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ubottubsk: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!00:17
bskknome: sorry, wrong command00:17
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tortibHello is anyone around?03:12
tortibI have a problem with my realtek RTL8111/8168 device using the r8169 kernel module03:12
tortibI was wondering if there was a way to get module r8168 on my HDD so I could load it03:13
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delevemorning13:21
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bgardnerdeleve: Hello13:21
delevebgardner, do you know how to skip the login screen on xubuntu?13:22
bgardnerdeleve: Not off the top of my head, let me look.13:23
delevebgardner, i still dont have to put my password, but i have to choose, does have any option to go right through it?13:23
delevebgardner, thanx13:23
delevebgardner, dont rush im still here ;)13:27
bgardnerdeleve: Thanks, still digging.13:27
bgardnerdeleve: Try this, it's for Oneiric but it should still be relevant:  http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/09/setting-lightdm-to-auto-login-oneiric.html13:28
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delevebgardner, ??13:46
delevebgardner, r u there?13:46
TheSheep!u13:46
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bgardnerdeleve: Yes, did you have any luck with that link?13:46
bgardnerdeleve: Are you still with us?13:50
delevebgardner, yes14:22
delevebgardner, sorry14:22
delevebgardner, i was feeding my kid14:22
delevebgardner, what link?14:22
delevebgardner, sorry, didnt saw the link14:23
bgardnerdeleve: Up above, I said: "Try this, it's for Oneiric but it should still be relevant:  http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/09/setting-lightdm-to-auto-login-oneiric.html"14:23
bgardnerdeleve: Or, just work with /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf14:23
krytarikIt will be the same either way though. :P14:24
krytarikSince apperently there is no GUI in Xfce/Xubuntu for that.14:24
bgardnerkrytarik: Correct.14:24
krytarik*GUI tool14:24
krytarikdeleve, you could as well have a look at this though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autologin14:25
krytarikThat includes a command for setting it.14:25
bgardnerThanks krytarik, that's actually more current and probably the better guide.14:26
krytarikNah, it's not really, just the additionally command.14:26
krytarik*additional14:27
krytarikI'm one of the authors of that site, so. :P14:27
krytarikI like that it also includes all the advanced settings.14:28
delevebgardner, ok, let me see14:28
Distrotbgardner: Hola! Sorry to bother, but I replaced my HDD and installed xubuntu again. Trying to see if anything will crash. An odd request, I know, but do you have any suggestions? lol14:42
bgardnerDistrot: Suggestions as to what?  You replaced the HDD so all the discussion we had before is no longer relevant to the new installation.14:43
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Distrotbgardner: Sorry for lack of clarification. Basically, I am trying to see if I can replicate the actions I did before that spontaneously caused crashes. I was wondering if you could think of any way to lessen the spontaneity and reproduce these crashes. I am guessing the answer is "no" but I figured I might as well ask anyways.15:27
Distrotbgardner: I followed your suggestion in replacing the HDD (as if you couldn't tell).15:28
bgardnerDistrot: The answer is definitely no - your results were, in my opinion, highly unusual.  The last I heard, you couldn't run any application without strange behavior or crashes, which I would consider wildly unexpected for Xubuntu.15:29
bgardnerDistrot: Although, loading and playing with any of the major applications (LibreOffice, Eclipse, Inkscape, etc.) would be a valid test case.15:30
Distrotbgardner: Ok, I thought as much. I also wanted to thank you for your suggestion, as I have been testing it for a few hours now and I have not seen any visible signs of instability.15:32
bgardnerDistrot: You're very welcome, glad you're getting good results.15:33
samy_hi boys15:39
samy_i use xubuntu15:39
samy_and lose navigation buttons in tabs15:39
bgardnersamy_: Hello, and welcome15:39
samy_hot go give back him15:39
samy_i lose closed, resize and minimalize buttons15:39
samy_and google chrome groupe all open tabs in one15:40
samy_:S15:40
samy_can u help me?15:40
bgardnersamy_: This is all in relation to Google Chrome?15:41
