[00:41] <cjohnston> I know I'm quite late to the conversation, but what I read was that if you enable nightlies and enable some other things, you can finally get to the point where FF has some of the features that other browsers have had for years... sounds awesome
[00:46] <cjohnston> oddly enough, I just got a message in FF that 'Firefox sends data to Mozilla.' and a button to change my settings... oddly enough, all the check boxes for sending stuff to Mozilla are checked by default. Doesn't sound very private to me
[05:47] <bkerensa> cjohnston: are you running nightly? FHR is enabled by default on nightly because its a dev release but telemetry is not.
[05:48] <bkerensa> cjohnston: Indeed Chrome. Chromium and other browsers do enable such features by default on all their releases but thats because they lack privacy
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[10:44] <daker> cjohnston: 13years to fix this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52500
[10:44] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 52500 in Layout: Form Controls "Make regular CSS properties apply on <input type='file'>" [Minor,Resolved: fixed]
[10:49] <cjohnston> heh
[10:55] <daker> cjohnston: there is more, 13years not yet fixed :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33654
[10:55] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 33654 in Layout: Form Controls "TEXTAREA incorrectly applying ROWS= and COLS=" [Normal,New]
[11:03] <cjohnston> :-/
[11:52]  * popey hugs jcastro 
[12:01] <jcastro> what up popey
[12:11] <popey> nowt
[13:42] <cjohnston> mhall119: what's the chance you could talk to the LP team ~today about BP subscribers so that we can get this ball rolling?
[13:50] <mhall119> I pinged wgrant after we talked last,but never got a reponse
[13:51] <mhall119> well, I got a response that they'd have to investigate, but then didn't tell me how to make sure it was on their task list
[14:11] <cjohnston> file a bug
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, ready when you are
[16:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 will be two mins
[16:01] <dpm> jono, no worries
[16:34] <dholbach> jono, I'll update the social networks about the weekly update - are you going to kick off the hangout on air?
[16:35] <jono> dholbach, yep
[16:35] <jono> thanks
[16:35] <dholbach> perfect
[17:49] <dholbach> all right my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow :)
[17:58] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1h1urn/ubuntu_weekly_update_25th_june_2013_lots_of_good/
[18:55] <jcastro> jono: I didn't know you submitted for Ohio LF
[18:55] <jcastro> I also submitted a linux talk
[18:55] <jcastro> errr, juju talk
[19:26] <jono> jcastro, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BqudwP9q0s
[19:27] <jcastro> jono: see the comment I just left you on G+
[19:28] <jcastro> jono: hey so aaron from berkley was driving through town so he stayed here for a night
[19:28] <jcastro> you won't believe his hobby when not playing metal guitar
[19:28] <jcastro> traditional flamenco guitar
[19:28] <jcastro> !!!
[19:28] <jono> jcastro, hah, nice!
[19:29] <jcastro> jono: can you actually switch to spotify at some point so we can do collaborative playlists?
[19:29] <jcastro> I've got 165 songs in my bacon list already
[19:29] <jono> jcastro, lol
[19:29] <jono> I tend to keep things simple and just use youtube :-)
[19:29] <jcastro> https://www.spotify.com/uk/freetrial/
[19:29] <jono> I have already training a radio station on Pandora :-)
[19:29] <jcastro> yeah but you can't say "I want this song right now" on pandora
[19:30] <jcastro> it's nice for background stuff, don't get me wrong
[19:57] <mhall119> jono: one thing I meant ot ask during our one-on-one today, have you had a chance to talk to Pat about making a decision on the email client?
[19:58] <jono> mhall119, I haven't yet
[19:58] <jono> can you ping him directly?
[19:58] <mhall119> sure
[21:28] <popey> cjohnston: does bug 1029443 still affect you?
[21:28] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1029443 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[gm45] False GPU lockup EIR: 0x00000010 PGTBL_ER: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x79050004" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029443
[21:32] <popey> nvm, found an option to possibly fix in a dupe
[22:05] <jcastro> hey jono
[22:05] <jcastro> hey jono
[22:05] <jono> jcastro, hey
[22:05] <jcastro> WELCOME TO THE FUN PALACE
[22:05] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[22:05] <jcastro> so like these guy's riffs are monster
[22:05] <jcastro> why anthrax over these guys as the big 4?
