[00:34] <bluesabre> OvenWerks: that functionality is currently in development, hopefully I will finish it soon
[01:01] <bkerensa> Xubuntu uses Ubuntu as Grub Entry?
[01:03] <Unit193> bkerensa: Everything uses Ubuntu, it's what lsb_release outputs.  Check /etc/default/grub to learn more.
[01:03] <Unit193> "Everything" being all flavors.
[01:08] <micahg> bkerensa: grub entries refer to the kernel, not the desktop env by default
[01:08] <bkerensa> mmm
[01:08] <bkerensa> kk
[01:09] <bkerensa> micahg, do you know why xfdesktop might ignore deja dups .desktop file? 
[01:10] <knome> bkerensa, does it have OnlyShowIn or sth like that?
[01:10] <bkerensa> looks
[01:10] <bkerensa> I dont see anything like that 
[01:10] <micahg> NoDisplay=true
[01:10] <knome> heh :)
[01:11] <bkerensa> ahh
[01:11] <pleia2> knome!
[01:11] <knome> pleia2!
[01:11]  * bkerensa CTRL+W OnlyShowIn
[01:11] <bkerensa> I should have manually parsed 
[01:11] <bkerensa> ;)
[01:12] <bkerensa> \o/ now I have Deja Dup and all is good :) and it has Ubuntu One support so I don't have to make a script!
[03:31] <OvenWerks> bluesabre: I have found I can't get that functionality to work unless I move the line  <DefaultMergeDirs/>
[03:31] <OvenWerks> to the second last line of the applications.menu file in use
[03:34] <OvenWerks> in the case of xubuntu that file would be /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu
[03:34] <OvenWerks> The only DE that does not have this problem is KDE... (well ubuntustudio is fixed now too)
[03:37] <OvenWerks> bluesabre: I would like to know if you find the same thing.
[11:19] <knome> forestpiskie, you want to do alpha 1?
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[13:18] <smartboyhw> s/1 hour /42 minutes.
[13:24] <ochosi> recently a few interesting appmenu alternatives have popped up (slingshot-launcher and whisker-menu)
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Scrap that, it's 6.
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Scrap that, it's 66...
[13:25]  * smartboyhw gets confused with the time...
[15:08] <bluesabre> ochosi: wanted to try whisker menu, was too lazy to build it for xfce-4.10
[15:08] <ochosi> bluesabre: there's a debian package
[15:08] <ochosi> on the project site
[15:08] <bluesabre> I tried that, it was incompatible
[15:08] <bluesabre> libxfce4util4 mismatch
[15:09] <bluesabre> now I am just using a super minimal setup
[15:10] <bluesabre> 2 panels, one with a clock and transparent bg, sits over windows, other with my indicators, autohide
[15:10] <ochosi> weird that it didn't work
[15:10] <ochosi> i'm also using 4.10
[15:10] <ochosi> in raring
[15:10] <bluesabre> yeah, beats me
[15:11] <ochosi> one sec, i'll take another look
[15:12] <ochosi> bluesabre: try that link: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/gottcode/xUbuntu_13.04/amd64/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin_1.0.0-1_amd64.deb
[15:17] <bluesabre> ochosi, that worked, thanks!
[15:18] <ochosi> cool
[15:18] <ochosi> it's basically appfinder in a menu
[15:18] <bluesabre> yeah
[15:18] <ochosi> could be a replacement for our menu
[15:18] <bluesabre> not such a bad thing though
[15:18] <ochosi> but i'd have to draw quite a few app-icons for that to be really sharp
[15:18] <ochosi> lotsa 22/24px sizes missing
[15:18] <ochosi> and i've just gotten started on the 64px department lately (for alt-tab)
[15:21] <bluesabre> wouldn't want you to get bored :]
[15:21] <ochosi> hmpf :)
[17:15] <elfy> knome: as far as Alpha1 goes - unless the desktop launcher gets sorted out they'll all be critical fails ;)
[17:17] <elfy> assuming it's ok by then - then I'd say yes, and I'd like to know if we want to do anything in cadence week 2 - afaik - the image stays up for a week
[17:23] <bluesabre> hi elfy!
[17:23] <bluesabre> re: autopilot, I'm a python guru :)
[17:27] <bluesabre> haven't had a chance to really look at the autopilot stuff yet, though
[17:34] <elfy> bluesabre: that's a bonus then - I'm still convinced it's voodoo :)
[17:34] <elfy> I think really that our best bet is to aim for using it during 14.04 cycle
[17:41] <bluesabre> yeah, you're probably right, but if we can possibly start using it with even a few apps this cycle, we can hit the ground running with 14.04
[17:58] <elfy> bluesabre: agreed 
[19:11] <bluesabre> elfy: starting to play with it some, I've started creating basic tests for catfish :)
[19:16] <bluesabre> it's not too difficult, the worse part is figuring out exactly which widget you want to attach to
[19:16] <bluesabre> aha, should pay more attention, elfy already quit
[19:21] <Unit193> His backlog client is here.
[19:21] <bluesabre> ah, good news :)
[19:21] <bluesabre> hows it going, Unit193?
[19:21] <Unit193> Hot and sticky. :/
[19:21] <Unit193> You?
[19:22] <bluesabre> Slowly, very very slowly
[20:03] <knome> forestpiskie, desktop launcher?
[20:04] <knome> bluesabre, we definitely should start with preparing this cycle so we would unleash the full power of automated testing for 14.04
[20:11] <skellat> knome: You sound like an officer aboard The Death Star there... :-)
[20:11] <knome> :)
[20:11] <knome> it's too hot here.
[20:12] <skellat> How hot is it?
[20:14] <knome> around 25C
[20:14] <knome> but that's too hot
[20:15] <skellat> It is 28.9C here in Ashtabula
[20:15] <knome> i know, i know, it's hotter there
[20:15] <bluesabre> knome, sure thing.  I'm going to start working with this more just for regression testing on all my apps :)
[20:15] <skellat> Then again, I used to live in Nevada where 39.4C was normal
[20:15] <knome> bluesabre, cool
[20:15] <bluesabre> its pretty awesome
[20:18] <bluesabre> elfy, we can probably tweak the gedit tests for use with mousepad
[20:19] <Noskcaj> stop complaining about warmth! It's -5 outside ATM
[20:19] <knome> sounds like a good place to be in
[20:24] <skellat> Noskcaj: Which state are you enjoying such Australian winter conditions in?
[20:24] <Noskcaj> skellat, New South Wales
[20:24] <skellat> Ah
[20:25] <skellat> Chilly night for an antarctic blast
[20:30] <Noskcaj> skellat, if that was directed at me, you might want to study geography a bit more
[22:34] <skellat> Noskcaj: I know.  The state of Victoria is closer and across the Tasman Straits is NZ which is the ultimate easy access besides Chile to Antarctica.  :-)
[22:35] <Noskcaj> that was a bit overkill, but yes