[04:36] <theblazehen> Hi all
[05:49] <Squirm> morning
[05:49] <theblazehen> Hi
[06:00] <Kilos> morning all
[06:01] <theblazehen> Hi kilos
[06:01] <Kilos> hows theblazehen today
[06:01] <Kilos> im frozen already
[06:02] <theblazehen> I'm good and you
[06:02] <Kilos> goo ty
[06:02] <Kilos> good as well
[06:03] <Squirm> hello Kilos 
[06:03] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:07] <Kilos> Maaz, tell HecticZA on freenode sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-addons
[06:07] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell HecticZA on freenode
[06:10]  * Kilos has to clean pc sometime today. cpu heatsinc fins covered with dust
[06:11] <theblazehen> Kilos you should see my old one 
[06:11] <Kilos> eish
[06:11] <Kilos> amazing how they collect dust
[06:11] <theblazehen> 14 years without  a clean... 
[06:12] <Kilos> whew
[06:12] <theblazehen> Yea
[06:12] <Kilos> here it has to be done monthly. lotsa dust out in the open
[06:13] <Kilos> you can use you old one as a server
[06:13] <theblazehen> I do
[06:13] <theblazehen> Did
[06:13] <Kilos> ah
[06:14] <Kilos> the fly uses an old P2 for his server
[06:14] <theblazehen> Need more ethernet
[06:14] <theblazehen> Ok,  600mhz celeron here
[06:14] <Kilos> p2 slower than that
[06:15] <theblazehen> Ok
[06:19] <theblazehen> Hi jotrago
[06:42] <magespawn> good morning
[06:43] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[06:43] <Kilos> tonberryE352, 
[06:43] <tonberryE352> hi
[06:44] <magespawn> happy birthday Kilos 
[06:44] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[06:46]  * magespawn is playing hunt the driver for a zte mf190 modem on vista today
[06:47] <Kilos> eek
[06:47] <theblazehen> Hunt the driver? 
[06:47] <Kilos> it should install when plugged in
[06:48] <theblazehen> Nvm
[06:48] <magespawn> it should, but does not
[06:48] <Kilos> its most likely locked to some other isp
[06:49] <Kilos> plug it into a ubuntu machine and use modem-manager-gui to see
[06:50] <magespawn> seems to work fine there and on my win7 machine
[06:50] <Kilos> oh my
[06:50] <Kilos> try differnt usb sockets
[06:51] <Vince-0> haai owens
[06:52] <magespawn> the funny thing is the connection manager on the modem installs fine, and you explore the modem but it does not install drivers
[06:52] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[06:52] <magespawn> hey Vince-0
[06:52] <Kilos> maybe some other one is already installed
[06:53] <Kilos> check whats installed already and remove it
[06:54] <magespawn> good idea
[06:54] <superfly> guten morgen
[06:55] <Kilos> morning superfly ty for wishes
[06:58] <magespawn> good morning superfly 
[06:58] <superfly> hello magespawn
[06:58] <magespawn> did you get the mail i sent you?
[06:59] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA 
[06:59] <HawkiesZA> ola
[06:59] <Kilos> i go do sheep
[06:59] <magespawn> o/ HawkiesZA
[07:00] <HawkiesZA> \o magespawn 
[07:02] <HawkiesZA> Meeting tonight, right?
[07:02] <magespawn> yup
[07:05] <superfly> magespawn: I did, thanks. Haven't had a chance to do anything with it though
[07:06] <magespawn> no worries, was just an idea
[08:12] <charl> good morning
[08:12] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:12]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:12] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:16] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:38] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:38] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[08:39] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[08:41] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:41] <charl> how's it going
[08:42] <Kilos> cold but good ty and you
[08:42] <charl> good
[08:42] <charl> hot :) had a heat wave last week
[08:42] <charl> 30+ degrees
[08:42] <charl> even in the early morning hours did not drop below 20
[08:42] <Kilos> lekker
[08:43] <charl> not so sure, i don't really like the heat
[08:43] <charl> and it's humid
[08:43] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:48]  * Squirm looks around
[08:48] <charl> hi Squirm 
[08:49] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:49] <charl> how's it going
[08:49] <Squirm> yeah it's going
[09:30] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[09:32] <Vince-0> Kilos, I am going to be on my mobile for tonight's meet
[09:33] <Kilos> thats fine Vince-0 if it cant do everything im sure monkey or nuvo will help
[09:43] <Vince-0> ya my mobile client is pretty decent, will see how it goes
[09:50] <Kilos> sigh i forgot how i got the tweet place working
[09:51] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[09:53] <Kilos> ah birdie methinks
[09:55] <Kilos> aw only does one account at a time
[10:06] <magespawn> that was it Kilos
[10:07] <Kilos> the ubuntuza site need meeting news
[10:07] <magespawn> changed from pidgin because of Twitter stopping the version 1 api
[10:08] <Kilos> ya
[10:08] <Kilos> birdie is the only thing i got working apart from actually going online to twitter
[10:08] <Kilos> but i put my info in it not the ubuntuza one
[10:09] <Kilos> only client that still works to twitter is birdie i think
[10:09] <Kilos> stupid twits
[10:10] <Kilos> why block clients getting in
[10:15] <Kilos> thier loss i spose
[10:15] <Kilos> their\
[10:22] <Kilos> superfly, quinces pawpaws kumquats and guavas
[10:24] <magespawn> lots of work maintaining different versions of the api, not all the versions compatible
[10:25] <magespawn> Kilos I found the solution to the modem here http://is.gd/Mkd1kw
[10:30] <superfly> Kilos: good job
[10:34] <Kilos> so easy hey magespawn 
[10:34] <magespawn> but a very strange solution
[10:35] <Kilos> yeah
[10:36] <Kilos> sucks does funny things
[10:41] <magespawn> superfly i cannot see where to edit the ubuntu-za page so that the meetings time is correct
[10:41] <magespawn> any help?