samy_anddddddddd15:41
samy_officelibre15:41
samy_and etc open applications15:41
samy_and skype15:41
samy_too15:41
samy_dont have Title Bar/Min Max Close Buttons All Missing15:41
samy_;sssssssssssss15:41
samy_im soo crazy nowwwwwww :@15:41
bgardnersamy_: Can you provide us a screenshot of this behavior?15:42
samy_ok15:42
samy_w815:42
samy_i give u15:42
samy_http://prikachi.com/images/3/6257003d.png15:43
samy_here15:43
samy_and here in chrome15:44
samy_http://prikachi.com/images/10/6257010j.png15:44
samy_dont show other open tabs..15:44
samy_:(15:47
bgardnersamy_: Can you hold left alt and click-drag on the IM window to show us the top edge in the screenshot?15:47
bgardnersamy_: Or does it not *have* a title bar?  Looks to me like the WM died.15:48
samy_alt dont work15:49
samy_..............15:49
samy_i can give u team viwer?15:49
samy_please fix that shit15:49
samy_:(((15:49
pleia2!language | samy_15:50
ubottusamy_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.15:50
TheSheep!language | samy_15:50
samy_;(15:50
bgardnersamy_: That looks like your window manager crashed.  I'm researching what to do about that, bear with me.15:51
TheSheepsamy_: press alt+f2 and type xfwm415:51
TheSheepsamy_: that should fix it15:51
bgardnerTheSheep: Thank you, that's what I wanted to find.15:51
samy_I can not do it alone15:52
samy_im new on linux15:52
samy_:*((((((((15:52
bgardnersamy_: Did you do what TheSheep said to do?15:53
samy_i cant find xfwm415:53
samy_in app finder15:53
bgardnersamy_: What happened when you do Alt-F2 and type xfwm4?15:54
samy_xfce4 or xfwm4?15:54
samy_cannot find xfwm415:55
samy_;s15:55
samy_:(15:55
samy_omg15:55
bgardnersamy_: You won't find it in the menu15:55
bgardnersamy_: Do you get a run dialog when you press Alt-F2?15:55
elfytry xfwm4 --restart15:55
elfybgardner: the run dialog is also app finder15:56
samy_xfwm4 --restart xfwm4: Unknown option --restart.15:56
elfynot restart15:56
elfysorry - replace perhaps15:57
bgardnersamy_: xfwm4 --replace15:57
samy_(xfwm4:2873): xfwm4-WARNING **: Failed to connect to session manager: Failed to connect to the session manager: SESSION_MANAGER environment variable not defined15:58
samy_maybe messed everything but do not know how15:59
samy_i reboot16:01
samy_and come back :(((((((16:01
bgardnersamy_: Good idea, please do16:01
samy_uhh16:07
samy_no result16:07
samy_;s16:07
samy_someone help me through team viewer?16:08
bgardnersamy_: Okay, so you rebooted and when you come back up your windows still don't have title bars (your WM quit).16:08
bgardnersamy_: Is that correct?16:08
samy_what is WM?16:08
bgardnersamy_: Window Manager - in your case, xfwm416:08
samy_my window manager is work16:09
samy_still opened16:09
samy_right now16:09
bgardnersamy_: I'm restating your problem because while I see the problem, I don't know the answer.  Maybe someone else here can help us.16:09
samy_try with team viewer?16:10
bgardnersamy_: Open a terminal window and type this in it, then show us the output:  tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log -n 5016:11
elfy!paste16:12
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samy_!paste16:12
samy_[    22.542] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event14" [    22.544] (II) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: ignoring touch events for semi-multitouch device [    22.544] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: x-axis range 1472 - 5774 [    22.544] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: y-axis range 1408 - 5022 [    22.544] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: pressure range 0 - 255 [    22.544] (--) synaptics: SynP16:12
samy_too long16:12
samy_message16:12
samy_:@16:12
elfysamy_: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log -n 50 | pastebinit16:13
Sysisamy_: rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and log out and back in, don't select "save session" on logout window16:13
samy_http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=H8PVyL9E16:13
samy_here16:13
bgardnersamy_: Do what Sysi said and let us know if that helps.16:14
samy_sysi,16:15
samy_dude that is not only in chrome16:15
samy_my problem is not only in google chrome16:15
bgardnersamy_: Sysi's answer is good - go ahead and try it and report back.16:16
Sysiopen terminal and paste Ā»rm -rf ~/.cache/sessionsĀ« there, then the logout16:16
samy_no result16:17
samy_after post16:17
samy_...16:17
