| xubuntu680 | hi guys. was hoping someone could point me in the right direction - have and old compaq presario 5000 running xp, was hoping to find step by step for beginner/dummy how to install ubuntu if possible. thanks for any help! | 00:05 |
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| nagev | hi, the installation guide is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html | 00:10 |
| xubuntu680 | wow, that was quick reply! :) tyvm! | 00:10 |
| haljhon | am I a bad person for never reading the installation guides? | 00:50 |
| haljhon | I just run the installers and, if all goes well, I assume I'm golden... I only look if something is jacked. | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, the type that reads the manual only when something goes wrong. When all else fails, read the manual. :D (Same here.) | 00:52 |
| haljhon | I'm such a guy. | 00:52 |
| xubuntu787 | . | 01:42 |
| xubuntu787 | Alguien que hable espa~ol? | 01:42 |
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| akdor1154 | morning all. A quick question - it looks like it's impossible to use the messaging indicator in 13.04 because gtk2 support was dropped. Is this correct? is there any replacement / ppa? I've been googling for a while to find answers but can't see a huge amount of canonical (heh heh heh) information | 03:42 |
| Unit193 | You are correct, there was a beta or so for a gtk3 version of xfce4-panel, and there's unofficial ways around it, but no stock options. | 03:43 |
| akdor1154 | I thought the panel was still gtk2 only? | 03:46 |
| akdor1154 | even going towards 4.12.. | 03:46 |
| Unit193 | Yes, why I said beta. | 03:47 |
| Unit193 | It is gtk2, but there is been work on a gtk3 version you can use if you switch it on in a compile flag. | 03:49 |
| akdor1154 | trunk only? or is it old enough to be in the raring source? | 03:50 |
| Unit193 | Don't remember. | 03:51 |
| akdor1154 | woop woop, I'll have a look around. thanks :) | 03:51 |
| * Unit193 used the other unsupported method. :P | 03:51 | |
| akdor1154 | ah right, and what would that be? | 03:51 |
| Unit193 | Holding packages, but as a general rule not recommended. :D | 03:51 |
| akdor1154 | ls | 03:51 |
| akdor1154 | ah lol, fair enough | 03:52 |
| akdor1154 | thanks | 03:52 |
| Unit193 | Sure. | 03:52 |
| akdor1154 | @Unit193, I just build the quantl gtk2 sources against raring libs, seems to work fine. Interested in amd64 debs? | 04:24 |
| akdor1154 | https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3iW4UPoBO3vV0Z3d2hYVTlzSjA/edit?usp=sharing | 04:33 |
| cmanns | Anyone use xubuntu on netbook? | 04:47 |
| baizon | cmanns: yes, me | 04:50 |
| cmanns | can I go from wubi.exe installed ubuntu 12.x to xUbuntu? Pretty sure | 04:51 |
| cmanns | I've used recent ubuntu's think I want to try the xu interface again since this things so slow and tiny screen. Love me some XfCE :3 | 04:52 |
| cmanns | oic it has an option :D I shall select xubuntu env | 04:52 |
| baizon | cmanns: well i made a live USB and installed it from there | 04:52 |
| baizon | cmanns: xubuntu or lubuntu | 04:53 |
| baizon | you can try both | 04:53 |
| cmanns | I have used xubuntu, this handles w7 starter ok so don't think I need to go even less? | 04:55 |
| cmanns5 | So far I love xubuntu just with the install. Nothings eating up that tiny arse 10.1 LED real estate | 05:19 |
| baizon | :) | 05:20 |
| ObrienDave | !install | 06:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate | 06:34 |
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| nantou | is f-spot unstable when dealing with 35k pictures from an external HDD? | 13:34 |
| nantou | is kfotoalbum better for the task? what photo browser should I use? | 13:34 |
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| [-iCe-] | Greetings, need help installing Skype. Can anyone tell me the apt-get command for it? | 13:47 |
| cfhowlett | make sure your partner repos are enabled. then sudo apt-get install or use the software center | 13:48 |
