[00:08] <snap-l> greg-g: At least it isn't an infographic.
[00:47] <snap-l> I always wonder if I'll come up with enough tracks for a show
[00:48] <snap-l> and invariably I find more than I can fit in one show
[01:21] <Chat6500> Ayeeeeeeeeeee
[03:45] <snap-l> Dammit, Blackhawks have the cup
[03:45] <snap-l> nixternal will be insufferable for a year now. :)
[12:19] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:19] <rick_h>  just morning
[12:20] <brousch> rick_h: If it makes you feel better, I was woken up at 5:45 by dogs afraid of the thunder
[12:21] <rick_h> sucky
[12:22] <brousch> We have 2 dogs. One sleeps in a crate and the other sleeps next to it. When thunder starts, the non-crate dog hides in the hallway, leaving the crate dog lonely. She starts yipping and whining until I let her out and sleep downstairs
[12:23] <snap-l> rick_h: I see you got hit by the TWiT smoke detector. ;)
[12:23] <rick_h> dude! I pulled chairs across the house checking all of my detectors!
[12:24] <snap-l> Hahahahhaha. :)
[12:24] <snap-l> Yea, they mentioned it about 20 minutes in
[12:25] <rick_h> of course I'm pulling my tablet along with me and keep listening to the podcast as I chase it down
[12:25] <rick_h> thinking that I can listen as I work...
[12:25] <rick_h> I'm standing up on a chair checking one for the 3rd time when they mention it
[12:29] <brousch> I thought you guys didn't listen to twit
[12:29] <rick_h> I do once in a while. I'm between audio books atm
[12:29] <rick_h> and figured I'd see what the snowden commentary was
[12:30] <snap-l> I listen from time to time whenever I'm doing dishes
[12:30] <snap-l> There's few podcasts that are "OMG, must listen"
[12:30] <snap-l> http://www.kenandrobintalkaboutstuff.com/ is one of them
[12:30] <snap-l> mostly because it's got a severe history bent.
[12:30] <rick_h> yea, it's really my only podcast other than PTI these days. I just do more books than podcasts any more. Doing 2-4 books a month instead
[12:31] <snap-l> PTI == ?
[12:31] <rick_h> pardon the interruption (a sportsball show)
[12:31] <snap-l> Ah, ok
[12:31] <rick_h> espn show I can't watch since I don't have cable so I podcast it
[12:31] <snap-l> I listen to security now on occasion
[12:32] <snap-l> and TWiG from time to time
[12:32] <rick_h> I can't listen to that. Gibson just seems to go on rambling and I can't get into it at all
[12:32] <rick_h> ugh
[12:32] <snap-l> Meh, he makes great background noise.
[12:32] <rick_h> TWiG needs to be blown up and restarted
[12:32] <brousch> No Radio Free Python?
[12:32] <snap-l> Yeah, I don't find myself finishing too many episodes of TWiG
[12:33] <snap-l> Mostly because the latter half of the show is pretty much fodder for the first part of the next show
[12:34] <brousch> For non-geek, I listen to Reasonable Doubts
[12:35] <snap-l> brousch: I'm 1:00 into the latest episode
[12:35] <snap-l> and I want to quit it now
[12:35] <brousch> It's entertaining
[12:36] <snap-l> I'm sure he got clearance for all of the clips on the show. ;)
[12:36] <brousch> Hm, clips?
[12:36] <snap-l> The Monty Python clips
[12:37] <brousch> OH, Radio Free Python
[12:37] <snap-l> Yeah
[12:37] <brousch> He is kind of pompous, but knows Python deeply
[12:38] <snap-l> I find most tech podcasts are a bit wanting if there's not two people on the show
[12:39] <snap-l> and sometimes panel shows can be too much
[12:39] <brousch> He usually has interviews
[12:41] <snap-l> There's only one amateur tech podcast that I listen to all the way through, and that's lococast.net. ;)
[12:42] <snap-l> Sometimes I listen to it several times just to make sure I got everything
[12:46] <brousch> If only they would release more often
[12:46] <brousch> I assume they are working on an 8 hour long mega-show
[12:50] <brousch> New RSS Reader http://reader.aol.com/
[12:50] <snap-l> Oh hell no
[12:50] <brousch> :D
[12:54] <snap-l> brousch: http://spawnfromdeceit1.bandcamp.com/
[12:54] <snap-l> Right up your alley.
