[00:30] Where is the unofficial toro (most recent) version? | http://askubuntu.com/q/312322 === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === _salem is now known as salem_ === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [01:41] trying manual install of ubuntu touch since I have a windows PC (and not enough room for a ubuntu partition right now) [01:41] not going well [01:42] when I have my device in recovery mode I cannot use the push command [01:42] it gives me "error: closed" [01:43] I can push no problem when booted into android with debug on... but following the steps for manual install in that mode doesnt do anything at all [01:43] anyone able to help? [01:43] TetraFlash, You could use a ubuntu live cd to load it. [01:44] haha thought of that too... cant find a damn blank to save my life [01:44] tried installing ubuntu in virtualbox... that went just as poor... not my day haha [01:45] no usb's? [01:45] TetraFlash: there's adb for Windows as well... [01:46] sergiusens: I am using adb for windows and when my device is recovery mode and I attempt "adb push...." it says "error: closed" [01:46] TetraFlash: oh, can't help with that, but it's sometimes solve by just restarting adb [01:47] wilee-nilee: none... I was really hoping the manual method would work for me [01:47] sergiusens: I did try that... perhaps a system restart could help [01:48] im going to try a system reboot for the adb driver I installed... perhaps that will help [01:56] when is the consumer ubuntu touch image set to release | http://askubuntu.com/q/312347 [02:09] hellO EVERYONE [02:09] I AM HAVING A modem [02:09] which is working properly but i am unable to send USSD [02:09] and check my balance [02:09] how to do that [02:12] kalakj, you can't... USSD functions have not been implemented yet. [02:13] ahhh, this should be there for prepaid customers [02:13] when there is meter on your internet usage [02:13] yes, I know [02:13] it will be in the final product [02:14] but probably won't be available in our images till sometime later this Summer === CEnnis91_ is now known as CEnnis91 [02:39] sergiusens: thanks === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:49] good morning [07:11] how to install ubuntu in galaxy s3 T- Mobile [07:12] anyone plz tell me. how to install ubuntu in galaxy s3 T- Mobile? [07:13] I'm not sure if that's been ported? [07:14] usman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices is the wiki page you're looking for. [07:52] Hmm, flipped image 20130624 on mako has no network on first boot... works on second boot [07:57] Good morning all! :) [08:42] I think ubuntu touch is what I am after, or do I want ubuntu arm? [08:42] ZTE V9 is the device [08:43] phix: Depends on what you're after. Do you want a phone operating system? [08:45] I want Ubuntu on my tablet, I want it to work :) Don't really care if it is the full blown Ubuntu or a stripped down version, aslong as it works :) [08:47] I don't really want to make phone calls on it if that is the question, I want to use it more as a desktop [08:47] Then you want the arm builds of regular desktop Ubuntu. [08:47] Until we've got more of the phone-tablet-desktop convergency bit happening :) [08:48] ah ok, is that in the mix? [08:49] RAOF: Which version will run better on a lower powered / resourced tablet? [08:50] Well, Ubuntu Touch is not like a desktop at all. [08:50] So it's difficult to really make any comparisons :) [08:53] 512Mb ROM, 512Mb RAM, 2Gb SD, ARMv6 rev 5 (399 bogomips lol) 7" TFT Resistive touch screen [08:54] RAOF: I supose my question was more of which verison will run faster on a crappier tablet === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:55] thats not a spectacular set of specs phix [08:55] armv6? I'm not sure we actually support that architecture. [08:55] popey: IKnow [08:55] ah ok, so it is arm 7 and above? [08:55] yes [08:55] ok, that's all I really wanted to know :) === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [09:00] phix: thanks for dropping by [09:03] Any time popey [09:03] hey, I have a QML question: [09:03] Are there any signal available when "ToolbarItems.back" is triggered? For ToolbarActions.back there was onTriggered() [09:03] popey: I am considering getting a nexus 10 and assist in testing and development if possible [09:04] phix: that would be awesome, I don't think as many people test on the Nexus 10 as the Nexus 4 and nexus 7.. so that would be very helpful === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben [10:11] popey, do you happen to run a flipped image on your N4 ? [10:11] * ogra_ is looking for /var/log/udev and /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules from such an install [10:12] yes [10:12] ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798095/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798096/ [10:12] thx ! [10:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trbtVeUj664&hd=1 === tvoss is now known as tvoss|quick_lunc === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === ara is now known as Guest5314 [11:31] mehow: ping [11:58] Error while executing standard Ubuntu Touch program | http://askubuntu.com/q/312507 === tvoss|quick_lunc is now known as tvoss === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:36] Is a nook reader app for ubuntu touch being developed? | http://askubuntu.com/q/312522 === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [13:09] popey: are you in the mood for some testing :) ? [13:11] or mhall119? [13:12] nik90: always! [13:13] popey: Awesome :D [13:13] popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/new-timer-design [13:13] popey: please check if the bug you reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1186396 is fixed [13:13] Launchpad bug 1186396 in Ubuntu Clock App "[Clock app] Timer setting inaccurate when spun at speed" [Medium,In progress] [13:13] k === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:14] hmm, well this is sub-optimal. _all_ of the icons in the apps lens are blank [13:14] and no text under them [13:15] * popey updates and upgrades and reboots [13:20] * nik90 waits eagerly for good news [13:21] yeah, icons are back ☻ === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [13:22] * popey adds bzr to his post-install script [13:26] nik90: so, i rotate to start a time, and then hit the middle to start the timer? [13:26] yes [13:27] hmm [13:27] you might want to prevent people changing the time while the timer is running ☻ [13:28] popey: yes, I removed that code and still need to add that bit [13:28] nik90: it's supposed to clock up hours when rotating? [13:28] popey: not yet atleast. [13:29] it only clocks hours, not minutes or seconds [13:29] popey: I am not sure if that is still required with the new visual designs [13:29] let me get a video [13:30] popey: do you mean that if you set a timer for 04:30 it does not change the minutes but only the seconds? [13:30] Hello ubuntu-touch, I think I've done some bad things to my amd64 Saucy install and I would need a hand. It doesn't boot : it's now apparently trying to mount an android FS and (obviously) fails with "No root device found. Spawning adbd ..." [13:31] nik90: easier to show you, uploading video now [13:31] davidcalle, sounds like you installed initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch [13:32] davidcalle, remove it in recovery mode, rebuild your initrd and you should be fine [13:32] ogra_: where do you guys switch ramdisks in the android boot image (if that's what you do to the ones generated by the android build system) ? [13:33] we dont switch ramdisks :) [13:33] rsalveti: you're such a lier - the missing icons are still there after flashing just now ;-p [13:33] the ubuntu initrd is used to normally boot the ubuntu rootfs [13:33] with only minor difference to a laptop or desktop install ... [13:33] FunkyPenguin: i just had missing image, so I "adb shell" and then "apt-get update" then "apt-get upgrade" and "reboot" and it's all good again [13:34] then ubuntu fires up an pxc container on boot which contains the whole android system (including the initrd) [13:34] ogra_, recovery mode fails to go to the point where it would give me a cli, but I have another partition here. /me chroots and tries [13:34] okay, so let me rephrase it - where is the boot image assembled? (android kernel + ubuntu initrd = boot.img ?) [13:35] nik90: http://youtu.be/LZspoyLsuqc it'll be there in ~3 mins or so [13:35] popey: okay. will take a look [13:35] cdesai, during image build [13:35] nik90: will do a video on the nexus 7 too in a moment [13:35] cdesai, and yes, bootimg is exactly that [13:36] cdesai, i'm working on a package containing a prebuilt generic initrd that can be used by porters [13:36] ogra_: are the tools used to build the image open source? (I guess, if so, can you provide me with a launchpad link?) [13:36] ogra_: yea that's what I wanted it for, porting :) [13:37] and that will be integrated into the android boot.img creation process of phablet.ubuntu.com [13:39] cdesai, the image creation infrastructure of ubuntu is quite complex (it builds all images of all possible supported ubuntu variants) ... essentially the touch images are built by live-build with configs that live in the livecd-rootfs package ... the whole thing is managed by cdimage (look it up on LP, there is a bzr branch for it) [13:39] the former two are packaged, you can just apt-get