chance any remotes are on is there a way to reset default settings so no one can get through
[03:38] <jswagner> there are some nice security testing tools there that are specific to Ubuntu
[03:38] <Campfire> ok ty
[03:38] <Campfire> i,ll look at that
[03:38] <Campfire> carry on i goot a bit to read
[03:40] <histo> Campfire: ss -antl      to see what is lisetning
[03:42] <histo> guess ss -ntl would be sufficient
[03:43] <jenia> hello everyone.
[03:43] <jenia> how do i connect to an ftp server running on ubuntu from another ubuntu machine
[03:43] <jenia> ?
[03:43] <jenia> basically what ip address do i use?
[03:43] <jswagner> find the IP address on the target computer
[03:44] <orman> ftp user@othercomputerip.com
[03:44] <jenia> okay i know it
[03:44] <jenia> but know do i tell it what computer on that network
[03:44] <jenia> like my ip is blablabla
[03:44] <jenia> but the computer on that netowrk is blablabla:101
[03:44] <Campfire> js i just looked at the site they gave me and these security tools i,m interested in to
[03:44] <jenia> how do i say that?
[03:45] <histo> jenia: edit your /etc/hosts    create a line with computername   ip address
[03:45] <histo> jenia: sorry ipaddress    computername
[03:45] <orman> jenia, what is the :101 ?
[03:45] <histo> dyslexic today
[03:45] <orman> port number shouldn't be needed
[03:45] <jenia> that the name of the computer on that network. like the computer internal ip is 168.162.1.101
[03:46] <Campfire> js when you get a chance can you give me the name of all the tools
[03:46] <jswagner> jenia: ftp <IPAddress>
[03:46] <orman> you have a user name for the ftp?
[03:46] <jenia> so i want to say jenia@external_ip.101
[03:46] <jswagner> Campfire: no, you'll have to do this research on your own
[03:46] <orman> it would be jenia@168.162.1.101
[03:46] <orman> ftp jenia@168.162.1.101
[03:47] <Campfire> er
[03:47] <Campfire> ty
[03:47] <orman> anyone know why a C++ program's output is not being redirected with nohup?
[03:48] <orman> I did nohup program > log.txt &
[03:48] <histo> orman: check for nohup.out
[03:48] <histo> orman:
[03:48] <histo> orman: ~/nohup.out
[03:49] <orman> I redirected output, my log.txt has nothing in it
[03:49] <Campfire> whoes js now
[03:50] <orman> I'll try default nohup program &
[03:51] <histo> orman: yeah no reason to redirect when it already does it by default
[03:51] <histo> Campfire: what?
[03:51] <Campfire> ic
[03:51] <orman> do programs that need to use internet need any special treatment when placed in rc.local?
[03:53] <newmember> Is there a 'how to' install openstack with 13.04 somewhere?
[03:53] <histo> orman: network would have to come up first
[03:53] <histo> orman: and programs in rc.local have to exit status 0
[03:54] <histo> orman: What are you trying to do at startup?
[03:54] <orman> histo: the program I built loops forever as a server
[03:54] <orman> tcp server
[03:55] <agu10^> hey
[03:55] <orman> the end of rc.local has exit 0, does it also need return 0 in code?
[03:55] <histo> orman: create an upstart job
[03:55] <orman> k
[03:56] <agu10^> I have a git hook that I run under the user ubuntu. But it always gets permission denied when trying to overwrite files, even though it owns them! How do i give it permission if it should already have it?!?!
[03:56] <histo> orman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[04:01] <rcICE> ly
[04:04] <dotcom> Hello there. I downloaded a bunch of GIF files. These are all serialized like p1.gif, p2.gif, p3.gif,........ p100.gif. Now i want to convert them serially into a single pdf file. I tried it using "convert *.gif result.pdf" ,  but i am not getting i want.
[04:04] <dotcom> The generated pdf is not serially arranged.
[04:04] <orman> agu10: check user permissions with ls -l
[04:05] <dotcom> Instead the convert utility is arranging them in pdf file according to file size, and not according to serial numbers.
[04:05] <devslash> ive got an issue with unity. my trackpad randomly seems to trigger the application switcher that you get by doing alt tab. is there a way to disable this feature
[04:05] <dotcom> What can i do?
[04:05] <rafael__> Guys, where I decompress themes for gdm?
[04:06] <varunendra> dotcom, rename them so they contain equal number of digits between "p" and ".gif". convert command has this issue.
[04:06] <jamescarr> having issues resolving apt sources???
[04:06] <jamescarr> https://gist.github.com/jamescarr/5843759
[04:10] <histo> rafael__: /usr/share/gdm/themes
[04:10] <histo> rafael__: are you sure you are using gdm and not lightdm?
[04:11] <Freze> hi all is there a way to make font sharper?
[04:11] <Freze> like cleartype on windows?
[04:13] <agu10^> what do you think of my site? http://potentialstudio.com/
[04:13] <rafael__> histo: Yes, I'm using the gdm, but the folder mentioned there not exist.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> agu10^, THat's considered spam.
[04:13] <agu10^> i'm asking for opinions
[04:13] <histo> rafael__: did you install gdm and switch the login manager?
[04:14] <jamescarr> yeah, it's failing pretty consistently
[04:14] <bazhang> agu10^, dont paste that here
[04:14] <jamescarr> you guys turned precise apt repos off dincha
[04:14] <jamescarr> dincha
[04:14] <rafael__> histo: yes
[04:14] <dotcom> varunendra: Thank you. It worked. I have another issue. In other folder i have about 1300 GIF files. Now it will be quite difficult for me to manually convert them to contain same number of digits. What can be done in that case?
[04:14] <devslash> i keep triggering the application switcher from my trackpad by accident. is there a way to disable it
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> jamescarr, Most of the errors are 3rd parties
[04:15] <jamescarr> Err http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security Release.gpg
[04:15] <jamescarr> that is not a 4rd party
[04:15] <jamescarr> *3rd
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> jamescarr, Thats just a key.
[04:15] <varunendra> dotcom, if their names are in same pattern, you can use "rename" command (see "man rename"), or use a gui program like "krename"
[04:15] <jamescarr> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[04:15] <dotcom> ty
[04:16] <jamescarr> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/InRelease
[04:16] <histo> rafael__: it should be there.  If not possibly look around on gnome-look.org or in gdm's documentation
[04:16] <jamescarr> nevermind
[04:16] <mildfate> histo: you there?
[04:16] <histo> mildfate: yes
[04:16] <varunendra> dotcom, rename command works almost same as "sed 's/...' " command. If you are familiar with sed, it should be easier and more flexible for you than krename.
[04:16] <rafael__> histo: ok, thank you, i will look
[04:16] <mildfate> histo: hey, sorry that took forever, gf just turned 20
[04:17] <mildfate> histo: Alright, so what's my steps.
[04:17] <histo> mildfate: Have you taken any attempts to secure ssh?
[04:17] <histo> mildfate: sudo apt-get install gdebi
[04:17] <histo> mildfate: then sudo gdebi teamviewer.whatever.deb
[04:17] <SuperLag> gdebi++
[04:17] <SuperLag> it's awesome
[04:18] <Bob-KD7MY> mildfate
[04:18] <SuperLag> Question. Just read someone else's description of the same laptop model I have, with the same video card... but they're saying their video card has twice as much RAM as what I think mine does. Is there a way to tell how much VRAM you have, in Linux?
[04:18] <mildfate> histo: I get this error again: dpkg: error processing teamviewer (--install):
[04:18] <mildfate>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:18] <mildfate> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:18] <mildfate>  teamviewer
[04:18] <mildfate> Bob-KD7MY: Sup
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > mildfate
[04:19] <histo> mildfate: don't use dpkg  use gdebi
[04:19] <SuperLag> whoa
[04:19] <SuperLag> Nevermind. I found it.
[04:19] <histo> SuperLag: do share
[04:19] <SuperLag> So this thing has twice as much VRAM as I thought. Nice.
[04:19] <mildfate> histo: I did, I guess gdebi calls dpkg? http://pastebin.com/1dKVPawr
[04:20] <drumsticks77> hi, is anyone willing to help a noob out with a simple python task?
[04:20] <SuperLag> histo: it's an Nvidia... so there's an item in the Settings Manager (this is Xubuntu) for the Nvidia stuff
[04:20] <histo> !info ia32-libs
[04:20] <SuperLag> it sure does
[04:20] <SuperLag> that is incorrect
[04:21] <SuperLag> drumsticks77: if it's generic to any Linux, someone here may be able to help... otherwise, it may be a question better asked in #python.
[04:22] <histo> mildfate: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the universe repository is uncommented.
[04:22] <histo> mildfate: then sudo apt-get update and try again
[04:23] <SuperLag> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5791548/
[04:23] <SuperLag> drumsticks77: you going to ask? :)
[04:24] <mildfate> histo: which line will that be?
[04:24] <histo> SuperLag: I know it's there I don't know why ubottu doesn't show it
[04:24] <histo> mildfate: paste your sources.list file
[04:27] <SuperLag> s/paste/pastebin :)
[04:27] <mildfate> histo: http://pastebin.com/2SkKSeYr
[04:28] <drumsticks77> superlag: i went over to python. thanks though
[04:29] <histo> mildfate: universe is enabled. What about apt-cache search ia32-libs   does that have any output?
[04:29] <mildfate> histo: Does it matter my arch is 64?
[04:29] <histo> mildfate: You need the ia32-libs for teamviewer to work on 64bit
[04:29] <mildfate> hist: apt-cache search ia32-libs
[04:29] <mildfate> ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries - transitional package
[04:32] <mildfate> histo: apt-cache search ia32-libs
[04:32] <mildfate> ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries - transitional package
[04:33] <histo> mildfate: sudo dpkg -r teamviewer....deb && sudo gdebi teamviewer..deb
[04:33] <histo> mildfate: replace the ...'s with the actual name of the deb
[04:33] <bobenhaus> hi
[04:36] <djono> hello im having troubles boot a live iso from usb. ive never had this problem
[04:36] <mildfate> histo: dpkg: error: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[04:38] <histo> mildfate: dpkg -r teamviewer
[04:38] <histo> mildfate: with sudo ofcourse
[04:38] <mildfate> histo: the .deb file or leave it at "teamviewer"
[04:38] <histo> mildfate: or sudo apt-get purge teamviewer && sudo gdebi teamvier...deb
[04:39] <histo> mildfate: leave it as teamviewer for dpkg or apt-get
[04:39] <mujahadean> folks
[04:39] <mujahadean> how can I check for package from apt-cache
[04:39] <histo> !usb | djono
[04:39] <mujahadean> do u guys know the command?
[04:39] <histo> mujahadean: apt-cache search packagename
[04:39] <mujahadean> ok
[04:40] <djono> the distro is fedora 18
[04:40] <histo> djono: then /join #fedora
[04:40] <bazhang> djono, #fedora for support
[04:40] <mildfate> histo: http://pastebin.com/SC7Bzbub
[04:40] <djono> its the only support channel that requires nick regis.
[04:41] <histo> !register | djono
[04:41] <SuperLag> So... register? :)
[04:41] <histo> mildfate: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[04:41] <bazhang> djono, not our issue, join #freenode for help with that
[04:42] <mildfate> histo: E: Unable to locate package ia32
[04:42] <djono> i just its stupid. well. no fedora for me
[04:42] <histo> mildfate: ia32-libs
[04:42] <histo> mildfate: not ia32
[04:42] <poisioned> um ecuse me?
[04:42] <mildfate> histo: sorry
[04:43] <mildfate> histo: http://pastebin.com/is5pmiYF
[04:45] <histo> mildfate: cat /etc/issue
[04:45] <poisioned> aaa!!! forget it im out of here!!
[04:46] <mildfate> histo: $ cat /etc/issue
[04:46] <mildfate> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[04:46] <histo> mildfate: uname -a
[04:47] <mildfate> histo: $ uname -a
[04:47] <mildfate> Linux ip-10-3-98-10 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:47] <cmanns> Howdy what's suggested for a Netbook? I see the website say my Acer Aspire One D255e Wifi may not work, but may due to newer stuff ofc. However I have wifi adapter I can put in, shall I just run ubuntu installer from windows 7 and see how it goes or? I has no cdrom.
[04:47] <antuirno> mildfate: try it ~> sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[04:47] <histo> mildfate: sudo aptitude why ia32-libs-multiarch
[04:48] <mildfate> histo: $ sudo aptitude why ia32-libs-multiarch
[04:48] <mildfate> Unable to find a reason to install ia32-libs-multiarch.
[04:48] <histo> mildfate: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[04:48] <histo> wth is going on with your system.
[04:49] <histo> going through dependency hell right now.
[04:50] <mildfate> histo: Yea, I have no idea.  At one point I did an install of "ubuntu-desktop" thinking I'd need it in order to view the desktop (seemed obvious).  At some point a long way along the dl and install, it said unable to reach some site, 403 error and quit
[04:50] <caborca> Hi, i'm new on IRC and new on Linux
[04:51] <histo> mildfate: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:51] <histo> caborca: hello
[04:51] <wheatthin> if that doesn't work, you can try to do the full-upgrade
[04:51] <antuirno> mildfate: check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/300139/ia32-libs-broken-package-ubuntu-12-04-x64
[04:51] <caborca> Hi histo, i really don't understan how does work that chat
[04:52] <histo> mildfate: don't install that ppa just apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[04:53] <histo> caborca: You can ask questions here about ubuntu. There are other rooms on this server for various topics. You can /join #someroom
[04:53] <mildfate> histo: the update and upgrade finished
[04:53] <histo> mildfate: now try and install
[04:53] <caborca> ok. thanks histo,
[04:53] <mildfate> histo: with gdebi?
[04:54] <histo> mildfate: yes
[04:54] <mildfate> histo: same error, "dependency problems"
[04:54] <wheatthin> !alis | caborca
[04:55] <wheatthin> !alis | caborca
[04:56] <madnoob> does anyone here preseed from the local LAN and when I mean preseed from the local LAN i mean not going online to install Ubuntu at all instead from a local apt repo on the same subnet??
[04:56] <caborca> ok, i'll try
[04:57] <DarkAceLaptop> how/where do I set the maximum allowed RAM of a program?
[04:57] <mildfate> histo: any other ideas?
[04:57] <histo> mildfate: alright I give lets just use xrdp  sudo apt-get install xrdp   then use an rdp client to connect
[04:58] <DarkAceLaptop> if it goes beyond said amount Ubuntu kills the program for me
[04:58] <DarkAceLaptop> (which is very handy)
[04:58] <mildfate> histo: should I remove anything?  or is there nothing to remove?
[04:58] <JoaquinMurieta> wc
[04:58] <histo> DarkAceLaptop: ulimit
[04:58] <histo> mildfate: remove teamviewer
[04:58] <histo> mildfate: sudo apt-get purge teamviewer
[04:59] <mildfate> histo: Looks like xrdp successfully installed
[05:00] <rosario1> buongiorno...
[05:00] <tobii> Can I set the swap partition and boot partition to be different location after I installed Ubuntu?
[05:00] <histo> DarkAceLaptop: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32368/how-to-limit-application-memory-usage
[05:00] <histo> tobii: you can make them whatever you want.
[05:00] <histo> tobii: as long as the files are present in /boot and swap is formatted for swap
[05:01] <tobii> histo, but I used LVM when I installed
[05:02] <histo> !details | tobii
[05:04] <Guest86810> ello?
[05:04] <Guest86810> i have a small problem
[05:05] <ethan_> could anyone help me?
[05:05] <Noskcaj> !ask | ethan_
[05:05] <mildfate> histo: Is there a rdc app I need to dl for os x 10.8.4
[05:05] <cmanns5> Sorry guys
[05:05] <dtreacy> i'm running headless 13.04 and trying to remap keys with xmodmap but t doesnt seem to be installed?
[05:06] <ethan_> I'm having trouble with an app that requires flash.  On both Firefox and Chromium browsers, this website will not let me click on the Abobe Flash Player Settings options
[05:06] <tobii> I'm using 12.04. Let's say I'd like more continuous space in /home, can I set /boot and /swap which are on different partitions to a new HD before I repartition the HD?
[05:06] <histo> mildfate: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/remote-desktop-client
[05:07] <mildfate> histo: looks like I have to buy it, eh?
[05:08] <histo> mildfate: no download is free for the client
[05:14] <ethan_> that's it i'm going back to mint
[05:14] <ethan_> haha...SUCK it !:D
[05:16] <trainerdad> hello
[05:17] <trainerdad> anybody there?
[05:18] <TheJackDev> hi
[05:20] <trainerdad> oh sorry. Hi
[05:21] <tobii> Can I set the swap partition and boot partition to be different location after I installed Ubuntu?
[05:22] <trainerdad> I have an ubuntuone question but cant seem to join the right channel for the topic.
[05:22] <caborca> Hi. Somebody can tell me how to installa a desktop theme on ubuntu?
[05:22] <trainerdad> any help would be greatly appreciated
[05:22] <macwolf74> caborca, create a folder in your home folder called .themes, and unzip the theme into that .themes
[05:23] <macwolf74> then get unity tweak tool, go under appearance or themes and change it from there
[05:23] <caborca> ok, i'll try it
[05:24] <varunendra> tobii, swap yes, easily. Boot - too many changes and manual work will be required. But yes, both are possible.
[05:24] <caborca> but, which is my home foler?
[05:24] <macwolf74> it should be the folder that starts up when you open files
[05:24] <tobii> varunendra, i see, thank you
[05:24] <iceroot> caborca: /home/username or just ~
[05:24] <macwolf74> if it isn't you can make sure by clicking "Home" in the sidebar
[05:30] <vlad_starkov> Emergency Question: just changed disk in RAID1 in Ubuntu 12.04 Server. After that mdadm recovered new disk. After reboot the system does not load. Only blinking cursor appears. Is it possible that it needs to reconfigure GRUB?
[05:30] <aarcane> I'm creating new users on the command line.  How do I make each of these new users home dirs encrypted?
[05:35] <yva> anybody who managed to connect his google apps account to empathy?
[05:37] <caborca> No. I couldn't. I created a folder at home named .themes, i pasted there the theme, but then the folder dissapear
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> caborca, Hit ctrl-h in home to see that fle
[05:39] <yva> I tried adding it as a jabber account but it always shows up saying that the account requires authentification
[05:40] <caborca> ok, i found it thanks... then i opened unity tweak tool, but it doesn't show me the new themes
[05:40] <macwolf74> caborca, the (.) at the beginning of folders makes them hidden
[05:40] <macwolf74> sorry I didn't mention that
[05:41] <macwolf74> caborca, Is it unzipped and the folder is in .themes?
[05:42] <caborca> i made a folder called .themes at home, then i unzipped the themes and pasted them
[05:44] <yva> maybe something I need  t authorize on google side?  I don't see empathy in the authorized applications
[05:45] <macwolf74> caboose885, what is the name of the theme if you don't mind me asking
[05:45] <macwolf74> caborca*
[05:45] <macwolf74> sorry caboose
[05:46] <caborca> Hardy-Mariux 2.0
[05:51] <macwolf74> sorry caborca but it looks like that theme is too old for modern ubuntu
[05:51] <yva> nobody for an empathy + gapps issue? I tried adding it as a normal google account but no conacts show up
[05:51] <caborca> ok. thanks, i'll try with another
[05:51] <macwolf74> to get a theme that should work make sure it says it's a GTK+ 3 theme or Ubuntu 11.10+ supported
[05:52] <caborca> Ok. I'm looking it
[05:55] <orangerobot> can anyone who's sucessfully managed to play counter strike source on ubunt via steam using an AMD video card tell me what driver they're using? (ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 preferably)
[05:55] <vlad_starkov> Emergency question: Could anyone look at this `boot-repair` output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5791662/ and point me why the system does not boot? (I changed failed HDD in RAID1 and after that the system does not boot)
[06:01] <wheatthin> vlad_starkov, have you tried looking to see if the boot flags are set?
[06:01] <vlad_starkov> wheatthin: yes they are set for both disks
[06:01] <vlad_starkov> wheatthin: look at the end of http://paste.ubuntu.com/5791662/
[06:02] <vlad_starkov> probably the problem is because of raid1 is encrypted
[06:02] <vlad_starkov> md0: ext4
[06:02] <vlad_starkov> md1: encrypted -> lvm
[06:02] <vlad_starkov> md0: ext4 (/boot)
[06:04] <Thete> Is it possible to do a do-release-upgrade type upgrade to Saucy?
[06:05] <caborca> thanks, i think understood
[06:05] <wheatthin> Thete, I'm sure it is, when it's available
[06:06] <Thete> nightly builds are available
[06:06] <wheatthin> may I ask why a nightly build?
[06:06] <Thete> Cause I'm on haswell and I'm already running 3.10-rc7 linux kernel
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> Thete, THe 13.10 channel is #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <Thete> And 13.04 is buggy as F with it
[06:07] <wheatthin> lol nightly builds will be even buggier :)
[06:07] <Thete> I know
[06:07] <tsimpson> Thete: check if "do-release-upgrade -cd" says it's available or not, note the -d option checks for a development release
[06:07] <Thete> tsimpson, Thank you
[06:07] <macwolf74> Thete, if you really want to do it, have all updates installed, alt+f2 and type update-manager -d
[06:07] <macwolf74> or do that
[06:07] <macwolf74> lol
[06:08] <Thete> Thanks :)
[06:08] <wheatthin> as long as you know what you want and aren't expecting any support lol
[06:08] <asdfasdf> Can someone help me with installing ubunty?
[06:08] <Thete> Yeah, I don't expect that
[06:08] <Thete> It's gonna be a mess I'm sure
[06:08] <wheatthin> asdfasdf, it's pretty self explanitory
[06:08] <asdfasdf> It is
[06:08] <asdfasdf> but I've searched for about 6 hours and haven't found a solution
[06:08] <asdfasdf> So here I am :P
[06:09] <wheatthin> yup, download iso, burn iso, boot iso, install
[06:09] <asdfasdf> When it reboots in the middle of the process, instead of booting to ubuntu it boots to windows
[06:10] <asdfasdf> This is for when you want to dual-boot it
[06:10] <wheatthin> why would it reboot in the middle of the process?
[06:10] <asdfasdf> because I chose the dual-boot option
[06:10] <wheatthin> you mean after installing?
[06:10] <wheatthin> you might want to change which drive boots first in bios
[06:10] <wheatthin> then install
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> asdfasdf, What is the other OS?
[06:11] <wheatthin> windows
[06:11] <asdfasdf> It's like the 4th slide in the installer, I haven't even gotten to the part where it asks for the time zone
[06:11] <asdfasdf> Windows
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> asdfasdf, Which release?
[06:11] <vlad_starkov> wheatthin: how to install grub on the /boot partition from the Live-USB?
[06:11] <aarcane> What's the package that tells me what package to install if a command is missing?
[06:12] <wheatthin> vlad_starkov, you have to chroot and then install grub
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> aarcane, There is none, can you follow help?
[06:12] <vlad_starkov> wheatthin: what is chroot?
[06:12] <vlad_starkov> wheatthin: sudo ... or something elese?
[06:12] <asdfasdf> 13.04
[06:13] <wheatthin> it's changing operating environments from live to installation
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> aarcane, What is the windows release XP, W7 or W8?
[06:14] <wheatthin> vlad_starkov, unless what you mean is you installed it to a usb drive.. then it's not live
[06:14] <ajmartin> Where can I find the linux kernel (deb) packages for 3.8.0-25.37. Looked here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but can't find the matching subversion
[06:14] <ObrienDave> aarcane*** you can use synaptic to fix broken packages. that might find the missing dependency
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> ObrienDave, On a live cd?
[06:15] <wheatthin> asdfasdf, I found out that in order to complete the install process, you have to uncheck download updates while installing
[06:15] <asdfasdf> OOOOOOH
[06:15] <asdfasdf> didn't try that
[06:15] <asdfasdf> thank you so much
[06:16] <anonnumberanon> really?
[06:16] <anonnumberanon> on what machine?
[06:16] <asdfasdf> I'll check back in a few
[06:16] <asdfasdf> I can't thank you enough
[06:16] <wheatthin> yup
[06:16] <asdfasdf> I've been at it for almost 7 hours now
[06:16] <ObrienDave> hmm, didn't see where aarcane mentioned a LiveCD
[06:16] <asdfasdf> <3
[06:16] <asdfasdf> MUAH
[06:16] <FloodBot1> asdfasdf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> lol, self absorbed morons gotta love them
[06:17] <aarcane> ObrienDave, ubuntu desktop installs have a command that just lists a couple of packages you can install to provide a missing command.  It's not included by default when you install a superminimal system from debootstrap.
[06:18] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, be nice :)
[06:18] <ObrienDave> okay, learn something new EVERY day :)
[06:20] <ajmartin> Where can I find the linux kernel (deb) packages for 3.8.0-25.37. Looked here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but can't find the matching subversion
[06:20] <wheatthin> ajmartin, what's the purpose of getting that exact kernel version?
[06:21] <ajmartin> wheatthin: I have to use it with debug kernel & systemtap. For that it is required
[06:22] <wheatthin> ajmartin, is it because you used a ppa to install those?
[06:23] <vlad_starkov> Emergency question: Could anyone look at this `boot-repair` output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5791662/ and point me why the system does not boot? (I changed failed HDD in RAID1 and after that the system does not boot)
[06:24] <wheatthin> vlad_starkov, try to install grub?
[06:24] <ajmartin> wheatthin: No. It is a requirement. See here http://sourceware.org/systemtap/SystemTap_Beginners_Guide/using-systemtap.html (look at `Important` box)
[06:24] <ajmartin> wheatthin: second one
[06:24] <vlad_starkov> wheatthin: I never did manually it before. could you point me for the further steps?
[06:25] <anonnumberanon> vlad_starkov, get the grub install dvd and use that, it might be called grub fixer or somehting like that
[06:25] <wheatthin> ajmartin, did you use the files in that guide? or from repo?
[06:25] <ajmartin> wheatthin: from repo
[06:26] <ajmartin> wheatthin: here http://sourceware.org/systemtap/SystemTap_Beginners_Guide/using-systemtap.html
[06:26] <vlad_starkov> anonnumberanon: I have RAID1+LUKS+LVM
[06:26] <ajmartin> wheatthin: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/?C=M;O=D (omit the last one)
[06:26] <anonnumberanon> vlad_starkov, get windows
[06:26] <vlad_starkov> anonnumberanon: not sure that GRUB autorepair will know that I have encrypted disk
[06:27] <ajmartin> wheatthin: here is more info about http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/SystemtapOnUbuntu
[06:28] <Motz> Hi, I can't install ubuntu on a laptop having windows 8. I guess there are problems with uefi. any hint?
[06:29] <wheatthin> Motz, you have to explain what kind of problems, we aren't mind readers :)
[06:29] <ajmartin> wheatthin: do you know where I could find the specific version?
[06:29] <anonnumberanon> vlad_starkov, step number 1, do you have backups?
[06:30] <anonnumberanon> Motz have you tried disabling secureboot in the bIOS?
[06:31] <wheatthin> ajmartin, no, actually I don't
[06:31] <ajmartin> wheatthin: ok. Thanks!
[06:31] <vlad_starkov> anonnumberanon: yes
[06:32] <ObrienDave> Motz*** https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:35] <anonnumberanon> vlad_starkov,  then you should be able to try stuff right?
[06:35] <anonnumberanon> you don't have grub in the first place right? because if you do there is this : https://pzolee.blogs.balabit.com/2010/07/grub-helyreallitas-titkositott-es-lvm-particiok-eseten/
[06:38] <asdf__> I'm back
[06:38] <asdf__> It didn't work :(
[06:39] <aarcane> I have apt configured to not install recommends and suggests by default.  Sometimes I want one or two of thsoe packages though.  is it possible to get a list of all packages that are "Suggested" or "recommended" by currently installed software?
[06:39] <asdf__> It still asked me to eject, and after I did, it started to windows
[06:39] <wheatthin> asdf__, did you switch your first booting disk in bios?
[06:40] <asdf__> I changed it from hard drive to CD, but that was when I selected the "download updates" oatpion
[06:40] <wheatthin> asdf__, ubuntu /boot disk should be the first one to load
[06:40] <asdf__> ?
[06:40] <asdf__> How do you do that?
[06:40] <wheatthin> asdf__, I assume you have two hard disks?
[06:40] <asdf__> I did the automatic partitioning
[06:41] <asdf__> so I don't know
[06:41] <wheatthin> asdf__, what does sudo fdisk -l  show?
[06:42] <asdf__> where do I enter the sudo code?
[06:42] <wheatthin> in terminal
[06:43] <wheatthin> asdf__, you'll have to use pastebin to post the results
[06:44] <asdf__> How do I get to terminal on ubuntu?
[06:44] <asdf__> I'm completely new, hehe
[06:44] <wheatthin> click on the 'super' button and in the search field type terminal
[06:45] <wheatthin> super aka window button
[06:45] <Nicekiwi> how does Ubuntu 12.04 run on a MacBook Air?
[06:45] <SwedeMike> Nicekiwi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir
[06:46] <wheatthin> Nicekiwi, it should run good as long as the macbook doesn't have displaylink
[06:46] <wheatthin> Nicekiwi, I find people having issues with the new dual head video cards that automatically change from intel to nvidia or whatever depending on power scaling
[06:47] <asdf__> http://pastebin.com/9mQ7m2Ud
[06:47] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:47] <Nicekiwi> wheatthin, hmm.. the Air dosnt have dedicated GFX, so should be fine..
[06:47] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> asdf__, This windows 8
[06:47] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[06:48] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[06:48] <wheatthin> asdf__, it looks like you need to change some partition system id's
[06:48] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[06:48] <wheatthin> before installing
[06:48] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:49] <asdf__> I have windows 7
[06:49] <asdf__> I also thought that, bu t I was selecting the automatic partioning
[06:50] <wheatthin> asdf__, well you can choose to use the free space, but you still need to change partition id's
[06:50] <asdf__> oh IDs?
[06:50] <asdf__> I've never read anything about changing IDs
[06:50] <wheatthin> asdf__, so the installer knows it's linux, and swap and whatever
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> asdf__, THe sfs in tha fdisk means that HD is dynamic, it probably wasn't and adding or trying to add a 5th parttion caused this, that is not good
[06:51] <asdf__> :/ how do I fix it?
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> asdf__, I would ask on the ##wndows channel there are tools.
[06:51] <wheatthin> asdf__, since the partitioning is done, I'd go back in with livedvd/usb and sudo fdisk then follow a guide to changing the id's to what you need it
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> ##windows you have to be registered is all with freenode
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, Dud that disc is dynamic
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> Dude*
[06:52] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, what do you mean by dynamic?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Holey Dynamic disks Batman!
[06:53] <wheatthin> hmm
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, It is a specialized partitioning that does not play with a dual boot of MS and linux and was caused probably by exceding the 4 primary partition limit or at least trying to.
