Kiloshiya maiatoday and all others06:03
theblazehen_hi Kilos 06:12
trendermorning gents06:12
Kiloshehe theblazehen 2 of you here today06:12
Kiloshi trender06:12
trendercan i play 2 ?06:12
trenderi brought my crayons and coloring in books06:13
theblazehen_Kilos: My home computer is still connected :p06:17
Kiloshi drussell 06:27
magespawngood morning 06:38
Kiloshi magespawn 06:38
magespawnhow the binneland this morning Kilos?06:41
Kiloscold magespawn 06:42
magespawnahh well that is to be expected06:43
Kilosya but dont mean one must enjoy it06:44
magespawni always say that when you are stuck with something you can do nothing about you might as well enjoy it06:45
Kilosya go shivering down the passage to make tea singing06:46
maiatodaymorning Kilos06:47
drussellhowdy-doody Kilos!06:50
magespawnindeed 06:51
Kiloshi Vince-0 06:51
ThatGraemeGuymorning peoples06:58
theblazehen-mobihi ThatGraemeGuy 06:58
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy you missed last nights meet06:58
Kiloshi Space 06:59
theblazehen-mobihi Space 06:59
mazalMorning everyone06:59
ThatGraemeGuyi've never not missed one :-)06:59
Kiloshi mazal 06:59
ThatGraemeGuy4 year old and 6 month old at home = no IRC 99% of the time06:59
Kilosya life happens07:00
Kilosask magespawn 07:00
theblazehen-mobiWhat happened to magespawn ?07:01
Kiloshes family is nearing school going age07:02
Kilosand schools seem to be big holes one has to fill with money nowadays07:03
magespawnkids are 7 and 11 years now, high school in 2016 for the eldest 07:06
ThatGraemeGuyprimary school is around 7k/year07:07
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theblazehen-mobiok. My brother is 8 ATM.07:07
ThatGraemeGuynot too terrible07:07
ThatGraemeGuyplayschool is R15.5k already :-/07:07
ThatGraemeGuyalthough that goes down when she goes to primary school07:08
ThatGraemeGuybut then books, uniforms, bla bla07:08
theblazehen-mobiPer year? or month?07:08
theblazehen-mobiStill a lot07:08
theblazehen-mobiHi Squirm 07:09
Kiloshi Squirm 07:09
magespawnmine is a little less, about R1300.00 for both, so R600 per month each07:09
theblazehen-mobiOk, quite a bit07:10
magespawnif they were in high school this year it would start at R20 000 per year each without boarding, double that or more with boarding07:11
magespawnand those are the cheep schools07:12
Squirmonly just starting to realise how expensive a school actually is07:12
Squirmwell, how much money the parents have to earn atleast07:13
Squirmcause I think we're around R100k at the mo07:13
SquirmMicaelhouse and Hilton are up at R200k07:14
magespawnR189 000 but that is all inclusive.07:14
tonberryE352university tuition is less than that...07:17
Vince-0just get 'em started on LPI1 instead07:18
magespawnif we take a middle of the road approach, the school we like is DHS, which is about R64 000 with boarding per year, then our household needs to be R120 000 to R 150 000 or more to be comfortable07:20
Squirmmagespawn: obviously I'd say Treverton cause I've come to school here and enjoyed it - but how about St. Charles in pmb07:22
Squirmdon't know what their fees are line though07:22
magespawni just had a quickish look around on the net, not all the schools have a site and not all have their fees online07:23
Kilosis maritzburg college more than DHS magespawn ?07:24
Kilosian went to both07:24
magespawni think it was if i recall correctly07:25
barrydkGoeie more almal07:27
Kiloshi barrydk \07:27
barrydkHows things Kilos 07:28
Kilosjust cold but good ty and you barrydk ?07:28
barrydkAlso good but no winter yet07:29
Kilosyou just down the road man07:37
Kiloshi HawkiesZA 07:38
Kilosmorning superfly 07:38
HawkiesZAMôre oom Kilos07:38
superflymorning Kilos07:39
Squirmpython for android08:38
SquirmI was messing around.08:39
Squirmthought to myself, what the hell. Uploaded my multithreaded irc bot onto my cell and it ran perfectly08:39
theblazehen-mobiSquirm what's it do? 08:42
superflySquirm: Are you using that QPython (or whatever it's called)08:43
Squirmtheblazehen: I just made kind of a... template which I ran08:43
Squirmthe framework for a bit08:43
Squirmsuperfly: I installed that at first08:44
Squirmbut then I installed python-for-android08:44
Squirmand sl4a08:44
superflyI looked at that, but the QPython looked like it would work better08:44
