[00:00] <usercheck_> mnemon: its not work. but if i remove s from https, its work.
[00:00] <mnemon> usercheck_: what is the error message?
[00:00] <usercheck_> mnemon: its not work. but if i remove s from https, its work. https->http
[00:00] <langhun> and  my mother tongue is not english
[00:01] <mnemon> langhun: explain more ... didn't really understand what you're asking for.
[00:01] <usercheck_> mnemon:Firefox can't find the server at encrypted.google.com
[00:01] <mnemon> usercheck_: do you have a firewall or something that could block https?
[00:02] <langhun> "rm `ls | grep 1`  equal  ls | grep 1   ?   rm  "  what  can instead the ?
[00:02] <usercheck_> OerHeks:thx, no problem you link can be use to learn about knowing it.thx sir
[00:02] <tyrog> langhun: Ask with whatever you feel more comfortable
[00:02] <tyrog> langhun: what's your language?
[00:03] <usercheck_> i'm using ufw, but its status is disable
[00:03] <usercheck_> mnemon:i'm using ufw, but its status is disable
[00:03] <langhun> chinese
[00:03] <tyrog> !cn | langhun
[00:04] <usercheck_> mnemon:how to find " something that could block https"
[00:04] <lhx> can someone chat me with my nick at the front? testing my irc client's highlighting
[00:04] <langhun> no people can speak in #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw
[00:04] <benbloom> is there a simple way to run a command in bash that accesses numbers logically? say play track 05-19 in a list? if I do 'mpg321 [01][5-9]* ' it ignores 10-14.
[00:04] <mnemon> usercheck_: does iptables -L display any rules?
[00:04] <Coburn> lhx:
[00:04] <Coburn> test
[00:04] <lhx> ty
[00:05] <usercheck_> mnemon: i will try it,wait
[00:05] <langhun> rm `ls | grep 1`  equal  ls | grep 1   >  rm
[00:05] <langhun> the >  is right
[00:05] <langhun> ?
[00:06] <langhun> i feel isn`t right
[00:06] <mnemon> langhun: it will pipe the output to a file called rm
[00:06] <mnemon> maybe | ?
[00:06] <usercheck_> mnemon: yes, i have run it, what must i do ?
[00:06] <langhun> i know
[00:07] <mnemon> usercheck_: are there any rules there?
[00:07] <lhx> Coburn: can you do it one more time?
[00:07] <langhun> but  now  i want delet the  grep result
[00:07] <benbloom> langhun: you probably want to use the 'find' command rather than ls | grep
[00:07] <mnemon> usercheck_: could paste the output to http://pastie.org/ or something if you want me to confirm if there's any rules ..
[00:09] <langhun> i only want to konw what sigle is used at there
[00:09] <usercheck_> mnemon: all lines?
[00:09] <mnemon> usercheck_: yes
[00:10] <benbloom> pipe
[00:10] <benbloom> langhun: "|" is the pipe sign it is what you're wanting I think
[00:11] <benbloom> langhun: ">" will send output to a file named rm
[00:11] <Coburn> lhx: testing highlight
[00:12] <langhun> i know  the "|" mean
[00:12] <Coburn> think of it like a sewer pipe
[00:12] <langhun> rm `ls | grep 1`
[00:13] <langhun> i want to use the form "ls | grep 1   ?   rm  " to delet the file
[00:13] <usercheck_> mnemon: error   :  Error 503 backend write error
[00:13] <usercheck_> backend write error
[00:13] <usercheck_> Guru Meditation:
[00:13] <usercheck_> XID: 3832168302
[00:13] <usercheck_> Varnish cache server
[00:13] <FloodBot1> usercheck_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <usercheck_> mnemon: when i'm try pastie
[00:15] <mnemon> try the one floodbot1 suggested
[00:15] <lhx> Coburn: ty
[00:15] <Coburn> haha
[00:15] <Coburn> clever FloodBot1
[00:16] <harris> so i have 3 dvds how can i convert them to a file that is readable by android
[00:16] <lordcirth> Why does fuse give Permission denied when I'm logged in as a Guest account, and how can I fix this?
[00:16] <tyrog> Coburn: He is the OP here, he should be smart
[00:16] <Coburn> harris: look up mencoder
[00:16] <Coburn> or avconvert
[00:16] <harris> which one
[00:16] <harris> is free
[00:16] <Coburn> both
[00:16] <Coburn> if it's a legit dvd (not torrented) then you'll need to rip it
[00:17] <harris> which is faster/better
[00:17] <Coburn> and sadly there's no linux tools that will take off the DRM on the DVD
[00:17] <harris> can we pm
[00:17] <Coburn> harris: it's all up to your hardware
[00:17] <Coburn> I don't do PM support, I'm ill and have enough tabs open as it is
[00:18] <Coburn> I can give you advice and tips tough
[00:18] <harris> ok
[00:18] <OerHeks> a 90 minut dvd takes 6 hours work :-D
[00:18] <Coburn> through*
[00:18] <Coburn> OerHeks: yeah, because of damn DRM
[00:18] <Coburn> SecuROM / Disney Anti-Copy / etc
[00:18] <harris> would it be easier in windows?
[00:18] <Coburn> yes
[00:18] <Coburn> you could use DVDFab
[00:18] <Dr_willis> Coburn,  dvdfab works in wine and can remove a lot of them  ;)
[00:18] <Coburn> ^
[00:19] <usercheck_> mnemon: yes sir
[00:19] <Coburn> heard about that actually
[00:19] <funjon> handbrake is your friend.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> seemed to work very well the little i used it.,
[00:19] <Dr_willis> handbreak will NOT remove drm/protection/encryption
[00:19] <harris> sorry
[00:20] <Dr_willis> then theres the new generation of extra protection on top of that normal decss encryption
[00:20] <fabioluciano> Anybody here uses xfce instead unity?
[00:20] <OerHeks> "#1 DVD Player for Android: MoboPlayer"  you have not searched for android apps, have you ?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> ive had legally bought DVD movies that will not play in legal DVD players due to their extra protection
[00:20] <funjon> Dr_willis: really? I rip direct from DVD to mp4 with handbrake.  It uses libdvdcss.
[00:20] <harris> Dr_willis, or Coburn or OerHeks anyone have a youtube guiode
[00:20] <xangua> !anyone | fabioluciano
[00:20] <Coburn> the thing is
[00:21] <Coburn> the DRM guys are one step ahead
[00:21] <Coburn> of the devs
[00:21] <harris> i have 3 dvd from library
[00:21] <Coburn> and besides, "YOU CANNOT HACK OUR DRM OR RISK IMPRISONMENT"
[00:21] <harris> want to put them on my tablet
[00:21] <Coburn> yep
[00:21] <Coburn> you mihgt be better off to use DVDFab
[00:22] <Coburn> Actually, do this
[00:22] <harris> what will that do?
[00:22] <Coburn> Removes protection, resulting in files like *.vobs
[00:22] <Coburn> Rip the DVD to HDD, then use mencoder/avconvert to transcode it into tablet format ;)
[00:22] <harris> what type of file do i need mp4?
[00:23] <Dr_willis> funjon,   that wont work for the new protection. and handbreak dosent include that decss stuff.  i definatly seen in their help/docs where they dont support it (they could giving a wink and blind eye to how easy it is to add.. but they cant get sued for that)
[00:23] <Coburn> make and model of your tablet?
[00:23] <Coburn> Dr_willis: you're right
[00:23] <OerHeks> harris, or www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html‎
[00:23] <Coburn> libcss hasn't been updated in yonks i think
[00:23] <harris> samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 gtp5113
[00:23] <Coburn> mp4 would be fine
[00:23] <Coburn> I had a Galaxy Tab 2
[00:24] <Coburn> It ran 720p MP4s fine
[00:24] <erek> jrib: im forced to format :(
[00:24] <harris> OerHeks, 404 error: page not found
[00:25] <erek> harris: i'm forced to format my setup :'(
[00:25] <harris> what does that mean
[00:25] <harris> format what setup
[00:27] <erek> the hard disk
[00:27] <harris> why
[00:27] <erek> can't recover from an error involving 'klauncher'
[00:28] <harris> that sucks
[00:29] <Coburn> erek:
[00:29] <Coburn> you could roll back
[00:29] <Coburn> :)
[00:29] <erek> how?
[00:29] <Coburn> google "ubuntu roll back packages"
[00:29] <Dr_willis>  dvdfab can rip straight to an video file.. or you can make a de-protected disk image
[00:29] <Coburn> basically, you just say "Ubuntu, I want this package at this version, nothing more, nothing less"
[00:30] <Coburn> the free trial of dvdfab will put a watermark on it
[00:30] <Coburn> but it's see through
[00:30] <Dr_willis> actually the demo period wont. :) and when it expires.. you delete your .wine directory and reinstall it...
[00:30] <Dr_willis> for another 30 days
[00:30] <Dr_willis> or so i hear.... :P
[00:31] <Dr_willis> they also have a free  deprotect on the fly feature that lets other rippers  get past the annoying new protection. but im not sure how well that woirks with wine
[00:31] <Dr_willis> but its not as up to date as the paid stuff
[00:31] <harris> erek,
[00:31] <harris> http://bit.ly/18c8Xw2
[00:31] <Dr_willis> I basically have given up on buying dvd/blueray due to the annoying protection. wife got sick of fighting with it.
[00:34] <erek> harris: jerk
[00:34] <newbie> hola
[00:35] <Guest86663> erek hola
[00:35] <Guest86663> :)
[00:36] <Guest86663> alguien sabe como instalar el driver
[00:36] <Guest86663> de la targeta de video
[00:36] <Guest86663> buske en internet u noc encontre nada
[00:36] <OerHeks> !es
[00:40] <usercheck_> mnemon:but from my iptable result, is it have hole in my system?
[00:41] <lordcirth> Why isn't a guest allowed to use any setuid execs, even FUSE, and how can I fix / work around this?
[00:41] <mnemon> usercheck_: i didn't check the input chains that well ... looks like it's accepting most things at the moment
[00:42] <mnemon> probably not a problem unless you're running something strange/misconfigured.
[00:43] <usercheck_> mnemon:thx sir
[00:44] <usercheck_> so if we just use irc and web browser?,in allow option, what port we setting ?
[00:45] <usercheck_> in gufw
[00:46] <usercheck_> mnemon:thx for solutions
[00:48] <mnemon> usercheck_: np
[00:51] <harris> OerHeks, is handbrake a good software
[00:52] <Snype> handbrake is awesome
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> so are the channels rules
[00:53] <Snype> yes they are :D
[00:53] <Guest85517> Hey guys, suck here - super easy question with no answer I've found online.....Can anyone tell me the defaul settings in Audacity for Noise Removal?  I altered them and its working like crap.  Its by Dominic Mazzoni....I'd appreciate it SO MUCH!  Trying to record before its too late here and without this right eveything is not going so well... Super annoyed.  THANKS GUYS!  :)
[00:53] <harris> because i am thinking about making a digital copy of some dvds
[00:53] <harris> anyone got some good guides
[00:54] <Snype> turn them into compressed images
[00:54] <Dr_willis> harris,  with newer disks - they Can contain protection that you will need to use tools like 'dvdfab' to get around
[00:54] <Dr_willis> harris,  with older disks.  ive used k9copy and handbreak or other tools to make DVD -> video files
[00:56] <lordcirth> Is there a practical way to reset a user's home dir each login, other than Guest-session?  Because guest-session doesn't work very well
[00:57] <Snype> the zip the home folders
[00:57] <Snype> and make a script to delete every folder
[00:57] <Snype> then unzip the zip
[00:57] <craigbass1976> Anyone had the experience where firefox won't go to web pages anymore, then after a restart is fine?  How about where it takes the whole network down with it?  I was pinging in a terminal once things went awry, kept getting "host unreachable" (this didn't matter if I pinged google or something on 192.168.x.x) shut FF off, turned it back on, and things were fine.  I still got the unreachable until FF starts again.
[00:57] <Snype> there are so many ways to do it lordcirth
[00:58] <Snype> craigbass1976, sounds more like your router
[00:58] <PissedoffUser> I'm just here to say that Ubuntu sucks for all that it was made for. I can't even fucking change my permissions, even in recovery mode or with the Live CD because "users" don't exist when the CD is inserted.... I can't change permissions on shit and the fact that ubuntu sets up one user as root is great but WHAT IF YOU DELETE THAT USER. then you have no fucking permissions and can't get them back. Its pathetic that people woul
[00:58] <PissedoffUser> Then they insult the persons intelligence when they're asking for help.
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> !language | PissedoffUser
[00:58] <Guest85517> Hey guys, suck here - super easy question with no answer I've found online.....Can anyone tell me the defaul settings in Audacity for Noise Removal?  I altered them and its working like crap.  Its by Dominic Mazzoni.....
[00:58] <Snype> PissedoffUser, just boot using the live cd, copy your files and do a fresh install
[00:59] <PissedoffUser> I'm switching to Debian forsure. I can't even get my files back from this shitty computer. Let alone get help from you assholes. And also all you guys do is undermine me not help me. and tell me no to sware.
[00:59] <PissedoffUser> i'm going somewhere else.
[00:59] <Snype> see ya PissedoffUser
[00:59] <PissedoffUser> fuck that
[00:59] <craigbass1976> Snype, but my own laptop (the other is my wife's) is fine.  The machine dropped connection when someone else owned it, but I wan't able to test well as they were an hour away.  They gave up and gave me the laptop.
[01:00] <Snype> craigbass1976, i feel you but it can be so many things
[01:00] <Snype> and frankly i wouldnt bet on firefox
[01:01] <lordcirth> Snype: Yes, but what's a safe way to trigger the script?  If it's on logout, it won't run if the machine loses power.  If on login, it's going to overwrite stuff while it's starting.
[01:01] <Snype> lordcirth, on startup
[01:01] <Snype> overwrite what stuff?
[01:01] <lordcirth> Snype: On boot?  But then if they log out, and log back in, it will not have wiped
[01:01] <Snype> on login then my friend :)
[01:02] <lordcirth> Snype: Overwriting the home directory while they're logging in?  Does Ubuntu do login in parallel, or could it wait until cp finishes?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> craigbass1976, Any details missing here like proxies?
[01:02] <Snype> cp will happen after login
[01:03] <lordcirth> Snype: Then settings will be loaded from before, won't they?
[01:03] <Snype> oh you even want to wipe the . folders?
[01:03] <Snype> you basically want a fresh login everytime right?
[01:04] <Snype> two recommendations a modded guest session or a live session like one from a live cd or usb
[01:05] <Flannel> lordcirth: Do it on logout normally.  Also do it on power-up.
[01:05] <Snype> you can always set ubuntu to run on live mode after installation
[01:05] <craigbass1976> wilee-nilee, not that I know of.  Straight up connection to ISP
[01:05] <dabber_chris> Is there a easyway to setup a sound card? My card shows up in lspci just no where else.
[01:05] <craigbass1976> wilee-nilee, I've got cable, that last folks had dsl
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> craigbass1976, Cool, just wondering.
[01:06] <pyasi> guys, internet doesn't work in live cd(live session) though the laptop is connected to the internet, the router's homepage loads but the other site's doesn't load also, plz help me guys, plz
[01:06] <lordcirth> Snype: Yes, full reset like guest, but without the wacky restrictions on guests.
[01:07] <lordcirth> Flannel: Good idea, that would cover both situations.
[01:07] <Snype> login would cover both situations
[01:07] <Snype> programming on both situations will cause problems
[01:07] <Flannel> lordcirth: right.  It'd also allow you to have a clean computer at rest.
[01:07] <craigbass1976> pyasi, can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[01:07] <Snype> 8.8.8.8 is google dns
[01:08] <lordcirth> pyasi: If the router's homepage loads, but not the internet, it is quite likely a router or DSL problem
[01:08] <Snype> no way you cannot ping that craigbass1976
[01:08] <Flannel> Snype: are you just rambling nonsense now?
[01:08] <craigbass1976> Snype, eh?
[01:08] <Snype> 8.8.8.8 is google's dns server
[01:08] <pyasi> no , i can't ping google.com(says unknown host)
[01:08] <Snype> 8.8.4.4 too
[01:08] <lordcirth> Snype: Yes, we know, and they're good ones to ping
[01:09] <Snype> exactly there is no way its down
[01:09] <zykotick9> pystar89: dns != ip...
[01:09] <pyasi> guys, the router is fine,cause i can run the internet in windows system (pre-installed)
[01:09] <craigbass1976> pyasi, ping 8.8.8.8 and tell me if you get a response
[01:10] <craigbass1976> and what's in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[01:10] <pyasi> craigbass1976: i i captain, so i am gonna restart.
[01:14] <xubuntu890> Have blank (black) screen after installing 13.04, sometimes the cursor will show, but nothing else. Any ideas????
[01:14] <IdleOne> !nomodeset
[01:15] <Snype> xubuntu890, what graphics card you got?
[01:15] <xubuntu890> ok, it never happened with other ubuntu versions. I'll have a look at the forum post.
[01:15] <xubuntu890> many tnx.
[01:15] <raedov> hello guys
[01:16] <raedov> I want to install ubuntu 13.04 64bit but i can't , I've Nvidia 440 GT ?
[01:16] <raedov> there is a black screen
[01:16] <Snype> !nomodset
[01:16] <Timid> hey, with kali linux you can setup to choose desktop environment on login.  Can you setup cinnamon, kde, and gnome as choices at login for ubuntu?
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> raedov, On the live session?
[01:16] <Snype> !nomodeset
[01:16] <tking> hello does anyone know of a software to send emails to clients once in a week? i have a database of customers which i like to send campaign to
[01:16] <raedov> yup on the live session
[01:17] <Snype> tking, a php script run server side is best
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Check the nomodeset bot message above
[01:17] <Snype> i have a question
[01:17] <Peyam> yes
[01:17] <raedov> i tru : install ubuntu + try ubuntu same problem
[01:17] <Snype> opengl does not work on my nvidia 520mx
[01:17] <Peyam> ask your question
[01:17] <OerHeks> Timid yes
[01:17] <Snype> its nvidia optimus card
[01:17] <Peyam> raedov: what is the issue?
[01:17] <Snype> i am using bumblebee
[01:18] <raedov> wilee how can i use nomodeset
[01:18] <tking> Snype, i want to use an smtp which i already have... something like bulk mailing softwares
[01:18] <Peyam> raedov: I dont know
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> raedov, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[01:18] <Snype> i dont think there is any free ones i know of
[01:18] <Snype> but there are tones of services that do that
[01:18] <Snype> web services
[01:18] <Snype> just google bulk mail
[01:18] <Snype> tons*
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> raedov, There instructions there for a live cd.
[01:18] <OerHeks> raedov at the point try ubuntu/install ubuntu, press F6 to set nomodeset
[01:19] <nbubuntu> hi , normally when you transfer file via network or to an external hard disk , do you guys check for hashing ?
[01:19] <raedov> thank you wilee I'll try it , also when i try the intel 3000hd same problem ? black screen
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Generally we start with nomodeset to see if this gets you in with graphics.
[01:20] <raedov> ok I;ll try it , what is the best way to burn ubuntu iso on usb ? i use dd command before
[01:21] <tking> please how can i browse with my nokia phone using Nokia Pc Suite? any alternative?
[01:21] <Peyam> raedov: burn ubuntu on usb? u mean make a startup usb?
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> raedov, That works fine, I use the multisystem milti ISO loader, there is unetbootin as well, and a handful of others.
[01:21] <Peyam> raedov: there is good documentation on ubuntu.com
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> multi*
[01:21] <nbubuntu> hi , normally when you transfer file via network or to an external hard disk , do you guys check for hashing ?
[01:21] <raedov> yes make a startup usb
[01:22] <Peyam> raedov:  google " usb stick ubuntu"
[01:22] <Peyam> the first one will give you the solution
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> nbubuntu, I don't, I think its a matter of personal choice really.
[01:22] <Peyam> nbubuntu: No. Im pretty sure about what I do . I never check
[01:23] <nbubuntu> wilee-nilee Peya: what's the choice for crc32 , sha , md5 ?
[01:23] <nbubuntu> wilee-nilee Peya: i mean , for normal picture files , which one is suitable ?
[01:23] <raedov> thank you wilee , Peyam
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> nbubuntu, I believe sha is better them md5, not sure of the other
[01:23] <Peyam> I dunno.
[01:23] <bencc> I'm trying to output avconv to stdout but it saves the result and output it only when I'm stopping the stream
[01:23] <bencc> any way to make it output in real time?
[01:24] <nbubuntu> wilee-nilee :for picture files ?
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> nbubuntu, No idea really.
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> I rarely use any hash, I have just not had problems with the basic stuff I do.
[01:25] <lordcirth> nbubuntu: sha256 is more secure than md5, but md5 is faster.  If you're not checking for security, just for bad downloads, use md5.  It's fast and standard
[01:25] <nbubuntu> wilee-nilee : ok , i am actually finding a hash checker for a list of picture after transfer.
[01:25] <Peyam> Does any one know how I can get rid on " blbalabl left the room" etc in Pidgin?
[01:26] <Peyam> ff
[01:26] <nbubuntu> lordcirth : nah , not security , just some picture and recorded mpeg
[01:26] <lordcirth> nbubuntu: ya, so just use MD5
[01:26] <hanasaki> would someone please paste the output of "ls -al /var/log/syslog" please / looking for the id/group
[01:28] <Peyam> it makes me crazy
[01:28] <Peyam> How do I get rid of all these?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Peyam,  i think thats a pidgin FAQ. :) theres a plugin to get rid of them
[01:29] <syntroPi> is it possible to get rid of that apport madness? its always popping up and crashed my whole gnome-shell : program xy crashed, apport-gtk crashed, apport-gtk crashed and so on
[01:29] <Dr_willis> I find using a app designed for IRC works better then an IM app that can also do irc
[01:29] <syntroPi> i always have to KILL -9 that stupid apport
[01:29] <hanasaki> what id/group owns your /var/log/syslog file?
[01:30] <Flannel> hanasaki: syslog adm
[01:30] <Dr_willis> syntax,  clear out the apport logs and it will only report on newly crashed apps..or just disable it totally..  askubuntu.com has info on how to disable it
[01:30] <Peyam> Dr_willis: do you possibly know the name of the plugin or what ever they call it? Clearing plugin? so I know what I should google
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Peyam,  its in the default plugins last i looked.. allready installed. check your settings
[01:30] <Dr_willis> just not enabled
[01:30] <hanasaki> Flannel:  thanks.. hmm mine is Debian-exim   thoughts?
[01:31] <th0r> Peyam: it is join/part I think
[01:31] <Flannel> hanasaki: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:31] <hanasaki> Flannel:  Ubuntu 13.04
[01:31] <Peyam> no it is enable.
[01:31] <Peyam> should I restart this thing?
[01:31] <hadifarnoud> I'm getting constant high traffic. I contacted Linode and they confirmed its DoS attack. how can I see what type of requests I'm getting? it's like 5MB/s all the time.
[01:31] <hanasaki> Flannel:  what controls what rsyslogd sets the owner too?
[01:32] <Flannel> hanasaki: Wait, is Debian-exim the owner, or group?
[01:32] <hanasaki> Flannel: owner
[01:32] <Flannel> hanasaki: Whats the group?
[01:32] <ShippD> hello everyone just a question just did a upgrade to 13.10 and now when i launch chrome i get two icons one normall the other is a icon with a question mark on it any ideas would be great
[01:32] <hanasaki> adm
[01:32] <Flannel> hanasaki: And, what makes you think something is awry?
[01:33] <hanasaki> Flannel:  does it match what you have?
[01:33] <Peyam> worked. thanks Dr_willis th0r
[01:33] <Flannel> hanasaki: yes, "syslog adm" is owner/group, but on a different version of Ubuntu.  What makes you think yours is wrong?
[01:34] <hanasaki> Flannel:  counterintuitive for the mail id to own syslog
[01:34] <chaz68> Anyone good at LAMP Setup on debian / ubuntu here?  Have a security error with ajaxplorer I can't seem to figure out.
[01:35] <Peyam> åhh many years ago..
[01:35] <[jys]> does anyone know why apt-get claims php 5.3.6 is the latest version, even though i've added ppa:ondrej/php5 , which has 5.4.17?
[01:35] <Peyam> hmm
[01:36] <Peyam> is it the right ppa
[01:36] <Flannel> [jys]: did you apt-get update after adding it?
[01:36] <[jys]> yes i did Flannel, and I believe so, Peyam
[01:36] <Peyam> wierd
[01:36] <hanasaki> Flannel: ?
[01:36] <partounian> Does anyone know how to install some nice GUI onto 10.04 or is it not possible? It would be awesome for it look more like 12.04 or any newer Unity/Gnome.
[01:36] <Peyam> but does the ppa give the latest?
[01:37] <[jys]> not sure exactly what you mean, Peyam.. the ppa i added says 5.4.17, which is later (probably not latest) than the version i have, which is 5.3.6
[01:37] <Peyam> hmm
[01:38] <Flannel> hanasaki: I agree that's a little strange.
[01:38] <Peyam> when you do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. dont you get any error?
[01:38] <Peyam> partounian: you can see gnome-look.org
[01:38] <[jys]> no errors, Peyam
[01:38] <Flannel> partounian: We're talking about the "php5" package, correct?
[01:39] <[jys]> oh... that's weird. it seems that the ondrej ppa isn't in the update list, even though its in my software sources
[01:39] <partounian> Flannel: I'm pretty sure you meant to type [jys] correct?
[01:40] <[jys]> and if so, Flannel, then yes, the php5 package
[01:40] <hadifarnoud> I'm getting constant high traffic. I contacted Linode and they confirmed its DoS attack. how can I see what type of requests I'm getting? it's like 5MB/s all the time.
[01:40] <Flannel> partounian: I did.
[01:40] <[jys]> i'm not sure why that source isn't being recognized by apt-get, though
[01:40] <lhx> hadifarnoud:  put a packet sniffer on the server and capture the network traffic
[01:40] <Flannel> [jys]: pastebin `apt-cache policy php5` but if that PPA isn't being recognized, I think I know that that command will tell us that it's not there.
[01:40] <hadifarnoud> lhx tcpdump? then what?
[01:41] <lhx> hadifarnoud: you can also shut down all of your services other than maybe SSH and see which one stops the DDOS
[01:41] <lhx> hadifarnoud: or rather, shut down your services one by one and see what happens
[01:41] <[jys]> yes it seems you're right, Flannel - http://pastebin.com/4P687heH
[01:42] <Flannel> [jys]: alright, please pastebin your sources.list, plus any files in sources.list.d/
[01:42] <hadifarnoud> lhx: how can I monitor traffic in real time?
[01:43] <partounian> Peyam: Thank you!
[01:43] <lhx> hadifarnoud: any ideas 'why' you're being ddosd
[01:43] <[jys]> Flannel - sources.list contents http://pastebin.com/jf2hAgDV
[01:43] <[jys]> and sources.list.d contents http://pastebin.com/Fzfpm3qb
[01:44] <lhx> hadifarnoud: you can probably use wireshark
[01:44] <[jys]> i forgot to mention i'm using mint, but that wouldn't be a problem since it's based on Ubuntu, i'm assuming
[01:44] <hadifarnoud> lhx: spammers got into my server. I blocked them. then ddos started
[01:44] <lhx> hadifarnoud: any idea on 'how' they got in?
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, what does it mean when  conflict is in italics? http://gyazo.com/e925ff753237892781e3183b1476ebf4
[01:44] <hadifarnoud> lhx: I have no idea. I wasn't even relay
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> (that's a screen shot image)
[01:44] <hadifarnoud> I disabled SSH access and postfix. then it all stopped
[01:45] <Flannel> [jys]: uhm, sorry, the contents of the stuff in the folder sources.list.d/ (cat sources.list.d/*)  Also, this is godawfully ugly, and no, we don't support linux mint.  So we should make this quick.
[01:45] <lhx> hadifarnoud: in the future, move your SSH to a different port than 22
[01:45] <hadifarnoud> lhx: it's now just PKI and IP
[01:45] <lhx> that cuts down so many attempted security threats
[01:46] <Flannel> hadifarnoud, lhx: it's easier/better to just install something like denyhosts
[01:46] <lhx> hadifarnoud: that too...
[01:46] <hadifarnoud> Flannel: so I should remove denyhosts now? after changing port
[01:46] <Flannel> hadifarnoud: What?  No.  Using both is fine.
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> anybody know what it means when a dependency that causes confliction is in italics of synaptic package manager?
[01:47] <hadifarnoud> I enabled mod_security and mod_evasive too. most attacks come from port 80
[01:48] <hadifarnoud> lhx: how can I disable IP access to port 80? if you enter my IP it goes to my site as well. cloudflare doesn't work if they can access my site via IP
[01:48] <[jys]> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/f6JNWGrJ
[01:49] <Flannel> [jys]: and can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[01:51] <[jys]> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/D9wC6gVj
[01:51] <OerHeks> !oneiric
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> I ran apt-cache search fglrx-updates and noticed fglrx-updates-dev. Should I get the dev too?
[01:53] <Flannel> [jys]: aha.
[01:53] <Flannel> [jys]: that PPA has no packages in it currently for oneiric.
[01:54] <aLLStaR>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  Flannel  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[01:54] <aLLStaR> sorry
[01:54] <Flannel> aLLStaR: Excuse me?
[01:54] <aLLStaR> dont care pls
[01:54] <lordcirth> It appears that .bash_logout isn't run for graphical logouts in 13.04.  Where do I set things to happen on logout?
[01:54] <aLLStaR>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  lordcirth  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[01:54] <Flannel> aLLStaR: If that's a script or something, please turn it off.
[01:54] <[jys]> Flannel: ah i see, thank you for your help then :)
[01:54] <OerHeks> aLLStaR, stop that script
[01:54] <aLLStaR> Ok ~
[01:54] <lhx> lhx: you could just disable your webserve... that's usually on port 80. Apache maybe? /etc/init.d/apache stop ?
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> !tr
[01:55] <aLLStaR> it is a stupid script
[01:55] <Flannel> [jys]: The packages file is zero bytes.  And looking at his list of packages, I don't see any for oneiric.
[01:55] <Flannel> aLLStaR: That's fine, please turn it off, thanks.
[01:56] <aLLStaR> I did
[01:56] <[jys]> okay thanks Flannel
[01:56] <TUNAHAN> Türklerde
[01:56] <TUNAHAN> yokmu
[01:56] <TUNAHAN> simdi
[01:56] <TUNAHAN> :D
[01:56] <FloodBot1> TUNAHAN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <aLLStaR> var
[01:57] <syntroPi> apport seems totally broken here, itself makes my ubuntu freeze multiple times. can i just replace the binary with a dummy somehow?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !tr > TUNAHAN
[01:58] <RndmGoi> hello everyone
[01:58] <Peyam> hi
[01:58] <RndmGoi> nobody in here would happen to know anything about drivers for 6870
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> !ask > RndmGoi
[01:59] <ehhh> running 12.04 now and it's awesome, slight lag, does anyone else have problems with .mkv files? i tried a fairly light one (311mb) in vlc and it just skimmed through randomly and didn't work. . does anyone know if this is related to the hardware or the os?
[02:00] <OerHeks> ehhh or the .mkv, who knows?
[02:00] <syntroPi> ehhh, tried mplayer or totem yet?
[02:00] <thecodeischaos> im pretty sure i have played mkvs well enough
[02:00] <thecodeischaos> probably your hardware?
[02:00] <thecodeischaos> specs?
[02:00] <ehhh> nah the file is fine, i've watched it on this laptop, sntro no i haven't gotten that far yet :P
[02:00] <Peyam> RndmGoi: AMD? yes I have one of them I gues
[02:01] <syntroPi> well mkv is just a container right? so it would mean there can be any codes and any number of weird streams ans headers inside
[02:01] <ehhh> really old stationary computer, been having a fit over trying to install the os itself all day :P
[02:01] <syntroPi> meaning mkv != mkv
[02:01] <RndmGoi> i'm having problems finding drivers for a radeon hd 6870 that are compatible with ubuntu 13.04, the last drivers i downloaded from AMD wouldn't allow me to make administrative changes to my display settings
[02:02] <ehhh> yeah it's not that important for me to if .mkv working but i will try mplayer and totem to see if it can be done on this computer. most my vids are in .avi or .mp4 anyway
[02:03] <sasha-> O hai
[02:03] <syntroPi> ehhh, you also can try to enable libva and hw backend (like vdpau for nvidia) if your cpu is less powerfull than your gpu
[02:03] <sasha-> can someone tell me how I can filter in Wireshark so that I only see http requests that end with a *.m3u8
[02:03] <sasha-> ?
[02:03] <deepu> hello
[02:04] <deepu> can any one help me
[02:04] <deepu> ??
[02:04] <ehhh> syntroPi: what's the easiest way to check my specs on ubuntu? i haven't used this for years
[02:04] <syntroPi> ehhh, not sure what you mean by that
[02:05] <syntroPi> ehhh, you can open a terminal and incoke "top" to see how its performing
[02:05] <ehhh> like in windows you just click preferences on my computer to get up processor speed, ram, etc
[02:05] <syntroPi> ehhh, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:05] <syntroPi> ehhh, cat /proc/meminfo
[02:05] <sasha-> so, um anyone?
[02:05] <deepu> iam from india , iam using reliance broadband i need to know how to login to my account automatically can any one help
[02:05] <syntroPi> and lsusb lspci
[02:06] <deepu> iam from india , iam using reliance broadband i need to know how to login to my account automatically can any one help
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> deepu: What kind of login does it use?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> deepu, wireless?
[02:07] <deepu> when we need internet we have to login with a user name and password
[02:07] <syntroPi> ehhh, "sudo lshw"
[02:07] <deepu> no wired connection
[02:07] <syntroPi> and such
[02:07] <kalakj> hello everyone, how to check balance via USSD in UBUNTU
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> deepu, Is the login from a browser?
[02:08] <deepu> yes
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> kalakj: Ubuntu Touch? Head for #ubuntu-touch
[02:08] <kalakj> SonikkuAmerica: THANKS
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> kalakj: You're welcome
[02:08] <Peyam> deepu: no its not possible!
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> deepu, Browsers can save that info, however not all websites allow a autolog.
[02:08] <Peyam> it is not everna ubuntu issue
[02:09] <syntroPi> deepu, maybe you can watch the http request and rebuild it with a curl, or wget script?
[02:09] <deepu> in windows their wasa java script which allows the automatic logon when i bootup my system any thing like that in ubuntu ]
[02:09] <syntroPi> deepu, look for nodejs stuff mabye?
[02:10] <deepu> their is a option in the edit connection
[02:10] <deepu> can i use it for auto login
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> deepu, If you are using firefox with no flash blocking it will ask you if you want to save the info, a double click next time loads it.
[02:11] <Peyam> it will not work untill he opens the webbroser
[02:11] <deepu> dude wilee i know that iam asking any other way so that i dont want to login everytime it automaticvally connectd\]
[02:11] <Peyam> you can save it but it will not automaticly connect. you must press on "log in" button anyway
[02:11] <somsip> deepu: This isn't really a support issue. There are lots of conversations here that might help you though http://is.gd/ekmKk0
[02:12] <syntroPi> there is so many programs and scripts that can speak http, almost difficult to choose one
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> deepu, Cool, best of luck. ;)
[02:13] <ehhh> do i have to use the sidebar / dash search to launch apps? (not counting terminal launch) like in older ubuntu they used to be sorted in folders on the menu
[02:14] <Peyam> That's why I dont use ubuntu anymore becouse of unity
[02:14] <Peyam> xubuntu is the best
[02:15] <ehhh> xfce is the greatest no doubt, can i put app icons on the desktop though?
[02:16] <Peyam> in xubuntu?
[02:16] <Peyam> yes
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | Peyam ;)
[02:17] <ehhh> i'm running gnome, i'm trying out this old computer to see how it performs
[02:17] <nubcake> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my sunblade 1500 (sparc) and its telling me that i need a cd-rom driver (even though it booted from that drive before) and installation won't continue, any ideas or hints ?
[02:19] <deepu> how to install times new roman font in the libre office
[02:19] <ehhh> i'm a bit out of date, i can't run gnome apps on xubuntu can i?
[02:19] <ehhh> or rather, how is app support on xubuntu?
[02:19] <sweettea> deepu: i think theres a font library/package you can install
[02:20] <Buggzy1011> hi
[02:20] <deepu> where i can find it
[02:20] <deepu> AND how to install it
[02:21] <Peyam> ehhh: never had problems
[02:21] <Peyam> deepu: google!
[02:21] <devish> deepu: did you tried google
[02:22] <ehhh> good stuff . . btw concerning .mkv, i just tried it in mplayer and this is REALLY something else compared to vlc
[02:22] <pyasi> guys, no ping...
[02:22] <crazyhorse> I did an apt-get update/upgrade and now my resolution has a max res of some crappy 1024*768 for both my monitors.. any idea what the fix for this is?
[02:23] <ehhh> i thought my computer was being slow, turns out it was vlc :P
[02:23] <Peyam> haha
[02:23] <Peyam> ehhh: is it better?
[02:23] <Peyam> mplayer?
[02:24] <Peyam> the first thing I did with my dist was removing mplayer
[02:25] <ehhh> Peyam: yes it runs way smoother, i won't say for the xfce version i'm using smplayer and it's an extreme improvement, it was skipping frames in vlc and now it's smooth as . . i'd give it a try
[02:25] <devish> crazyhorse: how you got this name
[02:26] <Peyam> Do you have a stone-age computer?
[02:26] <ehhh> yup, i think it's about
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> ehhh, I recommend using mpv
[02:26] <ehhh> 7 years :P
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> a fork of mplayer/mplayer2 that's up-to-date and active
[02:27] <Peyam> what's wrong with vlc?
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> (you can install it with mplayer/mplayer2 being installed cuz the bin is in a diff place)
[02:27] <crazyhorse> devish: this is crazy horse one-eight, have individuals with weaopons
[02:27] <Peyam> I ve used it since.. I dunno ever
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> vlc.... yeah that player is horrible for me on linux and on windows lol
[02:27] <ehhh> Ari-Yang: i'll give it a shot :)
[02:28] <Peyam> why is it horrible?
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> @ ehhh http://mpv.io/
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> @ Peyam tried playing 10-bit stuff and VLC couldn't play it properly.
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> I use mpc-hc on windows and mpv on ubuntu
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> anyway, not sure if this is the right chan to talk about this stuff, should be discussed on #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <Peyam> does it read all formats (or many of them)?
[02:29] <crazyhorse> devish: http://www.collateralmurder.com/en/transcript.html
[02:29] <Ari-Yang> Peyam, I guess? mplayer/mplyaer2/mpv plays mostly all formats just fine
[02:29] <Ari-Yang> Peyam, are you looking to install mplayer/2/mpv or vlc?
[02:29] <Peyam> hmmm and is it light weighter than vlc
[02:29] <Peyam> ?
[02:29] <Ari-Yang> yes
[02:29] <pyasi> guys, no ping...
[02:30] <Peyam> wel I do have vlc
[02:30] <Peyam> but im just a little bit chocked that people think there is something better :D
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> nubcake, This from the live session?
[02:30] <Ari-Yang> if you are, I recommend mpv (keep in mind that all mplayer media player family is run under terminal, except you can get front-end gui for mplayer and mplayer2 like smplayer/smplayer2 or gnome-mplayer)
[02:31] <Peyam> hmm I should remember that! that VLC loads after 5 sec when I wana see a movie
[02:31] <Peyam> maybe I should say good bye to it as I did to irssi
[02:32] <ehhh> Ari-Yang: so mpv is basically a mplayer build and smplayer for example will use mpv as *kernel*? (if i used that word correctly)
[02:32] <thecodeischaos> vlc plays 1080p movies the instant i click them
[02:32] <thecodeischaos> i mean 720p actually.. not tried 1080p yet
[02:32] <Ari-Yang> ehhh, current front end gui do not work with mpv, only mplayer.... Like smplayer2 is a gui for mplayer2, smplayer is a front end for mplayer
[02:32] <Peyam> so what is the best media player now?
[02:32] <crazyhorse> hey guys.. both my monitors used to work but since an update they are now only loading in low-resolution .. i've resintalled ubuntu desktop and rebooted but that didn't work
[02:33] <Ari-Yang> to use mpv you run it in terminal, for e.g. mpv path-to-vid-file-here then it will play
[02:33] <Peyam> I like to right click and press Play
[02:33] <Ari-Yang> !best
[02:34] <Peyam> so many terminals is a issue for me since I have a small screen
[02:34] <Ari-Yang> Peyam, I made a .desktop file where I can just double click on the file and it will automatically run mpv for me
[02:34] <Ari-Yang> https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build there are instructions to install mpv
[02:34] <Ari-Yang> afk, dinner
[02:34] <ehhh> thx, i'll def check it out
[02:35] <pyasi> guys, no ping...
[02:36] <ehhh> also there's a ubuntu channel filled with bots?
[02:36] <Peyam> Ari-Yang: yes having a .dekstop file is something but when you clicking on the file is something else. it automaticly opens the player when you double click on it?
[02:36] <Ari-Yang> Peyam, yes it does, that's the point of me making that .desktop file, is so that when I double click it will open up mpv on its own lol (afk dinner)
[02:37] <somsip> !details | pyasi
[02:37] <Peyam> yes the .desktop file opens the player. but if I double click on a .avi file. wil that automatily open the player?