[06:54] <asdf__> Well thank you for the help
[06:54] <asdf__> I appreciate it very much stranger
[06:54] <wheatthin> asdf__, I'd suggest reinstalling both windows and linux
[06:54] <anonnumberanon> asdf what is your problem right about now, and I assume you own a 2010 computer is that right? (300Gb drives + W7 is about 2008>2012)
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> lol Dr_willis
[06:54] <wheatthin> using none dynamic disk layout
[06:54] <asdf__> Yeah I'll probably do that
[06:55] <asdf__> Thank you again wheatthin
[06:55] <wheatthin> yup
[06:55] <asdf__> so I should factory restore right?
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> asdf__, It can be converted with the right tools back to what it was.
[06:55] <wheatthin> no.. if you have the windows installation disk, then I'd use linux to partition, then go install windows, and then ubuntu
[06:56] <asdf__> what do you mean by that
[06:56] <mdev> how do i let apache/php run as root wtih no pass
[06:56] <wheatthin> asdf__, well the restore disk might put the same layout
[06:57] <asdf__> And what do you mean byt using linux to partition, then windows, and then ubuntu
[06:57] <asdf__> Because I don't have any linux right now
[06:57] <asdf__> should I?
[06:58] <wheatthin> the livecd/dvd
[06:58] <wheatthin> using the terminal to partition with fdisk
[06:58] <wheatthin> set the size of ntfs partition you want
[06:58] <wheatthin> set the linux boot partition, swap, and root
[06:59] <wheatthin> then go install windows.. then boot the linux livecd/dvd and install ubuntu
[06:59] <asdf__> Isn't that Gpedit?
[06:59] <asdf__> or something like that?
[07:00] <wheatthin> gparted?
[07:00] <asdf__> gparted
[07:00] <asdf__> yeah
[07:00] <wheatthin> gedit is a text editor
[07:00] <mdev> how.do.I.run.php.as.root
[07:00] <mdev> under.ubuntu.
[07:01] <wheatthin> mdev, what do you mean run php as root?
[07:01] <orman> how can you bring a process to the foreground that root owns? for example jobs has no output, there is a process I want to bring back to the shell.
[07:03] <wheatthin> orman, have you tried looking for a log as a source of output?
[07:04] <orman> I've set it up that way, but for some reason the program does not work when scheduled
[07:04] <orman> vs being done in the shell
[07:04] <wheatthin> orman, did you set a cron job or something?
[07:04] <wheatthin> if so look in /var/log/syslog
[07:04] <orman> upstart .conf file
[07:05] <Guest14370> hey everyone! was hoping someone could help me, my files lens in 13.04 isn't finding my files! thx for any help, only been using linux for a month
[07:08] <wheatthin> Tapper, umm this might help you   http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/real-files-folders-search-unity-lens.html
[07:09] <anonnumberanon> Krom, so where are your files mang?
[07:09] <wheatthin> Tapper, I'm assuming this will be helpful
[07:10] <Tapper> anonnumberanon, they are in home>tapper>my stuff
[07:11] <Tapper> wheatthin, haha yes yes thxxxxx
[07:15] <Tapper> can i toggle join and quit msgs in here?
[07:16] <anonnumberanon> Tapper, do you think it is possible that that foplder isn't mounted, since you can't "see: it
[07:17] <Tapper> anonnumberanon, the folder is good to go but the site that wheatthin showed me said the default file lens doesnt include folders or files I havent accessed yet
[07:17] <anonnumberanon> well that sounds retarded it should index everything as soon as installed.
[07:18] <Tapper> anonnumberanon, i completely agree ugh
[07:18] <anonnumberanon> just get another, that one seems like it's been half-assed
[07:19] <Tapper> anonnumberanon, doing that now yea its the default lens form cononical
[07:19] <Tapper> wheatthin, anonnumberanon hey guys is there a way to re-order the icons on the Panel?
[07:20] <wheatthin> Tapper, in unity?  super+alt
[07:20] <anonnumberanon> You can make them smaller, which is nice, or put one icon on top of another. I don't think you can set the bar to be horizontal though, but it's good because most screens nowadays are too wide.
[07:21] <Tapper> wheatthin, not the Launcher but on the Panel, the grey smaller one with like sound icon, cloud icon, time and date etc
[07:21] <wheatthin> Tapper, right
[07:22] <mdev> www-data       LOCAL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/service
[07:22] <mdev> there we go
[07:22] <Tapper> wheatthin, im holding super+alt then what
[07:22] <wheatthin> super+alt while dragging
[07:22] <wheatthin> or click
[07:22] <wheatthin> I forget now
[07:23] <Tapper> wheatthin, i hold super and alt and try to click the icons to move them but they stay locked
[07:23] <max64>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[07:23] <wheatthin> Tapper, hold on
[07:23] <Tapper> wheatthin, thx I appreciate the help i tried to google but couldnt find it
[07:27] <wheatthin> Tapper, I have no clue, I guess that was in gnome classic only
[07:27] <Tapper> wheatthin, oh well fudge it I guess
[07:28] <Motz> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu via wubi. On my laptop there is windows 8 installed. On the reboot I get an error: wubildr.mbr not found. Any hint?
[07:29] <wheatthin> Motz, did you try to paste that error into google?
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> Motz, Wubi will not run in a W8 setup.
[07:29] <ubuntu> rk
[07:29] <Motz> wilee-nilee, so what is the solution?
[07:30] <Guest8124> yes
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Motz
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> Motz, If this is a factery W8 not your install it is a uefi setup.
[07:30] <Motz> wilee-nilee, do I need to install it from cd?
[07:31] <wheatthin> Motz, that would be my suggestion
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> Motz, Take a look at the link, thnkgs are a bit different with this setup.
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntu wont fit in a cd, but a dvd or usb works
[07:32] <Motz> wilee-nilee, the installation file for 12.10 is 695 MB. It will fit in a cd, won't it?
[07:32] <anonnumberanon> usb prolly won't work (*0% failure rate) make a DVD Motz.
[07:33] <anonnumberanon> (80% failure)
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> Motz, If that size yeah.
[07:33] <Motz> ok
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> sounds like lubuntu that size, I thought ubuntu exceeded cd use
[07:35] <Tapper> wheatthin, hey how do I display all the files in a specific repository I guess? that link u sent me with the file lense alternative, when I go to download the file it says unable to locate package
[07:35] <wheatthin> Tapper, to find a specific package apt-cache search <packagename>
[07:37] <orman> what commands can give me usb device UUID?
[07:38] <anonnumberanon> Tapper get Synaptic Package Manager for Un=buntu Software Center, that will give you access to most of the thinbgs.
[07:38] <wheatthin> orman, is it already mounted?
[07:38] <orman> yes
[07:38] <wheatthin> orman, you can use mount to see the uuid of already mounted devices
[07:38] <gordonjcp> synaptic is obsolete, isn't it?
[07:38] <orman> thanks a lot
[07:38] <anonnumberanon> gordonjcp, compared to what ?
[07:38] <kxwabcirc> exit
[07:39] <kxwabcirc> quit
[07:39] <kxwabcirc> Quit
[07:39] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, compared to software-manager
[07:39] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: I thought it wasn't supported any more, which is why it's not installed by default
[07:39] <JaceP> hi guys. i disabled OpenGL through ccsm due to high cpu usage. my display is now pretty corrupt and i am unable to re-enable opengl to resolve the issue. suggestions?
[07:40] <JaceP> i can type through a terminal screen if i do it very carefully. the X desktop is overlaid and flashing over any terminal prompt.
[07:40] <wheatthin> JaceP, disable compiz
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> JaceP, What release?
[07:40] <JaceP> 12.10
[07:40] <anonnumberanon> wheaties, the software manager doesn't let you see the "ropes", also it doesn't work sometimes, when Synaptic does.
[07:40] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, then using apt-get is the suggested alternative
[07:41] <islandmonkey> Can anyone help me with compiling wineasio? Keep getting an error: http://pastebin.com/xkNEjsND
[07:41] <anonnumberanon> gordonjcp, it is one that a lot of people use
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> JaceP, You can reset compiz. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[07:41] <JaceP> wilee-nilee: thank you, i'll try this
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> cool
[07:42] <wheatthin> islandmonkey, why compiling wine from source?
[07:42] <anonnumberanon> wheaties, yes but apt-get install is not very user-friendly, it does not have a nice search feature like Synaptic, it is a command line interface bash command after all.
[07:42] <wheatthin> wheatthin*
[07:42] <anonnumberanon> wheatthin,
[07:42] <anonnumberanon> sorry
[07:42] <islandmonkey> wheatthin: I'm not compiling wine from source, I'm compiling wineasio
[07:42] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, it'll show him the ropes..
[07:43] <wheatthin> still not a supported package by ubuntu support
[07:43] <anonnumberanon> it might show him "some" of the ropes but it skips a few steps in understanding Linux and the packages, it skips the VISUAL step, which most people are, visual, if you can't see it, you can';t understand it.
[07:44] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, using the manpage explains it.
[07:45] <anonnumberanon> man is not featured as one of the first, main commands to use to learn Linux, it should be, but Ubuntu is not targeted at people who want to learn computer science and thus use man
[07:46] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, actually, it is.
[07:46] <anonnumberanon> I have never had a Ubuntu install tell me to start using man in orddcer to understand things, that's what I mean.
[07:47] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, what are man pages for then?
[07:47] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: that makes no sense
[07:47] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: anyone using Ubuntu either already knows about man pages, or doesn't care about man pages
[07:49] <JaceP> wilee-nilee: thank you that solved most of the issue.
[07:49] <anonnumberanon> when you install Ubuntu everything you do is made to be GUI-easy and you don't have to get into the workings of the packages to make them work. Having to read man pages is against that "new user" philosophy. If the marketing goal is to teach the user something, then more options for learning should be offered right off the bat.
[07:50] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, if you aren't willing to read, then you aren't willing to learn about ubuntu/linux in general
[07:50] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: it's against the "experienced user" philosophy, too
[07:50] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: this is why Ubuntu is the distro of choice for very experienced Linux users
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> JaceP, Cool, no problem.
[07:51] <JaceP> wilee-nilee: so if i wanted to remove compiz completely due to it crashing nonstop, would i want to first install metacity?
[07:51] <gordonjcp> JaceP: if your hardware struggles with Compiz it will probably struggle with Unity-2D
[07:51] <gordonjcp> JaceP: consider using XFCE instead
[07:51] <handuel> anonnumberanon: but there is always need for manuals, unless everything was exactly the same as windows, a "new user" would always need to read a manual
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> JaceP, unity is a plugin in compiz, it is that desktop, you would be better exploring other desktops.
[07:52] <curatrix> xfce is my personal choice (been doing this since the mid 90s
[07:52] <anonnumberanon> but there is a problem though, Ubuntu makes the choice of being the introductory distro. It sure was untill 13.04, but then it broke, and 13.04 is an anti-noob at best.
[07:52] <nobuhdy> I tend to agree with anonnumberanon actually (sorry to butt in), man pages tend to be somewhat less "communicative", whenever possible I prefer info than man
[07:52] <anonnumberanon> By that I am talking about the updating problems
[07:52] <gordonjcp> frankly this discussion is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:52] <wheatthin> ^
[07:53] <wheatthin> :)
[07:53] <Infix> +1
[07:53] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: do you have an actual Ubuntu support question, possibly about upgrading?
[07:53] <curatrix> anonnumberanon: I wouldn't go past LTS ..........Linux + The bleeding edge of tech = Heartbreak
[07:54] <curatrix> linux(like a fine wine) has always been better when it has aged a little
[07:54] <gordonjcp> curatrix: that's true of any OS
[07:54] <JaceP> i'll try switching to xfce. this is a headless node anyway that i might hook a display to once in a great while. don't care what the gui looks like.
[07:54] <gordonjcp> JaceP: what are you using it for?
[07:54] <gordonjcp> JaceP: if it's headless, just install Ubuntu Server and leave all that GUI stuff off
[07:55] <curatrix> gordonjcp: Yes and no .......Windows 8.1 is a good example
[07:55] <gordonjcp> JaceP: that way there's less to go wrong
[07:55] <gordonjcp> curatrix: I've never used Windows
[07:55] <curatrix> gordonjcp: Then why claim that it is true of any OS?
[07:55] <anonnumberanon> curatrix, right , 13.04 is surely not for beginners, even if it is pushed onto the user from 12.04.
[07:55] <gordonjcp> curatrix: well, I've played with XP a bit, but never really gone into it beyond "click icon, run program"
[07:55] <gordonjcp> curatrix: because it is true of any OS
[07:56] <gordonjcp> there are more OSes out there than just Windows, you know
[07:56] <JaceP> i'm receiving spam from a user in this channel: noooooooo
[07:57] <anonnumberanon> gordon, no I don't have any questions about it right now, I am just here to compare the issues people are having with it to the issues I sometimes have/had with Debian.
[07:57]  * curatrix knows not to argue with a fool as they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience
[07:57] <gordonjcp> JaceP: yeah, I got that too, just close the window and ignore it
[07:57] <handuel> The issue with unity is that there are loads of powerfull features like previews and the HUD, but nothing explaining that they exist
[07:57] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: in which case, you want to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic since it's not a support question
[07:58] <anonnumberanon> Well I'm not the one who brought it up.
[08:00] <gordonjcp> anonnumberanon: in which case, in the future you can help out by diverting future discussions of this nature to #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[08:04] <JaceP> i installed xfce4 and seem to be unable to switch the default session over to using it
[08:05] <handuel> JaceP does it show in the cog menu at the login screen?
[08:05] <JaceP> it auto logs in so i have no prompt at all
[08:06] <JaceP> i'm attempting to install xubuntu-desktop and see if that solves it
[08:06] <wheatthin> JaceP, it won't
[08:08] <anonnumberanon> gordonjcp, OK.
[08:08] <wheatthin> JaceP, you must go into system settings and user accounts
[08:08] <wheatthin> to disable autologin graphically
[08:11] <JaceP> don't want to disable autologin, just want to set xfce to be the default
[08:13] <wheatthin> JaceP, can re-enable it after you select the main one you want
[08:13] <JaceP> gotcha
[08:21] <JaceP> wheatthin: good deal, thanks. i've got it booting into xubuntu. provided it stops crashing i'll be very happy. thanks again :D
[08:21] <esivn> i just installed ubuntu and then linux server. i'm trying to set up a home network with a couple of other computers.  where do i start?
[08:21] <bekks> esivn: Whats "linux server"?
[08:22] <nobuhdy> esivn: so you've installed ubuntu server?
[08:22] <gordonjcp> bekks: tasksel has an option for something like "common linux server"
[08:22] <esivn> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[08:22] <bekks> gordonjcp: Ah, never used tasksel. Thanks. :)
[08:22] <bekks> esivn: Thats a server kernel only.
[08:22] <esivn> ok, what should i do now
[08:23] <bekks> esivn: Just set up an IP address from your local network and you're done.
[08:23] <gordonjcp> bekks: it pops up when you do a server install
[08:24] <nobuhdy> esivn: you want it as a file+print server, proxy server, web server? or just a simple file+print server?
[08:24] <esivn> My cable modem is handling dhcp right now.  I want to setup a secure home network that I can access remotely via vpn.   I just need a starting place.  You guys or a guide.
[08:24] <esivn> I want to do media streaming, file, print, web and email with it.
[08:25] <islandmonkey>  Can anyone help me with compiling wineasio? Keep getting an error: http://pastebin.com/xkNEjsND
[08:28] <evanvarvell> ..
[08:29] <esivn> ?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> !vpn
[08:33] <Dr_willis> should be some guides out on openvpn also
[08:33] <Dr_willis> You dont really have to use 'vpn' to access your server.
[08:33] <ss_haze> does buying left for dead 2 or portal on steam, when it hasn't got linux icon is safe?
[08:34] <Dr_willis> ss_haze,  I would think it would mean it dosent run on linux.. but buying it should be safe. ;)
[08:35] <ss_haze> it's kinda confusing when they don't write linux in description
[08:35] <Dr_willis> I thought every linux game had that linux Logo icon on the store page.
[08:36] <ss_haze> well, you can read that they released Portal, left for dead 2 etc, but in client, they are still windows or mac games only
[08:36] <Dr_willis> or does steam on linux showit as a native linux game? im on windows steam looking right now.
[08:37] <ss_haze> maybe if I buy them, I can download linux versions anyway
[08:37] <Dr_willis> could be they are still in testing.
[08:37] <kostkon> i think these two games are still in beta that's why
[08:37] <Dr_willis> makes sence to me.
[08:37] <Dr_willis> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Valve-Is-Telling-Linux-Steam-Users-to-Play-More-Left-4-Dead-2-353992.shtml
[08:38] <Dr_willis> “Right now the Beta is the only place you can play L4D2 on Linux natively. If you run Linux, load it up and give it a try,” reads the announcement from Valve.
[08:39] <ss_haze> I will be waiting for official release probably, but Valve really can't win the market with the games they have now on linux
[08:39] <ss_haze> atleast thats my thoughts
[08:43] <Dr_willis> there is no winning.. there is just more games.. that become old games.. then moar games...
[08:44] <Dr_willis> I got left4dead 2 here on steam (brother must have bought it) and never even played it. ;P
[08:44] <Dr_willis> really dont like those survival fps games.
[08:46] <ss_haze> winning or not, there is like a hundred type of games linux doesn't yet have
[08:46] <ss_haze> I don't think it's weakness, but could be great to see some racing etc games
[08:46] <Powermaniac> Hi
[08:47]  * Dr_willis would be hard pressed to name a list of '100 types' of games.. but then again if i only play like 4 types.. it dosent matter.
[08:47] <Dr_willis> Hello Powermaniac
[08:48] <Powermaniac> Okay well I have a problem, that is I installed Xubuntu, it seemed to work, I discovered I overwrote a heap of files but I think I saved them with photorec, but now it won't let me get into xubuntu I just get a black screen after the xubuntu splash screen and a prompt
[08:48] <Powermaniac> Anyway to get into Xubuntu from the prompt screen?
[08:48] <Dr_willis> You overwrote them how exactly?
[08:49] <Dr_willis> what prompt do you mean? grub:  or LOGIN: ?
[08:49] <Powermaniac> There was a freespace partition that was actually the Windows 7 Starter partition with a whole bunch of files on it...
[08:49] <Powermaniac> And I put Ubuntu on it first then Xubuntu as Ubuntu was too slow on this netbook
[08:50] <Powermaniac> That isn't very powerful
[08:50] <Powermaniac> The prompt is just a black screen where the login screen would normally appear
[08:50] <Dr_willis> so your xubuntu install overwrote the windows 'boot/recovery' partition?
[08:50] <Dr_willis> or the actual windows 7 partition?
[08:50] <Powermaniac> The actual Windows 7 partition
[08:50] <Powermaniac> The boot/recovery partition is still there
[08:50] <Powermaniac> LAst I checked
[08:51] <ss_haze> promt is like command line
[08:51] <ss_haze> ?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> !shell
[08:51] <Powermaniac> Well it is just a black screen with a flashing underscore
[08:52] <ss_haze> startxfce4 would start desktop environment
[08:52] <Dr_willis> Powermaniac,  what did you use photorec to recover? it shouldent have affected your linux system
[08:52] <Powermaniac> It was meant to just recover family photos
[08:52] <Powermaniac> But instead it recovered the entire partition
[08:52] <Dr_willis> im suprised it was able to recover anything.
[08:53] <Powermaniac> And now I also have this weird error in the Xubuntu recovery mode that says the 281GB partition is completely full
[08:53] <Dr_willis> Use a live cd, to see whats left on the system. and you might need to reinstall.   it could be photorec recoverd the windows files onto the linux partition. (not sure how it would do that)
[08:53] <Powermaniac> Not sure how that is possible as there wasn't 281GB worth of files on there
[08:53] <Dr_willis> but a live cd would be the best route. to let you see exactly whats going on - on the HD.
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  I had that too, in a terminal, type     df -h       does it say "100%" ?       if yes, emtyp Trash
[08:54] <Powermaniac> I will have to use a live usb no cd drive
[08:54] <Dr_willis> cd/dvd osent matter.
[08:54] <Powermaniac> New problem
[08:55] <Powermaniac> After testing the windows recovery mode to see what happens just opened it and left it didn't start anything
[08:55] <Powermaniac> Now I rebooted
[08:55] <Powermaniac> All I get now is a black screen after the bios splash and this text "error: unknown filesystem." "grub rescur> _"
[08:55] <Powermaniac> grub rescue*
[08:56] <Powermaniac> Oh and thanks for the help guys
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  I wonder what you actually *do* with your machine to make it so troublesome
[08:56] <Dr_willis> use a live usb, check the system. sounds like the sysetm is totally goofed up.
[08:57] <Powermaniac> Dr_willis will do
[08:57] <nobuhdy> MonkeyDust: if his nickname can give a hint :)
[08:57] <Powermaniac> MonkeyDust, It's a long story as to what happen, it's my parents laptop and they were whining about it being slow
[08:58] <Dr_willis> hmm.. someone want to check   http://www.hulu.com/watch/502318  for me to see if the actual video works?    the comercials seem to work. but the video seems garbled.. (trying  a differnt browser now)
[08:58] <Dr_willis> weird.. Chrome Worked.. FF dident..
[08:58] <MonkeyDust> Dr_willis  "Sorry, currently our video library can only be watched from within the United States"
[08:58] <MonkeyDust> patriot!
[08:59] <Dr_willis> funny since its a JapAnime show. ;P
[09:00] <Dr_willis> now its working in FF also..   must been a server issue or somthing odd.
[09:03] <Powermaniac> Okay new question
[09:03] <Powermaniac> I have managed to get in with a liveUSB
[09:04] <Powermaniac> Now it says the HDD is completely full
[09:04] <Powermaniac> Could that be causing the problem?
[09:04] <Dr_willis> possible.. 100% full - would be.. weird
[09:04] <nobuhdy> unless there are bad sectors
[09:04] <Dr_willis> but i bet its just one sign  of deeper issues
[09:05] <nobuhdy> check your hard drive condition
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  that's what I just said
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  it's most probably your Trash
[09:05] <Powermaniac> Okay, so on that note, do you know of a way to grab all image type files off the HDD that I've recovered and stick them onto a usb?
[09:05] <Dr_willis> the 'find' command can scan and do stuff to all files of a speccif type/pattern
[09:06] <nobuhdy> Powermaniac is your usb live persistent?
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  type rm -r [drive]home/user/.local/share/Trash
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  type rm -r [drive]/home/user/.local/share/Trash
[09:06] <Powermaniac> nobuhdy, persistent?
[09:06] <Powermaniac> MonkeyDust, thanks
[09:22] <Powermaniac> Okay
[09:22] <Powermaniac> So
[09:22] <Powermaniac> Now to find the files
[09:22] <Powermaniac> As I need to do this eventually anyway
[09:23] <Powermaniac> Now I think find /dev/sda3/. -name ".jpg" -o ".png" | xargs -0 mv ~/Desktop/USB might do it?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> you use find on the devices MOUNTPOINT  not the /dev/DEVICENAME
[09:24] <Powermaniac> So in this case
[09:24] <Dr_willis> also its a good idea to test find commands with 'echo' instead of actually doing the move/copy/deletion
[09:25] <Powermaniac> "/media/xubuntu/8b5ec757-0f45-42b0-bd0a-210feb766581"...
[09:26] <Dr_willis> if thats the MOUNTPOINT. yes.
[09:26] <Powermaniac> How do I check that, that is the Mountpoint?
[09:26] <Dr_willis> or cd into the mountpoint, then use a shorter command. since you an use relative paths
[09:26] <Powermaniac> And yes I'm new to linux in general
[09:26] <Dr_willis> cd to it and look?
[09:28] <Powermaniac> Okay so cd allowed me into it
[09:29] <Powermaniac> So now I can write find .-name ".jpg" -o ".png" | xargs -0 mv /media/xubuntu/USB
[09:29] <Powermaniac> Just making sure as I don't want to screw this up further
[09:29] <Dr_willis> somthing like that.. id test with echo first.
[09:29] <Powermaniac> Where do I add echo?
[09:29] <Powermaniac> just to the front?
[09:29] <Dr_willis> and i think find has a sysntax where it dosent need to get piped to xargs
[09:30] <Powermaniac> Oh okay
[09:30] <Dr_willis> http://javarevisited.blogspot.com/2011/03/10-find-command-in-unix-examples-basic.html
[09:31] <Powermaniac> Thanks will read over that
[09:31] <Dr_willis> find . -size +1000c -exec ls -l {} \;
[09:31] <Dr_willis>  
[09:31] <Dr_willis>  -exec runs the command for each found item
[09:31] <Dr_willis> in that example it just shows the file details
[09:32] <Dr_willis> filenames with SPACES in them can also be very problematic
[09:32] <Powermaniac> Hmm
[09:32] <Powermaniac> I thought if you search for the extension it would ignore the names?
[09:32] <Dr_willis> id just find the files by hand and use a file manager.. assuming you got them all in some common directory
[09:32] <Dr_willis> extensions dont really mean anything in linux
[09:32] <Powermaniac> No that's the problem
[09:32] <Dr_willis> they are part of the name
[09:33] <loganlee> hi
[09:33] <Powermaniac> Photorec restored them in over 1000 folders mixed in with 100,000s of random files
[09:33] <loganlee> !ubuntu
[09:33] <Powermaniac> That I don't even know the netbook had on it, well it didn't
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  and did you store them on your HDD ?
[09:33] <Powermaniac> We have a feeling it duplicated files over and over
[09:34] <Dr_willis> cant say ive ever used photorec to recover stuff so no idea..
[09:34] <Dr_willis> I always backup imporntant stuff :)
[09:34] <Powermaniac> MonkeyDust, did I store the photos on it, well myself no not personally, but my parents yes (been telling them to back everything up for ages)
[09:35] <Dr_willis> i setup  my mom with a cloud  storage drive - told her to use that. ;)
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  i mean: the photorec recovered files
[09:36] <Powermaniac> MonkeyDust, they were all sent to the desktop
[09:36] <Powermaniac> MonkeyDust, When it got over 20 folders I started to get worried
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> Powermaniac  should have stored them on an external disk
[09:36] <Dr_willis> are you sure any of the files are good?
[09:37] <Powermaniac> Dr_willis, yeah tried to convince my parents of using the cloud but my step-dad doesn't like the idea of them being on the internet
[09:37] <Dr_willis> Powermaniac,  he dosent have to worry about anyone haveing them now,,
[09:37] <Powermaniac> Dr_willis, I was going through some of the folders as I discovered you could according to the site while the program was running and there were intact photos in there
[09:38] <Dr_willis> if theres 1000 copies of each file.. may be best to just start going though by hand and see what you got.
[09:38] <Dr_willis> start filtering out whats not worth keeping.
[09:39] <Powermaniac> Dr_willis, well he is of the opinion to just wipe them all as they do have the majority of them on another laptop
[09:39] <Powermaniac> Dr_willis, So yeah...I want to save them if I can though
[09:40] <Powermaniac> Dr_willis, just have this feeling something might get deleted that was of importance
[09:43] <Powermaniac> Discussed it further and the photos are getting wiped
[09:44] <Powermaniac> Anyway thanks guys
[09:45] <ziklon> hello everyone
[09:47] <Eagleman> This is a valid cronjob right?  00   3  1,23  *  *
[09:48] <islandmonkey> Can anyone help me with compiling wineasio? Keep getting an error: http://pastebin.com/xkNEjsND
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#Crontab_Sections
[09:50] <Eagleman> MonkeyDust, looks like it is valid
[09:59] <ryankask> hi. occasionally (for example, now) my screen goes blurry. it could be a driver issue but may have to do with hardware. it goes away if I suspend, logout and then login again, or change the screen resolution
[10:00] <ryankask> How cani I refresh the screen so I don't have to use any of those methods?
[10:00] <ryankask> from the command line
[10:01] <ryankask> some how simulate the sort of screen refresh that happens if you changed the screen resolution in the display settings and then clicked go back to the previous resolution
[10:02] <nugroho> Indonesian
[10:04] <islandmonkey> Can anyone help me with compiling wineasio? Keep getting an error: http://pastebin.com/xkNEjsND
[10:05] <bekks> islandmonkey: Whats so unclear at "no such file or directory"?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> !id | nugroho
[10:05] <islandmonkey> bekks: Well how can I fix that?
[10:06] <bekks> islandmonkey: By finding out wether thats a file shipped by your "wineasio" or by finding out which ubuntu package provides it - take a look at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  http://www.takethesecoins.it/blog/2011/05/install-wineasio-0-9-0-on-ubuntu-11-04-deb-file-included/
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  11.04 ^^^^^   maybe it works for 13.04
[10:09] <islandmonkey> MonkeyDust: I get a 404 error trying to download that
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> hmm
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  is this more useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/download-wineasio-deb-packages.html
[10:20] <foggy95> ^
[10:21] <tking> hello guys how do i make ubuntu boot to command line mode at startup so i can login and switch to GUI when i want
[10:21] <foggy95> 12.04 is a last good system,but ubuntu is dead like desktop
[10:22] <bazhang> !ot | foggy95
[10:22] <bazhang> !nox | tking
[10:22] <k1l_> foggy95: please keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support. this is not a channel for ranting
[10:22] <azar> How can I download the kernel source code of my ubuntu. As an example my ubuntu has the kernel version: 3.2.0-41-generic-pae. How can I download this version??
[10:23] <foggy95> dont like critics,ok)
[10:24] <EdePopede> hello, one quick question: does the actual (12.10/13.04) cd/dvd start menu look somehow like http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/ubuntu8-boot-menu.jpg ? i mean, 1) is run live system and 2) is quick install to disk?
[10:24] <EdePopede> !ops noooooooo is spamming links in query
[10:27] <Monkey> Por los clavos de cristo!
[10:27] <Monkey> Son demasiados!
[10:28] <Monkey> Ohayou gozaimazu
[10:29] <soham> hey
[10:29] <soham> need help
[10:29] <soham> anybody there?
[10:29] <islandmonkey> MonkeyDust: Lovely that installed
[10:29] <k1l_> !ask | soham
[10:29] <tking> bazhang instead of  switching in with 'startx' to graphic mode, can i change the 'startx' to something like 'welcome'
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  great!
[10:30] <azar> How can I download the kernel source code of my ubuntu. As an example my ubuntu has the kernel version: 3.2.0-41-generic-pae. How can I download this version??
[10:30] <k1l_> tking: dont use startx on ubuntu. start the lightdm instead to start the xserver
[10:31] <tking> k1l_, how do i do that?
[10:31] <tking> start lightdm
[10:31] <k1l_> sudo service start lightdm
[10:31] <soham> i am new in Linux!! I was studying the magazine named open source for you by EFYgroup . In case of Gnome shell extension,  i cannot find the local/share/gnome-shell/extension folders.
[10:33] <Znoosey> soham, try: whereis gnome-shell
[10:34] <soham> in terminal?
[10:34] <Znoosey> yes
[10:34] <djono> hello. is everone here able to rest ur thumb on ur clickpad while moving the pointer with another finger?
[10:34] <jonathank89_> .
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:35] <soham> found it!!! thanks...4 the help
[10:37] <soham> but extension is not there!!! i am adding a new folder named Extension!!!! will it work?
[10:39] <djono> hello. is everone here able to rest ur thumb on ur clickpad while moving the pointer with another finger?
[10:39] <nevyn> nope get a right click...