| [-iCe-] | Thank you. That can be done on Ubunto Software Center -> Software Sources right? | 13:50 |
| cfhowlett | yes | 13:51 |
| [-iCe-] | great. Thank you | 13:52 |
| subman | I'm running xubuntu 13.04 on a netbook and find it a horrible experience. Just booting it up, running a terminal, htop shows it is using 370 MB of RAM! Simply starting Firefox and watching a youtube video will lock the machine up some times. Only way out is to hard restart the machine. This is meant for low resource machines? | 14:51 |
| cfhowlett | subman, how much ram do you have? | 14:52 |
| subman | cfhowlett, 1 GB | 14:52 |
| umit | selamunaleykum everybody | 14:52 |
| umit | my web videos play fast | 14:53 |
| cfhowlett | subman, a HD youtube video stream? yeah, 1 gig is quite minimal ... | 14:53 |
| umit | what can i do to solve this problem | 14:53 |
| umit | have anybody a idea? | 14:54 |
| subman | So xubuntu is not for netbooks anymore? It has grown to that extent of bla | 14:55 |
| subman | bloat? | 14:55 |
| baizon | subman: well um using it on a netbook | 14:56 |
| cfhowlett | subman, try playing a non-HD video. | 14:56 |
| flux242 | subman: do you use a 32bit or 64bit distro? | 14:57 |
| w30 | I have it on a Atom 4 gig ssd HP-Mini; works better than XP, which isn't saying uch. | 15:00 |
| w30 | uch/much | 15:00 |
| flux242 | nothing works better than xp | 15:01 |
| w30 | usb-stick installed | 15:01 |
| w30 | with XP on it there was no room left for word install. | 15:02 |
| w30 | 512 ram is the weak point of the device though | 15:03 |
| w30 | Lubuntu works better but didn't have as many bells and whistles | 15:05 |
| flux242 | minimal xubuntu install without (as an option without network-manager) should do the trick | 15:06 |
| pcuser | Hello | 15:50 |
| pcuser | Is there any way i can find out the configuration of my mouse. I'm trying to find out how many buttons my PC thinks my mouse has | 15:51 |
| pcuser | Im running Xubuntu 13.04 | 15:52 |
| nintet | hi | 15:53 |
| nintet | i installed xubuntu 12.04 LTS for AMD | 15:53 |
| torax | pcuser: you can check it with xev | 15:53 |
| nintet | i can make a new disk with Gparted, but i dont have permissions to write to it | 15:54 |
| torax | pcuser: run xev and click the buttons, it shows if your os understands it | 15:54 |
| nintet | it auto mounts as /media/sda3 but i cant even make a new folder | 15:54 |
| torax | nintet: you can check the rights from terminal "ls -l /media" | 15:55 |
| pcuser | torax: That's really cool... | 15:55 |
| torax | nintet: and you can change it with chmown, for example chown username:usergroup /media/sda3 | 15:56 |
| pcuser | torax: I have a logitech mouse with a load of extra buttons on it, i am having trouble assigning those buttons to do things, but more importantly, the middle click button (triggered by pressing down on the scroll wheel) has stopped working a few days after a fresh install of 13.04 | 15:56 |
| nintet | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792893/ | 15:56 |
| nintet | yeah but now my SD card doesnt show up | 15:57 |
| nintet | something is wrong | 15:57 |
| pcuser | I know Logitech have no official support for linux, so i'm not getting my hopes up on assigning those extra buttons, but the middle click button worked fine for a few days after installing, | 15:58 |
| nintet | i tried to get help in #ubuntu but all the tutorials they were showing me had all this extra stuff that i obviously didnt need | 15:58 |
| torax | nintet: if you are only user on that computer you can safely do "sudo chown username:username /media/sda3" | 15:58 |
| torax | pcuser: hard to say why middle button is not working anymore :/ | 15:58 |
| pcuser | Well in Xev every single button, including the extra buttons showed a response, i assume this means my PC is getting some kind of input from those buttons? | 15:59 |
| pcuser | But the middle click button shows no response at all, it's like i didnt even press the button | 15:59 |