[12:54] <brousch> Duck grind?
[12:54] <snap-l> No
[12:55] <brousch> That's all i listen to now
[12:55] <brousch> Duck Grind and Ass Blasters
[12:56] <snap-l> And they let you have children
[13:00] <brousch> Indeed
[13:00] <brousch> As many as I want!
[13:16] <brousch> snap-l: I am enjoying Spawn of Deceit
[13:16] <snap-l> brousch: I thought you might.
[13:24] <brousch> With this standing desk the whole office can see me headbanging
[13:27] <snap-l> hah. :)
[13:39] <brousch> snap-l: I think I like Spawn of Deceit's older album even more
[13:43] <snap-l> brousch: Ah, I'll have to check that one out
[13:44] <snap-l> I got into checking out a band's recommendations, and fortunately they had a lot of CC-music
[13:44] <snap-l> Which is why there's a lot of punk and hardcore in this latest episode
[13:49] <jrwren_> why do people keep dogs in the house when they are so much trouble. I'll never understand it.
[13:50] <rick_h> because good dogs aren't so much trouble :)
[13:50] <jrwren_> about the second night some dog yaps and wakes me up. I'd get rid of it.
[13:51] <jrwren_> By get rid of it, I mean it would no longer be welcome in my house. It can sleep outdoors.
[13:51] <jrwren_> and if I hear barking, it dies.
[13:51] <jrwren_> unless it is barking at a person. intruder detection is nice.
[13:52] <snap-l> I think jrwren_ is a cat person
[13:52] <jrwren_> the funny thing is, i prefer dogs to cats. I just have no tollerance for yappy dogs.
[13:53] <snap-l> So don't get a yappy dog
[13:53] <jrwren_> indeed.
[13:54] <snap-l> I think yappy dogs are also like misbehaving kids
[13:54] <snap-l> if they're not destroying something valuable, they get a pass after a while
[16:02] <snap-l> Well fuck
[16:02] <snap-l> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremygreenfield/2013/06/25/barnes-noble-bows-to-apple-amazon-exits-tablet-business-nook-weighing-bn-down/
[16:33] <AaronThul> wow
[16:33] <AaronThul> I wonder how much they lost on the Nook
[16:34] <rick_h> so their answer is " Nook apps will come pre-loaded on kids-focused Fuhu nabi tablets and also on E FUN Nextbook tablets." w...t...f
[16:35] <rick_h> weren't the closing up the B&N stores and were going to split the nook as the only 'good' part of their business?
[16:55] <snap-l> Well, I think part of it was the nook app store sucked balls
[16:56] <snap-l> So the new tablets couldn't compete with the newer Google offerings
[16:56] <snap-l> which is why they added Google Play to 'em
[16:56] <snap-l> Then they dropped the price by a LOT
[16:58] <greg-g> some days I wish I smoked so I could go out for a cigarette break and walk around
[16:59] <snap-l> greg-g: Just hang out with the smokers.
[16:59] <snap-l> Honestly, they're like little informal decision meetings anyway
[16:59] <greg-g> then I'd end up smoking (or at least smelling like smoke, which is just about as bad, for Carrie/Rowan)
[16:59] <greg-g> 'tis true
[16:59] <snap-l> at least that was what happened at Ford
[16:59] <greg-g> huh
[16:59] <rick_h> greg-g: I just get up and go for a walk and 'take a break' :P
[16:59] <snap-l> was 10x more productive meetings
[16:59] <greg-g> less so here, honestly
[17:00] <greg-g> alright, going for a walk. I'll get enough second hand smoke from being downtown anyways :)
[17:00] <greg-g> "contact high" here I come!
[17:00] <jrwren_> greg-g: just go for a walk. what is the big deal?