[10:44] <superfly> magespawn: down the side?
[10:45] <magespawn> yup that is the one
[11:46] <superfly> magespawn: that's in Google Calendar somewhere
[12:06] <magespawn> ahh okay will see if i can find something ty superfly
[12:07] <superfly> magespawn: let me see
[12:07] <superfly> what time is the meeting tonight?
[12:08] <magespawn> 19:30
[12:09] <superfly> meh. I don't have write access.
[12:12] <Kilos> wbb pc cleaning time
[12:12] <Kilos> hold thumbs
[12:14] <magespawn> superfly maybe inetpro?
[12:15] <superfly> maybe
[12:33] <magespawn> i was not aware that joomla and wordpress are programming languages ? http://itjobs.mybroadband.co.za/jobs/webmultimedia-designer-2/
[12:39] <Kilos> oh well lets see what stops working
[12:40] <magespawn> wb Kilos
[12:45] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[12:45] <magespawn> what have you changed?
[12:46] <Kilos> just blew it clean and added the outside cover with fan on
[12:46] <Kilos> but this is the dicey power socket that used to switch off on its own member
[12:49] <magespawn> ah right, looking good so far then
[12:51] <Kilos> yip
[12:51] <Kilos> hi N8Wulf 
[12:52] <N8Wulf> Mr Kilos!!! How you my man?
[12:52] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[12:56] <N8Wulf> very well thanx... busy sorting HDDs... wanna build a Media server this week if all goes well
[12:57] <theblazehen> N8Wulf: What are you goint to run on? MiniDLNA?
[12:58] <Kilos> nice
[13:00] <N8Wulf> ow eish... Ubuntu and some server addOn I discovered a while back, cant remember the name right now. Webadmin like, but includes P&P support for HDDs as well as merging the HDDs into a single volume
[13:00] <N8Wulf> will look up MiniDLNA
[13:25] <charl> magespawn: that's really dumb, they scare off potential employees just by that nonsense
[13:26] <charl> talking about mybb, i saw something else equally dumb
[13:26] <charl> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/77656-good-news-for-internet-speeds-in-south-africa.html
[13:27] <charl> the title sounds positive, until you read further down:
[13:27] <charl> "âAt 2.1 Mbps, including a quarterly decline of less than 1%, South Africa continued to have the lowest average connection speed among the surveyed EMEA countries,â the report stated."
[13:29] <magespawn> charl: sometimes i think the recruitment agency/department could do with a little help in the wording of the adverts
[13:30] <magespawn> i have just seen another where i think superman would not be able to get the job
[13:30] <magespawn> at least according to the discription
[13:31] <charl> yeah i know those
[13:31] <charl> i once got an advertisement from a cape-town based agency looking for a person that can write "bug free code"
[13:31] <magespawn> so the perfect programmer then
[13:31] <charl> if even google, microsoft and the likes can't find people who can write bug-free code, i wonder how these people think they can get them
[13:32] <charl> how's that for demonstrating unrealistic expectations ?
[13:32] <magespawn> just a bit 
[13:32] <magespawn> a bit like this one http://www.pnet.co.za/index.php?s=advert_view&g=4930&x=1900692&i=733&pop=1
[13:32] <charl> now you know if you take a job like that, doesn't matter how good you are, they will always be dissatisfied with your labour
[13:33] <magespawn> yup at least that above link they are prepared to pay, some do not even want to do that
[13:34] <charl> hold on, they want a network administrator who is going to do development?