[02:38] <pyasi> my internet doesn't work in live cd, it gets connected to the router, can load router's homepage, but can't run other sites, please help me ,plz
[02:39] <AdieChrist> :/
[02:39] <Peyam> pyasi: use a wired connection
[02:40] <Peyam> ohhh now I know sorry
[02:40] <pyasi> peyam, sorry, but can't i run wireless??
[02:41] <Peyam> it should be possible
[02:41] <Peyam> check if firefox in not in offline mode
[02:41] <pyasi> i get ping from router , but not other
[02:41] <Peyam> is it really your router? and not neighbeurs?
[02:42] <Peyam> hahah
[02:44] <Peyam> well what can I say
[02:44] <L3top> Hi all... what would make my ssh "man in the middle" attack warning NOT fire when I ssh into different systems at the same address with the same un?
[02:46] <Peyam> pyasi: it should be possible but use ur wire for now!
[02:46] <pyasi> Peyam: man i don't have wire(ethernet cabale)
[02:47] <Peyam> you have one inside your router.
[02:48] <pyasi> Peyam: sorry, i don't have that
[02:48] <sweettea> L3top: what?
[02:48] <pyasi> Peyam: so need to configure it, why its not working...??
[02:48] <Peyam> is your webbrowser in offline mode?
[02:48] <sweettea> maybe dns
[02:48] <sweettea> ping 8.8.8.8
[02:49] <ehhh> pyasi: if you connect with cable you can diagnose whether it's the pc or the router that's at fault. . do you have more computers that you can try out? alternatively try unplugging the router briefly and plugging it back in and try again
[02:49] <pyasi> Peyam: no not in offline
[02:49] <ehhh> oh wait, i'm a genius aren't i
[02:50] <ehhh> lol
[02:50] <L3top> sweettea: when you instantiate an ssh session a key is stored, and then on each reconnect it is checked. If the key does not check, then it should warn you that you may be the victim of a man-in-the-middle attack. It is somewhat annoying usually... however its lack of appearance would lead me to believe that ssh is no longer checking keys. I am wondering how, for obvious reasons, this could occur, and perhaps some direction to
[02:50] <L3top> investigate.
[02:50] <pyasi> ehhh: man, its working in my laptop in which its windows(pre-installed)
[02:50] <ehhh> pyasi: yeah i realised you must have some way to communicate with us now :P
[02:50] <pyasi> ehhh: it used to work in this same laptop when installed, but doesn't work in the live cd
[02:51] <Peyam> does the status bar say that you are connected?
[02:51] <pyasi> sweettea: not working ping...
[02:51] <ekaj> Tryin to set a static IP in ubuntu server 12.04.2 LTS, I have the lines: iface eth0 inet static | address 10.0.0.205 | gateway 10.0.0.1 | netmask 255.255.255.0 but it doesn't work. On my other computers <windows> it works if I specify Google DNs, but adding the "nameserver 8.8.8.8
[02:51] <ekaj> line doesn't work
[02:51] <somsip> L3top: possible you have actually logged in to that IP previously? I (sadly) have loads of old auth'd IPs that relate to cloud servers and I do sometimes get a match. Long shot I know...
[02:51] <ekaj> Nor does adding it to /etc/resolv.conf
[02:52] <pyasi> Peyam: yes, it is connected to the router, gives the homepage of router too
[02:52] <sweettea> L3top: you can do verbose ssh to see exactly what its doing
[02:52] <sweettea> my guess is, once the key is stored, and the compare makes out, no warn is necessary
[02:52] <Peyam> yes. but being conneted to router is not the same as connected to internet
[02:52] <L3top> somsip: they are duplicate systems with different keys. It always blows warnings when I swap back and forth between production and dev
[02:52] <L3top> thank you sweettea.
[02:53] <pyasi> Peyam: yes, i know ...
[02:53] <sweettea> ekaj: did you use /etc/network/interfaces
[02:53] <ekaj> es
[02:53] <ekaj> *yes
[02:53] <ekaj> that's where that stuff was
[02:53] <pyasi> Peyam: man, my router is connected to the internet, but laptop isn't
[02:53] <Peyam> pyasi: do this
[02:53] <Peyam> turn of the router for 20 sec
[02:53] <Peyam> and plug it in again
[02:53] <sweettea> im not sure what "does not work" means
[02:54] <sweettea> can you pinmg the gw?
[02:54] <Peyam> what is your router?
[02:54] <sweettea> what happens when you do ifup
[02:54] <ekaj> No, can't ping anything
[02:54] <sdl240> hi
[02:54] <pyasi> Peyam: 2wire547
[02:54] <ekaj> it says already configured
[02:54] <sweettea> ifconfig shows it is?
[02:54] <ekaj> ifup does
[02:54] <pyasi> Peyam: man , it is not the fault of router
[02:54] <sweettea> what does ifconfig
[02:54] <sweettea> say?
[02:55] <ekaj> shows inter addr, mask as I set it, Bcast as 10.0.0.2555
[02:55] <ekaj> *255
[02:55] <sweettea> do you have ethtool installed?
[02:55] <ekaj> could ipv6 be interfering?
[02:55] <sweettea> do ethtool eth0
[02:55] <sweettea> no
[02:56] <pyasi> Peyam: are u there??
[02:56] <ekaj> it's not installed
[02:56] <Peyam> pyasi: just turn it off and on
[02:56] <sweettea> is your cable legit/connected
[02:56] <sweettea> trace it
[02:56] <sweettea> maybe you have more than 1 nic
[02:56] <fbdystang> Hi, I have a USB-microsd card adapter that shows up with lsusb, but does not give a blkid. Please advise
[02:56] <pyasi> Peyam: i did it 100 times man, didn't work
[02:56] <ekaj> Me?
[02:56] <ekaj> It's a VM, it works when I have DHCP on
[02:56] <Peyam> pyasi: u waited for 10-20 secs?
[02:56] <somsip> !who
[02:56] <sweettea> oic
[02:56] <sweettea> are you sure its eth0
[02:56] <ekaj> yes
[02:56] <pyasi> Peyam: if the router isn't working, how would i connect to the internet and freenode??
[02:56] <sweettea> do a dmesg | grep eth0
[02:57] <sweettea> when you have dhcp enabled, what IP does it pull
[02:57] <Peyam> pyasi: we just update the connections
[02:57] <sweettea> perhaps the vm is supposed to be on a diff network
[02:57] <somsip> !who | sweettea
[02:57] <ekaj> a random one in my dhcp range
[02:57] <ekaj> it's on the right network, the other 5 computers worked with these settings
[02:58] <pyasi> yes, did that also man
[02:58] <pyasi> Peyam: it doesn't work, i think there's dNS problem....how to fix it??
[02:58] <ekaj> sweettea: It doesn't say anything about ipv4, it says ipv6 isn't ready
[02:59] <Peyam> pyasi: my suggestions : 1) read your router homepage if something is wrong there! 2) restart it  3) if you have other wifi devices change the wifi channel of your router! More than than I dont know
[02:59] <pyasi> Peyam: ok thanks for your help and try...
[03:00] <Peyam> sorry I coulndt help. it happend me once I dont remember how I solved it
[03:00] <pyasi> Peyam: ok man
[03:00] <sweettea> ekaj: what network are your vms supposed to be on? Did you enable a bridge or nat?
[03:02] <ekaj> NAT.. they're on the right network
[03:02] <fbdystang> Hi, I have a USB-microsd card adapter that shows up with lsusb, but does not give a blkid. Please advise
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Is there a card in it?
[03:03] <partounian> Hey guys I installed a theme pack, but how do I use it?
[03:03] <fbdystang> wilee-nilee: yes, i just used a dd command to dd an image over
[03:03] <pyasi> partounian: use gnome tweak tool
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, A dd does not make a partition if you dd to the sdX, not sure if a blkd shoes it really.
[03:04] <sweettea> ekaj: well something isup, check iptables maybe blocking icmp
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> *blkid shows*
[03:04] <sweettea> or do like i suggested
[03:04] <fbdystang> wilee-nilee: I pulled the usb out and plugged back in and now it can't see it
[03:04] <sweettea> ekaj: compare why dhcp works and static does not
[03:04] <partounian> pyasi: I'm on 10.04
[03:05] <pyasi> partounian: download gnome tweak tool and install it
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Take a look from gparted or the disks app, run a fdisk -l and see if it is shown.
[03:06] <AdieChrist> my sister is my partner in crime.
[03:06] <sweettea> can anyone tell me why my stupid thunderbird unity alerts no longer work on 13.04?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Does it have a partition?
[03:07] <fbdystang> wilee-nilee: It should, I downloaded the image and it is supposed to have 3 ready made partitions. fdisk -l shows nothing. Gparted can't see it. What am I missing?
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Did you dd to a partition or to just the card?
[03:08] <prooty> hello. i'm working on appindicators in ubuntu, and i notice that other appindicators change their icons when the theme changes. is there documentation on how to do it?
[03:09] <fbdystang> wilii-nilee: sudo dd if=ArchLinuxARM-olinuxino-latest.img of=/dev/sdc1
[03:10] <fbdystang> wilii-nilee: Did I "of" to the wrong place?
[03:10] <drags> u/win 24
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> sweettea, Here is some general info.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/287525/thunderbird-missing-from-messaging-menu-dash
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Not sure I never dd, I just wondered if you dd to the card and wiped the partitions
[03:11] <fbdystang> wilee-nilee: if so, how do I mount it again to reformat?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Try sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt
[03:12] <Tux_1> Can you set up Ubuntu 12.04 desktop so it will boot to command prompt
[03:12] <somsip> !text | Tux_1
[03:13] <partounian> On Grub2 how can I remove my old kernel boot option and leave the new ones.
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, I'm assuming it will still be seen as sdc
[03:13] <holstein> partounian: autoremove will remove the old ones, but i would keep one or a few old ones around
[03:13] <fbdystang> desktop:/$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[03:13] <fbdystang> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:14] <partounian> holstein: thanks.
[03:14] <somsip> partounian: or if you want the longer approach, this looks decent http://is.gd/T7YIK1
[03:14] <Tux_1> somsip: thanks
[03:15] <sweettea> wilee-nilee: did you just google that, or did you do that to fix it?
[03:15] <sweettea> uninstall/reinstall
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, I googled it, I have not had the problem, nor use unity.
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> sweettea, ^^^^ sory fbdystang
[03:16] <fbdystang> :)
[03:17] <fbdystang> wilee-nilee: basically how can I still mount it if it doesn't show up in the blkid?
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Not sure really.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> fbdystang, Might be the computer I have a acer d250 that is really problematic with a mini flash card.
[03:19] <numberto> Hi guys, unity does not work. I believe it just does not start (I believe it is some problem with nvidia).
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> !details > numberto
[03:20] <holstein> numberto: what makes you think its nvidia?
[03:22] <sweettea> well the reinstall got 1 of the alerts working
[03:22] <sweettea> rofl
[03:22] <numberto> holstein: I have ubuntu 13.04 and graphic card nvidia optimus gt 520m.  I did something and when I booted I had black screen. With nomodeset I was able to get into ubuntu but screen resolution is 1024x728, while it should be larger. I just don't know how to debug it.
[03:22] <numberto> I do have bumblebee installed
[03:23] <numberto> and I don't have unity working. I could start browser and pidgin via terminal
[03:24] <holstein> numberto: was it working before bumblebee?
[03:24] <numberto> holstein: I had it working with bumblebee before. Now I just reinstalled it.
[03:25] <holstein> numberto: what broke it?
[03:26] <numberto> I have no clue. I did messed up with grub while trying to install arch on other partition. That is it. I fixed grub now. But have issues with my screen resolution.
[03:27] <numberto> holstein: it might be that there were some setting in grub, which I messed.
[03:27] <holstein> numberto: all i can do is suggest troubleshooting by removing variables.. remove the xorg.conf.. remove the nvida driver.. etc
[03:29] <partounian> So installed ubuntu tweak, but I still can't use my downloaded theme.
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> partounian, You have a link to the theme?
[03:30] <partounian> The highest rated on gnome-look.org, and I installed it via apt-get.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> partounian, Is it gtk 3
[03:31] <partounian> wilee-nilee, gtk? I'm on 10.04 with gnome 2.
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> partounian, Ah, and that is not supported...end of life, the server is, not the desktop.
[03:32] <mizo_96> Hi has anyone been able to kickstart ubuntu from the LAN fully as in not refer to an online apt repo OR download 50 gigs useing apt-mirror, anyone done a full automated kickstart ubuntu install from the DVD??
[03:32] <partounian> wilee-nilee, I
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> partounian, Not an area I'm real up on, someone might be though.
[03:32] <partounian> wilee-niee, I'm only using it to compile Android which is best supported on 10.04
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> partounian, I'm just giving you a heads up on support is all. ;)
[03:33] <partounian> wilee-nilee: Okay I understand.
[03:36] <partounian> So anyone here know how to set a theme on Gnome 2(10.04)?
[03:37] <holstein> partounian: i always just downloaded them back then.. i remember it being pretty easy.. are you sure you are getting themes that are made for gnome2?
[03:38] <partounian> holstein: "Just downloaded"?
[03:38] <holstein> partounian: correct.. from the internet.. nothing special
[03:39] <holstein> partounian: whats the issue? do you have one that is makde for gnome2 that is not working?
[03:40] <holstein> partounian: im assuming you are talking about adding one you downloaded.. setting the themes would happen in the theme manager.. i think you just right click and go to "look and feel" or something similar
[03:40] <zz0> plymouth ask. Anybody knows how to implement custom tty's screens using plymouth
[03:41] <zz0> like the old bootsplash
[03:41] <hola> list
[03:42] <hola> list #
[03:42] <partounian> holstein: It just says Gnome icon theme pack.
[03:42] <holstein> partounian: it?
[03:42] <holstein> partounian: i have no idea what you have downloaded or what you are looking at, or why you are not running 12.04, or 13.04.. so, please share as many releavant details as possible
[03:43] <NaOH> the useradd man page tells me not to use the --password flag because the password will be visible to users listing the processes. can i avoid this problem by using chpasswd which takes the username/password via stdin?
[03:44] <NaOH> in other words, is chpasswd safer?
[03:44] <partounian> holstein: I am running 10.04 because that is the best version to develop Android OS on, but the file was the highest rated file on gnome-look.org
[03:45] <holstein> partounian: i would talk to the developer, or try another download.. sounds like it doesnt support the desktop you are using.. android can be developed on any ubuntu.. i wouldnt stay back at 10.04 for that
[03:45] <kostkon_> partounian: 10.04 desktop is eol and is not supported here anymore
[03:46] <kostkon_> partounian: both 10.04 and gnome 2 are dead
[03:46] <holstein> thats right.. the server version is still supported partounian , but the desktop is over.. even gnome doesnt support gnome2, and there is nothing you need to do with android that you cant do in 12.04 or 13.04
[03:46] <OerHeks> those gnome-look themes should have a readme
[03:51] <d4rkn30> Im getting a gpg error while doing apt-get update on server 12.04
[03:52] <holstein> d4rkn30: what error?
[03:52] <d4rkn30> holstein, hold on ill ssh in and pastebin the output
[03:55] <d4rkn30> holstein, http://pastebin.com/humUXU7f
[03:57] <holstein> d4rkn30: this looks like it would do the trick
[03:57] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[03:58] <zz0> all /part
[03:59] <d4rkn30> holstein, Crap,
[04:01] <d4rkn30> holstein, http://pastebin.com/LF7j2psF
[04:02] <holstein> d4rkn30: thats a different error
[04:02] <holstein> are you able to ping 91.189.91.15 80 ?
[04:03] <Zeroedout> mizo_96: I have installed Ubuntu purely from the LAN
[04:03] <Zeroedout> You use tftp boot and NFS to boot the livedvd/cd over the network
[04:03] <Zeroedout> I use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro as my guide
[04:03] <mizo_96> I use cobbler atm
[04:03] <mizo_96> to distribute centos machines
[04:03] <mizo_96> Nice I am going to do it from centos
[04:04] <mizo_96> so I am going to mount a ubuntu iso
[04:04] <mizo_96> use apt tools to install apt programs on centos
[04:04] <d4rkn30> holstein, thats what it gave me back after i did what that topic suggested
[04:04] <mizo_96> create an aptrepo from cd
[04:04] <mizo_96> then publish it in apache
[04:04] <holstein> d4rkn30: i understand that.. can you ping the address?
[04:04] <mizo_96> so it can be installed of the lan
[04:05] <d4rkn30> holstein, yeah i can ping it
[04:05] <d4rkn30> holstein, it comes back as per normal ping
[04:05] <holstein> d4rkn30: then, i would just try it again.. sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <d4rkn30> same thing, is there a way i can have it auto detect which server is best for my location
[04:06] <mizo_96> nice guide Zeroedout
[04:06] <holstein> d4rkn30: if you can ping it, thats not the issue
[04:06] <NickGarvey> hi, I'm trying to insert my own script into the initramfs and it doesn't appear to be working, which wouldn't be that big of a problem but I can't for the life of me get boot debugging messages
[04:07] <Zeroedout> mizo_96: Just be sure that if you do use it, copy over the .disk file from the Ubuntu ISO as it won't do it with the commands provided
[04:07] <d4rkn30> holstein, isnt there a timeout ?
[04:07] <Zeroedout> I've wanted to update the section for years, but keep forgetting, i'll do it now
[04:07] <NickGarvey> how do you enable boot debugging messages? I have put a Yes in /etc/defaults/bootlogd and nothing has changed - which seems to be the case for more recent versions of ubuntu
[04:08] <holstein> d4rkn30: if you can ping it, you can ping it.. i mean, spend time troubleshooting your connection to the server if you want, but you *can* ping it
[04:09] <d4rkn30> well i know that, the thing is i can  update the desktop no problem on the same connection,
[04:09] <holstein> d4rkn30: what did you do before it broke?
[04:09] <d4rkn30> Nothing its a fresh install
[04:10] <holstein> d4rkn30: so, you finished installing.. booted, got the error you showed me, then ran the command i linked, then got this error? nothing esle?
[04:10] <holstein> else*
[04:10] <d4rkn30> holstein, Nope Nothing at all
[04:11] <holstein> d4rkn30: im the kind of guy who would compare the sources from the machine that works
[04:11] <d4rkn30> holstein, i never thought of that seeings as i thought it would be the same as both are recent installes
[04:12] <holstein> d4rkn30: confirm if they are....
[04:12] <d4rkn30> ones 12.04 ( server) and the other is 13.04
[04:12] <holstein> d4rkn30: then, they will be different.. and it wont do you any good
[04:12] <holstein> d4rkn30: also, it irrelevant that one is connecting, since its connecting to a different place
[04:12] <d4rkn30> holstein, well no one will say precise and the other raring
[04:13] <holstein> d4rkn30: could be the mirrors are down
[04:13] <d4rkn30> holstein, its the main ubuntu mirrors
[04:14] <holstein> d4rkn30: that can be down
[04:14] <holstein> d4rkn30: im not saying they are... since you can ping them.. im just offering possible solutions
[04:14] <d4rkn30> holstein, the only two diffrences between the sources.list is the release name
[04:14] <d4rkn30> holstein, same set of mirrors
[04:15] <holstein> d4rkn30: yet, one is working and the other is not
[04:15] <d4rkn30> holstein, yeah ikr odd.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !register
[04:36] <pzhnathaniel> hello everyone
[04:37] <pzhnathaniel> anyone here?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> pzhnathaniel, yes.
[04:38] <pzhnathaniel> Who can tell me how could I find a theme of empathy
[04:39] <NickGarvey> https://www.google.com/search?q=theme+of+empathy
[04:42] <pzhnathaniel> thank you but I also like looking theme file but find difficult to fully apply my system is ubuntu 13.04
[04:43] <holstein> pzhnathaniel: what theme?
[04:43] <pzhnathaniel> One Click Install Of Adium Themes In Empathy
[04:44] <holstein> pzhnathaniel: where did you get the theme? do they provide support?
[04:44] <NickGarvey> !help
[04:44] <pzhnathaniel> no, without any help
[04:44] <pzhnathaniel> I appreciate your help to express my sincere gratitude
[04:44] <holstein> pzhnathaniel: where did you get it?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Linux/ubuntu/X  in general does themes in a very radical way compared to windows ;)
[04:45] <Dr_willis> I dident even know empathy was themeable
[04:46] <NickGarvey> !china
[04:47] <ZigSphere> !english
[04:47] <pzhnathaniel> Gaia.AdiumMessageStyle
[04:48] <holstein> pzhnathaniel: did you download the theme from a site? where did you get it?
[04:48] <pzhnathaniel> I forget address
[04:48] <pzhnathaniel> sorry~~~
[04:48] <pzhnathaniel> ;-)
[04:50] <jetole> hey guys. I'm running dnsmasq and resolvconf and have them both pretty much the way I want them except my final /etc/resolv.conf has a dns search domain added from dhcp from my ISP and I don't want that. Does anyone know how I would exclude that?
[04:51] <acerimmer> !register
[04:51] <ZigSphere> Cant you edit your resolv.conf?
[04:52] <jetole> ZigSphere: yes but when resolvconf reruns then it's reverted. I edited /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base to have the domain search I want but the ISP added domain is being added prepending the other ones
[04:53] <ZigSphere> I see
[04:53] <ZigSphere> So you want to set it without being changed.  I would totally write a script
[04:54] <jetole> ZigSphere: I can write a script if I want but I shouldn't need to. There has to be a way. I want dnsmasq to keep using the dhcp based dns servers and just not the domain search but not sure where to edit
[04:55] <holstein> pzhnathaniel: i, nor anyone else, will likely be able to help.. ir you are having issues, assume its that the theme you have is bad, and stop trying to use it
[04:55] <ZigSphere> yeah.  Makes sense
[04:55] <jetole> dnsmasq? resolvconf? /etc/network/interfaces? /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf?
[04:55] <somsip> jetole: add 'dns-nameservers' to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:55] <somsip> jetole: eg: dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1
[04:55] <jetole> somsip: I want to disable the domain search path. Not the dns nameservers
[04:55] <somsip> jetole: ok - point missed
[04:55] <Sazpaimon__> does the minimal CD allow for full disk encryption or only home folder encryption?
[04:56] <ZigSphere> arent nameserver set in resolv.conf?  not interfaces
[04:56] <ZigSphere> unless you can set them in both
[04:56] <jetole> somsip: the line that starts with search in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:56] <jetole> ZigSphere: you can but it's not the name servers themselves I want to change
[04:56] <ZigSphere> search domain.local
[04:56] <ZigSphere> eg
[04:56] <somsip> jetole: resolv conf get s overwritten. You or someone else already said that
[04:57] <jetole> but on ubuntu 12.04 if you use dhcp and you edit resolv.conf instead of /etc/network/interfaces then you will lose it
[04:57] <jetole> somsip: yes
[04:57] <jetole> so I want to know which program I would change and how I would change it to not accept search from eth0
[04:57] <ZigSphere> Ah - so setting DNS in interfaces will stick then
[04:57] <ZigSphere> I see
[04:57] <jetole> ZigSphere: yes but again, dns servers isn't what I want to change
[04:57] <ZigSphere> right
[04:57] <varunendra> jetole, are you using Network Manager?
[04:58] <jetole> varunendra: uh. it's running
[04:59] <jetole> varunendra: though I have mostly edited by hand interfaces, dnsmasq and resolvconf
[04:59] <varunendra> jetole, have you tried "Automatic (DHCP) address only" in NM ?
[04:59] <somsip> jetole: man dhclient.conf and look up supersede. Looks like the way to go
[04:59] <varunendra> I believe this is where dnsmasq picks up settings.
[04:59] <jetole> somsip: vaguely familiar with it but don't know what to supercede with to leave it null
[04:59] <jetole> varunendra: don't want to lose dns servers though
[05:00] <varunendra> you will have to put them in NM then.
[05:00] <varunendra> That should stick
[05:00] <jetole> just the domain it adds to search, i.e. if I type http://support/ into the browser then it searches http://support.my-isp.com/ then http://support.my-vpn-to-company.com/
[05:00] <somsip> jetole: well look it up then. I found one example on the first search result https://calomel.org/dhclient.html
[05:00] <jetole> varunendra: but they are variable
[05:01] <varunendra> jetole, where does it get the DNS. From the DHCP server I guess?
[05:01] <jetole> varunendra: yes and thats fine
[05:01] <jetole> the dns servers are fine
[05:01] <pzhnathaniel> holstein: thank you
[05:02] <jetole> it's telling me that it wants to search my-isp.com if the hostname I use doesn't resolve / isn't an fqdn
[05:02] <varunendra> Unless your dhcp server is supplying that info, you can use the dhcp server's address in DNS field in nm.
[05:02] <Kow> upon further inspection, quassel-client is built on QT, quassel-client-kde4 is built using the KDE libs. which is awesome if you are not a KDE user :)
[05:02] <jetole> yes it is supplying that info via dhcp and that's what I am trying to disable
[05:03] <Kow> completely wrong channel, oops
[05:03] <Kow> but for the #ubuntu record, quassel is awesome
[05:03] <gRAVIty2> system shuts down randomly. Ubuntu 12.04 on lenovo x200 tablet. The logfile is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5794346/. The shutdown happened at 8:39. can you explain what is happening?
[05:07] <Ben64> gRAVIty2: that log doesn't have anything for the time when it shut down
[05:08]  * cfhowlett ... ain't nobody got time to read all that!
[05:09] <gRAVIty2> Ben64: 8:39:04 ?
[05:09] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: that's during the boot, not the shutdown
[05:10] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: how do I find what happened when it shutdown?
[05:11] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: when it shuts down, does it go through the shutdown process or does it just turn off?
[05:11] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: and does it turn off or reboot?
[05:12] <gRAVIty2> Nickgarvey: It displays some message with white text on black screen. let me get you pics of that.
[05:13] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: you can find the pictures when it shut down here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2154876
[05:13] <gRAVIty2> looks something like dmesg
[05:14] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: that right there is a kernel panic
[05:14] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: what is it and what can i do to prevent that from happening?
[05:15] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: so a kernel panic is when your kernel detects that something is in a bad state and it doesn't want to continue at risk of doing damage
[05:15] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: this can only happen in 'kernel mode', the kernel itself and device drivers all run in kernel mode as they need access to hardware
[05:15] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: in this situation, it is almost certainly a device driver as you are on non-standard hardware
[05:16] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: the easiest and most likely way to fix this is to simply upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[05:16] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: it was working fine for a while. I had 10.04 also on this same laptop.
[05:16] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: newer versions have newer kernels
[05:16] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: thanks for that. could this be a hardware issue? I went to the service centre who ran diagnostics and said it is fine. Once in a while reboot happens even in windows
[05:17] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: yes, it certainly could. the 'BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request' /might/ be a memory problem, but based on the address in memory I tend to think otherwise
[05:17] <cfhowlett> gRAVIty2, the fact that it happens in windows as well pretty much rules out a linux only problem, yes?  I'd say hardware
[05:18] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: oh I didn't notice the windows part, yeah that more or less spells it out then
[05:18] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: check your wifi card and your memory would be my guesses
[05:18] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: Did memtest and it went through 5 passes without a hitch
[05:19] <NickGarvey> gRAVIty2: does this ever happen when your wireless card is off?
[05:19] <cfhowlett> gRAVIty2, memtest only tests mem ... whatever your fail trigger is seems not to be mem related...
[05:19] <robertjdohnert> gRAVIty2:  What type of notebook?
[05:20] <gRAVIty2> NickGarvey: I never used without wifi card recently. Now that you mention it - i started using wifi and the restarts seem to start at the same time. Wifi occasionally stops and i have to restart to start it
[05:20] <gRAVIty2> robertdohnert: lenovo x200 tablet
[05:20] <gRAVIty2> robertjdohnert
[05:20] <gRAVIty2> cfhowlett: is there a way to find the trigger
[05:22] <cfhowlett> gRAVIty2, over my head I'm afraid.  I'd hope that there's specific guidance in one of your logs, but I wouldn't know where to look.  Suggest you carefully document the fail mode and triggers.  When you can reproduce the fail, share that info with repair techs, forums, irc until someone points you to a fix.
[05:23] <gRAVIty2> cfhowlett: how do i document the failmode and triggers? can u help with that?
[05:23] <crazyhorse> i can't change the resolution on my monitors after an apt-get update
[05:23] <crazyhorse> what do i do?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> gRAVIty2, whenever it fails, immediately write down what you were doing, what apps were running, any error messages noted.  Once you see repeats of "first this >>> then that happened" you
[05:24] <cfhowlett> you've got an identifiable pattern and that will aid diagnosis.  Or so the engineers tell me.
[05:24] <vlad205> crazyhorse: what type of video do you have on what processor
[05:25] <crazyhorse> intel i5, Intel HD
[05:25] <gRAVIty2> cfhowlett: that helps!
[05:25] <jetole> got it! For those curious, the search was being set based on the domain name I was being assigned from the ISP which was visible via /run/resolvconf/interface/eth0.dhclient. I edited /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and in the request section I removed domain-search (which had no effect) and after realizing the domain was where resolvconf was setting it I removed domain-name
[05:25] <gRAVIty2> thanks
[05:25] <crazyhorse> vlad205: using P8 Z77-V
[05:25] <jetole> and that caused the ISP set domain from being removed from search in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:25] <cfhowlett> gRAVIty2, best of luck
[05:25] <gRAVIty2> :)
[05:26] <vlad205> crazyhorse: the only thing I could think to do is reconfigure xserver and the driver with dpkg-reconfigure
[05:26] <crazyhorse> vlad205: SOrry its's a Asus P8 Z77-V LE PLUS motherboard which uses the Z77 chipset with on-board Intel HD graphics.. Everything worked perfectly until i did an apt-get update/upgrade and now both monitors are locked in some really low crappy resolution
[05:26] <crazyhorse> vlad205: what does that command do?
[05:26] <NickGarvey> !resolution > crazyhorse
[05:27] <vlad205> check /etc/X11 and your xorg.conf file
[05:28] <vlad205> crazyhorse: I'd just purge what I installed and re-install and place the proper files in their proper places like xorg.conf
[05:28] <crazyhorse> NickGarvey: checking
[05:29] <crazyhorse> ubottu: I haven't installed any graphical restarted stuff
[05:29] <vlad205> lol
[05:29] <NickGarvey> crazyhorse: ubottu should have sent you a PM that contained a lot of useful information for your problem
[05:30] <crazyhorse> hey nick.. thanks i did
[05:30] <vlad205> there is a command to reconfigure the xserver google it
[05:30] <crazyhorse> going through it
[05:32] <vlad205> "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:33] <snufft> hey guys
[05:33] <snufft> stupid question: is it possible to own a folder, but not own its contents? and if so, will you be able to delete the folder when you don't own its content?
[05:33] <vlad205> check for an existing xorg.conf in etc/X11 move it to a *.backup and let the xorg regenerate it
[05:34] <NickGarvey> snufft: sounds like a good time for an experiment :)
[05:34] <vlad205> snufft yes, then no
[05:34] <snufft> NickGarvey, i actually have the situation at the moment and was trying to work out if i can't fix it because i'm doing something stupid :P
[05:35] <snufft> vlad205, that confirms that I can't fix the problem then :P thanks :)
[05:35] <crazyhorse> xrandr --addmode VGA1 1920x1080 :/
[05:35] <NickGarvey> I was under the impression that you could delete a folder with content you didn't own
[05:36] <crazyhorse> fixed it
[05:36] <NickGarvey> vlad205: why do you think otherwise? and snufft what error are you having?
[05:36] <crazyhorse> thanks.. erm that was weird though :D
[05:37] <vlad205> try it
[05:37] <NickGarvey> I did
[05:37] <snufft> NickGarvey, i have a shared host account where a few files are being generated by php, but they're assigned to nobody:nobody. I need to delete them but because I don't have su, I can't do anything to fix the problem
[05:37] <NickGarvey> the folder is gone with the 755 files owned by root gone as well
[05:37] <snufft> if i try and chown/chmod/chgrp i get the usual operation not permitted because i don't have privileges
[05:37] <somsip> snufft: write a php script to delete them. Called from a browser
[05:38] <snufft> somsip, i was going to try that next, but it's a bit of a strange situation. they're lock files for magento...
[05:38] <snufft> not sure if they're still in use and if i can stop that
[05:39] <snufft> i'll give it a shot though :)
[05:39] <crazyhorse> NickGarvey: thanks for that page
[05:39] <somsip> snufft: I neverused it. There should be a cleanup script if there is a file-drop script though. Easy enough to mangle one surely?
[05:39] <snufft> somsip, yeah, it should be ok :)
[05:39] <NickGarvey> crazyhorse: yup, ubottu is the best
[05:41] <krakken> so i recently installed kubuntu-full 13.04. i had lubuntu 13.04 and in the ldx terminal typed sudo apt-get install kubuntu-full. there r traces or lubuntu all over. is there any way to get rid of lubuntu and only run kubuntu?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !pure|krakken,
[05:41] <NickGarvey> !purge | krakken
[05:42] <vlad205> you got me there NickGarvey....I wasn't aware ownership of the directory changed previliges on the files in it
[05:42] <NickGarvey> vlad205: me either :P hence the experiment
[05:43] <jaalto> How do you check from bash script if OS is Ubuntu?
[05:44] <NickGarvey> jaalto: lsb_release -a
[05:44] <NickGarvey> jaalto: or lsb_release -i to save some parsing
[05:44] <krakken> well i havent removed anything
[05:45] <jaalto> NickGarvey: Thank you.
[05:45] <NickGarvey> jaalto: ah, better might even be sourcing /etc/lsb-release
[05:46] <krakken> my lubuntu desktop icons r on my kubuntu desktop... i have lubuntu software center mixed in and all kinds of stuff... feels like both running at same time kinda
[05:46] <NickGarvey> jaalto: . /etc/lsb-release; if [ "$DISTRIB_ID" = "Ubuntu" ]; etc
[05:46] <krakken> i want my lubuntu to be pure lubuntu and kubuntu to be pure kubuntu
[05:46] <krakken> actually i wanna get rid of all lubuntu
[05:47] <samy_> hello
[05:47] <cfhowlett> samy_, greetings
[05:47] <samy_> how i can to remove or stop ssh?
[05:47] <krakken> mebbe i should of installed from alt f1 instead of lubuntu
[05:47] <samy_> many people know my root pswd
[05:47] <vlad205> krakken you might find this site useful. http://http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-ubuntu/
[05:48] <vlad205> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-ubuntu/
[05:48] <aeon-ltd> samy_: then it'd make more sense to change the pw
[05:48] <krakken> cant find
[05:49] <krakken> got it
[05:49] <krakken> too many http
[05:49] <cfhowlett> krakken, and this is why you don't install FULL until you know that's what you want
[05:49] <susundberg> samy_: sudo service sshd stop
[05:49] <cfhowlett> krakken, test with install of the DE only, imho
[05:50] <susundberg> samy_: but better is just to unplug the ethernet/wireless connection
[05:51] <Dr_willis> !purekde
[05:51] <krakken> that link seems to be working thank u
[05:51] <Dr_willis> I install all the differnt desktops. :) wife perfers one, kids like another..
[05:53] <samy_> thank
[05:54] <krakken> uh oh... couple of the last lines.
[05:54] <krakken> Removing guvcview ... Removing hardinfo ... Removing indicator-application-gtk2 ... Removing k3b ... Removing kubuntu-full ... Removing kdemultimedia ... Removing kdenetwork ... Removing kget ... Removing konq-plugins ...
[05:55] <Dr_willis> could be those packages are obsolete
[05:55] <Dr_willis> k3b is a kde burning app.
[05:55] <krakken> alright
[05:55] <Dr_willis> if you want all of lubuntu back, try reinstalling 'lubuntu-desktop' it should pull back in anything it needs
[05:55] <Dr_willis> or 'depends' on
[05:55] <Dr_willis> people worry way to much about whats installed. ;)
[05:56] <vlad205> krakken: I had to manually remove two packages when I dropped kde
[05:56] <NickGarvey> Dr_willis: shame there is no apt-get install * :P
[05:56] <krakken> just want it to pe clean
[05:57] <krakken> be
[05:57] <mikodo> This computer does not have a usb boot option in BIOS. Any way to make it able to do so?  http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=1
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !pxe|mikodo, pxe boot is one option
[05:58] <mikodo> cfhowlett, I look into it Thanks
[05:59] <NickGarvey> !pxe | mikodo
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Are you sure, anyway I have used this to boot a usb. http://www.plop.at/
[06:00] <vlad205> supergrub boot usb? anyone know
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> vlad205, Download it and load it to a usb.
[06:00] <mikodo> NickGarvey,  OK !pxe I'll look into it guys.
[06:01] <NickGarvey> mikodo: ah sorry I was trying to trigger the bot (who doesn't seem to know about pxe booting) search for "PXE Boot"
[06:01] <NickGarvey> mikodo: didn't mean to spam exclamation points :)
[06:01] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Yes. I'll check it out
[06:02]  * cfhowlett .. thinks the bot is getting senile.  It USED to know about PXE!
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> lol
[06:08] <somsip> !netboot
[06:08] <somsip> bah
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> the netinstall is a alternative install now
[06:10] <vlad205> anyone know of any live ubuntu sessions coming up on irc in the next few days
[06:10] <krakken> hmmm... looks like im gonna have to just wipe it all out and boot from disk for a pure copy
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> vlad205, live ubuntu sessions?
[06:11] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Cfhowlett: Thank you.    (PXE Boot and http://www.plop.at/) Why the Apple audio?
[06:11] <bakhtiyor> hi everyone
[06:11] <Dr_willis> krakken,  i think you are worrying about way too much.
[06:12] <cfhowlett> mikodo, apple audio?   doh!
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I find other desktops often have better tools for differnt tasks. so i always mixx up the differrent desktops.
[06:12] <vlad205> held by canonical
[06:12] <mikodo>  http://www.plop.at/ == audio of a Mac conference
[06:13] <krakken> idk... in all honesty im missing windows
[06:13]  * Dr_willis envisions chanting monks  repeating over and over 'macs are  still  innovative.....' ;)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> krakken,  huh?
[06:13] <krakken> ubuntu has been a nightmare
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> ohm.......ohm.....ohm
[06:13]  * Dr_willis spent most of the day fighting windows..    Windows is a nightmare.
[06:13] <mikodo> Dr_willis, I had hit the top button on the page (home)
[06:13] <krakken> what about linux mint?
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> krakken, Did you try removing lubuntu before trying the kde only?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> krakken,  i dont see the point in Mint really.. its not supported here either.
[06:14] <krakken> anyone toy with it
[06:14] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[06:14] <Dr_willis> I have no issues installing lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop and the gnome-shell desktop all on my single machine.
[06:14] <vlad205> krakken , mint is like ubuntu suse....I hate it though
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> mint is ubuntu in drag
[06:15] <vlad205> ubuntu has better support
[06:15] <krakken> no i didnt i just opened terminal and started removing
[06:15] <cfhowlett> vlad205, no question about that
[06:15] <krakken> there r way too many rules
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> krakken, started removing?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> rules? this channel is for official ubuntu variants.. Mint has its own channels..
[06:15] <krakken> yeah but now im adding 433 mb
[06:16] <Dr_willis> 433mb - egads. :) thats like the size of my..err.. printer drivers install on my windows box. ;P
[06:16] <krakken> no i mean rules in ubuntu
[06:16] <Dr_willis> krakken,  we dont know what rules you mean.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> or which 'ubuntu' you mean really. ;P
[06:16] <JohannKrauss> hello #ubuntu
[06:16] <krakken> lol
[06:16] <cfhowlett> JohannKrauss, greetings
[06:17] <Dr_willis> sadly im not over stateing it.. had a HP printer (well scanner also) and its driver install package was like 400+MB in size.
[06:17] <JohannKrauss> can someone help me define OOP in layman's term?
[06:17] <krakken> its all so knowledge intensive
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> krakken, I have used those removal lists and had it error with packages not found. I then remove that package from the removal list till I get a clean finish.
[06:17] <krakken> it is by no means user friendly. at least not to a casual user
[06:17] <cfhowlett> krakken, if you want an "idiot proof" OS, please see OSX ... good luck with that.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> krakken,  i had to read/google a lot today to fix this windows box for the grandkids.. so computers can be  problem free.. or very problematic  - it just depends on the problems.
[06:18] <krakken> u need a degree to use it
[06:18] <Dr_willis> OS-X is definatly not idiot proof. :) had it crash and burn also.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> krakken, "degree"?  you
[06:18] <Dr_willis> the 3rd degree!
[06:19] <cfhowlett> krakken, you're exaggerating.  You need to use the protocols and do a bit of research - as is the case with any/all tech.
[06:19] <NickGarvey> JohannKrauss: this isn't really the right channel for that.. but OOP is programming where code is grouped into 'objects' that contain both data and functions relating to that data
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> I learned ubuntu while getting a degree, not associated with computers though
[06:19] <krakken> eh
[06:19] <krakken> i guess
[06:19] <krakken> just seems like the honeymoon is over
[06:19] <Dr_willis> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming
[06:19] <mikodo> Honest to god, I am not spamming. I hit http://www.plop.at/ and opened this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe_0-rttIw  doh is right.
[06:20] <JohannKrauss> NickGarvey: yeah, sorry for asking in this channel. for unknown reason. I can't send a chat on others channel :(
[06:20] <krakken> i think theres a reason only 1% of the world uses linux
[06:20] <Dr_willis> krakken,  i think its MUCH higher then 1%
[06:20] <krakken> thats what i read
[06:20] <Dr_willis> given how all android phones/tablets could be considered to be 'using linux'
[06:20] <cfhowlett> krakken, and yet ... here you are?