[17:00] <snap-l> Oh wait, this is SF, right?
[17:00] <snap-l> So they're going out for a "smoke break"
[17:01] <snap-l> "It's 4:20 somewhere, maaaan"
[17:01] <snap-l> ;)
[17:01] <greg-g> jrwren_: mostly, a person who stands there/sits there by themselves not doing anything but sitting/standing looks weird. The cigarette gives you a purpose
[17:01] <snap-l> greg-g: You could always oogle people.
[17:02] <snap-l> Gives you a purpose, and a creepy factor as well
[17:02] <greg-g> no comment
[17:02]  * greg-g goes
[17:03] <jrwren_> get a camera, take photo breaks.
[17:15] <snap-l> AaronThul: BTW: Don't think you can just sneak in here and not say Hello. :)
[17:15] <snap-l> We've missed you!
[17:16] <AaronThul> I been hiding out in Canada LOL
[17:16] <snap-l> So I've heard
[17:16] <snap-l> Hgoping for a SCOTUS ruling that can help with that
[17:16] <rick_h> AaronThul: hah, I just made an appt to go to canada to have my car worked on
[17:16] <snap-l> not holding my breath though
[17:16] <rick_h> AaronThul: where at?
[17:17] <AaronThul> Vancouver
[17:19] <rick_h> cool
[17:20] <AaronThul> yes its a nice city but sure rains a lot
[17:20] <AaronThul> hmm where the heck is drivedb.h on Ununtu locate is failing me
[17:22] <rick_h> AaronThul: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=drivedb.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
[17:23] <AaronThul> apthul@mara:/var/log$ ls /usr/share/smartmontools/drivedb.h
[17:23] <AaronThul> ls: cannot access /usr/share/smartmontools/drivedb.h: No such file or directory
[17:24] <rick_h> AaronThul: dpkg -l | grep smartmontools ?
[17:24] <AaronThul> ii  smartmontools                             5.38-3ubuntu3                                   control and monitor storage systems using S.
[17:24] <AaronThul> maybe my old version does not have a drive db
[17:24] <rick_h> ah, maybe. what version is it?
[17:25] <rick_h> http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=drivedb.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any yea, not in squeeze (pre wheezy)
[17:25] <AaronThul> maybe someone has a PPA
[17:25] <AaronThul> I want to keep an eye on m shinny new SSDs
[18:08] <brousch> rick_h: Did you break your car already?
[18:11] <rick_h> brousch: no, but it's a complicated tow behicle. I need to have the hitch reinforced before I can use a WD hitch.
[18:11] <rick_h> brousch: so for optimal safety going to take it to CA and get it reinforced and balanced out.
[18:12] <greg-g> you're coming to CA?
[18:12] <brousch> Why is nothing easy with you?
[18:13] <rick_h> greg-g: CA Canada :P
[18:14] <rick_h> brousch: yea, it's a mess. towing is different in EU where they make this thing
[18:14] <greg-g> I thought it was in prep to come out here to visit me, oh well
[18:14] <rick_h> so it's odd doing it right here int he US
[18:15] <AaronThul> wow just learned something about pg_restore I really wish I knew a few days ago
[19:12] <snap-l> AaronThul: Something happen to your DB?
[19:12] <AaronThul> yes bad things
[19:12] <snap-l> Ugh
[19:12] <snap-l> That's the opposite of good things
[19:12] <AaronThul> last few days been no fun
[19:25] <jcastro> hey AaronThul !
[19:25] <jcastro> long time!
[19:26] <AaronThul> jcastro: for sure
[19:26] <AaronThul> I been hiding out in Canada
[19:52] <jrwren_> how to profile a python daemon?
[20:01] <snap-l> Profile or just see what it's doing?
[20:01] <snap-l> if it's the latter, i resort to strace
[20:01] <snap-l> If it's the former, then I'd check out: http://docs.python.org/2/library/profile.html
[20:28] <greg-g> ugh, we're getting DOS'd by amazon AWS on our search cluster (making lots of bogus search queries)
[20:28] <greg-g> by users of AWS, that is
[20:29] <brousch> Who did you piss off this time?