[10:42] <soham> znoosey:
[10:42] <soham> znoosey:help
[10:47] <le_tigra> why are my downloads (700MB or so) never complete???
[10:48] <X200> le_tigra, what are you downloading and from where?
[10:48] <le_tigra> ubuntu 13.04 iso image from the ubuntu site X200
[10:49] <Lorra> Hi everybody, I'm using the awk program and I have some trouble getting the OFS to be a horizontal tab, I'm doing awk 'BEGIN {OFS="\t"} {print}' (on a multi-line & multi-field output of another program), but I get simple blanks in place of tabs. Does anybody have a clue about that?
[10:49] <le_tigra> i spent TWO DAYS downloading the thing and all were incomplete! >:(
[10:49] <X200> le_tigra, I'll try to download now. You can try using bitorrent to download the ISO image.
[10:50] <jrib> le_tigra: what's your full command?
[10:50] <jrib> Lorra: what's your full command?
[10:51] <le_tigra> i also tried the torrent.. the thing keeps loading and nothing happens X200. im thinking its the site that's bunk...?
[10:51] <djono> does anyone know how i can have ubuntu recognize me touchpad as a ps/2 mouse?
[10:51] <X200> le_tigra, try downloading from a mirror. Here is a list: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[10:51] <Lorra> jrib: I guess you're talking to me, it's cat /proc/modules | sort -r -n -k 3 | awk 'BEGIN {OFS="\t"} {print}'
[10:51] <bekks> djono: You cant do that, technically.
[10:51] <le_tigra> great! thanks X200!
[10:52] <djono> oh. thought it was possible
[10:52] <jrib> Lorra: I think OFS will only have an effect if you actually print some fields (for example, with "print $1 $3" (try))
[10:52] <X200> le_tigra, np :)
[10:52] <jrib> Lorra: erm, print $1,$3
[10:53] <Lorra> jrib: and what if I want to print all fields with my OFS >_<?
[10:54] <tobii> what's the file corresponding to /boot/grub/menu.lst in GRUB2?
[10:54] <jrib> Lorra: http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawk.html#Field-Splitting-Summary (search for "there are times when it is convenient")
[10:54] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how to run C (language) in Ubuntu?
[10:54] <ChaosTheory> Hi all, I'm trying to talk in #radeon channel, but i get a message saying i can't send messges in there? Not sure what I'm doing wrong?
[10:55] <jrib> ChaosTheory: #freenode can help you
[10:55] <morafabio> hello all, can somebody help me with plymouth?
[10:55] <Lorra> jrib: just seen it, sounds one needs to force record rebuild with the first assignment (i.e. $1=$1)
[10:55] <jrib> Lorra: yes
[10:55] <djono> a1recon Open a terminal window.
[10:55] <djono> Compile your source code. e.g. if you're using the GCC compiler, you need to type something like:
[10:55] <djono> gcc my_source.c -o my_app
[10:55] <djono> Run the executable, e.g.:
[10:55] <djono> ./my_app
[10:55] <FloodBot1> djono: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <ChaosTheory> @jrib Thank you.
[10:56] <ChaosTheory> A1Recon: What are you trying to do with C? Write your own C programs?
[10:57] <A1Recon> ChaosTheory: Yep. Just practising it and stuff....
[10:57] <Lorra> jrib: doesn't come out neatly aligned though because some names are too long :-<
[10:58] <ChaosTheory> A1Recon: You shouldn't have to install anything, all you need to do is compile your code. You can do this using a program called gcc
[11:00] <Znoosey> A1Recon, apt-get install build-essential
[11:01] <jrib> Lorra: tried with "column" maybe?
[11:01] <X200> A1Recon, you could downlod Code::Blocks IDE
[11:01] <ChaosTheory> A1Recon: Once you've written you program (I'd recommend a simple "hello world"), run the following in your terminal ~$  gcc foo.c -o foo.o
[11:02] <t0by> Hi! I'm sorry, I'm a bit puzzled about the whole EFI thing. I have a Lenovo T400 with Windows 7 64 installed. How do I know if it has been installed in EFI or old-school mode?
[11:02] <t0by> I installed it myself from the retail (well, MSDN) disks. On install it wanted to create a smallish system partition at the beginning of the disk
[11:02] <t0by> and that's not manufacturer-related, of course.
[11:02] <ChaosTheory> A!Recon: foo.c being your c program source code and foo.o being the compile output. Then just run in your terminal ~$  ./foo.c
[11:02] <t0by> Does this give me aclue?
[11:02] <t0by> Thanks.
[11:03] <ChaosTheory> A1Recon: foo.c being your c program source code and foo.o being the compile output. Then just run in your terminal ~$  ./foo.c
[11:03] <Znoosey> ChaosTheory, try one more time
[11:03] <jrib> Lorra: sort -r -n -k 3 /proc/modules | column -t     produces nice output here
[11:04] <Znoosey> ChaosTheory, it won't do you much good trying to run a .c file >.<
[11:05] <ChaosTheory> A1Recon: foo.c being your c program source code and foo.o being the compile output. Then just run in your terminal ~$  ./foo.o
[11:05] <A1Recon> K
[11:05] <ChaosTheory> Znoosey: yes, thank you typo
[11:06] <Lorra> jrib: oooh, thank you :->
[11:11] <un_reason> Hola gente
[11:11] <un_reason> Estoy haciendo algunas pruebas, alguien me puede decir como puedo saber si xchat se me está comectando bien a traves de vidalia?
[11:12] <jrib> !es | un_reason
[11:13] <un_reason> Hello, anyone can tell me how to know if xchat is connecting either through vidalia?
[11:18] <RonWhoCares> is there a program available for Ubuntu similar to Microsoft Windows " Paint "
[11:19] <bekks> RonWhoCares: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36577/is-there-a-program-like-microsoft-paint
[11:20] <jrib> RonWhoCares: pinta, xpaint, tuxpaint, gnome-paint... there are probably more.  Or use gimp.
[11:28] <dell> how to get the GUI(in ubuntu 8.10) using VM workstation?
[11:29] <jrib> !8.10 | dell
[11:29] <cfhowlett> dell, 8.10?  seriously?
[11:29] <jrib> dell: 8.10 is no longer supported.  You should upgrade as soon as possible
[11:30] <dell> how to upgrade that cd?
[11:30] <jrib> dell: is this a fresh install?
[11:30] <dell> yes, i got when i bought my lappy.
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrades
[11:31] <dell> but i am using Windows 7 as main OS.
[11:31] <jrib> dell: you can download a decent release and burn it to a dvd
[11:31] <jrib> recent*
[11:31] <jrib> !download | dell
[11:31] <cfhowlett> dell, torrent 12.04 for Long Term Support or, if you must, get 13.04 which is supported for only 9 months.
[11:31] <dell> i want to use in VM workstation. HOW to do that?
[11:31] <jrib> dell: you just download the .iso and tell vm workstation to boot from the iso, install, done
[11:32] <dell> ok. Thanx..
[11:35] <ripthejacker> how t use the -map option in avconv
[11:40] <pundit> my ports 6881 as well as 51413 are closed according to canyouseeme.org . what to do about this?
[11:43] <Lukemob> Hi there, I've got a question, I have logged in to a iscsi target and I can see the disk in fdisk.. I have used lvm and created LV, then formatted fs and was ready to use. However, after reboot, I lost the fs.. I can only see unpartitioned disk
[11:43] <t0by> !uefi | t0by
[12:04] <Moon_Doggy> i have ruby 1.8.7-p370 installed from source, how do i uninstall it
[12:07] <X200> Moon_Doggy, there supposed to be an Uninstall script in the source folder. Try "make uninstall".
[12:09] <Moon_Doggy> X200, theres no uninstall script
[12:18] <X200> Moon_Doggy, try to find what was installed with the install script and delete the files manually.
[12:19] <silv3r_m00n> is there a good commandline based partition manager tool that is based in ncurses and has interactive user interface ?
[12:19] <mith_> hey anyone there
[12:19] <wandererex> Hi. I am facing an issue. A file /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen is added on installing xen-system-amd64 package. I moved that file and also removed all the packages with apt-get remove --purge xen-*. Now on reinstalling this package, the file does not reappear. Any reasons.
[12:20] <mith_> hey i disabled my pendrive by command
[12:20] <mith_> how to enable back
[12:20] <mith_> hey anyone
[12:21] <wandererex> Yes hi.
[12:21] <mith_> how to enable pendrive
[12:21] <mith_> its not detecting
[12:22] <wandererex> after attaching type dmesg and then list the partitions with sudo fdisk -l
[12:22] <mith_> its displayin partion tables are not in order
[12:23] <wandererex> then do fdisk /dev/sdX replacable with whatever you saw in dmesg. Press m for help.
[12:23] <eowyn113> hi
[12:24] <mith_> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x444fcb31     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1        1275    10240000   27  Unknown /dev/sda2   *        1275       27002   206651388    7  HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda4           27003       38914    95676260+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/s
[12:26] <mic1980> morning all
[12:27] <mic1980> at least it is here
[12:27] <curatrix> Good evening mic1980
[12:27] <curatrix> ;)
[12:27] <eowyn113> xDD
[12:27] <mic1980> im a complete novice with ubuntu and ive been doing extensive reading to learn more from the website
[12:28] <mith_> # ubuntu
[12:28] <mic1980> but i have some questions if i may
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: ask away
[12:28] <mith_> hey i have few question can i anyone plls
[12:29] <mic1980> i would like to be intricate with specifics, so my dialog may be somewhat rambling
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !ask|mith_,
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> mith_: just ask
[12:29] <mith_> hey my pen drive is not detecting
[12:29] <mic1980> i have two separate hard drives both have been low level formatted and they are identical in every aspect
[12:30] <cfhowlett> mith_, what *buntu are you running?
[12:30] <mith_> mithun@mithun-laptop:~$ sudo fdisk -l  Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x444fcb31     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1        1275    10240000   27  Unknown /dev/sda2   *        1275       27002   206651388    7  HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda4           27003       38914  
[12:30] <mith_> 9.10
[12:30] <mic1980> ive installed windows xp on one drive and the other ive left untouched
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> mith_: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal first before unplugging it physically?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> mith_, well, for one ... that version is End of Life ...
[12:30] <mith_> hey i disabled it in morning
[12:30] <mith_> i am a beginner
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> mith_: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[12:31] <mic1980> im going to install 12.04 on the untouched drive and i want to have dual boot but with ubuntu on untouched drive only.
[12:31] <mic1980> or i think thats what i want lol
[12:31] <mith_> Ubuntu 9.10 \n \
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: leave the drive for ubuntu unpartitioned and the installer will see it
[12:32] <mith_> hey i didnt get you
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> mith_: karmic is no longer supported in any way
[12:32] <mith_> but i am downloading a new version 13.04
[12:32] <mic1980> ive been reading material on formatting drives or drive space as they call it
[12:33] <mith_> i want to boot in my pendrive but its not detecting
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> mith_: then thats fine. you can use unetbootin to make a live usb stick or burn to cd. remeber to md5 test the iso
[12:33] <mith_> hey can u elaborate i didnot understand as i am a beginner
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mic1989: the installer will do it all for you, or you can partition if you use the 'something else' option at install time
[12:34] <mic1980> action- when it comes to the screen of which kind of install i wish to do ive considered or looked at other type of install so i may set my own partition
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mith_: which bit?
[12:34] <mith_> 32
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: that is the something else option.
[12:34] <mith_> i hav some more doubts
[12:35] <mic1980> yes thats right
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> mith_: no, which bit are you confused by
[12:35] <mic1980> but if i set my own partition on the untouched drive will it still dual boot
[12:35] <mith_> my laptop is 32 bit
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: if you want to share data between OSes then keep your casual user data on the Windows side as Windows cannot access Ext4
[12:36] <mic1980> yes i read that, but ubuntu can read and write to ntfs
[12:36] <mith_> thats will installing ubuntu right
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> mith_: no. you said you are confused. Which bit of thr process is confilusing you?
[12:36] <mith_> bit?
[12:36] <mith_> i am not getting u
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> mith_: the arch of anything is not a factor right now
[12:37] <Spec-Chum> hmm, why can't I do sudo apt-get purge phonon-backend-gstreamer without apt telling me to autoclean to remove most of linux?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> mith_: what are you having issue with?
[12:37] <mith_> hey i more doubt
[12:37] <Spec-Chum> it's a huge list it want to take off, all alsa and linux sound, and networking :O
[12:37] <mith_> how to add drivers for my webcam
[12:37] <mic1980> b ut as i asked will it still dual boot with me setting partition for separate drive
[12:38] <curatrix> mic1980: Yeah it will figure out that the MBR is on the other drive and update it
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mith_: depends on the webcam. there is no single answer to that question in ANY OS. Think about it
[12:38] <mith_> my issue is how to enable my pendrive
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: the fact you have 2 drives is irrelevant. The dual boot will be managed
[12:38] <mith_> my sir has given a task
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mith_: do you have unetbootin installed?
[12:39] <mic1980> k thank you.
[12:39] <mith_> he has told me to download a source code for my webcam and install it
[12:39] <banaan> File access rights question, trying to sync data from pc to networkdrive: Somehow unison is able to create (hidden) files on my synology, but unable to access them: sync ends with access denied error. What do I do wrong here?
[12:39] <mith_> can u help me in commands
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> mith_: the newer version may just support your device
[12:40] <cfhowlett> mith_, you MIGHT want to, you know, install ubuntu and THEN do the whole webcam question.  Odds are it's supported by default.
[12:40] <mith_> whaT IS unetbootin
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !unetbootin
[12:40] <dina_> salut
[12:40] <mith_> where i will get
[12:40] <barfod> mith are you on windows right now then?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> mith_: again. there is no single group of commands to fix your webcam. You havent even given us a make and model of the device. Think about it.....just a little
[12:40] <cfhowlett> mith_, ubnetbootin is the software that will let you create a bootable usb form your ubuntu ISO
[12:40] <mic1980> now im still on the webpage for disk space and top of the page suggests simply use as mbr even though the drives may be gpt matters not to me, this is more for learning purposes and getting used to linux for first time but use as mbr, advise of swap file then rest of disk, do you suggest this as my partition table
[12:41] <curatrix> mith_: install cheese (if you haven't already) it can kick start the cam into life
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: could be tricky in karmic
[12:41] <mith_> after downloading cheese what command should i use to install
[12:42] <cfhowlett> mith_, dude.  your software is end of life.  install the supported version otherwise you can't rely on installing ANYTHING with any degree of confidence that it'll actually work.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> mith_: you dont manually download cheese, it uses software centre etc but there are no sources for karmic as it is not supported anymore
[12:42] <curatrix> mith_: I dont know about karmic.............it is normally in the repo  eg  apt-get install cheese
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> mith_  first upgrade your ubuntu, then try again
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: karmic, ubuntu 9.10
[12:43] <curatrix> ActionParsnip: Yes
[12:43] <curatrix> Karmic Koala
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: guess how supported karmic is
[12:43] <curatrix> it isnt is it?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> mith_  i'm sure your technical problems will be solved after you upgraded ubuntu
[12:43] <mith_> hey how to install .tar.gz files
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: exactly
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: so will: apt-get install cheese ,work?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> mith_, again, unsupported platform = unsupported performance.
[12:44] <curatrix> ActionParsnip: As you may have missed  <curatrix> mith_: I dont know about karmic.............it is normally in the repo  eg  apt-get install cheese
[12:44] <mith_> sudo aptitude install build-essential libsdl1.2-dev any explain this command
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> mith_: do a clean install of Precise dude. it is LTS and supported til April 2017
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> mith_: that will also fail, there are no packages for karmic. It is dead. It is not supported
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> mith_  likes attention, s/he won't get that after the problems are solved
[12:46]  * cfhowlett ... was beginning to suspect something along those lines ...
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> mith_: i dont see why you cant understand this, there are zero packages and zero community support for the release you are using
[12:46] <mith_> hey what is wget command
[12:46] <mith_> i got u dude
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> mith_: its a terminal based download command
[12:47] <mith_> i am asking abt coomands
[12:47] <curatrix> ActionParsnip: If you were as 1337 as you seem to think, you would know that Karmic is a debian base and could still use an updated repo
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> OR mith_  is a bot that generates comments, based on what's being said
[12:47] <cfhowlett> mith_, out.  do your own googling
[12:47] <mith_> whats out.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: karmic is not supported here and the official repos are diabled. there are no karmic repos
[12:48] <kostkon_> mith_: we can help you install 12.04 if you want
[12:48] <mith_> i am downloadin 13.04 its on the way
[12:48] <curatrix> ActionParsnip: I'm not going to argue with you in this case because I agree that an update would be the most beneficial......But the fact remains the repo can be updated with a tweak
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> mith_: id use precise. Raring is EOL in January next year
[12:49] <kostkon_> mith_: be aware that 13.04 will be suportwd for only 9 months
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: what? change the sources.list to a later release and update?
[12:50] <mith_> but i wanot to know how to install application
[12:50] <curatrix> That is one way....or you could plug straight into the debian repo and do basically the same
[12:50] <curatrix> The structure is - basically - the same
[12:50] <compdoc> 13.04 is a decent OS, tho
[12:50] <kostkon_> mith_: install 13.04 and then come back here again to ask
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: neither of those methods are advised or supported
[12:51]  * curatrix chuckles
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> mith_: once you install the newer release, use software centre to install applucations
[12:51] <mith_> hey k dude tell about how to install driver from website with source code please help me i hav interview
[12:52]  * cfhowlett ... trolling confirmed
[12:52] <mith_> but sir is telling to install using source code
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> mith_: not in karmic
[12:52] <mith_> kkk dude i will install i am telling u right
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> mith_  what you want cannot be done
[12:52] <mith_> why
[12:53] <curatrix> Yeah Why?
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> mith_  stop asking questions, upgrade, then come back for support
[12:53]  * curatrix wonders when linux became a dictatorship
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> becuause the community doesnt support karmic, it is eol
[12:53] <WILLdude> To get rid of Ubuntu, can I just delete the partitions?
[12:53] <WILLdude> *and grub
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !remove|WILLdude,
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: same in any OS. if its eol the support goes too. its always been that way
[12:54] <mith_> not helpfull man
[12:54] <mith_> k teell how to uninstall karmic
[12:54] <curatrix> ActionParsnip: How does that stop a user from compiling from source?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> willdude: yes, you will need to replace the boot in the mbr
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrades | mith_
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: because it is under karmic and karmic is eol
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: its that simple
[12:55]  * curatrix chuckles some more
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: compiling under supported releases, we can support
[12:55] <kai_> hi
[12:55] <cfhowlett> kai_, greetings
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: easy stuff dude.
[12:56] <hu> \servlist
[12:58] <curatrix> Re compiling from source <MonkeyDust> mith_  what you want cannot be done   <- It can be done fine. Just because the OS is obsolete does not mean that it will no longer function. I set up debian web servers in the late 90's that are still runnning to this day (without fault too I might add)
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> curatrix  if you think you can help him, do so in a private channel, not here
[12:59] <WILLdude> ActionParsnip: How do I replace the boot in the mbr?
[12:59] <mic1980> k im stuck, being novice sucks. regardless, i chose other for my partition scheme and screens shows sda and sda1 with ntfs further shows sdb nothing beside it. i highlight and double click sdb and it creates sdb and sdb freespace
[12:59] <kai_> curatrix Thats why I'am choosing Debian to setup my home server lolz
[12:59] <kai_> :)
[12:59] <cfhowlett> WILLdude, new mbr gets written upon installing new ubuntu ...
[12:59] <mic1980> then i click on sdb free space new screen opens
[12:59] <curatrix> Dude, this is linux ....anything is possible....you dont have to be a douche to people who are doing something that you yourself may not wish to attempt
[13:00] <WILLdude> cfhowlett: I don't want to reinstall.
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> curatrix  karmic is not supported in this channel, read the topic
[13:00] <kai_> WILLdude: what's wrong?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> curatrix, don't address ppl as dude please , use their proper nicks
[13:01] <Ben64> curatrix: whats the point in an eol release? no fixed bugs, no security patches. and its not supported by Ubuntu, or #ubuntu ... stop bringing it up. this channel is for supported releases only, and they're mentioned in the topic
[13:01] <WILLdude> Just decided I don't really like it that much.
[13:01] <kai_> So what if someone's using a old release, Who really cares?
[13:01] <mic1980> i have options to set which file system i want and option to set root directory but nothing for swap file
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> willdude: use the cd from your other OS. Try in ##windows etc
[13:02] <Ben64> kai_: they can do what they want, but they can't come here and get support
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> kai_: if its supported then its suported. Age is fairly irrelevant. Some releases are LTS so supported a long while
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: its channel policy.
[13:04] <mic1980> my hope here is to make some good choices lol
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: whats funny?
[13:07] <BluesKaj>  ActionParsnip lol is punctuation for some ppl , they can't end a sentence without it :)
[13:07] <mic1980> just so many options with linux, any number of choices might be bad choices
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> blueskaj: sadly true
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: the installer will set things up for you. just take the defaults. they are there to accommodate those with limited techy abilities
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: is the system a dual boot?
[13:09] <mic1980> yes but i dont wish to take defaults, i wish to learn and i wish to understand. the point of using linux is to learn the very basics first.
[13:10] <cfhowlett> mic1980, well hell then, do it right.  search "linux from scratch" OR ...
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !mini|mic1980,
[13:11] <mic1980> as i mentioned earlier, i have two drives one with xp and the other has been low leveled
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: then delete the current ubuntu partitions and then use the free space. be sure you have backed up the data you need
[13:11] <curatrix> mic1980: Here is a good starter ( stick it on your desktop for a few weeks) http://lotphelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/filesystemhierarchyhb8.jpg
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: WinXP has less than 300 days support left
[13:12] <nooros> hello. I have ubuntu 13.04. Streaming does not work on uk channel 4 website '4od' giving a digita rights error in firefox and no content in chrome. I have googled and some people say to install the 'hal' package, which i have done and rebooted, but it does change anythiing. (I am in the UK)
[13:12] <mic1980> ive been reading extensively folks but its convaluted and some is very helpful other parts is retraining my brain to understand both acronyms and other terms
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: not really, how much RAM does the system have?
[13:13] <mic1980> im not a techie but i can move around windows pretty good, and have an average to above average understanding
[13:13] <mic1980> i think 2 gb
[13:14] <letkume> How do i make ubuntu boot into kde ? i have kdm in the settings "# cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager" --> "/usr/bin/kdm"
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: the you want 2 partitions, 2.2Gb for swap and the rest Ext4 as /
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: how is that convoluted?
[13:15] <mic1980> thats what i figured however, ive been unable to find a screen allowing to set swap file
[13:15] <darkapp> hey i was wondering if anyone knows any good games in the repository?
[13:16] <mic1980> and personal instruction is not convoluted, the reading material is extensive and as many have said in the forums, its a whole new animal
[13:16] <BluesKaj> !steam | darkapp
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: its in the "something else" option at install time
[13:16] <nooros> darkapp: What kind of game?
[13:16] <darkapp> idk, first person shooters are good
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: urban terror is great. Add the playdeb repo
[13:17] <darkapp> BluesKaj: is that finished yet?
[13:17] <mic1980> im at that screen now, but shows nothing for swap file, or ive not been able to locate it
[13:17] <darkapp> so apt-get install paydeb?
[13:17] <nooros> darkapp: most windows FPS shooters work using wine, also most of the older ID/Unreal ones have linux ports: you'd install those directly though, not from the repo
[13:17] <Znoosey> apt-get install supertux
[13:17] <nooros> darkapp: There is a linux client for steam as well, and TF2 is ported natively
[13:17] <Znoosey> !
[13:17] <BluesKaj> darkapp, dunno , but it's worth checking out , some gamers are very happy about it.
[13:17] <mic1980> brb
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: try researching rather than trying to guess
[13:19] <mic1980> k im back
[13:19] <darkapp> ya, just wanted to hear some suggestions
[13:20] <nooros> Is anyone here able to view 4OD content in the UK on Ubuntu? I *know* it works on gnu-linux as my chromebook does it, but I can't figure out ubuntu.
[13:20] <mic1980> so where in the choice of other do i find where to set swap file
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install urbanteror
[13:21] <darkapp> terror?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: the links on the playdeb site will also work
[13:21] <darkapp> ok sounds good
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: yes, you get the idea
[13:22] <darkapp> i said save file with the link
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: guess where I get all this stuff from.....
[13:22] <mic1980> incidentially, when i choose the default to allow dual boot alongside of xp, then next window showsthe ntfs drive to resize but does not shows option to load on low level drive
[13:22] <darkapp> not sure if it neds installation
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> darkapp: the deb adds the ppa
[13:22] <darkapp> not working :(
[13:23] <darkapp> whats the ppa command maybe?
[13:23] <nooros> mic1980: what does "load on low level drive" mean. WHy would you do that anyway? Are you talking about the bootloader?
[13:23] <curatrix> darkapp: It is just as easy to download the lot from the urbanterror.info site .....It will run from the users home directory
[13:24] <nooros> mic1980: All you need to do is resize your XP partition, create an ubuntu partion, and optionally a swap partition, then follow the installer 'wizard'
[13:24] <mic1980> let me describe what my end goal is.
[13:24] <armin> any hint how to fix "debconf: falling back to frontend: Noninteractive"?
[13:24] <nooros> mic1980: that would be a good idea!
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> curatrix: the ppa allows easier upgrading as the new version will be pulled in when the ppa is updated :-)
[13:25] <simon__> Hello everyone
[13:25] <mic1980> i want to set a completely separate physical hard drive strickly for xp, the second physical hard drive i want ubuntu on it, but i want to have dual boot
[13:25] <Sach> Trying t configure controls in Transcribe to play and stop.  How do I do this?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: once you install to the other drive the dual boot will be handled for you
[13:26] <mic1980> understood
[13:27] <mic1980> what if i remove physically drive one, and just simply install ubuntu on drive two then after completion physically hook up both drives, will dual boot still work
[13:28] <curatrix> no
[13:28] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and an AMD / ATI HD Radeon gfx card with fglrx and Unity installed. Everything works fine, but with an external monitor, I cannot set my virtual monitor's size to encapsulate both screens -- it says the maximum screen size is set lower than the size I want to set. How do I fix this?
[13:29] <mic1980> curatrix was no meant for me
[13:29] <armin> did anyone manage to enable the artwiz fonts on ubuntu 13.04?
[13:29] <curatrix> mic1980: It will write the MBR on the connected drive (ok if you want to select the OS from the BIOS)
[13:29] <eowyn113> hi. I'm running xubuntu 12.04 LTS and my mouse doesn't work, the light is off
[13:29] <nooros> mic1980: I could get ubuntu and win7 or winNT (haha)  working in that situation but I do not how XP does it
[13:29] <eowyn113> mouse connected with usb, desktop
[13:29] <cfhowlett> eowyn113, mouses (mice) wear out.  frequently.  also, if battery operated ...
[13:29] <eowyn113> works very well with windows (dual boot)
[13:30] <cfhowlett> eowyn113, bluetooth or usb?
[13:30] <eowyn113> usb and without batteries
[13:30] <mic1980> well i suppose i could try it, but ideally what i wanted to do was to lay ubuntu on the second drive with xp on the first drive
[13:30] <curatrix> mic1980: There should be a way to select the physical drive ......If the win drive is sd0 then the empty drive would be sd1
[13:31] <ChaosTheory> Where are the logs of a kernel panic?
[13:31] <nooros> mic that is easy assumign each OS has a separate physical drive
[13:31] <nooros> mic1980: Howeever you have stated you want ubuntu and win XP both on the 2nd drive
[13:31] <curatrix> ChaosTheory: /var/log/syslog
[13:32] <mic1980> yes when i get to the install screen i choose other type of partition and next screen shows sda and sda1 with ntfs and second drive shows as sdb
[13:32] <mic1980> but im stuck at that point as i double click sdb and it gives me options but no option for swap file
[13:32] <nooros> mic1980: if you are happy with winxp only on drive 1, ubuntu only on drive 2, and dual boot, then just  install win, then ubuntu, and it will work. If you want winXP on both drives, i dont know XP, i could do it with win7 though
[13:33] <mic1980> no no, i want xp on physical drive 1 and ubuntu on physical drive 2 with dual boot
[13:33] <ChaosTheory> curatrix, cheers
[13:33] <nooros> mic1980: Well that is easy, install winXP on drive 1, install Ubuntu on drive 2, and ubuntu wil set up dual boot
[13:34] <curatrix> mic1980: You should be able to partition the second drive AKA sdb without touching the xp drive
[13:34] <nooros> mic1980: Just make sure you install windows FIRST
[13:34] <mic1980> cool thats what i was looking for hehehe. so bascially ill have to disconnect drive one and install ubuntu on drive two then rehook both drives at end
[13:34] <nooros> mic1980: NO
[13:34] <mic1980> hehehe
[13:34] <curatrix> mic1980: NO
[13:34] <mic1980> sorry am novice
[13:35] <nooros> mic1980: Connect both drives. Istall XP on one drive. Reboot. Instlal ubuntu on 2nd drive. It's done
[13:35] <mic1980> k ive tried that, here is my plight.
[13:35] <curatrix> mic1980: Both drives will have to be connected during the ubuntu install or it will install another MBR on the second drive
[13:35] <mic1980> thats what i thought
[13:35] <mic1980> in theory
[13:36] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:36] <mic1980> look here is what happens on the system
[13:36] <mic1980> ill describe in detail
[13:36] <mic1980> both drives are physciallys setup
[13:36] <OerHeks> mic1980, are these Sata drives ?
[13:36] <mic1980> i use the ubuntu cd for 12.04
[13:37] <mic1980> both are sata identical drives 80 gb
[13:37] <nooros> is windows already installed?
[13:37] <mic1980> xp is installed already on drive one only
[13:37] <OerHeks> xp does not run in AHCI mode, and needs IDE mode to work
[13:37] <mic1980> drive two has been low level formatted nothing more
[13:38] <mic1980> both are connected to the system
[13:38] <parallels> hello all
[13:38] <cfhowlett> parallels, greetings
[13:38] <mic1980> now when the install screen appears the first default is install ubuntu alongside of xp
[13:38] <nooros> how did you install XP on sata in the first place?
[13:39] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:39] <mic1980> if i choose yes, then next screen asks to resize the partition but only shows the active partition for xp therefore only shows 80 and of course default is 40 gb for xp and 40 gb for ubuntu
[13:40] <eowyn113> someone for my mouse problem ? syslog told me  "generic-usb 0003:192F:0916.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:02.0-4/input0"
[13:40] <curatrix> mic1980: Use the do something else option
[13:40] <mic1980> my problem with default is does not see the unpartitioned 2nd physical drive to format and lay ubuntu on
[13:40] <mic1980> did that too
[13:40] <mic1980> hehehe
[13:40] <mic1980> when i choose the other option, i then get screen showing drives, no problem
[13:41] <curatrix> mic1980: Does the BIOS detect the drive?