Squirmsl4a makes it really easy to run scripts08:47
magespawnbbl 08:48
Squirmtwo taps and your script will run08:48
Squirmand sl4a makes it possible to use the android api08:49
Squirmso popup boxes, sounds, etc08:49
Squirmyou can send smss08:49
theblazehen-mobiNice 08:50
theblazehen-mobiCan you make full apps? 08:51
HawkiesZAWith sl4a? Not last time I checked09:00
HawkiesZAThe day I can do Android dev in Python will be a joyous day indeed09:01
theblazehen-mobiYep.  Hope it's soon09:02
HawkiesZAI wonder if you can wangle something in Jython...09:03
superflyI agree with HawkiesZA.09:03
superflyActually, ANY dev should be done in Python.09:03
theblazehen-mobiPersonally I'm hoping for php 09:04
* theblazehen-mobi ducks09:04
HawkiesZALeave now09:04
superflytheblazehen-mobi: you're evidentally a poor sadistic masochistic demented individual. PHP? Really?09:04
HawkiesZAThis is a holy place09:05
theblazehen-mobiI find it easy to use... 09:05
tonberryE352burn the witch!09:05
HawkiesZAYour dark rituals are not welcome here09:05
superflytheblazehen-mobi: you evidently haven't used Python. PHP easy to use? pah!09:06
theblazehen-mobiSuperfly: I tried a little.  Want to spend more time on it09:06
superflyFunnily enough, I have this link open in my browser at the moment... http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/09:06
theblazehen-mobiYeah... 09:07
superflytheblazehen-mobi: http://swaroopch.com/notes/python/09:07
theblazehen-mobiI read that beforw09:07
HawkiesZAOk, I think we need to stop the language bashing now :P09:07
theblazehen-mobiThe php09:07
tonberryE352php seems easy to use at first until you notice that there is no common sense in its design at all09:07
theblazehen-mobiThanks will try thay09:07
tonberryE352and you end up wasting all your time on fixing php gotchas09:07
HawkiesZALet's talk about JavaScript instead09:08
theblazehen-mobiOk... 09:08
superflyHawkiesZA: bwahahaha09:09
tonberryE352you just beat met to it...09:09
HawkiesZANerd comedy09:09
HawkiesZAGold, I say09:09
HawkiesZAI think we chased kilos away09:33
theblazehen-mobiLol yea09:46
Squirmyou could do a lot of dev on your phone in python09:47
Squirmbut not much regarding Android and its GUI09:47
SquirmI meant to paste this09:48
Squirmsl4a calls09:48
Kilosexternal killed my modem connection09:51
Kilosand reconnecting modem killed a data recovery09:53
Squirmlets all play dominoes10:01
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Squirmsuperfly: Su(Guest25831) is running from my cell10:04
Squirm.test2 Hello10:05
Squirmit has the modules socket, threading, sys, string and time loaded10:05
* Squirm locks his phone10:06
Squirm.test2 Test with phone locked10:06
Guest25831Test with phone locked10:06
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magespawnSquirm: what are you doing there exactly?11:24
Kiloshehe 11:24
magespawnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfxTc7_1UVE one for charl for our discussion yesterday11:43
Squirmmagespawn: running a python script from my cellphone12:05
magespawncool beans12:05
magespawnthis one is more applicable to pc tech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETTZHsrifT012:08
mazalBye everyone12:57
theblazehen_Just tried python on codecademy.13:01
theblazehen_I now have a new favourite13:01
Vince-0I figured how to turn on my microwave using python13:04
Vince-0(see pic)13:04
theblazehen_Vince-0: lol13:13
superflyAh yes, I posted that on FB the other day13:15
Vince-0ag nee! I saw it on G+ stupid memes13:23
Kiloshi smile4ever 14:09
magespawnlater all home time14:23
Kiloscheers magespawn 14:24
Kiloshi JamesN7 14:24
JamesN7Hey Kilos :) 14:24
Kilosif you aint been here before, welcome to ubuntu-za14:24
JamesN7I have, a while ago :) But thank you :D14:25
Kilosshout if you need help14:25
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Kiloswb Spaceghost 14:29
SpaceghostThank you Kilos.14:30
SpaceghostIs this channel go to offtopic sometimes?14:30
SpaceghostDespite it is being logged :O.14:30
Kilosoften ya14:30
Kilosdepending in what direction we sometimes get magged14:30
Kilosguys often tell about new things or ask for help with a non related thing why? Spaceghost 14:31
SpaceghostNot sure, I enjoy the offtopic where offtopic is not the main thing of a channel :P.14:32