[06:20] <xangua> krakken: and half the world have linux in their pocket :)
[06:21] <andrewSC> can someone tell me what I need to do to get the tun module to work? I've tried to modprobe and it doesn't exist, I think I need to enable it in the kernel but idk
[06:21] <Dr_willis> !find tun.ko
[06:21] <izx> I am getting ubuntu is running on low graphics mode.. How do i fix it??
[06:21] <andrewSC> hmmmm
[06:21] <krakken> yeah desperatly trying to make this work. when i pick a losing cause i really commit
[06:21] <NickGarvey> andrewSC: can you pastebin /boot/config-$(uname -r) ?
[06:21] <andrewSC> sure
[06:21] <Dr_willis> hmm. not even sure what user-mode-linux is. ;P
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !info user-mode-linux
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> izx, Are you updated and upgraded, have you checked additional drivers?
[06:22] <vlad205> low graphics mode???? do you mean resolution?
[06:22] <andrewSC> NickGarvey: http://pastebin.com/k3mzMQFK
[06:23] <NickGarvey> andrewSC: ah my mistake, could you paste the contents of that file?
[06:23] <vlad205> izx: Look under system settings /Display and change there.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> izx,  whats your video chipset and what driver are you using for it?
[06:23] <andrewSC> NickGarvey: that file is nonexistent and my /boot is empty
[06:23] <izx> wilee-nilee: No i have not done any recent changes.. I am stuck in the terminal..
[06:23] <andrewSC> this is a VPS
[06:24] <Dr_willis> andrewSC,  a vps can do things in very nonstandard ways  - from what ive seen.
[06:24] <andrewSC> VPS Image*
[06:24] <andrewSC> yeahhh :(
[06:24] <Dr_willis> well may be standard for a 'vps' :) but not for a normal ubuntu install
[06:24] <izx> Dr_willis: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[06:24] <NickGarvey> andrewSC: ah sorry that's entirely out of my knowledge set then
[06:24] <andrewSC> kk no worries
[06:25] <penos> hi
[06:25] <cfhowlett> penos, greetings
[06:25] <vlad205> hi
[06:30] <cfhowlett> vlad205, greetings
[06:30] <vlad205> cfhowlett, hey
[06:32] <Sazpaimon__> does the minimal CD allow for full disk encryption or only home folder encryption?
[06:34] <cfhowlett> Sazpaimon__, you can install full encryption although I don't know that that's actually ON the mini.  It can easily be added post initial install.
[06:35] <Sazpaimon__> cfhowlett, I assume when I install via mini I'll need to explicitly put /boot/ on another partition
[06:35] <Sazpaimon__> which I dont think the installer will do for me
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: yes you do, and yes it will
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: encrypting your main partition uses LVM which the installer handles intelligently
[06:36] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: however I can't speak for the minimal CD but I expect it is the same as the full minus a lot of packages
[06:36] <Sazpaimon__> do I need to use LVM? Can I just use LUKS without a mapper?
[06:36] <Sazpaimon__> I'd like to be able to mount the disk in windows using FreeOTFE
[06:37] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: you need a mapper, without one where in software would the decryption happen?
[06:38] <Sazpaimon__> i dont know, how does freeotfe manage to mount encrypted volumes on windows?
[06:39] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: same idea different implementation
[06:39] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: it looks like it is compatible with dm-crypt
[06:39] <Sazpaimon__> im asking because lvm isn't supported by any driver on windows
[06:39] <Sazpaimon__> ah, dm-crypt
[06:40] <Sazpaimon__> I guess this is going to be less straightforward than I thought
[06:40] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: I would try the installer, it might help you more than you think
[06:40] <Sazpaimon__> also, I just checked the mini-iso, it only allows me to encrypt my home directory
[06:40] <NickGarvey> Sazpaimon__: or maybe not :)
[06:40] <Sazpaimon__> I'll have to do it after the fact, then
[06:40] <Sazpaimon__> no biggie
[06:41] <Sazpaimon__> also, is it possible to have all of the grub, kernel, and initramfs files on the EFI system partition?
[06:42] <Sazpaimon__> my ESP is about 300MB, so it can fit all that
[06:42] <Sazpaimon__> i know ubuntu will prefer to have /boot be its own isolated partition, but I don't see why I can't use ESP for that
[06:43] <cfhowlett> Sazpaimon__, ubuntu prefers it's own partition?  Not my experience ...
[06:43] <cfhowlett> "/boot" partition that is ...
[06:43] <Sazpaimon__> if I'm using full disk encryption, it will
[06:44] <Sazpaimon__> otherwise, yeah, it will be part of /
[06:44] <Sazpaimon__> that being said, why not use the ESP for all that stuff?
[06:44] <hewthan> hey there
[06:45] <Sazpaimon__> so what's the procedure on getting an encrypted rootfs post-install? Anyone have a wiki link?
[06:47] <pzhnathaniel> hello  ~~~
[06:48] <cfhowlett> pzhnathaniel, greetings
[06:55] <benbloom> is there a difference between running rsync from a local drive to a sshfs thats mounted locally using fuse and running rsync using the traditional LAN method?
[06:58] <pzhnathaniel> maybe
[06:59] <JohannKrauss> based on this script https://github.com/iye/lightsOn/blob/master/lightsOn.sh. I got an error saying lightsOn.sh: line 52: syntax error near unexpected token `<'. can someone point me how to configure this?
[07:00] <JohannKrauss> I had zero experience with bash
[07:03] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, it seems that you should have only one "<" (the first one) in line 52.
[07:04] <Venerax> hm, is the issue that script tries to solve still present in 13.04?
[07:05] <JohannKrauss> varunendra: okay. I'll give em a try. thanks
[07:06] <JohannKrauss> varunendra: I got this error line 52: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:06] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, just FYI, it is an instance of the "while" loop reading input from the command after "done" in the end, one line at a time and looping while there is a line to read.
[07:06] <penos> how much is ubuntu professional edition
[07:06] <cfhowlett> penos, no such thing
[07:07] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, usually that is a file that is read by while loop that way. So I guess the second "<" in that line may actually be "$"
[07:07] <JohannKrauss> varunendra: I'm sorry. I just copy the script to prevent my screen from blanking when I'm watching movies etc, I know nothing about bash/programming
[07:08] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, what program do you use to watch movies? Usually some of them have settings to prevent the screen from going to sleep. I know that about only vlc though.
[07:08] <king_slayer> Good morning people
[07:09] <JohannKrauss> mplayer.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> king_slayer, greetings ... and it's afternoon here in China
[07:09] <Venerax> it used to be a problem for youtube as well, at least as i remember
[07:09] <Venerax> but i haven't had any problems since i updated a little while ago :/
[07:09] <JohannKrauss> varunendra: okay. just sorted thats out. but another error came out line 240: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[07:10] <king_slayer> I'm going to create a wiki with all the info related to the network I'm starting to admin... besides backup, services running, server description network map, common problems and solutions, what else should I add?
[07:10] <penos> king gaming
[07:11] <cfhowlett> !english|penos, ????
[07:11] <dual_> king_slayer: server base line stats
[07:11] <king_slayer> mmm what does that mean?
[07:11] <king_slayer> like stats?
[07:12] <dual_> get a baseline of the network, normal day to day loads and traffic
[07:12] <king_slayer> normal usage performance and things like that=?
[07:13] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, that script doesn't have a line 240. Was that the only error?
[07:13] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Just to be sure,   http://www.plop.at/  can be used to boot from usb (Win7 .iso) without BIOS supporting booting from USB?
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, HOw are you loading the W7 to the usb?
[07:14] <JohannKrauss> varunendra: yup
[07:14] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, I thought using the guide did that
[07:15] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, how do you run mplayer? Via command line or do you have a gui for it?
[07:15] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Oh, cp?
[07:15] <varunendra> I can see an option to disable screensaver in Smplayer.
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, I have only used plop a few times years ago it booted a usb on a computer that was to old, so I assume it does the same, with whatever ISO is correctly loaded. What guide are you meaning?
[07:16] <prooty> hello. i am developing a qt app through pyqt4 that uses an appindicator.
[07:17] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Using the plop one you suggested
[07:17] <prooty> how can i change the icon of the appindicator based on the current theme?
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> mikodo,  I'm not familiar with that part of the web site, can you give me a link.
[07:18] <kick-ass> :O
[07:19] <JohannKrauss> varunendra: gui. I also want to disable screen blanking while watching videos on youtube and such
[07:19] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, "Copy the files from /mnt/iso/ to the root directory of the USB drive". I am just referring to this one:  http://www.plop.at/
[07:21] <iceroot> mikodo: wilee-nilee you can not copy the content from an iso with cp to get a bootable device
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Not sure really if you have a windows setup you can use their usb loader. In ubuntu you can extract it to a usb formatted with a NTFS and a boot flag. you extract with the archive manager on a right click of the iso.
[07:22] <mikodo> iceroot, I guess that is why wilee-nilee asked
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, I never said you could.
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> I don't even know what cp is, lol
[07:23] <iceroot> wilee-nilee: the command for copy
[07:23] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, I just have buntus
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, I never said that, above I just posted the ways I have used to extract a W7 ISO to a usb to boot.
[07:25] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, So after extracting it to the usb, I should be able to follow plop to boot it?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, I would think so it would boot normally all plop does is enable it on computers that don't stock.
[07:26] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Yah! We win again. thanks.
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Is the disc reader broken?
[07:27] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, no works fine, I just have no option to boot from usb in Bios
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Ah, I would make a disc of the ISO at some point just for ease of access to repair...etc.
[07:28] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, OK
[07:30] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:30] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[07:30] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[07:30] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[07:30] <JohannKrauss> t
[07:30] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[07:30] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:31] <varunendra> JohannKrauss, I just tested the script myself, and it seems that line 52 is correct as it is in the original script. (that is "done < <(...")
[07:32] <varunendra> although I'm not getting any errors with the change either. JohannKrauss
[07:36] <LucidDreamZzZ> zykotick9, hehe i gave up a while ago...
[07:36] <moes> 12.04lts...I downloaded a program Moneydance.deb and installed using gdebi...I then e-mailed a file from another Pc and installed...the program is located at /opt/Moneydance/moneydance...I can open from a terminal or from file system..but the icon it insert in dash board will not open the program
[07:37] <LucidDreamZzZ> what version of ubuntu could i have if i have the bar thing on the left?
[07:37] <LucidDreamZzZ> its after version 10...
[07:38] <cfhowlett> LucidDreamZzZ, open a terminal and run lsb_release -a
[07:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> cfhowlett, ok about all i can do is use terminal one sec
[07:39] <mith_> any one help me
[07:39] <LucidDreamZzZ> X broken, im sure deleting xorg.conf would help
[07:39] <mith_> how to connect to any server using ftp
[07:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> mith where to?
[07:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> your system what program?
[07:40] <mith_> like google
[07:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[07:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> ff will??
[07:40] <ddssc> how do I search file contents in ubuntu ? (aka windows 'search file contents' )
[07:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> dunno
[07:41] <mith_> hey i configured ft-p
[07:41] <mith_> now what all can i do
[07:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok it say this system is precise, is that first release with dash (the bar thing)
[07:42] <cfhowlett> LucidDreamZzZ, so 13.04 ... latest release
[07:42] <Sala> Hello, I'm looking for some assistance. Trying to get a computer to boot up, trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, however, the previous owner seems to have bricked it, and am unable to get any of the boot devices to work. Any advice?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Sala, you should be able to set the bios to boot your ubuntu usb
[07:43] <mith_> hey anyone help
[07:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> i am trying to install nvidia 96, i know i had dash so i dunno what i did to make this work before
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !patience|mith_,
[07:43] <Sala> I've tried booting from both usb and cd (got an ubuntu install on both).
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !details|Sala,
[07:45] <Sala> It's a Toshiba laptop, HDD partially wiped, formerly running windows 8. Can't even get the option to finish wiping the hard drive.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !uefi|Sala,
[07:46] <Sala> The bios recognises the boot devices, however when I attempt to actually boot them, it fails to read the media.
[07:46] <mith_> how to use sftp
[07:46] <mith_> i have setup of ftp
[07:47] <cfhowlett> !ftp|mith_,
[07:47] <Sala> Thank you for the link, checking it out now.
[07:48] <Noskcaj> where can i download all the default icons for ubuntu?
[07:49] <bowsneiko> hello dear user. i have some logfiles with got the line "Wallclock runtime in mainloop: 154.0 seconds" in it. in that line i want to grep the 154.0 which is a random number. how can i do this with grep or sed?
[07:52] <Shiju_> Need help with internet
[07:52] <histo> !details | Shiju_
[07:52] <moes> 12.04lts...I downloaded a program Moneydance.deb and installed using gdebi...I then e-mailed a file from another Pc and installed...the program is located at /opt/Moneydance/moneydance...I can open from a terminal or from file system..but the icon it insert in dash board will not open the program
[07:53] <Shiju_> I am running 12.10...my internet connects and disconnects every few seconds
[07:53] <Shiju_> I have  a wired connection
[07:53] <histo> moes: take a looksee at the .desktop file and see what it's trying to do that it's not opening.
[07:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> is dash the newest thing?
[07:54] <Shiju_> it disconnects though it shows connected
[07:54] <histo> Shiju_: do other devices on the network stay connected? when it disconnects can you ping another host on your internal network?
[07:54] <Shiju_> I have to reconnect every few seconds
[07:54] <LucidDreamZzZ> trying to figure this out how i did it before
[07:54] <Shiju_> I am not very sure of technical things
[07:54] <histo> !unity | LucidDreamZzZ
[07:54] <Shiju_> a newbie
[07:55] <histo> Shiju_: well next time it goes down try pinging your router
[07:55] <LucidDreamZzZ> what problems Shiju_
[07:55] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok histo thanks!
[07:55] <Sala> The ubuntu I burned to a DVD can be used as a boot disc, correct?
[07:56] <DJones> Sala: Yes, it should boot into a try or install screen
[07:56] <DJones> Assuming its the desktop image
[07:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> !11.04
[07:56] <Sala> What if there is no OS on the computer I'm trying to install it on? Is there a different version I need?
[07:57] <DJones> Sala: No, as long as you've got the desktop iso, you can partition the drive on on the computer as you need and install directly from the disc
[07:57] <Sala> Alright. Thank you.
[07:57] <histo> Shiju_: ip route  should show you your gateway ip so you can try ping thatip  when it goes down next time to troubleshoot
[07:58] <moes> histo, It is trying to open a file instead of the program...I can drag and drop the program icon onto the dash board ..but when I open it also opens the file icon
[07:59] <histo> Shiju_: or ip neigh
[07:59] <histo> moes: did you create the icon?
[08:00] <Babin> guide me how to setup apt chace server
[08:01] <moes> histo, No the program icon was in dash for the program...the icon for the file is created when the program opens
[08:02] <Guest19631> Hi. I need to test this packages "“unity” 7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1 source package in Ubuntu". But i cannot find it in Raring Proposed.
[08:02] <Guest19631> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1
[08:02] <Babin> guide me how to setup apt chace server
[08:03] <histo> !repeat | Babin
[08:03] <histo> moes: I'm confused by what you mean do you mind rephrasing your question.
[08:04] <Babin> ok Sure
[08:05] <KHF> when I install cnijfilter-common
[08:06] <KHF> and cnijfilter-630series I get dependency errors
[08:06] <KHF> I am attempting to install drivers for a canon printer
[08:07] <KHF> on lucid
[08:08] <moes> histo, I downloaded a program Moneydance...added the backup file from another computer..When I open the program it adds an icon to the dashboard which tried to open the file and not the program..I moved the program icon from dash to the board..it open the program but also open an icon for the file
[08:08] <Guest19631> Hi. I need to test this packages "“unity” 7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1 source package in Ubuntu". But i cannot find it in Raring Proposed. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1
[08:09] <histo> moes: can you paste a screenshot of the issue
[08:09] <histo> !paste | moes
[08:10] <histo> Guest19631: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuUpdates  read the proposed section
[08:12] <Guest19631> histo: Think i already did it right. could it be that the package are not there yet?
[08:12] <Guest19631> histo: enabled proposed, updated. but the unity package i can se in synaptic, are an older version.
[08:13] <Darkyyy> hi
[08:13] <Darkyyy> i need support
[08:13] <susundberg> Darkyyy: !ask
[08:13] <susundberg> mh, sorry, i ment
[08:13] <susundberg> !ask > Darkyyy
[08:13] <Darkyyy> i started installing ubuntu 12.04 thru wubi
[08:14] <histo> Guest19631: could be not there. You could download it from the page you see it on there are download links.
[08:14] <Darkyyy> just after the installtion on windows finished my pc rebooted and got stuck on boot:
[08:15] <Guest19631> How long time does it take after a package to be available in the repoes after publishing
[08:16] <Darkyyy> please help me i'm stuck on "boot:" after installing using wubi
[08:18] <Darkyyy> what "no wubildr" means ?
[08:19] <k1l> Darkyyy: dont use wubi
[08:19] <k1l> wubi is hard to support and is not compatible with newer windows and uefi releases
[08:20] <Darkyyy> nvm
[08:20] <Darkyyy> somehow it's running now lol
[08:21] <moes> histo, http://imagebin.org/262437
[08:22] <Darkyyy> no ubuntu 12 for eeepc ?
[08:23] <moes> histo, The icon just below update manager is the Moneydance program..The green M is the file icon
[08:24] <histo> moes: So what is the issue if you click the one icon the program opens? if you click the other it tries to open a file?
[08:24] <histo> !info moneydance
[08:27] <Darkyyy> 12.04 is heavy for 4 years old eeepc ?
[08:28] <k1l> Darkyyy: if you want performance, dont use wubi
[08:29] <[Gentoo]> Darkyyy: use another desktop
[08:29] <Darkyyy> any recommendation ?>
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> Darkyyy  wubi will give you headaches and you'll think the system is no good
[08:29] <k1l> Darkyyy: wubi runs inside a container on the windows partition. that slows it down
[08:30] <[Gentoo]> Darkyyy: they all basically scale from prettiness > performance
[08:30] <moes> histo,  Is it normal that it make an addition icon
[08:31] <histo> moes: No but you are using a third party application so you'd have to contact the author to figure out why it did that.
[08:31] <histo> moes: you can right click and undock the unwanted icon.
[08:33] <moes> histo, Yes I can undock the unwanted one ..Thanks for the help will contact the author !!!
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: I'd go for Xubuntu, its light and LTS too (Lubuntu is not LTS)
[08:34] <Darkyyy> there used to be a netbook remix
[08:35] <[Gentoo]> do people actually care about lts on a desktop
[08:36] <ehhh> how much more stability / speed can i expect from xubuntu compared to ubuntu
[08:36] <phix> hey, I am looking Ubuntu for Android tablet at the Ubuntu site, just wondering how I actually download and install it
[08:37] <testing> hry
[08:37] <histo> ehhh: not necessarily more stability but definately more speed as you are not compositing every part of your desktop
[08:37] <[Gentoo]> ehhh: xfce is a lot faster than gnome / kde
[08:37] <histo> ehhh: why not try it and find out for yourself it's all free
[08:37] <testing> lubuntu is beter
[08:37] <histo> !touch | phix
[08:37] <popey> phix: #ubuntu-touch is probably the best channel for that, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install may help, as well as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[08:37] <phix> [Gentoo]: That is true, however I have gotten used to Unity now
[08:37] <phix> popey: thank you
[08:37] <k1l> phix: its still in development state. #ubuntu-touch for the ubuntu-touch or #ubuntu-arm for the desktop ubuntu
[08:37] <[Gentoo]> anything below xfce (openbox, window managers etc) are all pretty similar
[08:38] <ehhh> yeah i think im gonna try later when i can get some dvds running, on 12.04 some applications lag and the pc nearly crashed when i tried clementine lol
[08:38] <ehhh> opened the visuals and boom
[08:38] <histo> ehhh: you are heavily dependent on a 3d card while running unity
[08:39] <phix> k1l: ummm what's the difference?
[08:39] <phix> popey, k1l: Any ideas when a stable release is due?
[08:39] <popey> phix: october
[08:39] <k1l> phix: i think you are looking for the ubuntu touch channel
[08:40] <ehhh> so you'd recommend i run xfce over gnome? i've been familiar with xfce so it shouldn't be a problem . . can i get audacious working in xubuntu? i need one or three music players that i can browse with my phone
[08:40] <tokhi> Can some one help me with DansGuardian configuration: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157369 ?
[08:40] <tokhi> tnx
[08:40] <[Gentoo]> ehhh: why wouldnt audacious work?
[08:41] <ehhh> [Gentoo]: dunno, isn't it like some apps are designed for xfce and some for gnome? or do they cross platform?
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> they all work
[08:41] <ehhh> good stuff
[08:41] <phix> k1l: ok
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: the DE is irrelevant, you can run KDE apps in GGnome if you wish
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> ehhh: if you want to be minimal you can avoid a lot of deps
[08:42] <[Gentoo]> i use i3 which uses 3mb of ram
[08:42] <[Gentoo]> i dont want an app to pull in half of kde
[08:42] <[Gentoo]> but you can do what you like
[08:42] <ehhh> yeah i tried amarok on ubuntu but it is wayyyyyyyy too blattered lol though i get your point
[08:43] <[Gentoo]> ehhh: command line music players like ncmpcpp, cmus etc are really good and easy to use
[08:43] <[Gentoo]> and theyre fast
[08:43] <[Gentoo]> i taught my gf to use ncmpcpp couple days ago and she likes it
[08:43] <nyuszika7h> cvlc/nvlc is nice too
[08:44] <CIDR> Is there a way to make the ubuntu console not time out?
[08:44] <ehhh> [Gentoo]: yeah i looked at music on console and something, looks pretty good though i'm setting up media center pc and i want to browse the music library and launch songs from an android phone i dunno if i can do that with the command line players
[08:44] <CIDR> no gui, just console
[08:44] <CIDR> ehhh: have you looked into plex?
[08:44] <[Gentoo]> ehhh: ncmpcpp is a frontend to mpd which can be controlled remotely, i have no exp with android or phones though
[08:44] <nyuszika7h> CIDR: what console?
[08:45] <CIDR> nyuszika7h: just plane on console, no gui
[08:45] <Nick119119> Hey guys! I knwo this isn't realy the place but I'm not having the issue with Mint or Windows, But when I use firefox on a chatting site like Chatango, every message I send it asks me if It can use more space, but doesn't allow me to click on anything, so I have to reload the page every message I send and recieve
[08:45] <CIDR> Just logged in as a user running a command I want to stay up on a monitor and not go into standby or blank the monitor after 10 minuters or whatever
[08:45] <Nick119119> Is there a quick fix for this? Goggle was less then helpful
[08:45] <ehhh> CIDR: i remember coming across it yes, i tried xbmc on ubuntu 12.04 though and it ran horribly
[08:46] <[Gentoo]> CIDR: ah disable the screen blanking?
[08:46] <[Gentoo]> on the console?
[08:46] <ehhh> [Gentoo]: I'll look into ncmpcppp see what i can find out
[08:46] <[Gentoo]> i think thats a setterm command
[08:46] <CIDR> [Gentoo]: I tried that and it still blanks it
[08:46] <[Gentoo]> CIDR: what command did you try?
[08:46] <CIDR> ehhh: I run XBMC have for a long time, performance is great, what card are you using?
[08:46] <CIDR> [Gentoo]: lemme look
[08:47] <CIDR> setterm -powersave off
[08:47] <CIDR> setterm -blank 0
[08:47] <histo> CIDR: consoleblank=0  at boot should do it
[08:47] <histo> CIDR: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138918/how-do-i-disable-the-blank-console-screensaver-on-ubuntu-server
[08:48] <CIDR> trying that, thanks
[08:49] <ehhh> CIDR: some nvidia standard chipset, i think around 2ghz single core cpu. . it's about 7 years old stationary, when i tried xbmc it lagged way too much so i'm considering sticking with mplayer
[08:51] <ehhh> vlc has the proper file browser i can't seem to find it in smplayer, though i haven't looked too hard
[08:52] <CIDR> ehhh: it's all about the video card when it comes to xbmc
[08:52] <ehhh> CIDR: yeah i'm not even running hdmi, just standard vga lol
[08:53] <CIDR> Gotcha
[08:53] <CIDR> I have it on my 106" so 1080p is basically a must
[08:53] <CIDR> but with a cheap 50 dollar card you can offload full blu ray and audio to the video card
[08:53] <ehhh> man can i have yoor tv 47" i can't fucking read the text
[08:54] <ehhh> i can run videos fine though but you think a cheap graphics card would be a viable upgrade?
[08:54] <k1l> please stick to a proper language :)
[08:54] <CIDR> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/830372_10151504067554414_1360911688_o.jpg
[08:55] <ehhh> awesome man
[08:55] <CIDR> I mean I run mine on an older core 2 duo, lower ghz, 2 gb of ram, and there's 0 lag
[08:55] <ehhh> it looks really great man, what speakers are you using?
[08:55] <CIDR> The fronts are JBL L890's
[08:56] <CIDR> sub is a JBL L8400, center a LC2
[08:56] <CIDR> center isn't in that picture, didn't have the shelf there yet
[08:56] <ehhh> lol i'm considering getting the JBL studio 580 / 590 though sticking to stereo + a fat sub
[08:56] <ehhh> or two subs
[08:57] <CIDR> you miss a lot without a center channel
[08:57] <ehhh> yeah it's the main channel for voices
[08:58] <smoke_> anyone using dvdstyler successfully with 13.04?
[08:59] <ehhh> but i'm more 70-80% music guy and then games and then i watch series/films that's my priorities so i think i can get a lot out of stereo speakers alone but i'm still  a bit unsure whether i should go for horn tweeter speakers or normal dome/ribbon tweeter speakers, i need to demo some more lol
[09:01] <doebi> i killed my GRUB on my dualboot system, how can i fix it? (reinstall it)
[09:01] <somsip> !fixgrub | doebi
[09:02] <doebi> somsip: ty
[09:02] <Slartibart> Anyone here using Remmina? I purged it with apt-get and reinstalled it. Package name mentioned during install is remmina_1.0.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb. But when I start the program and select Help->About it says 0.9.99.1 =(. I don't see any broken packages. There were soome bugfixes in 1.0, I can't use 0.9..
[09:02] <somsip> !info remmina | Slartibart
[09:03] <somsip> Slartibart: you nistall the deb or from the repo?
[09:03] <somsip> *installed
[09:03] <Slartibart> somsip: From the repo, apt-get install remmina remmina-common
[09:03] <Ben64> Slartibart: what version of ubuntu
[09:04] <Slartibart> Ben64: 13.04
[09:04] <somsip> Slartibart: All I could suggest is to check for unpurged settings in ~/ or ~/.config
[09:05] <Slartibart> somsip: Better than nothing :). Good point, will do that.
[09:06] <Ben64> Slartibart: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153804/is-the-latest-remmina-1-0-in-the-official-12-04-repositories
[09:06] <somsip> Slartibart: might as well check /etc too but purge should cover that unless Remmina has installed user settings there, which would be strange
[09:09] <marz> I can't seem to find .bash_profile under my home directory. Where can I find it?
[09:10] <marz> Tried ls -a
[09:10] <Slartibart> Ben64: Ahh. Sneaky. Still weird though, clipboard is mentioned in the bugfixes, but it still doesn't seem to work for me. Explains the versions though. Thanks.
[09:11] <ehhh> just wondering, on the volume button/bar it lists all the audio players, some of them show the *back play next* buttons, does this mean they are running in the background? i know amarok let me quit because i quit from the icon in the right corner
[09:11] <Slartibart> somsip: There were some leftovers in ~. Thanks.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> marz: its a hidden file
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> marz: I dont have one here in Precise
[09:12] <somsip> Slartibart: np
[09:12] <ehhh> or are they simply there for convenience?
[09:12] <marz> ActioniParsnip: Yeah, that's why I used the 'ls -a' command. The only files I see is baschrc and bash_history
[09:12] <Slartibart> I dont have ~/.bash_profile either
[09:13] <marz> Slartibart: Where are we supposed to add environment variables like java
[09:13] <histo> marz: feel free to create one
[09:13] <marz> Slartibart: Is the file removed or is it not included with Ubuntu package?
[09:13] <stava> Holding in the keys on my keyboard no longer repeats that key. What happened, and how do I fix it?
[09:13] <Slartibart> marz: Like histo said :)..
[09:14] <marz> histo: So basically, Ubuntu does not come with the file?
[09:14] <somsip> marz: it's just .profile I believe. You can put aliases anywhere but suggested approaches include http://is.gd/xtcNyL
[09:14] <histo> marz: you can look in /etc/skel/  to see
[09:15] <Slartibart> Cat from .profile though: "This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists."
[09:16] <marz> histo: I see a .profile file in /etc/skel/
[09:16] <histo> marz: take a look at your .profile
[09:16] <marz> Well anyway, I was just wondering where the file is since I'm currently following some kind of tutorial on youtube. Hehehehe, anyway thanks guys
[09:17] <histo> marz: http://stefaanlippens.net/bashrc_and_others
[09:18] <marz> histo: Thanks, this will come in handy
[09:23] <Lorra`> Hi everybody! I was writing this little bash function definition which I would include at the end of my ~/.bashrc, this function calls google-chrome "http://myaddress/". If I run this command in a plain bash shell I get what I want, that is a new tab in my current chrome session, while when this command is run within the function I get I new chrome window. Does anybody have a clue on how I can get around this?
[09:25] <webmind> Ola, I've got a crashing gnu-cfdisk with no error when there is an i/o read error when committing the changes
[09:25] <Lorra`> sounds like this happens when I substitute a variable in the address google-chrome opens
[09:25] <webmind> gnu-fdisk gives an I/O error and suggests retry
[09:25] <Ben64> Lorra`: you should try asking #bash
[09:25] <Lorra`> in fact I open "http://localhost:${somePort}"
[09:26] <webmind> it's in raring
[09:27] <Ben64> webmind: io errors are bad, sounds like you have a bad device?
[09:27] <gordonjcp> webmind: knackered disk
[09:28] <webmind> uhm, segfault to be precises
[09:28] <webmind> Ben64, neh, it's a faulty usb bus
[09:29] <webmind> Ben64, problem I want to report is gnu-cfdisk not being able to deal with it
[09:29] <doebi> somsip: it didn't work
[09:30] <somsip> doebi: what didn't?
[09:30] <doebi> somsip: Boot-Repair
[09:30] <somsip> doebi: ah
[09:30] <marz> What should I learn first? VI/VIM or BASH?
[09:30] <surya> Heya
[09:31] <doebi> marz: those are completely different things
[09:31] <marz> doebi: oh, I thought bash was like the language while vi/vim is the compiler or something
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> marz: depends what you need, 2 are text editors, bash is a shell and can be coded
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> marz: its like, "which should I learn first notepad, write or C++"
[09:32] <marz> ActionParsnip: so what scripting language or programming language do you use on vi/vim?
[09:32] <doebi> marz: you can you use anything in vim
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> marz: vi and vim are ot languages
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> marz: they are text editors, like notepad in WIndows
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> marz: I code some basic bash stuff using vi
[09:32] <marz> doebi: Oh, so you can use anything in vim. That a relief
[09:33] <doebi> vim is simply an editor
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> marz: yes, its a text editor, you can write any text in a text editor, it doesn't care what language it is
[09:33] <marz> ActionParsnip: I was just wondering if there was a specific language needing in vim. I do  know that it is a text editor though. Hehehe, sorry for the confusion
[09:33] <iamtony> Hi, I mounted a remote drive using File -> Connect to Server in the GUI... but how do I get to the mounted dir in the terminal? It doesn't seem to me showing in /media or /mnt?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> marz: I suggest you research a little in future, then ask
[09:34] <riply> marz, the bash is normally in English ;)
[09:34] <doebi> marz: you better read up in google and get back once you have a basic knowledge what ya talking about
[09:34] <marz> Sorry guys, just wanted a fast answer. But I will do that next time
[09:34] <doebi> marz: we cant give a fast answer cause there is none
[09:35] <doebi> marz: only one thing i can tell ya: vim > vi
[09:36] <marz> doebi: Oh, okay. I think I'll read a book about vi first before bash. Hehehe
[09:36] <effbiai> hi, how can i get grub to use "fallback mode" all the time? when it uses high resolution it almost all the time freezes. when i reboot, it seems to go into a follback mode with low graphics. how can i force grub to use this mode all the time?
[09:36] <doebi> marz: do whatever you feel like
[09:39] <riply> @marz, if you're totally new to bash, I'd advice using an easier editor like nano or vim, vi is complex
[09:45] <histo> marz: vimtutor can help you learn vim
[09:46] <webmind> error reported :)
[09:48] <Darkyyy> how come ubuntu 12.04 dosent understand the "deb" command
[09:48] <k1l> Darkyyy: what deb command? what do you want to do?
[09:49] <DJones> Darkyyy: There is no deb command
[09:49] <Darkyyy> trying to add kali repos
[09:49] <k1l> Darkyyy: that is not a command. and kali is not supported here. its a debian fork anyway
[09:50] <Darkyyy> how can i use backtrack/kali tools on ubuntu ?
[09:50] <k1l> Darkyyy: ask in the kali/backtrack channels
[09:50] <k1l> !backtrack | Darkyyy
[09:53] <smoke_> anyone using dvdstyler with any success?
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> smoke_  technically, your question is for this channel, too, but better ask in #ubuntu-studio, i guess
[09:58] <smoke_> MonkeyDust, k thanks :)
[10:01] <Babin> How to assign a Static IP for eth0 in ubuntu 12.04 please guide me buddied Quti its urgent
[10:02] <pv_> can anyone guide me on how to setup xmonad on my ubuntu system plz? xmonad-conky-dzen2 configuration
[10:03] <riply> Babin, are you talking about the server or desktop?
[10:03] <Babin> desktop
[10:03] <mumpitze1> Babin: man interfaces. or in network-manager
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> Babin  http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[10:04] <Babin> ins\\\\instaled ubuntu in virtualmachine Proxmox
[10:04] <Babin> k
[10:04] <riply> there we go =]
[10:05] <ddssc> any way to make xinput remember my device id ? it keeps changing ids every time I restart
[10:05] <FourFire> Hello, does anyone know of a Linux program which has similar features to Notepad++ ?
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> ddssc  plenty tutorials, here's one : http://www.howtogeek.com/114728/how-to-use-xmonad-a-tiling-window-manager-for-linux/
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  gedit maybe
[10:09] <Darkyyy> How can i empty the sources list
[10:09] <FourFire> that's the default I have now
[10:09] <ddssc> MonkeyDust: that's not in any way shape or form related to my question.
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> ddssc  i addressed the wrong person, it was for pv_ , my mistake, apologies
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> pv_   plenty tutorials, here's one : http://www.howtogeek.com/114728/how-to-use-xmonad-a-tiling-window-manager-for-linux/
[10:13] <Alternate> hmm these people joining and leaving , how do you turn that off?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Alternate: which client are you using?
[10:14] <Alternate> Xchat
[10:15] <Darkyyy> How can i empty the sources list
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: why would you want to
[10:16] <Darkyyy> I Added wrong sources by mistake
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Alternate: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Darkyyy: there is already a file there, but you can empty it with:  cat /dev/null > /etc/apt/sources.list    I suggest you make a backup of the standing file first
[10:18] <Alternate> im using xchat on ubuntu
[10:19] <Alternate> now it works
[10:19] <Alternate> had to use /SET irc_conf_mode 1
[10:19] <FourFire> meh I'll just Wine Notepad+++
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: why not use gedit...
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  what feature(s) are you referreing to?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> FourDollars: or smuxi
[10:20] <dffgfsdgfh> 哦
[10:20] <dffgfsdgfh> 你好
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[10:20] <FourDollars> @_@a
[10:21] <dffgfsdgfh> 好多人哦:-D
[10:25] <definity> How do I go about formatting Terminals output?
[10:25] <definity> are their any programs?
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> definity  configure what in terminal, exactly?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> definity: in what way?
[10:28] <definity> Like tput.
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> definity  man tput, to start
[10:39] <Nikename> ciao
[10:39] <Nikename> !list
[10:40] <Nikename> hi
[10:40] <Nikename> !list
[10:43] <Francis-> I would like to route all requests on port 80 of a ubuntu box to port 3000
[10:44] <Francis-> My first thought is to do this ssh -L 80:localhost:3000 - is this the correct train of thought?
[10:45] <hellrazor_> hi there
[10:45] <cfhowlett> hellrazor_, greetings
[10:45] <Francis-> It appears that there is this thing called iptables which is what I want
[10:46] <luaa> how do I compile cups from sources?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !compile|luaa,
[10:47] <Gilligan94> hmmm steam seems to have stopped working for me, the icon just pulses then does nothing, any ideas?
[10:48] <KriSHanSin> oh man, anyone know why i cant get my user name to show on panel even after installing dconf editor and checking the box and restarting unity several times? is this a sign that someone may be hacking me?
[10:48] <hellrazor_> i wanna configure my xorg server properly, my mouse needs some special settings :) how can i do this?
[10:50] <dffgfsdgfh> What is the mouse, the mouse eat it? ?
[10:51] <KriSHanSin> hold on , let me try to install the indictor session package again and see if that is it. if not then i am in trouble.
[10:52] <cfhowlett> KriSHanSin, more likely it's a sign that you've modified a display setting somewhere ...
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> KriSHanSin  use unity-tweak-tool > Panel > Show my name
[10:53] <TakumoKatekari> Question about logrotate : Where is the execution of logrotate configured?
[10:54] <Gilligan94> why do so many people end their nicks with an _
[10:54] <cfhowlett> Gilligan94, to be "different"
[10:55] <Gilligan94> silly hipsters
[10:55] <Gilligan94> anyone here know how to connect to the twitch.tv irc servers?
[10:55] <KriSHanSin> cfhowlett: MonkeyDust hold on i gotta get the freyja repo first
[10:58] <DanChapman> Hey guys, trying to generate an pgp key on saucy and getting invalid crypto engine? and need to create a new key for my launchpad account
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> !saucy | DanChapman
[10:59] <dylancl> <Hello. After updating to Xubuntu 12.10, I just get a black screen after the Xubuntu 12.10 startup, with the blue screen and all. IS there a fix to this?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|dylancl,
[11:00] <zmaroti> could someone please help me with Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS precise, init script problem ?
[11:01] <ss_haze> I installed lubuntu - desktop (LXDE) on my ubuntu, and I have problem with system try
[11:01] <ss_haze> it's expanded for no reason
[11:01] <ss_haze> and is buggy, gives redraw on right click
[11:02] <zmaroti> I have exact symptom describedhere: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/440179 which is stated as fixed, is there anyway to checck the fix, and whether it was ported back to precise or not?
[11:02] <ss_haze> how to fix that?
[11:02] <hellrazor_> Gilligan94, thats from autoreconnect :)
[11:06] <puri> I was trying to set up my usb data card and while running 'wvdialconf', it shows the following error...can anybody help me???Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[11:06] <puri> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[11:06] <puri> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:06] <puri> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:06] <puri> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a5c:21d7 Broadcom Corp.
[11:06] <FloodBot1> puri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <puri> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:6473 Microdia
[11:06] <Fahds> jjaajajajja
[11:06] <Fahds> owned noob
[11:07] <Fahds> owned noob
[11:07] <DJones> Fahds: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[11:07] <gordonjcp> !pastebin | puri
[11:07] <Gilligan94> Fahds: shhhhh
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Fahds, if you're not here to provide or request support ... you're in the wrong place
[11:08] <Fahds> stfu
[11:08] <Fahds> niggers
[11:08] <FloodBot1> Fahds: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !ops|Fahds,
[11:09] <KriSHanSin> cant fetch certain packages on the freyja repo right now let me check if it changed or something
[11:09] <Fahds> BACK IN THE HOOD
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> KriSHanSin: does it support your release
[11:10] <KriSHanSin> ok i am on 12.04 lts so i can not install from repo but there is another way it seems yes?
[11:10] <dffgfsdgfh> yao chi fan le
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> KriSHanSin: https://launchpad.net/~freyja-dev/+archive/unity-tweak-tool-daily only suppots quantal, raring and saucy. Is that the one you have?
[11:11] <elky> dffgfsdgfh, english here please
[11:11] <KriSHanSin> ActionParsnip: yeah i guess quantal is 12.04 right
[11:11] <Gilligan94> someone ban Fahds
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> KriSHanSin: no, quantal is 12.10
[11:11] <KriSHanSin> oh snap
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> KriSHanSin: 12.04 is Precise
[11:11] <auronandace> KriSHanSin: 12.04 is precise
[11:11] <KriSHanSin> oh yeah pangolin duh i got too many distros
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> KriSHanSin  i guess 12.04 had MyUnity, try that
[11:11] <helmi> Hello everybody. I updated my Ubuntu to 12.04 LTS but I noticed that my CGI apache module still search in the path of old version of perl (5.12). Anyone has an idea about how to fix that ?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> KriSHanSin: not all repos support all releases, you need to check stuff before adding random PPAs
[11:12] <dylancl> Hmm, is it possible to download 12.04 on 12.10? :P
[11:12] <Fahds> omg no
[11:12] <Fahds> wtf u crazyy
[11:13] <auronandace> dylancl: download it yes
[11:13] <cfhowlett> dylancl, download the iso but do NOT mix distros
[11:13] <dylancl> The .iso is a rar file, right?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> dylancl, no it's an ISO file ...