source them [13:40] to just roll an initrd you can just use a chroot though [13:40] nik90: http://youtu.be/7x6g5tRtNBw is the video for the nexus 7, again will take some minutes to upload [13:40] or just wait til tomottow, then i should have the initrd packaged [13:41] I'll wait then, don't have ubuntu installed currently [13:42] popey: just saw your nexus 4 video. What I observed is that while trying to grab the hour hand, the upward animation steals it sometimes [13:42] awe: ping [13:42] yes [13:42] popey: that can be fixed easily [13:43] hard to grab the hand too [13:43] popey: however I do agree that the hand itself is small [13:43] imagine trying to grab the seconds hand [13:43] :) [13:43] hah [13:43] i want a timer to measure picoseconds! [13:43] make an appropriately sized hand please! :D [13:44] I have already informed the designers about this. Let see what solution we can come up with this thursday meeting [13:44] morphis, hey... can we chat a little later? I have ~1hr or so before our stand-up and I need to get some stuff done. Can I ping you when I'm done? [13:45] thanks ogra_ [13:45] np [13:45] awe: yes, but have a meeting around one hour from now myself so lets say in 2-3 hours? [13:45] ok nik90 [13:45] morphis, sure [13:46] popey: something is wrong with the nexus 7 video [13:46] cannot play it ... video length is 0 seconds [13:47] hmm [13:47] still processing nik90 [13:47] ah [13:48] nik90: works now [13:49] is there a way to change the area of a Page in QML to having a text entry box or such? [13:59] sergiusens: what do I do in this case? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798586/ :) [13:59] unfortunately it now tells me "error: device not found" - but I didn't change anything [14:03] dholbach: what's currectly installed? [14:06] ogra_, just managed to work things out, I had other issues on top of the android initramfs, thanks for the pointer :) === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [14:08] sergiusens: saucy-23 [14:09] dholbach: do an adb kill-server [14:10] I thought I was catching that exception though... I'll double check later [14:10] aha! trying that [14:10] thanks [14:10] sergiusens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798620/ [14:11] popey: two things, apt-get upgrade results in no new packages; and i called ricardo out as he said it would be fixed in the new image ;) [14:11] FunkyPenguin: worked for me ☻ [14:12] popey: well whoopdeedoo for you :) [14:13] dholbach: dumb question, but did your device get unplugegd? :-P [14:13] sergiusens: no, it also has enough battery, it just blanked screen in the meantime [14:14] FunkyPenguin: ☻ === jrgifford__ is now known as jrgifford === jrgifford is now known as Guest98593 [14:16] dholbach: what if you adb kill-server; sudo adb start-server ? [14:17] sergiusens: same [14:17] dholbach: reboot the device? === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [14:19] sergiusens: same :-/ [14:19] jdstrand, so i finally got around to do a fresh install on my maguro ... /etc/apparmor.d/cache is still empty after a few reboots [14:20] weird [14:20] mako was fine. let me try grouper === nik90_ is now known as nik90 [14:20] dholbach: is your cable working at all? [14:21] sergiusens: it worked fine when I flashed the device this morning - it's maybe 2-3 weeks old :) [14:21] syslog show the partser running for NM when it brings up an interface and i see some relepathy related lines too [14:21] *parser [14:21] *telepathy [14:21] (god, my typing ...) [14:22] ogra_: yeah, that sounds right if the cache files don't exist [14:22] ogra_: is this supposed to work: phablet-flash -d grouper --flipped [14:22] I'm getting a 404 [14:22] yes [14:22] ok, tried again, and it is working (weird) [14:23] well, it should try to pull from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [14:23] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com//ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip was what failed, but tried again and it worked [14:24] might just have been replaced that moment [14:24] the build just finished [14:25] ogra_: I don't have a maguro. on the device, can you do: /etc/init.d/apparmor reload and then see if cache files exist in /etc/apparmor.d/cache? [14:26] jdstrand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798667/ [14:26] there we go [14:27] * ogra_ kind of knew it was a kernel issue :) [14:27] ogra_: ok, pull requests went out earlier today which once applied will fix that [14:28] k [14:28] ogra_: I guess the mako kernel sans compat patches had just enough for caching to work, but the 3.0 kernel didn't [14:29] yeah [14:29] that should make booting a lot more pleasant :) [14:29] i.e. you wont have to burn your hand