| pcuser | but the middle click button on the mouse works fine in windows 7, so i know the hardware can't be faulty | 15:59 |
| nintet | now how do i get my SD card to show up again? | 16:00 |
| nintet | it just dropped out | 16:00 |
| nintet | thanks torax, that works | 16:00 |
| nintet | nevermind | 16:01 |
| torax | lsblk command shows all the mounted and unmounted devices, see if it shows up | 16:01 |
| nintet | ok thanks | 16:01 |
| Psi-Jack | I'm trying to find an X tool that can specifically save the window position of an application, and always make a specific window always put back in the same place.. Mostly for Skype's main window that ALWAYS jumps up 10px and left 10px from the bottom-right corner I always put it to. | 16:34 |
| Psi-Jack | Anyone have any thoughts or ideas on this? hehe | 16:34 |
| Psi-Jack | Excluding: Don't use Skype, because that's just not helpful. :p | 16:34 |
| nikolam | Psi-Jack, using different window manager? choose one that can do it as you please or change code to act as you like, possibly user-friendly and not hard-coded? | 16:38 |
| elfy | I use devilspie and gdevilspie to do that | 16:38 |
| nikolam | oh great | 16:39 |
| Psi-Jack | Devilspie! That's one I think I might've used for this before. I just couldn't remember. | 16:39 |
| elfy | I've been using it for ages - you can write the configs manually, but I use gdevilspie for a gui - though there is a bug - you might need to fiddle a bit | 16:43 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdevilspie/+bug/1161594 | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1161594 in gdevilspie (Ubuntu) "Gdevilspie fails to start with no attribute 'xdg_config_home'" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:45 |
| Sysi | there's also wmctrl but I don't know if there's gui config for it or what it really does | 16:45 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm | 17:05 |
| Psi-Jack | elfy: Yeah, just hit that bug right off. LOL | 17:05 |
| elfy | yep - thought so - gksudo mousepad /usr/bin/gdevilspie | 17:11 |
| elfy | go to view set it to show line numbers - go to line 374 put an # at the beginning - save the file and it should work ok | 17:12 |
| elfy | Psi-Jack: ^^ | 17:12 |
| Psi-Jack | yeah. I fixed it manually from the patch provided on that bug report, and it works. | 17:12 |
| elfy | good enough | 17:12 |
| Psi-Jack | elfy: I did better, I changed it to use xdg.BaseDirectory in the many places it needed. | 17:13 |
| elfy | I never mucked about with the patch - never managed to work out what to do with them :) | 17:13 |
| elfy | anyway - it's working :) | 17:13 |
| Psi-Jack | hehe | 17:14 |
| Psi-Jack | Well, the patch fixes functionality, while the comment line removes functionality. | 17:14 |
| elfy | probably - but I use it so rarely now it matters not - and the bug will likely stay like that till it's marked EOL | 17:15 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm | 17:17 |
| Psi-Jack | Wierd... I apply geometry rule to the Skype Window, and it's.. Off.. | 17:18 |
| Psi-Jack | It's like it's not even talking to X11 properly, hence why the window-manager can't even get it right. heh | 17:19 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm, I think I know what it kinda is.. gDevilsPie isn't taking into consideration the XFCE window dectorations. | 17:26 |
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| Psi-Jack | elfy: Thanks, BTW.. This was what I was looking for. I decided how I wanted to fix this issue, and just basically de-decorate pidgin and skype's windows, so it's a cleaner look too. And less wasted space. :) | 17:37 |
| elfy | welcome | 17:38 |
| Psi-Jack | Now all I have to do is figure out how to for my display-manager so that my right monitor is on the right, and left monitor is on the left. LOL | 17:39 |
| Psi-Jack | The login window appears on the right monitor, but to get the mouse there from the left monitor, I have to go left to get to the right monitor. :) | 17:39 |