[13:41] <curatrix> mic1980: eg  Does it show up during POST
[13:41] <curatrix> ?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> sata is just the type of connection , one can still format the drive to ntfs
[13:41] <BluesKaj> nooros,^
[13:41] <mic1980> shows sda and sda1 ntfs which of course has xp on it and also shows second physical drive as full 80 gb not formatted
[13:42] <mic1980> so we are good to go there, no problem
[13:42] <nooros> BluesKaj: If this was about XP on sata, have you tried to install it? ;-)
[13:42] <mic1980> but when i choose the unformatted second physical drive and double click new options are available and i get stuck
[13:42] <curatrix> mic1980: In the 'do something else' option, there should be a way to switch the active drive from sda1 to sdb
[13:42] <BluesKaj> nooros, have you ?
[13:43] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, but the Sata drive in IDE mode for  XP,could bring up these problems installing ubuntu
[13:43] <nooros> BluesKaj: Yes, it needs you to load a sata driver during install, unless they fixed that in a service pack
[13:43] <mic1980> if you double click sdb it shows new screen to format etc, but i am stuck there
[13:43] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:43] <mic1980> ill tell you why im stuck
[13:43] <nooros> mic1980: why stuck? do not know which format to pick?
[13:44] <mic1980> going to tell you now
[13:44] <embassyguy> hey wats app
[13:44] <embassyguy> :D
[13:44] <cfhowlett> embassyguy, greetings
[13:44] <mic1980> the options ive figured out but there has to be a swap file in place and i dont see option for swap file anywhere, they recommend using size of ram to set swapfile, i can format, i can choose file system etc, but no swap file
[13:45] <embassyguy> greetings cfhowleft
[13:46] <curatrix> mic1980: OKay, you need to create a swap partition (as a rule I generally make the swap partition to be 2Gb larger than the amount of RAM you have
[13:46] <curatrix> mic1980: For example if you have 8Gb of RAM, then make the swap partition to be 10Gb
[13:46] <nooros> mic1980 curatrix Well he doesn't *need* a swap partition, it can swap to a file, but yea it helps
[13:46] <mic1980> this i know thankyou, but i dont know where to set swap file there is no option anywhere that i can find in the install
[13:47] <mic1980> yes ive read all about the size etc. but i cannot find option for swap file
[13:48] <nooros> mic1980: I dont remember what they call it in the current installer, but it is there. It's probably "other"? SOmeone here will know. But you do not need a swap partition
[13:48] <mic1980> i understand what your telling me. but i have 2 gb ram that i can use as a pagefile so to speak and it will help with speed etc
[13:48] <curatrix> mic1980: Make the primary partition for Ubuntu to be 70Gb and set the filesystem to be ext4 .....then create another partition and set the filesystem type to swap
[13:48] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and an AMD / ATI HD Radeon gfx card with fglrx and Unity installed. Everything works fine, but with an external monitor, I cannot set my virtual monitor's size to encapsulate both screens -- it says the maximum screen size is set lower than the size I want to set. How do I fix this?
[13:49] <mic1980> k im going to try that now, ill be back in a second
[13:49] <curatrix> mic1980: Break a leg ;)
[13:50] <nooros> mic1980: forget what you know abotu windows and pagefiles. linux works differently. but sure, create a swap partition if you want to, it will help
[13:50] <jpgrms> anyone wants help?
[13:51] <nooros> jpgrms: I have ubuntu 13.04. Streaming does not work on UK channel 4 website '4od' giving a "Digital Rights Error" in Firefox and no content in Chrome. I have googled and some people say to install the 'hal' package, which I have done and rebooted, but it does change anythiing. (I am in the UK).
[13:51] <nooros> If anyone else can solve that too, please! :-)
[13:51] <reisio> nooros: not likely anything to do with hal, at any rate
[13:52] <jpgrms> @nooros sorry not with that particular prob..
[13:52] <ikonia> nooros: http://askubuntu.com/questions/199113/4od-uk-cant-stream
[13:52] <ikonia> it's a flash problem - versions
[13:52] <nooros> reisio: that's what i thought but apparently it's used by their terribad DRM system
[13:52] <reisio> doubt it
[13:52] <nooros> ikonia: I have the latest one
[13:53] <ikonia> nooros: doesn't mean it's supported/works as flash for linux is dead
[13:53] <reisio> ikonia: is it now
[13:53] <anom> Hi, is there a PPA for PHP 5.5 yet?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> nooros, well , XP is bit long in the tooth anyway , W7 is probly the best MSOS around
[13:53] <nooros> ikonia: Well it works with chromeos, and it used to work until 13.04, how you recommend it fix it?
[13:53] <ikonia> nooros: from what I'm reading - you don't,
[13:54] <ikonia> nooros: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[13:54] <curatrix> nooros: Is adobe-flashplugin   installed?
[13:54] <djono> hello is there a program that can flash me external dvd drive?
[13:54] <reisio> djono: flash?
[13:54] <reisio> djono: do pick a channel
[13:54] <nooros> curatrix: Yes, and i can view most other flash content
[13:54] <mic1980> k it worked so far, but question do i need to format the swap file
[13:54] <djono> flash my dvd drive firmware
[13:55] <cfhowlett> mic1980, no you need not format the swap file
[13:55] <reisio> djono: what makes you think you need to do soemthing like that
[13:55] <ikonia> djono: your vendor will need to provide a linux flash program, or you'll need to use boot media
[13:55] <reisio> mic1980: swap is its own "format"
[13:55] <mic1980> thanks brb
[13:56] <nooros> reisio: ikonia This used to work until 13.04 http://m.jguk.org/2012/10/resolved-channel4-4od-working-with.html
[13:56] <ikonia> nooros: re-read what I said
[13:56] <ikonia> nooros: saying "it used to work" backs up what I've just told you
[13:56] <staticLNX> ugh X.X
[13:56] <nooros> ikonia: so why does it work with chromeos?
[13:56] <reisio> their site says it should work on Linux, so maybe they don't know they've broken it yet
[13:56] <ikonia> nooros: READ the links I've given you, actually read them
[13:56] <reisio> nooros: Chrome OS has a different Flash version than Firefox
[13:57] <reisio> nooros: you could try Google Chrome (not Chromium) for Linux
[13:57] <nooros> reisio: I have tried chrome on ubuntu
[13:57] <ikonia> nooros: read the links
[13:57] <reisio> nooros: apparently they have a youtube channel
[13:57] <nooros> ikonia: So the link says it's not supported. Fine. however some people hav it workign and i need to find out why so i can get mine working
[13:58] <ikonia> nooros: again READ the whole link
[13:58] <ikonia> not just the first line
[13:59] <nooros> ikonia: I dont know what you are trying to achieve. It still works for some folk, and I would to find out why, rather than write it off
[14:00] <curatrix> nooros: I wonder if it is a security certificate that is stopping the video. I can check from this end as I am using LTS
[14:01] <curatrix> *can't
[14:01] <nooros> curatrix: interesting, thanks, i will look into that
[14:02] <nooros> reisio: You are right, there is a youtube channel, but they don't have all the content.
[14:04] <Giwrgaras> adobe doenst support ubuntu anymore?
[14:04] <Giwrgaras> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[14:07] <mic1980> folks i want to say a sincere thank you, it seems to be working now install is proceeding. i really appreciate it. cant stick around for reply but thanks
[14:07] <nooros> reisio: This is how terrible Adobe's code really is: Post 29 by adobe staff :-)  http://forums.adobe.com/message/4797142#4797142
[14:08] <ikonia> nooros: it's not "bad" - they don't support linux so new versions of sites that require the new version of flash won't work, it's that simple
[14:08] <ikonia> so I'm not sure why you are saying "bad code bad code", it's just a version miss-match
[14:09] <nooros> ikonia: They are using the HAL package for drm
[14:09] <decci> Any alternative to Microsoft Exchange? I tried installing Open-xchange but I failed to implement
[14:09] <Giwrgaras> can i see youtube with html instead of flash for my chromium?
[14:09] <reisio> nooros: I might believe it if installing hal actually helped you
[14:09] <decci> I looked at Zimbra but the open source edition has limited feature
[14:09] <reisio> Giwrgaras: some youtube videos, yes
[14:10] <nooros> reisio: It has helped some, see ubuntu forums. Many ppl saying "sudo apt-get install hal" fixed 4od and flash. Can find you many links if you want :P
[14:10] <reisio> nooros: sure, but in _the past_ hal was something that distros still used
[14:11] <reisio> nooros: so again, I might believe it if installing hal actually helped you _now_
[14:11] <nooros> reisio: Yes i know, this is why it's amazing that they are even still using it :) Some folk here saying it worked from end of 2012 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074459
[14:12] <nooros> reisio: I agree, it's utterly bizzare
[14:12] <Giwrgaras> where are the program files in ubuntu?
[14:12] <Giwrgaras> im trying to access my python bin but i cannot find where are th programfiles in ubuntu or how they are called
[14:14] <nooros> Giwrgaras: just type 'python' .. but you can use 'which python' to locate it
[14:14] <reisio> nooros: well we already knew Adobe was quite bad at everything :p
[14:14] <reisio> it'd be interesting if new versions of Flash coming with Chrome still made use of hal in any way
[14:14] <nooros> Giwrgaras: BTW you have very little legit reason to mess with the contents of the *system* python runtime. Install a python venv if you want a separate envrionment
[14:15] <Giwrgaras> istore modules inside thats why i want to find the root file
[14:15] <nooros> Giwrgaras: Why?
[14:16] <Giwrgaras> to have easy access to them and to be in the module library the modules that i write
[14:16] <nooros> Giwrgaras: I recommend you go to ##python and ask them how to set up your python env in a standard manner
[14:16] <Giwrgaras> but generally where are the program files in here how are they called
[14:16] <Giwrgaras> ok
[14:17] <h221> my computer doesn't boot, doesn't even beep.. And I have an ubuntu liveCD.. is there any thing I can do with the liveCD to make it boot?
[14:17] <nooros> Giwrgaras: Giwrgaras load python, "import sys" then print sys.path
[14:18] <reisio> h221: if it doesn't turn on at all? No
[14:18] <curatrix> h221: Is there a power switch on the back?
[14:18] <nooros> Giwrgaras: Ubuntu OS *requires* python to run so do NOT mess with anythng in there, setup your own environment
[14:18] <h221> The cpu turns on...
[14:19] <h221> I'm on an irc.. I'm not that dumb.. srsly?
[14:19] <curatrix> h221: Can you access the BIOs
[14:19] <curatrix> ?
[14:19] <h221> It doesn't recognize the display..
[14:19] <nooros> h221: How do we know how many computers you have?
[14:19] <h221> nor the USB keyboard.
[14:22] <anom> Upgrading Ubuntu. :O
[14:23] <anom> Shitting bricks. Did not back up anything.
[14:24] <contrapunctus-i> anom - Nothing goes wrong.
[14:24] <contrapunctus-i> anon - usually :p
[14:30] <mile> hello
[14:30] <mile> i come from China
[14:31] <kai_> Garry's Mod on LINux, I love steam. THey just give you the linux versions for free if you have the windows ones :)
[14:31] <maskupe> hi, my drive C cannot be mounted, i dont know why.. but i need to open my drive c because I have to reformat my compter... and i need to back up my files.... what should i do?
[14:31] <kai_> maskupe: can you boot up into WINdows?
[14:31] <maskupe> i am in usb mode ubuntu...
[14:31] <maskupe> kai ..
[14:31] <kai_> maskupe: yes?
[14:32] <nooros> maskupe: does it see the drive?
[14:32] <maskupe> do you know how to fix my problem?
[14:32] <maskupe> my HD has two partitions C and D
[14:32] <kai_> maskupe: can you see it in Disk Mangement?
[14:32] <maskupe> but i cannot open C
[14:32] <kai_> *Disk Utility
[14:32] <nooros> maskupe: Does it see the partition?
[14:33] <maskupe> i on ubuntu how do i open the disk utility? im new to ubuntu
[14:33] <nooros> maskupe: At the top left, the dash. Open it, type 'disks'
[14:33] <nooros> maskupe: You should see an icon showing a drive and a wrench. that is what you need
[14:33] <kai_> Just search disks in the ubuntu menu
[14:33] <BlackScholes> .
[14:33] <maskupe> doing....
[14:33] <kai_> YOu can get to it be hitting the Windows key and typing in DISK Just like you would on Windows 7
[14:34] <nooros> maskupe: Doing that, you can mount the partition, and it will appear in Files
[14:34] <maskupe> i can see it/..
[14:34] <kai_> ^^^
[14:34] <kai_> Right click it and mount i belive
[14:34] <nooros> maskupe: So now use that to "mount" it
[14:34] <MrChip> hi
[14:34] <MrChip> I am new to linux
[14:35] <reisio> MrChip: hi
[14:35] <reisio> I am old to Linux
[14:35] <kai_> MrChip: Noones new to linux, You've used it for years. You just didn't know it. LOLZ
[14:35] <MrChip> I need some help to install my Huawai modem (tata photon plus )
[14:36] <kai_> Mrchip: YOu own a android phone?, A smart tv?, A playstation 3?, Used sites like google ext that run on linux servers.  LOLZ, But anyway welcome. I've never heard of Hauwai modems if you could explain what you need help with
[14:36] <sometwo> I am having some issues with my NFS mounts. I have a user mount in fstab and I mount it as my user. I am unable to read anything or even list the files on the share. The folder even has some weird file permissions d??????? ??? ??? in ls -la. If I sudo ls -la everything is looking perfectly and I can read the files on the share. What is up here?
[14:36] <nooros> kai_: microsoft.com is hosted on citrix :-)
[14:37] <kai_> nooros: Microsoft Skype runs on Linux
[14:37] <nooros> kai_: It's written in delphi you know!
[14:37] <kai_> nooros: I used to run Linux on my Playstation 3, Then I got a firmware patch to the knee LOLZ
[14:38] <kai_> Anyone got Halo Reach?, On the Xbawwx Free Sixty? Looking for someone to do co-op with.
[14:38] <kai_> lolz
[14:39] <MrChip> Its a USb modem
[14:39] <maskupe> how do i pastebin?
[14:39] <kai_> maskupe: You give linus cookies, Then strip naked and run to your local supermarket and start scream I'AM JESUS.
[14:39] <kai_> that's how you use pastebin
[14:39] <kai_> jk :)
[14:40] <nooros> maskupe: http://www.paste.ubuntu.com
[14:40] <reisio> MrChip: what does 'lsusb' say about it?
[14:40] <nooros> maskupe: You can also type 'pastebinit <filename>' from the terminal
[14:40] <maskupe> thanks nooros
[14:40] <raven_> how to control cpu frequency?
[14:40] <nooros> maskupe: That terminal command might not be installed on your livecd
[14:40] <MrChip> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 12d1:140b Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. EC1260 Wireless Data Modem HSD USB Card
[14:41] <w30> sometwo, you get those ???? permissions when you kave someone besides the user that you are using ls. I f you are logged in as the one that mounted the files then the permissions show up right
[14:41] <sometwo> w30, no
[14:41] <sometwo> it is the other way around
[14:42] <reisio> MrChip: http://www.google.com/search?q="12d1%3A140b" site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[14:42] <sometwo> w30, the user that mounts them (my user) cannot see the file permissions, root can however.
[14:42] <raven_> how to control cpu frequency?
[14:42] <lida_ok> hello. can anybody here me?
[14:43] <sometwo> lida_ok, no
[14:43] <curatrix> raven_: use cpufreqd and get its associated packages (gui etc)
[14:43] <raven_> curatrix, tnx
[14:43] <curatrix> raven_: It is in the download manager/synaptic
[14:43] <kvant> Hello
[14:43] <sometwo> w30, I read something about fuse that only the user that mounts can see the file permissions.
[14:44] <maskupe> nooros, pm
[14:44] <nooros> maskupe: I have pm turned off, can you ask in channel?
[14:44] <maskupe> ok
[14:45] <maskupe> i got this
[14:45] <maskupe> http://pastebin.com/55bXdnL2
[14:45] <maskupe> if you dont mind...
[14:45] <Mekzholan> Hello everyone - I'm getting fed up with the internal WLAN with Broadcom BCM4313 => now I want to use an external USB WLAN dongle.
[14:45] <Mekzholan> So that I don't et the same problems again: what hardware here is known to work very well? What should I buy?
[14:45] <sometwo> w30, I found the problem now. my kerberos ticket had expired
[14:45] <ikonia> Mekzholan: usb dongles as a rule do not have great support, check the hardware compatability lists for linux
[14:46] <nooros> maskupe: it is saying it cant mount the drive as the drive is broken. I dnt know how to fix windows drives. Some other guys here might know
[14:46] <ikonia> Mekzholan: if possible find one without the need for external kernel modules
[14:46] <sometwo> and for some reason root had a ticket ...???
[14:46] <w30> sometwo, ahhh.....
[14:46] <maskupe> okay
[14:46] <maskupe> thank you
[14:46] <maskupe> can you recommend someone?
[14:47] <MrChip> i tried installing usb-modeswitch package from the extracted file, but nothing happened
[14:47] <MrChip> it didnt get installed
[14:48] <Mekzholan> ikonia: you mean something like http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices/USB ? But how do I figure out if it's working well?
[14:48] <daftykins> Mekzholan: why not consider changing the internal card, also?
[14:48] <Mekzholan> The BCM4313 is also supported - but wrecks the lokal WLAN...
[14:48] <ikonia> Mekzholan: well, if it's listed on that list, it means supported....meaning it works
[14:49] <raven_> curatrix, i have xubuntu 13.04 - cpufreqd not able to install and xfce plugin runs but has no effect
[14:49] <curatrix> raven_: Is cpufreqd in the repository?
[14:49] <Mekzholan> daftykins: hm, I don't know how easily I can change the internal card. It's a Dell Vostro
[14:49] <raven_> yes but errors while instlling
[14:50] <lida_ok> .
[14:50] <curatrix> raven please  grep error /var/log/syslog        and pastebin the response
[14:51] <daftykins> Mekzholan: i thought Vostros were the desktop units. should be pretty easy
[14:51] <reconmaster> anyone had trouble running 13.04 in vmware with the shared folders?
[14:51] <lida_ok> Can someone help me to open Teamviewer on Ubuntu 12 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5845291. Thank you.
[14:51] <Mekzholan> daftykins: no, Vostros are laptops
[14:51] <ikonia> reconmaster: why don't you just explain YOUR problem rather than worrying about what others have / have not seen
[14:51] <reconmaster> can't get vmware shared folder module to compile in the kernel with 13.04r
[14:51] <reconmaster> 13.04*
[14:52] <ikonia> reconmaster: have you cheked it's compatability on the vmware site/requirments/support list
[14:52] <daftykins> Mekzholan: they're both it seems. no underside panels to uncover it?
[14:52] <raven_> curatrix, pastebin.com/bcKeFvZM
[14:52] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: 12 what?
[14:52] <reconmaster> ikonia: no, im not bothered one way or the other, i just went back to LTS i was just curious if anyone else noticed the bug
[14:52] <tga_> greetings
[14:53] <ikonia> reconmaster if you've not checked if it's meant to work, you can't call it a bug. Do some ressearch, or if you're not bothered, don't
[14:53] <tga_> I just got my LUKS+LVM2 system unbootable, probably by running out of space on /boot
[14:53] <lida_ok> zero2XIII ı explain my problem on the link.
[14:53] <tga_> I could use some hints on how to rebuild everything, just doing an update-initramfs in chroot didn't help
[14:54] <Mekzholan> daftykins: well I'm just trying to look at the repair manual of how to get close to the card. I don't even know how the form factor is called that I have to search for...
[14:54] <MrChip> join #huawei-g300
[14:54] <cfhowlett> MrChip, it's /join
[14:55] <daftykins> Mekzholan: mini PCI/PCI-E typically, something like an intel 6300 would be top end 802.11n with 3 antennas
[14:55] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: you propably is not in the correct folder when you try and run the file. or is it installed in ROOT/APPS/TEAMVIEWER....
[14:55] <tga_> atm as far as I can tell my root fs isn't getting mounted
[14:55] <umit> my web videos play fast
[14:55] <umit> what can i do?
[14:55] <ikonia> tga_: rebuild everything ???? why
[14:55] <rypervenche> tga_: Any errors when you start your system? Where does it stop?
[14:55] <umit> i use xubuntu studio 13 with firefox
[14:55] <Gilligan94> sorry this is unrelated but does anyone know how to join the chat for a twitch.tv chat via smuxi?
[14:56] <tga_> rypervenche: atm it fails to find the root device, /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[14:56] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: also teamviewer is in the repro's, why are you manually installing?
[14:56] <curatrix> raven_: It may have been a freak event or a reaction with another process.......... try sudo apt-get purge cpufreqd
[14:56] <tga_> rypervenche: in busybox I unlocked the device but it's still lvm and I can't mount it
[14:56] <zhonghai> @fsrv2
[14:56] <zhonghai> @fsrv2
[14:56] <zhonghai> @fsrv1
[14:56] <zhonghai> @five-by-5
[14:56] <tga_> rypervenche: I'm not getting prompted for a LUKS password either, so something is going wrong there
[14:56] <Giwrgaras> how do i see folder paths in ubuntu?
[14:56] <zhonghai> @find
[14:57] <zhonghai> @find j
[14:57] <rypervenche> tga_: Do you have LVM on LUKS or LUKS on LVM?
[14:57] <tga_> rypervenche: lvm on luks
[14:57] <tga_> default encrypted setup
[14:57] <curatrix> raven_: Then restart and try to reinstall.............after installation, you will have to restart the pc(you shouldnt have to but I have always done it with cpufreqd as it integrates with ACPI (power management) functions
[14:57] <lida_ok> zero2XIII i want to open on every machine. thats why it is portable. my friend does not allow me to install it on his machine.
[14:57] <zhonghai> @help
[14:58] <daftykins> Mekzholan: i'm assuming it comes up under lspci and not lsusb though? :)
[14:58] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: also teamviewer has a *.deb package on their website, if you NEED 8.
[14:58] <rypervenche> tga_: Can you pastebin your fstab for us and manually mount your drive using a live disk and then run a df -h for us as well?
[14:58] <tga_> rypervenche: how do I get around rebuilding all the boot stuff? shouldn't update-initramfs do that?
[14:58] <Mekzholan> daftykins: yup
[14:58] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: what you mean with: "or is it installed in ROOT/APPS/TEAMVIEWER....". this is a portable version.
[14:58] <tga_> rypervenche: yeah, I'm booting a livecd now
[14:58] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: so you want  a poratble version like the windows version?
[14:58] <raven_> curatrix, ok ill try that tnx
[14:58] <curatrix> raven_: Break a leg ;)
[14:59] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: the paths in the link you gave are root locations aka not based in your home folder
[14:59] <Mekzholan> daftykins: seems it's easily acceable. And ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_vostro_notebook/vostro-3700_service%20manual_en-us.pdf shows on page 74 a picutre of the module
[15:00] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: ı should put it on my /home/username/ folder? why? ı get all permissions of /apps already.
[15:01] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: it is just strange to need to put it there, then own the directory, when you can simply run it from your home folder with no permission issues.. Tell me slowly again what you want to do
[15:01] <Mekzholan> daftykins: but looking on e.g. http://www.amazon.de/Intel-4965AGNMM2WB-Netzwerkkarte-Wireless-Mini-PCI/dp/B000RFPBQQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1371999146&sr=8-7&keywords=laptop+wlan+karte the connection looks similar - but the length is much longer?!?
[15:01] <tga_> rypervenche: mm stupid question, after opening the LUKS device how do I mount the lvm partition?
[15:01] <BlackmanOMG> HI MOTHER BUCKERS
[15:02] <ikonia> BlackmanOMG: please grow up if you want to participate in the channel.
[15:02]  * tga_ can't find the vg device anywyere
[15:02] <daftykins> Mekzholan: look up the exact card for a comment on its' interface name
[15:02] <BlackmanOMG> can i use ubuntu as CONDOM?
[15:02] <ikonia> tga_: you'll need an active volume group and logical volume before you can mount it
[15:02] <rypervenche> tga_: vgchange -a y
[15:03] <tobii> I want to change the root partition in  GRUB2. Where do I make the setting (it used to be /boot/grub/menu.lst in GRUB1 but it doesn't exist anymore)?
[15:03] <daftykins> tobii: /etc/default/grub perhaps
[15:03] <tga0> hm, device-mapper: create ioctl on ubuntu-root failed: Device or resource busy
[15:03] <curatrix> tobii:  look for 40custom
[15:04] <tobii> curatrix, kk
[15:04] <tga0> rypervenche: so this could be why the boot also fails, I can't make ubuntu-root active
[15:04] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: here the latest version of my explanation: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5845337
[15:04] <BlackmanOMG> HI HI THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH MY AUDIO CAN ANY PEOPLE HERE HELP ME YO YO YO YO
[15:05]  * curatrix chuckles
[15:05] <Mekzholan> daftykins: 12:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[15:05] <Mekzholan>         Subsystem: Dell Inspiron M5010 / XPS 8300
[15:05] <cfhowlett> ikonia, smite/ban and nuke that fool, please.
[15:05] <Mekzholan> daftykins: and it seems to be Mini PCI Express Half-Size, I guess
[15:05] <tobii> daftykins, /etc/default/grub doesn't have the partitions locations
[15:06] <daftykins> Mekzholan: http://www.amazon.de/Intel-Ultimate-N-Wireless-LAN-Mini-PCIe-Karte/dp/B0038A9HSK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371999870&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+6300
[15:06] <cfhowlett> Mekzholan, i've the same wifi chipset.  There's a way to enable it directly from the boot cd/usb with about 2 minutes in the terminal.  Didn't even need to reboot and it's worked ever since.
[15:06] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: did you make all files execute able? Are you using the .tar.gz file or a .deb package?
[15:08] <rypervenche> tga0: What's it's saying?
[15:08] <Mekzholan> daftykins: thanks, size seem to fit. :) But what about the 3rd antenne? The laptop has only two of them...
[15:08] <lida_ok> zero2XIII: tar gz ofcorse. i did the file executable.
[15:08] <tga0> rypervenche: device-mapper: create ioctl on ubuntu-root failed: Device or resource busy
[15:08] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: Oka i will try and duplicate wat you are trying to do....
[15:09] <daftykins> Mekzholan: you could ignore it or get another and trail it around into the LCD, too much work though. the lower model 6100 i think it is has only 2
[15:09] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII: thank you so much.
[15:09] <Eagleman> Can rsnapshot run daily and weekly jobs at the same times without having a conflict?
[15:09] <daftykins> Mekzholan: of course sometimes laptops won't even let you change the card, so there is some risk. have you seen cfhowlett's message about your existing being easy to setup?
[15:10] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII you can connect me via teamviewer.
[15:10] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII do not make all this thing again.
[15:11] <Mekzholan> daftykins: yes I have seen cfhowlett, but I fear it's not helping me. The card is working. But either slowly or making WLAN unusable for every one else. All with lot's of system log entries. Launchpad is full of them...
[15:11] <Mekzholan> daftykins: I guess http://www.amazon.de/Intel-Advanced-N-PCI-Express-Netztwerkkarte-unterst%C3%BCtzt/dp/B003QXDHSK/ref=sr_1_16?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1371999971&sr=1-16&keywords=wlan+mini+pci+express would be a good alternative then
[15:11] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: oka?
[15:11] <jrib> Eagleman: I don't see why not, but why would you want to do that?  I do recall it being suggested that you space out your backup times a bit so they don't happen at the same time.  I imagine it would still make the backups though
[15:11] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII send me pm please.
[15:12] <lida_ok>  zero2XIII i will give you password and id of teamviewer.
[15:12] <daftykins> Mekzholan: yeah that's the one
[15:12] <Eagleman> jrib, i am setting up my cronjob for rsnapshot
[15:12] <tga0> rypervenche: alright, so I am in a chroot, how do I fix my boot situation?
[15:12] <tga0> rypervenche: other than update-initramfs all
[15:12] <zero2XIII> lida_ok: araight
[15:12] <rypervenche> tga0: give us a df -h and and your fstab
[15:13] <rypervenche> tga0: In a pastebin of course.
[15:13] <Mekzholan> daftykins: thanks for the help, I'll order it and try my luck now :)
[15:13] <delac> any  way to disable auto start of sshd on 13.04?
[15:13] <jrib> Eagleman: yes, just give some time for each backup... That's what I do.  Something like 3am monthly, 3:30am weekl, 4am daily, etc.
[15:13] <Eagleman> jrib, but there might be people out there that will have rsnapshot run for a few hours before it will be completed, so i have no idea how they set up their timings for rsnapshot on a cronjob
[15:14] <daftykins> Mekzholan: no problem!
[15:14] <wissam> Hi ,how can i view google translate result in the command line without opening the webpage?
[15:15] <wissam> using wget or other tool for example?
[15:16] <flux242> http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/tagged/1189/translate
[15:16] <tga0> rypervenche: http://pastie.org/8072260
[15:16] <curatrix> wissam: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17034
[15:16] <tga0> rypervenche: nothing too interesting in there
[15:17] <tga0> rypervenche: one potential issue is that I installed the system on /dev/sda and now the same disk is on /dev/sdd
[15:17] <tga0> afaict all mounts are by UUID though
[15:18] <flux242> I always check commanlinefu first for all cli commands
[15:18] <wissam> t curatrix:thnx
[15:18] <wissam> curatrix:thnx
[15:18] <rypervenche> tga0: That'll do it.
[15:18] <curatrix> wissam: Break a leg ;)
[15:19] <tga0> rypervenche: so the problem is that on boot my encrypted volume doesn't get opened and /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root doesn't exist
[15:20] <tga0> that is after running out of space on /boot on an upgrade
[15:20] <rypervenche> tga0: Your /boot is encrypted?
[15:20] <tga0> of course not
[15:20]  * iarebaboo is very happy
[15:20] <tga0> that would be interesting
[15:21] <Turaylon> hi guys, i have  a little problem: i have windows 8 installed on my ssd and i have a second hdd for data storage, now  i have installed ubuntu on the second hdd but when i boot my pc windows 8 starts whitout grub is showing up. i must reinstall grub?
[15:21] <tga0> rypervenche: when running update-initramfs -u I am getting warnings about my root fs missing from /etc/crypttab
[15:21] <reisio> Turaylon: did you install Windows after Ubuntu, or before?
[15:22] <Turaylon> reisio, before
[15:22] <rypervenche> tga0: What's in /etc/crypttab? pastebin it
[15:22] <tga0> rypervenche: not sure whether that's an issue, I read somewhere those are not a problem
[15:22] <reisio> Turaylon: k, probably whatever automated grub installation happened failed, then
[15:22] <reisio> you'd have to reinsatll it, and probably manually :)
[15:22] <tga0> rypervenche: empty for all practical purposes
[15:22] <compdoc> Turaylon, in the bios, see what happens if you set the pc to boot the hdd
[15:22] <tga0> rypervenche: I only have 2 storage drives in there, nothing about ubuntu-root
[15:22] <nooros> Turaylon: is this uefi?
[15:23] <rypervenche> tga0: It needs to have root in there.
[15:23] <tga0> oh
[15:23] <Turaylon> nooros, uefi?
[15:23] <orogor> hi , anyone here converted to uefi boot ?