anymore :) [14:30] ok, good, mystery solved then. if this is slowing down your work-- you can just remove the apparmor package [14:30] hehe, yes! :) [14:30] nah, my work is to stabilize that crack :) [14:30] (please only remove apparmor in your local system, not the image :) [14:30] i want to see it start working :) [14:30] hehe [14:38] how to transfer files from galaxy nexus running ubuntu? | http://askubuntu.com/q/312566 [14:49] hey folks [14:49] wehere ca i get a virtual machine with ubuntu mobile? [14:50] somehow lost [14:50] you cant yet [14:50] so how to develop apps? [14:51] a bit weird since theyre site ist cluttered with the phone os [14:52] heythere, you can develop apps on the desktop to some good extent using the sdk [14:52] hm, ok === CEnnis91_ is now known as CEnnis91 === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [15:05] popey: I have increased the grab area for the clock hand. So they remain the same size (for now) but have increased their grab area. So it should be much better now. [15:05] popey: http://ubuntuone.com/3oZj9gkYOi99yJSyVPHtjz [15:06] popey: I havent pushed it yet. I will think about it more. In the screenshot, the lightgreen spots represents the area you can grab on for each clock hand [15:06] nik90: nice one [15:06] nik90: let me know what you want me to test ☻ [15:07] popey: definitely :) [15:25] rtg_, did the latest maguro upload have a fix for ureadahead ? [15:25] ogra_, nope, forgot. I just started looking at it a few minutes ago. [15:26] ok [15:26] ogra_, which one is maguro? Samsung or LG ? [15:26] samsun omap :) [15:26] +g [15:27] the frankenphone :) [15:28] ogra_, I got this phone from Ivanka, so it is likely the 3G image from Android ? [15:28] its toast right now. [15:28] toast ? how ? [15:29] tried flashing, but wouldn't boot the touch image. I'm back to fastboot [15:29] that was a few weeks ago and I never got back to it === zumbi_ is now known as Guest82596 === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|lunch [15:57] didrocks: on apps stack the check job failed with one failure on one machine, looks like a flacky test - I would opt for a publish anyway if you don't mind, the usual thing [15:57] didrocks: since oSoMoN is not around today it seems [15:57] sil2100: fine with me, please note it down so that we can poke him :) [16:01] mhall119: hi! so I have a work item: ubuntu-calculator-app runs under application isolation using aa-exec in the .desktop file via Debian packaging [16:02] mhall119: I have a modest change to its packaging to achieve that, but wasn't sure how to go about it [16:02] mhall119: like, how to get it into right ppa, etc [16:02] jdstrand: not sure how to change it, or how to submit the change? [16:03] mhall119: I can produce a debdiff/merge fine, but not sure to where and then how to get it into the necessary ppa to have it show up on the image [16:03] jdstrand: if you can submit an MP to the bzr branch that would be better: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app [16:03] it has inline packaging [16:04] mhall119: assuming the MP is accepted, what is the next step to get it onto an image? [16:05] mhall119: well, all the images :) [16:05] jdstrand: once the MP is approved, everything else is automatic [16:05] mhall119: awesome. was I right in coming to you? [16:06] jenkins will land it in trunk and build it in the PPA, and the daily device image script will pull the latest package on the next run [16:06] jdstrand: yup, me or popey for the core apps [16:06] mhall119: great, thanks! [16:06] np [16:09] \o/ [16:11] mhall119: my MP is saucy specific, is that a problem? [16:12] (currently using a versioned Build-Depends-- I could relax that and just wait for the right version to end up in saucy if that makes things easier) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:20] nik90: do you have a branch in progress for bug 1188800 ? [16:20] bug 1188800 in Ubuntu Clock App "Autopilot Testcase needed: Add timer preset" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1188800 === Aww_ is now known as EvilAww [16:28] awe: I have time now [16:29] morphis, I'll ping you in a few... I just started another IRC conv with someone. ;)- [16:30] :) [16:38] hello, what's the password of root in terminal? [16:42] popey: I had a local branch for that bug, however due to the new visual design changes made, I did not plan on pushing my local branch for review. [16:43] popey: I guess I need to mark it Triaged until I get my other branches reviewed and merged in [16:43] anyone have ubuntu running on a Galaxy tab? [16:44] nik90: i was oing to take a look at it [16:44] *going [16:45] popey: its not going be easy since the toolbar API has also changed. So any autopilot