[22:08] <jono> jcastro, Jeff Waters was a nutter I think
[22:08] <jono> I used to be friends with him
[22:08] <jono> he is the guitarist
[22:08] <jono> well, I used to be very loose friends years ago
[22:09] <jono> Jim from Severed Fifth knows him well, he recorded a Defiance album with him
[22:09] <bkerensa> jcastro: juju with lxc fixed? :)
[22:09] <jono> but they never quite broke out of Canada
[22:09] <jcastro> bkerensa: no son, next month man
[22:09] <bkerensa> jcastro: kk
[22:09] <jcastro> bkerensa: need containers to work for that to work, see my last blog post
[22:09] <jcastro> those are almost done
[22:09] <jcastro> month after is local
[22:09] <bkerensa> ah
[22:09] <jcastro> then ssh provider
[22:09] <bkerensa> I need to catch up on e-mail and blog reading :s
[22:09] <jcastro> then I expect you and alan to never bother me again
[22:09] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:10] <jcastro> tldr, by the end of the summer you can run a full wordpress charm stack on a digital ocean $9 a month VPS
[22:10] <jcastro> or you get to flame me
[22:10] <jcastro> hey so any of you guys fire up some bison meat before?
[22:10] <jcastro> I found this service, door to door organics
[22:11] <jcastro> and they do bison meat
[22:11] <bkerensa> hmm
[22:11] <jcastro> so I ordered me some thunderbeast chuck to make some burgers
[22:11] <bkerensa> I have never grilled bison but it sounds like it might be greasy
[22:11] <bkerensa> I could be wrong
[22:11] <jcastro> bison is supposed to be real lean afaict
[22:11] <bkerensa> I still need to learn a protip on doing meat with lots of fat
[22:12] <bkerensa> it tends to drip on my grill and cause fire
[22:12] <bkerensa> :(
[22:12] <bkerensa> ^ jono  whats the protip
[22:12] <bkerensa> Pork and Ribs seem to cause epic grease fires
[22:12] <jcastro> close the lid dude
[22:13] <jcastro> it can't flare without oxygen
[22:13] <jcastro> if you're grilling and not smoking just close the lid and regulate the oxygen
[22:14] <jcastro> My stuff burns at like ~400 degrees with no flames, 4 minutes a side
[22:14] <jcastro> that's what I do for pork, bison not sure, going to start at 3.5 minutes and see what happens
[22:15] <bkerensa> hmm
[22:15] <jono> bkerensa, what kind of meat?
[22:15] <bkerensa> Pork and Ribs
[22:15] <jono> you grill ribs?
[22:15] <bkerensa> Chops and Beef Ribs specifically
[22:15] <bkerensa> jono: oh yes... they came out quite nice
[22:15] <jono> I only ever smoke pork and ribs
[22:16] <jono> and I have a water bowl between the fire and the meat
[22:16] <jcastro> jono: have you tried bison yet?
[22:16] <jono> bkerensa, if you don't want to smoke ribs, I recommend you pinwheel them and put them in a slowcooker
[22:16] <jono> and use liquid smoke
[22:16] <jono> jcastro, yup
[22:17] <jono> bkerensa, you can also do them in foil containers
[22:17] <jcastro> jono: sitting in my fridge right now, but jill isn't home yet so I haven't opened it, lean or fatty?
[22:17] <bkerensa> jono: Yeah I think next time I will slow cook them... I will probably try pork ribs next time... The beef ribs meat was not enough
[22:17] <jcastro> I was just going to make bison burgers
[22:17] <bkerensa> Burgers! :)
[22:17] <jono> but speaking personally, I would never grill ribs or pork...pork needs to be cooked low and slow to help the collagen break down
[22:17] <jono> jcastro, generally pretty lean if it is good meat
[22:18] <jono> not as good for burgers as you need a higher fat content I think
[22:18] <jono> although I am no bison expert
[22:18] <jcastro> I am experimenting
[22:18] <jcastro> I like bison because they scare the crap out of me
[22:18] <jcastro> so I want to eat one
[22:18] <bkerensa> jono: 2014 CLS Party = Rent Mt. Tabor Park Picnic Area... Bring keg and grills and party
[22:18] <bkerensa> :)
[22:19] <bkerensa> jono: have you ever been up Mt. Tabor btw?