[13:34] <magespawn> yup
[13:34] <charl> who are they kidding
[13:35] <charl> you can't possibly specialise on all that
[13:35] <magespawn> i am sort of heading in that direction, but not there yet
[13:36] <charl> that sounds too rough though, too many different technologies
[13:36] <charl> sounds like a minimum of two separate jobs
[13:36] <magespawn> i can do most of the networking they want, but i am only just learning to program
[13:36] <charl> but hold on, it gets worse
[13:36] <charl> most of the skills listed at the top have nothing to do with networking
[13:37] <charl> they are server/application administration
[13:37] <charl> basically they are looking for an it-all-rounder, not a network administrator
[13:38] <magespawn> yup so then server admin plus networking with development
[13:38] <charl> yeah, i don't know what the going rates are in .za but 25-30K sound a bit low for that
[13:38] <magespawn> maybe you would have to clean the toilets, make the coffee and drive the ceo around too
[13:38] <charl> yeah
[13:39] <charl> let me put it this way, even if you have all the necessary credentials, you would fast be burned out or over-stressed
[13:39] <Kilos> hmm china wins the supercomputer war
[13:40] <Kilos> 50+ petaflops
[13:40] <charl> with most of their people still living in poverty yes
[13:41] <charl> sounds a bit like the new russia - first man in space while people are dying of hunger on the ground
[13:44] <Kilos> http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/budget-supercomputers-for-every-business/
[13:44] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[13:44] <Kilos> pcs taking over everything
[13:45] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[13:46] <charl> hi psychicist 
[13:46] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Meeting here tonight at 19.30 guys and gals
[13:46] <Maaz> Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting here tonight at 19.30 guys and gals
[13:46] <psychicist> hi charl 
[13:46] <psychicist> oh
[13:46] <psychicist> right here?
[13:47] <charl> Kilos: how's it the meeting?
[13:47] <psychicist> I will be present for once!
[13:47] <charl> according to the topic the meeting is already past
[13:47] <charl> last week
[13:47] <Kilos> monthly meeting here
[13:47] <psychicist> oh
[13:47] <charl> Next Meeting: Mon, 17 Jun 19:30
[13:47] <magespawn> we had to psotpone that one till this week charl
[13:47] <Kilos> last week we had probs so postponed
[13:47] <psychicist> last week I was very busy with my mom coming over
[13:47] <charl> today it's tjhe 24th
[13:47] <psychicist> hello magespawn 
[13:48] <charl> oh i see, topic has not been updated
[13:48] <Kilos> we couldnt get the pro to change dayes
[13:48] <Kilos> sorry
[13:48] <charl> np
[13:48] <Kilos> dates
[13:49] <magespawn> hey psychicist
[13:50] <magespawn> we are not sure who has the write access for the google calender either, so the website is also wrong at the moment
[13:53] <magespawn> i am off, see you at the meeting tonight
[13:54] <HawkiesZA> Cheerio
[13:54] <charl> ciao magespawn 
[13:55] <charl> i will be there too
[14:13] <Kilos> JoTraGo, meeting here tonight at 19.30 hey
[14:15] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[14:15] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[14:15] <nuvolari> het oom lekker verjaar?
[14:16] <Kilos> hi nuvolari 
[14:16] <Kilos> ja dankie seun still en rustig
[14:16] <nuvolari> dis goed oom!
[14:17] <nuvolari> is die stoel heel vir vanaand?
[14:17] <Kilos> hoop so Vince-0 sal op sy foon wees
[14:17] <Kilos> maar jy en/apie is standby
[14:23] <nuvolari> okei
[15:11] <Vince-0> eks hier 
[15:11] <Vince-0> but not all there
[15:12] <Kilos> mooi
[15:12] <Kilos> hehe
[15:12] <Vince-0> we talk about software freedom day on the dbnlug list today
[15:12] <Vince-0> its in September
[15:16] <Kilos> oh my remote got him
[16:10] <Vince-0> Seeing how this data connection holds out on IRC when I drive (afk)
[16:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:11] <Kilos> you hoping in and out
[16:11] <Kilos> hopping as well
[16:12] <Kilos> stand still when meeting starts
[16:12] <Kilos> hehe
[16:24] <Kilos> ohi SmilyBorg 
[16:25] <SmilyBorg> Hey there
[16:35] <superfly> jammer oom Kilos, I'm not sure I can make it tonight. will see if I can pop in
[16:35] <Kilos> ok superfly ty for letting us know
[16:35] <kbmonkey> hello all
[16:35] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[16:36] <kbmonkey> we on at 19h30 hey?
[16:36] <Kilos> yessir
[16:36] <kbmonkey> goodey
[16:37] <Vince-0> Whoot only one disconnect
[16:37] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[16:37] <Kilos> yo georgelappies  you in time to hang for the meeting
[16:38] <Vince-0> Hi peeps
[16:38] <georgelappies> cool :)
[16:38] <Kilos> no man Vince-0 
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 (~AndChat40@196-215-43-146.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has joined #ubuntu-za
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 has quit (Client Quit)
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 (~AndChat40@196-215-43-146.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has joined #ubuntu-za
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 (~Vince-0@196-215-43-146.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has joined #ubuntu-za
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 has quit (Client Quit)
[16:38] <Kilos> * Vince-0 (~Vince-0@41.13.170.6) has joined #ubuntu-za
[16:38] <Kilos> and one more
[16:39] <Kilos> sorry for the spam peeps
[16:40] <kbmonkey> spam spam spam spam. monty python anyone?