| elfy | well I use arandr | 17:39 |
| Psi-Jack | XFCE 4.12 fixes this after I login. | 17:39 |
| elfy | login is left here - mouse is there | 17:40 |
| elfy | not using 4.12 till it shows up | 17:40 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah, I installed the PPA. The only thing there in the xubuntu-dev PPA is xfce4-settings, which has the updated display settings applet. | 17:41 |
| elfy | k | 17:42 |
| knome | elfy, btw, we should get that into S. | 17:43 |
| knome | elfy, but i'm afraid it depends too much on 4.12. | 17:43 |
| elfy | yea | 17:44 |
| elfy | and no movement re 4.12 that I've seen | 17:45 |
| Psi-Jack | There we go. Simple, effective, fixed. :) | 17:50 |
| Psi-Jack | Now, all that's left for base tuning, is turning /off/ the bootsplash, because when using nVidia propriatery drivers, it fails to look good. | 17:51 |
| Psi-Jack | Now that's... Livable. :D | 17:56 |
| elfy | never see the bootsplash - waiting for kettle usually ... | 17:59 |
| Psi-Jack | Well, my bootup time is like 30 seconds from boot to fully logged in. :) | 17:59 |
| elfy | no idea - I'm usualy making tea ;) | 18:00 |
| Psi-Jack | haha | 18:00 |
| Psi-Jack | Holy moly.. Just logged into the company VPN for the first time since doing all this, and wow... like 40 routes just added once connected. heh | 18:01 |
| Psi-Jack | Cwazy. :) | 18:02 |
| Psi-Jack | But.. At least OpenConnect actually DOES work. | 18:03 |
| Psi-Jack | The last company I worked for, we either had to use the buggy and limited vpnc, or SonicWall's NetExtender bullcrap which both options totally sucked. | 18:03 |
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| KYLEtheBAKER | if i remove an app that came installed with xubuntu, say catfish file search or one of the games, will they be reinstalled after a dist-upgrade? | 19:50 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | or will it keep them uninstalled unless i manually reinstall from apt | 19:51 |
| TheSheep | yes | 19:51 |
| TheSheep | they will be reinstalled | 19:51 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | is there a way to say no, i do not want this package no matter what? | 19:51 |
| TheSheep | actually, I think it won't be reinstalled if you do dist-upgrade manually | 19:52 |
| TheSheep | it will if you use the gui upgrader | 19:52 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | hm | 19:54 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | i always thought the gui upgrader was just a gui for apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:54 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | i can't decide if its worth it to trim my xubuntu install way down or if i should just grab a lighter distro | 19:58 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | i wan't to try out a tiling wm too, not sure how id feel about running xubuntu with half the packages missing and a different wm | 19:59 |
| KYLEtheBAKER | i just don't want set up all my stuff again | 19:59 |
| nantou | do you knpow of any photo organizer that shows pictures according to thier whole path and not just the filename? | 20:39 |
| nantou | im now testing darktable | 20:39 |
| bekks | nantou: I am using digikam. | 20:42 |
| nantou | bekks, repo>? | 20:42 |
| bekks | "sudo apt-get install didgikam" | 20:42 |
| bekks | "sudo apt-get install digikam" - thats correct now. | 20:43 |
| nantou | bekks, where in my menu is digikam installed? i dont see it under graphics | 20:53 |
| bekks | nantou: I dont know anything about your menus. Just run digikam :) | 20:55 |
| Sysi | Alt F2 or Winkey R should find it if you don't | 20:56 |
| contrapunctus | Sysi - Hi, welcome to Linux, and it's 'Super', not 'Winkey'. | 20:59 |
| contrapunctus | ...trolololo. | 21:00 |
| Sysi | it's also Super on windows but most people recognize it by the label on most keyboards | 21:01 |
| nantou | odd, ill have to searhc for the directory | 21:04 |