[11:13] <auronandace> dylancl: no, it is an iso
[11:13] <dylancl> It's just a rar file with a bunch of files in it for me
[11:14] <cfhowlett> dylancl, whatever you're looking at; if it's in .rar it is NOT the ISO
[11:14] <random777_> winRaR can open .iso files, Go into the file properties to see the file extenstion. dylancl
[11:15] <dylancl> Alright
[11:15] <dylancl> WinRAR archive (.iso)
[11:15] <auronandace> !rar | dylancl
[11:15] <KriSHanSin> ok i am downloading lubuntu 13.04 -desktop right now. is that the same thing as installing 13.04 and then running apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ? or is it different? and is it ok to install just the lubuntu 13.04 from live usb?
[11:15] <random777_> So that file is a .iso file then.
[11:16] <dylancl> So, i just put it on my stick, go into the boot options when starting up, and select the stick?
[11:16] <KriSHanSin> random777_: oh yeah
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> KriSHanSin  are you in 12.04 now?
[11:16] <KriSHanSin> MonkeyDust: yeah man
[11:16] <KriSHanSin> lts
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> KriSHanSin  then you download 13.04, backup you personal files and fresh install 13.04
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> KriSHanSin: yes, its the same. YOu can get a minimal LXDE session by just installing lxde once installed, the lubuntu-desktop will pull in duplicate functionality (e.g leafpad when gedit will already be installed) and so forth
[11:17] <random777_> dylancl, i'd read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:17] <hadifarnoud> my ubuntu server is under DDoS attack. I managed to block most of it but I'm getting a strange http GET requests. https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/c761a50fa53b90befbf1
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> hadifarnoud  #ubuntu-server
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !server
[11:18] <KriSHanSin> ActionParsnip: ok i think i understand thanks. what im gonna do now is , create a live usb with this lubuntu-13.04-desktop iso, and then do a clean install from that. see if that works out better for me and then i will get the unity tweak straight away and bbl
[11:19] <dffgfsdgfh> Someone with mint do? Can not adjust the brightness, how to do?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !mint | dffgfsdgfh
[11:19] <dffgfsdgfh> lenovo e430
[11:20] <cfhowlett> dffgfsdgfh, mint is not supported here.
[11:20] <dffgfsdgfh> ....
[11:21] <dffgfsdgfh> mint is not based on ubuntu do?
[11:21] <SKYLAKE-10nm> hi grawity
[11:21] <cfhowlett> dffgfsdgfh, mint has its own support channel.  for help, go there
[11:21] <DJones> dffgfsdgfh: Mint is based on Ubuntu, buts its not an official Ubuntu release, this channel only supports the official Ubuntu releases
[11:22] <hellrazor> how con i change my grub configuration to protectthe bootentries with a password??
[11:22] <compdoc> I thought Skylake will use a 14 nm process
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !grub|hellrazor,
[11:22] <RajeevK> I have a folder for image and inside there are so many images...all are showing in lock condition...how to remove lock ?
[11:22] <hellrazor> cfhowlett, jeah ok then in grub2
[11:23] <RajeevK> I know chmod, but it's for one file....and I want to do it for all file inside the image folder
[11:23] <cfhowlett> RajeevK, image?  like photographs?
[11:23] <jrib> RajeevK: what is the output of « ls -l /path/to/image »?
[11:23] <Gilligan94> anyone know if bumblebee/nvidia drivers are working with the current kernel? mine dont work
[11:23] <Ephexeve_laptop> hey guys, is apt-fast for ubuntu only?
[11:23] <RajeevK> jrib: Let me get that
[11:23] <jrib> RajeevK: chmod can operate on multiple files.  For example, « chmod PERM FILE1 FILE2 ... » (use a glob to list the files)
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> !find apt-fast | Ephexeve_laptop
[11:24] <RajeevK> jrib: Its -rw-rw-r-- for all file in there
[11:24] <jrib> RajeevK: please give full output
[11:25] <RajeevK> jrib: -rw-rw-r-- 1 www-data www-data   9563 Jun 25 16:31 Zoya-Factor.jpg
[11:25] <puri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798217/plain/
[11:25] <Ephexeve_laptop> ubottu: what?
[11:25] <RajeevK> jrib: This is how coming for all file
[11:25] <Ephexeve_laptop> Ah I see
[11:25] <RajeevK> cfhowlett: Yes photograph
[11:25] <jrib> RajeevK: and do you need www-data to be able to write to these files?
[11:25] <hellrazor> whoever wrote the grub configuration in ubuntu should be damned to hell for this xml looks....
[11:25] <RajeevK> jrib: Yes
[11:26] <ss_haze> nobod helps me at lubuntu irc, so question here, how to fix LXDE system tray expanding
[11:26] <RajeevK> jrib: It's being copied from some other source when I run the program
[11:26] <jrib> RajeevK: and you also need another user to be able to write?  Are you sure www-data needs to *write* to the files and not just read them?
[11:26] <puri> can anybody help configure my usb data card " http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798217/plain/ " ??
[11:26] <ss_haze> really, nobody on internet knows why lxde is so buggy
[11:26] <RajeevK> jrib: Yes...I want open permission for this folder
[11:26] <ss_haze> and how to fix the panel?
[11:26] <jrib> RajeevK: I asked you two questions, answering, "yes" is confusing
[11:27] <aladdin> anyone uses spotify?
[11:27] <ss_haze> no, what is spotifyt
[11:27] <RajeevK> jrib: I am creating product from feed & it's copying from some other source and putting in this folder
[11:27] <aladdin> ss_haze: music streaming app
[11:28] <puri> music app
[11:28] <puri> yeah
[11:28] <RajeevK> jrib: Now when I am trying to view the product from browser, nothing comes. I checked the permission and it was like that
[11:28] <jrib> RajeevK: what username needs to be able to write to the images?
[11:28] <ss_haze> now help and tell me why lxde system tray keeps expanding after login, starting new things in system tray
[11:28] <ss_haze> and etc
[11:28] <aladdin> if you do, how to install it, followed the instructions on the site, but ...
[11:29] <RajeevK> jrib: it's being done by Drupal UI...so I can't exactly say the username
[11:29] <hellrazor> this is like hell
[11:29] <jrib> RajeevK: so what is the issue with the files...?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  try #lubuntu
[11:29] <jrib> RajeevK: drupal likely runs as www-data and www-data can write to the thifels
[11:30] <RajeevK> jrib: Its not being displayed at the browser
[11:30] <ss_haze> MonkeyDust I am there for like 15 mins
[11:30] <ss_haze> and nobody is writing anything
[11:30] <jrib> RajeevK: you're being too vague.  Can you say exactly what it is that you want to do, how you are trying to do it, and what is happening instead?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, ask forum.lxde.org
[11:30] <ss_haze> google doesn't display any fixes of the bug
[11:31] <ss_haze> how can ubuntu sytes give lubuntu as alternative if you get crucial bugs like that
[11:31] <ss_haze> on LTS
[11:31] <RajeevK> jrib: Ok. I have configured product import system in drupal by excel sheet. Where I give path of the image & the program copy that image from that path and paste in this folder
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, may or may not be a bug.  may or may not be an ubuntu issue.
[11:32] <RajeevK> jrib: I have given open permission to the folder where it's pasting.  But the images which it's pasting is not being displayed in browser
[11:32] <dylancl> So, guys, I read a lot of tutorials about how to boot from a USB disk, but my laptop won't find the USB when pressing F9 to select where it should boot from
[11:32] <dylancl> Any help?
[11:32] <RajeevK> jrib: I checked the image file permission and it show locked
[11:32] <cfhowlett> dylancl, do you get the bios menu ?
[11:32] <jrib> RajeevK: what do you mean by "given open permission to the folder where it's pasting"?  I don't know what that means.
[11:33] <dylancl> No, I was in the Boot Device Options
[11:33] <dylancl> But I can go to BIOS setup
[11:33] <RajeevK> jrib: I have folder inside drupal instance for these images, which I have set READ & WRITE to everyone
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I'd suggest you do the bios setup option. you'll need to reset it to HDD boot after installation though
[11:33] <jrib> RajeevK: ok.  Show the ls -ld output for the directory in question
[11:34] <dylancl> cfhowlett: any tutorials on that? ::P
[11:34] <RajeevK> jrib: drwxrwxrwx 2 rajeev rajeev 61440 Jun 25 16:31 bookImage
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  try installing ubuntu and then lxde as etra desktop -- if you did that, try installing the lubuntu.iso
[11:34] <dylancl> Should I enable Floppy boot and Internal Network Adapter boot?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> extra*
[11:35] <jrib> RajeevK: "But the images which it's pasting is not being displayed in browser".  What does this mean?  What is pasting where?  What browser are you talking about?  Web browser or file browser?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dylancl, somewhere but the menu is pretty intuitive.  make your bios changes to prioritize usb boot.  save and reboot.  after install, go back to bios and prioritize HDD boot.  save and reboot
[11:35] <RajeevK> jrib: Web browser
[11:35] <ss_haze> installing whole OS because of one lxde desktop
[11:35] <dylancl> Yeah, I think I found it. Boot type Order, and then I an select USB Floppy
[11:35] <ss_haze> seriously, best fix?
[11:35] <jrib> RajeevK: and the rest of my questions?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dylancl, last time, I turned off every boot option except usb
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  other solutions do not seem to work
[11:36] <RajeevK> jrib: My program can copy a image from any web url or any local path and paste in this folder "bookImage"
[11:36] <dylancl> oh god
[11:36] <dylancl> so I launched from the usb
[11:37] <dylancl> and now it gives me something with the menu
[11:37] <cfhowlett> dylancl, "it" being ?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !details|dylancl, "something" ....
[11:37] <dylancl> GRUB4DOS 0.4.4 2009-06-20, Memory:628 / 2933M, MenuEnd:0x48C84
[11:38] <jrib> RajeevK: "is not being displayed in browser".  What does this mean?  How are you trying to access or display them?  Are you just opening the bookImage directory locally in the browser?  Or are you going through your webserver?  Through drupal?  What exactly do you do to display them, what exactly do you expect, and what exactly is happening instead?
[11:38] <dylancl> I launched from the USB, and it took me straight to a screen with 4 commands. find/menu.lst, /boot/grub/menu.lst, /grub/menu.lst, commandline, reboot and halt
[11:39] <dylancl> Did I do something wrong? Because I used the tutorial to put my iso on my usb that somebody gave me
[11:39] <cfhowlett> dylancl, don't know how you made this boot USB.  I've used the ubuntu startup-disk-creator tool.  Pretty sure grub4dos ain't there but ... you either had a bad ISO to start with or a flaky usb.  "put" the iso on usb?  How did you do that?
[11:39] <ss_haze> it's just so sad
[11:39] <ss_haze> that lubuntu is so s***
[11:39] <dylancl> Linux Live Usb Creator
[11:39] <ss_haze> how can you actually use something with no system tray
[11:39] <jrib> ss_haze: stop please.  Feel free to ask your support question every 5-10 minutes depending on traffic, but there's no need for the other chit chat
[11:39] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, please vent in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:40] <RajeevK> jrib: I am creating product in drupal by importing CSV. Where other fields I fill for DB & image I copy from some location given in the CSV. System create product with my data and copy image from my given path and paste in the folder which I am talking about. So all product are created but when I am going to product page, image is not being displayed but all fields are coming
[11:40] <cfhowlett> dylancl, ok.  let's problem solve.  Did you md5sum the ISO before you burned it to usb?
[11:41] <dylancl> md5sum? Please, don't use diffucult words that only you guys understand
[11:41] <jrib> RajeevK: so displaying the image in your browser is something being done by drupal?
[11:41] <RajeevK> jrib: Yes
[11:41] <jrib> RajeevK: does drupal set the right path to the images?  (check one example)
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|dylancl, is a quality/integrity tool to verify that you downloaded what you were supposed to download.  For that matter DOWNLOADING the iso frequently fails, thus the recommended tool is torrent.
[11:44] <ss_haze> why the hell lubuntu even exists if nobody talks on lubuntu irc channel
[11:44] <jrib> ss_haze: didn't we ask you to stick to support?
[11:44] <JRicketts_> Anyone have a nice guide for song up a static IP through a router. I can access my server in network but from outside I get a bad gateway 502 error. I have looked everywhere.
[11:44] <JRicketts_> For setting up
[11:44] <ss_haze> what support
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !ot|ss_haze,
[11:45] <luaa> how do I compile cups from sources?
[11:45] <Vec_> Hey, i am trying to install unbuntu server 12.04 on my server which does not have a monitor, i have a keyboard however. How can i successfully install ubuntuserver on this machine? Some sort of configurable ISO that would do a 100% automatic installation would be nice. I imagine installing then logging on with webmin or whatever to start configuring it.
[11:45] <sw> !source | luaa
[11:45] <jrib> ss_haze: if no one right now knows the answer to your question, we can't help.  Try other support venues or just wait and try again later.  Ranting here only makes it harder to help people
[11:45] <DJones> !webmin | Vec_
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, few people talking means 1 of 2 things: few people using it (false) or few problems with it (likely)
[11:45] <jrib> luaa: why do you want to?
[11:45] <dylancl> great. The tutorial for windows appearently fails for my windows
[11:45] <ss_haze> that is ubuntu related question, I can't see so big community, having problems fixing one damn panel bug
[11:45] <luaa> ubottu: I did
[11:46] <cfhowlett> dylancl, you still with us?
[11:46] <luaa> jrib: I am using an old linux distribition
[11:46] <dylancl> cfhowlett: it returns that the system can't find the file or something. don't know how to translate it from dutch :/
[11:46] <luaa> jrib: cups isnt working on this system
[11:46] <dylancl> System can't find the given (something)
[11:46] <jrib> ss_haze: like I said: if no one knows the answer to your question, ranting will not magically grant us knowledge.  You're just making it harder to help other people.  So please stop.  Try the other support venues or wait patiently for new traffic and ask (your actual support question) later
[11:46] <cfhowlett> dylancl, that ... should not happen
[11:47] <jrib> luaa: what linux distribution?
[11:47] <DJones> Vec_: Its not something I've ever needed, but this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole
[11:47] <luaa> ubuntu 10.04
[11:47] <jrib> luaa: on the desktop?
[11:47] <luaa> server
[11:47] <jrib> luaa: how isn't cups working exactly?
[11:47] <jrib> !support | ss_haze
[11:47] <cfhowlett> dylancl, ok, forget the md5sum check for now.  make a boot usb with a different stick.  they do get funky fairly often.
[11:47] <Vec_> DJones: Im currently looking at the link, thanks.
[11:48] <dylancl> using the same tool?
[11:48] <DJones> Vec_: I picked that up from http://askubuntu.com/questions/13106/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-on-a-headless-machine
[11:48] <cfhowlett> ss_haze, support options include the forums.  You should look/post there as well.
[11:48] <luaa> its an old version of cups my postscript doesnt work in 1.4.3 but works in 1.5.6
[11:48] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I'd suggest unetbootin or startup-disk-creator
[11:48] <ss_haze> I googled this problem, right now, no answers from anything
[11:48] <luaa> @ jrib
[11:49] <DJones> Vec_: It might also be worth joining #ubuntu-server and asking the question in there, they may point you at the same documents, but could have another method
[11:49] <ActionPa1snip> luaa: considered an upgrade to Precise?
[11:50] <Vec_> ok
[11:50] <luaa> ActionPa1snip: I want to compile cups 1.5.4 from source
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> ss_haze  repeat your initial question every 10-15 minutes and wait until someone enters who can help you
[11:50] <luaa> apt get installs 1.4.3
[11:50] <Vec_> Djones: well this seems up my ally, considering it seems like i only need to configurate a .iso image to do work, then i can logon through SSH and get hands on
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> luaa: no PPA for it?
[11:51] <ss_haze> only solution removing system try
[11:51] <DJones> Vec_: Good luck then, have fun
[11:51] <jrib> !info cups precise
[11:51] <ss_haze> but is there alternative system tray for lxde
[11:51] <ss_haze> don't know
[11:51] <Vec_> DJones: thanks
[11:52] <jrib> luaa: as ActionPa1snip suggested, upgrading to precise is probably the easiest thing for you to do
[11:52] <ss_haze> I am waiting half an hour in lubuntu irc
[11:52] <cfhowlett> jrib, tyvm
[11:52] <caleb_> Any idea how I could be chatting on IRC and surfing the web without being able to ping anything successfully?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> caleb_, no idea but I'll certainly watch this thread!
[11:54] <luaa> jrib: upgrading to precise? what is that
[11:54] <jrib> luaa: precise is 12.04 (the next LTS version after 10.04)
[11:55] <luaa> ow I get
[11:55] <jrib> luaa: it comes with cups 1.5.3
[11:55] <jrib> !upgrade | luaa
[11:56] <jrib> luaa: on 10.04, you should be able to just make sure /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades allows for lts upgrades, then run "sudo do-release-upgrade".  Then your system will upgrade to 12.04.  Make sure you have backups of course in the unlikely event a meteor destroys the earth, etc.
[11:57] <dylancl> cfhowlett: sorry, I'm back
[11:58] <dylancl> so
[11:58] <dylancl> Just put the iso on a new stick using unetbootin?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> dylancl, or startup-disk-creator
[11:58] <dylancl> What do/did you use?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> dylancl, startup-disk-creator has always done it for me
[11:59] <dylancl> I'l download that then
[11:59] <cfhowlett> dylancl, it's part of ubuntu.  unetbootin will also run in windows
[11:59] <ezra-s> startup-disk-creator has always failed for me :(
[12:00] <dylancl> oh
[12:01] <dylancl> umm cfhowlett I think the sourcefourge page of unetbootin is down...
[12:01] <random_> hi all, Running into some problems trying to install fglrx-updates.  i get http://pastebin.com/g934JqD2 , Anyone able to help me out.
[12:02] <disPlay> dylancl here the unetbootin sourceforge page is up
[12:03] <dylancl> Not for me...
[12:03] <dylancl> Can you link the page you're on?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I can't comment.  EVERYTHING is weird on Chinese internet ...
[12:05] <armin> hm, seems like there indeed is a bug with NetworkManager in ubuntu 13.04 when using PEAP and wpa2 enterprise as system-ca-certs in the system-connections file is being set to true, leading to NetworkManager being unable to connect.
[12:05] <dylancl> guess I'll go back to the program I previously in staled
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <gordonjcp> dylancl: what are you trying to do?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj: hello
[12:06] <ezra-s> armin, not only that, vpnc also fails with default config also fails
[12:06] <dylancl> umm
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi gordonjcp
[12:06] <dylancl> trying to put an iso on an usb
[12:06] <ezra-s> armin, the bug was reported as soon as 13.04 was released, and still fails, it also fails the same way in LTS
[12:06] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, usb creation
[12:07] <armin> ezra-s: sounds bad
[12:07] <ezra-s> armin, you bet, resort to wpa-supplicant and manual configuration, network manager is not to be trusted
[12:07] <dylancl> I'm going to use LiLi usb creator
[12:08] <cfhowlett> dylancl, never heard of it.  good luck
[12:08] <gordonjcp> dylancl: why OS are you using?
[12:08] <armin> ezra-s: oh i already wrote a wrapper bash script around wpa-supplicant as well
[12:08] <armin> ezra-s: networking under linux is a mess with NM, wicd and the like.
[12:08] <dylancl> gordonjcp: Windows, but on my other laptop (isn't working) running ubuntu
[12:08] <dylancl> cfhowlett: it's the one listed in the ubuntu help wiki page thingy
[12:09] <cfhowlett> dylancl, good enough.  run with it.
[12:09] <ezra-s> armin, nice, I had to do something like that, got me by surprise when I had to connect to work from home after the upgrade... not nice
[12:09] <dylancl> oh cfhowlett
[12:09] <gordonjcp> dylancl: oh, well go with whatever is on the Ubuntu wiki then ;-)  Sorry, can't help with Windows
[12:09] <dylancl> the program automaticly does a md5 check
[12:09] <cfhowlett> dylancl, sweeeeeeeeeeeeet
[12:09] <dylancl> it does a bunch actually
[12:09] <ezra-s> armin, I don't know what they did, 12.10 worked perfectly
[12:09] <armin> ezra-s: at those points i really considering going into a fucking store and buying a macbook.
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !language|armin,   please
[12:10] <armin> ezra-s: yes, no issues here with 12.10 at all. and i'm speaking about a lot of machines.
[12:10] <ezra-s> armin, lol, pretty expensive workaround don't you think? ;)
[12:10] <opti> what does one have to do to make grub2 pick up freebsd and add it to the boot menu with everything else?
[12:11] <armin> ezra-s: sure, but i could afford it and need a machine that just works. considering those .DS_Store nightmares and imagining my life in a golden cage still keeps me from doing it.
[12:11] <ezra-s> armin, for office work sometimes is best to stick to a more stable distro, since LTS does fail in this too, maybe go back to debian
[12:11] <cfhowlett> opti, good question for freebsd forums ...
[12:11] <dylancl> autoreport, md5, recognition, cleaning, full cleaning, copy, moving_renaming, hiding, keyboard_detection, boot_text, persistence, bootector, vbox cleaning, autorun, feedback for beta, finalhelp, netbook warning, force 3rdparty format, fore iso mode, graphical safe mode
[12:11] <dylancl> Should I disable any of those?
[12:11] <opti> considering i'm running update-grub from ubuntu, i fail to see how
[12:11] <cfhowlett> dylancl, I'd say ... no
[12:11] <armin> ezra-s: yes 2 of my co-workers use debian testing on their desktops, and one even uses debian stable.
[12:11] <dylancl> Alright. It's creating a Live USB
[12:12] <ezra-s> armin, don't give up on Linux, it just a matter of finding the distro that works for you and stay with it, upgrading to non LTS/stable releases bring this...
[12:12] <dylancl> Also
[12:12] <dylancl> On my laptop with ubuntu, I did boot in the command thing
[12:12] <dylancl> and it said: Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting
[12:13] <ikonia> dylancl: that's grub - you've not booted
[12:13] <ezra-s> armin, you never run short of options when using Linux really
[12:13] <armin> ezra-s: i mean seriously, i've tried a lot. i've done the systemd migration on arch linux, some f*ck*p*s on ubuntu, the gnome3 mess with fedora, tried to find my way through cinnamon and mate with mint, ran into several bugs with unity/kde/xfce and still suffer from tearing with non-opengl-desktops in general. i'm sick of working ON my system rather than working WITH it.
[12:14] <ezra-s> armin, I recommend openbox or anything that  does not need compositing
[12:15] <armin> ezra-s: i've been a die-hard fluxbox user for years as well and am even hacking on i3 occasionally.
[12:15] <ezra-s> armin, I'm with kde now in 13.04, all effects disabled, quite liking it for the first time...
[12:15] <armin> ezra-s: i just use kde here right now on an arch linux box and it mostly does the job for me, but kde has flickering and weird side-effects-bugs on my work-notebook (dell latitude e6230)
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: the latter one using ubuntu 13.04
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: it just seems impossible to use a unique way on all distributions.
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: you just seek for the way that has the smallest amount of pain and try to get around with that.
[12:16] <armin> ezra-s: and really, it annoys me pretty much.
[12:17] <armin> ezra-s: and i usually configure my environments to the bone.
[12:18] <ezra-s> armin, have you tried disabling desktop effects in configuration?
[12:18] <ss_haze> I don't know what should I do with lubuntu irc chat, where nobody answers anything
[12:18] <Quix86> what's the easiest way to sync files locally, i.e., copy doccuments in a folder to an external drive every time the drive is attached, and/or when files are modified?
[12:18] <caz1121> Please help.... Since an overnight update from 12.04 to 12.10 i am stuck at the command prompt with no screens found error, i am a ubuntu virgin before yesterday, love it but i am pulling my har out.. again very NOOB, but assume it is driver related as the screen is able to show the command line
[12:18] <Quix86> caz1121 have you tried 'startx'?
[12:18] <ikonia> caz1121: why did you install 12.04 and update if this is your first day
[12:18] <ikonia> caz1121: why not just install the version you want to use
[12:19] <cfhowlett> caz1121, 12.04 is supported for 5 years.  12.10 is ... NOT, but you just HAD to upgrade?
[12:19] <ikonia> caz1121: as this is only a 1 day old install, simpley download the version you want and install it cleanly
[12:19] <armin> ezra-s: i've really been playing around with all that for years.
[12:19] <caz1121> startx gives the error in question
[12:19] <ss_haze> canonical should cut support for such projects as lubuntu, if they can't fix such thing as system tray in long term release,
[12:19] <ikonia> caz1121: just re-install with the correct version
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !ot|ss_haze,
[12:19] <armin> ezra-s: tried different rendering backends, different graphics cards, compositing and not, modified effects, changed the code of them, etc.
[12:20] <caz1121> A friend installed 12.04, when he left he advised updating to the newer versions.. I started the update last night, rebooted today to find the issue at hand? Help is greatly appreciated
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: ok - download version you want, install it
[12:21] <DylanCl> Ugh when this isn't going to work, I'll be stuck with a broken laptop forever
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: I would suggest downloading either 12.04 for long term support or 13.04 for the current version
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: then install that and you're done
[12:21] <caz1121> many thanks... Image burn the ISO and boot from disk?
[12:21] <JMarshall832> Greetings! I have moved (and had to give some downtime) to a laptop come server running ubuntu studio. The HDD is encrypted and I forgot the original password for login, let alone the pass phrase. I have reset the password for login, but get stuck in a login screen loop. is there any way to get the data off the hard drive?
[12:21] <ikonia> caz1121: it's that simple, yes
[12:22] <cfhowlett> JMarshall832, pretty much the point of encryption ... I'd say no.
[12:22] <caz1121> ikonia:much appreciated, ill do that now
[12:22] <Cosmino> ciao ;)
[12:22] <ikonia> JMarshall832: maybe worth not encypted things in future unless there is a real need
[12:22] <Cosmino> !list
[12:23] <Antar> hi everybody
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Antar, greetings
[12:23] <Antar> :)
[12:23] <jpmh> i have a script that I need to execute when the system comes up - what is the simplest way to cause this?
[12:23] <foofoobar> Hi. I have ubuntu 13.04 and universe activated. But "gnomebaker" is not found with apt-get - why?
[12:23] <ikonia> !info gnomebaker
[12:23] <foofoobar> jpmh: upstart
[12:24] <ikonia> foofoobar: because that package is not in the repo, check the package name
[12:24] <Antar> i want to merge tow partitions using ubuntu i am using live usb
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !gpartd|Antar,
[12:24] <foofoobar> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnomeBaker
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !gparted|Antar,
[12:24] <Antar> without losing my data ??
[12:24] <ikonia> foofoobar: yes and ?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Antar, um yes, but you WILL backup essential data first.  Right?
[12:25] <foofoobar> ikonia: they called it "gnomebaker" in the ubuntu docs..
[12:25] <foofoobar> How else should I find it
[12:25] <ikonia> foofoobar doesn't mean it's in the version you are using
[12:25] <Antar> what about my data
[12:25] <foofoobar> ikonia: ah, okay
[12:25] <foofoobar> So what can I do now?
[12:25] <ikonia> foofoobar: in terms of what ?
[12:25] <foofoobar> ikonia: I need a tool to burn some music
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Antar, *ideally* it's safe.
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !brasero|foofoobar,
[12:26] <Antar> cfhowlett if i installed windows after that
[12:26] <Antar> do i have problems ?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Antar, see now, details matter.  install windows FIRST
[12:27] <ikonia> foofoobar: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/index.html overview on how to do things in ubuntu 13.04
[12:27] <Antar> ok
[12:30] <ezra-s> Antar, microsoft windows does not care a bit about other OS's installed in the same machine and won't hesitate to erase the boot record to install its boot manager without considering any linux distro or whatever you have in there, Ubuntu will consider the windows installation and will let you keep booting windows, that's why people suggest installing windows first, so you avoid extra work and hassle.
[12:31] <jpmh> foobArrr: i pulled the man page - can you give me a quick way to use upstart to start my script
[12:31] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: Sorry, it's going to take a bit longer. My sister has claimed the computer I was using so I had to re-download the iso
[12:32] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, um about that ... you ARE using a torrent?
[12:32] <DylanCl> No, I just downloaded it fromhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[12:32] <smoke_> i just ran a wine app that changed my screen resolution all wierd in xwindows is it possible to revert the changes so my res looks normal again without rebooting?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, downloads frequently get corrupted.  the recommended practice is to torrent as hash checking is built in ...
[12:33] <smoke_> i killed all the wine processes but it left my screen all zoomed in
[12:33] <DylanCl> Please don't tell me that I have to re-download it because the download just finished :P
[12:33] <DylanCl> Ugh, alright. Where can I find the torrent?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, md5sum check to verify
[12:33] <DylanCl> Well
[12:33] <DylanCl> The program I have auto does that
[12:34] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, goot enought
[12:34] <chunkyhead> guys little help, i was installing oracle java 7 but i quit it was stuck. now whenever i try to install anything it gives me thing warning http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798382/
[12:35] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: how many memory should I give?
[12:35] <DylanCl> How many MB's
[12:35] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, 3 gigs?
[12:35] <susundberg> chunkyhead: you are running some other package manger
[12:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: quickest way - just reboot to make sure nothing has a lock on a file
[12:35] <chunkyhead> just dpkg
[12:35] <DylanCl> Alright
[12:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you can kill processes etc, but just reboot then you know it's clean
[12:35] <DylanCl> It's going
[12:35] <chunkyhead> let me reboot hold on ikonia  brb
[12:35] <chunkyhead> won't logging off serve the problem? ikonia
[12:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just reboot
[12:36] <chunkyhead> all user process initiated wil die
[12:36] <chunkyhead> ok
[12:36] <chunkyhead> brb
[12:36]  * cfhowlett ... and all your base are belong to us.
[12:54] <DylanCl> woah
[12:54] <DylanCl> spam of people joining and leaving
[12:54] <DylanCl> anyways, cfhowlett the iso is on the usb
[12:54] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, OK then
[12:54] <DylanCl> I'm going to give this another try :)
[12:54] <Aussie_matt> Hi all. I live in australia. the Dell XPS13 developer edition is not available here. I understand by getting a local xps13 with windows on it, I can create my own sputnik version. are there any problems with doing this?
[12:55] <DylanCl> It returned boot enter
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, none.
[12:55] <DylanCl> I mean
[12:55] <DylanCl> Boot error
[12:55] <DylanCl> I pressed enter and now it's on the Ubuntu launch screen
[12:55] <DylanCl> where you have the advanced options and such
[12:55] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: when you say none: I can buy any xps13 regardless of cpu and hard drive and it will be ok?
[12:55] <roberts> Hi. when I type a string in Nautilus it auto selects the first matching file/folder, but why it doesn't let me scroll with the mouse wheel all the other matches?
[12:56] <ezra-s> Aussie_matt, what kind of problems are you expecting?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, the downloaded sputnik iso should run without issue ...
[12:56] <mick27> what is the command in raring with upstart to enable or disable a daemon at boot ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, so ... ?
[12:56] <Aussie_matt> ezra-s: plenty given the device ships with win8 lol.   seriously though, is the new safe boot causing install issues?
[12:56] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: it didn't work. :P
[12:57] <DylanCl> cfhowlett: want me to give you the md5sum log?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, no need.  if it passed md5sum successfully
[12:57] <ezra-s> mick27, afaik it is update-rc.d
[12:57] <DylanCl> What do I do now? :/
[12:58] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, make/model of your computer and what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:58] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: I understand most of the sputnik changes were mainlined in 13.04 anyways?
[12:58] <mick27> ezra-s:  wasn't it changed with upstart ? i read initctl but I cannot seem to have this work
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, I dont' know those details, but see http://hwe.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[12:59] <ezra-s> Aussie_matt, UEFI is causing a lot of problems yes, there is a guide in the ubuntu website for installing along with UEFI, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:59] <roberts> When typing a string in Nautilus it auto selects the first matching file, but why  doesn't it let me scroll with the mouse wheel all the other matches the way it worked in the past?
[12:59] <ezra-s> mick27, why don't you try?
[12:59] <mick27> ezra-s:  I will, but I am looking for the 'official' way
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, also http://mattspitz.me/post/44202150125/a-month-with-dells-project-sputnik
[13:00] <DylanCl> HP G62 Notebook PC, BIOS version: F.32, Processor Type: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M35° @2.72GHz, Processor Speed: 2266 MHz
[13:01] <DylanCl> Total memory: 3072 MB
[13:01] <jrib> mick27: there is no command.  You have to modify files in /etc/init to your liking.  Read about "manual override" in the upstart cookbook
[13:01] <columb> Halp. After long time googling my sound is now "works". At least it's sizzle when it's should play sound. A bit better then nothing. :(
[13:01] <mick27> jrib: thx
[13:02] <columb> 12.04 LTS, CA106 audio card.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, did you get the 32 or 64 bit buntu?
[13:03] <DylanCl> 32 bit
[13:03] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, and no other error messages or guidance?
[13:03] <DylanCl> Nope
[13:03] <DylanCl> Just 'Boot Error'
[13:03] <ezra-s> DylanCl, is that thing using UEFI?
[13:03] <DylanCl> Where can I see if it's using UEFI?
[13:04] <ccdetails> looking for credit card expert
[13:04] <ezra-s> DylanCl, BIOS setup I guess, I haven't touched a machine with UEFI yet
[13:04] <cfhowlett> ccdetails, you are in the wrong room
[13:04] <DylanCl> let me see
[13:04] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: I have seen the sputnik iso yes. Have you used sputnik?
[13:04] <TheLordOfTime> ccdetails:  this is probably the wrong channel...
[13:04] <ccdetails> can you give me a channel
[13:04] <ezra-s> ccdetails, try #visa
[13:05] <ccdetails> ok thanks
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, once.  I'm not a developer so I know only the most general details
[13:05] <DylanCl> Nothing in the Bios Setup that says anything about EUFI
[13:05] <ezra-s> ccdetails, you can also try #security
[13:05] <knIOO> I just picked up a netbook with a cracked screen - is there any way to install Linux without any intervention - ie just a completely headless install that just sets itself up for SSH
[13:05] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, and you loaded 13.04, right?
[13:05] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: was it as good as they say?
[13:05] <DylanCl> No, I loaded 12.04
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, I don't have enough of a background to speak knowledgeably.  The integration of software/hardware is reported to be very smooth though
[13:07] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, same usb as last time?
[13:07] <DylanCl> Nope, a different one
[13:07] <DylanCl> Oh I didn't tell you what ubuntu I was running
[13:07] <DylanCl> Xubuntu 12.10
[13:07] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: no speed problems? Im running an old e2200 these days and compared to my g2020 workstation it's making me grumpy :(
[13:07] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, good enough.
[13:07] <DylanCl> Well, first I was running ubuntu 12.04, then I decided to update
[13:07] <mick27> ezra-s:  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[13:07] <DylanCl> but I just get a blackscreen when I launch
[13:08] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, so you DID install, right?
[13:08] <DylanCl> Install as in?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, I only tested it once then switched to ubuntustudio
[13:08] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, put in on the hard drive
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|DylanCl,
[13:08] <DylanCl> I think so..I did the update in the terminal
[13:08] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[13:08] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, I think it's a nomodeset error
[13:08] <DylanCl> I tried the nomodeset thing
[13:08] <DylanCl> but it didn't do anything
[13:09] <DylanCl> still gave me a black screen
[13:09] <DylanCl> A black screen with a '-' in the top left corner
[13:09] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, yeah that's the terminal and generally means you failed at boot.  It's a grub menu
[13:09] <ezra-s> mick27, thank you
[13:09] <DylanCl> So, what should I do?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, assuming good ISO, and good USB, and NOT a nomodeset issue ... I officially don't know what to do next.  ask in the channel, give details
[13:10] <DylanCl> Wait
[13:10] <DylanCl> Is the tutorial outdated?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, tutorial?
[13:10] <DylanCl> >That tutorial about nomodeset
[13:10] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, no, it should be pretty darn current
[13:11] <DylanCl> then there's something different on my side
[13:12] <DylanCl> after
[13:12] <DylanCl> after quiet splash\
[13:12] <DylanCl> there's also $vt_handoff
[13:12] <ehhh> starts with a $ right
[13:12] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, turn off quite splash and see if you get some error messages to work with
[13:13] <ehhh> i tried nomodeset myself yesterday i couldn't get back to the os or anything after updating to 12.10 so i decided to just run 12.04 for now
[13:13] <vladnosferatu> hello, i change the boot to text mode, how i start x ? now ?
[13:13] <DylanCl> It just launched a console
[13:13] <DylanCl> where I need to login
[13:13] <ehhh> since i couldn't get usb to boot properly on that computer
[13:13] <ehhh> reboot
[13:14] <DylanCl> And redo the thing?
[13:14] <ehhh> did you click ctrl+x after editing the grub boot sequence
[13:14] <DylanCl> YeahRight: h
[13:14] <DylanCl> oh I quoted somebody
[13:14] <DylanCl> I mean yeah
[13:14] <DylanCl> so just delete quiet splash
[13:15] <DylanCl> and nothing else?
[13:15] <DylanCl> or quiet splash\
[13:15] <ehhh> take away quiet splash and i'm pretty sure you had to add something or put between
[13:15] <DylanCl> nomodeset?
[13:15] <ehhh> oh yeah, yeah
[13:16] <DylanCl> and do I remove $vt_handoff?
[13:16] <ehhh> just leave it there
[13:16] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, COULD be that the extra options whacked you.  make a new usb, ISO only standard options no extras
[13:17] <DylanCl> Can I try unetboot? or should I stick with the old program
[13:17] <napster> My wifi adapter looks out of order. It gets connected for a while and then disconnects after some time, say 2-3 minutes. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> DylanCl, my preference is familiarity is with unetbootin but that's just me ...
[13:18] <DylanCl> Well
[13:18] <ehhh> i tried all of them yesterday to no avail, what is your basic problem ? the os won't load after update?
[13:18] <DylanCl> for me the sourcefourge site of unetbootin is down
[13:18] <ehhh> upgrade*
[13:18] <DylanCl> are you talking to me ehhh ?
[13:18] <ehhh> yeah i'm slinging stuff everywhere
[13:18] <DylanCl> haha no problems
[13:18] <DylanCl> but yeah
[13:18] <DylanCl> I updated in the terminal from ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 12.10
[13:19] <DylanCl> After seeing the blue Xubuntu 12.10 screen where it's loading
[13:19] <DylanCl> it just stops, goes to a black screen
[13:19] <DylanCl> with a '-' at the top left corner
[13:19] <ehhh> yeah I had the same problem yesterday except i just tried to upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04
[13:19] <DylanCl> that's downgrade
[13:19] <DylanCl> and I heard downgrading is near impossible on ubuntu
[13:20] <ehhh> no you need to read that line again and interpret it properly :P
[13:20] <DylanCl> oh
[13:20] <ehhh> lol
[13:20] <DylanCl> noooo not cfhowlett
[13:21] <DylanCl> I'm going to try to update from 12.10 to 13.04
[13:21] <DylanCl> Maybe that will work
[13:21] <ehhh> basically what i ended up with was running 12.04 because i could install it from a cd-rom, i've had this problem before when upgrading earlier basically every time
[13:21] <ehhh> then i'll try a clean install of xubuntu 13.04 when i can get the dvds
[13:22] <DylanCl> I'd pay $100 to get my 12.04 back lol
[13:22] <ehhh> lol, do you have a cd/dvd with 12.04 ?
[13:22] <DylanCl> No
[13:22] <DylanCl> Only an usb
[13:22] <ccdetails>  looking for a credit card details expert
[13:22] <armin> and another nice one: mouse cursor suddenly completely hidden, only way to fix it killing X.
[13:22] <armin> m(
[13:22] <DylanCl> ugh
[13:23] <DylanCl> back to the black screen
[13:23] <DylanCl> seriously fuck xubuntu :/
[13:23] <FloodBot1> DylanCl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <DylanCl> time to download ubuntu 13.04
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ccdetails, . you won't find one here
[13:23] <ehhh> i don't think it's X that's the problem  . . what i found out was that after updating and upgrading 12.10 had removed some important files that it wasn't supposed to. .
[13:24] <BluesKaj> !legal | ccdetails
[13:24] <DylanCl> well what should I do?
[13:24] <ccdetails> yup
[13:24] <ehhh> so it wouldn't work. . hence i need to do a clean 13.04 install
[13:24] <DylanCl> I'm just testing out stuff right now
[13:25] <BluesKaj> or illegal  , ccdetails
[13:25] <acerimmer> DylanCl, for testing, install virtualbox in windows.  install ubuntu's to virtualbox.
[13:25] <DylanCl> I'm currently installing 13.04 since it only takes a few minutes
[13:25] <DylanCl> ah that's a good idea
[13:25] <ehhh> it's worth a try
[13:26] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, are you around ?
[13:28] <columb> Sizzle instead of sound on ubuntu 12.4 LTS with audio card CA106. Alsamixer screenshot - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27770548/t/alsamixer.png
[13:31] <FfoO> Greetings, everyone; I have a little question here: I have my hidden network here, to which I connect by '$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [NameOfNetwork]'. I would like to save it so I wouldn't need to type that every time I log in.