[16:40]  * Kilos hides
[16:40] <kbmonkey> hi Vince-0 georgelappies Kilos and superfly en kie
[16:40] <georgelappies> hi kbmonkey
[16:40] <Vince-0> 3G vodacom for the lose
[16:41] <Kilos> voda gives lotsa stress
[16:41] <Kilos> service seems to have dropped
[16:41] <Kilos> or deteriorated
[16:42] <Vince-0> Only 4km drive
[16:42] <Kilos> wow
[16:42] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry I won't make it tonight 
[16:42] <Kilos> aw inetpro where are you
[16:42] <Kilos> all ok??
[16:43] <Kilos> i spose ill have to watch the youngsters then
[16:43] <kbmonkey> who are you calling youngster? throws bananas
[16:43] <Kilos> lol
[16:44] <Kilos> youngsters includes everyone under 40
[16:44] <kbmonkey> do multiple personalities add up their ages?
[16:44] <Kilos> rofl
[16:55] <Kilos> eek now peer got him
[16:56] <Vince-0_> (Sitting still and still disconnects)
[16:56] <Kilos> oh my
[16:57] <Kilos> fone them and moan
[16:57] <Kilos> say you got serious meeting coming up
[16:57] <nuvolari> lol kbmonkey 
[16:57] <nuvolari> aloha
[16:57] <Kilos> 111 is the number methinks
[16:58] <Kilos> nuvolari, jy spandeer te min tyd hier
[16:59] <Kilos> supper time 
[17:03] <nuvolari> maaaaar ek kan nie help nie oom Kilos 
[17:03] <nuvolari> as ek moet besig wees dan is dit so :-/
[17:04] <Kilos> hmm..
[17:04] <Kilos> in die aande ook?
[17:04] <nuvolari> my ouers was weer hier, en nou moet ek begin swot, en my suster-hulle kom die naweek vir 2 weke
[17:04] <nuvolari> ek skryf examen 5 aug
[17:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:05] <Kilos> ok as jy studeer is dit goed seun
[17:05] <Vince-0_> Wat skryf Jay?
[17:05] <Kilos> skuus man
[17:06] <nuvolari> Vince-0_: Oracle OCA :P
[17:06] <Vince-0_> I mean nov*, need tab key on mobile
[17:06] <Vince-0_> Nice!
[17:06] <Kilos> ask magespawn he worked it out on his goodie
[17:07] <nuvolari> I was a bit upset with the quality of the 'fificial' oracle guide
[17:07] <nuvolari> *official
[17:07] <nuvolari> it is full of errors
[17:07] <Vince-0_> Age nee
[17:08] <nuvolari> luckily found a book for the same exam from Packt
[17:08] <nuvolari> so far it is stacks better
[17:09] <kbmonkey> today I did a Java update at work, it read "brought to you by Oracle" and I thought, yeah standing on the shoulders of giants, aren't we?
[17:10] <Kilos> alles van die beste met die examen nuvolari 
[17:11] <kbmonkey> ja good luck met die exams nuvo
[17:12] <Kilos> is examen the right word
[17:12] <Kilos> eksamen
[17:12] <Kilos> whew
[17:13] <kbmonkey> xmen?
[17:13] <kbmonkey> he he
[17:13] <kbmonkey> Kilos, what do you call a fly that lost it's wings?
[17:13] <Kilos> im getting bad with spelling
[17:13] <Kilos> walk
[17:14] <kbmonkey> :D
[17:14] <Kilos> hehe
[17:14] <nuvolari> thanks oom Kilos, kbmonkey
[17:15] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: did you read about the timed expirations on java installs?
[17:15] <nuvolari> it's messed up
[17:15] <kbmonkey> really? no I did not read about that yet.
[17:16] <kbmonkey> can 'o worms inc
[17:16] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday you here?
[17:16] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, I started on some processing (.org), it uses Java :D
[17:16] <nuvolari> http://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/1gm2tn/jdk_now_comes_with_an_expiration_date_unknown/
[17:17] <kbmonkey> you can switch the build target over to Android too. 
[17:18] <nuvolari> ooh, that looks interesting
[17:18] <Kilos> is android a complete OS
[17:19] <Kilos> just for fones or installable on pc as well
[17:19] <nuvolari> Kilos: well, it's built on the linux kernel
[17:19] <nuvolari> there is an x86 project where it can be installed on 'normal' computers too
[17:19] <Kilos> isnt that where the future lies
[17:20] <Kilos> have pc and fone the same
[17:20] <nuvolari> well, we have tablets
[17:22] <Kilos> hi there nlsthzn 
[17:23] <Kilos> you just in time
[17:23] <nlsthzn> as always :D
[17:23] <nuvolari> aloha! :D
[17:23] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:23] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[17:24] <Kilos> yo HawkiesZA 
[17:24] <HawkiesZA> Yello
[17:24] <HawkiesZA> How're things oom Kilos?
[17:24] <Kilos> good ty
[17:24] <Kilos> and you?
[17:25] <HawkiesZA> Pretty good, thanks
[17:26] <Kilos> Vince-0_, make sure so long you got bot control
[17:29] <Vince-0_> Ag nee this connekie will not do
[17:30] <Kilos> your choice do you wanna delegate the chair
[17:30] <Kilos> it time
[17:31] <Vince-0_> I think so, I will be door bouncer
[17:31] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ping
[17:31] <Kilos> between you and nuvolari for chair
[17:31] <kbmonkey> yup
[17:31] <Kilos> times moving
[17:31] <kbmonkey> am I hosting or vince?