test you write which uses them will become invalid very soon. [16:45] popey: That's why I have been postponing that particular bug for almost 2 weeks now. [16:45] yeah. will look at another app.. ☻ [16:45] popey: :-) [16:47] ogra_, ping [16:48] yo [16:48] hey.. I pushed my socket MR, however I'm seeing odd behavior [16:48] was just discussing with jodh [16:48] ofono starts, gets a socket failure, and exits [16:49] is respawned once... gets a socket failure and exits again [16:49] and then is never respawned a third time [16:49] and on and on ? [16:49] however upstart thinks it's running [16:49] oh [16:50] http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#expect probably [16:50] ogra_, in theory, on and on, and on... although we could craft a respawn limit which terminates after some point [16:50] ogra_, don't think so [16:50] in the good case, upstart has the correct PID for ofono [16:50] which means expect is correct [16:50] no forsk or anything ? [16:51] ofono just calls daemon(), which AFAIK, does a single fork on Linux [16:51] *forks [16:51] and the job has "expect fork" not "expect daemon" [16:51] yeah, sounds okayish [16:52] so was wondering how I go about starting upstart with --debug so that we can track this down? [16:53] http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging [16:53] like that ? [16:56] ogra_, according to jodh --debug and --verbose both work, but you get more output with --debug [16:56] abootimg -u /part/to/boot/partition -c "cmdline=--verbose" [16:56] (or --debug) [16:57] that sets the option on kernel cmdline [16:57] note that on grouper the boot partition is called LNX [16:57] ogra_: does that blank the rest of the options or just add --verbose to the existing options? [16:57] (in case you test on one) [16:57] ogra_, just testing on maguro [16:57] so i run that command, then reboot? [16:57] jodh, it gets sled in between the hardcoded bootloader and kernel default options [16:58] what's the boot partition on maguro [16:58] jodh, by default our boot.img cmdline is empty [16:58] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# find /dev -name *boot* [16:58] /dev/disk/by-name/boot [16:58] /dev/disk/by-partlabel/boot [16:58] awe, ^^ pick one :) [17:00] so 'abootimg -u /dev/disk/by-name/boot -c "cmdline=--debug" [17:00] right [17:01] ogra_: I shake fist at http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57221 [17:01] gcc.gnu.org bug 57221 in libgcc "[4.8/4.9 regression] libgcc symbol visibility changes break Android blobs" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [17:01] lovely [17:02] ogra_, works! And to clear, I just re-run the command with -c ""? [17:02] with -c "cmdline=" [17:02] ogra_, ack [17:04] xnox, so we need that backported i guess [17:04] ogra_: i started to eliminate libraries which work/don't work when replaced from linaro-4.8 build. and hit up libc and then quickly found that. [17:05] ogra_, think I figured out maguro ureadahead problem, what are the magic runes for flashing a maguro kernel ? [17:05] ogra_: i'll try rebuilding linaro toolchain with that patch included, and hopefully get to fully booting gcc-4.8 based build. [17:05] ogra_: then it should be ready to be packaged.... [17:06] rtg_, abootimg -u /dev/disk/by-name/boot -k /path/to/zImage [17:06] ogra_, thanks [17:06] xnox, yay [17:07] I've been working on an updated UI using a page stack for the File Manager, and am about to submit it to be reviewed. Is there anyone I should I request it to be reviewed by in the Reviewer field? [17:08] morphis, ping [17:08] awe: pong [17:08] thanks for adding the analysis to the SMS bug. [17:08] no problem [17:08] any ideas on the double-free? [17:09] it works fine for me, and the existing code works as well [17:09] I'd rather understand the crash first before trying to work around it [17:10] awe: still hadn't time to reproduce it after we talked last time [17:10] ok [17:10] ogra_, are you sure ? there is no /dev/disk in my image (in either android or ubuntu) [17:10] but I would say I should do that and try to play with the contraints [17:11] like --enable-optimizations/disable-optimizations configure switch [17:11] rtg_, oh, are you still on unflipped ? [17:11] awe: which image are you using? [17:11] saucy based? [17:11] likely. should I reflash ? [17:11] yes [17:11] flipped/unflipped? [17:11] rtg_, find /dev -name *boot* [17:11] mostly flipped [17:11] as we're trying to switch this week [17:11] rtg_, its puried deeper in android [17:12] *buried [17:12] awe: ok, I am here on unflipped [17:12] saucy? [17:12] ogra_, block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/by-name/boot ? [17:12] yeah [17:12] morphis, I'm also building in a pbuilder chroot as