[15:23] <Turaylon> compdoc i give a try
[15:24] <nooros> orogor: i have installed under UEFI, difficulty varies depending on machine. I think people (hardware and linux) have bugs to fix stil
[15:24] <rypervenche> tga0: Also, are you 100% sure that your /boot is using that UUID in your fstab?
[15:25] <rypervenche> tga0: run "blkid" to make sure.
[15:25] <Turaylon> btw i try to reboot whit other hdd :D see you soon :P thx all
[15:25] <tga0> rypervenche: /boot is fine because I get a fully functional busybox
[15:25] <tga0> the trouble is with my root fs not being mounted
[15:26] <rypervenche> tga0: Yep, and that is why. If you need help with the syntax pastebin your current crypttab and I can help.
[15:26] <tga0> rypervenche: what UUID should I have for root in crypttab?
[15:26] <tga0> rypervenche: blkid /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root?
[15:26] <tga0> or /dev/sdd5, that is the encrypted volume?
[15:27] <tga0> rypervenche: nm, /dev/sdd5 of course
[15:27] <rypervenche> tga0: it will show up in blkid, I would just use the /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root but if you feel that you have to use the UUID, you can find it in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[15:28] <kingvillage> hang when I press minimize button in unity, but mouse still responsive, what happen about this?
[15:28] <nooros> kingvillage: Have you turned off the 'allow file manager to use desktop' or have gnome 3.8 installed?
[15:29] <nooros> kingvillage: either of those 2 on 13.04 have a bug where it sometimes hangs when you  minimis the last window
[15:29] <kingvillage> nooros: i dont have gnome 3.8 installed
[15:30] <tga0> rypervenche: well, I added my ubuntu-root to /dev/crypttab but update-initramfs still complains
[15:30] <tga0> rypervenche: it might not be an issue though, not sure there
[15:30] <kingvillage> yes it hang when minimize last window, how to do about this?
[15:30] <rypervenche> tga0: Pastebin the file /etc/crypttab
[15:30] <yva> Whne I try to connect a google apps account to ubuntu I have the following error: (gnome-control-center:13180): credentials-cc-panel-CRITICAL **: cc_credentials_account_application_switch_on_app_account_enabled: assertion `service != NULL' failed any ideas where the issue could be?
[15:30] <tga0> rypervenche: ubuntu-root UUID=dead-beef none luks
[15:31] <tga0> rypervenche: with the UUID of my /dev/sdd5, that contains the encrypted root
[15:31] <rypervenche> tga0: Please pastebin the whole thing
[15:31] <tga0> rypervenche: that is the whole thing
[15:32] <delac> any  way to disable auto start of sshd on 13.04?
[15:32] <k1l_> delac: edit the upstart job
[15:32] <k1l_> !upstart | delac
[15:32] <tga0> rypervenche: any idea what script decrypts and mounts the root fs at boot?
[15:33] <rypervenche> tga0: Um...your UUID is dead-beef?
[15:33] <rypervenche> tga0: I thought you said that you had your storage drives in your crypttab as well?
[15:33] <lovethang_> Hi folks, I have a Kubuntu VM that has an encrypted home directory on.  The entire OS has fallen apart at the hinges, and I am desperate to get my data off.  I have no access to login to KDE, how can I quickly achieve an early console before X launches please?
[15:33] <tga0> rypervenche: I told you, the uuid is the one for /dev/sdd5, that holds the encrypted root
[15:34] <tga0> rypervenche: and that's the whole file, I took everything else out
[15:34] <delac> k1l_: so you are saying that editing the /etc/init/ssh.conf should do the trick? does that file survive if sshd is updated?
[15:35] <Giorgaras> where are the program files in ubuntu?
[15:35] <Giorgaras> how are they called?
[15:35] <Turaylon> nothing, if i set other HDD , windows start too
[15:36] <Turaylon> i try to reinstall grub, just a little question: i must install it on the hdd where is installed windows or where is installed ubuntu?
[15:36] <wheatthin> Turaylon, where you installed ubuntu, and then set ubuntu to boot first
[15:37] <wheatthin> in bios
[15:37] <gabriele_> delac: echo "start on manual" >> /etc/init/ssh.override
[15:37] <LucidDreamZzZ> hey pls how to fix mouse speed in ubuntu?
[15:37] <Turaylon> thx
[15:38] <rypervenche> tga0: Your entry in /etc/crypttab is wrong.
[15:38] <curatrix> Giorgaras: http://lotphelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/filesystemhierarchyhb8.jpg
[15:38] <tga0> rypervenche: alright, what should be in there?
[15:38] <rypervenche> tga0: It should be "ubuntu /dev/sdd5 none" if that is where you have your encrypted partition
[15:39] <rypervenche> oops, sorry, not ubuntu, root rather
[15:39] <LucidDreamZzZ> mouse is way way way too fast
[15:39] <rypervenche> I think...not sure now.
[15:39] <Turaylon> is a valid solution use boot-repair?
[15:39] <tga0> rypervenche: right, so instead of /dev/sdd5 I have the UUID
[15:39] <tga0> it seems to also accept that
[15:40] <rypervenche> tga0: It's not supposed to be "ubuntu-root" though.
[15:40] <tga0> oh, ok
[15:40] <rypervenche> tga0: Either ubuntu or root, I don't remember which. I haven't done this on a Debian-based system in a while.
[15:41] <delac> gabriele_: thanks, this seems like it might actually work
[15:41] <nimbiotics> hello all. how can i find out the nsame of my video card ... which i cant remember? TIA!
[15:41] <orogor> if on uefi i should have a /boot and a /boot/efi  ?
[15:41] <tga0> rypervenche: do you happen to know how --hint-baremetal works in grub.conf?
[15:42] <curatrix> nimbiotics: inxi -Gx
[15:42] <tga0> rypervenche: grub.cfg rather
[15:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> mouse to fast pls advise tried control panel and its at the lowest setting
[15:43] <tga0> rypervenche: http://pastie.org/8072336
[15:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> its hard to even do anything
[15:43] <tga0> rypervenche: this is in my grub.cfg, if you look at the "search" lines what devices are those? hd3,msdos1, etc
[15:44] <nimbiotics> curatrix: i get "command not found"
[15:44] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: Some mice(mouse)have a resolution switch on the mouse(sometimes it has to be opened to change a jumper)
[15:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> curatrix, ok it has the buttons to switch on mouse but they dont work, it is g500
[15:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> thnaks maybe im using diff mouse
[15:48] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: checking
[15:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah ms intellimouse is working fine
[15:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> would there be drivers even that would be nice
[15:51] <auronandace> LucidDreamZzZ: if you are running 10.04 then desktop support has ended
[15:51] <nintet> i need help with my permissions
[15:52] <nintet> i cant write to a new disk
[15:52] <LucidDreamZzZ> i am on the lts desktop
[15:52] <tga0> rypervenche: if I do get the xubuntu graphic and then a busybox prompt that means that my grub is working fine, right?
[15:52] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: Type       man xinput            and have a read....I am still searching
[15:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> curatrix, ok great i try that may be what i need
[15:54] <wheatthin> tga0, it means grub is installed fine, but configured wrong.. it finds boot, but not the root where the installed kernel is
[15:55] <tga0> grub.cfg has become a mess, it used to be sweet and short
[15:55] <tga0> now it's this long autogenerated file with everything under the sun
[15:55] <overdrive> hols
[15:55] <tga0> wheatthin: my encrypted root doesn't get mounted at boot so I'm trying to figure out why
[15:56] <overdrive> hi
[15:56] <tga0> wheatthin: it's normal for the boot partition to be set as root in grub, right?
[15:57] <giwrgaras> i cannot copy items to my lib?
[15:57] <giwrgaras> wth
[15:57] <giwrgaras> ??
[15:57] <wheatthin> tga0, no. boot is always /boot
[15:57] <tga0> wheatthin: in grub.cfg
[16:01] <curatrix> LucidDreamZzZ: http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Cut-mouse-polling-rate-in-half-td1448994.html
[16:08] <chunkyhead> guys, i got list of packages installed from dpkg --get-selections, now how do i install them using a script maybe? i dont want to sit and type sudo apt-get install
[16:09] <wheatthin> chunkyhead, you can cat the list of packages into a file
[16:09] <chunkyhead> it's already in a file, can you elaborate a bit more?
[16:09] <wheatthin> truncate it, enough to just list the packages, and not version.. and then install it
[16:10] <wheatthin> then cat file | apt-get install
[16:10] <jrib> chunkyhead: « man dpkg », scroll to the EXAMPLES section and then see the examples involving --get-selections and --set-selections
[16:10] <chunkyhead> but how to make them appear one by one not all at once
[16:10] <chunkyhead> wheatthin, ^
[16:10] <chunkyhead> jrib, let me check that out
[16:11] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software && dselect #select and install all packages from list in current working directory
[16:12] <chunkyhead> what do you mean by installed software zero2XIII
[16:12] <MJCD> Hey guys - I have a filesystem question. If I have a directory /a/ and I create a folder /a/b/ - the file modification time of /a/ is updated, but if I create /a/b/c/, then /a/'s modification time does not seem to get updated
[16:12] <MJCD> ?
[16:12] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: that is the file name: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[16:13] <jrib> MJCD: that seems plausible
[16:13] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, what would dselect do?
[16:14] <tga0> rypervenche: interesting, I found one issue that might break things
[16:14] <tga0> ubuntu-root and ubuntu-cache are both inside /dev/sdd5
[16:14] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it is a package management front end... but I forgot, it is not installed by default
[16:14] <tga0> so mapping /dev/sdd5 to "ubuntu-root" doesn't allow ubuntu-root to come out
[16:15] <chunkyhead> no wonder wasn't getting on the manpage zero2XIII
[16:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sorry my bad :$
[16:16] <MJCD> yeah I just did a test case
[16:16] <MJCD> [/a/ created a: 1372004043] [/a/b created: a: 1372004083 b: 1372004082] [/a/b/c created: a: 1372004083 b: 1372004137 c: 1372004136]
[16:16] <MJCD> So it's correct, it only changes the modified time one directory up
[16:16] <MJCD> that seems pretty dumb
[16:17] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: dpkg -i should then install the selected packages
[16:17] <rednet> wie komm ich in den deutschen anfänger irc
[16:17] <rednet> für ubuntu
[16:19] <Guest54349> is there anyone use cubiboard
[16:19] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, dpkg -i installs deb packages right? these are name of packs on a text file. more over when i type sudo dpkg --set-selections < file-name, i get alot of warnings like these "dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 13: w3m"
[16:20] <rednet> who is the german channal for ubuntuuser baisic
[16:20] <k1l_> rednet: "/join #ubuntu-de"
[16:20] <Neuhristide> :/
[16:21] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: then those are 3rd party repros, or not activated repros. and yes, or you can try the dpkg -a option (dpkg --pending)
[16:21] <Neuhristide> Okay I can speak, so, I have a question : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792146/ With this list I don't have KDE 4.10.4 ..
[16:21] <d4rkn30> is there any way i can remove the main Ubuntu mirrors ?
[16:21] <chunkyhead> yes they are 3rd party repos, zero2XIII
[16:21] <Neuhristide> but KDE 4.10.4 is on Backport repository, and backport repository is in this list
[16:21] <Neuhristide> What I must do for fix that ?
[16:22] <k1l_> d4rkn30: can you rephrase?
[16:22] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: then you need to add them to the repro list first, then sudo apt-get update, and then do the dpkg --set-selections < file-name and after that do the dpkg -a (or dpkg --pending)
[16:22] <d4rkn30> k1l_, you see , i searched for fastest mirrors, but it still wants to use the ubuntu.com ones
[16:23] <k1l_> d4rkn30: you can change the ursl in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:23] <k1l_> d4rkn30: but be aware of the changes and make a backup of that file
[16:23] <d4rkn30> k1l_, thats what i thought but i wasnt to sure, if it would break my install \
[16:24] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, repo list is sources.list right?
[16:24] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: yes as far as I know
[16:24] <chunkyhead> located in /etc/apt?
[16:24] <k1l_> chunkyhead: the PPA dont come into the sources.list
[16:24] <wheatthin> after changing to the faster server, use apt-get update
[16:25] <k1l_> chunkyhead: just use add-apt-repository
[16:25] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I install ubuntu server on normal PC ?
[16:25] <wheatthin> KeyboardNotFound, yup
[16:25] <k1l_> KeyboardNotFound: yes
[16:25] <aguitel> yes
[16:25] <d4rkn30> KeyboardNotFound, yes
[16:25] <chunkyhead> k1l_, but i have hundreds of repos to add lol
[16:25] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: k1l_ is right, PPA's dont go there... Looking for alternative now...
[16:26] <aguitel> only cli
[16:26] <k1l_> hundreds? o_O
[16:26] <d4rkn30> chunkyhead, then make a script,
[16:26] <chunkyhead> i was thinking of creating a .sh file which says sudo apt-get install -y <packname>
[16:26] <KeyboardNotFound> What are the requirements for installing of ubuntu server ?
[16:26] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and an AMD / ATI HD Radeon gfx card with fglrx and Unity installed. Everything works fine, but with an external monitor, I cannot set my virtual monitor's size to encapsulate both screens -- it says the maximum screen size is set lower than the size I want to set. How do I fix this?
[16:26] <chunkyhead> but then that's too much of an editing job d4rk0wl zero2XIII
[16:27] <chunkyhead> i was thinking of creating a .sh file which says sudo apt-get install -y <packname>, but then that's too much of an editing job d4rk0wl zero2XIII
[16:27] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: pastebin your install file, and the source list
[16:28] <draar> KeyboardNotFound: the minimum *recommended* are on the website. You can fit into a lot less space if you try
[16:29] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: even if you create such a script, you still need to add the sources.
[16:29] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, sources.list = http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792977/, packs= http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792985/
[16:29] <jrib> MJCD: why do you say it is dumb?
[16:30] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: thanks give me a few...
[16:30] <k1l_> KeyboardNotFound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[16:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, for some yes, for most others i won't have to. the left out ones. give u a few what?
[16:30] <Friberg> Hello :) Anyone running HD7970 with multiple monitors in Ubuntu?
[16:30] <wheatthin> chunkyhead, minutes
[16:30] <MJCD> jrib, Because in what way has the outer container (/a/) not been modified when it has new contents
[16:30] <chunkyhead> lol my bad wheatthin
[16:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[16:30] <jrib> MJCD: a directory is basically just a listing of its contents.  When you add a file to /a/b, b changes (i.e. the list of contents in b changes), but a does not (i.e. the list of contents of a does not)
[16:31] <draar> MJCD: How would you tell when was the last write to / ?
[16:31] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: the ones that gave erros in dpkg will not install, the other will. I want to create a script real quick to add the extra repros for you
[16:31] <MJCD> draar, huh
[16:31] <jrib> MJCD: this is my understanding of how it works.  I see why you may want it to work the way you are saying though.
[16:31] <draar> MJCD: If you did it your way, any timestamp on / would be meaningless as anytime you saved any file, the parent would update its modification timestamp?
[16:31] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, let me edit the pack lists real quick, hold on
[16:31] <KeyboardNotFound> Which is best ubuntu server version /
[16:31] <chunkyhead> coz most are ubuntu preinstalled, "just give me a few" :P
[16:31] <chunkyhead> ^zero
[16:31] <MJCD> draar, Only on the parent directory.. not on any of its contents
[16:32] <draar> KeyboardNotFound: define "best"
[16:32] <MJCD> and only the filemtime
[16:32] <chunkyhead> coz most are ubuntu preinstalled, "just give me a few" :P zero2XIII
[16:32] <k1l_> KeyboardNotFound: there is no best. just use the LTS, since its got long suport timeframe
[16:32] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oka, this also seems like the original source list? hahahaha yea sorry that was a typo
[16:32] <KeyboardNotFound> Thanks
[16:32] <chunkyhead> yep it is zero2XIII
[16:33] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oki doki
[16:33] <chunkyhead> actually i'd del the edited one, testdisk ftw! zero2XIII
[16:34] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, woohooo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792995/
[16:34] <draar> MJCD: Wouldnt that be inconsistent? How would it work with symlinks?
[16:34] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: thats a clean install?
[16:34] <draar> KeyboardNotFound: What specific thing will you be using the server for?
[16:35] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, installed 13.04 today. was real tired of slow kde screwing my laptop.
[16:35] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: so you want the diference between the two files to be installed?
[16:35] <MJCD> draar, Regardless, it would always iterate up... So creating /home/MJCD/a would affect /home/ and /MJCD/ with the current time
[16:36] <MJCD> and hell, even / with the current time
[16:36] <MJCD> it makes sense to me
[16:36] <chunkyhead> no no, i just want to install these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792995/
[16:36] <draar> MJCD: so the timestamp for / will be continually changing?
[16:36] <MJCD> its like if you had a bunch of different sized boxes.. You put a small box inside a medium box.. Then you put the medium box inside the large box..
[16:36] <MJCD> Is the large box different than it was?
[16:36] <MJCD> Ofcourse it is.
[16:37] <chunkyhead> no no, i just want to install these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792995/ zero2XIII
[16:37] <MJCD> It's got two boxes inside it it didnt have before
[16:37] <draar> MJCD: There are hundreds of file operations every second; what would this do to system performance?
[16:38] <draar> MJCD: And besides the whole point of a hierarchial file system is to separate things so you dont look inside the box
[16:38] <MJCD> It already updates two. It would only become an issue with paths say.. 100 directories deep.. Which does happen.. but if you're writing to files 100 directories deep every secon
[16:38] <MJCD> d
[16:38] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oh oka then just pipe that file to dpkg and see what programs need 3rd party repros
[16:38] <MJCD> you probably have bigger issues
[16:38] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it will be the ones with erros
[16:39] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it works on my system, marks them with no errors so I have all the repros
[16:39] <MJCD> draar, The whole point of a HIERACHIAL system is usually to implement complete inheritance models..
[16:39] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, this should do it right? dpkg --set-selection < packagesnew && dselect
[16:40] <raven_> how to improve night vision of motion? any way to increase shutter time to 1 second?
[16:40] <zero2XIII> if you installed dselect before that yes
[16:40] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sudo apt-get install dselect
[16:40] <chunkyhead> lol yeah did that zero2XIII
[16:40] <reisio> raven_: better camera
[16:40] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: then yes it should work
[16:41] <raven_> reisio, how to do that by software
[16:41] <reisio> raven_: by selling software to earn money to buy a better camera
[16:41] <jrib> chunkyhead: do note that you don't need to install dselect (though it's fine if you do).  dpkg man page gives the apt-get command you can use instead
[16:41] <raven_> reisio, you think you're funny?
[16:41] <draar> MJCD: Talking about inheirtance now? You know that if you make a class in (say) C++ and you inherit from it, and you change an instance of the derived class, it doesnt set any kind of modification flag on the parent instance unless you specifically tell it to?
[16:42] <zero2XIII> jrib: what is it, I have looked over it then hahaha
[16:43] <jrib> zero2XIII: apt-get dselect-upgrade
[16:43] <zero2XIII> jrib: Ah just found it, almost the very bottom, thanks :)
[16:44] <d4rkn30> whats the name of the filemanager in xubuntu
[16:44] <chunkyhead> for some reason this looks like sudo apt-get upgrade to me :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793018/
[16:44] <reisio> raven_: I know I am, but if you're asking if I'm trying to be funny ATM, I'm not
[16:44] <stefg> d4rkn30: thunar
[16:45] <d4rkn30> stefg, Thanks
[16:45] <zero2XIII> jrib: gave you credit for pointing me at it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140012&p=12623446#post12623446
[16:46] <draar> d4rkn30: Thunar (thunarr?)
[16:46] <draar> wow that was lagged
[16:46] <d4rkn30> draar, Just a little bit xD
[16:47] <chunkyhead> for some reason this looks like sudo apt-get upgrade to me :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793018/ except for 3-4 packages, i've to add repos for the rest -__-
[16:47] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[16:47] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: did you do "apt-get update" before you ran apt-get dselect-upgrade?
[16:47] <chunkyhead> i did zero2XIII
[16:47] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: are all your repros active? multiverse and universe? cause "cheese" is in the normal repros
[16:49] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, when i type sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade it gives me the same output as sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:49] <chunkyhead> and i did not do dselect-upgrade, my bad
[16:50] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: yea i thought you might not have, strange, try sudo apt-get install cheese
[16:50] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: just want to see if that gives error aswell
[16:50] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, was going exactly that hold on
[16:51] <chunkyhead> the repos is working zero2XIII it asks me if i want to install cheese y/n, i guess the problem is with dpkg
[16:51] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[16:52] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: that truelly is strange, install synaptic, and do it in there, (if you have GUI environment). Both works fine for me... just installed the complete list on my system
[16:52] <Friberg> wow. not even ubuntu runs good on my machine. just crashes with all the screens :(
[16:54] <reisio> :D
[16:54] <stefg> Friberg: so that machine might be to blame, not the OS... did a hardware check recently? (bad RAM, dying harddrive?)
[16:54] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, what do you want me to install thru synaptic?
[16:55] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: the list, you can select the list in synaptic. By going file > read markings
[16:55] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead:
[16:56] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: hold on a sec
[16:56] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, that should contain just packnames right?
[16:56] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: nope the exact same file you are trying to send to dpkg can be used in synaptic
[16:56] <sgo11> hi for postfix and dovecot, I followed the tutorial in ubuntu wiki and make dirs by using maildirmake.dovecot /home/vmail/$domain/$user/.Sent etc.. But when I do test with evolution imap client, sent mails and drafts are not saved in those directories. why? and how can I make all sent drafts mails saved automatically? thanks.
[16:57] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: look here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=79006
[16:58] <stefg> sgo11: while i have no idea about your problem you might want to ask this in #ubuntu-server
[16:58] <sgo11> stefg, ok. thanks.
[17:00] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: try "dselect update" and then the above again if it fails with database warnings again.
[17:02] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, i dont use synaptic that often, help me out. i go to read markings and then add my packfile and then it says mark additional required changes, chosen action affects other packages, the following changes are required in order to proceed, lists all the packages which i get when i type sudo apt-get upgrade an then asks me to mark, when i click once it closes(the mark window) and i have synaptic in front of me. after t
[17:02] <chunkyhead> hat?
[17:03] <cesar_> hola
[17:03] <cesar_> buenos dias amigos
[17:03] <Guest52700> quiero por favor un consejo de ustedes
[17:03] <stefg> !es
[17:04] <Guest52700> necesito cambiar todas las maquinas de la empresa para la que trabajo a ubuntu
[17:04] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: check if stuff is correctly marked, such as amarok?  you click on the top left column header to show all the marked to install packages first (like sorting)
[17:04] <Guest52700> me recomiendan algun tema para que se parezca a windows porque los usuarios no entienden ubuntu
[17:05] <oye> Guest52700: #ubuntu-es
[17:05] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, i get this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793083/
[17:06] <DJones> !es | Guest52700
[17:06] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: you need to close synaptic and all other package management programs first, otherwise the directory stays locked
[17:06] <Guest53578> Me estas hablando a mi?
[17:06] <Guest52700> si a cualquiera
[17:06] <Guest53578> ok
[17:06] <Guest52700> que me pueda ayudar
[17:07] <Guest53578> Por que cuando trato de instalar amd catalyst 13.04, ununtu me instala es la version 12.1?
[17:07] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, get the same thing when i run apt-get dselect-update with synaptic shut
[17:08] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: are all the package management programs closed?
[17:08] <chunkyhead> yep zero2XIII
[17:08] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: hold on a sec, just wana see something before I tell you to remove the lock file
[17:09] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, sure
[17:10] <chunkyhead> can you see this?
[17:10] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[17:10] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: yes sorry
[17:10] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: trying to duplicate the issue for the exact command
[17:10] <chunkyhead> i d/c so was checking am i back
[17:11] <marcoagpinto> Hello
[17:11] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oraight
[17:11] <Dustin> Hi there. I am on Ubuntu 13.04, fresh install, new user. Now when I use "sudo gedit filename.extension", how come in the same directory a "hidden" file is created with the same name, followed by "~" IE: "filename.extension~" and never removed after?
[17:11] <varikonniemi> ok, someone try this: take firefox, left-maximize it and then press maximize. Does it bug out for you?
[17:12] <Friberg> stefg: Well, I've been running Windows 8 for some time, with 2 screens in height, 3 in width for quite some time now. 5760x2160.
[17:12] <reisio> Dustin: it's called a 'swap' file
[17:12] <varikonniemi> wow, not only firefox but any window? !
[17:12] <reisio> Dustin: it's useful if things go wrong
[17:12] <Friberg> So I doubt its the hardware
[17:12] <marcoagpinto> I have ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 in VMs... I was updating 12.10 and it showed a progress bar... on 13.04 there is no progress bar... I entered my password and pressed ENTER... was there something I needed to click?
[17:12] <Dustin> reisio: do they ever remove themselves? Or do I have to manually do that?
[17:12] <reisio> Dustin: most things that use such files remove them upon successfully, normally ceasing activity to do with the file
[17:13] <reisio> Dustin: so when things go wrong, they remain, and when they go right, they do not
[17:13] <reisio> some editors allow the option to have them remain regardless, which is odd :)
[17:13] <reisio> I doubt gedit is one, but I've never used it much
[17:13] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: I am having a hard time getting a clean command just do this:
[17:13] <reisio> brb
[17:13] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:13] <AfroDiva> Why when i try to install amd-catalyst version 13.4 it always install version 12.1?
[17:13] <varikonniemi> guys? is this a known bug in unity? left-maximized windows fail to maximize!
[17:14] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, should i backup lock first maybe?
[17:14] <stefg> Friberg: that's probably a not so well tested use case for graphics drivers...
[17:14] <Dustin> reisio: awesome, thank you for the information. I do think gedit is doing it, as I always use gedit as my edior, that or nano. Regardless, I have OCD, hate knowing that there are a bunch of "swap files" that are being created, every time I edit a certain file. (I did restart, has been a few hours, they still exist).
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no it is a file created by a program to have exclusive access to a folder or drive etc. It does nothing but "lock" it to that process
[17:15] <Friberg> stefg: I guess not. I'm running HD7970 with two DVI and four DP for this. But yeah, doesn't work out of the box :(
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead:
[17:15] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, semaphore! Ooo.
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oooh hold on
[17:15] <Dustin> reisio: yes, after further investigating, there is an option
[17:15] <Dustin> thank you
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sudo fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:15] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: that works to show what process is locking the directory
[17:16] <r33t> i need help finding my wlan!
[17:16] <chunkyhead> nope, i get blank. no o/p zero2XIII
[17:16] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: great, then just rm it
[17:17] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: and then dselect update again
[17:17] <r0uh> Hello, his is everyone?
[17:18] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, 172mb to download T_T
[17:18] <r33t> how can i find my wlan ? comp: hp-probook-4515
[17:19] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: so everything is working now?
[17:19] <chunkyhead> shoudn't sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade just ask me to upgrade dselect and not everything else?
[17:19] <Friberg> Now I have all my screens and can move my mouse around, but I have no UI..
[17:20] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no JUST "dselect update"
[17:20] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no apt
[17:21] <reisio> Dustin: yeah it's more useful for system files than personal files
[17:21] <reisio> so you can quickly fix a screwup, instead of restoring from backup
[17:21] <reisio> vim does it by default, for example
[17:21] <reisio> Dustin: I've seen some where you could specify the path, as well, so it's always, for example ~/unified.swp
[17:21] <chunkyhead> this is funny zero2XIII  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793130/
[17:21] <Dustin> reisio: that would be cool
[17:21] <reisio> and you don't have to end up doing things like find ~/ -iname '*.swp' (-delete)
[17:21] <Dustin> I would like the ability to do that.
[17:22] <reisio> or *~, etc.
[17:22] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: meh.... see "sudo dselect access"
[17:22] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: is the apt  line selected?
[17:23] <chunkyhead> selected as in zero2XIII
[17:23] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: a little star I think
[17:24] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: ill upload a pic
[17:24] <btbradley> I've got a touchscreen that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. it seems random and can change when you suspend or shutdown. anyone have any ideas?
[17:25] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, it has the star
[17:25] <raven_> how to set image size in MOTION?
[17:25] <chunkyhead> http://screencloud.net/v/u9Wf zero2XIII
[17:25] <zero2XIII> oh awesome
[17:25] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: ^
[17:26] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: try doing the dpkg step now
[17:27] <chunkyhead> dpkg --set-selections < packname && dselect. this right?
[17:27] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: remove the && dselect for now
[17:27] <nimbiotics> Hello all. While trying to install latest nvidia drivers (this has also happened before though) I get asked to ""please insert the disc labelled 'Ubuntu-Studio 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Release i386 (20130424)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter"" I insert the cd I used for installation purposes and press enter, only to have the same requested again and again. How can I fix this?? TIA!!
[17:27] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: just "sudo dpkg --set-selections < packname "
[17:27] <btbradley> I think it must be some sort of timeout that sometimes gets hit and sometimes doesn't when it loads the driver or something...the touchscreen always appears in the xinput list regardless of whether it's working or not
[17:28] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793157/, but then it didn't install anything O.o
[17:29] <odziom91> nimbiotics: delete cd/dvd repository from /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:29] <raven_> how to set image size in MOTION?
[17:29] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: meh... :/... you still the same error :(
[17:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, no, it has reduced.
[17:30] <nimbiotics> odziom91: do i just delete that sources.list file?
[17:30] <Dustin> reisio: is there a way to search for all "backup" files that have been created? I would like to remove them, if they're ones I've previously edited and know are safe.
[17:30] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, help me understand what's wrong, maybe i can help
[17:30] <Dustin> a wildcard to find all with the extension~
[17:31] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: dpkg is not finding the package name in its database to select it for installation. However apt-get finds it, so it does exist.
[17:31] <odziom91> nimbiotics: don't delete file - just open it (on root) in text editor and delete or comment line
[17:32] <chunkyhead> let me get this correct, doesn't dpkg only install packs whose deb is pre-downloaded? like apt-get downloads packs and dpkg installs em right? zero2XIII
[17:32] <odziom91> nimbiotics: with cd/dvd repository ofc
[17:32] <nimbiotics> odziom91: thx
[17:32] <chunkyhead> im not a professional linux guy, but that's what i know, you might know more zero2XIII
[17:32] <chunkyhead> im a newbie as a matter of fact :P zero2XIII
[17:33] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: not specifically, that is one functionally though, but not the ONLY one...
[17:33] <odziom91> nimbiotics: ah... and then in terminal write: sudo apt-get update  and press enter ;)
[17:33] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: try the synaptic approach, otherwise I will just make a script real quick
[17:33] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, so here when we say dpkg --set-selections, shouldn't we already have the packs already downloaded int he same directory?
[17:34] <nimbiotics> odziom91: didnt do the apt-get update but seems to be working nonetheless. THX!!
[17:34] <chunkyhead> how will you make the script? zero2XIII
[17:34] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: not as far as I have read online... simple SED real quick to format the file into a LONG apt-get request
[17:35] <chunkyhead> SED zero2XIII ?
[17:35] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: so please pastebin the file you are piping to dpkg
[17:35] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, that even i can do. wouldn't want you to go thru so much trouble!
[17:35] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: sed is a terminal application that manipulates strings of text based on certain criteria
[17:36] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, let me try it out then, packname is sed right?