[17:31] <Kilos> no multitasking
[17:32] <Kilos> vince got probs with konnecting
[17:32] <Kilos> so you it
[17:32] <kbmonkey> okay
[17:32]  * nuvolari :O the agenda is empty
[17:32] <Kilos> kbmonkey, go go go
[17:33] <kbmonkey> let me find that agenda page...
[17:33] <Kilos> setup the bot first man
[17:33] <nuvolari>  http://bit.ly/18snzox
[17:34] <kbmonkey> Maaz, start meeting about Monthly IRC meet June 2013
[17:34]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:34] <nlsthzn> Maaz, my name is Neil Oosthuizen
[17:34] <Kilos> Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe\
[17:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[17:34] <Maaz> nlsthzn: I already know stuff about my name
[17:34] <nlsthzn> fffuuuuuuuu
[17:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[17:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: Alrighty
[17:34] <nlsthzn> Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen
[17:34] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Alrighty
[17:34] <Kilos> apologies from inetpro and superfly 
[17:35] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[17:35] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Alrighty
[17:35] <theblazehen> Maaz, I am Jeandre Henderson
[17:35] <Maaz> theblazehen: Righto
[17:35] <Vince-0> Maaz, I am Vincent Swart
[17:35] <Maaz> Vince-0: Righto
[17:35] <HawkiesZA> Maaz: I am Gerrit Vermeulen
[17:35] <Maaz> HawkiesZA: Righto
[17:35] <SmilyBorg> Maaz: I am Una Karlsen
[17:35] <Maaz> SmilyBorg: Done
[17:36] <Kilos> Maaz, welcome
[17:36] <Maaz> Welcome to tonights meeting everyone
[17:36] <nuvolari> we're doing something wrong
[17:36] <nuvolari> why aren't the events showing up on ubuntu.com?
[17:36] <Kilos> what?
[17:36] <kbmonkey> the fact that we don't have an agenda nuvolari ?
[17:36] <nuvolari> oh, past meetings
[17:36] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Welcome
[17:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcome
[17:36] <nuvolari> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/meetings/history/ <- looks better :P
[17:37] <kbmonkey> Welcome every one, ladies and gents
[17:37] <nlsthzn> alo all
[17:37] <Kilos> ty mr chair
[17:37] <kbmonkey> I will add the agenda items as we go, the loco pages are a bit slow so bear with us :)
[17:37] <nuvolari> oh hi nlsthzn 
[17:37] <nuvolari> hmm, not just the loco pages
[17:38] <nuvolari> the interwebs in general is slow tonight
[17:38]  * nuvolari blames 8ta
[17:38] <kbmonkey> the agenda url lives at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/602/detail/
[17:38] <kbmonkey> so while I distract everyone with these bananas, I will add the next item...
[17:39] <Kilos> hehe
[17:39] <nlsthzn> om nom nom
[17:39] <HawkiesZA> BANANA!
[17:39] <kbmonkey> exactly that :)
[17:39] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I'm updating the meeting details
[17:39] <HawkiesZA> An alien's favourite fruit
[17:39] <nuvolari> wonder if that will mess things up
[17:40] <kbmonkey> it's a race condition :D
[17:40] <Kilos> ya he has a pottasium shortage so lives off nanas
[17:40] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: what's your loco name?
[17:40] <nuvolari> login name
[17:41] <kbmonkey> it is wesley-werner nuvolari 
[17:41] <kbmonkey> so the public holiday threw us off, shall we refer to the meeting before for the minutes?
[17:42] <nlsthzn> never shall it be mentioned again...
[17:42] <Kilos> yip
[17:42] <nlsthzn> :p
[17:42] <nuvolari> :-/ wesley-werner isn't in the list
[17:43] <kbmonkey> I can't seem to find a link to the previous minutes, only the chat log
[17:43] <nuvolari> found it
[17:44] <nuvolari> will get it now kbmonkey 
[17:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Announcements and Admin
[17:44] <Maaz> Current Topic: Announcements and Admin
[17:44] <kbmonkey> okay, so to announce, we are ahving an impromptu agenda today
[17:44] <nuvolari> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/575/detail/
[17:44] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: ^^
[17:44] <kbmonkey> does anyone have a topic they like to discuss after the usual topics?
[17:45] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: SmilyBorg mentioned SFD on the list
[17:45] <kbmonkey> thanks nuvolari! I was looking there, that log link points to the chat log, and not one of the meeting either :p lol
[17:45] <nuvolari> or was id dlug o.O
[17:45] <nuvolari> can't remember
[17:46] <kbmonkey> oh dear, I have not read any email to see that. I am a terrible geek.