[13:32] <th0r> FfoO, I used network mangler to log into my network when I had it hidden...no problem
[13:32] <reisio> FfoO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[13:32] <MinecraftRocks> hi
[13:33] <reisio> MinecraftRocks: hi
[13:34] <BluesKaj> columb, which audio feed are using , spdif ot analog ?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> are you using , rather
, no idea. How do I know it?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> columb, do you have speakers connected to the soundcard ? that would be analog
[13:36] <ubuntu1> sfjfjf
[13:37] <ubuntu1> mex vs par 10 a.m
[13:37] <columb> No. It's 5.1 speakers. They are connected to subwoofer.
[13:39] <FfoO> Yet about the hidden network: is it possible to create a text file with the '$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [NameOfNetwork]' and save it with somewhere so it would be part of the system files?
[13:39] <FfoO> -with
[13:39] <BluesKaj> columb, then how is the subwoofer connected ?
[13:39] <ubuntu1> mex vs par 10 a.m
[13:40] <FfoO> I use ubuntu 12.04, by the way.
[13:41] <columb> BluesKaj. Oh. I just switched from Digital to Analot output. Now it's work. But only stereo.
[13:41] <Dylancl> ehhh: guess what
[13:41] <Dylancl> I launched the installation of 13.04
[13:41] <Dylancl> it worked :D
[13:41] <Dylancl> omg I'm so happy right now
[13:42] <acerimmer> so it
[13:42] <acerimmer> installed
[13:42] <acerimmer> ?
[13:42] <reisio> FfoO: yes
[13:42] <columb> BluesKaj, found a way to make it work. Thanks!
[13:42] <reisio> to make what work?
[13:42] <columb> 5.1 speakers.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> columb, ok ghood
[13:42] <Dylancl> I got ubuntu 13.04 to work
[13:43] <Dylancl> I had Xubuntu 12.10 but it returned a black screen
[13:43] <reisio> ah
[13:44] <FfoO> Okay. Thank you reisio and th0r.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> columb, does your subwoofer input have a digital option?
[13:45] <columb> BluesKaj, no idea.
[13:45] <yayo> I have a local java app which I run as a regular user that wants to use tcp port 90. how do I make it available without making it available for external connections? I also have firestarter firewall installed
[13:45] <roberts> When typing a string in Nautilus it auto selects the first matching file, but why  doesn't it let me scroll with the mouse wheel all the other matches the way it worked in the past?
[13:45] <gordonjcp> yayo: are you behind a NAT router?
[13:46] <mumpitze1> yayo: listening on port 90?
[13:46] <mumpitze1> yayo: and normally you configure the program to listen on localhost aka 127.0.0.1 only
[13:46] <BluesKaj> columb, look in your instructions that came with the speaker system
[13:47] <yayo> gordonjcp: mumpitze1 the app is a server tomcat style, so it will go to localhost..... I am not under a router, I am directly plugged in to internet connection
[13:47] <columb> BluesKaj I installed them like 3 years ago. Or so. No instructions left.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> columb,  ok
[13:49] <Dylancl> What have I learned about ubuntu today: never give up
[13:51] <kurthybela_> Hi all
[13:51] <yayo> I have a local java app which I run as a regular user that wants to use tcp port 90. how do I make it available without making it available for external connections? I also have firestarter firewall installed
[13:51] <acerimmer> Dylancl, wisdom you have gained ...
[13:51] <ptge> hi
[13:51] <acerimmer> Dylancl, more to learn you have
[13:51] <acerimmer> ptge, greetings
[13:52] <quanticka> ey
[13:52] <kurthybela_> I want to ask You about GPL licence in software development
[13:53] <acerimmer> !ot|kurthybela_, not the best channel for that ...
[13:53] <quanticka> is there a channel for jquery, or java/js in general?
[13:53] <kurthybela_> ubottu, okey, sorry :)
[13:54] <quanticka> lolcomcast
[13:55] <dotcom> Hi there. Lately my cpu is running too slow. What can be the reason? Have a look at this "sensors" output, http://i.imgur.com/jXRXFym.png
[13:56] <dotcom> And this is from "dmesg" log, http://i.imgur.com/jXRXFym.png
[13:56] <raphinou> anyone willing to help me debug a udev rule?
[13:56] <wheatthin> looks like they are running hot dotcom
[13:57] <raphinou> Here's the rule: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{serial}="N204B34306621", RUN+='/usr/local/bin/test.sh'
[13:57] <raphinou> does this seem correct?
[13:57] <dotcom> wheatthin: Is it normal? Can this temperature damage my cpu?
[13:57] <dotcom> What does "Alarm" mean?
[13:57] <wheatthin> dotcom, it can indeed.. normal operating temps are near 70c
[13:58] <wheatthin> dotcom, try cleaning out heatsyncs and use new thermal paste to see if that helps
[13:59] <dotcom> ok
[14:00] <dotcom> By the way, what does "Alarm" mean in that line, "Core 0:      +92.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  ALARM  "  ?
[14:01] <SamEEE> i'd wager if you're running that hot it is a thermal paste issue
[14:01] <vlad22> remember bye bye at 99
[14:02] <mumpitze1> dotcom: it's above the "high" threshold
[14:02] <SamEEE> i dont let my cpu run hotter than 50 degrees
[14:02] <mumpitze1> SamEEE: he might have a laptop
[14:02] <vlad22> I max at 56
[14:02] <TakumoKatekari> SamEEE: I wish I could keep mine that cool, I keep it ad under 65 until I get a new case
[14:02] <SamEEE> mumpitze1: hadn't thought of that
[14:03] <TakumoKatekari> Hopefully this summer the hot weather will make me get a better case and liquid cooling.
[14:03] <dotcom> vlad22: "Core 0:      +98.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  ALARM"     close enough
[14:03] <SamEEE> Noctua Coolers work really well.  Have an old E8400 which i've overclocked to 4.0GHz and it runs really cool
[14:06] <dotcom> One constraint is that i have to put this pc in scorching heat of 38 degree celcius surrounding temperature.
[14:06] <munzx> hi guys! ..... what is the best ultrabook for ubuntu! !!!! ???
[14:06] <acerimmer> !best
[14:07] <acerimmer> munzx, obviously opinions differ.  That said, see http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/f/4613.aspx
[14:08] <SamEEE> I like the 430s Lenovo
[14:08] <vlad22> I'm using a E2 gateway
[14:08] <munzx> acerimmer : yea i know but i want an opinion of some1 using the ultrabook!
[14:09] <chimera_> teste
[14:10] <somsip> munzx: "If you insist on getting  people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[14:10] <munzx> ok .. so oth of 430s Lenovo and E2 gateway  has an SSD and intel 4000 ! right?
[14:10] <vlad22> ssd here but apu sorry
[14:11] <munzx> somsip: thanks but i really dont know how to do that :-(
[14:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:12] <munzx> ok thanks guys
[14:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:32] <vlad24bit> how do you compile custom sdl libraries in a make command
[14:36] <ActionPa1snip> vlad24bit: I'd ask in #c++
[14:36] <vlad24bit> k
[14:43] <Ari-Yang> hey, if I run aptitude purge fglrx (it said that fglrx{p} will be removed, which I confirmed and removed), does that mean that if I try selecting fglrx from Software Sources in the Additional Drivers tab, won't work?
[14:43] <Ari-Yang> this is 12.10
[14:45] <fei> fei
[14:47] <zwov> hello :)
[14:48] <reisio> zwov: hi
[14:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:49] <zwov> i just tsarted with ubuntu and already figured out many things, but still...what is the most important things i need to know?
[14:50] <reisio> zwov: the most important thing you need to know with any OS is how to update and maintain an installation
[14:50] <reisio> zwov: namely, how to utilize the package manager
[14:51] <reisio> alas, without another installation (though it can be in a VM), you can't really learn this naturally without the passage of time
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> hey, if I run aptitude purge fglrx (it said that fglrx{p} will be removed, which I confirmed and removed), does that mean that if I try selecting fglrx from Software Sources in the Additional Drivers tab, it will fail to activate and I have to install it again? This is ubuntu 12.10
[14:51] <yakeb> Hi chatroom. I am running Ubuntu 12.04.2. I have an issue in which, when I wake my desktop computer from hibernation, it seems that the keyboard does not work and the screen stays asleep. Could this be caused by something very obvious and easy to resolve?
[14:53] <zwov> reisio i recon the software center pretty much handles everytinhg aroud here
[14:54] <reisio> zwov: I reckon not, but that is your privilege :p
[14:54] <bob__> How do I install my laptop's built in webcam?
[14:54] <reisio> bob__: you might see if it 'just works' first
[14:54] <reisio> install cheese
[14:55] <zwov> reisio I'm new to ubuntu so maybe in time I'll know more but for now, software center and "sudo" have done pretty much anything i needed :D
[14:55] <reisio> zwov: sit back and enjoy it, then :)
[14:55] <bob__> reisio: how?!? there are no cam apps as I searched in  dash home
[14:56] <reisio> bob__: install cheese
[14:56] <reisio> or luvcview
[14:56] <reisio> or guvcview
[14:56] <reisio> or mplayer
[14:58] <ActionPa1snip> bob__: cheese is a decent cam tester
[14:59] <rypervenche> Anyone have any idea why my claws-mail wouldn't be able to find a public key when I try to send an GPG-encrypted message? I have imported the key properly, however it doesn't seem to be able to find the key when I try to encrypt the message.
[14:59] <reisio> bob__: in case you needed to hear it a third time :p
[15:00] <zwov> and i found out how much freedom this Ubuntu offers...in windows its all accept terms of use and you have to buy this and that and there goes NSA from the backdoor and there you need to upgrade this and all sorst of shit that just dont happen on linux... :D
[15:00] <viju> Hi, how to hibernate computer?
[15:00] <reisio> zwov: indeed
[15:00] <reisio> viju: laptop?
[15:00] <viju> Yes reisio .
[15:01] <reisio> viju: there should be hibernation options in the menu somewhere, in that case
[15:01] <reisio> likely it will hibernate on its own if you close the lid and remove the power cable and leave it long enough
[15:01] <zwov> only bad thing i see is that i wont develop on .NET platform anymore, but in time i can rewrite all my codes in java and that would solve about anything
[15:03] <viju> reisio: There's an option in settings for hibernate, but it's greyed.
[15:03] <reisio> zwov: you can develop .NET on Unix systems, actually
[15:03] <reisio> probably more effectively
[15:03] <reisio> but I'm not sure you'd want to, knowing .NET is reliant more than anything on Microsoft
[15:03] <reisio> viju: check your BIOS options first
[15:03] <tresipunt_> hellow people
[15:04] <zwov> i heard about the Mono but i dont feel like moving a finger over MS systems anymore...
[15:04] <viju> reisio: How?
[15:04] <reisio> zwov: that is the right feeling :)
[15:04] <tresipunt_> can anyone help me with this error:
[15:04] <tresipunt_> Couldn't load file:/home/tresipunt/Escriptori/TideSDK-Developer-1.4.2-linux-x86/runtime/1.3.1-beta/libtide.so, error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /home/tresipunt/Escriptori/TideSDK-Developer-1.4.2-linux-x86/runtime/1.3.1-beta/libtide.so)
[15:04] <reisio> the idea of moving my coworkers' systems that use ASP on Windows Server, however, to mono based Unix, makes me so happy :p
[15:04] <reisio> until they can learn a real language
[15:06] <zwov> always hated MS but sticked to it because i was goot at .NEt programing...but the PRISM was the last drop and i said to myself...do i need this shit?
[15:07] <SolarisBoy> tresipunt_: seems that whatever your trying to do requires a specific glibc version -
[15:07] <reisio> zwov: and that's not even the best reason to avoid Microsoft stuff :)
[15:08] <tresipunt_> SolarisBoy,  I hae up to version 3.14 but not 3.15
[15:08] <reisio> the best reason is that it's massively inferior :D
[15:08] <tresipunt_> I dont know how to install it
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> tresipunt_: hmmm
[15:09] <tresipunt_> ok it was as easy as to do sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[15:09] <tresipunt_> xD
[15:09] <reisio> now you have six incremented STDs in your library
[15:09] <reisio> gj
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> tresipunt_: cool - i was just typing 'apt-cache search..' and you replied back =)
[15:10] <SolarisBoy> i get scared of playing with glibc =(
[15:10] <zwov> i know... i would say the best thing is that, hen you have a problem with MS stuff, you write on support and answer comes like in year..here oyu just pop into IRC and find always someone capable and willing to help and even some day, it can be you
[15:10] <kaje> My /boot partition filled up and now apt is choking. I've cleared some space, but I'm getting this error when I try to install anything: http://pastebin.com/bGtWrA1F
[15:10] <kaje> What should I do to fix this problem?
[15:10] <SolarisBoy> zwov: also to add the answer from MS when it comes back generally is extremely lame
[15:14] <zwov> SolarisBoy: well, hard to tell, never got any...
[15:14] <blz> Hello, I'm getting the following error when I try apt-get update:  "Reading package lists... Error!
[15:14] <blz> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list (dist parse).  E: The list of sources could not be read. E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list has one line which reads "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring partner".  What gives?
[15:14] <SolarisBoy> anyone happen to be using anything for placing windows (like devils2 pie or whatever)& using a standard ubuntu 12.04 install?
[15:15] <SolarisBoy> blz: do you have some typo or problematic characters in that file on the referenced line?
[15:15] <blz> SolarisBoy, I don't see any =/
[15:15] <blz> SolarisBoy, unless I've missed something
[15:15] <SolarisBoy> blz: post your file to pastebin maybe someone can help.
[15:15] <blz> SolarisBoy, I just posted the entire contents of the file
[15:15] <goblin> hi, I tried to install a custom terminal application to the panel via a .desktop file in .local/share/applications, but while it is found and displayed correctly in the HUD, if I execute it, another empty element is created on the sidebar
[15:15]  * SolarisBoy lastlogging
[15:15] <reisio> SolarisBoy: I use wmctrl in scripts every now and again
[15:16] <goblin> this is the file: http://pastebin.com/RcEjs4SQ
[15:16] <Ari-Yang> hey, if I run aptitude purge fglrx (it said that fglrx{p} will be removed, which I confirmed and removed), does that mean that if I try selecting fglrx from Software Sources in the Additional Drivers tab, it will fail to activate and I have to install it again? This is ubuntu 12.10
[15:16] <SolarisBoy> reisio: does it work for you with workspaces or "viewports" or whatever? when i list my workspaces i get one huge workspace
[15:16] <blz> SolarisBoy, the file only contains:  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring partner
[15:17] <reisio> SolarisBoy: I only use one monitor typically :)
[15:17] <bob__> I downloaded cheese, but it isn't working. My built in camers seems to be not installed
[15:17] <SolarisBoy> reisio: =( I got two lol
[15:17] <reisio> two at work, but at work I have bigger fish
[15:17] <reisio> bob__: what does lsusb say?
[15:17] <SolarisBoy> reisio: @ work right now =)
[15:17] <whoever> hi all, i have 12.10 on a notebook,  and when i select shutdown , the lappy restarts, but if i hold the power button on the laptop it will shut down. can someone asist
[15:18] <bob__> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798802/
[15:18] <goblin> ok, some clarification, its not a terminal application, its a terminal emulator application, and I'm using ubuntu 13.04
[15:19] <SolarisBoy> reisio: yea - so i found only way which is painstaking, it's the viewport way which seems broken in devilspie2 - its basically calculating the size of the desktop and splitting it into "view ports" and then it uses those coords to place things properly - which really sounds painful =)
[15:19] <blz> Okay, so removing the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring partner" gets rid of the errors.  Does anybody see what's wrong with that line?
[15:19] <blz> Because I'll be damned if I can find anything wrong with it =/
[15:19] <SolarisBoy> i do like that devilspie2 went lua for configs and i *should* be able to use some sort of exec command to run wmcntrl from devilspie2 hopefully
[15:20] <SolarisBoy> blz: possible the trailing backslash?
[15:21] <SolarisBoy> i always like open files in vim and run :set list and see any hidden chars if they exist - like from winblows editing
[15:21] <blz> SolarisBoy, good thought, but no... what you see is literally the entire line (the entire file, actually...)
[15:21] <blz> SolarisBoy, hmm that's a very good thought.  I'll try that
[15:21] <SolarisBoy> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ vs. http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[15:22] <blz> SolarisBoy, also a good thought
[15:22] <blz> alright let me try that out
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> is how you understood trailing slash?
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> cool
[15:22] <michagogo> How can I automatically mount a filesystem on boot? I run 12.04 off of an external drive occasionally, with my primary OS being Windows. I have my IRC client from Windows installed using Wine, and I have the logs directory symlinked to /media/FEB07213B071D31F/Users/Micha/AppData/Roaming/....., pointing to the logs folder on Windows.
[15:22] <blz> SolarisBoy, I thought you said backslash, but I suppose that's also worth a try
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> oh yea - thats a forward slash haha =)
[15:22]  * SolarisBoy facepalm
[15:22] <blz> ^^
[15:23] <SolarisBoy> dont worry i actually say things like this to my co workers and it drives them bat shi* - "YOU SAID BACKSLASH DUDE"...
[15:23] <michagogo> However, each time I boot, that path doesn't exist until I click "727 GB Filesystem" in the file browser
[15:23] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: configuring the mount point  in fstab should work
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: /etc/fstab will persist your mounts -
[15:24] <michagogo> What is that?
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> a file that persists mounts.
[15:24] <michagogo> Ah
[15:24] <mbeierl> !fstab
[15:24] <michagogo> What do I need to do?
[15:24] <michagogo> Ah, okay
[15:24] <michagogo> !partitions
[15:24] <blz> SolarisBoy, so this seems to have gotten us somewhere.  Now it's complaining about duplicate entries, but it's not throwing any critical errors.
[15:24] <michagogo> I'll take a look
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: start by reading up on that one ^
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> blz: that should be cool - im anal i would look for the dupe =)
[15:25] <SolarisBoy> i hate warnings!
[15:25] <blz> SolarisBoy, yeah I'm like you!  There's still only the one line in that file, though =/
[15:25] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: well im not sure you are so concerned with partitioning as much as mounting something that sounds like an existing filesystem, in which case, you probably dont want to partition - so just to be clear - read the link on fstab -
[15:26] <SolarisBoy> blz: oh you may want to expand your search area - 'grep -r <dup_string> /etc/apt' recursively search there.
[15:26] <blz> Actually this doesn't make much sense to me at all... what's this business in /var/lib?  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_r
[15:26] <blz> aring_partner_binary-i386_Packages)  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> oh maybe you want to run apt-get update
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> word
[15:27] <blz> SolarisBoy, I did
[15:27] <blz> a few times
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> interesting
[15:27] <blz> I know, right?
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> oh wait
[15:27] <SolarisBoy> do the clean up commands
[15:28] <hadifarnoud> is anyone here also on #ubuntu-server?
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> actually - first remove the entry - run like apt-get clean or whatever - then apt-get update
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> then put it back and apt-get udpate its just a stale entry in the caching areas i think
[15:28] <blz> SolarisBoy, I'm not sure which entry to clean up
[15:28] <blz> maybe I should just remove the entire i386 file?
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> apt-get clean doesn't take args
[15:28] <SolarisBoy> ^
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> blz: lsb_release -a; grep -R partner /etc/apt/*    what is output (please use a pastebin like http://pastie.org)
[15:29] <blz> ActionPa1snip, do you want that with sudo?
[15:29] <SolarisBoy> shouldn't need it
[15:29] <ActionPa1snip> blz: no, or I would have added sudo
[15:29] <blz> Just checking ;-)
[15:29] <ActionPa1snip> blz: no bad thing :)
[15:29] <blz> ActionPa1snip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798837/
[15:29] <whoever> i have installed laptop-mode-tools and the  issue persists
[15:30] <ripthejacker> Are there unity equivalent of KDE widgets?
[15:30] <blz> That last line seems to be in there twice
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> ripthejacker: gdesklets, the DE is still gnome
[15:30] <ripthejacker> Or any way to have desktop widgets
[15:30] <SolarisBoy> its in the mail file and in a additional file
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> blz: can you pastebin the text please
[15:30] <SolarisBoy> /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list
[15:30] <ripthejacker> ActionPa1snip: ok thanks , i'll have a look at it
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> blz: sorry, missed the link
[15:31] <blz> ActionPa1snip, no worries. It's always busy in here
[15:31] <michagogo> SolarisBoy: It looks to me like udisks would be much simpler. Can I just do that?
[15:31] <kaje> Any thoughts on how to fix this apt problem?: http://pastebin.com/bGtWrA1F
[15:31] <ActionPa1snip> blz: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list; sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[15:31] <SolarisBoy> michagogo: udisks simpler than fstab - sure im sure you can im not familiar with udisks though =(
[15:31] <michagogo> I'm currently looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[15:31] <ActionPa1snip> kaje: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[15:32] <blz> ActionPa1snip, that seems to have done it.  Any idea how this might have happened?
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> blz: you enabled the partner repo, it added an extra file when the repo was already defined in sources.list
[15:32] <whoever> need some assistance with http://askubuntu.com/questions/130160/ubuntu-12-04-does-a-restart-instead-of-a-shutdown
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> kaje  what's the output of      cat /etc/issue;sudo apt-get update   ?
[15:33] <blz> ActionPa1snip, I see. That's what I get for doing several things at once.  Thanks for your help!
[15:33] <whoever> i don't think that the path contains * so what should i put in its place
[15:33] <blz> SolarisBoy, thanks for your help as well!
[15:33] <btorch> is there no option to not use this unity crap when installing ubuntu  ?
[15:33] <blz> btorch, what do you want to use?
[15:33] <btorch> just classic gnome
[15:33] <SolarisBoy> np
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> btorch  install some other DE, logout, change, login
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> ^
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> or WM
[15:33] <sw> whoever: So you've come here for support, and expect someone to open their browser, go to that link, read your problem and then provide a solution back in here? Just ask your question here and if someone knows the answer they'll answer ;-)
[15:34] <blz> btorch, have you tried google?
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> btorch: you can install gnome-panel and get the old school session, I believe cinnammon is in the repos now
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> btorch: or install Xubuntu which is equally supported as Ubuntu and does not ship with Unity
[15:34] <blz> btorch, because there are a __lot__ of people who prefer gnome classic, and afaik it's just a matter of enabling a ppa and installing gnome classic
[15:34] <ActionPa1snip> blz: no need for any ppa, gnome-panel is in the repos
[15:34] <kaje> ActionPa1snip, MonkeyDust: Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/Xzgc5fGJ
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> kaje  i see a mix of i386 and amd64 sources
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> kaje  maybe that conflicts
[15:36] <kingbeast> In 12.04 you still have to add the repos
[15:36] <whoever> sw: the solution says write on into /sys/bus/*/devices/*/power/control . but i do not think the pathe contains * so what am i to put in its place
[15:37] <ActionPa1snip> !info gnome-panel precise
[15:37] <sw> whoever: That will work as it is.
[15:37] <kingbeast> for cinnamon
[15:38] <kaje> This all started because my /boot was full. I cleared out the space and ran upgrade, but I'm still getting this dependency error message.
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> !info cinnamon precise
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> !info cinnamon quantal
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> !info cinnamon raring
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> yay
[15:38] <whoever> sw: ok, so i am not understanding how to apply this scrip then
[15:39] <sw> whoever: What script?
[15:39] <kaje> I don't get why it isn't installing linux-server 3.2.0.48.58 to match the other packages...
[15:39] <kingbeast> ActionPa1snip, I only know that because I use cinnamon on 12.04
[15:39] <holstein> kaje: how customized is your system? why do you have a seperate /boot ?
[15:40] <kaje> I'm not sure. But, the boot space issue has been resolved. I just have this package dependency error now.
[15:40] <genii> kaje: It's suggesting to use sudo apt-get autoremove  to clear out the kernel cruft in /boot , did you try that yet?
[15:41] <michagogo> SolarisBoy: Looks like the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions did the trick. Thanks for your help!
[15:41] <zztr1> i'm having issues with a new install of ubuntu-gnome detecting my old monitor. i've been quacking (ddg.gg) for a few hours and I can't find much help regarding gdm (or other) for getting this to work. my monitor ( http://kiq.me/JEX ) has windows drivers only, but my previous install of fedora 17 was working with it. pointers please?
[15:41] <whoever> sw http://askubuntu.com/questions/130160/ubuntu-12-04-does-a-restart-instead-of-a-shutdown
[15:41] <holstein> kaje: sure, but if you have customized other parts of the system/install, that might be responsibe for the issues you are seeing.. might be worth looking into what else you have dont.. PPAs?
[15:41] <ActionPa1snip> kingbeast: gotcha, I think DEs are a waste of resources, a WM on it's own does me :)
[15:41] <mn2010> lightdm zztr1
[15:41] <ActionPa1snip> zztr1: monitors dont need drivers, even in windows
[15:41] <holstein> zztr1: i would remove gnome from the equation.. see that is has nothing to do with gnome
[15:42] <kingbeast> ActionPa1snip, I used to run fluxbox, just have gotten lazy in elder days...lol
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> zztr1: what video chip are you using?
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> kingbeast: openbox here :)
[15:42] <michagogo> Why +r *and* +q $~a?
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> kingbeast: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/24thJune2013.png     openbox + tint2 + pcmanfm
[15:43] <kaje> genii: Yes, I did that and it made a lot of space in /boot. Now these dependency errors remain
[15:43] <mn2010> -_- drivers for monitors are pointless, if it doesnt support EDID or DDC, manually specify the Resolutions and its hz in xorg.conf
[15:43] <zztr1> holstein: mn2010: [ $(which lightdm; echo $?; ) = 0 ]
[15:44] <zztr1> ActionPa1snip: i don't know... (looks inside)
[15:45] <kaje> genii: Can I force it to upgrade the linux-server package to 3.2.0.48.58?
[15:45] <zztr1> ActionPa1snip: geoforce gt220
[15:46] <kaje> Or downgrade the other two dependencies and then run a normal upgrade?
[15:46] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:47] <Vec_> I have just installed ubuntu server 12.04 on my home server. I want this server to share files and a printer. I am 99% new to linux and as such not familiar with the terminal. What do you guys recommend me doing to administer/configurate this home server? I've been looking at webmin (i know its discontiniued for ubuntu) and Zentyal but i'm not 100% sure what i really need here.
[15:47] <Vec_> I have just installed ubuntu server 12.04 on my home server. I want this server to share files and a printer. I am 99% new to linux and as such not familiar with the terminal. What do you guys recommend me doing to administer/configurate this home server? I've been looking at webmin (i know its discontiniued for ubuntu) and Zentyal but i'm not 100% sure what i really need here.
[15:47] <blz> Vec_, CUPS should be able to manage printer sharing with samba
[15:47] <blz> Vec_, are you sharing with windows machines?
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> Vec_: install samba and the printer will share
[15:48] <holstein> Vec_: i would install a desktop OS, something light-ish, such as lubuntu or xubuntu, and serve the shares from there, with a desktop environment on the server that you might be more comfortable interfacing with
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> Vec_: you can share folders by defining shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:48] <Vec_> Sharing with windows machines yes
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> Vec_: or for secure file sharing, use sftp which is activated when you installed openssh-server
[15:48] <blz> Vec_, then samba is the way to go
[15:48] <blz> Vec_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[15:49] <gene__> anyone alive here?
[15:49] <blz> gene__, nope
[15:49] <gene__> :( okay
[15:50] <blz> gene__, you missed the monthly sepukku party
[15:50] <Zenger> Hi guys, I've made a few tests on my VPS with ubuntu, and I have been uninstalling and installing nginx a few times. Now I have a big issue, I've installed nginx but it doesn't exist anywhere. Ubuntu says it exists, it even runs the dameon, but no files of nginx exist anywhere. What could be the problem ?
[15:50] <tgunr> I need to use a Macintosh Disk Utility to create a USB stick from the ISO, it's going onto a Supermicro X7DCA-L for installation, my question is what format should I use on the stick? is MSDOS FAT good enough? (lowest common denominator?)
[15:51] <Corey> tgunr: No.
[15:51] <Corey> tgunr: Use the disk utility to restore the ISO to the drive; google is your friend.
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: FAT is fine
[15:51] <holstein> Zenger: configuration, likely ..i would ask in a server or nginx support channel..
[15:51] <blz> I have a service running via a file in /etc/init.d  I can start/stop it with "sudo service ..." but I would like it to __not__ start when my system boots.  How can I achieve this?
[15:51] <Corey> ActionPa1snip: ISOs contain their own filesystem already.
[15:51] <tgunr> huh? what drive? I'm creating a USB stick
[15:52] <Zenger> holstein: hm, thx, will try that too
[15:52] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: yes but the USB stick needs to be writable for tyhe files to be spat out to it
[15:52] <Corey> blz: update-rc.d disable :-)
[15:52] <Corey> ActionPa1snip: Writeable, not formatted.
[15:52] <blz> Corey, well that's much simpler than expected!  And I'll still be able to start it with service <servicename> start ?
[15:53] <Corey> blz: Correct. I forget the exactly update-rc.d syntax.
[15:53] <Corey> exact!
[15:53] <Corey> I can't type today.
[15:53]  * tgunr does some more googling
[15:53] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: loads of guies say to format it, so I follow suit.
[15:53] <blz> Corey, cool, thanks!
[15:53] <Corey> ActionPa1snip: Cargo cult support. :-p
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#requirements   states: If your USB drive doesn't show up, reformat it as FAT32.
[15:54] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i'm currently using 'brcmsmac' driver for my "Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)" , but it doesn't support ad-hoc mode. Is it possible to use propietary driver for ?
[15:54] <tgunr> I could try them all but the guy doing the install is an hour from the computer, would like to get it right the first time
[15:54] <blz> Corey, it works!  sudo update-rc.d <servicename> disable
[15:54] <blz> thanks!
[15:55] <Corey> blz: Hooray. Sweet.
[15:55] <holstein> tgunr: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx is this what you are looking for? not sure why you preface with "i need to use mac disk utiliy" ... you need to make a bootable stick, correct?
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: what is teh output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> Corey: what say you now?
[15:55] <XATRIX> ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 13.04
[15:55] <tgunr> correct, but it is going to be installed onto a supermicro, not a mac
[15:55] <holstein> tgunr: they are both intel, correct?
[15:56] <tgunr> have to check the mac, but i think so
[15:56] <holstein> tgunr: feel free and refer to the link above.. its how to make a bootable usb from osx..
[15:56] <zslewis> hello
[15:56] <tgunr> yeah, its a mac so no endian problem
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: thats not the output
[15:57] <gene__> I'm getting a "The system is running in low-graphics mode" error oon VirtualBox ubuntu installation. Anyone have any idea?
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: copy and paste the text outputted please
[15:57] <holstein> gene__: the "guest" os is ubuntu? and is reporting that?
[15:57] <kaje> Anyone else know how I can fix this apt dependency problem? http://pastebin.com/fvczXPZZ
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> gene__: ask in #vbox too
[15:58] <Kacey> hello
[15:58] <XATRIX> xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ cat /etc/issue
[15:58] <XATRIX> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:58] <XATRIX> xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$
[15:58] <gene__> ActionPa1snip, the host is windows 7
[15:58] <holstein> kaje: i would try downgrading.. do you have PPA's? did you do anything else custom to the system?
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> gene__: I know of an xorg.conf file that sets it to 1024x768
[15:58] <whoever> is laptop-mode-tools needed in 12.10 ? i don't see any added feature or power managment
[15:58] <kaje> holstein: no. How do I downgrade?
[15:59] <ActionPa1snip> XATRIX: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155752
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> whoever, system settings->power
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> ?
[15:59] <holstein> kaje: i would just try some things.. i would try different package managers.. i would look at what i have added or changed from the default install
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> the icon for it is a battery
[15:59] <tgunr> holstein: ynx, will cross my fingers, my initial thought was to restore the flash drive from the iso, which would then make the flash drive same as the iso
[16:00] <kaje> holstein: is it safe to remove linux-server or is that going to screw up my system?
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> kaje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[16:00] <kaje> I am 4000 miles away from this server and it would be very bad if it became inoperable...
[16:01] <blz> I often reinstall ubuntu (usually with every release) and it's becoming a pain to re-add all my PPAs, packages and custom settings.  Is there a way to automate this?
[16:01] <kaje> ActionPa1snip: was that meant for someone else?
[16:01] <whoever> Ari-Yang: nope nothing newer there, after installing laptop-mode-tool8s
[16:02] <XATRIX> ActionPa1snip: yes, but as long as i know, broadcom-wl (the one my Ubuntu's propitary driver dialog) offers me, need some kernel patches or something like this.
[16:03] <tgunr> kaje: I'm only 2000 miles away
[16:03] <pqangel> hi :)
[16:04] <kaje> Hmm, I think I found a solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252704/i-cannot-install-any-package-linux-image-server-linux-server-dependencies-erro
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> kaje: sorry, seem so
[16:04] <holstein> kaje: safe? i would say, if you are comfortable doing a custom installation, you should be comfortable manipluation pacakges.. i would try removing if i were comfortable putting it back
[16:05] <pqangel> i'm building an streaming server but i'm not sure how many users can my server stand.. anyone could help me out?
[16:05] <holstein> pqangel: i would say, the network could be the bottleneck.. give more details, and consider a server or networking channels.. thanks
[16:06] <cortexman> i'm having trouble installing VMWare Tools on Ubuntu Raring. it can't find the kernel headers even when they are definitely installed
[16:06] <kaje> That askubuntu solution fixed it.
[16:06] <holstein> tgunr: i wouldnt do anything other than what i know works.. which is in that guide i linked.. no need to "restore".. just make the stick as the guide suggests
[16:07] <hadifarnoud> does anyone know why Linode recommend private IP to be set for a VPS? https://library.linode.com/networking/configuring-static-ip-interfaces
[16:07] <hadifarnoud> I mean in what scenario I'll use a private IP?
[16:07] <holstein> hadifarnoud: i would ask linode support
[16:08] <hadifarnoud> holstein: It was quicker to ask here. it's a general question.
[16:08] <tgunr> all of the guides presume your going to install onto the same kind of machine, i didn;t see anything about making install media on mac for installation on windows for example. I presume if the usb stick looks like an ISO it will work
[16:08] <holstein> hadifarnoud: maybe you can have ssh running on the private, and accessible from only the private.. /join the #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[16:09] <holstein> tgunr: do you have an intel mac? do you have the non ppc iso?
[16:09] <tgunr> it's intel mac running 10.6
[16:10] <holstein> tgunr: then, you get the target (normal, non ppc) iso, and make the stick for the target (normal, non ppc) system
[16:10] <holstein> tgunr: they *are* the same kind of machine
[16:11] <tgunr> yeah, thanks, just wanted to confirm to save a 2 hour trip
[16:11] <VictorCL2> does anyone have experience with tideSDK on ubuntu?
[16:12] <publicaffairs> anyone have experience with x11vnc, mine crashes every time i disconnect
[16:12] <holstein> tgunr: take a CD.. burn a CD.. make several sticks.. take the isos and equipment with you to make different scenarios .. i have an app for my android phone that allows me to boot different isos from it via USB
[16:12] <holstein> !vnc | publicaffairs
[16:12] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: that only makes sense if you have more than one Linode machine, on the same network segment
[16:13] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: you can safely ignore that
[16:13] <hadifarnoud> gordonjcp: ah! got it.
[16:13] <publicaffairs> holstein: that doesn't say anything about my issue
[16:13] <tgunr> the target doesn't have a CD, only USB is possible, he has only one USB stick, or I would have :)
[16:13] <Pici> hadifarnoud: btw, linode's support channel on OFTC is great :)
[16:14] <shah0516> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. My question is, when I connect to my WiFi router from ubuntu, all other devices are unable to connect to the same WiFi. However, when I boot into Windows 7,(in same laptop) other devices are able to connect WiFi. Can anyone please let me know how to fix this? Thanks for your time :)
[16:14] <holstein> publicaffairs: share details about your "issue", and maybe one of the voluntees can help
[16:14] <publicaffairs> i connect, the server closes
[16:14] <hadifarnoud> Pici: what is OFTC?
[16:14] <Pici> hadifarnoud: irc.oftc.net another irc network
[16:15] <publicaffairs> says 'viewer exited' which is not very telling
[16:15] <holstein> publicaffairs: are you up to date with upgrades? server and client side? what is the server? what is the client? are other servers or clients presenting the same "issue" ?
[16:15] <publicaffairs> x11vnc, os x screen sharing, i don't have other clients and servers
[16:16] <VictorCL2> when I read : install to ~/.tidesdk folder
[16:16] <VictorCL2> do I have to create a folder name d   .tidesdk ??
[16:16] <VictorCL2> or just tidesdk ?
[16:16] <holstein> publicaffairs: could be the OSX server causing the issue, correct? i would try another viewer.. another server
[16:16] <publicaffairs> os x client
[16:16] <Pici> VictorCL2: include the dot.
[16:16] <publicaffairs> i never had this issue before
[16:17] <holstein> publicaffairs: what happened before the issue started happening? a system upgrade?
[16:17] <d4rkn30> is there a 32bit 13.04 server iso anywhere ? or is it just a 64 bit release?
[16:17] <publicaffairs> haven't connected in a while
[16:19] <holstein> publicaffairs: i would try other software.. even the proprietary teamviewer.. other than that, it will be a process of troubleshooting and checking logs
[16:19] <publicaffairs> can team viewer be installed without being logged into the DM?
[16:19] <publicaffairs> i didn't think it could =/
[16:19] <holstein> publicaffairs: i dont understand the question
[16:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:20] <subz3r0> netsplit yooohoohohohoho :D
[16:20] <mbnoimi> what's best package manger I can use it remotely?
[16:20] <publicaffairs> i was under the impression that team viewer couldn't be installed/ran through terminal
[16:20] <anoop> Windows 8 + Ubuntu 12.04 problem?
[16:20] <holstein> mbnoimi: "best" is a matter of opinion ... what are you trying to do?
[16:20] <holstein> anoop: is that a question?
[16:21] <mbnoimi> holstein: I use ssh usually but I want to use GUI package manager remotely
[16:21] <holstein> publicaffairs: you dont need to forward a desktop to connect to a terminal.. you can use ssh from/to linux/osx
[16:22] <anoop> holstein: No grub shown after installing ubuntu. Directly booting into Windows?
[16:22] <goblin> has anyone an idea where I might find more answers to my .desktop-file problem?
[16:22] <SixtyFold> anyone know how to make a color scheme file to use in something like gedit for example?
[16:22] <holstein> mbnoimi: depends on how you want to access that GUI pacakge manager.. aptitude has a curses GUI.. forwarding x or vnc will let you access anything.. what are you trying to do?
[16:22] <holstein> !grub | anoop
[16:23] <holstein> anoop: ^^ check the part about recovering ... or using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:23] <anoop> holstein: I need to know whether grub is compatible with Windows 8( UEFI)?
[16:23] <mbnoimi> holstein: I want to use synaptic or any GUI alternative for package management remotely
[16:24] <holstein> !uefi | anoop
[16:24] <mbnoimi> holstein: I tried apt-dater but it's tet mode
[16:24] <mbnoimi> holstein: I tried apt-dater but it's text mode
[16:24] <shah0516> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. My question is, when I connect to my WiFi router from ubuntu, all other devices are unable to connect to the same WiFi. However, when I boot into Windows 7,(in same laptop) other devices are able to connect WiFi. Can anyone please let me know how to fix this? Thanks for your time :)
[16:24] <holstein> mbnoimi: as i said, *anything* can be use via VNC connection or forwarding X.. such as synaptic.. or the curses GUI in the terminal via ssh.. depends on what you want to do, really
[16:25] <anoop> holstein: Can I use a live usb containing ubuntu for reinstalling the grub?
[16:25] <holstein> shah0516: i would isolate that for certain.. run some tests.. i would disable encryption, try a different access point.. try different drivers.. etc
[16:25] <mbnoimi> holstein: I told you I want to use synaptic remotely
[16:25] <holstein> anoop: the links i gave give explanations on how that is donw
[16:26] <d4rkn30> is 13.04 - Server 64 bit release only?
[16:26] <holstein> mbnoimi: then, you can forward X over ssh, or vnc connection to the desktop.. among other solututions im sure..
[16:26] <Pici> d4rkn30: no.
[16:26] <DJones> d4rkn30: No, you get the option to choose on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[16:26] <mbnoimi> holstein: how can I use forward x?
[16:26] <Pici> d4rkn30: You can download it from http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ if for some reason Ubuntu.com is only showing you the 64 bit release
[16:27] <d4rkn30> Pici, Thanks and it was only showing 64
[16:27] <holstein> mbnoimi: i would just use apt-get in the terminal.. or aptitude.. that is more appropriate, though, not GUI..
[16:28] <holstein> d4rkn30: you can see the server x86 version here http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[16:28] <mbnoimi> holstein: but both of them can't manage packages.... I want real alternative to synaptic
[16:28] <shah0516> thanks holstein I will try disabling encryption
[16:29] <holstein> mbnoimi: both of those *do* and *are* package mangers.. though, you may not prefer them..
[16:31] <Guest84973> ciao
[16:32] <cortexman> can I tell the Raring desktop installer to use a proxy?
[16:33] <holstein> cortexman: i would just install, and not do any networking at that point.. do the proxy after the install
[16:33] <cortexman> it tries to download files etc during installation
[16:33] <cortexman> and I have been unable to do things like install vmware tools after. this is the only thing I can think of
[16:33] <cortexman> even if you tell it not to download updates, it tries to download other files.
[16:34] <holstein> cortexman: dont get online from the installation
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[16:34] <cortexman> holstein, what do you mean?
[16:34] <anoop> holstein: The link you gave explains the method to reinstall the grub. I need to know whether reinstalling grub will be successful in the case of Win 8?