[17:36] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: it wont take me even 5 minutes, but you are welcome to do it yourself if you wish
[17:36] <chunkyhead> wanna learn! zero2XIII
[17:36] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: no need to install it
[17:36] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: oka hold on
[17:36] <chunkyhead> yeah noticed zero2XIII
[17:36] <chunkyhead> i loved your signature "switched from xp to 9.04 havent' looked back ever since" haha!
[17:36] <chunkyhead> zero2XIII, ^
[17:37] <nimbiotics> Is there an IRC channel for wine??
[17:37] <zero2XIII> chunkyhead: hahahaha yea, that was WAAAAY back when.. hahaha.. Still true today :)
[17:37] <A1Recon> Orbitron for Linux??
[17:37] <IdleOne> nimbiotics: #winehq
[17:38] <bobrun> Hi. I've been using lighttpd from the package manager, and now I'd like to use a 3rd party plugin (https://github.com/nori0428/mod_websocket) that requires building lighttpd from source. How can I do that?
[17:38] <nimbiotics> odziom91: installation finished, hope it worked out
[17:38] <nimbiotics> odziom91: installation finished, hope it worked out, THX again!
[17:38] <nimbiotics> IdleOne: Thanks a lot
[17:39] <Turaylon> finally,  all works *_*
[17:39] <Turaylon> thx all for all help :)
[17:40] <Turaylon> there is a good terminal like a windows that scroll from top?
[17:41] <Friberg> compiz dies when i try to logon. says something about segfaulting, error in libcomposite.so.
[17:45] <Yonderfork> Hey, so I'm trying to connect my computer to my
[17:46] <daftykins> ...
[17:46] <Yonderfork> TV via s-video.
[17:46] <Yonderfork> (Sorry)
[17:46] <daftykins> oh that again :( what graphics card?
[17:46] <Yonderfork> I'll check.
[17:47] <daftykins> also which ubuntu and which graphics driver?
[17:47] <daftykins> and what century is this :( S-Video is really, really bad
[17:49] <anom> Upgraded Ubuntu. Lost all my sql db's. :(
[17:49] <anom> Not a happy bunny
[17:49] <reisio> anom: what makes you think they're gone?
[17:50] <anom> Cannot find them.
[17:50] <Yonderfork> It says "Unknown".
[17:50] <reisio> anom: how're you looking for them?
[17:51] <bobrun> was it just the dbs, anom?
[17:52] <anom> I think so. PHPMyAdmin is gone too.
[17:52] <Yonderfork> Also, this is a really old computer, so it doesn't have HDMI or anything.
[17:52] <Yonderfork> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.
[17:52] <jrib> anom: you should have backups, but I don't see how that can happen anyway.  Are you sure?
[17:53] <daftykins> Yonderfork: are you that one that built a gaming PC with all your money whilst at College, so want to have some old laptop output onto an old school TV?
[17:53] <reisio> he's clearly not sure :)
[17:53] <Yonderfork> ...No.
[17:53] <daftykins> Yonderfork: just checking. very similar circumstance with another user recently. so what ubuntu did you put on? what's the computer?
[17:54] <excelsiora>  A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.
[17:54] <excelsiora> any suggestions?
[17:54] <daftykins> excelsiora: which PPA did that error go against?
[17:55] <excelsiora> I don't know
[17:55] <daftykins> excelsiora: ok in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update | pastebinit"
[17:56] <Yonderfork> 12.04, and it's an old E-Machines computer. I don't really know much beyond that.
[17:57] <excelsiora> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793234/
[17:57] <excelsiora> that's a cool pipe
[17:57] <daftykins> excelsiora: oh ok it's not got an issue with one of those, was it a GUI updater throwing the error?
[17:58] <excelsiora> no
[17:58] <excelsiora> Just me and my terminal, I think
[17:58] <excelsiora> GUI is a little flakey
[17:59] <daftykins> excelsiora: i wonder if this is relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80680/cannot-update-system-error-during-signature-verification
[18:01] <excelsiora> daftykins: I'll try it
[18:02] <wad> Hi guys. I'm poking at a box I set up and configured a while back. It's an internet gateway machine. I think I disabled the "networking", and set it up manually, but I don't recall for sure. How could I tell?
[18:02] <daftykins> wad: so it'd have static addressing, or be stand-alone?
[18:03] <wad> It uses DHCP to get an IP from the ISP on the WAN, and runs DHCP on the LAN side.
[18:03] <bekks> wad: cat /etc/network/interfaces - do you see configured IP addresses in there?
[18:03] <bobrun> I've installed lighttpd from the package manager and now I'd like to add a plugin that requires being baked into lighttpd's source. I'd like to keep the way the package manager set up the environment, though. How might i attempt that?
[18:03] <wad> dynamic on eth0 (WAN), static on eth1 (LAN)
[18:03] <wad> The "networking" service is somewhat of a mystery to me.
[18:04] <excelsiora> daftykins: thanks, I think that worked
[18:04] <excelsiora> ls
[18:05] <daftykins> excelsiora: cool
[18:06] <wad> Ugh, this machine has both /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3
[18:06] <excelsiora> daftykins: here's the instructions I followed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-extras-keyring/+bug/893743/comments/7
[18:06] <wad> Seems like I used to use dhcp3, but "ps -ef | grep dhcp" shows it's using dhcp not dhcp3. Which would I be using?
[18:06] <wad> There are dhcpd.conf files in both /etc directories.
[18:07] <bekks> wad: Check which is installed.
[18:07] <excelsiora> daftykins: now can you help me troubleshoot my wifi UI ?
[18:07] <wad> bekks, like with dpkg -L ?
[18:07] <bekks> wad: Like using dpkg -l e.g.
[18:08] <wad> Looks like just dhcp is installed.
[18:08] <daftykins> excelsiora: what exactly is happening?
[18:08] <excelsiora> I suspend to ram frequently, and when I bring it back up, wifi interface is buggy and I can't even figure out a workaround to connect to a new wifi
[18:08] <wad> I guess I can get rid of /etc/dhcp3 then...
[18:08] <excelsiora> without rebooting, that is.
[18:08] <excelsiora> I'm hoping my update fixes it.
[18:08] <wad> excelsiora, because of that issue, specifically, I never suspect to RAM. I just power down the laptop every time.
[18:08] <wad> s/suspect/suspend/
[18:08] <daftykins> excelsiora: yeah if you're not 100% fully upgraded it'd be hard to comment
[18:08] <Yonderfork> Bye.
[18:09] <excelsiora> ok
[18:09] <excelsiora> Well I think I am no
[18:09] <excelsiora> w
[18:09] <daftykins> excelsiora: run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to be sure
[18:09] <excelsiora> I guess I should reboot and then play with it and report my experience
[18:10] <excelsiora> daftykins: Maybe I'm dumb, but I went ahead and did it without thinking about it. What does that do exactly?
[18:11] <wad> Ugh, a bunch of stuff is different than I'm used to! Looks like some things changed in an update or something. How do I bounce dhcp now? There's no "service" for it, that I can tell... what is this "isc-dhcp-server" thing?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> suspend does not use ram to save sleep does
[18:11] <bekks> excelsiora: It upgrades your distro to the latest version.
[18:11] <bekks> wad: Thats your DHCP server.
[18:11] <vee_> hey, every time i run skype, i get this error skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. i read about installing the i386 version of things, and i did, but i still get that error
[18:11] <excelsiora> I thought I was working with the latest version
[18:11] <excelsiora> but it's downloading stuff
[18:11] <daftykins> excelsiora: get the latest versions of every package
[18:12] <daftykins> *gets
[18:12] <wad> bekks, okay, I'll use that then. Thanks.
[18:12] <excelsiora> Maybe because I did the instructions I linked to
[18:13] <excelsiora> essentially I moved the old apt list
[18:13] <excelsiora> so maybe it has to redownload everything?
[18:14] <excelsiora> Seems to be moving pretty quickly
[18:15] <bobrun> How can I find information about how packages are installed?
[18:15] <sw> vee_: Does libGL.so.1 exist in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/?
[18:16] <sw> bobrun: What do you mean by that?
[18:16] <bobrun> Most browsers support at least some sort of websocket. http://test.mosquitto.org/sys/
[18:16] <bobrun> sorry, wrong channel
[18:17] <excelsiora> sweet, daftykins looks done
[18:17] <excelsiora> thanks
[18:17] <Tking> hi pls i need help am on mobile, i boot ubuntu on text mode, when i hit alt+f7 to go to gui i get a black screen and blinking cursor
[18:17] <excelsiora> ok, now what?
[18:17] <bobrun> sw: I'd like to see where a particular package from the package manager puts its files
[18:17] <excelsiora> reboot?
[18:17] <excelsiora> restartx?
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> Tking, If you boot in text does it reach the login or just a tty?
[18:18] <daftykins> excelsiora: you'll want to restart yes, especially if there was a new kernel
[18:19] <excelsiora> ok, stand by for restart
[18:19] <excelsiora> :) I'll update you guys when I'm done
[18:19] <Tking> wilee-nilee i get to login
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> Tking, What happens if you just login, I'm trying to understand you description, there is missing info.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> your*
[18:21] <Tking> wilee-nilee, when i login, i see blank screen as normal i can view directory etc. but cant go back to gui
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> Tking, Is your definition of login in text still a tty or the login gui?
[18:22] <Tking> tty
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> Tking, Ah, try sudo stop lightdm then sudo start lightdm  at that tty.  Has it ever booted to the gui and if so what has led you hear, possibly a graphic driver install?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> booted to the regular desktop not gui actually
[18:24] <bobrun> So, with a package from a PPA, is there a way to see its Makefile?
[18:25] <syntroPi> Tking, maybe you want to look at "dmesg" aswell as "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> bobrun, PPA's install debs like the regular repo generally.
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> bobrun, You might include your goals here.
[18:27] <bobrun> wilee-nilee I'd like to see how the lighttpd package is configured, so as to replicate it when building from source.
[18:27] <excelsiora> hey hey! wifi UI seems to be working after suspending to ram
[18:27] <syntroPi> bobrun, yes on launchpad you can view its debian/  and "makefiles"
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> bobrun, Ah, cool, I have no idea there, it seems others do, good luck. ;)
[18:28] <kostkon_> bobrun: apt-get source package_name to download its source code. without sudo
[18:28] <bobrun> ah, neat.  thanks.
[18:29] <syntroPi> ^^ just what i was about to suggest
[18:29] <syntroPi> look in the debian dir
[18:29] <Tking> wilee-nilee, i am logged in tty, actually i chaged the boot to tr
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> can i select windows in dash?
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> if there are more than one for an icon
[18:30] <Tking> text mode. when i typed start lighdm it loaded gui but mouse didnt work
[18:30] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: maybe wmctrl could help
[18:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> is that windowmaker?
[18:31] <syntroPi> Tking, really take a look at "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" if there are any EE rors or WW arnings
[18:31] <lucas2196829> Hi! This is a tipically topic I have an old pc (512 mb RAM) and I want to ask if it's a good idea remove Unity in Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> the hover bubble shows other window when i click it
[18:32] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: there are some other DEs that would perform better, yes
[18:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> i like how i dont have to move mouse a lot and thats good
[18:33] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: oh
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Use another desktop lubuntu is your best choice probably you don't remove unity at all.
[18:33] <reisio> LucidDreamZzZ: the GUI thing in Unity is called dash, isn't it?
[18:33] <zykotick9> lucas2196829: with 512MB RAM, i'd strongly suggest lxde or xfce, or go really minimal with one of the the *box WM
[18:33] <reisio> I was thinking of the sh implementation
[18:33] <reisio> ...I wish people didn't suck at naming things
[18:33] <lucas2196829> Yes, but I don't know if lxde or xfce works fine in this distribution.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, YOu can remove that whole ubuntu-desktop with a package list if you want another desktop though, there is a website with those lists if you need.
[18:33] <reisio> lucas2196829: why wouldn't it
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> resio, i think so it doesnt seem bad just would like icon for each window if possible then it would be nice
[18:35] <reisio> sorry I don't know much about Unity
[18:36] <lucas2196829> I like Unity (Iknow I'm very strange) and I don't want to lose it. I'd like to konw if I can leave my Ubuntu more light.
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, If you are running unity the others will run, you could download a straight xfce or lxde iso and check if neded
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Bump the ram to its max, not sure your processor speed is all.
[18:40] <lucas2196829> I'd like to remove any modules (like bluetooth, and others) before to remove Unity. Maybe it will go faster.
[18:40] <dylan__> Hello. When I import my own music (.mp3 files) to Jampal, not all of them go in the list. I'm not sure why this is, or if it can get fixed, but I really want to listen to all of my music and not just a few songs.
[18:41] <iceroot> what are processes inside [] in "top"? like [kthread], [kworker] and [flush-8:0]?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Your goals are good, but the methods not really in a logical line.
[18:42] <zykotick9> iceroot: i don't notice square brackets in top or htop?
[18:43] <iceroot> zykotick9: ah i am sorry, please press "c" to see the process-details/calls
[18:44] <lucas2196829> wilee-nilee, Do you think it's better change the DE first?
[18:44] <zykotick9> iceroot: i see [] now, no idea...  good luck.
[18:45] <yeik> I am trying to install a deb package, and it keeps saying unsatisfiable: libxerces-c3.1 (>= 3.1.1-1+b1)
[18:47] <reisio> yeik: and... you're expecting it to say something different one time?
[18:47] <yeik> i have libxerces installed. I am trying to figure out what it is expecting so i can install that
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Before what, and what desktop do you want? Unity is a plugin in compiz on top of gnome 3 it is the ubuntu desktop, you can't just remove or replace it with say metacity and have that desktop.
[18:47] <reisio> yeik: what version do you have installed?
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, I would always have a secondary desktop before removing another though, if  understand you here.
[18:49] <yeik> libxerces-c3.1:i386 3.1.1-1build1
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> I*
[18:49] <yeik> maybe it is the wrong version. I might need to uninstall and install the x86 version
[18:49] <bekks> yeik: Why do you think it asks for the i386 version?
[18:50] <bekks> yeik: The error message does not state that.
[18:50] <yeik> i didn't
[18:50] <yeik> that is the version that is installed
[18:51] <bekks> yeik: Which ubuntu do you have, and do you run it in 32bit or 64bit?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, On this website in the playing around left column are links to removing whole desktops, be sure you use one that is your release. This link may help you get to a better understanding. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[18:51] <yeik> Linux ********** 3.2.0-48-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:43:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:52] <dylan__> Hello. When I import my own music (.mp3 files) to Jampal, not all of them go in the list. I'm not sure why this is, or if it can get fixed, but I really want to listen to all of my music and not just a few songs.
[18:52] <lucas2196829> Well I guess that the first thing is download another DE. I had lxde with archlinux y Debian7. I'll begin here. You were very kind wilee-nilee. Thanks, I'm going to visit that site. See you soon
[18:52] <bekks> yeik: And the answer to my firsdt question? :)
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> lucas2196829, Good luck, ;)
[18:53] <yeik> bekks, what question is that?
[18:54] <bekks> yeik: Which ubuntu do you use?
[18:54] <yeik> Xubuntu
[18:54] <bekks> yeik: xubuntu is not a version number.
[18:54] <juo100> I'm trying to mount my ext4 formatted USB HD but when i do i get the following error message "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1"
[18:55] <juo100> but i just formatted it with "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 -L drive"
[18:55] <daftykins> juo100: what does dmesg say?
[18:55] <bekks> juo100: Then either the superblock is corrupted or it isnt an ext4 fs.
[18:56] <juo100> how do i format the drive for ext4?
[18:56] <juo100> 'sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 -L drive' ?
[18:56] <daftykins> i must be invisible again
[18:56] <yeik> bekks, i cant remember what version i last upgraded to. it is recent. why does the version matter?
[18:56] <juo100> sorry daftykins, whats dmesg?
[18:57] <juo100> ah 1 sec
[18:57] <juo100> ill paste it
[18:57] <daftykins> just see if it's explaining the errors
[18:57] <juo100> '[  993.972473] EXT4-fs (sda1): Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value'
[18:57] <juo100> but I'm trying to mount it with
[18:57] <bekks> yeik: Please pastebin "lsb_release -a"
[18:57] <juo100> sudo mount -t ext4 -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sda1 /media/external/
[18:57] <kostkon_> 3.2 kernel so maybe 12.04?
[18:57] <daftykins> juo100: drop the uid and gid and try again
[18:58] <juo100> daftykins: thanks :D
[18:58] <yeik> ubuntu 12.04 - precise
[18:58] <juo100> i tried to remove it before but forgot to remove the -o argument ^^
[19:01] <yeik> i removed the i386 version and installed the regular version of libxerces
[19:02] <daftykins> juo100: all working fine now is it?
[19:03] <yeik> I also downloaded the source of the package, looked at the documentation, installed the noted dependencies and the makefile didn't create the version.h so it says that version.h is missing.
[19:08] <prahlad> Just installed ubuntu 13.04, have an issue with network-manager (nm-applet crashes). Can anyone help ?
[19:08] <juo100> daftykins: yeah, my only issue now, adding it into /etc/fstab with "/dev/sdb1       /media/external ext4    defaults       0       0" didn't seam to survive the reboot
[19:09] <juo100> is there another file i can look at to debug that?
[19:09] <bekks> juo100: Do not mount things to /media manually. /media is used by the automounting facility. Use /mnt/ for manual mounting.
[19:09] <prahlad> I think when we have so many guis floating about, can't we have one for auto-mounting a disk-partition too ?
[19:09] <jordan4ibanez> Where is the xorg.conf?
[19:10] <prahlad> why do we have to edit /etc/fstab for a trivial thing like that?
[19:10] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: /etc/X11/
[19:10] <juo100> ok, I will try it out with /mnt/
[19:10] <jordan4ibanez> I don't have one in there, I am running nvidia proprietary 313
[19:10] <bekks> prahlad: Feel free to contribute and code one.
[19:10] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: it's automatic at boot time then. are you wanting to change a setting?
[19:10] <jordan4ibanez> Yes, enable coolbits
[19:11] <prahlad> bekks: I'm learning python programming with pygtk. will surely contribute to this once I master that.. :-)
[19:11] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: haha wow i don't even know if that's still alive. sure it can't be done by running nvidia-settings with a switch or something these days? also graphics card overclocking is immensely fruitless
[19:12] <jordan4ibanez> It is. And it's not. I just need to know where xorg.conf is. Or if it's generated under another name?
[19:13] <daftykins> jordan4ibanez: like i said things happen auto at boot, so a file isn't needed. you'd have to generate a basic one if you want to add something
[19:14] <juo100> Ok! All working, thanks ever so much for all the help. Even learnt something :)
[19:14] <prahlad> Running ubuntu 13.04-amd64, have an issue with network-manager (nm-applet crashes). Can anyone help ?
[19:14] <NullVoxPopuli> Is there an easy way to migrate my home folder to an HDD from an SSD? I'd also want to encrypt my home folder. :-\
[19:14] <gms_> hi all
[19:15] <gms_> I have a question about case statement in bash
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !details > prahlad
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> gms_, THe channel works with you stating the problem. ;)
[19:15] <gms_> can someone help me ??
[19:16] <bekks> gms_: How can we know?
[19:16] <gms_> nobody =
[19:16] <daftykins> gms_: ask the question
[19:16] <gms_> ?
[19:16] <yeik> gms_ try posting your question with an example in pastebin and post the link
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> !help > gms_
[19:16] <gms_> ok
[19:16] <gms_> in the case statement
[19:17] <prahlad> I have a problem with network-manager (nm-applet). I'm running ubuntu version 13.04  (amd64) on my toshiba laptop.
[19:17] <gms_> a=$(date +%k)
[19:17] <gms_> ubottu: how can I send private message
[19:17] <gms_> oh damn
[19:17] <gms_> okay,
[19:17] <bekks> gms_: Dont use enter as a punctuation sign, and write full sentences please :)
[19:17] <prahlad> when I connect my Mobile-Broadband connection, for the first time, the display name changes from "Provider XYZ.." to "(CDMA)"
[19:18] <bekks> prahlad: How is that related Ubuntu? :)
[19:18]  * wilee-nilee is so thankful for the ignore
[19:18] <gms_> a=$(date +%k)    , the case statement doesn't accept a number as a pattern
[19:18] <gms_> a=$(date +%k) echo $a  case $a in  8) echo $a  esac
[19:18] <prahlad> because it has only started since I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04
[19:18] <bekks> gms_: A shell doesnt know different data types, it interprets everything as a string.
[19:18] <prahlad> in 12.04, it was working fine...
[19:18] <gms_> hmm
[19:19] <bekks> prahlad: And how is that imposing problems? I dont even care what my mobile displays when using it as an AP :)
[19:19] <gms_> I see that, but in this case >> a=$(date +%k)  doesn't it mean that I assign a number to a ?
[19:19] <gms_> so in the pattern, it should accept the number
[19:19] <bekks> gms_: No. Since a shell only uses strings.
[19:20] <gms_> I'm sorry. It's not so clear to me. What can I do in this case ?
[19:20] <prahlad> The trouble is that when I disconnect and reconnect for the second time, network-manager crashes and the "bars-icon" on the top vanishes!!
[19:20] <bekks> gms_: Use "8") instead of 8)
[19:21] <prahlad> I have to restart the nm-applet by doing alt+f2 to bring that icon again..
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> prahlad, You running the ubuntu-shell?
[19:21] <gms_> bekks: that didn't work out
[19:22] <prahlad> yep, the unity desktop if thats what you mean..
[19:22] <gms_> #!/bin/bash  a=$(date +%k)   case $a in  "8") echo $a  esac
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> prahlad, No the shell is not unity
[19:22] <bekks> gms_: Use a pastebin please.
[19:22] <prahlad> you mean the command line that comes by doing ctl+alt+f1, etc.. ?
[19:22] <gms_> bekks: I'm a newbie, how can I use that?
[19:23] <bekks> !paste | gms_
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> the ubuntu-shell has a de reload of alt-f2-r
[19:23] <Alternate> hi
[19:23] <gms_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793477/
[19:24] <Alternate> my first day running ubuntu 13.04
[19:24] <Alternate> love it
[19:24] <bekks> gms_: You are missing ;; in the case statement
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Alternate, As a heads up this is support not chat, do you need support?
[19:25] <Alternate> yeah i need support
[19:25] <prahlad> I'm happy with the alt+f2 workaround. I just want to know if this is a well-known ubuntu bug with amd64s ? or is it just me facing this issue?
[19:25] <reisio> Alternate: what'd you use before Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Alternate, Cool, give us a description. ;)
[19:25] <gms_> bekks: I don't get it, I've changed that, still doesn't work
[19:25] <Alternate> I have been using mac osx
[19:25] <Alternate> I have an msi laptop, with a gtx 570m , how would i install the driver?
[19:25] <bekks> gms_: You've changed what?
[19:25] <reisio> prahlad: what happens, again?
[19:26] <bekks> Alternate: This is ubuntu support, not Mac OSX support.
[19:26] <prahlad> When I reconnect a mobile-broadband connection for the second time, network-manager crashes and the "bars-icon" on the top vanishes!!
[19:26] <Alternate> like I said i am using ubuntu
[19:26] <reisio> Alternate: is there not a circuit board icon at the top right?
[19:26] <prahlad> it only happens for mobile-broadbands..
[19:26] <gms_> bekks: I've added ;;
[19:27] <Alternate> well everything works perfect, I just want to install the driver so I can use vsync etc
[19:27] <bekks> gms_: To where? Do you expect us to guess it?
[19:27] <yakster> anyone here use autofs?
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> !ask > yakster
[19:28] <gms_> bekks:  I've managed!
[19:28] <gms_> bekks: thanks
[19:28] <prahlad> reisso: When I reconnect a mobile-broadband connection for the second time, network-manager crashes and the "bars-icon" on the top vanishes!!
[19:29] <reisio> Alternate: is there not a circuit board icon at the top right?
[19:29] <Alternate> No there is not
[19:29] <reisio> Alternate: could read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:29] <Alternate> Thanks
[19:29] <yakster> with the use of autofs, are there any additional requirements for automounting NAS fs shares….
[19:30] <reisio> Alternate: if you open a terminal and run sudo lspci -k | grep -i vga -A 3, what does it say is 'in use'?
[19:30] <yakster> I followed this link, http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/56-ubuntu-autofs
[19:31] <gms_> bekks: that's weird. when the time is 21:30 and the pattern is "21") it works. However, when I change the time to a one digit number, let's say 06, neither 06 nor 6 doesn't work as the case pattern ?
[19:31] <quis23> someone knows a good terminal irc client?
[19:32] <James_Epp> In 12.04.2, how do I increase the amount of workspaces?
[19:32] <bekks> quis23: irssi
[19:32] <sam113101> quis23: weechat
[19:32] <quis23> thanks guys i look it up :)
[19:33] <Easy> can anyone recommend an app to transfer android files to a ubuntu computer please.
[19:33] <yakster> can you ssh?
[19:33] <ferw2342> !nounity
[19:33] <James_Epp> Easy: I thought android devices automatically mounted? At least....they did for me.
[19:34] <xangua> Easy: airdroid
[19:34] <fyksen> Easy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid super easy
[19:34] <fyksen> James_Epp: on some do, and some don't.
[19:35] <prahlad> Easy: if you have a usb cable, you can use the "adb" commands that come with  android sdk
[19:35] <reisio> Easy: andftp
[19:35] <prahlad> adb push and adb pull commands are used to transfer a file to/from an android phone
[19:35] <Easy> no not on my computer, shotwell is crap doesn't import photo, also can't upload video
[19:35] <reisio> Easy: also if your computer has bluetooth, you can use bluetooth
[19:36] <reisio> andftp supports scp/sftp (transfer over ssh), so you just need sshd running
[19:36] <Alternate> Hey guys, when I try to install ubuntu on my hp probook 6570b the screen starts flickering and it's seperated in 2 pieces
[19:36] <Easy> didn't think about bluetooth, i'll give it a try. thanks
[19:37] <prahlad> Easy: If you are on wifi, then airdroid is the only option...
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> +1 on airdroid
[19:37] <reisio> !nomodeset
[19:37] <Easy> i 'll give airdroid a try too. thanks
[19:38] <reisio> bluetooth is the easiest _if_ it 'just works' :p
[19:38] <reisio> 'cause you just hit the share icon
[19:38] <Easy> ok thanks
[19:39] <gms_> Is it possible to assign a value to a variable inside the case statement? When I try , I get the error " Command not found"
[19:39] <prahlad> I've found that the LTS version is, in general, more stable and less buggy than the 12.10 & 13.04..
[19:40] <prahlad> things just work on the LTS..
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> prahlad  great!
[19:40] <contrapunctus> prahlad - No kidding.
[19:40] <tux30> hi i have setup a pc for a friend but when i plug a this home he have another monitor ans get error starting how can force for recognize the new monitor?
[19:40] <elisa87> Hey, why do you think I have this result? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793516/
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  why is gnome2 in that error mesage?
[19:41] <elisa87> how can " Errors were encountered while processing: dbus" be solved?
[19:42] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: how can I check that?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  start from the beginning, what are you doing?
[19:42] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: I wanted to install meld by sudo apt-get install meld
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> tux30, Can you explain that more clearly, it seems you can not get the second monitor recognized, but t is not real clear.
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> it*
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  in what ubuntu version?
[19:44] <elisa87> 3.8.0-25-generic Ubuntu 13.04 MonkeyDust
[19:44] <zztr> should i be able to boot from a live cd with no drives in my computer?
[19:45] <zztr> I can't. But something is wrong and I don't know what.
[19:45] <tux30> hi i have setup a pc for a friend but when i plug a this home he have another monitor ans get error starting how can force for recognize the new monitor?
[19:45] <]silent[> asd
[19:45] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: when I do sudp apt-get upgrade I receive: "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/cups-browsed_1.0.34-0ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb"
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  "gnome2" is repeatedly mentioned in that error message, is it a clean install?
[19:46] <reisio> !nomodeset
[19:46] <reisio> Alternate: ^
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> tux30, What does this mean "when i plug a this home"
[19:46] <elisa87> yeah I installed from scratch.what's wrong MonkeyDust
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here, i think you are mixing repos
[19:47] <tux30> the monitor flash a lot of time and computer reboot
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> tux30, what is your native language?
[19:47] <daftykins> tux30: what graphics card? have you installed drivers?
[19:48] <tux30> french
[19:48] <]silent[> hi to all
[19:48] <elisa87> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793543/ here's the update result
[19:49] <tux30> and not graphic driver
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  that's a mix of i386 and amd64 repos, maybe that's the cause of the errors
[19:49] <luca__> hi to all.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  and get rid of that dl.google.com source
[19:50] <elisa87> how can I get rid of them monkeydus
[19:50] <elisa87> how can I get rid of them monkeydust?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  system settings, software sources
[19:51] <gms_> is it possible to have to digit results in additions on bash? 01+2 = 03 for example...
[19:51] <elisa87> I mean how to remove i386 stuff?
[19:51] <gms_> two digit  sorry.
[19:51] <syntroPi> using ffmpeg to compile a mp4 from an mkv with subtitles i am having the problem that it says "Unknown encoder 'mov_text'". Version is ffmpeg version 0.8.6-6:0.8.6-1ubuntu2     is this too old somehow?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> tux30, Cool there is a ubuntu french channel if that helps.
[19:51] <checkin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2150307
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> !fr
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  just told you, system settings, software sources
[19:52] <elisa87> what should I do in system setting? MonkeyDust
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  disable the unwanted sources
[19:53] <yakster> can anyone help me out with getting autofs to work, of know if there is an alternative to it?
[19:53] <checkin> I am unable to toggle wireless on/off, mute/unmute, play/pause using Front operation panel LED keys on my Toshiba Qosmio F60. Currently I need to enable WiFi/Bluetooth from Windows for it to work. Fn+F8 toggle works as soft block/unblock only if I have already enabled WiFi under Windows. Any ideas as how this can be done? I have tried Ubuntu 13.04 as well. The only LED Touch button that works under Ubuntu is the Volume Up/Down butto
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> yakster  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[19:54] <checkin> dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659327/ dmidecode http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659339/ output when wireless disabled from within windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659346/ output when wireless enabled from within windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/5659348/
[19:55] <yakster> auto.master http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793556/
[19:56] <yakster> auto.server http://paste.ubuntu.com/5793557/
[19:56] <yakster> then obviously an auto.auth
[19:56] <sudeep> hi
[19:56] <hadifarnoud> what does this mean? Jun 23 12:54:42 spoons postfix/error:  405221C8ED: to=<fgdddcu@yahoo.co.jp>, relay=none, delay=0, delays=0/0/0/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: host mx5.mail.yahoo.co.jp[183.79.57.236] refused to talk to me: 553 Mail from 178.79.186.245 not allowed - [10])
[19:56] <hadifarnoud> I get flooded by these logs
[19:57] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: that you're not allowed to email yahoo users, at a guess :)
[19:57] <checkin> @MonkeyDust any idea??
[19:57] <sudeep> is any one installed/using  emerald theme manager ??
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> checkin  what?
[19:58] <luca__> Emerald theme manager is dead...
[19:58] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: why is that though? am I sending bulk email? because I'm not. might be a victim of spam?