[17:46] <charl> sorry, a bit late
[17:46] <SmilyBorg> I mentioned SFD on the on the dbn-lug list
[17:46] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: yeah, dlug
[17:46] <Kilos> hi charl Cantide 
[17:46] <charl> Maaz: i am Charl van Niekerk
[17:46] <Maaz> charl: Done
[17:46] <SmilyBorg> though it makes sense for others to know and get involved
[17:46] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[17:46] <Cantide> oh hi Kilos charl
[17:47] <charl> hi Cantide 
[17:47] <Cantide> Maaz: I am Karl Wortmann
[17:47] <Maaz> Cantide: Alrighty
[17:47] <Cantide> sorry, forgot about the meeting :o
[17:47] <Cantide> just luck that i got here now :)
[17:47] <nuvolari> welcome Cantide 
[17:47] <Cantide> hey nuvolari
[17:47] <kbmonkey> ah found them. okay previous minutes for May 20th live at http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-05-20-17-38-47.txt
[17:47] <Kilos> kinda chaotic tonight
[17:48] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: link to the dbn-lug topic re. SFD: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/dbnlug/txR4bWPn5wo/discussion
[17:48] <kbmonkey> okay let's get this on
[17:48] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Review previous minutes
[17:48] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review previous minutes
[17:48] <kbmonkey> So I was tasked to update the team reports
[17:49] <kbmonkey> that did not happen, I am sad to say. I was not too sure on content to include.
[17:49] <kbmonkey> I need to help source some events or happenings to write about
[17:49] <nuvolari> *cough* nlsthzn halp? ^^
[17:49] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[17:50] <Kilos> hehe
[17:50] <Kilos> when i doubt ask!
[17:50] <Kilos> in
[17:50] <Vince-0> Dnblug hangout this Thursday at 8pm
[17:50] <nlsthzn> like I asked last time.. we need some central place to record the stuff, like a google doc
[17:50] <nlsthzn> then it is easy for who ever to update
[17:50] <kbmonkey> fine. Thanks Vince-0, noted in events!
[17:51] <nlsthzn> I had the same issue finding what who did and where they recorded it
[17:51] <nuvolari> or did not record it
[17:51] <Vince-0> Don't have link right now, notes are under construction
[17:52] <nlsthzn> nuvolari, yup, what I did once was to blog it myself and link an ubuntu hour for record keeping
[17:52] <kbmonkey> nlsthzn, you dealt with this before. you know the problem is not collating the data, but getting it in the first place. 
[17:52] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey, exactly
[17:53] <nuvolari> solution: we should just google+-event it :P
[17:53] <nlsthzn> might work but not all use google products
[17:53] <nuvolari> with a hangout
[17:53] <nlsthzn> lol
[17:53] <nuvolari> then have digital references to go back to in the form of a video :P
[17:54] <kbmonkey> I vote for that, there is bound to be one person with G+ access
[17:54] <kbmonkey> any way we can link it to the ubuntu-za group / page / tag to find it later?
[17:54] <nuvolari> I'm shocked that there are people out there that 'don't want to' use google products
[17:55] <Vince-0> Google is now a necessary evil
[17:55] <nlsthzn> NSA approives
[17:55] <nlsthzn> *aaproves
[17:55] <nlsthzn> *approvesdd
[17:55] <nlsthzn> *approves
[17:55] <kbmonkey> there is a ubuntu-za google group. who admins that?
[17:55] <nuvolari> ok, it might be something nice for once in a while to have a hangout for Ubuntu-ZA
[17:55] <Kilos> inetpro, methinks kbmonkey 
[17:56] <nuvolari> but IRC still reigns king
[17:56] <magespawn>  howdy all
[17:56] <Cantide> hi magespawn
[17:56] <nuvolari> howdy magespawn 
[17:56] <magespawn>  Maaz I am Greg Eames
[17:56] <Maaz> magespawn: Yessir
[17:56] <magespawn> sorry for being late
[17:56] <kbmonkey> hi magespawn 
[17:56] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic
[17:56] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sorry...
[17:57] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:57] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: current topic
[17:57] <nuvolari> er
[17:57] <nuvolari> Maaz: current topic
[17:57] <Maaz> nuvolari: Excuse me?
[17:57] <nuvolari> oh :-/
[17:57] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed track events on G+  via the Ubuntu-ZA community at https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992
[17:57] <Maaz> Agreed: track events on G+  via the Ubuntu-ZA community at https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992
[17:58] <kbmonkey> lets see how it goes using that...
[17:58] <kbmonkey> we are on Admin right now, move to Events?
[17:58] <nuvolari> +1
[17:59] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Events
[17:59] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[17:59] <nuvolari> I'm not aware of any events, but then again I'm quite disconnected :P
[18:00] <kbmonkey> okay, Dnblug hangout this Thursday at 8pm. Vince will post the details on this to the lists for us
[18:01] <kbmonkey> our meet up with the fly was pretty nice, there was no geekery with hardware though
[18:01] <Kilos> hehe
[18:01] <Cantide> kbmonkey, i missed that :'(
[18:02] <magespawn> like ways up here when he did his handbrake turn in hluhluwe
[18:02] <Cantide> lol
[18:02] <nuvolari> lol!