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[16:34] <FloodBot1> _npiv_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <hellrazor> hello there
[16:36] <hellrazor> how can i see which packages are installed on my current system? i want to have the exact same packages installed on my other machine here
[16:37] <hellrazor> with ppa i use and so on
[16:37] <hellrazor> is there a way do this with apt-get?
[16:38] <holstein> hellrazor: i would use synaptic.. there is a command in the menu do generate scripts etc
[16:39] <hellrazor> i wanna do it on the console
[16:39] <hellrazor> i generally do not use synaptic
[16:39] <holstein> anoop: the link i gave explains it in detail.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:39] <hellrazor> apt-get is to powerfull
[16:40] <holstein> hellrazor: then, i would just search. i too find apt-get powerful, but not very easily intuitive for such tasks. so, when i wanted what you are wanting, i used the menu item in synaptic.. it took less than a minute.. otherwise, im sure you can search for apt commands for something similar
[16:41] <motaka2> hello I have forgotten my username but I rember my password in ubuntu. what should I do ?
[16:42] <holstein> motaka2: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howtorecover-your-username-and-passwordfix-grub-21-error-in-ubuntu.html
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> !password
[16:42] <holstein> motaka2: i might even just look at the disk from a live CD
[16:43] <gazarsgo> where do core dumps go? i tried to enable them in /etc/security/limits.conf with `* soft core 0` but i'm not getting a core dump in my CWD
[16:43] <gazarsgo> i'm on precise fwiw
[16:43] <djono> hello is there a file transfer program out there? every time i transfer a file to say usb drive. the status goes fast and says 100 but when inserted into another medium the file is corrupted and incomplete
[16:44] <gazarsgo> oops i need non zero don't i ...
[16:44] <gazarsgo> woohoo that did it
[16:44] <holstein> djono: grsync is easy-ish to use.. though, if the drive is broken, software wont "fix" it
[16:44] <usr13> djono: Are you un-mounting before removing the device?
[16:45] <djono> usr13 yes I am
[16:45] <usr13> djono: What tool are you using now to transfer files?  (What file manager?)
[16:46] <djono> the one thats in ubuntu lts
[16:46] <usr13> djono: Are you using Unity?
[16:46] <djono> yes.
[16:46] <usr13> djono: Ok, I don't think it is a problem with the file manager.
[16:46] <oblio> i have a new install of raring and would prefer to use alsa instead of pulse, i've removed pulse but i cant get audio output from alsa despite it apparently detecting my sound card
[16:47] <usr13> oblio: alsamixer
[16:47] <djono> its a new system. ive had this problem with every system ive had that is ubuntu based
[16:47] <shh-----> I want to run multiple instances of Skype like I do on Windows. Is this possible?
[16:47] <oblio> usr13: yes, that's installed, volumes are up
[16:47] <holstein> oblio: consider just installing lubuntu, and adding whatever desktop you want, if not LXDE.. lubuntu is pluse only
[16:47] <shh-----> typing Skype in terminal just opens the same window again
[16:48] <oblio> holstein: im confused - lubuntu is pulse only
[16:48] <Slart> shh-----: check if there is a switch to make it start a new instance..
[16:48] <oblio> but i specifically don't want pulse
[16:48] <holstein> oblio: sorry.. alsa only.. lubuntu is alsa only
[16:48] <usr13> djono: You are using Nautilus. Right?
[16:48] <shh-----> anyone know the command to do that
[16:48] <djono> yes
[16:48] <shh-----> the switch
[16:48] <holstein> shh-----: i found this quickly in search.. have you read it? http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/08/run-multiple-instances-of-skype-40.html
[16:48] <djono> usr13 yes
[16:48] <oblio> install an entirely different distribution to fix a sound problem?
[16:49] <shh-----> thanks holstein
[16:49] <usr13> djono: You could install thunar and try it, but I doubt that the file manager is the problem.  You can see though....
[16:49] <oblio> holstein: does ubuntu do dirty things to my sound configuration?
[16:49] <holstein> oblio: you havent mentioned a problem.. you stated a preference that lubuntu matches more closely.. its just a suggestion..
[16:49] <zephyr28> If I have a 64-bit processor, should I ALWAYS install the 64-bit version?  Isn't 32-bit more stable?
[16:49] <oblio> holstein: oh, well - i have mentioned a problem. alsamixer has volumes up, ive tested using just mplayer to play a wav, it detects alsa and i get no sound output.
[16:50] <oblio> holstein: this was previously running wheezy but i decided to attempt ubuntu, sound was working fine.
[16:50] <holstein> oblio: do you have pavucontol installed?
[16:50] <oblio> no
[16:50] <usr13> !info thunar | djono
[16:50] <usr13> !thunar | djono
[16:50] <holstein> oblio: try installing that, and get the application running the audio.. there is some "routing" options in pavucontrol
[16:51] <usr13> djono: See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[16:51] <djono> i have the same problem in ubuntu with pcman
[16:51] <holstein> oblio: otherwise, you should search for how to purge pulse.. i havent done it since before 10.04
[16:51] <usr13> djono: Try thunar
[16:51] <oblio> ok
[16:51] <holstein> djono: how did grsync work?
[16:51] <oblio> holstein: yeah thanks for asking, i realized that was a pulse package and then noticed there were a few lingering pulse packages
[16:51] <oblio> dpkg -P'ing them now
[16:51] <usr13> djono: But, again, I think you are barking up the wrong tree.
[16:52] <djono> holstein trying it now
[16:58] <Vec_> How do i delete partitions during ubuntu server install?
[16:58] <tking> form data are not getting to my email how do i fix this in ubuntu files are uploaded in /var/www/
[16:59] <usr13> Vec_: There is a partitioning tool, gparted, and using it is part of the process.
[17:00] <usr13> Vec_: But if you are passed that point, you should wait untill after the install is finished.
[17:01] <smallfoot-> Please put Firefox 22 in Ubuntu!
[17:01] <usr13> Vec_: If you have gone on passed the partitioning phase of the process and the actual software install process is underway, do not attempt to alter partitions at this time.
[17:01] <usr13> smallfoot-: Why?
[17:02] <bodom> aa
[17:03] <usr13> smallfoot-: Are you using it now?  Is there something radically different, cool, or advantageous about it?
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> smallfoot-, Takes about a day or two for the releases to reach ubuntu.
[17:04] <usr13> smallfoot-: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[17:05] <Vec_> usr13: Gotcha. ended up configuring them and installing as it were
[17:05] <smallfoot-> usr13, it has flexbox, which i need for developmenent
[17:05] <smallfoot-> wilee-nilee, windows get it same day ,they dun have to wait
[17:06] <usr13> smallfoot-: Ok.  Well, you have it isnstalled.  Right?
[17:06] <macwolf74> that's because windows don't have distributed repositories
[17:06] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: you can use the firefox "official packages"
[17:06] <macwolf74> if you want you can download it from the website if you need it badly
[17:06] <smallfoot-> usr13, only from nightly
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> smallfoot-, Windows does not provide it FF does, ubuntu modifies it for the OS.
[17:06] <macwolf74> just extract the tarball and run firefox
[17:06] <smallfoot-> wilee-nilee, well maybe ubuntu should stop modify it
[17:07] <macwolf74> the modifications integrates stuff like web apps in firefox
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> !ot | smallfoot-
[17:07] <usr13> macwolf74: I think he already has it.
[17:07] <smallfoot-> fuck web apps and unity integration and that shit
[17:07] <Vec_> usr13: The installer asks me if i want to install stuff, like OpenSSH, LAMP, Samba, Print server ect. I want this server to share files and a printer. Is there any reason for me to install "Print server" as i understand i can use SAMBA for printer sharing aswell
[17:07] <usr13> !language | smallfoot-
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> FF has a addon that can turn of the ubuntu modification.
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> off
[17:07]  * harshadura found a nice demo on Git branching: http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/
[17:08] <usr13> Vec_: Yes, install the Print server
[17:08] <Vec_> usr13: wont that be redundant with sambas printsharing thingie?
[17:08] <usr13> Vec_: no
[17:08] <Vec_> usr13: ok, thanks
[17:08] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: in Windows you probably have to download the firefox installer from the firefox website, instead of just installing it from the Windows repositories?
[17:09] <Guest36302> .
[17:09] <usr13> !cups | Vec_
[17:09] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: at least, if you want the latest and greatest
[17:09] <gordonjcp> smallfoot-: well, it's the same with Ubuntu; just download the latest firefox from mozilla and install that, and don't expect much support with it ;-)
[17:10]  * wilee-nilee thinks smallfoot-=small frontal lobes
[17:12] <ptcek> Do anyone know how to redirect stdout after pipe? (i.e. make this work: top -b | grep systemd > /tmp/stats.log)
[17:17] <trism> ptcek: that should work fine, are you sure there is any grep output?
[17:17] <raulsh_> there used to be some utility which allowed one to use ftp / telnet / ssh , i think it was under 'places'. what option do i have in ubuntu 12. 04?
[17:17] <usr13> ptcek: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[17:18] <trism> raulsh_: open up nautilus/the file browser and go to File/Conect to Server
[17:19] <ptcek> trism: grep is fine and yields 4 rows every time
[17:20] <usr13> ptcek: if  top -b | grep systemd  does indeed yield an output, it should be written to  /tmp/stats.log  (your syntax is correct)
[17:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:22] <usr13> ptcek: It may take some time, so...
[17:22] <ptcek> usr13: however, it is not working in bash, nor zsh
[17:23] <usr13> top -b may not be the way you want to do it.
[17:23] <trism> ptcek: yeah seems like there must be some buffering somewhere, I don't get any output through the redirect until enough lines build up
[17:24] <usr13> ... because it may never stop outputing same lines...
[17:24] <ptcek> usr13: this is what I am trying to achieve... processing continuously from pipe and redirecting...
[17:24] <trism> ptcek: if I instead do: top -b | grep username > /tmp/stats.log; I get output immediately, but for something else it takes a bit
[17:25] <SolarisB1y> top in other mode than batch and redirection is likely not going to work properly
[17:26] <usr13> ptcek: But it is not going to contiunously write, it will only do it when done, (I think).
[17:27] <djono> hey holstein thanks for the grsync rec
[17:27] <luke_> hi, i have an acer aspire v3 running ubuntu 12.04. does anyone know how to change the default brightness settings for the screen, currently at startup the screen will be at 0 brightness as in a black screen, i have to use FN keys to get brightness up in order to see anything. ive checked the internet but only seem to find answers for getting the FN keys working however they already work.
[17:27] <luke_> sorry for the essay as well
[17:27] <contrapunctus> !split
[17:28] <ptcek> trism: I can see know it somehow buffers the output. Do you know how to change the buffer size?
[17:28] <shah0516> holstien: as suggested, I tried different approaches. 1) Enabled Wireless isolation 2) tried different encryption techniques 3) disabled encryption. using the third approach, I could connect to my WiFi from both laptop and mobile phone. However, I have noticed that I'm unable to access internet from both devices at a time. Any pointers please?
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> luke_, Startup is exactly where in the process, and does it resolve itself if you wait?
[17:29] <contrapunctus> !netsplit
[17:29] <msh210> Hi, all. I followed these directions - http://askubuntu.com/a/137946 - for moving my mysql data to new location, and then tried "sudo start mysql" and "sudo service mysql start" and got "start: Job failed to start". (Raring.) Any idea what might be going on, please?
[17:29] <usr13> ptcek: You might try: top -b | grep system &> file.txt
[17:30] <jrib> msh210: umm, was it starting before?
[17:30] <luke_> ok so i get the ubuntu purple background loading screen, (theres no promp to login as i havent set this)  then when it should jump to desktop the brightness drops.
[17:30] <prometheus199> hey guys, anyone able to help me out with an installation question right quick?
[17:30] <shah0516> For others i'm posting my query again,  [Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. My question is, when I connect to my WiFi router from ubuntu, all other devices are unable to connect to the same WiFi. However, when I boot into Windows 7,(in same laptop) other devices are able to connect WiFi. Can anyone please let me know how to fix this? Thanks for your time :)]
[17:30] <msh210> jrib yes.
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> luke_, So at the desktop you can see it but the brightness is at the lowest?
[17:31] <genii> luke_: Might try adding into /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"       and then sudo update-grub
[17:31] <jrib> msh210: did you get any output from your commands other than what you pasted here?
[17:31] <jrib> msh210: I mean any commands, not just the commands to start mysql
[17:31] <luke_> i will try this genii,
[17:31] <Ontological>  I have added "xterm*savelines: 10240" to my ~/.Xresources (which is a symbolic
[17:31] <Ontological>                      link of ~/.Xdefaults"  and ran $(xrdb .Xresources), but my scrollback buffer
[17:32] <trism> ptcek: in expect-dev there is a program unbuffer...this seems to get me faster output: top -b | unbuffer -p grep pattern > /tmp/stats.log;
[17:32] <msh210> jirb: $ restart mysql
[17:32] <msh210> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.13" (uid=1001 pid=5083 comm="restart mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[17:32] <luke_> wilee-nilee - it should display desktop but brightness is at lowest, which on this laptop is a black screen with brightness at lowest
[17:32] <prometheus199> basically, ubuntu wont stay installed to my HDD, so everytime I restart I have to boot from my USB, and right now I can't install anything to it. I've tried installing ubuntu, but it wont work :(
[17:32] <Ontological> Sorry about that.  Copy broke badly:
[17:32] <Ontological>  I have added "xterm*savelines: 10240" to my ~/.Xresources (which is a symbolic link of ~/.Xdefaults"  and ran $(xrdb .Xresources), but my scrollback buffer is still very tiny.  Any suggestions?
[17:32] <SolarisBoy> wow trism nice one..
[17:32]  * SolarisBoy looking for unbuffer
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> luke_, Cool, thanks for the more detailed info, it is helpful.
[17:34] <msh210> jrib: $ restart mysql --> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.13" (uid=1001 pid=5083 comm="restart mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init") <-- and almost the same (different pid & sender) for 'start mysql'
[17:34] <subz3r0> genii: that does not work. Ubuntu will change the brightness to full after reboot
[17:34] <jrib> msh210: if there was no output from your commands that you used to move the location of the db, then pastebin your /etc/mysql/my.cnf and /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld
[17:34] <subz3r0> luke_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152356/why-does-ubuntu-reset-brightness-settings-at-the-loading-screen
[17:34] <ptcek> trism: exactly what I was looking for! Thank you very much!
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Sounds like grub s being put on the usb's mbr not the computers. Has the computer ever had W8, I'm ruling out a uefi setup
[17:35] <luke_> genii - will restart and see if this works
[17:35] <luke_> subx3r0 - will try this one, thanks
[17:35] <genii> luke_: Might want to visit the link by subz3r0 as well
[17:35] <msh210> jrib the command to move the db was cp, so there was no output. I editd those 2 fils appropriately (I think). Will pastebin; stand by please.
[17:36] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee:  no, it had windows 7.
[17:36] <luke_> i will restart first then do subz3r0 soltion
[17:36] <subz3r0> im pretty sure it wont work ;)
[17:36] <jrib> msh210: throw in the .conf file for mysql in /etc/init/... that will be our next step if nothing obvious comes up from your pastebin
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, are you on the live cd right now or in the ubuntu install?
[17:37] <subz3r0> you can edit grub if there are some issues about the backlight. But if its working correctly ubuntu will change the backlight to maximum after every reboot
[17:37] <prometheus199> but when i was trying to reinstall windows, it said it couldn't recognize my HDD because both of the partitions were formatted as NTFS or some shit
[17:37] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee, I'm live booted from usb atm
[17:37] <jrib> msh210: also look for interesting things in /var/log/mysql (especially mysql.err) and maybe /var/log/syslog
[17:37] <prometheus199> installing to system atm
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, run sudo fdisk-l and pastebin the text, and please don't swear. ;)
[17:38] <luke_> genii - your help appreciated, brightness issue now fixed thanks
[17:38] <Sebo> Hi, Can you tell me which do I need to have installed to let sFTP transfers for users who already have ssh access to the /bin/bash shell.
[17:38] <jrib> msh210: erm, actually there is both /var/log/mysql/error.log and /var/log/mysql.err that may be worth looking at
[17:38] <prometheus199> oh, sorry.
[17:38] <daftykins> Sebo: if they can SSH, they can SCP/SFTP.
[17:38] <prometheus199> and wilee-nilee I honestly (as a windows guy trying to get into this) have no idea how to run that
[17:38] <prometheus199> lol
[17:38] <genii> luke_: You're welcome
[17:38] <subz3r0> luke_: but that cant be. or i understand you wrong :) because ubuntu will set the brightness to maximum after reboot ;)
[17:38] <subz3r0> see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/151651/brightness-is-reset-to-maximum-on-every-restart
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Are you familiar with the limitations of partition amount on a single HD?
[17:39] <Sebo> daftykins: ...it seems at least one can't ;]
[17:39] <prometheus199> nop
[17:39] <subz3r0> luke_: but glat to hear that you fixed your problem
[17:39] <subz3r0> glad
[17:39] <daftykins> Sebo: using what client? sounds like user error
[17:40] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee, no I am not
[17:40] <dieke> hi
[17:40] <luke_> subz3r0 - for some reason mine was being reset to minimum after restart which was rather anoying, its now resetting to max which is fine
[17:40] <reisio> dieke: bye
[17:40] <msh210> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799176/
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Ah, I suspect that is your problem, you can only have 4 primary partitions on a single HD or 3 primaries and a extended, which can have many logical type partitions. In order to help you we need to see what is there, the caommand in a terminal sudo fdisk -l will tel us.
[17:41] <subz3r0> luke_: sorry, so i understand you wrong. Thought you just dont want to have it on maximum after reboot. I think its really annoying that ubuntu does not save the actual state and set it back to that state after reboot
[17:41] <Sebo> daftykins: File Manager v1.15.10 @ Android JB
[17:41] <gxx> Keep trying to make a live usb, and just got some new usb sticks, and everytime I mount it/format it, it keeps formating the volume as sdc1 and not sdc, and unetbootin wont use sdc 1, only sdc, but the drive/volume wont mount as that
[17:41] <subz3r0> "understood".... damn gettin late here and my english gets.................... :D
[17:42] <daftykins> Sebo: confirm their account with a known working client like WinSCP then maybe contact that developer, obviously the fault is more than likely with the clients' use of the program or the program itself
[17:42] <gxx> don't really understand why it wont work
[17:42] <prometheus199> well i only have two primary partitions, but I don't know where/how to run that
[17:42] <gordonjcp> gxx: which OS are you currently on, and what are you trying to put on the USB stick?
[17:42] <gxx> backtrack5
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, ctrl-alt-t brings up the terminal.
[17:43] <subz3r0> !backtrack > gxx
[17:43] <gxx> is what I'm putting it on, and ubuntu is the system
[17:43] <gxx> that i'm current on
[17:43] <subz3r0> !backtrack | gxx
[17:43] <msh210> jrib /etc/init/mysql.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799188/
[17:43] <gordonjcp> gxx: if it's Ubuntu-based then the chances are it's a hybrid image so you can just unmount the USB stick and use dd to put the image on directly
[17:43] <Sebo> daftykins: ...I've got only Ubuntus or Androids here ... so I can not try WinSCP... anyway I thought sFTP != SCP ;]
[17:44] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee ^ and I finished the installation (for the second time)... not going to restart until I get your advice :p last time I installed and restarted it started @ the HP screen then just went blue with a "Not Support"
[17:44] <aRieL_UStudio> alguien me puede recomendar algun mircscript o algo asi ?
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, You probably have more than two, in windows it does not show the boot partition.
[17:44] <gxx> I have a feeling its these pny usb sticks causing the problems, never had this problem with me sony & sandisk usb sticks
[17:45] <Sebo> daftykins: and standard shell `scp ` from ubuntu to that ubuntu serwer works fine :)
[17:45] <daftykins> Sebo: it's a client that lets you use either protocol. it was just an example, i'm sure you can test it whichever way is more convenient for you.
[17:45] <gxx> guess its time to learn dd then to get the image loaded on it
[17:45] <DJones> !es | aRieL_UStudio
[17:45] <daftykins> Sebo: sounds like your user/client needs some education then
[17:45] <msh210> jrid last few lines in /var/lg/syslog ar:
[17:45] <msh210> Jun 25 13:23:05 HCG-Linux-01 kernel: [ 7174.879410] type=1400 audit(1372180985.099:53): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=5477 comm="apparmor_parser"
[17:45] <msh210> Jun 25 13:23:06 HCG-Linux-01 kernel: [ 7176.505663] type=1400 audit(1372180986.731:54): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid" pid=5481 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=106 ouid=106
[17:45] <FloodBot1> msh210: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would reboot if it does not show a grub menu boot the live session, and we need to see the HD info, so we can get orientated as to what is actually on the HD.
[17:47] <gxx> nevermind, I just used ubuntu's Startup Disk Creator, and it decided to work
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, If you can get to the installed ubuntu from the usb with a grub menu do that this cam be fixed from the installed ubuntu. This may seem confusing I know.
[17:48] <ufoman> hi
[17:48] <jrib> msh210: ah you may need to do something for apparmor profiles to be reread?  not sure.
[17:48] <prometheus199> j[10:46] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would reboot if it does not show a grub menu boot the live session, and we need to see the HD info, so we can get orientated as to what is actually on the HD.
[17:49] <ufoman> on my laptop (lenovo Y500), backlight can be controllled only thru xrandr, but ubuntu only uses /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
[17:49] <prometheus199> hm, hold on ima scroll up and do that command earlier
[17:49] <ufoman> how can I reconfigure ubuntu backlight hotkeys to issue commands to xrandr?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Cool, this is an unusaul place to run it but lets see what it sats.
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> says
[17:50] <prometheus199> why is it an unusual placE?
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, you have just installed, I assume in tis state t will read that info, ubuntu is set to reboot to the install is all.
[17:51] <msh210> jrib also http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799207/ if it helps
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, We can't necessarily fix it from this state a reboot or live sesson again is needed.
[17:51] <prometheus199> hm
[17:51] <prometheus199> alright, i'll restart and see what happens. be back in ~10
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Cool.
[17:52] <jrib> msh210: I guess line 41 is significant
[17:52] <jrib> msh210: you sure everything was copied ok?  And it's mounted correctly?
[17:53] <gxx> does ubuntu support usb 3.0 out of the box?
[17:53] <skorasaurus3> hi, I am transferring files over from my internal SATA 5400rpm hd to my usb2.0 7200RPM external drive, both are formatted ext3 but I'm receiving very slow speeds, about 300mb/hour.
[17:53] <msh210> jrib, I guessed as much myself  :-)  but don't know what to do about it. Yes, the disk is mounted and.. I didn't check everything was copied, by cp didn't complain.
[17:53] <msh210> s/by/but/
[17:53] <skorasaurus3> both hard drives are less than 70% full.
[17:54] <jaya> Hello
[17:54] <skorasaurus3> the specific command that i'm using is  cp -n -r -p -v ~/Pictures /path/to/my/external/subfolder
[17:54] <gxx> skorasaurus3, I believe its just usb 2.0 being slow?
[17:54] <skorasaurus3> gxx: that seems quite abnormally slwo though.
[17:54] <gxx> cut that, nevermind
[17:55] <babinlonston> hi all , how can i chat from pidgin to this freenode , how to setup the pidgin pls help
[17:55] <gxx> I'm getting about 3GB in about 1.5hours
[17:55] <gxx> with usb sticks
[17:55] <skorasaurus3> yeah, usually it's not that slow.
[17:55] <gxx> yea, I really wish everything was usb 3.0 by now
[17:56] <jrib> msh210: one sec (juggling a few things here and don't know enough about mysql to help without some research)
[17:56] <skorasaurus3> specifically I've moved about 10gb in 25 hours.
[17:57] <skorasaurus3> gxx: i wish it too.
[17:57] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee -- yeah, didn't work lol
[17:57] <gxx> better to just have a storage server w/ GB switches/cards
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Have you tried a copy and paste to see if the speed is different?
[17:57] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: in nautilus ? will do.
[17:58] <babinlonston>  hi all , how can i chat from pidgin to this freenode , how to setup the pidgin pls help
[17:58] <prometheus199> k wilee-nilee, how do i do the sudo fdisk-l?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, So in the ubuntu live session hit the windows key and type gparted, the prtsc key wll take a screen shot and put it in pictures or home imagebin that image and post it
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | prometheus199
[17:59] <skorasaurus3> weird, says my destination is read-only :/
[17:59] <msh210> jrib - now that (with your help, thanks!) I got to that error line, I'm asking in #mysql -- thanks again
[17:59] <gxx> take a gun and shoot it a few times
[17:59] <gxx> thats what I did with my last router that wouldn't play nice
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I want to see a picture of gparted looking at thew hd.
[18:00] <gordonjcp> gxx: that's not very constructive
[18:00] <prometheus199> uploadin now
[18:00] <gxx> however once I pulled out my 7mm rem mag, the router went byebye :P
[18:00] <skorasaurus3> hmm, looking at dmesg, got a usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 from the device.
[18:00] <prometheus199> http://i.imgur.com/665xX83.jpg
[18:00] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee:  ^
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> thanks
[18:01] <raducu7890> anybody on xda?
[18:01] <Sebo> daftykins: You are wrong saying that 'when the user can SSH then SFTP is enabled as well' I've just checked this 'Android File Manager' client with another server (Ubuntu Precise LTS - same as the previous one) and now it connects.
[18:01] <gxx> gordonjcp, its how we do it in the USA, just shoot it :P
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Were you trying to dualboot windows?
[18:01] <daftykins> Sebo: i fully disagree with your claim, being based off one example
[18:02] <prometheus199> nope, was trying to replace windows with linux
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Cool, it is gone just making sure. Do you want ubuntu on the whole HD?
[18:03] <prometheus199> yeah
[18:03] <Sebo> daftykins: at least there exists such example... but now I still do not know which is wrong... cause all the client settings was the same except the given server ip address.
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199,  Cool so in gparted right click sda7 and then unmount.
[18:03] <daftykins> Sebo: you're on your own then ^_^
[18:04] <coolack> hello all
[18:04] <coolack> I'm having trouble booting fedora 18 with ubuntu bootloader
[18:05] <coolack> I added them the bootmenu,   but it doesn't load up with the new kernel
[18:05] <coolack> only the old one
[18:05] <ikonia> coolack: then you've setup the boot option wrong
[18:05] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee, when i right click it it doesn't give me the option to unmount
[18:05] <coolack> ikonia do i need to edit it?
[18:05] <ikonia> coolack: if it's wrong....yes
[18:06] <prometheus199> only available options are swapoff, manage flags, & information
[18:06] <coolack> ikonia:  hmm I'm not sure what to put.   should i ask in fedora channel?
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Sorry swap off is what you want.
[18:07] <prometheus199> & how what will that do? lol
[18:07] <ikonia> coolack: first question, is the grub install you are using from ubuntu or fedora
[18:07] <coolack> its the ubuntu one
[18:07] <ikonia> coolack: ok, next question, how did you add Fedora's option to it
[18:07] <coolack> ikonia:  it worked till i updated the kernel in fedora.  I can still lload old one but now new one
[18:07] <prometheus199> did it, nothing looks different
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, If you look at gparted you see key next to sda7 the swap and sda4 the extended, thw swap off will remove those keys so we can work with the HD.
[18:08] <coolack> ikonia: from ubuntu.  i mounted drives and did sudo update-grub
[18:08] <coolack> ikonia: i made sure they are not lvm partitions
[18:08] <prometheus199> yeah.. what's the next step?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Are the keys gone now?
[18:08] <prometheus199> by the way, thank you for the help
[18:08] <prometheus199> yeah
[18:08] <ikonia> coolack: yes, this is a problem with grub2 and dual boot, the config files are held in /etc/grub on ubuntu - so if Fedora makes an update there is no way for Fedora to update grub, as it can't modify /etc in the ubuntu install
[18:08] <ikonia> coolack: you'll need to update it manually, which is a poor design.
[18:08] <prometheus199> still the red ! by sda5 though
[18:08] <Snype> Myrtti, whatcha smoking?
[18:09] <coolack> ikonia: hmm I'm not sure how to do that
[18:09] <ikonia> coolack: ok, the settings are in /etc/grub - look at them, find the fedora entry and you'll see the old kernel settings, update them and then run update-grub
[18:09] <coolack> ikonia: do you mean editing the text from the ubuntu grub menu?
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, No problem I think we are best here to just delate all the partitions and let ubuntu auto install, so delete all partitions leaving the sda4 as the last one. Right clicks on each wll have a delete option.
[18:09] <coolack> ikonia: ok lemme try that tks
[18:10] <prometheus199> there's no sda4
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, YOU have to click the grenn check at the top of gparted to run the delete after you see the process showng in the bottom of gparted.
[18:10] <iskywalker> Hi!
[18:10] <iskywalker> I have a strange problem, after suspend to ram, the game civilization 4 is really slow, but before the supsend to ram it works fine, I have ubuntu 13.04, radeon and mesa
[18:11] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee - there's no sda4, but sda1 is my primary (430GB)
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, In your image sda4 is the extended partition, it is a container for all the partitions but sda1
[18:11] <Guest96692> Lo all,...does anyone have any info on bluetooth for 13.04, mainly trying to get a headset working for skype
[18:12] <prometheus199> ah, sda2 is the extended one
[18:12] <coolack> ikonia: I see a folder called grub.d     which file in there do I need to edit?
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Sorry my mistake I meant sda2, my bad
[18:12] <ikonia> coolack: look in there and find the one with the fedora entry in it
[18:12] <prometheus199> ah, so delete everything but sda1.
[18:12] <prometheus199> gotchya
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> Doh in the word of homer simpson. prometheus199
[18:13] <prometheus199> done
[18:13] <legion59> Lo all
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would delete all of them including sda1, unless you want to try to see if can be fixed. I would just remove all and run a autoinstall if it were me.
[18:14] <legion59> by chance ,...does anyone have any info on Bluetooth
[18:14] <coolack> ikonia:  hmm i'm opening all files in the text editor i don't see any mention of fedora?
[18:14] <prometheus199> autoinstall wilee-nilee ?
[18:14] <legion59> im lookin gfor info for using a bluetooth headset for skype
[18:14] <ikonia> coolack: it won't say "fedora" directly, it should have a reference to scan for additional operating systems
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, The install has a install gu with several choices the top one is just install to the HD.
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> gui
[18:15] <coolack> ikonia: I see files 00_header, 05_debian_theme, 10_linux, 10_linux_xen  10_memtest86+,  30_os-prober,  30_uefi-firmware, 40_custom, 41_custom
[18:15] <prometheus199> so the same installer (the one below the Dash Home on the left task bar) that wasn't working before
[18:15] <prometheus199> so... delete sda1 then run that again?
[18:16] <ikonia> coolack: ok, so 10_linux, 30_os-prober and the two custom ones would be the ones to check, are you using uefi ?
[18:16] <coolack> ikonia: i opened them with gedit and searched for fedora
[18:16] <coolack> ikonia: i'm new to linux lol
[18:16] <ikonia> coolack: did you just read what I said ?? it will not say "fedora"
[18:16] <ikonia> coolack: why is that funny "lol" ?
[18:16] <prometheus199> mk wilee-nilee; deleted them all - now which installation option should I choose?
[18:17] <coolack> ikonia:  so what am I lookin for?
[18:17] <ikonia> coolack: I've just told you ]
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, I would, make sure the HD shows no partitions in gparted. What may have happened here is that when booting from a usb, sometimes the usb and HD get reversed, and the grub bootloader gets put on the usb's mbr rather then the HD's
[18:17] <ikonia> coolack: why are you dual booting a complex system if you are new to linux ?
[18:17] <coolack> ikonia: i check those 2 files and look for what?
[18:17] <ikonia> coolack: why are you not using a linux system to grasp the basics ?
[18:17] <prometheus199> well now it's showing everything as unallocated
[18:18] <coolack> you know why pc gaming and linux is unpopular.  not because of any learning curves.  Since there are many programs and sports in real life with 1000x the learning curves.    but because of rotten arrogant communities noone wants to associate with.
[18:18] <prometheus199> installation time!
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, The install 4th or so screen is the install options, it has a install to HD, something like that, I do this without thinking generally as I always manually install as I have 4 OS on my HD
[18:19] <ikonia> coolack: I suggest you re-access where the problem is,
[18:19] <ikonia> coolack: you're running before walking, and unable to follow basic instructions due to the learning curve
[18:19] <ikonia> coolack: nothing rotten or arrogant about people advising you of that
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, If you don't get the ubuntu boot on the install, don't try any fix just boot the live session, and we will go from there. However I think you will be set.
[18:19] <coolack> ikonai: again i ask i'm looking in those two files for what exactly?
[18:19] <ubuntu2> vghycf
[18:20] <caius_> hi all. i
[18:20] <legion59> looks like time to reinstall!
[18:20] <ikonia> coolack: after you're little rant about how arrogant and rotten the community is I'm going to leave this problem alone now, and next time I suggest you consider if calling people and the community helping you names is a good way to get help.
[18:20] <coolack> ikonia:  i guess that means you don't know
[18:20] <coolack> ikonia: bye
[18:20] <ikonia> coolack: I know quite well, hence why I'm able to dual boot, but as you said "bye"
[18:21] <coolack> ikonia: it becomes a selfulfilling prophecy when you drive away newbies
[18:21] <legion59> Ikonia,..is there any info on bluetooth for skype or am i beeting a dead hourse on that subject
[18:21] <prometheus199> alright wilee-nilee starting it now
[18:21] <ikonia> coolack: no-one is driving you away, you've making a problem calling people names and telling me I don't know the answer, when clearly I do because I've just explained the design flaw, so "you" drive help away.
[18:21] <ikonia> legion59: skype has nothing to do with bluetooth, what's up ?
[18:22] <coolack>  ikonia: this is normal in the linux community.  You insulted me first and i give it right back
[18:22] <legion59> jsut trying to get bluetooth to connect to skype
[18:22] <legion59> skype dosent see the bluetooth
[18:22] <ikonia> coolack: no-one has insulted you, and if you feel you have been insulted the way to respond is not with insults.
[18:22] <coolack> ikonia:  its selfishness and the need to feel superior to other human beings
[18:22] <ikonia> coolack: and again, you've just taken another dig at the linux community helping you
[18:22] <coolack> ikonia: is why linux is unpopular lol
[18:22] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee: "ubi-partman failed with exit code 2"
[18:22] <ikonia> coolack: it's not "lol" hence why you are trying to use it,
[18:22] <coolack> ikonia: i can do without the insults
[18:22] <ikonia> legion59: ahh ok,
[18:22] <gxx> coolack, gtfo
[18:22] <prometheus199> does the USB need to stay in?
[18:23] <LittleJoe> ?
[18:23] <ikonia> coolack: no-one is instulting you
[18:23] <caius_> hi all. i have a small problem with my wifi. it connect and after 5 min disconnect again. it is nothing wrong with my router or the wireless connection because i have tried  the connection on 2 other pc`s  and it works fine. any idea of a solution?
[18:23] <coolack> ikonia: if u can't help me just say so
[18:23] <legion59> Coolack,..linux is for people with smarts,...Are you smart?
[18:23] <ikonia> gxx: that is not a welcome response
[18:23] <gxx> i'll insult him
[18:23] <gxx> lol
[18:23] <ikonia> gxx: no - you won't
[18:23] <Pici> legion59: thats not helping either.
[18:23] <ikonia> gxx: it's not funny, don't do it
[18:23] <legion59> sorry
[18:23] <legion59> :)
[18:23] <coolack> and this is supposeldy the nicest linux community?
[18:23] <holstein> !volunteers | coolack
[18:23] <ikonia> coolack: as I explained, I can help you as I understand the problem,
[18:23] <gxx> coolack, go back to windows
[18:23] <coolack> no wonder everyone would rather use cellphones lol
[18:23] <holstein> coolack: i would be glad to hear your issue
[18:23] <ikonia> legion59: lets look at you're issue a bit more
[18:23] <legion59> K
[18:23] <legion59> well
[18:24] <coolack> hello holstein
[18:24] <ikonia> legion59: I'd suggest initially seperating skype from the issue.
[18:24] <coolack> holstein: i'm trying to triple boot
[18:24] <legion59> so far ive got the bluetooth working and paired
[18:24] <ikonia> legion59: look at pairing bluetooth with your install first, then moving onto skype once you know that's working
[18:24] <legion59> it is seen in the OS
[18:24] <legion59> works good there
[18:24] <coolack> holstein:  everythign worked until i updated kernel in fedora 18.   it doens't load right now
[18:24] <ikonia> legion59: ok - so how have you verified it's paired and working
[18:24] <legion59> im just able to get the bluetooth headset to be seen in skype
[18:24] <legion59> Iko: yes
[18:24] <legion59> it works
[18:25] <ikonia> legion59: "how" have you verified it's paired and working in ubuntu
[18:25] <coolack> holstein: it shows up in the boot menu goes through the process...but gets stuck on a black screen.  the old kernel still loads
[18:25] <legion59> AND as a matter of fact
[18:25] <bxfbgfg> ewerw
[18:25] <legion59> ive ahd it working several time other under 13.04
[18:25] <legion59> but
[18:25] <holstein> coolack: the older fedora kernel?
[18:25] <legion59> i ended up reinstalling
[18:25] <legion59> just this morning
[18:25] <legion59> and
[18:25] <FloodBot1> legion59: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <coolack> holstein: yes the older fedora kernel loads,  but not the new one
[18:25] <prometheus199> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/amueXdY.jpg
[18:25] <legion59> i knew that the headset would be an issue
[18:25] <ikonia> legion59: I'll ask one more time
[18:25] <ikonia> legion59: "how" have you verified it's paired and working in ubuntu
[18:26] <holstein> coolack: i would ask a fedora support channel about the kernel.. kernel upgrades break things sometimes.. doesnt matter what OS it is
[18:26] <ikonia> it's not a fedora issue
[18:26] <legion59> I varified,..it thru the Pulse audio,...tested it with the test sound
[18:26] <ikonia> it's a grub issue with ubuntu
[18:26] <holstein> coolack: do you need help finding a fedora support channel?
[18:26] <coolack> holstein: no its the ubuntu grub issue ikonia is right
[18:26] <coolack> holstein: the new kernel works with their grub not ubuntus
[18:26] <holstein> coolack: have you restored grub? i would just fresh install a grub then
[18:26] <ikonia> no
[18:26] <coolack> holstein: yes
[18:26] <ikonia> "restore grub"???
[18:27] <prometheus199_> :#
[18:27] <moes> Which jre for 12.04
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199, Can you give me a picture of gparted again. Is this an apple computer perchance, or has it had gpt partitioning?
[18:27] <coolack> ikonai:  I lol again
[18:27] <holstein> coolack: please lol in the OT channel..
[18:27] <coolack> at he is trying to help me
[18:27] <ikonia> coolack: I don't know why you keep saying "lol"
[18:27] <coolack> *at least
[18:27] <prometheus199_> nah it's an HP
[18:27] <coolack> like most linux users are you opposed to happiness?
[18:27] <holstein> if "restored" is not the proper term, appoligies.. but, you have reinstalled grub, correct coolack ?
[18:28] <ikonia> coolack: please stop with the random attempts at insulting people.
[18:28] <ikonia> holstein: there is no need to re-install grub - it won't do anything
[18:28] <coolack> ikonia: you just told me not to lol,  what is wrong with you?
[18:28] <coolack> holstein: yes i have done that
[18:28] <prometheus199_> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/eMYRuG1.jpg
[18:28] <legion59> Ill see you all later,..GTG
[18:28] <ikonia> legion59: ok - so what happens when you try to use it with skpe
[18:29] <brijithmac> hi all, I am not able to connect to yahoo using pidgin
[18:29] <holstein> so, fedora grub would deal with the three OS's then ikonia ?
[18:29] <nightdrever> my hard drive looks like this...... http://imgbin.me/view/HVUUYDOR       is it possible to extend linux partion without distroying windows and my current linux install??
[18:29] <ikonia> holstein: ubuntu grub will deal with 3 os's
[18:29] <coolack> holstain,  ubuntu is better,  because the fedora grub is a whole long complicated process to add it to boot menu
[18:29] <holstein> ikonia: thats what i was thinking.. so, what is the plan? a custom grub line for the fedora install?
[18:29] <coolack> with ubuntu i just usually mount drive sudo update-grub very simple
[18:29] <ikonia> coolack: it's the same grub version the process is the same but fedora's design doesn't have the design flaw.
[18:30] <coolack> I believe i have to edit the lines in the grub menu for new kernel not sure what to put there
[18:30] <coolack> if I ask in fedora channel they are even more hostile then ikonia,  telling me not to bother
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199_ I'm not familiar with that error, Try in gparted with everything else closed click devise and create partition table, then close gparted and try install again.
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> device*
[18:30] <brijithmac> hi all, I am not able to connect to yahoo using pidgin. can any one help me
[18:30] <smallfoot-> Jun 25 20:21:43 anonymous kernel: [ 5442.944009] nouveau E[    2188] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000
[18:30] <smallfoot-> Jun 25 20:21:46 anonymous kernel: [ 5445.964010] nouveau E[    3539] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000
[18:30] <smallfoot-> this is gay, my computer crashed
[18:30] <FloodBot1> smallfoot-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <nightdrever> my hard drive looks like this...... http://imgbin.me/view/HVUUYDOR       is it possible to extend linux partion without distroying windows and my current linux install??