[22:19] <jono> that would be fun
[22:19] <jono> not been there
[22:19] <jono> brb
[22:19] <bkerensa> cheaper than the bar too :P
[22:19] <bkerensa> we had the debian release party there
[22:20] <bkerensa> jcastro: you should go to Mt. Tabor if you get time in your oscon schedule
[22:20] <jcastro> was that the one we went to during ODS?
[22:20] <bkerensa> nah
[22:20] <jcastro> that place was awesome
[22:20] <bkerensa> Wasnt that Multnomah Falls?
[22:20] <jcastro> dunno, you planned it lol!
[22:20] <bkerensa> Mt. Tabor is a dormant volcano
[22:21] <bkerensa> oh no that was a bar
[22:21] <bkerensa> :P
[22:21] <jcastro> so like my travel drinking plan is pretty simple. People I like as close to where I sleep as possible.
[22:21] <jcastro> that's my plan
[22:21] <bkerensa> jcastro: dcamp it
[22:21] <bkerensa> :)
[22:21] <jcastro> when I am portland I admit my social plan pretty much revolves around dcamp.
[22:22] <bkerensa> hah
[22:22] <bkerensa> I will have to see about inviting him to one of the night parties
[22:22] <jcastro> he's my OSS James Hetfield, what can I say
[22:23] <bkerensa> jcastro: you are going to be at the Doubletree where jono stays right?
[22:23] <jcastro> back in the day when I got started in OSS, Dave Camp was the dude there to teach me how to do things and talk to the right people.
[22:23] <jcastro> hah speaking of legends
[22:24] <jcastro> jono: mako is in ann arbor for like a month to do some MIT/U-M thing
[22:24] <jcastro> probably some hippie thing I don't get
[22:24] <jcastro> going to have him over for a while
[22:24] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://themodernmanpdx.com/
[22:25] <jcastro> bkerensa: dude. For sure. count me in there.
[22:34] <jcastro> hey so ... how should I cook this bison
[22:35] <jcastro> I'm going to do it just like a lean burger I think
[22:35] <daker> HTML5 apps :) https://plus.google.com/101694416703170881163/posts/QfcjPEjrB6F
[22:38] <daker> bkerensa: ^
[22:43] <bkerensa> daker: where is the repo?
[22:43] <bkerensa> I want to peak
[22:43] <bkerensa> peek*
[22:46] <daker> bkerensa: wait, i'll push the last version to the repos https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-html5-theme
[22:57] <jcastro> heya daker
[22:58] <daker> o/
[22:58] <jcastro> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2013/06/20/getting-app-developers-up-and-running-with-infrastructure/
[22:58] <jcastro> so jono had me prototype this
[22:59] <jcastro> and marco improved it
[22:59] <jcastro> I was wondering if you could give it a once over?
[22:59] <jcastro> maybe let us know how to make it better?
[22:59] <jcastro> the idea is to make it so any ubuntu app dev can just get a website in like 2 commands
[23:00] <daker> jcastro: ya sure i'll take a look at it
[23:01] <jono> daker, you rock
[23:03] <jcastro> I am pretty sure we can roll it out as a manual step for them asap
[23:08] <jono> jcastro, yup
[23:09] <jcastro> jono: suckfest, the bison is frozen, so I guess I'll figure it out tomorrow
[23:17] <jono> jcastro, wise
[23:19] <jcastro> jono: so TLDR, we had people over yesterday
[23:20] <jcastro> and someone finally put a knife mark in my Boos block
[23:20] <jcastro> I kind of was happy it was broken in
[23:20] <jcastro> but I also wanted to kind of rip her intestines out
[23:21] <daker> bkerensa: http://people.ubuntu.com/~daker/ubuntu-html5-theme/ambiance/