well... [17:12] hm [17:13] so you're doing package builds? [17:13] I am currently compiling on the device [17:14] awe: btw. you saw the Mer people already have SIM PIN/PUK functionality? === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [17:14] rtg_, i would recommend to go to flipped soon though, its a lot more convenient to have a plainn ubuntu to work with [17:15] morphis, no I didn't [17:15] that said, it's next on my plate === Tassadar is now known as Guest63898 [17:16] just to get done via command-line [17:16] for now [17:16] the UI won't land till mid-to-late July [17:16] should be enough to either implement it or take the work from the Mer people === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === Guest63898 is now known as tassadar__ === jhodapp|lunch is now known as jhodapp [17:20] morphis, are the Mer people using RILD? [17:20] awe: yes === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [17:21] from us, or separately developed? === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 [17:21] we rebase on your branch once in a while, though we're in git instead, you're free to cherry-pick - all legal/open source [17:22] awe: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/tree/master/ofono [17:22] jdstrand: jenkins will build for quantal, raring and saucy [17:22] jdstrand: is your change only applicable to saucy? [17:23] mhall119: yes, it is [17:23] I forgot there is one other bit that needs to be done that I can't relax the deps on [17:23] meh [17:23] where relaxing the deps doesn't help [17:24] * jdstrand has to adjust the desktop file === Aww_ is now known as EvilAww [17:26] mhall119: I guess I could do a conditional adjustment of the desktop file [17:26] this will go away once we have application lifecycle all together (ie, upstart jobs to launch apps) === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === deegee__ is now known as drussell === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [18:25] rsalveti, minor comments on your IMEI MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-extras/ofono-imei-revision/+merge/171221 [18:26] awe: awesome, thanks [18:26] np [18:27] mhall119: ok, I figured out what to do [18:30] jdstrand: cool, will this be something we can start applying to other core apps and collection apps too? [18:31] awe: just pushed the update [18:31] mhall119: yes. I am going to blog about it once it is merged. I'll give the 'normal' way for uploads to the archive and then how to do it for daily builds with earlier Ubuntu releases [18:32] mhall119: the more we get profiled, the more we can fine-tune [18:33] rsalveti, k [18:46] jdstrand: we'll probably need extra help and guidance with things like the terminal and file manager apps [18:46] s/probably/definitely/ [18:47] mhall119: if we choose to confine those at all, they will likely need to be hand-confined for the forseeable future [18:55] hmmm, I guess if we leave them as "developer mode" installs, confinement isn't necessary [18:57] good learning exercise for everyone if they are [18:57] Hello, got a Nexus 7 that I can't get to boot past bootloader, this following an attempted install of Ubuntu Touch. Any ideas on what I can do? Tried booting to recovery mode and that didn't help either. [18:57] we tend to find holes in the SDK / foundations when we try things like this which are outside the box === hallino1_ is now known as hallino1 [19:00] hello. im trying the manual install for nexus 7. i followed all of the steps and i did a final reboot....so im still on the google logo...how long does it normally take? [19:01] rsalveti, happroved === mterry_ is now known as mterry [19:03] awe: thanks [19:03] np [19:14] herro? [19:16] importing C++/Qt module in QML | http://askubuntu.com/q/312672 [19:20] hello! Can anyone tell me, with which samsung galaxy ubuntu phone will work? I am not very familiar with hardware, just read that ubuntu phone was presented on a samsung galaxy cellphone. [19:21] I'm new to autopilot and am trying to run it for the File Manager app. After about 12 seconds, I get RuntimeError: Unable to find Autopilot interface. What am I doing wrong? Am I missing any packages? [19:21] iBelieve: do you have autopilot from ppa:autopilot/ppa installed? [19:21] (if not that's probably it, right balloons ? ) [19:21] baebbe: see the devices link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch [19:22] nfgfg: doesn't normally take that long [19:22] upsetting :/ its fully unlocked.......ideas? [19:23] popey, I originally installed it without the PPA, then I added the PPA, and ran apt-get update && dist-upgrade. [19:23] iBelieve: apt-cache policy python-autopilot, does it show 1.3 or so? === eexer is now known as nfgfg [19:23]