[18:02] <kbmonkey> now that is news worthy :)
[18:03] <nuvolari> the most action hluhluwe seen in a year
[18:03] <Kilos> hehe
[18:03] <kbmonkey> okay so it seems pretty quiet then
[18:03] <magespawn> in the geek/ubuntu-za/linux area for sure
[18:04] <kbmonkey> dang nabbit
[18:05] <kbmonkey> not much of a gamer, but anyone keen for a meetup to play a supertuxkart tourney?
[18:05] <Vince-0> Yar! Maybe an fps
[18:06] <Cantide> i bought the humble indie bundle 8 a few weeks ago :) some nice games there - and on Linux, too :)
[18:06] <kbmonkey> sure if it runs on my lappie
[18:06] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey, bring it on my tux kart rocks
[18:06] <nuvolari> ack, would you guys and ladies excuse me early please?
[18:07] <Kilos> yip nuvolari ty for coming in
[18:07] <nuvolari> sorry for being inconvenient :-/
[18:07] <kbmonkey> okay then we have a task: discuss some possible game tourneys. I feel too serious and don't play enough. I bet many others feel the same ;)
[18:07] <Kilos> life happens
[18:07] <kbmonkey> sure nuvolari, thanks for joining
[18:07] <kbmonkey> in fact, this is our last topic, there are no more after this
[18:07] <nuvolari> cheers everyone, have a nice evening, thanks for the meeting so far :)
[18:07] <Kilos> cheers nuvolari 
[18:08] <Kilos> study hard
[18:08] <kbmonkey> Vince-0, I was thinking STK as you can play on the same machine with usb gamepads. so it can happen at a coffee shoppe or the like. 
[18:09] <kbmonkey> I realize getting a venue is sometimes troublesome
[18:09] <Vince-0> Can use my office, nice broadband
[18:09] <kbmonkey> study hard meneer
[18:10] <kbmonkey> that would rock 'n roll Vince-0 :)
[18:10] <Cantide> :)
[18:10] <Cantide> where is this? haha
[18:11] <kbmonkey> something to think about indeed
[18:11] <kbmonkey> okay for the rest do you have event related info to add?
[18:11]  * Cantide recommends humble indie bundles
[18:12] <kbmonkey> those are great Cantide
[18:12] <Cantide> yes, yes they are
[18:13] <kbmonkey> okay before we get off topic, can I close off this one?
[18:13] <Cantide> yes from me, not sure about others
[18:13] <Squirm> Maaz: I am Sinjin Swanepoel
[18:13] <Maaz> Squirm: Yessir
[18:13] <Kilos> yes
[18:13] <magespawn> i am good
[18:13] <kbmonkey> A reminder that the mailing list is still primary means of discussing events.
[18:13] <Kilos> hehe wb Squirm 
[18:14] <kbmonkey> for those of us who even read our emails... *looks guilty*
[18:14] <Kilos> and here man
[18:14] <Squirm> yeah :/
[18:14] <nlsthzn> google spam detector munches 90% of mails from the list
[18:14] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Cantide> oh, i still seem to get a lot of them
[18:14] <magespawn> add the list email
[18:14] <kbmonkey> add the mailing list address to your contacts
[18:15] <kbmonkey> anyway, I want to thank everyone here for joining. It was interesting.
[18:15] <Cantide> yes, that's probably what i did and i have forgotten
[18:15] <Cantide> oh, i have something to add
[18:15] <Cantide> to the meeting
[18:15] <kbmonkey> go ahead Cantide :)
[18:16] <Cantide> just a thought
[18:16] <Cantide> and this hasn't been thought through very well, i might add, so it may be a bit silly
[18:16] <Cantide> but as a loco
[18:16] <Cantide> is it possible to do something for charity + ubuntu..
[18:16] <Cantide> like for example, donate some ubuntu disks somewhere
[18:17] <Cantide> 2 problems - finding the right place to donate them, and ensuring that it's not a waste of time
[18:17] <magespawn> for us to donate?
[18:18] <Cantide> yeah
[18:18] <Cantide> would be a nice way to spread Ubuntu
[18:18] <kbmonkey> Good idea Cantide, but to whom would we donate?
[18:18] <Cantide> that's the problem :p
[18:19] <Kilos> start with schools
[18:19] <kbmonkey> educationals already have contracts for OS's (mostly anyway)
[18:19] <Cantide> yeah, that is one possibility
[18:19] <kbmonkey> if we can find one that doesn't it is a plan
[18:19] <Cantide> but we'd not be able to donate hardware - too costly
[18:20] <Cantide> so just disks... but then setting it up etc. etc. etc.
[18:20] <magespawn> no they don't, at least not ms, they stopped the schools program
[18:20] <Cantide> so yeah, it's a nice idea, but it has some serious complications to work through first
[18:20] <Kilos> supply stckers on the dvds on where to get help
[18:21] <Kilos> stickers
[18:21] <Cantide> eh, us offering support would be tricky :p although we could grow our channel that way
[18:21] <magespawn> well i am sure we can come up with some ideas
[18:21] <kbmonkey> do pre-schools have a need for pc's?