| ignore_me | Is there a xubuntu offically supported method for setting up network shares? PC to PC? Gigolo only seems to connect to but not setup shares. Is SAMBA my only option? | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | if you mean Microsoft Windows Network Shares, then yes | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | there are also other things, like nfs exports and sshfs and such | 21:19 |
| ignore_me | TheSheep: Linux to Linux. I have another xubuntu box and Ubuntu 12.04 box that I want to connect/share. | 21:19 |
| torax | I'd use nfs linux to linux | 21:20 |
| TheSheep | torax: I wouldn't | 21:20 |
| ignore_me | TheSheep: Hmm. Never used ssh. | 21:20 |
| torax | TheSheep: why? | 21:20 |
| TheSheep | ignore_me: it's the least troublesome one, i guess, because doesn't need any additional setup | 21:21 |
| TheSheep | torax: linux's implementation of nfs is still a little bit... lacking | 21:21 |
| ignore_me | Used nfs over a decade ago with my mandrake boxes, worked well then. Been using Ubuntu last few years. It's setup for sharing was fine, windows-like. | 21:21 |
| TheSheep | torax: if it was solaris, then sure | 21:21 |
| TheSheep | ignore_me: well, you can install and use whatever worked for ubuntu | 21:22 |
| TheSheep | ignore_me: but it it was widnows shares, then it was probably just some gui for easier configuration of samba | 21:22 |
| ignore_me | I like xubuntu; much lighter than it's parent. Sharing is the one issue I find it's missing as an expected feature. | 21:23 |
| TheSheep | ignore_me: well, just use gigolo with ssh, it should just work | 21:24 |
| ignore_me | I didn't really, "install" anything for Ubuntu. It was a fairly automatic setup, whatever it installed/configured when you right clikc to share for the first time. | 21:24 |
| ignore_me | OK - I'll do some research on using ssh. Don't know why nfs has sort of gone away. It was simple enough, linux to linux. | 21:25 |
| TheSheep | nfs gets wonky with poor connection or when the other computer crashes | 21:27 |
| TheSheep | at least on linux | 21:27 |
| ignore_me | TheSheep: Shouldn't be an issue on a home network. Is it still an option? | 21:48 |
| haljhon | I personally have come to prefer sshfs for sharing... because it doesn't require anything on the remote box. | 21:48 |
| haljhon | it is, however, a user-space driver | 21:49 |
| torax | how do i do remounting sshfs when laptop wakes up from suspend | 22:00 |
| ignore_me | torax: If you used gigolo, wouldn't it just reconnect using your bookmark (already has your credentials)? | 22:10 |
| torax | ignore_me: I dont use gigolo | 22:11 |
| torax | just wondering, not really xubuntu related | 22:11 |
| ignore_me | torax: Ah. I'm trying to stay within the ecosystem just to see how much I can get done with the standard tools provided. Doing some quick reading on ssh client/server. Seems straightforward enough. Can't believe we're still discussing this 20 years post Win 3.11 (windows for workgroups). | 22:17 |
| torax | :) | 22:21 |
| eylais | Just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04. kernel is still 2.6.32-46. Expected 3.x.x. Any ideas? | 22:21 |
| holstein | eylais: i would say, you didnt upgrade | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | What's lsb_release -a say? | 22:22 |
| eylais | Used the upgrade pick in updates | 22:22 |
| holstein | eylais: do you need assistance with Unit193 's suggestion? | 22:23 |
| eylais | Updates no longer show new kernal available | 22:23 |
| eylais | Did not see Unit193's suggestion | 22:23 |
| holstein | eylais: and what does "lsb_release -a" report when you run that command in the terminal and press the enter key? | 22:23 |
| eylais | Oops - sorry, I did | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | I think you used update-notifier to install the new kernel for 10.04. | 22:23 |
| eylais | Unit193 - I think you are correct | 22:24 |
| eylais | But it stated that the vresion is 12.04 | 22:24 |
| holstein | it? | 22:24 |
| eylais | update-notifier | 22:24 |