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Sysirunning that in terminal shouldn't give any output and nothing should happen before you log out16:19
samy_ok16:20
samy_i go reboot16:20
Sysiselect logout from main menu so that you get a popup with some options and a checkbox for "save session", do not check that16:21
samy__no result16:22
samy__after this command16:22
samy__and reset16:22
samy__;s16:22
samy__how to restore default settings16:24
samy__in WM?16:24
samy__can help me?16:24
bgardnersamy_: Still looking, hang in there.16:26
samy__ok16:28
bgardnersamy__: Please open a terminal and do 'cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit' and give us the link it returns.16:29
bgardnersamy__: Don't be root when you do that, I see from your last screenshot that you were.16:30
samy__cat: No such file or directory16:31
bgardnersamy__: You are running that command in a terminal window, yes?16:32
samy__yes16:32
samy__ofc16:32
samy__let me give you16:32
samy__team viewer..16:32
samy__that is soo easy..16:32
holsteinsamy__: this is not that kind of support.. we are volunteers.. and no one may be interested in "remote"ing into your system.. though, you can try the suggestions yourself, and ask if you have issues16:33
holsteinsamy__: do you have a terminal open?16:33
samy__yes16:34
holsteinsamy__: you can copy/paste the suggestion that bgardner has made for you16:34
holstein!pastebin | samy__ this is how to share that information back with the volunteers here16:34
ubottusamy__ this is how to share that information back with the volunteers here: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:34
samy__I do not know what to do16:36
holsteinsamy__: sure.. in what way? you dont understand ho to copy paste the command to the terminal and press enter?16:36
holsteinhow*16:36
samy__what command?16:36
holstein12:29 < bgardner> samy__: Please open a terminal and do 'cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit' and give us the link it returns.16:36
holsteinsamy__: cat ~/.xsession-errors16:37
samy__ok16:37
samy__http://paste.ubuntu.com/5795963/16:38
holsteinsamy__: if you want, you can ping bgardner with the paste.. like this.. " bgardner: here is that information you asked for, thanks "16:39
bgardnerThanks for the assist holstein, it's greatly appreciated.  I'm reading the result now samy__16:39
samy__i'm so sorry that you are wasting yours time, but I am new and do not know anything16:41
samy__I just wanted assistance16:41
bgardnersamy__: Assistance is what we are here for :)16:41
samy__:)16:42
samy__great16:42
bgardnersamy__: I'm not finding any useful clues in that log, let's try this next:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit16:51
samy__http://paste.ubuntu.com/5796012/16:52
samy__hey16:54
bgardnersamy__: Yes?16:54
samy__tell me how to reset as default settings in WM?16:54
bgardnersamy__: I'm not ignoring that question, I just don't know the answer.16:57
bgardnersamy__: My apologies, I have to step away but I will be back later.  And I've found some promising documentation that may help - when I get back we'll try them out.17:02
samy__good17:03
samy__i stay here17:03
samy__loooooooooooooooooool17:14
samy__i click alt + f1217:14
samy__and cant seee17:14
samy__navigation buttons17:14
samy__in chrome17:14
samy__skype and other open17:14
samy__apps17:14
samy__but after click maximalize can see again :D17:15
samy_bgardner17:50
bgardnersamy_17:50
samy_hey dude17:51
samy_listen17:51
bgardnersamy_: Yes?17:51
samy_i maximilize all windows17:51
samy_and cant seee17:51
samy_navigation buttons17:51
samy_:D17:51
samy_that is the problem17:51
samy_;D17:51
samy_i show u17:52
samy_with screens17:52
bgardnersamy_: Don't worry, I understand the problem - I just don't yet know the solution.  I do have some suggestions for you to try, however.17:52
bgardnersamy_: First, open a terminal and try this: xfwm4 --sm-client-disable17:53
samy_termin17:54
samy_ok17:54
bgardnersamy_: Then report back with the results.  Whether or not that fixes it, there will be more to do.17:54
samy_xfwm4-Message: Another Window Manager (Xfwm4) is already running on screen :0.017:54
samy_xfwm4-Message: To replace the current window manager, try "--replace"17:54
samy_xfwm4-Message: Another Window Manager (Xfwm4) is already running on screen :0.017:54
samy_xfwm4-Message: To replace the current window manager, try "--replace"17:54
samy_another..17:54
samy_(xfwm4:2783): xfwm4-WARNING **: Could not find a screen to manage, exiting17:55
samy_http://prikachi.com/images/553/6257553K.png17:55