[18:21] <Cantide> annnnnnnnyway, just a thought
[18:21] <kbmonkey> something to think on, thanks Cantide :)
[18:22] <Cantide> it would be cool to do something like that, if we could get over the initial hurdles
[18:22] <Cantide> Africa is a good place for that imho
[18:22] <Cantide> maybe someone on the mailing list would know of a place to donate
[18:22] <Cantide> for example
[18:23] <Cantide> then we each chip in a hundred or so, and someone volunteers to burn the disks, someone else in the region collects them and distributes them
[18:23] <kbmonkey> put some feelers out
[18:23] <Squirm> magespawn: we have the schools license
[18:24] <Cantide> hardware is probably much easier to donate than software, too -.-v
[18:24] <kbmonkey> what license is that Squirm ?
[18:24] <magespawn> not free anymore though Squirm 
[18:24] <Squirm> I think the biggest issue with distributing disks, is the actual setup and time taken to teach
[18:25] <Squirm> kbmonkey: for MS?
[18:25] <Squirm> or was this for ubuntu
[18:25] <kbmonkey> ah. for ubuntu
[18:25] <Cantide> Squirm, yes, but perhaps we could get around that by finding a place that is willing to do that themselves, and join here for help, as an example
[18:26] <Cantide> if it's too difficult to do, then scrap it :p
[18:26] <Cantide> just thought it was a nice idea
[18:26] <Cantide> i will have some free time in a month
[18:26] <kbmonkey> some nice thoughts there
[18:27] <Squirm> I still want to set up a toaster :/
[18:27] <kbmonkey> Alright folks, just before we hit the hour mark we say goodbye. 
[18:27] <Cantide> :p
[18:27] <Kilos> next meet 15th?
[18:27] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic next meeting
[18:27] <Maaz> Current Topic: next meeting
[18:28] <kbmonkey> the 15th is the 3rd Monday in July
[18:28] <Kilos> yip
[18:29] <nlsthzn> koobai
[18:29] <kbmonkey> Sounds good, the 15th it will be. I'll grab the chair.
[18:29] <Kilos> cheers nlsthzn sleep tight
[18:29] <Kilos> ty for being here
[18:29] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed Wesley to chair next meeting on 15 July
[18:29] <Maaz> Agreed: Wesley to chair next meeting on 15 July
[18:29]  * nlsthzn not sleeping now... just saying koobai before the hour as asked
[18:29] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <kbmonkey> if anyone wants to chair send us an email on the list
[18:30] <Kilos> ty for chairing at such short notice kbmonkey 
[18:30] <kbmonkey> immediate notice ;)
[18:30] <Kilos> Vince-0, get 8ta
[18:30] <Kilos> hehe ya
[18:30] <kbmonkey> Thanks all! meeting over and out.
[18:30] <kbmonkey> Maaz, end meeting
[18:30] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:30] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.html
[18:30] <Cantide> thanks kbmonkey :)
[18:31] <Kilos> 8ta might be a bit slow but seems more stable anyway
[18:31] <kbmonkey> Okay now I will make the event for next time with the links ;)
[18:31] <Cantide> cool :)
[18:31] <Kilos> i go crash now guys
[18:31] <Cantide> and link us to it here
[18:31] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:31] <Cantide> night Kilos
[18:31] <HawkiesZA> night Kilos
[18:31] <kbmonkey> Night Kilos 
[18:31] <Kilos> ty all
[18:34] <kbmonkey> oh dear, do not click the submit agenda item button twice. oops.
[18:37] <charl> ciao
[18:41]  * magespawn goes to check other social media
[18:42] <kbmonkey> okay the agenda lives at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/615/detail/
[18:43] <kbmonkey> After that experience I don't want to load any more pages XD
[18:43] <Cantide> haha
[18:44] <kbmonkey> Right. I'd love to play a bit but I have lectures to watch
[18:44] <Cantide> :)
[18:44] <Cantide> good luck
[18:44] <kbmonkey> I am a week behind from internet suckage last week. eina
[18:45] <Cantide> :(
[18:45]  * Cantide builds kbmonkey a time machine
[18:45] <Cantide> I am four weeks behind because the police lost my documents
[18:45] <Cantide> welcome to Africa -.-
[18:45] <kbmonkey> Thanks! warps back to the future
[18:46] <kbmonkey> open a theft case against them. he he
[18:46] <kbmonkey> that truly sucks Cantide :(
[18:46] <Cantide> haha
[18:46] <Cantide> yeah, it does
[18:47] <Cantide> especially because the company in Korea asked me a day later how my documents were coming along -.-
[18:47] <Cantide> anyway, go watch your lectures!
[18:47] <kbmonkey> right!
[19:03] <magespawn> this is cool http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/06/cassini-captures-gigantic-hurricane-on-saturn-in-exquisite-detail/
[19:10] <Cantide> yes, thanks :)
[19:10] <magespawn> good night all
[19:10] <Cantide> I also like looking out for pictures of mars these days
[19:10] <Cantide> night night '<