Kiloshaha 14:33
Kilosonly real offtopis subject here is windows help but that slips through some times too14:33
Kiloswe are all friends so help where we can14:33
SpaceghostAh, nice14:34
SpaceghostAnyway there is even a Windows channel here in Freende.14:34
Kilosi dunno14:34
Kiloswb Squirm 14:35
Kilosalso one cant condemn a linux okey that has win pcs to fix at work for asking here first anyway14:36
inetprogood morning Kilos15:52
inetproand hi everyone else15:52
Kiloshehe are you ok inetpro 15:52
Kilosi thought maybe you went away15:53
inetproKilos: I am away, but I am here 15:53
inetprothat is most important15:53
Kilosif you dont go anywhere that new tyre will last a long time15:53
Kilosyou on lappy or mobile?15:54
* inetpro plustwo and Mzolisto will be down in a few secs15:54
Kiloswell ty for letting us know15:55
Kilosother peeps going down with net splits15:55
inetproswitching back from what we did last time15:56
Kilosoh my15:56
* inetpro working from a windy Qwantani 15:57
Kiloswhats that??15:57
KilosMaaz, define Qwantani 15:59
MaazKilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word?16:00
Kilosi dunno either16:00
Kilosoh safari lodges?16:01
inetproKilos: http://www.qwantani.co.za/16:01
Kilosya ty QA gave same link and more16:02
Kilosinetpro, plustwo wb16:28
inetproKilos: thanks16:28
inetpronot quite done yet, but almost there16:29
Kilosyou got time to fix that top topic bar or whatever its called?16:29
Kilosok sorry16:29
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inetproKilos: oops, when is the next meeting?16:33
KilosMinutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.html16:34
Kilos15th inetpro 16:34
inetprowow and it's even registered already16:35
inetproKilos: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/615/detail/16:35
Kilosmaybe the monkey did some work16:36
Kiloswg again inetpro 16:43
Kiloswb too16:43
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inetproKilos: dankie oom16:44
Kilosgracias amigo16:44
Kiloslekker to fix things from afar hey16:45
Kilosinetpro, at anoher time can we discuss putting the minutes link in the topis bar too?16:49
Kilosi cant member if we have discussed it before16:49
inetproKilos: another time please16:53
Kilosyessir i said so16:54
Kilosenjoy your stay there16:54
inetproKilos: got a bit of a headache now, but did enjoy a few relaxing days16:56
inetprowe did some interesting travelling today16:56
Kilosgood and bad16:56
Kilosheadaches suck16:57
Kilosjust enjoy the free time you have and rest enough16:57
inetprowent to Clarens and Betlehem16:57
Kiloshi nlsthzn 16:58
inetproon our way to Bethlehem we stopped over at the Lesotho Highlands Water Project Outlet into the Ash river16:58
inetproamazing project16:58
nlsthznAlo ZA land16:58
Kilosfrom that big dam between the mountains?16:59
inetproKilos: yep16:59
inetprosomething like more than a 100km through a tunnel16:59
Kilosbeen past there many years ago16:59
inetprogolden gate was also pretty amazing for the kids17:02
Kilosvery cold up there though17:02
inetproKilos: actually not so cold at all17:03
inetprojust windy17:03
inetprokids would have loved to see a bit of snow17:03
inetprono signs of it17:03
Kilosyou didnt see any snow?17:03
Kiloshorrible wet white stuff17:04
nlsthznif I want to play in the snow I have to go to the mall :/17:07
* inetpro may be back later... or tomorrow17:08
Kilosgo safe17:08
KilosSpaceghost, see?17:10
Kiloswe a family17:12
Symmetriathe reaction to that is going to be *priceless*17:35
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Kilosneelsie send heat man17:45
nlsthznk, how much?17:48
Kiloslots and lots17:49
nlsthznSymmetria:the link doesn't make sense without some context :p17:49
Kiloswanna melt a bit even17:49
Symmetrianlsthzn lol, the fact that I responded in fluent swahili17:51
Symmetriato some guy 17:51
Symmetriaon an international mailing list17:51
Symmetriato overcome a language barrier17:51
Symmetriais going to create so many questions and its gonna be a hilarious laugh 17:52
nlsthznah ok :)18:02
Cantidewatching this now -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiACHBktsA018:45
Kilosnight all . sleep tight18:51
Kilosenjoy the night18:51
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