samy_http://prikachi.com/images/553/6257553K.png17:55
samy_here is screens17:55
bgardnersamy_: That looks like your issue is mostly already resolved.  Do you just need to know how to unmaximize windows now?17:56
samy_i click17:56
samy_maximalize17:56
samy_and cant see17:56
samy_navigation buttons :D17:56
samy_he is out of screen17:56
samy_:D17:56
samy_he is somewhere in workspace17:57
bgardnersamy_: Which navigation buttons do you mean?17:57
samy_close17:57
samy_minimalize17:57
samy_after click maxilimaze he is go under workspace17:58
samy_and i cant see17:58
samy_this buttons17:58
samy_:<17:58
bgardnersamy_: Can you maximize the window and take another screenshot?17:58
samy_ok i show u17:59
samy_google chrome for sample17:59
samy_in maximalize17:59
samy_http://prikachi.com/images/596/6257596g.png18:01
samy_see18:01
samy_:<18:01
samy_cant seee workspace tray18:01
samy_and opened apps18:01
samy_I like to maximize the window below tray line..18:02
bgardnersamy_: Close Chrome so you can get at the panel, then right click on the panel and choose Panel->Panel Preferences.18:03
bgardnersamy_: Make sure "Don't reserver space on borders" is NOT checked.18:03
bgardner*reserve18:03
samy_okay18:04
samy_that is :D18:04
samy_loollllllllll18:04
samy_im sooo stupid18:04
samy_:<18:04
bgardnersamy_: And does it work the way you want now?18:04
samy_how to allocate started applications in workshops18:05
samy_that work18:05
samy_that is18:05
bgardnersamy_: I don't understand your last question, could you rephrase it?18:05
samy_how to send started applications in other workspace?18:06
koegsright click on the title bar of the app18:06
samy_how to split started programs between workspaces?18:10
koegswhat?18:14
samy_i want split started programs between workspaces18:17
samy_drag and drop dont work18:18
koegswhat do you mean by "split"18:18
samy_transfer..18:19
samy_how to transfer any program to other workspace18:19
samy_:)18:19
koegsSettings Manager -> Window Manager -> Advanced -> "Wrap workspaces when dragging a windows off the screen"18:19
masadfghello everyone! my colordepth is set to 16, and the gradient color on the background appear banding, i cannot find any xorg.conf to change colordepth? What should i do?18:40
masadfgdoes xubuntu use xorg at all?18:43
krytarik!xorg.conf | masadfg18:45
ubottumasadfg: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.18:45
Unit193masadfg: Of course it does, but what card do you have?18:45
krytariksamy_, please see what koegs has suggested above, in addition to using the window menu that he suggested before, and also, here is a complete list of available options: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/getting-stated#move_a_window_to_another_workspace18:48
samy_oooo18:49
samy_krytarik18:49
samy_thank you for link18:49
krytarikWelcome.18:50
samy_jajajajajaj18:51
samy_i looooooove linux18:51
krytariklol18:51
samy_right now install shared printer18:51
samy_:))))))))))18:51
samy_its too easy18:51
samy_i use linux on three days18:52
samy_I love it!18:52
krytariksamy_, some documentation for self-studying here: http://docs.xfce.org/start , https://help.ubuntu.com/18:56
samy_I will keep them in my bookmarks18:58
samy_thank you again18:58
krytarikYup.18:58
feisarHi, I have just install xubuntu 13.04, is it ok to install Nautilus? I have read that it will cause conflicts19:03
pleia2I have it installed without issue, what conflicts are you worried/read about?19:04
feisarit was just one comment on a blog, I just wanted to check19:04
feisarI'm setting up ubuntu for a friend who used to use Unity and 12.04 but 13.04 Unity is not usable so I thought I try xubuntu which is nice but nautilus might have a bit better functionality19:06
krytarikfeisar, just don't expect it to work that easily on handling your desktop, but other than that, it's fairly simple, as pleia2 said.19:06
feisar(specifically thinking of Dropbox)19:06
feisarthanks, what do you mean handling my desktop?19:06
krytarikYou should keep Thunar handling it, otherwise it's quite cumbersome to make Nautilus work there.19:07
feisarah ok, do you know if Dropbox works alright?19:08
feisar(with Thunar)19:08
krytarikI think I've heard so.19:08
feisarok well I'll give it a go19:09
feisarcheers19:09
krytarikBye.19:09
koegsno problem with dropbox in xubuntu19:09
feisaroh good19:09
sp00kyanyone around?19:13
krytarik!ask | sp00ky19:14
ubottusp00ky: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:14