[18:31] <prometheus199_> wilee-nilee: "Warning: This will erase all data on the entire disk /dev/sda"
[18:31] <moes> Which jre for 12.04
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199_, That is what we want.
[18:31] <usr13> coolack: If you make flawed assumptions and present them as facts, people get hostile, it's just human nature.
[18:31] <prometheus199_> gotchya
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> nightdrever  don't repeat too quickly, be patient and wait until someone can help
[18:31] <nightdrever> sorry MonkeyDust
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199_, Choose the msdos type when asked
[18:32] <prometheus199_> says to update installer but when i click it it just goes away and doesn't
[18:32] <prometheus199_> still giving me exit code 2
[18:33] <gazarsgo> i have my /etc/security/limits.conf set to 1B for core but my core dump is getting truncated still at 23M
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199_, Hmm I'm not sure here, I wonder if the the ISO you downloaded is corrupt, I see a bug report with that error but different #, that is assocated with Other OS's being on the hd however you are clean.
[18:34] <prometheus199_> might be corrupt... downloaded it straight from ubuntu's website though
[18:35] <usr13> prometheus199_: md5sum it and google results
[18:35] <prometheus199_> the heck is md5sum
[18:35] <usr13> !md5sum | prometheus199_
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199_, For me all I can do is knock out variables, if it were me I would do another download of the ISO, you can also run a md5sum on it if you like and try it.
[18:36] <usr13> prometheus199_: Just do    md5sum ubuntu-file-name.iso
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> !md5
[18:36] <prometheus199> sorry, FF crashed again.
[18:36] <prometheus199> !md5sum
[18:37] <usr13> are we going to go over md5sum factoid over and over again?  ?
[18:38] <moes> Which jre for 12.04
[18:38] <ikonia> moes: up to you, there are multiple options
[18:38] <ikonia> !java |moes
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> usr13, When you start posting whch is good, and have not been it is easy to miss your post if one is a slow typer trying to get a post on.
[18:38] <prometheus199__> i hate my computer.
[18:39] <usr13> wilee-nilee: Oh, that's ok... just seemed a but redundant there...
[18:40] <dank101> http://askubuntu.com/questions/312658/pulseaudio-glitching-out-really-badly
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:40] <usr13> prometheus199__: whasamatter?
[18:40] <usr13> prometheus199__: A computer is only as good as it's OS and the software that YOU install.
[18:41] <prometheus199__> well i'm on live boot from USB, installer keeps giving me exit code 2, and I used unetbootin to put the ISO on my flashdrive so I don't even think i can use md5sum on it
[18:41] <tangled> unetbootin is iffy
[18:41] <prometheus199__> and yeah usr13 ik, this computer's a few years old and it's dyin
[18:42] <roasted> Question - I installed kernel 3.9.4 on Ubuntu 13.04 in an effort to see if 3.9 fixed an issue I was having in 3.8. Problem is, when I install my Broadcom STA driver through additional drivers menu, it doesn't work. I just have no wireless entry in network manager. How can I get my Broadcom STA driver working when using Ubuntu 13.04 + kernel 3.9.4?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199__, You can run the smartdisc check on the HD from disks in the menu brought up by the windows key.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199__, I wonder if gthe HD is the problem.
[18:43] <usr13> prometheus199__: What OS is on it?
[18:43] <holstein> roasted: does it happen to be one of the chipsets that can use the open driver?
[18:43] <prometheus199__> 12.04.2 LTS
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> usr13, It is empty we have removed all partitions and  made a new partition table,\.
[18:44] <usr13> wilee-nilee: On prometheus199__'s PC?
[18:44] <prometheus199__> ye
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> usr13, yes
[18:44] <nightdrever> my partions are set up like this http://imgbin.me/view/HVUUYDOR   is it possible to extend ubuntu partion and shrink windows without corrupting things on my PC?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199__, I would do the disk check
[18:45] <usr13> wilee-nilee: Oh, ok.  Thanks for the info.
[18:45] <prometheus199__> yeah... how do i do the disk check?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> usr13, No problem, helps to have some info.
[18:46] <roasted> holstein: does "what" happen to be one of the chipsets?
[18:46] <Crosant_> hi any things to look for when installing ubuntu on a uefi system?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199__, There is an app called disk in the menu you brought up with the windows key, it has a dropdown top right corner that will tell you the HD state.
[18:46] <prometheus199234> oh my lordy
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Crosant_
[18:47] <prometheus199234> i open a new tab in FF and it crashes. but yeah, how do i do the disk check? lol
[18:47] <dank101> can someone help me
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, There is an app called disk in the menu you brought up with the windows key, it has a dropdown top right corner that will tell you the HD state.
[18:47] <dank101> Pulse audio for me is glitching out badly, randomly switching to headphones when i have none plugged ij
[18:48] <dank101> *in
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> !patience > dank101
[18:48] <prometheus199234> when i hit th ewindows key there's no app called disk
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, YOU bring up a menu type disk
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, That menu is like the search option in w7.
[18:49] <babinlonston> How to assign Static IP  in ubuntu12.04 , I want to set my IP as 192.168.1.25 , Subnetmask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.1.1 and nameservers are 218.212.228.147 , 218.212.28.147 Please Guide me .. and i want to do this only in command line ...
[18:50] <Guest62851> oi
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> vei
[18:50] <babinlonston> :-(
[18:50] <Crosant_> babinlonston: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[18:51] <prometheus199234> only four apps when i type disk are "disk utility", "disk usage analyzer", "startup disk creator", and "install" -- sorry if i'm not seeing what you're talking about lol
[18:51] <babinlonston> Will u please Give explain it .. alreay i have tried but cant yet :(
[18:51] <genii> babinlonston: man interfaces  ... for how to make entries there. As for the nameservers the file is /etc/resolv.conf  and the manpage is same name
[18:51] <babinlonston> ok
[18:51] <finbar> might sound like a stupid question but is there a way to install ubuntu for android onto a pc?
[18:52] <babinlonston> Any Idea About Assigning the Static IP for Ubuntu Which have installed in Proxmox Virtualization
[18:52] <genii> babinlonston: Once you understand how to make entries in those files from reading the manpages: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces     or: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf   ...to edit them
[18:52] <babinlonston> Sure @ genii
[18:53] <popey> finbar: not yet, it's not released yet
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, Should be named disks, looks like this. http://imagebin.org/262482
[18:53] <vall> by
[18:53] <Avdesh> can anyone tell me how to remove guest login from ubuntu 12.10
[18:54] <babinlonston> will be back after testing bye for now good night guys
[18:54] <finbar> bummer
[18:54] <prometheus199234> nothin like that here
[18:55] <compdoc> Avdesh, I know how on 12.04. maybe its the same
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> !info disks
[18:55] <prometheus199234> ima reboot tho. prob just gonna keep it like this (cuz it's a PITA atm) and just buy a laptop or summn
[18:55] <finbar> well it uses unity right
[18:55] <Avdesh> compdoc: tell me please.
[18:56] <Avdesh> co
[18:56] <finbar> can i use unity on any distro
[18:56] <compdoc> Avdesh, sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf     add at the end:  allow-guest=false        then reboot
[18:56] <__kluh__> why is adobe flash failing to install on ubuntu?
[18:56] <compdoc> Avdesh, or use gedit
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, I am in raring the smartdisk checker is in all releases, not sure if you may need to open those you see in that menu till you see what I posted an image of, it may have a different name in 12.04.
[18:56] <Avdesh> compdoc: thanx man. Let me try.
[18:56] <gordonjcp> __kluh__: no idea
[18:56] <genii> __kluh__: PErhaps try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:56] <gordonjcp> __kluh__: is there maybe some sort of error message?
[18:57] <genii> gordonjcp: Also, we don't know if they're trying to install it straight from adobe, etc
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, I am assuming it is on the live cd it should be I would think, kind of an important app.
[18:57] <gordonjcp> genii: well yeah
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> prometheus199234, And by the way you are doing good here, a new OS is not easy, especially when it has unusual error problems. ;)
[19:00] <prometheus55> dont think so man. just had the comp turn off randomly lol
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, I saw you disappear, you mentioned the computer as dying earlier, what gives you this idea?
[19:01] <darrennnn> hi #ubuntu. does 13.04 or 12.04 have better live cd tools for diagnosing computer problems? in particular: memory and/or hard drive tests?
[19:01] <roasted> Is there a road map for when Ubuntu will adopt newer kernel versions? Like is there a way to find out when 3.9 will come down to 13.04?
[19:01] <shah0516> Hello, When I connect to my Wifi from ubuntu laptop, other devices are not able to connect to wifi router. When I boot from Windows 7 and connect to Wifi, other devices are able to connect. Can anyone please help in fixing this issue? I tried different encryption modes, nothing worked. I noticed my machine always gets 192.168.1.5 as IP address, is this anyway related to the issue? Do I need to make Wifi router as DHCP server?  my wireless card info: produc
[19:01] <shah0516> t: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller driver=wl0 driverversion=6.20.155.1 (r326264)
[19:01] <holstein> darrennnn: both have those tools.. neither are specifically designed for that.. i would use a live CD made for that
[19:02] <darrennnn> holstein: can you rec one? i am a windows guy so i don't know how complex i need to delve. i just want to fire up something and run some basic tests.
[19:03] <prometheus55> well i went to create a new partition, it was doing it then thr screen went blue
[19:03] <darrennnn> holstein: i know that the ubuntu live cd has a memory test so i thought i would start there
[19:03] <prometheus55> might be wk
[19:04] <prometheus55> working now though, booted the installer and it said no detected OS and is installing now
[19:04] <holstein> darrennnn: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ is what i use.. the one that is going to be "best" for you will be the one you can easily use.. if that is a live ubuntu cd, then that is fine.. use the one you have used before if choosing between 12.04 or 13.04
[19:04] <prometheus55> lets see how that goes lom
[19:04] <shah0516> holstein: I have used the approaches suggested by you except installing new drivers, can you please recommend alternate driver for BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller driver=wl0 driverversion=6.20.155.1 (r326264)
[19:04] <eq-> hi, does anyone know the exact steps one needs to achieve an exact equivalent of Ubuntu's default font rendering/hinting when starting from a minimal Ubuntu installation? (short of installing the `ubuntu-desktop' package itself)
[19:04] <eq-> i.e. is a precise fontconfig enough (I've tried a few), or do I need to install additional packages, or something else?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> roasted, Never worried personally, however this wiki may help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[19:05] <roasted> wilee-nilee: I'm having issues getting my broadcom driver installed in 3.9, but I want to use 3.9 as I think I'm facing a 3.8 specific bug. Part of me is wondering if I should give up and wait until 3.9 becomes official in 13.04, but I'm not sure how long out that would be.
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, Got my fingers crossed. ;)
[19:06] <prometheus55> im with ya man. spent the better part of 3 days trying to get my computer fixed lol
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> roasted, Not sure here, I'm not up on broadcom or any specific bugs.
[19:07] <roasted> wilee-nilee: by cahnce do you have a sandy bridge powered laptop?
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, HP has some funky built in firmware, just a hypothesis, but one never knows.
[19:08] <darrennnn> holstein: hmmm okay thanks. i feel like i''ve tried the ubcd before and several of the utilities didn't run. i am probably just an idiot though.
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> roasted, Nah I have a toshiba a205 s5812 laptop about 5 years old.
[19:08] <vmuser100> clear
[19:08] <roasted> :(O
[19:08] <roasted> :(, rather
[19:08] <prometheus55> o true
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> Runs great at 64 bit 3 gigs ram and a SSD.
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> never had better so it seems fine, lol
[19:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> cfhowlett, i think i got itworking
[19:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> hey what happen to glxgears
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> LucidDreamZzZ, glxgears is added in compiz right?
[19:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> i realize its old 3d benchmark maybe irrelevant..
[19:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> trying to test 3d
[19:11] <holstein> darrennnn: nah, its not "beginner" friendly.. using a live CD from ubuntu is a great way to start
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> wilee-nilee, yeah i dunno...?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> roasted: How did you install 3.9, and are you trying to use b43 or the proprietary broadcom driver? If the former, it should "Just Work™" since what's needed is only the firmware, the driver itself is included in the mainline kernel.
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> LucidDreamZzZ,  Have not run unity for awhile I like it but use the shell, I remember though that to add the gears t is a plugin in compiz I believe.
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> it*
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> LucidDreamZzZ, As I remember though the gears were inside the cube, which is not sop easy to make now I beleve.
[19:14] <darrennnn> allright well thanks again holstein, i'll probably make a couple CDs and give them both a try.
[19:14] <mmercer> whats the proper way of determining if there are updates available (via a monitoring tool)... ie, I just want to know a number, i dont need the list.
[19:14] <darrennnn> take care.
[19:15] <seul> Hi! Can you view ext3/ext4 formated hard drives nativlly on a Mac, and Windows? =)
[19:15] <usr13> mmercer: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:16] <Marcosfranca> olá galera
[19:16] <Marcosfranca> como vai..
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> !es
[19:16] <mmercer> usr13: which of course will hang as it waits for a prompt. to wether or not i want to upgrade.. so I have to do an echo "n" | apt-get upgrade and then grep out the package count ?
[19:16] <Marcosfranca> estou precisando de uma ajuda
[19:16] <shah0516> bye guys I'll try to fix on my own. will get back if I could not do it..  good night! :)
[19:16] <mmercer> sound about right ?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Marcosfranca, ^^^^
[19:17] <Jordan_U> seul: With third party software, yes (without third party software, no).
[19:17] <Marcosfranca> estou querendo recura o win7 pelo terminal
[19:17] <Marcosfranca> mais não sei qual ferramenta usar.
[19:17] <Marcosfranca> o mesmo não liga
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Marcosfranca, THis is an english channel, what is your natve language
[19:18] <llutz_> mmercer: aptitude search "~U"|wc -l     should give you the number
[19:18] <Jordan_U> !pt | Marcosfranca
[19:18] <mmercer> llutz_: cool, ty
[19:18] <seul> Jordan_U:  Ok, but it's not a hassle? Another question, if you're up for it. Will windows/mac be able to read/write the drive correctly through the local network? (with help from Samba)
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, THanks had to look at google translate to get that.
[19:19] <Marcosfranca> tank you
[19:19] <Marcosfranca> bye bye
[19:19] <baebbe> hello! Can anyone tell me, with which samsung galaxy ubuntu phone will work? I am not very familiar with hardware, just read that ubuntu phone was presented on a samsung galaxy cellphone.
[19:19] <holstein> !phone
[19:20] <baebbe> ah
[19:20] <baebbe> ok, thank you
[19:20] <Jordan_U> seul: I haven't tried in a long time so I don't know how much hassle it is to work with ext4 in Windows/OSX. Yes, both Windows and OSX should be able to work with Samba shares with no issues.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> Crosant_ You asked about UEFI earlier here is a form link as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:21] <seul> Jordan_U:  Cool, thx
[19:21] <vooze> How do I make the font on 13.04 @ 40" TV look the best? I've tried tweaking with it alot but can't seem to find a good setting :(
[19:22] <vooze> 1080p also
[19:22] <play593> Hi!
[19:22] <compdoc> eq-, you see a bad font in terminal, for example?
[19:24] <jlebrech> i don't get this, ubuntu live cd lets me resize the partitions yet I can't copy files from one partition to another wtf is that all about?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> jlebrech, don't swear and give details
[19:26] <jlebrech> ok gksudo nautilus lets you copy
[19:26] <ehhh> **** ************ *** **** ************ ****
[19:26] <jlebrech> gparted chowns everything as root
[19:26] <jlebrech> i get it now
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> cool
[19:27] <jlebrech> is ubuntu ok with ndis nowadays?
[19:28] <Jordan_U> seul: You're welcome.
[19:28] <ehhh> does anyone know does ssd's connect the same way as a 2.5"? i think i can only connect 3.5" to my media pc
[19:29] <llutz_> ehhh: its s-ata connector, same 2.5 as 3.5"
[19:29] <eq-> compdoc: yes
[19:29] <tking> can i get a job if i know the commandline and no programming language?
[19:29] <prometheus55> wilee-nilee - didnt work
[19:29] <tking> can i get a job if i know the commandline and no programming language? if so as what? and where can one work with such knowledge
[19:29] <eq-> by default (after installing, say, a window manager and a single graphical program) the fonts are quite bad
[19:30] <ehhh> llutz_: so i wouldn't have  a problem using an ssd on that computer running ubuntu? it's a really old stationary lol
[19:30] <prometheus55> i give up, bout to smash my comp
[19:30] <tangled> tking good question
[19:30] <llutz_> ehhh: you shouldn't, just make sure your pc has s-ata interfaces (not p-ata)
[19:30] <eq-> you can alleviate the problem somewhat by tuning the fonts.conf, but I haven't been able to find the settings that produce the exact equivalent of the default Ubuntu install
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, Any errors on the install or just no grub boot menu?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, Or just a black screen when you boot?
[19:31] <marianne_> tking: i have 4 programming languages and 12 years as a systems analyst and all i could find was a support position.
[19:31] <ehhh> llutz_: i'm better off sticking with two 3.5" ? i think memory will be my first upgrade on that computer as i've got 250 gb main drive 500gb secondary
[19:32] <prometheus55> wepl when i boot it dtill showd the hp screen with boot options, setup, ect. if i do nothi.g it goes to a blue screen with "not support!"
[19:32] <ehhh> seagate and western digital battling in my computers to see which one dies first
[19:32] <prometheus55> if i hit boot and boot from hdd, same tjing. gotta boot from usb still
[19:32] <jlebrech> tking: tech support analyst
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, Try holding down the shift key as soon as you power on to see if you get grub the boot menu.
[19:33] <prometheus55> and my graphics card is dunzo i think. keeps flashing the screen and stuff
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, remove the usb as well
[19:33] <prometheus55> shift key.... mk
[19:34] <jlebrech> i have an ssd and a 750bg ssd in my macbook, but maybe i should have gotten two hdd in raid 0
[19:34] <ehhh> wait 750gb ssd? for real?
[19:34] <ToddMan> don't know how to use irc how to a get into sound/ audio recording channel?
[19:34] <prometheus55> shift key did notjing
[19:34] <holstein> ToddMan: #opensourcemusicians is a great community
[19:35] <jlebrech> ehh i meant hdd
[19:35] <jlebrech> ehhh 750gb hdd, and 120gb ssd
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> prometheus55, You might try ##hardware  However we have not checked the ISO of that download, however it seems to be a hardware issue maybe.
[19:35] <ToddMan> hotstein: great thanks.  Sorry I'm a noob how do I connect with them
[19:35] <holstein> ToddMan: try /join #opensourcemusicians
[19:35] <ToddMan> thanks
[19:35] <prometheus55> hggg
[19:36] <ehhh> lol, what do you think would be would be the best option on this old media computer i'm messing for hdds? i can only fit two in there (i think, only two available cables for hdd's)
[19:37] <gordonjcp> ehhh: when you say "old media computer" what do you plan on using it for?
[19:37] <Guest72029> Ubuntu  is my GOD
[19:37] <ehhh> i need a lot of space on atleast one of the drives for music and video library
[19:37] <jlebrech> ehhh are you going to play one file at a time and not be bother about copying files to it fast?
[19:37] <ehhh> i can fit half of my music on the 250gb that's installed in it right now
[19:37] <gordonjcp> ehhh: so a media playback machine?
[19:38] <gordonjcp> ehhh: no hard disks at all
[19:38] <jlebrech> ehhh you can get 1tb cheap
[19:38] <gordonjcp> ehhh: stick the OS and front-end onto a USB stick
[19:38] <gordonjcp> ehhh: put all the media onto hard disks on a server somewhere out of the way where you can't hear it
[19:38] <jlebrech> ehhh are you not storing?
[19:38] <ehhh> jlebrech: yes basically a music player / video player
[19:39] <ehhh> gordonjcp: yes i considered if i should get nas drives then i wouldn't be limited at all, though i'm trying out just running everything inside of the computer
[19:39] <ehhh> i keep stuff i want to keep so it piles up
[19:40] <ehhh> jlebrech: i am storing i'm constantly running out of space on all my computers and externals lol :P
[19:40] <gordonjcp> ehhh: well stick with the 250G for now
[19:40] <gordonjcp> ehhh: that ought to be enough to test ;-)
[19:40] <gordonjcp> ehhh: minimise your variables
[19:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> what version xorg is on the 12.04 right now?
[19:40] <jlebrech> ehhh so you have a machine to play and one to store? put a 1tb drive in the server
[19:41] <ehhh> i dunno how i'm not running out of space on this laptop right now, i've got 5 gb's left of space and have beeen like that for months even though there's always something new
[19:41] <gordonjcp> ehhh: you know the machine works in its current configuration
[19:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> !xorg
[19:41] <genii> !info xserver-xorg precise
[19:41] <ehhh> gordonjcp: yes i think the 250 will do the job nicely right now i'm considering if i should just put as much music on it as possible to get stuff going
[19:41] <jlebrech> is ndiswrapper all ready to install a driver on ubuntu?
[19:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> ty genii !!
[19:42] <ehhh> the second 500 is full of old stuff
[19:42] <genii> LucidDreamZzZ: Yer welcome
[19:43] <abnev> hey, i'm trying to mount an SD card which is connected via a usb reader but it's failing to mount
[19:43] <seronis> Q:  what is a good SIMPLE image editor?  i have gimp already which is great for real work but sometimes i just want to quickly open an image to do basic tasks and its annoying waiting for GIMPs load time
[19:43] <abnev> http://pastebin.com/sDssBa2y
[19:43] <abnev> anyone have any suggestions?
[19:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> !info xserver-org oneiric
[19:44] <ehhh> i can always get a huge external drive for storing video and just keep it connected to my computer but i imagine i'd have better results if i get a huge internal hdd, i'm only planning ahead right now lol
[19:45] <display1> Is it possible to install different version of firefox?  I am trying to use the navigator.onLine method and it doesn't work in firefox 16
[19:45] <display1> ehhh, the external are just as fast really
[19:45] <ehhh> display1: even for watching videos off it directly?
[19:46] <display1> yep
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> display1, What OS and release are you running?
[19:46] <zdennis> I'm having issues enabling user jobs in upstart.  I have used Bradley Ayers dbus upstart.conf ( https://gist.github.com/bradleyayers/1660182 ) but "start somejob" always ends up in "Unknown job: some job"
[19:46] <tking> marianne_, why is it so? because, i don't know if system analyst require linux knowledge || programmer or both
[19:46] <display1> wilee-nilee, ubuntu, I think 12
[19:46] <zdennis> does anyone know how to properly enable them?
[19:47] <display1> wilee-nilee, 3.5.0-17-generic
[19:47] <ehhh> nice, i might just try to clean my 1tb drive but then i need another 1tb to store all the other junk i've got going on there LOL. it's ridiculous
[19:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> nvidia 96 works now...  idk why
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> display1, what does this show. lsb_release -a
[19:47] <jlebrech> anyone have tape backup at home?
[19:47] <ehhh> display1: are you thinking about usb2 or usb3?
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> uninstalled X and setup preferences file which was ignored...
[19:48] <display1> wilee-nilee, 12.10
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> reinstall xorg and now its fine
[19:48] <Donkeysupreme> #drugs
[19:48] <marianne_> tking: I missed my window to be a programmer... all the jobs went offshore. So I did support and kinda worked my way into a niche position. I do support, if you want the simple term, but mostly I work with the business units doing application inprovements and integration
[19:49] <gazarsgo> only the crap jobs went offshore ^_^
[19:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> how to reproduce thi
[19:49] <mrdavid> I need to cause a system hang to test out some monitoring software. I've tried "echo e > /proc/sysrq" but the server is still pingable when it completes. Any ideas?
[19:49] <display1> ehhh, not sure, my neighbor does what you mentioned, he has like ten harddrives, and some kind of plugin device so you can just swap em
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> display1, WE only support FF fromm the repos in general 12.10 should have FF21 as of now, you can extract a download of FF and use it, but it is not supported basically a heads up here.
[19:51] <display1> wilee-nilee, oh, I don't know why I have 16 then, how can I correct this issue, I would like the firefox from the repos
[19:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> wondering waht the nvidia installer broke that reinstalling X fixed well it works
[19:51] <display1> wilee-nilee, maybe I need to do a system update or something, how do I do that
[19:51] <tking> marianne_, are you in america?
[19:51] <marianne_> tking: yup
[19:52] <tigrang> Can anyone tell from my xorg log if opensource radeon drivers are working with acceleration? http://pastebin.com/XsEVtqJZ I have an HD7770 card.
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> display1, You would of had to removed the one in the repos, a regular update upgrade in the terminal or the gui updater would have you at ff21, what is your history here.
[19:52] <display1> wilee-nilee, when I do apt-get install firefox, it says I already have the newest one
[19:53] <tking> marianne_,  thats great, programming i think is a way of life. U can still please yourself and write web apps or programs as freelance programmer to open your window
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> display1, If you open that firefox and click help what version does it say?
[19:53] <display1> wilee-nilee, 16
[19:53] <gordonjcp> 20:49 < marianne_> tking: I missed my window to be a programmer... all the jobs went offshore. So I did
[19:53] <gordonjcp> marianne_: rubbish
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> display1, Have you installed another FF?
[19:53] <g0th> hi
[19:53] <g0th> I have a folder that I somehow just can't remove
[19:53] <g0th> how do I remove a folder?
[19:54] <display1> wilee-nilee, no but I had updates off for a while
[19:54] <g0th> I thought rm -rf folder as root was enough
[19:54] <gordonjcp> marianne_: you can be a programmer anywhere.  The whole "offshore coder" thing seems to be largely restricted to American companies, though
[19:54] <g0th> but apparently it doesn't work even though nothing is using the folder
[19:54] <display1> wilee-nilee, maybe if I do a full system update?
[19:54] <g0th> the only solution I see now is to backup all other folders and reformat the whole partition
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> display1, Not sure why it is not correct you might pastebin your software sources.list .
[19:55] <display1> How do I update my systems, Software Sources?
[19:55] <marianne_> gordonjcp: yeah it pretty much is... but I like where I live and I work from home, so I'm ok not being a programmer... right now I'm working on my Linux cert
[19:55] <g0th> but that will take me a week (the system is around 5TB)
[19:55] <g0th> how do I delete a folder? :)
[19:55] <tigrang> via terminal g0th ?
[19:55] <g0th> tigrang: yes, how?=
[19:55] <tigrang> rm -R folder
[19:55] <g0th> tigrang: I tried rm -rf folder/ as root
[19:55] <display1> wilee-nilee, Everything was commented out for a while, cause I turned everything off, cause this system was in kiosk mode and we didn't want those to pop up
[19:56] <g0th> tigrang: it doesn't work
[19:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> dont do that
[19:56] <marianne_> gordonjcp: I do very well with the skills I've developed and my programming background make me an assett to the actual development group
[19:56] <g0th> somehow there are some strange links in the folder structure
[19:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> anyway
[19:56] <g0th> maybe it gets confused
[19:56] <g0th> dunno
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> display1, POst the list as it is now in a pastebin.
[19:56] <tigrang> g0th: you get an error?
[19:56] <g0th> no
[19:56] <g0th> it just doesn't work
[19:56] <g0th> I let it work for 20 hours, then I canceled it
[19:57] <display1> wilee-nilee, http://pastebin.com/3sgq9QGN
[19:58] <gordonjcp> marianne_: cool
[19:58] <gordonjcp> marianne_: it's a mindset that you get into
[19:58] <roasted> Jordan_U: sorry, was afk for super long. I installed kernel 3.9.4 stable via a google search online. It basically downloaded the necessary .deb's and dpkg -i'd the packages and now I have 3.9.4. I notice if you get new kernels via software update, it auto compiles the drivers in use on old kernel to new kernel. When you manually install new kernels, ti does not, which is what's burning me.
[19:58] <gordonjcp> marianne_: it's also kind of fun ;-)
[19:58] <tigrang> Can anyone tell from my xorg log if opensource radeon drivers are working with acceleration? http://pastebin.com/XsEVtqJZ I have an HD7770 card.
[19:59] <marianne_> gordonjcp: I do play a little with it here and there... to me it's like a big puzzle that you create and when it compiles... it's ALMOST as good as s3x
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> display1, YOU are missing repos, here is a list generator. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[19:59] <gordonjcp> marianne_: well now, that's going a bit far!
[20:00] <gordonjcp> marianne_: Making Cool Stuff Happen is always fun, and programming is a good way to achieve that
[20:00] <marianne_> gordonjcp: sorry... but I really do like when it compiles and the errors are all resolved and it does stuff that it's supposed to
[20:01] <gordonjcp> marianne_: hah, you should try compiling with -Wall -Werror
[20:01] <gordonjcp> marianne_: and getting it building clean
[20:01] <gordonjcp> marianne_: you'll be tripping balls off that for days
[20:01] <display1> wilee-nilee, oh I check them all except for 3rd party
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> question, the fglrx & fglrx-updates drivers under Additional Drivers of Software Sources (in 12.10), is that already installed? or is it installing fglrx from apt?
[20:02] <display1> wilee-nilee, so I will empty my sources file and replace with this newly generated on
[20:02] <gQuigs> on fresh reboot, sunrpc debug flags are 0
[20:02] <gQuigs> but I have them specified in sysctl.conf and when I run sysctl -p they get set correctly
[20:02] <gQuigs> what am I doing wrong?
[20:02] <gQuigs> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5799593/
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> Here is the stock quantal sources list http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php
[20:04] <display1> wilee-nilee, ok, should I just do apt-get install firefox now, or should I do apt-get purge firefox first to remove the 16 version I have installed, and then when I do install firefox it will install 21?
[20:05] <display1> wilee-nilee, I just did apt-get install firefox, and it says firefox will be updated
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> display1, I would run in the terminal sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   copy and paste the whole command
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> display1, Cool run the other command as well to be sure you are all updated.
[20:06] <display1> wilee-nilee, I did update and then I installed firefox.  but I'll do dist-upgrade next
[20:07] <jamtho> hallo
[20:07] <zykotick9> display1: fyi, "apt-get update" does NOT install NEW versions of packages, which firefox would be... but dist-upgrade does...
[20:07] <display1> wilee-nilee, alright...woohooo, I am running firefox 21 now.  Thanks man.  Much appreciated
[20:07] <marianne_> gordonjcp: going to have to try that.... probably a trip
[20:07] <display1> zykotick9, thx
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> display1, No problem.
[20:08] <gordonjcp> marianne_: it'll blow your tiny wee mind
[20:08] <gordonjcp> marianne_: in six months, the default settings for gcc will change and you'll have all new warnings to play with
[20:08] <display1> frig man dist-upgrade is installing tons of packages
[20:08] <gordonjcp> marianne_: it's a blast
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> display1, enjoy the flying text in the terminal.
[20:09] <display1> lol, on my other computer I have firefox 3.5
[20:09] <Ari-Yang> well, I've been told that fglrx and fglrx-updates comes from apt, to be honest, I think it's true. Can I get anymore thoughts on this?
[20:10] <Fraise> hi
[20:11] <saiarcot895> Ari-Yang: you mean AMD?
[20:11] <Ari-Yang> saiarcot895, yes.
[20:11] <gQuigs> Ari-Yang: yes there are fglrx and fglrx-updates packages in apt....
[20:12] <Ari-Yang> no, I'm asking is the ones from the Additional Drivers tab from software sources gets it from apt or not
[20:12] <Ari-Yang> http://gyazo.com/bbcb6b1dba1a4cb5a63ee30dcfb7b692 <--- here's a screen shot
[20:12] <Ari-Yang> this is 12.10
[20:13] <gQuigs> Ari-Yang: yes, that is from apt
[20:13] <gQuigs> Ari-Yang: everything in there is from apt
[20:13] <tigrang> Can anyone tell from my xorg log if opensource radeon drivers are working with acceleration? http://pastebin.com/XsEVtqJZ I have an HD7770 card.
[20:13] <Ari-Yang> gQuigs, thanks for confirming ^^
[20:14] <__kluh__> what is a good way to learn linux with ubuntu? what can i learn about security for example?
[20:14] <reisio> tigrang: install mesa-utils and glxinfo | grep -i direct
[20:14] <tigrang> reisio: direct rendering: Yes
[20:15] <reisio> tigrang: should do :)
[20:15] <Ari-Yang> tigrang, but it may not be 3D acceleration
[20:15] <Ari-Yang> correct me if I'm wrong, reisio
[20:15] <reisio> __kluh__: security for a desktop system?
[20:16] <reisio> he didn't say 3d, and I'm not sure it matters
[20:16] <tigrang> I installed gnome-shell and it's using 80% cpu, I think its because its using software rendering so I want to make sure the video driver is working properly first
[20:16] <Ari-Yang> ah
[20:16] <reisio> tigrang: one process is?
[20:17] <Ari-Yang> if one process is 80% cpu....something is up....
[20:17] <LucidDreamZzZ> ahh glxgears
[20:17] <tigrang> reisio: one of gnome-shell processes? Yea
[20:17] <__kluh__> what flash player should i use for ubuntu?
[20:17] <reisio> tigrang: which one?
[20:17] <reisio> __kluh__: whichever https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[20:17] <tigrang> reisio: command says "gnome-shell"
[20:17] <tigrang> usng top
[20:17] <LucidDreamZzZ> ty resio
[20:18] <reisio> tigrang: that does sound not right :)
[20:18] <reisio> you can infer proper support based on the fps glxgears gives you,s ure
[20:18] <phinal> quit
[20:18] <reisio> phinal: you quit!
[20:19] <tigrang> reisio: I'm getting ~350-380 with HD7770
[20:19] <reisio> the human eye can perceive well into the thirties :p
[20:20] <reisio> so it's probably working just fine
[20:20] <tigrang> reisio: on my laptop with a worse GPU gnome-shell is at 0 to 0.3% cpu
[20:20] <reisio> tigrang: yeah, sounds like something is amiss
[20:20] <tigrang> is there a specific gnome-shell channel?
[20:21] <reisio> tigrang: there's a whole GNOME irc server
[20:21] <reisio> but you might start at #gnome here
[20:21] <tigrang> Or do you know if HD7770 is supported by the FOSS drivers?
[20:21] <ezio> is it possible to use putty to create a port 80 tunnel through another ssh server(only one hop)
[20:21] <Ari-Yang> tigrang, you could try fglrx....
[20:21] <reisio> tigrang: I have trouble imagining 300+ fps isn't working properly, but it's not really my area
[20:21] <reisio> ezio: wrong channel
[20:21] <ezio> sure what channel
[20:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> i was getting only 200
[20:22] <tigrang> reisio: well visually its not really lagging, i7 920 cpu so there's enough cores not to feel the 50-100% cpu on a core. But its a lot of wasted energy you know
[20:23] <tigrang> when it should be below 1%
[20:23] <Ari-Yang> tigrang, but something is up if it's that high for one process....
[20:23] <reisio> tigrang: already agreed a few times it sounds amiss :)
[20:24] <tigrang> Ari-Yang: it could be because of it falling back to software rendering and thus putting the load on the CPU. Im going to ask in #gnome to check if thats the case
[20:24] <Ari-Yang> okay, good luck
[20:24] <tigrang> thank Ari-Yang, reisio
[20:24] <Ari-Yang> np
[20:25] <g0th> hi again
[20:25] <g0th> I still have my problem that I cannot remove a directory
[20:25] <reisio> hi for the first time
[20:26] <g0th> I now managed to get an error message where it seems to fail:
[20:26] <g0th> it says that there is no file or directory for some files
[20:26] <g0th> I just want to remove the folder, so I don't care about what is there and what is not, I want to remove all
[20:27] <g0th> rm -r doesn't work as root
[20:27] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know of a video tool that lets me strip a certain audio channel of a batch of videos?
[20:28] <g0th> strip?
[20:28] <reisio> ThePendulum: ffmpeg
[20:28] <abnev> ThePendulum: i think ffmpeg or mplayer should od the trick
[20:28] <g0th> you mean extract the audio channel or remove the audio channel?
[20:28] <reisio> ThePendulum: but, what format videos? :)
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> winff might as well
[20:28] <reisio> winff is a frontend to ffmpeg
[20:28] <Ari-Yang> try mkvmergegui
[20:28] <usr13> ThePendulum: I know how to stip one at a time.
[20:28] <Ari-Yang> or mkvtoolnix
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I know
[20:29] <reisio> do you? :p
[20:29] <ThePendulum> usr13: If it's a matter of seconds per video, sure
[20:29] <ThePendulum> reisio: avi in this case
[20:29] <reisio> ThePendulum: probably stick with ffmpeg then
[20:29] <ThePendulum> I'm not sure what command to use to strip specifically a certain channel
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> ffmpeg has cli it can be run diferently, winnff has it n a gui is all.
[20:30] <saiarcot895> g0th: what about typing in "rm -r" and dragging the folder name from Nautilus into Terminal?
[20:30] <reisio> ThePendulum: what you do is copy what you want and not what you don't
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: rm -r foldername ,will delete folders
[20:30] <usr13> ThePendulum: I only know how to strip the audio.
[20:31] <usr13> ThePendulum: I've made mp3 files using  ffmpeg -i video.flv sound.wav && lame sound.wav sound.mp3 && rm video.flv sound.wav
[20:31] <reisio> ThePendulum: convenient explanation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148243
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> thependulum: if you have downloaded the vudeo from youtube and want the audio there are websites for that, saves you a job
[20:32] <ThePendulum> I want the video without the Russians blaring over it, rotfl
[20:32] <reisio> yeah, saves you ffmpeg -i input -vn -acodec copy output :p
[20:32] <ThePendulum> I have episodes of Monty Python's Flying Circus and they have 2 audio tracks, Russian and English :P
[20:32] <g0th> ActionParsnip: it doesn't in my case
[20:32] <ThePendulum> Let's see
[20:32] <reisio> ThePendulum: and you want to gain back the space that audio data takes up?
[20:32] <g0th> ActionParsnip: the folder is really strange
[20:32] <usr13> ThePendulum: Oh, you want to get rid of the audio?  (Why not just mute?)
[20:33] <g0th> the problematic one is from .wine/dosdevice/something
[20:33] <g0th> I see the whole filesystem in that folder somehow
[20:33] <ThePendulum> usr13: No, I want to get rid of the Russian channel, but keep the English channel
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> g0th: can you give a pastebin of the command and output please
[20:33] <reisio> ThePendulum: to save space on your hard drive?
[20:33] <ThePendulum> reisio: Not necessarily, but the Russian channel is the default and first one, and I don't want to have to switch every time I watch an episode
[20:33] <usr13> ThePendulum: Oh, I don't know about that.  Sorry.
[20:33] <saiarcot895> ThePendulum: you could try HandBrake
[20:33] <reisio> ThePendulum: use mplayer -fs -sid 2 foo/*.avi or something
[20:34] <Ari-Yang> I recommend mpv over mplayer...
[20:34] <damianus> reisio: :))
[20:34] <Ari-Yang> (fork of mplayer2)
[20:34] <reisio> handbrake another frontend to ffmpeg
[20:34] <ThePendulum> saiarcot895: Well the thing is, there are 4 series of each 10-15 episodes... Doing them all individually without an easy command line will take a long while
[20:34] <reisio> and mplayer2 is a fork of mplayer
[20:34] <lory> ciao
[20:34] <reisio> ...by a dev the other mplayer devs kicked out
[20:34] <ThePendulum> reisio: Let's see
[20:34] <lory> !list
[20:34] <Ari-Yang> mpv is a fork of mplayer2 that has active dev
[20:34] <g0th> pastebin seems to be down *g*
[20:34] <Ari-Yang> imo mpv is better than the 2... getting a little off topic here lol
[20:34] <reisio> ThePendulum: it's worth it to strip the stream if you want the space back, but not just to watch them with the right audio id
[20:35] <reisio> ThePendulum: oh it'd be -aid, not -sid :p
[20:35] <reisio> ThePendulum: man mplayer, /-aid
[20:35] <reisio> (I usually do it for subtitles, not audio :p)
[20:35] <saiarcot895> g0th: paste.ubuntu.com
[20:35] <reisio> Ari-Yang: how much is that saying if I consider mplayer2 to be nonsense? :)
[20:35] <saiarcot895> g0th: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[20:35] <ThePendulum> reisio: I have plenty of space, but the Russian channel will just get annoying while lifelessly watching them on a row
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> g0th: try http://pastie.org
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> g0th: there is more than one pastebin site
[20:35] <Vec_> I just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS over a previous identical installation. I formated the partitions the first install created and choose one for root (/). I then installed the GRUB thingie as i was asked in the next step of the install. Now that i boot my computer up it says "error: fd0 read error." and "error: file not found." "grub rescue>"
[20:35] <reisio> ThePendulum: yes :)
[20:36] <g0th> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799688/
[20:36] <reisio> ThePendulum: mplayer -fs -aid 2 (or whatever) path/to/dem/files/*.avi
[20:36] <g0th> the error messages go on
[20:36] <ThePendulum> reisio: I'll try that in a minute, thanks
[20:36] <g0th> there are tons of the same messages for different files
[20:36] <ThePendulum> reisio: Will it replace the existing files or create new ones or something?