[19:58] <checkin> i can't seem to enable my touch keys from within Ubuntu..
[19:58] <sudeep> luca__: why !! it was a cool theme manager right ?
[19:58] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: maybe they deny anyone without SPF config
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> luca__  i guess emerald is no longer developed or maintained
[19:58] <th0r> hadifarnoud, you may not be, but someone in that ip range is. They don't block one ip...they block a range
[19:59] <luca__> yes... emerald is cool... but is not developed...
[19:59] <luca__> anyomore
[19:59] <hadifarnoud> I get this for gmail too: BCFDA1C78D: to=<chris.chalkmountain@gmail.com>, orig_to=<chris@chalkmountain.eu>, relay=alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.26]:25, delay=1160, delays=1159/0.01/0.88/0, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (host alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.26] refused to talk to me: 421-4.7.0 [178.79.186.245] Our system has detected an unusual amount of 421-4.7.0 unsolicited mail o
[19:59] <hadifarnoud> riginating from your IP address. To protect our 421-4.7.0 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily 421-4.7.0 blocked. Please visit http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.html 421 4.7.0 to review our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines. q8si9645026icw.138 - gsmtp)
[19:59] <FloodBot1> hadifarnoud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <checkin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291783/led-touch-buttons-touchpad-toggle-not-working-in-toshiba-qosmio-f60
[20:00] <sudeep> luca__: why anymore if any person want to maintain or contribute to that project  is it possible ?
[20:01] <ifara64> fara
[20:01] <luca__> sudeep: mmmh... i don't think is possible... because unity dosen't support Emerald.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> methinks emerald was a gnome2 toy
[20:02] <sudeep> but this proves unity can http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-install-emerald-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[20:02] <Zagomah> sudeep: so install it! :)
[20:02] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: so you're not operating as an open relay, to your knowledge?
[20:03] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: no.
[20:03] <checkin> any alternatives to hal..?
[20:03] <Zagomah> sudeep: Remember... emerald replace compiz, default windows decoration...
[20:03] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: well i suggest you contact the actual mail server support for what you're running
[20:03] <ifara64> unity soporta Esmeralda = Yes
[20:04] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: I have a VPS. so I am the support sadly
[20:04] <yakster> … so yeah… I cant get autofs to work….
[20:04] <sudeep> Zagomah: so unity uses compiz to decoration right ?
[20:04] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: I installed virtualmin to use it as web server
[20:04] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: sure but you're running a mail server program right?
[20:04] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: it's very masochistic to run your own mail server tbh
[20:04] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: I do have mail server but not in use really
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> sudeep, Unity is a plugin in compiz
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sudeep  unity is a compiz plugin
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> wilee-nilee  was faster :)
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> jinx
[20:05] <sudeep> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:06] <ifara64> compiz is under unity
[20:07] <AdvoWork> Hi there, thinking of migrating my 2nd laptop to Ubuntu, only thing on there i want is itunes. It uses .mp4 files, which as far as I can see i can just copy, but what software can i use to play/manage these files, in 13.04?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  banshe
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  banshee
[20:07] <hadifarnoud> banshee is great. not so great looking though AdvoWork
[20:08] <AdvoWork> ill give it a try, is there a move visual one? I dont mind it looking pretty as such, but the wife might prefer a nicer one
[20:09] <fyksen> Does anyone know if there is an bitcoin applet indicator for Ubuntu? To track the price of bitcoin.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  amarok, maybe
[20:10] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: is there a possibility that a script is sending spam from my server? if so, how can I find it?
[20:10] <trism> fyksen: https://github.com/jj9btcproj/Bitcoin-Price-Indicator apparently
[20:10] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: are you hosting other peoples websites or something?
[20:10] <bekks> hadifarnoud: Yes, there is. Tools like ps, rkhunter, lsof, nmap can help you to find it.
[20:11] <fyksen> trism: holy c***. I have googled for fifteen minutes, couldn't find anything. TY :)
[20:11] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: yes I am.
[20:11] <kostkon> fyksen, with a little bit of googling, i found this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194598.0
[20:11] <kostkon> oh trism was first ok :P
[20:11] <hadifarnoud> bekks: can you point me in right direction? they are very general tools. what should I do exactly
[20:12] <bekks> hadifarnoud: You should use them to see whats running, what looks suspicious, etc.
[20:12] <AdvoWork> MonkeyDust, will try that too.
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !find bitcoin | fyksen
[20:13] <AdvoWork> Anyone else had any issues with 13.04? i click on ubuntu software installer and it loads, then just continually crashes on me, i have to install everything via terminal
[20:13] <fyksen> MonkeyDust: jupp, nothing in the repos for applet
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> fyksen  then i guess you're out of luck, does not exist
[20:14] <fyksen> MonkeyDust: haha, problem is that Ive been searching for applet, not indicators..
[20:16] <AdvoWork> MonkeyDust, amarok is fine, thanks for the tips
[20:18] <hadifarnoud> bekks: I couldn't find anything suspicious. might be a php script etc? how can I find them?
[20:21] <th0r> hadifarnoud, wow you worked for seven minutes and couldn't find anything?!
[20:21] <bekks> hadifarnoud: By investigating further whats actually running on your system.
[20:21] <hadifarnoud> th0r: I checked the running processes
[20:22] <yakster> does anyone have a valid "Mount on demand" process they can sugest… casue I think that autofs is broke…
[20:23] <darkangel> Hello people
[20:23] <darkangel> any 1 here?
[20:23] <daftykins> o hai
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> yakster, Mount what?
[20:23] <daftykins> nope
[20:23] <yakster> smb shares
[20:23] <JoshuaP> The BIND server isn't letting rdnc connect and start
[20:23] <JoshuaP> How do I fix this issue?
[20:24] <yakster> SMB from NAS HDD
[20:24] <darkangel> Is It Elegal To sell  Linux Products???
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> yakster, Ah, not sure here.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> darkangel  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:24] <darkangel> Wheres that???
[20:25] <th0r> yakster, why not just put it in fstab?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:25] <ofhs> can someone help me get my USB mic to work?
[20:25] <yakster> if I have it in FStab, the drive will never sleep…. killing hard drives…
[20:25] <ofhs> it's being really weird
[20:25] <yakster> or at least these GoFlex Home Hard drives
[20:25] <ofhs> i tried it in audacity and it recorded the first time, but when i tried again it wouldn't work
[20:26] <ofhs> and i can't get it to work in skype at all
[20:26] <yakster> smbclient //192.168.1.31/GoFlex\ Home\ Public -U xbmc  I can browse just fine….
[20:26] <th0r> yakster, actually, it is the spin-up and spin-down that wear on the drive, not the spinning
[20:27] <ofhs> anyone?
[20:27] <darkangel> Ubuntu-Offtobic chat room is dead
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> darkangel  you mistyped
[20:28] <zero2XIII> ofhs: go to your sound properties and select the correct device under "input"
[20:28] <k1l_> !ot | darkangel
[20:28] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it's the only device there is, but it doesn't work right
[20:28] <ofhs> zero2XIII: sometimes when i talk into it, it'll recognize it, but then when i try again it won't work
[20:29] <zero2XIII> ofhs: does it show level? in the sound settings under input level?
[20:30] <ofhs> zero2XIII: sometimes after i unplug it and plug it back in, but it's really unreliable and after i exit the sound settings and reopen it, it won't recognize it
[20:30] <ofhs> zero2XIII: for example, in audacity, i configured it to work with the mic, and i recorded once and it worked fine, but when i tried again it said it couldn't locate the mic, even though it was still configured the same way
[20:30] <Jezk> which release can I expect to have better graphical driver support, 13.04 or 12.04 LTS? More specifically, I'm talking about ATI catalyst video drivers and looking for longest battery life/least heating.
[20:31] <zero2XIII> ofhs: that might be more a mic issue I think than a real software issue. Try seeing if "dmesg" in terminal gives any clues, after pluging the mic out and back in, do it imediately
[20:32] <Zagomah_> anyone know how to install shell themes??
[20:32] <Zagomah_> this for example : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faience?content=154949
[20:32] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it works absolutely fine with any other computer though, just not with ubuntu
[20:33] <k1l_> Zagomah_: did you read what is written in your link after "installation"?
[20:34] <zero2XIII> ofhs: Oka, then something might be screwing around, plug the mic out, and then open a terminal, and plug it back in.. wait a few seconds and then run this in terminal: dmesg | tail -n25 and pastebin that so I can see please
[20:34] <Zagomah_> k1l_: yes but when i open Gnome tweak tools appears a message say the extension of the shell is disabled
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> Zagomah_, Not all of the gnome-shell exstensions will run in every gnome 3 relese.
[20:35] <ofhs> zero2XIII: http://pastebin.com/nht4ZBfT
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> release*
[20:35] <Zagomah_> wilee-nilee: How to know my Gnome version???
[20:36] <b4dave_4> hello ya all!! :)
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> Zagomah_  it's gnome3 since ubuntu 11.04 or so
[20:37] <zero2XIII> ofhs: it picks it up as a camera :?.. please run the following and put them together in a paste bin: "lsusb" and "lsmod"
[20:37] <Zagomah_> MonkeyDust: i have 13.04
[20:37] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it's a webcam/mic combo
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Zagomah_  then it's gnome3
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Zagomah_, I just look in synaptic, but there is probably a command, If you go to the extensions site and go thgrough them you can try and see what works and doesn't, there a lot of nice ones I use about 10-15 overall.
[20:38] <Zagomah_> Thx all for help <3
[20:38] <ofhs> zero2XIII: anyway, this is what that returns http://pastebin.com/fmRevJVS
[20:38] <zero2XIII> ofhs: well that changes it slightly, ubuntu has some issues with webcams, but lets see that pastebin first before I jump to conclusions
[20:39] <ofhs> zero2XIII: http://pastebin.com/fmRevJVS
[20:39] <zero2XIII> ofhs: yes I got it thanks :) going through it now, logitech what cam is it? The product number?
[20:40] <ofhs> zero2XIII: looking up the specific model, but it's a quickcam fusion
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> ofhs  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:40] <zero2XIII> MonkeyDust: ofhs: just about to paste that hahahah you beat me to it
[20:41] <ofhs> thanks, looking now
[20:41] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how i can get Orbitron for Ubuntu?
[20:42] <zero2XIII> ofhs: seems like it is not supported :/
[20:42] <Zagomah_> when i download extensions come a message say : You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information.
[20:42] <Zagomah_> on https://extensions.gnome.org/
[20:42] <ofhs> zero2XIII: it's not on the list, yeah, but why would it take input from it occasionally it it's completely incompatible?
[20:43] <jonascj> Hi all. I'm having trouble restoring my iptable rules after reboot. I'm using "post-up /sbin/iptables-restore < /path/to/rules-file" on my eth0. But I never see any rules restored when I reboot. I'm using fail2ban -could that be overriding my iptables rules? (ubuntu 12.04 server)
[20:43] <zero2XIII> ofhs: it might not be "completely" unsupported, but buggy...
[20:43] <Zagomah_> ok fixed lol
[20:44] <zero2XIII> ofhs: you can try some of the fixed recommended there and see, MAYBE something fixes your issue aswell
[20:44] <zero2XIII> ofhs: uvcvideo driver seems the most common fix..
[20:44] <ofhs> zero2XIII: if I just want to use the mic, is there any solution for that?
[20:45] <Walex> jonascj: no.
[20:46] <zero2XIII> ofhs: seeing as it is a combo, I THINK, it might use the same driver for both, basicly drivers for the camera, I might be wrong, but that is usualy the way it works. I do not see any drivers loaded for it in the output you gave me, is it working atm
[20:47] <jonascj> Walex: okay, thanks, then I'll be looking elsewhere
[20:47] <ofhs> zero2XIII: i looked at the UVC specific drivers list, and my model referred to footnotes 1 and 2 here http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#footnote-1
[20:48] <zero2XIII> ofhs: funny i was just reading that, and the link is 404
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3073
[20:52] <ofhs> zero2XIII: so would installing the driver not help my situation at all?
[20:52] <zero2XIII> ofhs: it doesn't seem like it, however, give it a go. There is not much you can loose.
[20:53] <ofhs> zero2XIII: alright, yeah, i'll give it a shot. if nothing works, do you know of any cheap linux-compatible mics?
[20:54] <zero2XIII> ofhs: but unfortunately I need to run.. The instructions on installing the drivers from source seem straight forward, you can always ask someone here on help with that. But sorry I can not assist you further on this matter.
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ofhs: anything that says it doesn't need drivers
[20:54] <ofhs> okay, thanks
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ofhs: if it doesn't need anything special for Mac OSX, it should work okay in Linux
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ofhs: Samson did quite a good one
[20:54] <zero2XIII> ofhs: hmmm not really, if your mic input does not show up, unfortunately not
[20:55] <gordonjcp> ofhs: what are you trying to do, anyway?
[20:55] <zero2XIII> ofhs: yes any class compliant mic should work...
[20:55] <hearit> my voice up today for Nelson Mandela
[20:56] <ofhs> gordonjcp: get my USB mic working with ubuntu. audacity and skype recognize when i plug it in, and so does the sound settings thing, but it's being buggy
[20:56] <gordonjcp> ofhs: what kind is it?
[20:56] <ofhs> gordonjcp: for example, when i recorded with it in audacity to test it, it recognized the input, but when i tried again it couldn't find the mic
[20:56] <hadifarnoud> ok, ps -aux and lsof -p didn't help. how can I find the script sending spam emails on my server?
[20:56] <gordonjcp> audacity is crap
[20:56] <ofhs> gordonjcp: logitech quickcam fusion
[20:57] <ofhs> gordonjcp: it doesn't have anything to do with the crappiness of audacity though, the same happened with the sound options
[20:57] <gordonjcp> ofhs: so this is the microphone on your webcam?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> ofhs: does it actually show up as a separate audio device?
[20:58] <ofhs> gordonjcp: yeah, it's a combo thing. it shows up as a microphone input every time i plug it in, but it only works like every other time i select it to record with it. it's really unreliable.
[20:59] <ofhs> gordonjcp: when i talk into it, sometimes the sound options will recognize it, but when i exit it and open it again, it doesn't recognize any input, even though it still recognizes the device
[21:01] <HelloWorld321> On @reboot, crontab ran a bash script that does a an ftp script, and the log says "Not connected" for almost everything.  Is @reboot a particularly bad time to run an ftp script, because the network drivers haven't loaded, or something?  Is there a better ti,e (like @login)?  Or should I move it to an anacron job to run after login?
[21:01] <HelloWorld321> (ti,e = time)
[21:02] <gordonjcp> ofhs: look around for a different device
[21:02] <gordonjcp> ofhs: logitech cameras are pretty flaky at the best of times
[21:03] <ofhs> ofhs: it's the only input device the sound settings recognizes. i don't think it's a problem with the mic either, because it works perfectly on any windows computer.
[21:03] <ThePendulum> For some reason, Fingerprint-gui no longer detects my laptop's fingerprint reader
[21:03] <hadifarnoud> I have received an spam abuse notice from my hosting provider. I don't know how to find compromised user and responsible script. can someone help me?
[21:03] <ThePendulum> It did earlier, albeit a different install
[21:04] <deanrock0> hi, which graphics card (amd or nvidia) should I get if I have 2 or 3 monitors?
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> deanrock0: nvidia
[21:06] <deanrock0> [Gentoo]: what about tearing on second screen? is there any solution?
[21:06] <ofhs> gordonjcp: it's the only input device the sound settings recognizes. i don't think it's a problem with the mic either, because it works perfectly on any windows computer.
[21:06] <ofhs> accidentally said that to myself the first time
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> deanrock0: no idea
[21:07] <ccclipsss> Ubuntu won't properly create boot disks. I would like to try other versions of Linux but anytime I try to create a boot disk on a flash drive or DVD, I will use Startup Disk Creator and Unetbootin and they will seem to create it, but when I reboot my computer and go through the boot options, the USB flash drive and/or DVD do not show up.
[21:07] <Zagomah_> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/669/wobbly-windows/
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Boot disc is incorrect labeling, you mean the ISO for OS installs right?
[21:08] <[Gentoo]> Zagomah_: what i always needed
[21:08] <Zagomah_> [Gentoo]: is pretty bug... lol
[21:08] <EncryptedSalsa> Just completed a LUKS/LVM install and got a few issues, on boot i get dropped to recovery shell in intramfs, i can cryptsetup mount my LUKS partition and then continue the boot just fine, i have setup /etc/crypttab however something isnt getting passed to the kernel on boot
[21:09] <EncryptedSalsa> Also i need to move grub over to a partition and not the MBR
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Have you tried these dvd/usb loads on any other computer?
[21:11] <hadifarnoud> how can I stop my mail server via terminal? my server is sending spam. I want to stop it now and deal with it
[21:11] <hadifarnoud> cant stop whole server though
[21:12] <chinny> sudo service postfix stop - if it's postfix
[21:12] <Tatanka> hey so are all of you able to see my IP etc?
[21:12] <Tatanka> sorry, noob here
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> hadifarnoud, A new install is your safest response if you want to be sure.
[21:12] <Tatanka> hoping to learn how to hide my server information etc for starters.
[21:12] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee I mean the ISO for OS installs and I have attempted it on other computers and the USB drive does not work, nor do DVDs
[21:13] <k1l_> Tatanka: is that a ubuntu support question? for general talk we have #ubuntu-offtopic for freenode issues #freenode
[21:13] <ccclipsss> I have attempted it with all of the main distros as well as a few other distros, I have tried it with 32 bit and 64 bit and with multiple kernal versions.
[21:13] <Tatanka> ohh gotcha!
[21:13] <Tatanka> thank you
[21:13] <hadifarnoud> wilee-nilee: I can't just wipe out my server now. many websites are hosted on it. how can I disable mail server for now?
[21:13] <Tatanka> will be back after with some more sophisitcated questions
[21:13] <sw> Tatanka: Yes, your hostname shows 'ip.132.170.253.255'.
[21:13] <chinny> @hadifarnoud sudo service postfix stop - if it's postfix for example. more important is the reason ist's sending spam as wilee-nilee said
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, So in every instance the dvd/usb do not show in the bios or the other boiot from menu not in the bios but reched with key prompts at powering on?
[21:13] <Tatanka> damn, alright thanks!
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[21:14] <hadifarnoud> chinny:  thanks.
[21:14] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee correct. I make sure the m5sum is the same as the one I am downloading as well. It also shows up in my home folder correctly, my computer just doesn't know it exists on startup.
[21:14] <ccclipsss> md5sum*
[21:15] <ccclipsss> I have a Dell 2000 recently purchased and previously had Windows 8.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Hm, that is strange, not in the bios, are you familiar with the other boot from menu, outside of the bios.
[21:16] <chinny> am hoping someone can help me. having issue with intermediate cert and apache ssl config. ie and chrome fine but firefox having issue. I thought config was correct and the intermediate cert i specified was being served but it seems not. firefox does have the root that issued the intermediate though.
[21:16] <ccclipsss> Yes. In the boot menu outside of BIOS I can choose Ubuntu or from EUFI file which leads to dead ends when I go through it, but my USB or DVD never show up.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | ccclipsss
[21:17] <ccclipsss> Will this help site apply to other versions I am trying to install? Or just Ubuntu?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Not sure if you have seen this link, UEFI is really important info for the channel at the get-go
[21:17] <armin> anyone a clue what that power manager icon in the panel is? obviously not gnome-power-manager, right?
[21:18] <kostkon> armin, where exactly
[21:18] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee I will try the stuff in that link. Thank you. Hopefully I won't have to come back for more help :)
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Ubuntu probably I would check with the other OS's channels or on the web I suppose, UEFI is a bit of a problem as the manufacturer have their own versions, and the OS's have different install methods in response
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Best of luck. ;)
[21:19] <armin> kostkon: the battery icon in the unity panel
[21:22] <Zagomah_> Ur OS... need itr
[21:22] <Zagomah_> Ur OS... need it
[21:22] <Zagomah_> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/635/mousetravel/
[21:23] <aguitel> how reinstall grub2 under gpt and uefi mode ?
[21:24] <daftykins> !uefi
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, I believe the bootrepair tool has repairs, however I have not used it, I use the cli in these matters, and am not UEFI schooled yet.
[21:24] <daftykins> aguitel: might be something useful there
[21:25] <aguitel> ok
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, Honestly the ubuntu forums is the best uefi support.
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> start a thread there as well
[21:25] <aguitel> ok
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, If you do run the bootrepiar bootinfo summary and post it in that thread, it is generated if you run a repair, you get the http address to it.
[21:27] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, ok
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> You can just run the summary though aguitel
[21:32] <EncryptedSalsa> Just completed a LUKS/LVM install and got a few issues, on boot i get dropped to recovery shell in intramfs, i can cryptsetup mount my LUKS partition and then continue the boot just fine, i have setup /etc/crypttab however something isnt getting passed to the kernel on boot
[21:36] <malt> hello, i installed the 12.04 ubuntu. I have not used ubuntu since 9 version. Is there any way I can move the menu bar down to bottom and also where does my installed programs go
[21:36] <chinny> Am hoping someone can help me. I have an issue with intermediate cert and apache ssl config. IE and chrome work fine but firefox is missing the intermediate cert. I thought the config was correct and apache should serve it as I have specified the intermediate cert with SSLCertificateChainFile. Running openssl s_client -connect server.tld:443 -showcerts fails but if I add -CAPath /etc/ssl/certs/ it passes. I'm running 12
[21:41] <malt> anybody know how to get menu bar to bottom instead of at top
[21:42] <OerHeks> malt maybe ubuntu-tweak got that option now, not sure
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> isnt it unity-tweak now?
[21:43] <malt> ok thanks
[21:43] <malt> everytime you install a software app now do you have to search for it in the dash home?
[21:43] <OerHeks> ah indeed, unity tweak >> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/unity-tweak-tool-available-in-ubuntu.html
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[21:44] <OerHeks> malt, on the bottom of dash, you see white icons, browse trough them
[21:45] <OerHeks> one is some sort of the old application menu
[21:45] <OerHeks> and installed lenses appear there too.
[21:48] <griwesx> malt: you can type the name into the dash and it will find it: then you can pin it to the launcher bar
[21:49] <malt> it should work for 12.04? the tweak it was showing for 13
[21:50] <folorn> could anyone help me with a small problem on increasing the size of the Cache ?? i get this error when i go to update (Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. C)
[21:51] <rypervenche> tga0: Did you ever fix your problem?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> malt: then use ubuntu-tweak
[21:52] <Slart> folorn: google has a couple of suggestions if you try googling for the error-message. this is one http://aziest.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/how-to-increase-your-apt-cache-limit/
[21:53] <Slart> folorn: here's one from askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/219523/dynamic-mmap-ran-out-of-room-when-trying-to-sudo-apt-get-anything
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> folorn: wget wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[21:55] <tannji> I am trying to check for dependencies and necessary packages for AMD vid driver before installing...  is there a good way to do this other than searching for installed in Synapse?
[21:55] <griwesx> ActionParsnip: That's very thorough, I might use that :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> griwesx: its step 5 from the synaptic fix package page, i just have it in a script as I am lazy :-)
[21:56] <griwesx> ActionParsnip: I take it then you think he doesnt need a cache size increase, and just needs to clean it out?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> tannji: sudo apt-get -f install ,will resolve deps for you
[21:56] <Derrick0400> Someone please help me im trying to get into #raspberrypi but it requires me to be registered
[21:56] <Derrick0400> how do i do that
[21:56] <Slart> !register | Derrick0400
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> griwesx: worth a try
[21:56] <folorn> thanks slart
[21:56] <daftykins> Derrick0400: join #freenode and they'll help
[21:57] <Derrick0400> msg NickServ REGISTER testing321 zahidkhawaja@icloud.com
[21:57] <Derrick0400> Lol
[21:57] <Derrick0400> so how do i register
[21:57] <Derrick0400> i tried that command
[21:57] <griwesx> Derrick0400: instructions are here: https://www.freenode.net/faq.shtml
[21:57] <Derrick0400> thank ya
[21:57] <tannji> ActionParsnip:  is that before or after I install the driver?
[21:57] <folorn> thanks acionparsnip
[21:57] <folorn> thanks guys
[21:57] <Slart> folorn: you're welcome
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> derrick0400: ask in #freenode like ubottu sugeated
[21:57] <folorn> just wasn't sure how to do it or if synaptic would
[21:58] <folorn> i tried to ask in #linux and they treated me awful
[21:58] <folorn> :(
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> tannji: after. the driver package will pull in deps anyway
[21:58] <folorn> insulting and mean literally
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> folorn: why use synaptic? software centre is in a default install....
[21:58] <Slart> folorn: they tend to frown on questions which can be solver by a quick search with your favourite search engine
[21:59] <usercheck_> is in ubuntu, txt file structure not same in other os?, eof of file structure
[21:59] <tannji> ActionParsnip:  OK, so the AMD driver announcement with its list of required stuff is kinda superfluous?
[21:59] <folorn> just upsets me is all im no linux god
[21:59] <folorn> and it was humble question is all :(
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> usercheck_: use notepad++ in windows, it handles the difference for you
[22:00] <Slart> usercheck_: afaik it's the same as in windows.. although the line endings are different
[22:00] <folorn> dunno action never had this problem before :(
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> folorn: you'll learn in time
[22:00] <Ben64> folorn: google should always be the first step though
[22:00] <folorn> oh?
[22:00] <Corey> folorn: Until that point, being polite and constructive, and disregarding those who aren't, is probably a better approach. Remember, we're all volunteers. :-)
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> tannji: there is a packaged AMD / ATI driver in the repos
[22:00] <folorn> see i use BT love my ubuntu but you people literally are the only folks who work with people seriously
[22:00] <folorn> and youhelp everyone
[22:00] <tannji> ActionParsnip: Synaptic just seems easier to use...  I can more easily see what is available or installed
[22:01] <folorn> AGREE corey
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> folorn: what is 'BT'
[22:01] <folorn> and you guys are great :)
[22:01] <Corey> BackTrack. :-p
[22:01] <webber420> how do i confirm registration
[22:01] <usercheck_> ActionParsnip, Slart thx.
[22:01] <webber420> do i just paste the confirmation command here
[22:01] <folorn> its backtrack but the whole damn distro is ubuntu literally
[22:01] <usercheck_> but i have migrate to linux
[22:01] <Corey> folorn: ##linux is often great, but there are a few folks who tend to be a bit off topic. /ignore is a better response than ranting that them, just FYI.
[22:01] <webber420> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER webber420 hpukdvhoujjx
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> folorn: backtrack isnt supported here
[22:01] <folorn> sorry for the language :( hrm stil fuming some.
[22:01] <webber420> where do i paste that
[22:01] <tannji> ActionParsnip,: yep, but wanted to try the 13.6 beta driver, supposed to have a few fixes specific to Ubuntu 13.04
[22:02] <usercheck_> althought os win is still in boot, but my primary is linux
[22:02] <k1l> lets put the offtopic into #ubuntu-offtopic and the backtrack support to their support channels
[22:02] <folorn> its the same distro literally action
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> folorn: ask in #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[22:02] <folorn> no joke
[22:02] <k1l> !backtrack | folorn
[22:02]  * folorn nods.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> folorn: i know exactly what backtrack is
[22:02] <holstein> folorn: its not, though.. and its not supported here.. though, you are welcome to run a live CD or dual boot
[22:02] <usercheck_> i ask about eof file, caused where i'm try in programming,
[22:02] <usercheck_> i see it's not same
[22:03] <Corey> folorn: Just FYI, backtrack isn't really envisioned as a general use distribution, it's a pentest platform. One that I find kinda silly, but that's a personal opinion. :-)
[22:03] <folorn> why do all my ubuntu packages work so good with it then?? not being a smart a-- just curious ?
[22:03] <Corey> folorn: Because it's Ubuntu derived.
[22:03] <Slart> usercheck_: can you explain what your problem is.. you can copy paste code in pastebin if that helps
[22:03] <Slart> !pastebin | usercheck_
[22:03] <folorn> agree corey
[22:03] <Corey> folorn: It'll work just fine up until it doesn't.
[22:03] <usercheck_> but which that i must use format in text file , win or linux?
[22:03] <k1l> enough of that backtrack talk now. lets stick to ubuntu support in here. thanks
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> folorn: none of the 'ubuntu based' distros are supported by the ubuntu community. similary ubuntu is based on debian but if you ask for ubuntu support in debain support forums you will be pointed to here
[22:03] <griwesx> usercheck_: ctrl+Z in windows, ctrl+D in liux
[22:03] <webber420> WHERE DO I POST THE CONFIRMATION CODE I GOT IN MY EMAIL
[22:04] <usercheck_> griwesx thx
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> webber420: lose the caps
[22:04] <webber420> Sorry
[22:04] <tga0> rypervenche: yes, but I'm not sure exactly what fixed it
[22:04] <webber420> but how
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | webber420
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> webber420: confirmation code for what?
[22:04] <dr_willis> usercheck_:  windows uses a cr+lf    for end of line in a text file.. linux uses just a cr   i belive
[22:04] <tga0> rypervenche: I uninstalled old kernels and did a update-initramfs -u -k all (that was failing initially because it was trying to cram too many kernels in 100M /boot)
[22:04] <webber420> to register an account on here
[22:04] <usercheck_> Slart thx
[22:04] <webber420> i got the email
[22:04] <Ben64> webber420: doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue, maybe ask #freenode?
[22:05] <holstein> webber420: you need to be careful and not share your passcode here.. or in any channel.. i would /j #freenode
[22:05] <tga0> rypervenche: and I also updated crypttab and did an update-grub
[22:05] <Slart> folorn: even if a distro is based on ubuntu it is not certain that everything is the same.. say a configuration file is moved somewhere else.. then installing a package that somehow works with this configuration file will make your os do weird things.. perhaps the ubuntu people found it to be energy draining to keep track of all the differences and decided that every distro gets to support their own stuff
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> webber420: ask in #freenode
[22:05] <usercheck_> dr_willies thx,
[22:05] <chinny> is anyone able to help with an apache question?
[22:05] <webber420> i never posted a real password here lol, i used testing321 to test it out
[22:05] <psilo_> Is there no apt-based way to completely uninstall mysql?  It seems I have to manually delete /var/lib/mysql and others.
[22:05] <tga0> rypervenche: I think it was just a matter of doing a full update-initramfs
[22:05] <holstein> !ask > chinny
[22:06] <usercheck_> but which between them we must put the format into my programming?
[22:06] <griwesx> usercheck_: are you asking about end of file or end of line?