krytarikIn other words, yes, some are. :P19:16
sp00kyheh'19:16
sp00kyalright19:16
sp00kyso I think I may have a major problem19:16
sp00kyI use dpkg to install an application19:16
sp00kythen after that I ran apt-get -f install to resolve dependencies for that application19:17
sp00kythen I notice that while this is running I see that xubuntu-desktop is one of the applications that it has removed19:18
journeemanHi. Is there a port of librt (Real-time library) for Ubuntu? I am unable to find in the official repos.19:18
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sp00kyany ideas on how I can fix this?19:19
journeemanI am using Xubuntu 13.04.19:20
Unit193sp00ky: What application?  I don't see why it'd conflict with the metapackage, did it remove anything else?19:20
sp00kyUnit193, yes, can I pm you everything else since I don't want to flood the channel?19:21
Unit193!pastebin19:21
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sp00kyUnit193, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5796398/19:22
koegssp00ky: what did you try to install with dpkg?19:24
sp00kykoegs, PeaZip19:24
Unit193OK, I don't really see much in there to worry about, xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.  Why not use the one in repos?19:24
sp00kyI did aptitude search peazip and didn't come up with anything19:25
Sysijourneeman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/88545019:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 885450 in gcc-defaults (Ubuntu) "Cannot load librt.so " [Undecided,Confirmed]19:26
sp00kyso removing that meta-package doesn't mean that xfce will be gone when I reboot?19:26
Unit193Ah, I was thinking of the package p7zip in the repos, my bad.  No, it won't be all gone, I no longer have that package either.19:27
sp00kyalright cool, I freaked out when I saw that19:27
SysiI think p7zip would do all the same that peazip19:28
krytariksp00ky, make sure it's installed when doing an in-place upgrade though.19:28
krytarikVersion upgrade, that is.19:29
Unit193krytarik: Always re-installs when I do a do-release-upgrade, but good note!19:29
krytarikUnit193, yeah, me too, but. :)19:29
Sysiyou maybe shouldn't install deps with -f19:30
sp00kySysi, why's that?19:30
Sysiyou might break something19:31
Sysidependency hell or something like that19:32
journeemanSysi, thank you. :)19:41
xubuntu898Hi guys. Is there any reason why the XUbuntu 12.04 Alternate is not a part of the Universal USB installer on Windows?19:58
Sysino idea, universal usb installer has pretty much nothing to do with ubuntu project AFAIK19:59
xubuntu898Ah alright. What would you suggest for installation then besides burning the ISO to a CD? - Seeing that I'm out.20:00
Sysiunetbootin or linux live usb creator (because bitcopy is a nuisance on windows)20:01
Sysibitcopy is the most reliable way with alternate image20:02
xubuntu898I actually tried to load up the image in LLUC, and it says that it can probably do it. Just wanted to check first.20:02
xubuntu898I'll try LLUC and otherwise the alternatives. Thank you.20:04
David-Axubuntu898: the Alternate versions use a simpler install process. I doubt they can run as live systems from a cd or usb thumb. (Universal USB, Unetbootin and USB-creator are meant to make live systems on an usb)20:06
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xubuntu898David-A: It did boot from LLUC with the alternate image20:19
xubuntu898I'll get to the installation tomorrow however20:19
David-Axubuntu898: what is LLUC?20:22
xubuntu898linux live usb creator20:38
xubuntu898Gotta run. Thanks for your time.20:38
SysiDavid-A: they don't run live but you can run debian installer from usb too, but the difference makes the simple tools a bit unreliable20:39
Sysidd(bitcopy) has always worked20:40
DistrotHey guys, really dumb question: Can I use GParted on my Xubuntu Live CD to enlarge my swap partition? I'm running a little low on memory and have oodles of GB at my disposal.21:32
Sysisure you can21:33
DistrotOk. It can install from the Software Center onto the Live CD then?21:33
SysiI think it's there by defauult, but you can do that too21:34
DistrotOh ok. Thanks!21:36
David-ADistrot: multiple swap partitions are allowed, so an alternative to resizing an existing swap is to add new swap partitions. you can also add swap-FILES if you also have oodles of free gb in your file system.21:40
xubuntu861hi22:25
ObrienDaveyes?22:26
SKYLAKE-10nmhi grawity22:35

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