[20:29] <greg-g> usually everyone
[20:30] <snap-l> Take that Wikipedia for [citation needed]
[20:33] <brousch> If you would just block the controversial posts and allow all of the posts through you wouldn't have these problems
[20:34] <greg-g> brousch: yep, 'zactly
[20:37] <brousch> Glad I could help
[20:38] <snap-l> brousch: DO you happen to have that list of controversial posts in a .csv format?
[20:39] <brousch> I assume it's part of the Wikimedia API
[20:40] <greg-g> so, there was this optional, opt-in feature to hide images tagged with nsfw or something. The "community" wouldn't let it go through on the grounds of CENSORSHIP!
[20:40] <jrwren_> python -m cProfile worked very well. I'm just dumb.
[20:40] <greg-g> community in scarequotes because like many things, I think it was a vocal minority
[20:40] <brousch> Who decides what gets the tag?
[20:40] <snap-l> Exactly. How am I to get my daily fix of NSFW Wikiporn?
[20:41] <brousch> snap-l: That tag would make it easier to find the wikipr0n
[20:42] <greg-g> theres plenty of porn on wikimedia commons
[20:45] <snap-l> who runs wikimedia commons?
[20:45] <brousch> greg-g does
[20:45] <snap-l> and how long are the logs kept? :)
[20:46] <greg-g> we scrub IPs as soon as possible, but we have stats on number of views per media/page
[20:46] <greg-g> we have probably the best TOS in the industry, *especially* for a top 5 website
[20:53] <widox> rick_h: that api conference that came up in CHC, http://api-craft.org/
[20:53] <rick_h> widox: cool, thanks.
[20:54] <rick_h> curses, right after pyohio
[20:54] <rick_h> ugh, weekday conference.
[20:57] <brousch> Weekday are the best. Get a day off work and the boss pays
[20:57] <brousch> But yeah, d00d, right after PyOhio
[20:57] <jrwren_> TIL: plotting 5000 points onto a world map with d3js and refreshing every second is SLOW
[20:58] <brousch> 3 days long?
[20:58] <widox> the first day is really only a party at night
[20:59] <jrwren_> TIL: pickle is huge orders of magnitude faster than json. cpickle is a few more orders of magnitude faster than pickle
[21:00] <rick_h> jrwren_: yea, just no portability to other langs and you can get some strange object behavior on occassion.
[21:02] <jrwren_> its *really good* for what I'm doing :)
[21:12] <jrwren_> well, shared memory and real threads would be better, but python fucking sucks, ya know :)
[21:12] <jrwren_> i considered using *not python*
[21:17] <rick_h> widox: oh, it's an unconference. Interesting
[22:26] <jcastro> snap-l: not in #ubuntu-community-team anymore?
[23:19] <snap-l> jcastro: Nah, I don't hang out in there much
[23:19] <snap-l> Anything I missed, jcastro ?
[23:19] <jcastro> no
[23:19] <jcastro> I was going to whine about metal
[23:22] <snap-l> Ah
[23:22] <snap-l> whine away. :)
[23:24] <jrwren_> jcastro: learn something tomorrow!
[23:24] <jcastro> heh
[23:25] <snap-l> jcastro: Picked up Supercollider?
[23:25] <jcastro> yeah
[23:26] <snap-l> And?
[23:26] <jcastro> not very good.
[23:26] <snap-l> Seems to be the general consensus
[23:26] <snap-l> Though I remember you hating Endgame as well
[23:28] <jcastro> ensgame has at least 3 good soongs
[23:28] <jcastro> thing one .. man, nothing
[23:28] <jcastro> it's just not good
[23:28] <jcastro> which makes me sad
[23:31] <snap-l> Ugh
[23:31] <snap-l> So they finally shit out a Death Magnetic. ;)
[23:32] <snap-l> (That's not fair, at lease Death Magnetic had Judas Kiss)
[23:42] <snap-l> http://www.neilpeart.net/index.php?cID=244
[23:42] <snap-l> I don't think I could have picked a better muse