[22:06] <usercheck_> i'm sorry my explain is not clear
[22:06] <dr_willis> usercheck_:  make the app check and use either one
[22:06] <tannji> ActionParsnip: are you aware of a good recent guide on installing AMD drivers?   I have been trying since 12.04 to get off the Juniper Pro drivers, but I kill the desktop every time.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> psilo_: i think you still have to remove the data
[22:07] <Slart> usercheck_: if your program is to be compiled on linux, do it the linux way.. if it's supposed to be compiled on windows I would use the windows way.. it's easy enough to convert it so it's not really a big problem (and most real editors handle both variants anyway)
[22:07] <usercheck_> griwesx eof and eol in text file format
[22:08] <folorn> anyways thanks everyone :)
[22:08] <psilo_> ActionParsnip: followup question then, is there any way to restore a system to more-or-less "stock" state, without reinstalling the OS?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> tannji: all i know is use the additional drivers. If its a 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx then there is a legacy driver PPA
[22:08] <usercheck_> dr_willies thx i will try to use it
[22:08] <holstein> !ati | tannji this is what i always refer to
[22:08] <psilo_> I'm working on some automated configuration managament stuff, and it's ideal if I can start with a blank slate each time I test a change
[22:08] <delac> gnome-search-tool, spaces in search path, how to format the path so that gnome-search-tool accepts it?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> psilo_you can clear your users home out and get default app settings. not sure outside of home
[22:09] <griwesx> usercheck_: i dont see when you ever need to insert EOF into a text file; EOL is LF (0x10) on Linux and CR+LF on windows. Just use notepad++ or gedit, they will automatically fix it
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> psilo_make a vm and rollback the snapshot
[22:09] <Slart> psilo_: I would go with a vm for that..
[22:09] <dr_willis> psilo_: virtualbox makes sense in that case
[22:09] <tannji> ActionParsnip: so you actually got the additional driver check box in settings to work?  using fglrx drivers?  that always kills the desktop for me and I have to resort to terminal to fix and revert
[22:09] <usercheck_> Slart, thx ,maybe it can be solve my problem. so i must use 2 format, if want in win, use win format, and if want in linux use linux format,(txt file) , is it true?
[22:10] <tannji> holstein:  thanks, looking at it now
[22:10] <griwesx> usercheck_: Your text editor will take care of it, stop obsessing over it
[22:10] <dr_willis> usercheck_: many apps support both
[22:10] <LittleAnon> Hello
[22:10] <Slart> usercheck_: depends on what we're talking about.. if you are writing source code it depends on the compiler.. I don't know if they handle both endings.. but this isn't really something you need to worry about..
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> tannji: which gpu do you have?
[22:10] <usercheck_> griwesx thx for sugestion, will to try it
[22:11] <treehau55> Hi, is there any hope for the future of linux to support the dual graphics cards? Or at least support turning one off completely so I dont always get <2 hours of battery life
[22:11] <usercheck_> dr_willis thx,
[22:11] <dr_willis> treehau55:  nvidia has made promises...
[22:11] <Slart> treehau55: there are stuff like bumblebee .. so there is hope
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> treehau55: bumblebee is getting better. imho its best avoided
[22:12] <holstein> treehau55: think of it this way.. will the vendors of those devices choose to support linux.. and i think they will
[22:12] <folorn> http://vpaste.net/J5ShZ
[22:12] <usercheck_> Slart i;m writing both,
[22:12] <tannji> ActionParsnip: 6750HD
[22:12] <folorn> forgot to post the error in my rage anyways didn't work gonna try synaptic and more googleing
[22:12] <usercheck_> slart thx
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> folorn: backtrack STILL isnt supported here
[22:13] <folorn> well maybe i was wrong about this channel
[22:13] <holstein> folorn: AFAIK, bt has support channels... also, you can try and replicate the error in ubuntu
[22:13] <folorn> however i tried that channel NO ONE EVER talks in there
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> folorn: ask in #backtrack-linux
[22:13] <folorn> did no one ever talks
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> folorn: doesnt mean you are supported here
[22:13] <holstein> folorn: have you tried ubuntu?
[22:14] <Ben64> folorn: then maybe you should use a distro with an active room?
[22:14] <treehau55> Well, I've tried every which configuration and installation guide that exists. Is there anyway to just turn off the dedicated GPU and always use the integrated?
[22:14] <dr_willis> bt  main channel is not on freenode  folorn
[22:14] <tannji> I just about bought a nVidia 660 card, but read about all kinds of tearing affects with the Kepler chips...  between that and the Mir/Wayland controversy, dont know what to do, lol
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> folorn: why not use Ubuntu and get all the Ubuntu support
[22:14] <holstein> treehau55: dis the vendor offer that option in the bios?
[22:14] <holstein> did*
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> folorn: you arent using Ubuntu so you dont get supported by its community
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> tannji: are you using Saucy pre-release?
[22:15] <holstein> treehau55: for my specific dual GPU chip, i used this *great* guide https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[22:15] <holstein> treehau55: you might be able to refer to it and see how to get one of them not to load
[22:15] <treehau55> holstein, I have a super terrible bios. I can barely set my boot order. I wish I could rid myself of that as well
[22:16] <tga0> on a 2 router network I can ping B from A, but not A from B
[22:16] <tannji> ActionParsnip: I upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04...  no Saucy
[22:16] <tga0> how would you debug this
[22:16] <holstein> tga0: i would try a networking channel.. also, look at the firewalls
[22:16] <Slart> treehau55: some motherboards/laptops have specialized stuff for choosing one or the other card.. for my asus laptop I have a small kernel module that turns of the dedicated graphics chip.. googling for your motherboard/laptop model might give you some answers
[22:16] <tga0> what's a better channel on freenode?
[22:17] <holstein> tga0: a networking channel might do you better.. this is ubuntu OS support
[22:17] <Slart> tga0: isn't there a channel called #networking ?
[22:17] <griwesx> tga0: You might it helpful to draw a network diagram and put your config into on it. They'll need to ask you for it to fix that, more than likely
[22:17] <treehau55> another constant linux problem I have: My networking works 100x better in windows, which suprises me.  I have a intel wimax 6150. I tried the guide where it told me to signal the kernel to turn off the wimax portion of the driver and it would give me better performance, but its still terrible
[22:17] <tga0> thanks, I'll try in ##networking
[22:18] <holstein> treehau55: i took my 'not very well supported' by broadcom chip out, and traded the wifi for something that works better.. i think keeping that in mind might help you find support.. linux supports what it is allowed to "out of the box" mostly
[22:19] <griwesx> when intel is "not well supported" it's time to panic :)
[22:19] <treehau55> I mean I wish I could just solder another wifi chip on my notebook but I dont think thats an option, haha
[22:19] <Waza420> why cant i join #raspberrypi it says im not registered with services
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> griwesx; usually a cheap screen or monitor etc
[22:19] <Waza420> when im CLEARLY logged in
[22:19] <holstein> Waza420: i would ask in #freenode
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> waza420: not an ubuntu issue, ask in #freenode
[22:19] <usercheck_> how check/view all opened file in ubuntu process?
[22:19] <griwesx> ActionParsnip: I meant his intel wifi, not graphics :)
[22:20] <Slart> usercheck_: lsof in a terminal
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> griwesx: ahhh
[22:20] <Slart> usercheck_: man lsof  for the man page.. you'll need it =)
[22:20] <usercheck_> Slart thx,
[22:20] <usercheck_> slart ok =)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> usercheck_: you can grep the lsof output :-)
[22:22] <d4rkn30> Is there any way i can stop having to use sudo all the time.
[22:22] <holstein> d4rkn30: for what?
[22:22] <k1l> d4rkn30: you shouldnt be using sudo all the time
[22:22] <griwesx> d4rkn30: Yes but it is highly not recommended. It's there to protect the system
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> d4rkn30: once you setup the OS you rarely use it
[22:22] <usercheck_> ActionParsnip thx,
[22:22] <jrib> d4rkn30: what is that you are doing so often using sudo?
[22:23] <Slart> d4rkn30: sudo is a good idea.. you can customize it though.. check the sudoers file and the other configuration stuff for sudo
[22:23] <griwesx> Do NOT edit sudoers file directly. there's a command to do it safely. I forget the name.
[22:24] <d4rkn30> I know, I know guys, its just every time i try and move encrypted files via the filemanager i get '' Not authorised'' Its mainly for thumar, as i use alot of encrypted drives
[22:24] <Slart> d4rkn30: yes.. what griwesx said.. dont edit it directly.. there is a command that does some safety checking before saving..
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> d4rkn30: remeber, gksudo for GUI apps
[22:24] <griwesx> d4rkn30: Thunar has a thing to open it in root mode
[22:25] <d4rkn30> griwesx, ahh i over looked that, You see i mainly do everything via Shell so typing sudo all the time tends to take up a lot of time.
[22:26] <griwesx> griwesx: what about mc?
[22:26] <griwesx> d4rkn30: oops, i meant you. do you use mc?
[22:27] <daftykins> d4rkn30: you're familiar with typing 'sudo -i' or -s to switch to root for a session?
[22:27] <holstein> d4rkn30: i use "sudo -s"
[22:27] <d4rkn30> griwesx, imo i guess, and never heard of it, is it wise to look into ?
[22:27] <Ekushey> d4rkn30: use "sudo visudo" to open the sudoers file and add the line: "your_username ALL=(ALL)  ALL"
[22:27] <griwesx> d4rkn30: it's a file manager for terminal. package name is 'mc' or midnight commander
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> ekushey: please dont advise that
[22:28] <usercheck_> if i have given by someone one .deb file but i have check it ,and it is not from ubuntu,is that safe for me?
[22:28] <Slart> usercheck_: the safe thing is to assume it isn't
[22:28] <holstein> d4rkn30: if you want to have a root session.. sudo -s or sudo -i is the way to do it. if you dont want to type sudo
[22:28] <Ekushey> ActionParsnip: what else can he do?
[22:28] <griwesx> usercheck_: open it iwth the archive manager, not package manager, then it will not install
[22:29] <daftykins> Ekushey: safe things, for one
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> ekushey: could add certain commands to not need password, not all. That will remive all security
[22:30] <usercheck_> Slart txh, maybe caused im newbie, not yet know all source code.
[22:30] <griwesx> i think that ALL=(ALL) ALL is the default for ubuntu actually, at least for the sudoers groupi
[22:30] <usercheck_> Slart thx, maybe caused im newbie, not yet know all source code.,
[22:31] <Slart> usercheck_: no worries.. noone knows everything .. only those who don't ask stay dumb =)
[22:31] <usercheck_> griwesx thx, i will try open it using archive manager
[22:32] <usercheck_> Slart thx for motivation
[22:34] <NetForHack> where i can find pricing for landscape ?
[22:34] <holstein> !landscape
[22:39] <usercheck_>  my laktop harddisk is sound(crrrrkkk...crrrrkkkk...crrrkkk), can we programming it to silent,not sound?)
[22:40] <Ekushey> usercheck_: looks like your hard disk is going to fail... take backup, fast!
[22:40] <Slart> usercheck_: there were some tools to change the hard drive access patterns.. I can't really remember what they were called.. I recall it being used to media-centers and such where hard drive noise was a big deal
[22:41] <usercheck_> Ekushey, is it not normal?
[22:41] <usercheck_> Ekushey, is it(sound) not normal?
[22:41] <Slart> usercheck_: sorry I can't help you any further
[22:42] <Ekushey> usercheck_: well, if the sound is loud, then it definitely means hardware problem... do you've warranty?
[22:42] <usercheck_> Slart, thx i will find information about drive access pattern,
[22:43] <usercheck_> Ekushey , warranty is end
[22:44] <usercheck_> Ekushey , warranty is end several year ago
[22:44] <Slart> usercheck_: I'm not sure it was called exactly that.. but it might be worth a try
[22:45] <usercheck_> Slart ok, thx .i will try some ways to do it
[22:45] <Slart> usercheck_: this might be it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_acoustic_management
[22:45] <Ekushey> usercheck_: loud noise from hard disks are a sort of a warning, i'd suggest backing up important data and take it to an experience technician for further advise/check
[22:45] <anom> I have php5.conf in etc/apache2/mods-available but not in etc/apache2/mods-enabled. Is this why no php is rendernig?
[22:45] <anom> rendering*
[22:47] <usercheck_> Slart thx
[22:48] <usercheck_> Ekushey yes, thx .
[22:49] <Ekushey> You're welcome usercheck_, good luck!
[22:50] <delac> gnome-search-tool, spaces in search path, how to format the path so that gnome-search-tool accepts it?
[22:51] <Ben64> delac: probably quotes or backslash
[22:51] <delac> Ben64: unfortunately both fail
[22:52] <delac> Ben64: also %20 doesn't seem to work
[22:52] <usercheck_> Ekushey thx, you also.
[22:54] <hadifarnoud> my server is super slow. why php-cgi has UDP connection? https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/1fd221eaae01a7e084ec
[22:55] <Archguy> Hey, can I format a 256 thick SD Card to have Lubuntu 13.04 ?
[22:55] <treehau55> 17.5watts currently being used by ubuntu. =/
[22:56] <dr_willis> 256 thick?
[22:56] <info> dr_willis: 256 Mb
[22:57] <deanrock0> it's probably too small, except for network install if they provide it
[22:57] <kostkon> 256gb
[22:57] <info> kostkon: no
[22:57] <info> Megabyte
[22:57] <kostkon> :/
[22:57] <info> deanrock0: A) how do I check they provide it ? B) How do I check if it's too small it doesn't say
[22:58] <info> B) Where would I check this ?
[22:58] <dr_willis> !minimal
[22:59] <Destep> Not sure if this is the right channel, but who wants to help a noob figure out how to connect to his Windows shares?
[23:00] <dr_willis> !samba
[23:00] <Destep> I've followed numerous guides and forum posts, all to no avail...
[23:00] <dr_willis> give details..
[23:01] <treehau55> is there no vgaswitcheroo in 12.04?
[23:01] <Destep> The closest I can get is using Naut to "Connect To", I get the password prompt, then it errors out...
[23:02] <daftykins> Destep: which Windows?
[23:03] <Destep> Then I get Failed to mount Windows share: Connection Timed Out
[23:03] <Destep> Windows 7
[23:03] <info> dr_willis: Is this the same for Lubuntu ?
[23:03] <griwesx> Destep: try the ip address not hostname, for the server
[23:03] <daftykins> Destep: is that host in a homegroup currently? how is the share configured?
[23:03] <Destep> Yes, they're in a Homegroup
[23:03] <dr_willis> lubuntu is just tge desktop you install over the base install info
[23:04] <Destep> Sooo, smb://192.168.0.18/TV?
[23:04] <daftykins> Destep: also, in network + sharing centre, is it currently told it's attached to a home, office or public network?
[23:04] <Destep> Home
[23:04] <daftykins> i've never used a homegroup when using inter-OS sharing tbh
[23:05] <griwesx> Destep: Yes, try the IP
[23:05] <Destep> I would think it wouldn't matter, since everything is part of the same Workgroup...
[23:05] <daftykins> Destep: given homegroups use encryption..
[23:06] <Destep> Hrmmm, good point...
[23:06] <Destep> Can Homegroups be disabled?
[23:06] <daftykins> Destep: yeah open the N&S centre and click on it, then select 'leave homegroup'
[23:07] <daftykins> Destep: so how have you set up your share? did you manually go to the sharing properties on a folder?
[23:08] <Destep> Working on it, one sec
[23:08] <treehau55> does acpi_call work for samsung laptops?
[23:09] <holstein> treehau55: do you have one? try it on there, if so... that would be the best way to tell for certain
[23:09] <treehau55> holstein, im just trying to disable the dedicated gpu all together
[23:09] <treehau55> and theres several options, acpi_call_gui looks to be the easiest
[23:11] <Destep> Ok, left Homegroup and double checked sharing options....rebooting real quick
[23:12] <daftykins> Destep: so was i right that you just right clicked a folder, went to advanced sharing and ticked the box to share it?
[23:14] <nightdrever> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04..... then installed properity driver that was (recommended) restarted and ubuntu wouldnt start..... ive just reinstalled ubuntu.....done updates first then in additional drivers is it safe to install Recommended?
[23:14] <treehau55> holstein, is acpi_call save
[23:14] <treehau55> holstein, is acpi_call safe* ?
[23:14] <daftykins> nightdrever: it really depends on your system and what is being recommended. we'll need to know both of those
[23:14] <nightdrever> right now im on post release updates
[23:14] <nightdrever> ok
[23:15] <nightdrever> im on amd 64 bit
[23:15] <ccclipsss_> wilee-nilee
[23:15] <nightdrever> nvidea driver
[23:15] <daftykins> nightdrever: please type on one line if you can
[23:15] <nightdrever> ok
[23:15] <ccclipsss_> wilee-nilee remember that problem i was having creating a USB flash drive boot disk?
[23:15] <holstein> treehau55: when i got my dual GPU, i ran a few live CD's and tests.. then, i found that post i shared.. then, i had a few installs that i "tested" things in.. and went with what worked best.. the other scenario for me was to purchase something with linux support, but i got a good deal on this used
[23:16] <nightdrever> what line?
[23:16] <daftykins> nightdrever: i mean press enter less ;) so what kind of computer is it?
[23:17] <nightdrever> ok amd athlon 64 bit, nvidia graphics card, 4ghz processor, 4 gb ram
[23:17] <daftykins> custom build?
[23:18] <nightdrever> yeah i think so
[23:18] <daftykins> well it's not Dell/HP/etc ?
[23:18] <nightdrever> hp
[23:18] <daftykins> yep that's a branded one then
[23:18] <daftykins> do you know which nvidia graphics card it is?
[23:18] <nightdrever> 610 i think
[23:19] <kingnick42> This a laptop?
[23:19] <JaceP> how about look up the model number on the front of your case or front/bottom of your laptop
[23:20] <nightdrever> im on desktop...just checked box nvidea geforce gt 640
[23:20] <tannji> quick question:  what do I call 13.04 when installing AMD driver manually?   ie:  12.04 is referred to as Ubuntu/precise in the terminal.  Using "Ubuntu/raring"  does not seem to work, returned "Distro version entered incorrectly"
[23:20] <daftykins> nightdrever: have you installed all the updates beforehand?
[23:21] <nightdrever> the first time when pc would start i hadnt i installed at same time
[23:21] <daftykins> tannji: it sounds like you might be installing AMD drivers in the not-so-best way
[23:21] <holstein> !13.04
[23:21] <daftykins> !ati | tannji
[23:21] <nightdrever> this time ive installed updates first
[23:21] <tannji> daftykins: I am using directions from your link....
[23:21] <treehau55> holstein, do you know how I enable vga_switcheroo?
[23:21] <daftykins> nightdrever: ok, it's worth a go. do you have another computer you can come back online from to diagnose it if a problem occurs?
[23:21] <nightdrever> nope
[23:22] <treehau55> holstein,  /debug/vga_switcheroo is not there but it is enabled in the kernel options
[23:22] <daftykins> tannji: ok just checking
[23:23] <holstein> treehau55: i didnt use that.. i used the ppa at the link i gave.. but, there are manual instructions for debian that might help you
[23:23] <treehau55> holstein, which link?
[23:23] <daftykins> tannji: does it throw an error when you try "Ubuntu/raring" ?
[23:23] <nightdrever> http://imagebin.org/262321
[23:23] <newmember_> does anyone have a 'how to' install openstack on 13.04?
[23:23] <holstein> treehau55: https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[23:23] <gavin__> hello
[23:24] <gavin__> does anyone know if there are drivers for a wireless device?
[23:24] <daftykins> nightdrever: which one did you try last time?
[23:24] <daftykins> gavin__: which wireless device? :)
[23:24] <nightdrever> i tried the one which says (recommended)
[23:24] <treehau55> holstein,  ah bumblebee wont help for my gpu, i have ati
[23:24] <holstein> treehau55: im not using bumblebee either
[23:24] <gavin__> daftykins: model number is TL-WN822N
[23:25] <gavin__> It is a TP-Link wireless device
[23:25] <holstein> treehau55: i do have nvidia, however.. but, it wont hurt to look at the manual info
[23:26] <daftykins> nightdrever: wouldn't hurt to try the one with the green spot on the left then. just run software update again just to make sure you're fully updated
[23:26] <daftykins> gavin__: which ubuntu? i take it you see no functionality at all with it connected?
[23:27] <nightdrever> the one with the green spot on the left im already using.... is that adequate?
[23:27] <gavin__> ubuntu 10.10
[23:27] <holstein> newmember_: i would try a server channel.. i would refer to http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private-cloud/openstack as well as consider the ubuntu based http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/announcing-openstack-builds
[23:27] <tannji> daftykins: as I said before, when doing: sudo sh amd-driver-installer-13-6-x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/raring"   it says Error: Distro version entered incorrectly
[23:27] <b3rz3rk3r> My swap is seemingly disabled, will it come back if it format the partition here? http://i.imgur.com/eeVhn8S.jpg or will I need to edit the fstab more?
[23:28] <gavin__> daftykins: ubuntu 10.10, incase you didn't receive the first message
[23:29] <daftykins> nightdrever: are you wanting to use anything in particular in 3D terms? like games?
[23:29] <nightdrever> yeah
[23:29] <Slart> !swap | b3rz3rk3r, tried swapon?
[23:30] <daftykins> gavin__: do you want to stick to 10.10 at all?
[23:30] <daftykins> gavin__: i found some discussion here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905813
[23:30] <nightdrever> but thing is im not sure if ill get it to work, ive tried on mint  lmde couldnt get it to work so i thought id try ubuntu..... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=26971&iTestingId=75920
[23:30] <daftykins> nightdrever: maybe just try some games and see how you get on, if that's already an installed nvidia driver it might be fine already
[23:31] <gavin__> daftykins: i can't seem to find the actual drivers for ubuntu
[23:31] <nightdrever> daftykins if you have enough spare time could you look at that page  and tell me how to install?
[23:31] <nightdrever> if you dont have time i understand
[23:31] <daftykins> nightdrever: wine support is over in ##winehq
[23:31] <nightdrever> ok how do i change to that room?
[23:31] <b3rz3rk3r> I haven't Slart, so I just issue the swapon command with sudo essentially?
[23:31] <nightdrever> and thats for ur help/time
[23:32] <daftykins>  /j #winehq
[23:32] <schultza> trying to get my horizontal scroll wheel working... 13.04
[23:32] <schultza> on virtualbox
[23:32] <Slart> b3rz3rk3r: I think so.. there might be more to it though
[23:32] <scottcs76> Ugh. Any one available to help with a resolution issue? 12.04 lts fresh install, gtx 560 ti
[23:32] <daftykins> gavin__: i'm guessing you might be tackling the problem in Windows terms? you don't really download and install drivers with Ubuntu
[23:33] <daftykins> scottcs76: please give more detail about your question
[23:33] <gavin__> daftykins: how do i actually do the installation? can you teach me the procedure?
[23:33] <treehau55> how do I boot with modeset=1?
[23:33] <holstein> !nomodeset | treehau55
[23:34] <daftykins> gavin__: are you reading post number 3 on that ubuntuforums link?
[23:34] <schultza> I have a freshly installed Ubuntu 13.04 (guest on virtualbox) on Windows 7 HP. Windows 7 has the mouse working, but it is not working in the ubuntu vbox.
[23:34] <scottcs76> Multiple monitor setup, A small dell monitor, works fine. I have a larger lcd monitor at 1024x768. It shows 1360x768 available, but that appears to be out of range for this monitor. It usually runs at 1366x768 on windows.
[23:34] <daftykins> schultza: that's more a virtualbox question than an Ubuntu one i'm afraid
[23:34] <gavin__> daftykins: the reason i am still using ubuntu 10.10 is because the computer cant update it, even with using the terminal, the computer crashes and ends up with black screen
[23:34] <schultza> how!?
[23:34] <treehau55> schultza,  search for some guides that get the mouse working, thats not a ubuntu question, thats a Vbox question
[23:35] <holstein> schultza: i would apply uprades and make sure the vbox additions is installed.. i would make sure its not something simple with the focus of the VM as well
[23:35] <treehau55> I had the same problem a while back its something to do in the mouse settings
[23:35] <schultza> the mouse wheel doesnt work, but the mouse without the wheel works
[23:35] <schultza> sorry.. forgot to say wheel in that post
[23:35] <schultza> vbox additions are installed
[23:35] <holstein> schultza: you mean, its just the mouse wheel that is not working?
[23:35] <schultza> yes
[23:35] <newmember_> daftykins: thanks, it looks like I have to go to 12.04
[23:36] <Liverpudlian_Hac> Hello!
[23:36] <daftykins> newmember_: err who are you? :D
[23:36] <Liverpudlian_Hac> me?
[23:36] <gavin__> daftykins: yes I am currently trying to do it
[23:36] <gavin__> by reading what it says
[23:36] <holstein> schultza: have you searched for other users with the issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/152742/how-to-enable-mouse-wheel-in-virtualbox
[23:37] <scottcs76> Additional drivers has nvidia accelerated (post-release updates) (version current-updates) selected.
[23:37] <daftykins> gavin__: so you've run synaptic / software center ok?
[23:37] <schultza> yes... dconf-editior doesnt show the settings im looking for... and i really dont want to hold alt + something to scroll
[23:37] <BlackDalek> Is anyone here familiar with use of mercurial? In particular, how do I download a mercurial project from http://delx.net.au/hg/webdl ?
[23:37] <gavin__> daftykins: its telling me to write the code into the terminal
[23:37] <newmember_> holstein: thanks, it looks like I have to go back to 12.04
[23:38] <daftykins> gavin__: what is?
[23:38] <gavin__> daftykins: the link you've provided me is the code in the forum that someone posted
[23:38] <daftykins> gavin__: are you actually following post 4?
[23:39] <schultza> BlackDalek: hg clone [url]
[23:39] <Liverpudlian_Hac> wow last time i have use irc client was 10 years ago!
[23:40] <Liverpudlian_Hac> obviously still popular!
[23:40] <gavin__> daftykins: yes i am following it on but what if i do it though software centre? what do I need to type in?
[23:40] <Tapper> hey everyone! I have an app called My-Weather-Indicator, I just wanted to know what the command for it was so I can have it run on startup
[23:41] <daftykins> gavin__: the choice is to *either* follow post 3, or post 4. i'd go with post 4
[23:42] <BAMbanda> how do I copy all the contents of a folder and move them into another folder via command line?
[23:43] <griwesx> BAMbanda: "man cp"
[23:44] <gavin__> daftykins: I have just found the drivers by following post 4 but I have faced an issue, the web link havent got my model no for my wireless device
[23:44] <gavin__> daftykins: do I choose any of them?
[23:44] <schultza> really!? i need a 3rd party app for natural scrolling to happen!?
[23:45] <scottcs76> So does the system not use the xorg.conf in x11 at all? I don't understand where nvidia-settings is getting it's information from, or how to change it.
[23:45] <daftykins> scottcs76: it auto configures at boot
[23:45] <BAMbanda> griwesx, it mentions -r would take the folder and all its contents, but I don't want the folder, i just want the contents inside the folder and then I'll delete the flder
[23:45] <OerHeks> !xorgconf
[23:46] <daftykins> gavin__: if it's plugged in what does "lsusb" give? does it talk about realtek for the wireless device?
[23:46] <griwesx> BAMbanda: So do myfolder/* and not myfolder
[23:46] <OerHeks> BAMbanda, use mv move instead of copy
[23:47] <gavin__> daftykins: this is what it has given me: Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3200 Dell Computer Corp. Mouse
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp. Keyboard
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:47] <gavin__> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0cf3:7015 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[23:47] <FloodBot1> gavin__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <BAMbanda> ok thanks
[23:47] <griwesx> BAMbanda: If you dont want the folder, why not use mv?
[23:47] <Liverpudlian_Hac> exit
[23:48] <daftykins> gavin__: so which bit are you doing in post 4?
[23:48] <scottcs76> All I want to do is set a proper resolution on this monitor. For whatever reason, it gives me 1360x768 as an option, but I need 1366x768. The first one is not supported by my monitor. :(
[23:48] <gavin__> daftykins: the installation part, the first part of post 4 but somehow it hasn't listed my wifi adapter
[23:49] <gavin__> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5794038/
[23:49] <daftykins> gavin__: the first part of post 4 is 'sudo apt-get install...'
[23:49] <gavin__> ok
[23:49] <dr_willis> gavin__:  atheros is wifi i think
[23:49] <daftykins> dr_willis: it's almost like he came in asking for help installing a wireless device ;)
[23:49] <michael_p> hi
[23:50] <gavin__> dr_willis: my wifi card model is: TL-WN822N and it doesn't state it on the linux drivers site that daftykins provided me
[23:50] <michael_p> is there anything that can resume download
[23:50] <michael_p> without overwriting exsisting files
[23:50] <dr_willis> gavin__:  the chipset its using is more imporntant then the brand
[23:51] <dr_willis> michael_p:   wget
[23:51] <gavin__> dr willis: I don't know which chipset i should download
[23:51] <michael_p> wget -nc www.ok.com would that work
[23:51] <dr_willis> gavin__:  your output showed atheos
[23:52] <dr_willis> !atheros
[23:52] <griwesx> gavin__: It's an aetheros, http://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN821N_v3
[23:52] <gavin__> dr_willis: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc/devices
[23:52] <gavin__> dr_willis: which one would it be?
[23:52] <dr_willis> gavin__:  i bet they are in the repos.
[23:53] <griwesx> gavin__: the driver for it is in both our  links
[23:53] <dr_willis> !find ath9k
[23:53] <daftykins> gavin__: match the codes from your pastebin, 0x7015
[23:53] <daftykins> dr_willis: he's running 10.10
[23:53] <dr_willis> good luck then.
[23:53] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:54] <Theline> Hi I am new to Ubuntu as I intalo programs tar.bz2
[23:54] <daftykins> gavin__: it's the first TP-Link entry
[23:54] <BAMbanda> I installed the latest version of firefox, but the icon on my launcher in ubuntu still launches my older version, how do I replace it completely?
[23:54] <BAMbanda> my new firefox is extracted in my /Downloads folde
[23:54] <dr_willis> BAMbanda:  installed how
[23:54] <delac> does anyone know how to use ~/.gvfs/ location with gnome-search-tool?
[23:54] <BAMbanda> dr_willis, downloaded and extracted
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, Ubuntu has the newest within days of release
[23:54] <dr_willis> launch that one in the downloads dir
[23:54] <BAMbanda> wilee-nilee, but its outdated
[23:54] <dr_willis> you dident really install it
[23:54] <thiebaude> BAMbanda, drag the new firefox icon to thelauncher
[23:56] <Destep> Ok, so after some more fenangling, I got to a point where I can get to a login screen for the windows share I'm attempting to connect to...but the passwords don't seem to work...regardless of the username I use....
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, What ubuntu release are you runnng, and are you sure you did not download a beta, I have 21 from the repos, firefox from their site s the same.
[23:56] <gavin__> it redirected me to tp-link site
[23:56] <BAMbanda> wilee-nilee, im on 13.04
[23:57] <griwesx> BAMbanda: 13.04 has firefox 21 in the repo
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> BAMbanda, what version is the one you had before and is it from the repos?
[23:57] <BAMbanda> hmm, that's weird
[23:57] <griwesx> BAMbanda: firefox updates itself now
[23:57] <daftykins> gavin__: download and install this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ath9k-htc/files/ath9k_htc-installer-Ubuntu%20Maverick%2010.10-fixed/
[23:57] <griwesx> BAMbanda: it might actually not be 21, but it will be after it autoupdates
[23:58] <BAMbanda> hmmm, interesting. OK
[23:58] <BAMbanda> makes sense to me! thanks
[23:58] <schultza> got that to pass to the guest machine, now the scroll is reversed... ugh