| holstein | eylais: the terminal caommand? | 22:24 |
| holstein | command* | 22:24 |
| eylais | lsb_release output: LSB Version:core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch | 22:25 |
| holstein | eylais: open the terminal, and enter lsb_release -a ..see what version you have now.. then, we can go from there if you have 10.04 and want 12.04 | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | Welp. | 22:25 |
| eylais | Sorry - left off the swithc: new output: LSB Version:core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch | 22:26 |
| eylais | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 22:26 |
| eylais | Description:Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS | 22:26 |
| eylais | Release:12.04 | 22:26 |
| eylais | Codename:precise | 22:26 |
| holstein | eylais: i would run this in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update" ..see that it reports no errors.. then run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | Make sure linux-image-generic is installed, then. | 22:27 |
| holstein | i just do fresh installs.. i find it takes less time, and i know what i have | 22:27 |
| eylais | Fresh installs always fail on my computer for 12.04; 10.04 always installs OK (xubuntu and mint) | 22:28 |
| holstein | eylais: then, the upgrade will fail for the same reason | 22:28 |
| eylais | No reason given for failure - just a black screen | 22:29 |
| holstein | eylais: typically, before i do *anything*... upgrade, or fresh install, i get a live CD and see that i can get to the desktop | 22:29 |
| holstein | !nomodeset | eylais | 22:29 |
| ubottu | eylais: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 22:29 |
| eylais | Did that - the live CD works. | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | eylais: Did you run the two update commands, and check if the kernel metapackage is installed? | 22:29 |
| eylais | Doing the second now ... | 22:29 |
| holstein | if the live CD works, the you should get an install that works.. another scenario that might produce the behavior you are sharing is, bad hardware | 22:30 |
| eylais | kernel metapackage? How do I check | 22:30 |
| holstein | eylais: the package manager of your choice | 22:30 |
| eylais | synaptic ... | 22:31 |
| holstein | OR, just use the linux-image-generic name that Unit193 gave | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -l | grep linux-image | 22:31 |
| eylais | dpkg -l | grep linux-image output: | 22:32 |
| eylais | ii linux-image-2.6.32-45-generic-pae 2.6.32-45.104 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.32 on x86 | 22:32 |
| eylais | ii linux-image-2.6.32-46-generic-pae 2.6.32-46.108 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.32 on x86 | 22:32 |
| holstein | eylais: any errors from "sudo apt-get update" ? | 22:33 |
| eylais | synaptic shows linux-generic-headers versions 3.2.0.48.58 | 22:33 |
| eylais | No erros | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, you don't have the metapackage, thus you don't have the kernels. | 22:33 |
| eylais | Mark linux-generic for update? | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | That'd do. | 22:35 |
| eylais | Someone mentioned "nomodeset" (or something like that). What would that do & where to set it? | 22:36 |
| holstein | !nomodeset | eylais | 22:36 |
| ubottu | eylais: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 22:36 |
| eylais | Wait - I see a web link | 22:36 |
| holstein | i test it from live CD's.. but, if the live CD boots, then the install should boot | 22:36 |
| holstein | i usually dont do any upgrades to packages during install, so i get the exact system that booted live | 22:36 |
| holstein | then, if i do an upgrade, i have a better idea of what could have happened.. and i have the older kernel to test | 22:37 |
| eylais | Test nomodeset from a live cd? If I use the live cd thing are fine, if I install they fail | 22:37 |
| holstein | eylais: that is why i went on to type what i typed, which i can elaborate further about, if it doesnt communicate what im am trying to share with you | 22:37 |
| eylais | I "backed up" my old / using dd - I use the live cd to put it back after a failed install | 22:37 |
| holstein | if the live CD boots.. then, i know that kernel supports my hardware.. i dont need nomodeset | 22:38 |
| eylais | Again - for me - the live cd works, the install fails... | 22:38 |
| holstein | eylais: i understand that.. and im saying, you dont need | 22:38 |
| holstein | nomodeset | 22:38 |
| eylais | I then use the live CD to do dd if=savedroot of=/dev/sda2 | 22:39 |
| holstein | eylais: but, you still have an issue, that you are exlaining, that makes *no* sense.. | 22:39 |
| eylais | That is why I came to this forum: it makes no sense | 22:39 |
| holstein | eylais: if the live CD works.. the install should work.. and, if you are trying to "sneak" into 12.04 from 10.04, i would expect similar issues | 22:39 |
| holstein | so.. that gets me back to my point above.. | 22:39 |
| eylais | I tried to install 12.04 (xubuntu and mint) from downloaded ISO files burned to DVD. Failed | 22:40 |
| holstein | whats the difference in the live CD and the install? plenty, if you take upgrades during the install.. i *do* *not* do that... so i get the same kernel.. as i was saying above | 22:40 |
| eylais | I do not take any upgrades during install - just install the supplied system | 22:41 |
| holstein | eylais: did you do upgrades while installing? did you test the md5 sums? did you test your memory? hard drive? | 22:41 |
| eylais | Yes, yes, yes | 22:41 |
| holstein | eylais: then, we are missing something.. and it is important to you | 22:42 |
| eylais | FYI - I was a sys admin many years ago who built UNIX from the source and installed on universtiy systems.... | 22:42 |
| eylais | Not fully up to linux since I retired a few years ago... | 22:42 |
| holstein | i dont know what to say, other than, im booting and using 12.04 | 22:42 |
| holstein | im not saying you are doing something incorrectly.. just that something is missing there.. anyways.. are you rebooted into the proper kernel? | 22:43 |
| eylais | "Proper"? As I inidcated, I'm on 2.6 expecting 3.x | 22:43 |
| holstein | eylais: correct.. im asking if you have applied the "fix" that Unit193 has suggested, and installed the 3.x kernel and rebooted? | 22:44 |
| eylais | The "fix" being to mark/install th e3.x linux-generic? | 22:44 |
| holstein | as Unit193 states "that'd do" | 22:45 |
| Unit193 | I had linux-{image,kernel}-image drop out on my upgrade to Raring, installing both fixed it. (linux-generic is a metapackage for those two metapackages.) | 22:45 |
| eylais | Could not do that whil in chat as system will reboot. I'll do that and get back later eitehr way. Thanks for the help | 22:45 |
| Unit193 | Sure! | 22:46 |
| eylais | linux-generic update completed ... rebooting | 22:50 |
| eylais | Rebooted. Go figure: uname -a output is now Linux arthur 3.2.0-48-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:45:16 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux | 22:55 |
| eylais | Unit193 and holstein - thank you very much. This was not the "right way" to get there, but it got there | 22:55 |
| Unit193 | Heh, congrats. If you've upgraded and stuff isn't broken, I call it a win. | 22:56 |
| eylais | It is a win. Too bad there is no explanation of what is going on when upgrading or installing | 22:57 |
| eylais | My guess is some oddball harware config.... | 22:57 |
| ignore_me | torax: TheSheep Installed openssh on all the boxes. Awesomeness. No windows boxes to worry about. | 23:28 |
| torax | ignore_me: sounds good :) and I found answer to my remount sshfs problem =) | 23:30 |
| ignore_me | torax: w | 23:30 |
| ignore_me | torax: What are you using? Two of my systems are laptops. | 23:31 |
| torax | I found solution for arch systemd did the magic there | 23:43 |
| torax | ...for arch, systemd... | 23:43 |
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