[20:36] <reisio> ThePendulum: as the man page says, you can determine the actual aid # too
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> g0th: how do you figure "pastebin is down"?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> g0th: they cant ALL be down
[20:36] <g0th> the strange thing is /c/backup is from the root file system
[20:36] <reisio> ThePendulum: it'll just play the existing ones... with a different default audio stream
[20:36] <reisio> ThePendulum: the mplayer command, that is
[20:36] <g0th> ActionParsnip: well the page didn't load for me
[20:37] <reisio> ThePendulum: -aid 2 means roughly 'force audio stream 2, ignore others'
[20:37] <Ari-Yang> g0th, pastebin is working for me
[20:37] <ThePendulum> reisio: Ah
[20:37] <reisio> ThePendulum: it might actually be 1 or some other number, however, read the man page, /-aid
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> g0th: there are tonnes of pastebins. you dont have to use the ubuntu one to paste in here
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> g0th: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, Where did you install the grub thingie?
[20:38] <Vec_> erm
[20:38] <Vec_> not sure, i basically clicked NEXT
[20:38] <reisio> damianus: mplayer love? :)
[20:39] <ThePendulum> reisio: But all it does is playing it, not actually converting it or something?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, It would go in the mbr sdX
[20:39] <reisio> ThePendulum: correct
[20:39] <damianus> reisio: yes
[20:39] <damianus> :)
[20:39] <g0th> ReadyNASOS 6.0.8
[20:39] <reisio> ThePendulum: which is better :)
[20:39] <Vec_> wilee-nilee: I have no immediate clue what that means.
[20:39] <ThePendulum> reisio: Well that doesn't really solve my issue, unfortunately. I have no trouble selecting another channel, it's just that I want to save the time and annoyance.
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> g0th: i suggest you ask in their channel then
[20:39] <reisio> damianus: sometimes, when I think about mplayer, I get all teared up with love
[20:39] <g0th> it is a common linux problem, not distribution specific
[20:39] <reisio> ThePendulum: this does save the time and annoyance
[20:40] <reisio> ThePendulum: you understand that it would play them all with that audio stream
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> g0th  then ask in #linux
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g0th: yes but this channel IS distribution specific
[20:40] <g0th> sigh
[20:40] <g0th> ok
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, A HD has partitions like sda1, also known a sdXX the HD's mbr would be sda also known a sdX  the X's are for what yours actually are.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g0th: what is supported here and what isnt is incredibly simple
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> g0th  it's ##linux
[20:41] <g0th> let me try to reproduce it on ubuntu
[20:41] <g0th> then I can ask here :)
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, In other words you can run sudo fdisk -l and confirm the HD and put grub in the mbr no partition number.
[20:42] <reisio> services bot, nice
[20:42] <ThePendulum> reisio: Well, yes, once, on my own machine. The thing is, these files should are accessible to multiple mediaplayers in the house and they should just all play the English audio by default
[20:42] <usr13> ThePendulum: You might try Cinelerra.  the audio tracks will be
[20:42] <usr13> separated out.
[20:42] <reisio> ThePendulum: okay
[20:43] <ThePendulum> reisio: I appreciate your concern
[20:43] <reisio> ThePendulum: no, cinelerra is for professional video editing :p
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> reisio: the bot is awesome
[20:43] <reisio> ThePendulum: use ffmpeg, then, if you can't use mplayer :p
[20:43] <Vec_> wilee-nilee: How can i access the terminal at this point though?
[20:43] <reisio> ActionParsnip: I can't wait till I'm a battery
[20:43] <display1> Frig, I upgraded but still navigator.onLine doesn't work
[20:43] <Vec_> wilee-nilee: i got the two errors, then my "console" is "grub rescue>"
[20:43] <ThePendulum> reisio: Might as well try Cinelerra then :P I've been looking for a professional non-Windows video editor
[20:44] <Vec_> wilee-nilee: it does not recognise normal commands like echo
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> thependulum: there is one which has been used in oscar winning movies
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, Not sure on a server install, you could probably use supergrub to get in to the cli and reload grub to the mbr from there, or manually boot, or use a live cd to load grub.
[20:44] <ThePendulum> ActionParsnip: Do you happen to recall which one?
[20:44] <reisio> ThePendulum: it's for like _professional_ editing
[20:44] <reisio> ThePendulum: check it out by all means, but use ffmpeg for this problem :p
[20:44] <ThePendulum> reisio: Mind you, I am a semi-professional editor
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> thependulum: lightworks
[20:45] <reisio> ThePendulum: just saying
[20:45] <ThePendulum> reisio: I guess
[20:45] <ThePendulum> If I find the correct commands
[20:45] <reisio> ThePendulum: I already linked them to you
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> thependulum: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/oscar-winning-lightworks-open-source-video-editor-%E2%80%93is-coming-to-linux
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, You might just reinstall and make sure grub goes to the mbr.
[20:45] <Vec_> Ok.
[20:45] <reisio> ThePendulum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148243 exactly what you're after
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, Just one HD?
[20:46] <ThePendulum> reisio: Heh, thanks
[20:46] <Vec_> I cant remember seeing an option where i could place it in an MBR partition tho, the only showing partitions are the main one (ext4) and swap
[20:46] <Vec_> wilee-nilee: 2 hds in a raid, so kinda 1 hd
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, Ah, now you sat raid, I am no help there.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> say
[20:47] <Vec_> oh
[20:47] <jluc> 'o
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, Details are important, however I should of asked.
[20:47] <Vec_> wilee-nilee: but that shouldnt really matter should it tho? considering the install should regard the raid as 1 disk?
[20:47] <jluc> 'im using screencloud and like it except it takes allways about 10%CPU
[20:47] <Vec_> since the raid is set up in bios
[20:47] <jluc>  and sometime that's too much
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, No idea never used raid.
[20:47] <Vec_> ok
[20:48] <jluc> idont use upload options nor check for updates
[20:48] <Vec_> ok well ill try reinstalling and use my friggin eyes this time
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> jluc: what cpu grunt do you have?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> !raid
[20:48] <jluc> i have a intel core 2 duo 2Ghz
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Vec_, Not sure but the bots info might help.
[20:48] <jluc> pavilion dv6 1330sf
[20:49] <Vec_> ill take a look see
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> jluc: 10% is pretty reasonable, is it full screen?
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Vec_: FakeRAID, hardware RAID, or Sofware (MD) RAID?
[20:50] <jluc> no it does nothing : just waits for hotkey to call him for a screen capture
[20:50] <jluc> it should be 0% ActionParsnip
[20:50] <jluc> (or about)
[20:50] <jluc> imho
[20:51] <mop_> hiiii
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> jluc: never going to happen, its high data to capture the screen in real tine and spit it to a file. Think about what is happening and the data size etc. Think about what is happening
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> jluc: its a seriously data intensive action
[20:51] <jluc> yes i understand this during the capture
[20:51] <jluc> but the 10% is even when no capture is done
[20:51] <reisio> mop_: ohio
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> jluc: do you mean standard system load?
[20:52] <jluc> i look with htop
[20:52] <jluc> its 10% , sometime 20% sometime even 30% when doing nothing except waiting for a hotkey to call it
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> jluc: id use htop to check stuff. you could use a light desktop like LXDE to reduce load.
[20:54] <thebananafish> hey friends, I am trying to block an IP via iptables.  I have done this many times before but now when I add the range I need blocked it comes up as network-addr/24 in iptables
[20:54] <ThePendulum> How do I list the individual channels with avconv/ffmpeh?
[20:54] <ThePendulum> g
[20:54] <daftykins> ThePendulum: that's application support, not ubuntu support
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> thebananafish: you could use firestarter as a GUI to iptables
[20:55] <reisio> ThePendulum: it says in the post I linked :p
[20:55] <thebananafish> this is a headless server
[20:55] <thebananafish> I cant use a gui
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> thebananafish: gotcha, just checkin
[20:55] <ThePendulum> reisio: -1 doesn't work :(
[20:55] <thebananafish> Ive done this a bunch of times before I dont understand why iptables is showing this
[20:55] <reisio> ThePendulum: bah, that's a typo
[20:55] <reisio> ThePendulum: it's -i
[20:55] <ThePendulum> AH
[20:55] <reisio> silly newbs with their typos
[20:56] <reisio> if you only give it input (-i) and no output, it just outputs information
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> thebananafish: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/block-whole-ip-range-with-iptables-469432/
[20:57] <reisio> ThePendulum: are the russian and english channels different somehow?
[20:57] <reisio> ThePendulum: according to ffmpeg -i output, I mean
[20:59] <gordonjcp> can someone explain how shotwell is supposed to work to me, or point me in the direction of a more suitable channel to ask in?
[20:59] <ThePendulum> reisio: I just used the command from your link, and now the audio is sped up to insane speeds :P
[20:59] <PwnyCode_> kk
[20:59] <LulzFTW> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_,------,
[20:59] <LulzFTW> _-_-_-_-_-_-_-|   /\_/\
[20:59] <LulzFTW> -_-_-_-_-_-_-~|__( ^ .^) #Nyan
[20:59] <LulzFTW> _-_-_-_-_-_-_-""  ""
[20:59] <FloodBot1> LulzFTW: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <duelle> Hi, I would like to set up a local gateway to have some kind of subnet (@see: http://pastebin.com/U3eNUn2U ). My problem is, that the resolv.conf of the "gateway" is always reset and I cant find the other network members in my subnet. Can you give me a hint how to set up routing correctly?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: put images in ~/Pictures and then tell shotwell to scan for new images
[21:00] <PwnyCode_> is this like a gay chnnel
[21:00] <PwnyCode_> im looking for horny guys
[21:00] <smallfoot-> PwnyCode_, no this is ubuntu channel but am gay
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> looks like the idiot cage is open again
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> lol
[21:01] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: so although shotwell insists on opening when I plug in my camera, it's actually no use at all for dealing with the camera?
[21:01] <k1l_> dont mind the trolls. lets help people with ubuntu issues :)
[21:01] <smallfoot-> I'm having GPU lock ups on nouvoue since latest Mesa update :(
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: you probably have it set in automatic running options
[21:02] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: left to itself it will - after about ten minutes - triumphantly announce that it has imported one image from the camera
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: set the default action to open nautilus :-)
[21:03] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: no, I set it to do nothingh
[21:03] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: I'd still like to figure out of shotwell is actually useful for something
[21:04] <anonnumberanon> hi
[21:04] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: like many things in Ubuntu at the moment it seems to be broken and pointless
[21:04] <ThePendulum> reisio: Nevermind, got it working, thanks!
[21:05] <reisio> ThePendulum: what made the difference?
[21:05] <ThePendulum> reisio: Using ffmpeg instead of avconv :P I thought they were the same
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: i let it organise photos for viewing. thats all really. nothing fancy
[21:05] <ThePendulum> reisio: Since using ffmpeg recommends me to use avconv
[21:06] <reisio> yeah, 'cause your ffmpeg is really a "legacy" executable provided by libav
[21:06] <reisio> which is a silly fork of ffmpeg
[21:06] <duelle> Hi, I would like to set up a local gateway to have some kind of subnet (@see: http://pastebin.com/U3eNUn2U ). My problem is, that the resolv.conf of the "gateway" is always reset and I cant find the other network members in my subnet if I use their domain name. Can I change the way resolvconf updates the resolv.conf?
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> reisio  ThePendulum winFF is a nice front-end for avconv
[21:06] <ThePendulum> ah
[21:06] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: Well a front-end will probably take me too much time
[21:07] <display1> can I make chromium auto start and full screen on login?
[21:07] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: We're talking about 45 episodes here :P
[21:07] <reisio> the 'ff' in 'winff' actually stands for ffmpeg, not libav :p
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> :)
[21:07] <saiarcot895> display1: Yes; open up Startup Applications and add a new entry
[21:07] <reisio> display1: yes
[21:07] <ThePendulum> display1: You can make it auto start by adding it to the Startup Applications, which in i.e. Ubuntu 12.04 can be found under the little gear in the top right
[21:08] <display1> saiarcot895, reisio ThePendulum thx
[21:08] <display1> But what about full screen?
[21:08] <reisio> display1: do you need to keep people from exiting full screen?
[21:09] <ThePendulum> display1: What is your specific purpose?
[21:09] <display1> reisio, not necessarily, just need it to be full screen on its own, and stay that way as long as no user input
[21:09] <display1> ThePendulum, kiosk mode
[21:09] <reisio> well, kiosk is a term used more for fullscreen that users aren't allowed to escape from
[21:09] <reisio> not that the two can't overlap
[21:09] <saiarcot895> display1: What about chromeless mode?
[21:09] <saiarcot895> display1: It's not true fullscreen, though
[21:09] <johnjohn101> can mortals make ubuntu into kiosk mode?
[21:10] <ThePendulum> display1: I'd recommend installing compizconfig-settings-manager and look under Window Management if you can find anything. Please be careful, don't just fiddle around if you don't know what it is.
[21:10] <reisio> kiosk mode is equivalent to an OS that has had its legs cut out from under it
[21:10] <reisio> display1: you're saying --kiosk isn't enough?
[21:10] <ThePendulum> There is such thing as --kiosk?
[21:10] <display1> reisio, never new of it, let me try, 1 sec
[21:11] <mrtAkdeniz> Higuys
[21:11] <mrtAkdeniz> is there any mint channel on freenode?
[21:11] <xangua> !mint | mrtAkdeniz
[21:11] <display1> reisio, you area genius
[21:11] <display1> reisio, you are a genius
[21:11] <reisio> display1: ikr? :p
[21:11] <reisio> my area is a genius, too
[21:11] <HappyNewYear13> help, what's your favorite website to upload images for free and forever, and doesn't butcher the quality of the image after you upload it (like imgur does)?
[21:11] <ThePendulum> Over here, Chrome already starts more or less full-screen
[21:11] <ThePendulum> reisio: How does that make a difference, btw? :P
[21:11] <reisio> HappyNewYear13: imgur butchers the quality?
[21:11] <reisio> HappyNewYear13: are you using PNGs?
[21:12] <reisio> ThePendulum: what, --kiosk?
[21:12] <HappyNewYear13> reisio, yea, i uploaded a png and converted into a jpg
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> happynewyear13: dropbox public share folder
[21:12] <mrtAkdeniz> ubottu: irc.spotchat.org webpage 404
[21:12] <HappyNewYear13> reisio, ye
[21:12] <johnjohn101> i saw this.   http://nexxylove.tumblr.com/post/22690398464/ubuntu-web-kiosk-in-10-easy-steps
[21:12] <display1> ok, how  can I make the page refresh itself every min or so?
[21:12] <ThePendulum> reisio: Yes
[21:12] <HappyNewYear13> ActionParsnip, thanks
[21:12] <mrtAkdeniz> xangua: irc.spotchat.org
[21:12] <reisio> display1: potentially relevant: http://linux.about.com/od/gmr_howto/a/hwtgmr05t01.htm
[21:12] <saiarcot895> display1: That's in javascript/HTML
[21:12] <reisio> ThePendulum: you know what a kiosk is?
[21:12] <ThePendulum> reisio: No?
[21:12] <mrtAkdeniz> xangua: 404 webpage
[21:13] <xangua> mrtAkdeniz: it's not a webpage...
[21:13] <madprops> i dislike chrome's fullscreen
[21:13] <mrtAkdeniz> xangua: oh bro sorry, i connected there via chrome :D
[21:13] <reisio> ThePendulum: ever been to a Borders bookstore?
[21:13] <mrtAkdeniz> xangua: i m going to try via mIRC
[21:13] <stercor> How do I log out of Google?
[21:13] <ThePendulum> reisio: Never seen one in the Netherlands
[21:13] <madprops> stercor, you can't
[21:13] <ThePendulum> stercor: Where?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> mrtakdeniz: why mirc?
[21:13] <reisio> stercor: clear browser session, delete cookies
[21:14] <display1> reisio, thx
[21:14] <display1> saiarcot895, thx
[21:14] <reisio> ThePendulum: mmm
[21:14] <HappyNewYear13> ActionParsnip, what's the direct link for the  dropbox public share folder
[21:14] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip: is there any alternative?
[21:14] <Endafy> hey according to your wiki, you use app armor is this on by default?
[21:14] <reisio> ThePendulum: how about a library with a computer to look stuff up
[21:14] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip: im on windowzz
[21:14] <ThePendulum> reisio: I know what a kiosk is
[21:14] <reisio> ThePendulum: heh, ok
[21:14] <Endafy> mrtAkdeniz: time to switch to Linux
[21:14] <ThePendulum> reisio: Just not what --kiosk is supposed to do
[21:14] <stercor> There seems to be no logout option in iGoogle.
[21:14] <duelle> Is there a way to override the settings that resolvconf sets permanently?
[21:14] <reisio> ThePendulum: supposed to make it more suitable for use in a kiosk
[21:14] <mrtAkdeniz> Endafy: i already have mint on my pc
[21:14] <ThePendulum> stercor: What if you click on your profile pictore and click [Sign Out]?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> mrtakdeniz: then why ask in an ubuntu channel, your OS is supported in ##windows
[21:14] <saiarcot895> ThePendulum: it looks like you can't use F11, and you have to use Alt+F4 (?)
[21:14] <ThePendulum> reisio: But it starts up exactly the same over here, in semi-fullscreen :P
[21:14] <Endafy> mrtAkdeniz: Microsoft sold you out to the NSA and gave them full access to your PC
[21:15] <reisio> ThePendulum: can you access the menus/options?
[21:15] <mrtAkdeniz> on the other hand, my amd video card does not supported by ubuntu
[21:15] <mrtAkdeniz> so im using mint
[21:15] <ThePendulum> reisio: Yes
[21:15] <ThePendulum> reisio: It's just Chrome maximized :P
[21:15] <HappyNewYear13> ActionParsnip, i don't want sign in for dropbox
[21:15] <mrtAkdeniz> Endafy: i'm a big supporter of openSource and Linux
[21:15] <Endafy> mrtAkdeniz: yes it does, Mint is Ubuntu
[21:15] <ThePendulum> But it's already maximized when I start it up without the argument
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> happynewyear13: your right click menu shoukd have an entry, or use: dropbox puburl ~/Dropbox/Public/filename.jpg
[21:16] <mrtAkdeniz> Endafy: will we talk on private?
[21:16] <display1> saiarcot895, haha, you just do location.reload()
[21:16] <reisio> ThePendulum: maybe they aren't done with it :p
[21:16] <saiarcot895> ThePendulum, reisio: works for me
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> mrtakdeniz: doesnt matter. Its not Ubuntu support so is offtopic here
[21:16] <HappyNewYear13> what's your favorite website to upload webpages without registering?
[21:16] <HappyNewYear13> what's your favorite website to upload IMAGES without registering?
[21:16] <ThePendulum> saiarcot895: Lucky
[21:16] <Ari-Yang> /join #ubuntu-offtopic  to talk about non support stuff.
[21:16] <HappyNewYear13> *
[21:16] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[21:16] <mrtAkdeniz> guys, my ubuntu installations make me sick
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> happynewyear13: ubuntuone or imageshack maybe
[21:16] <HappyNewYear13> Ari-Yang, sorry, i forgot
[21:17] <Ari-Yang> no worries
[21:17] <HappyNewYear13> ActionParsnip, thanks again ActionParsnip
[21:17] <ThePendulum> mrtAkdeniz: Have you contacted your personal doctor?
[21:17] <ThePendulum> mrtAkdeniz: But really, why?
[21:17] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: lol
[21:17] <DolphinDream> great
[21:17] <saiarcot895> display1: nice, you just have to wrap it in a timer, I think
[21:17] <DolphinDream> lots of ubuntus here
[21:17] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: idk, on every installation it came with a pink screen
[21:17] <DolphinDream> anyone using ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:17] <reisio> saiarcot895: what does?
[21:17] <ThePendulum> mrtAkdeniz: A pink screen? Where?
[21:17] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: btw on 13.04 it turns into black screen
[21:17] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: after installation
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> dolphindream: many do
[21:18] <saiarcot895> reisio: chromium-browser --kiosk works
[21:18] <saiarcot895> for me
[21:18] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: there is only a black screen
[21:18] <display1> saiarcot895, like while(1){wait(1min); location.reload(); }
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> mrtakdeniz: not here, full desktop, full 3d
[21:18] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: and it's flashing.. when i connected a monitor to my laptop
[21:18] <DolphinDream> you kno when you click on a dock icon.. the windows corresponding to that application (if more are opened) they zoom out (expose style) to show all the windows ??
[21:18] <ThePendulum> mrtAkdeniz: Sounds like you have a very unfortunate set up with your GPU
[21:18] <saiarcot895> display1: perhaps, I'm not an expert on Javascript
[21:18] <DolphinDream> ActionParsnip, kewl..
[21:18] <display1> saiarcot895, thx for you help
[21:18] <reisio> saiarcot895: was ThePendulum who said it didn't do much (and not that it didn't "work"), not I
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> dolphindream: yeah to let you choose the app window....
[21:19] <mrtAkdeniz> ThePendulum: when i connected a monitor, it gives display, btw i cannot click anything on the screen
[21:19] <DolphinDream> why is it that the zoomed out windows show images pixelated?
[21:19] <saiarcot895> reisio: I know, I just included you.
[21:19] <domino14> sudo unattended-upgrade is just hanging
[21:19] <domino14> what do i do?
[21:19] <d4rkn30> Anyone know how to set up the sources.list on a server box for it to autodetect the best mirror to download from
[21:19] <reisio> saiarcot895: k...
[21:19] <DolphinDream> i want to see the nice version of the original.. not an ugly pixelated version of the original that i cannot even distinguish what it is
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> dolphindream: its a preview, you may be able to change quality in ccsm or unity tweak
[21:20] <reisio> d4rkn30: http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-select-fastest-mirror-in-debian.html
[21:20] <DolphinDream> ActionParsnip, where?
[21:20] <d4rkn30> reisio, thanks
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> dolphondream: well, ubuntu tweak for Precise
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> dolphindream: in ccsm, like i said
[21:20] <tsunamie> I think I foobared my server. I tried doing a do-release-upgrade and now it seems it was interupted in the middle of it and pwoered off. Now when I turn the machine on it asks me to do a do-release-upgrade. when I try it tells me the same erro shown in the post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767358
[21:21] <DolphinDream> ActionParsnip, oh.. did not know ccsm is compiz
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> tsunamie: boot to root recovery mode
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | tsunamie
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> dolpindream: yes as it manages the windows, so makes sense
[21:25] <DolphinDream> ActionParsnip, :( no quality setting
[21:26] <reisio> DolphinDream: if it looked perfect, it'd take much longer to render
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> dolphindream: ask in #ccsm too
[21:27] <tking> ActionParsnip, i am picking on you today... what are you? Channel owner, maybe... but you know everything like Linus Trovalds, for months i are here dailly answering everything... are you a perfect robot emulating human brain?
[21:27] <tking> lol
[21:27] <tking> u are here ***********
[21:27] <daftykins> *torvalds
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> tking: just a regular irc user and ubuntu member
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> tking: im sure the stiff you do in windows would impress new windows users etc
[21:29] <tking> ActionParsnip, great, everytime you write something i learn... "ubuntu member" new stuff learning let me google that and see maybe i will be like you
[21:30] <holstein> !membership
[21:30] <tsunamie> ActionParsnip - I have it's still fooked
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> tking: keep using the OS and you'll learn
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> tking: thats all I did
[21:30] <fgfgw> hey what do you do when a command option has a ; in it?
[21:30] <tking> ActionParsnip, windows == Gui and linux ==  thousands of programs with millions of commands
[21:31] <fgfgw> how do i cancel it out so it doesnt think im doing say command; next command
[21:31] <reisio> fgfgw: good question
[21:31] <craniumslows> fgfgw: does the \ command properly escape it?
[21:31] <tking> ActionParsnip, and you know them 80% by heart
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> tking: windows can be cli, not used server much I guess
[21:31] <craniumslows> not command but escape character
[21:31] <craniumslows> or fgfgw you can use quotes
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> fgfgw: escape ot with \
[21:31] <tsunamie> ActionParsnip - once I am on the command line what do I do?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | tsunamie
[21:32] <reisio> think he's saying he already ran it
[21:32] <tsunamie> ActionParsnip - it won't let me connect to anything on the network. is there a rolle back command to before the"do-release-upgrade"?
[21:32] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know what libxatracker1 is? google has been unhelpful
[21:33] <mong> Whiskey`Wonka: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/oneiric/main/base/libxatracker1
[21:33] <Whiskey`Wonka> mong: thanks
[21:33] <mong> (first result found by googling) :)
[21:33] <fgfgw> trying
[21:34] <tking> ActionParsnip, sure about windows, but when you hear windows no much panic as a beginner but Linus, you hear ooh terminal, commands, scary
[21:34] <Joris> Hey everyone
[21:34] <tking> stuff
[21:34] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip bro u gave me a link for Mint.. but i forgot
[21:34] <mrtAkdeniz> !mint | mrtakdeniz
[21:34] <fgfgw> so ;\*************
[21:34] <fgfgw> ?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> fgfgw: eg: grep \; /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:34] <fgfgw> its for nmcli
[21:34] <fgfgw> its part of my password :/
[21:34] <Joris> Does anyone know how you add something to kernel? I have issues with screen flickering, and one of the solutions mentioned "add ... to kernel"
[21:34] <reisio> Joris: add what?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> fgfgw: the command I gave searches the file for the semicolon character
[21:35] <Joris> "Adding "video=SVIDEO-1:d" to the kernel command line also fixed this issue for me."
[21:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> huh i wonder why i have that, dont remember seeeing it before and i dont use vmware on this laptop
[21:36] <fgfgw> yeah i know :/
[21:36] <reisio> Whiskey`Wonka: it's not vmware specific, AIUI
[21:36] <fgfgw> so what should i do? i need to use nmcli and i cant change the password
[21:36] <Whiskey`Wonka> reisio: aah, the description made it sound that way
[21:36] <Spr1ng> How do I install a package from source using apt-get?
[21:37] <Whiskey`Wonka> hmm, ok why in the buggers is the updates going 'can not verify source' ??
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, sudp apt-get install "package"
[21:37] <reisio> Whiskey`Wonka: vmware uses it is all, AIUI
[21:37] <Spr1ng> But from source, so it compiles
[21:37] <reisio> fgfgw: hrmm?
[21:37] <Joris> from source? Just "cd" into the folder, use "make" to build it, then "make install" to install it.
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, Sorry sudo
[21:38] <Spr1ng> Joris: thx
[21:38] <Joris> Cannot verify source? I had that same error. Just updated aptitude by "sudo apt-get update", and that solved it for me.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, Ah, I thought you meant the sources list, are you sure you need to is the pckg in the repos maybe?
[21:38] <fgfgw> got it!
[21:38] <fgfgw> thanks!
[21:38] <reisio> fgfgw: yeah?
[21:39] <Joris> So, does anyone know the solution to my problem?
[21:39] <reisio> Joris: in your grub config
[21:39] <reisio> Joris: hold shift while you boot up, you can edit it
[21:39] <reisio> Joris: it's telling you to add it to the line with 'kernel' in it
[21:39] <kingofabsinthe> ьо
[21:39] <kingofabsinthe> Привет
[21:39] <kingofabsinthe> Привет
[21:39] <reisio> Joris: preceded by a space, of course
[21:39] <Joris> And where would I find the config file for grub?
[21:39] <kingofabsinthe> есть кто?
[21:39] <FloodBot1> kingofabsinthe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <reisio> Joris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 knows, but you can do what I just said to try it once
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> !ru
[21:40] <Spr1ng> wilee-nilee: I'm trying to install request tracker 4, but there's no apt-get package for the latest version. (there is for version 4.0.4 which is rather outdated).  So next best option is to install from source and from what people have been telling me, it's a bad idea to upgrade a program from source if it was installed using apt-get
[21:40] <Whiskey`Wonka> Joris: ah yup, another thing CLI does better then the GUI does
[21:40] <Whiskey`Wonka> there were updates for the sources but the GUI wasnt seeing them
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, I understand, have you check PPA's, and I did not instruct you to update from a source.
[21:41] <Spr1ng> I don't know what a PPA is / how to use it.
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> !ppa
[21:41] <mong> Joris: this may also help -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[21:42] <Joris> The word "kernel" appears in that file only twice, both times in a sentence (in comments)
[21:42] <reisio> Joris: in what file?
[21:43] <reisio> Joris: oh right
[21:43] <reisio> Joris: the line that starts with 'linux'
[21:43] <reisio> used to be 'kernel' before GRUB2
[21:43] <reisio> additionaly, /boot/vmlinuz... is your actual kernel file (or a symlink to it)
[21:43] <Joris> Thanks, found it.
[21:44] <reisio> additionalllllly
[21:44] <Joris> Now going to  test it. I'll let you guys know how it went :)
[21:44] <reisio> g'luck
[21:44] <Spr1ng> wilee-nilee: No such package found for request tracker 4 in PPA's. :(
[21:44] <mong> ... and he was never heard from again
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, Yeah I saw that.
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, I saw a deb, but am not familiar with what it is, or what's in the repo or you want is all.
[21:46] <reisio> wilee-nilee: .deb's are sort of like .exe or .msi installers on Windows, only more sensible
[21:46] <zoktar> is there an easy way to list installed packages that do not exist in sources.list or enabled ppa repos ?.
[21:46] <reisio> zoktar: that you didn't install via dpkg/apt/software center ?
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Really, lol. ;)
[21:46] <zoktar> well sort of yeah
[21:46] <Spr1ng> wilee-nilee: Can you send me a link that you found?
[21:46] <reisio> zoktar: like with make install?
[21:47] <saiarcot895> zoktar: In Synaptic, there is the Local filter
[21:47] <zoktar> no no debs
[21:47] <reisio> zoktar: debs should show up in dpkg -l, no?
[21:47] <zoktar> its a downgrade thing
[21:47] <reisio> wilee-nilee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_%28file_format%29
[21:47] <reisio> zoktar: hrmm?
[21:47] <zoktar> removed ppa's
[21:47] <zoktar> without purging
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Dud I have been using for 7 yeras I'm not a noob.
[21:48] <zoktar> so wrong package versions installed. thats why i want to see what packages are installed that are not in standard repos
[21:48] <zoktar> +active ppas
[21:48] <reisio> wilee-nilee: oh you were saying you weren't familiar with that _particular_ deb
[21:48] <reisio> good ole English
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Not the tracker 4 app. ;)
[21:49] <reisio> ?
[21:49] <madprops> wilee-nilee, you can install debs with dpkg
[21:49] <reisio> wilee-nilee: heh
[21:49] <Amin> why is it that i have 3 online account icons
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, Here is the link not sure what is there. http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/raring/universe/base/request-tracker4
[21:50] <Amin> im using gnome 3.8
[21:50] <saiarcot895> zoktar: aptitude and Synaptic list locally-installed packages
[21:50] <aitor> hello, there is the help channel for ubuntu?
[21:50] <aitor> *this is sorry
[21:50]  * wilee-nilee wonders why all of a sudden I'm being schooled... geez
[21:50] <madprops> aitor yes it's called #gentoo
[21:50] <reisio> aitor: there is, and this is it
[21:50] <zoktar> saiarcot895, thanks ill investigate
[21:50] <saiarcot895> zoktar: but it doesn't list packages that *are* in Ubuntu, but a different version
[21:50] <Spr1ng> Thanks wilee-nilee, looks like that's outdated too.  It's a real pity the developers of RT couldn't be bothered making an deb package for it.
[21:50] <saiarcot895> As far as I know
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, Figured as such.
[21:51] <aitor> ok, thank you, i have a problem installing ubuntu on my portatil, i have mint in my destopk pc and it worked well but i can't load my portatil from cd neither can i load the bios :S
[21:51] <Amin> how can i remove unity and stay only on gnome ?
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> Amin, unity is a plugin in compiz running on gnome 3
[21:51] <reisio> !notunity
[21:51] <reisio> Amin: ^
[21:52] <daftykins> aitor: what's your native language? there might be a specific channel for you
[21:52] <madprops> aitor, #ubuntu-es
[21:52] <Amin> well Wilee-nilee
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Amin, What gnome do you want gnome2 gnome3 the fallback or the gnome-shell
[21:52] <Amin> i seem to have something messed up in my system cuz i have 3 different onilne accounts in my dash !
[21:52] <aitor> -.- why did you know i was Spanish? that bad is my English? lol you will make me feel depressed ahah, but ok, i will enter there
[21:52] <Amin> im using gnome 3.8 which is the one i want
[21:53] <andrewSC> hi all, is there someone fluent here in VPSes and ubuntu 12.10 and tun ?
[21:53] <reisio> aitor: /whois aitor gives away your IP
[21:53] <daftykins> !es | aitor
[21:53] <reisio> aitor: additionally, your nick is a spanish name
[21:53] <Amin> but why dont i get notifications with the friends-app ? and why do i have 3 online accounts? and how can i integrate the chat client?
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Amin, YOu want the gnome-shell or the fallback, I would not worry about unity it s tiny don't use it.
[21:53] <aitor> ok, i'm there in the ubuntu spanish channel but there is few people
[21:53] <Spr1ng> Can somebody make a recommendation for what they use for their ticketing / helpdesk system.  I've been looking at RT (Request Tracker) and experienced one problem after another so I'm looking at alternatives.  Would appreciate any info on this.
[21:53] <aitor> did you understand when i told you my problem?
[21:53] <Amin> i want the shell
[21:54] <reisio> aitor: you don't have to leave here, it was just someone's idea that you might do better in -es
[21:54] <aitor> it's installing ubuntu with the live cd
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> Amin, And you have that installed right?
[21:54] <madprops> aitor, how are you trying to load the cd?
[21:55] <Amin> well i had ubuntu 12.04
[21:55] <Amin> and i upgraded twice to reach now raring
[21:55] <Amin> and i installed gnome
[21:55] <aitor> i follow what it says, i mean, restarting from entering the live cd mode
[21:55] <Amin> the system broke a while ago i managed to fix it
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Amin, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[21:55] <aitor> but the windows 8 it cames from factory always load and i can't never enter the bios nor the ubuntu cd plays
[21:55] <Amin> already installed wilee
[21:56] <Amin> wait let me show u where my problem lies
[21:56] <Amin> give me a sec
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> upgrades can be problematic, I always fresh install, much faster.
[21:56] <xjkx> If I put a 64 bits processor now, will my already installed ubuntu, load ?
[21:56] <saiarcot895> aitor: I think you have to do a force-shutdown on WIndows 8
[21:56] <madprops> aitor usually there is a key to show the boot menu while the computer is restarting, try something like F2 or F8 or F10 or Tab or Escape one of those should be
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> madprops, shift
[21:56] <reisio> xjkx: what does 'uname -a' say?
[21:57] <saiarcot895> madprops: Windows 8 has this semi-shutdown state or something
[21:57] <xjkx> reisio: I'm not on ubuntu right now...but it is 32 bits, I never used 64 bits of anything
[21:57] <aitor> yes i have tried all of them but it does not work :S and it's not any key saying what it is the bios option, those portatils made with windows 8 i think are made against people using other OS :( their OS is that bad they have to use unfair tricks to keep people using it
[21:57] <Amin> ok any idea how i can backup all my data and reinstall cuz i have a bunch of data i dont wanna lose
[21:57] <superboot> Hi all. I'm running 12.04 and am looking to install Dancer IRCD per this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD
[21:58] <reisio> xjkx: the installation would work, yes
[21:58] <reisio> xjkx: unless you changed the hardware significantly enough to require your kernel to be modified to support it
[21:58] <saiarcot895> aitor: In Windows 8: try opening the command prompt and typing in "shutdown.exe -s -t 1"
[21:58] <superboot> The dancer-services package doesn't seem to be available anymore. Any hints?
[21:58] <xjkx> reisio: my arch linux says "Linux secret 3.9.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jun 20 23:22:07 CEST 2013", you think it will load ? I'll need at least one system working lol
[21:58] <reisio> xjkx: but you'd be missing out on 64-bit software
[21:58] <saiarcot895> aitor: That should shut down Windows
[21:58] <saiarcot895> aitor: Then, you should be able to get to the BIOS and choose to start up from the CD Drive
[21:58] <xjkx> reisio: I'll install 64 bits later, I'll need a working system for the more emergencial needs
[21:58] <reisio> xjkx: it might, but x86 vs x86_64 won't really be a factor
[21:59] <xjkx> reisio: wont do you mean be a factor ?
[21:59] <aitor> ok, i'm trying saiarcot, i'll tell you if it doesn't go well what fails, thanks
[21:59] <domino14> sudo unattended-upgrade is just hanging
[21:59] <domino14> hlep
[21:59] <superboot> xjkx: It will have neglagible effect.
[22:00] <superboot> ^negligible
[22:00] <xjkx> superboot:  Small effect I can deal
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Amin, You can save the data on another partition or external.
[22:01] <superboot> xjkx: "won't really be a factor" = "Small effect" or "Don't worry about it"
[22:01] <JuPaname> irc://irc.JuPaname.fr
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Amin, Do you have a separate home?
[22:02] <aitor> ok i think my problem is my portatil has secure boot, how can i disable it?
[22:02] <daftykins> aitor: why can't you get into the BIOS? F2/delete not work?
[22:03] <aitor> no, no key works -.-
[22:04] <saiarcot895> aitor: Assuming Microsoft has their allowed key in the whitelist, I think you'll have to go into the Live CD, install Boot Repair, and mark the Secure Boot option
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> aitor, Is portatil your computer?
[22:04] <aitor> but what live cd? i cannot boot from a cd, the windows boots directly, i have the live ubuntu cd on and it works in the destopk pc but not in the portatil, it doesn't boot from cd if i don't change it in the bios
[22:04] <daftykins> aitor: what brand + model is it?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | aitor
[22:05] <madprops> wilee-nilee, portatil means portable/laptop
[22:05] <aitor> sorry, portatil means laptop yes, thought it was the same here
[22:05] <hansnn> Hey! I'm trying to open my galaxy s4 on ubuntu 12.04 but I keep getting errors like: "Error initializing camera:-1: Unspecified error". How can I diagnose this? Thank you
[22:05] <aitor> and i'm with my destokp now, here i use mint, but i want to try ubuntu in the laptop
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> aitor, if you have a secureboot (uefi) check the bots info and this tips thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[22:08] <aitor> ok my laptop is a Asus X55C-SX008H, sounds somewhat complicated that of the UEFI, really there's no way to open the bios?
[22:08] <madprops> did you try F2 while rebooting the way saiarcot895 told you
[22:09] <saiarcot895> madprops: actually, daftykins said that
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> aitor, Have you tried the delet key on powering on?
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> delete
[22:10] <aitor> yes, and it does nothing, just the same, the windows always load itself, and i'm pretty sure the cd is well since in my pc works really fine
[22:10] <madprops> saiarcot895, I meant the shutdown thing from windows
[22:10] <daftykins> aitor: the usual keys really should work to allow entering the BIOS. maybe you're not pressing it enough times early on enough, or maybe you need to power off - then power on and try it
[22:11] <aitor> yes i have tried all the fX keys and power off and on many many times, and then delete options, idk, i will keep trying or look into the internet if someone has the same problem
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> aitor, Call the manufacturer or search the web, computers can have funky keys needed to real the bios and other functions setup by the bios makers and the manufacturers
[22:11] <saiarcot895> aitor: You might want to see the link the bot posted above (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI)
[22:11] <madprops> aitor, are you restarting your computer with "shutdown.exe -s -t 1"
[22:12] <zoktar> saiarcot895, force version in synaptic worked, sadly only one package at a time.
[22:14] <aitor> shutdown.exe -s -t 1 does not restart it, just shutdown, then if i start again the same, i press f2 or Supr or any other but it don't work, i will call asus
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> from the shutdown, what's the difference between halted, powered off and brought down ,
[22:16] <bekks> aitor: shutdown.exe -s is supposed to shutdown. -r is supposed to restart. Everything works as expected.
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> from the shutdown manpage , what's the difference between halted, powered off and brought down ?
[22:17] <aitor> ok, then it should be shutdown.exe -s -r 1?
[22:17] <reisio> shutdown.exe? :)
[22:17] <bekks> aitor: No. Either -s (shutdown) or -r (reboot).
[22:17] <reisio> or just 'reboot'
[22:17] <aitor> i will try tomorrow, late here now and i can't still access the bios, thank you guys, i hope i will be an ubuntu user soon :)
[22:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:22] <Vec_> Hey guys, i am installing ubuntu server. I am running a BIOS-raid mirror (fakeraid). I am at the point where i choose where to install the GRUB boot loader. Where do i install it? Under /dev/mapper/{array name}?
[22:22] <Vec_> or just /dev/sda ?
[22:23] <madprops> Vec_, #ubuntu-server
[22:23] <g_byers> does it now macwolf74 ^_^
[22:23] <Ari-Yang> is editing /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile safe?
[22:23] <Ari-Yang> atm the file power_profile is default
[22:23] <macwolf74> ?
[22:23] <Ari-Yang> according to this page: "default" uses the default clocks and does not change the power state. This is the default behavior.
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#KMS_Power_Management_Options
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> atm my laptop temp is 77 degrees c and it isn't doing anything at all
[22:24] <Spec-Chum> Vec_: I would guess, as the raid is BIOS, that it'll just see the disks as /dev/sda
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> will editing /sys/calss/drm/card0/device/power_profile really make a difference?
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> has anyone tried this?
[22:26] <Vec_> Spec-Chum: Ok. I came across this http://askubuntu.com/questions/43036/how-do-i-install-grub-on-a-raid-system-installation stating in a reply that i need to do the /dev/mapper/[arayname]
[22:26] <Vec_> thing is i have like 4 of em, im guessing the top (alphabetical) is the one to choose
[22:26] <Vec_> unless its straight up /dev/sda
[22:27] <Vec_> i dno, i have to reinstall again if i fuck up here so ><
[22:27] <reisio> Vec_: what's the raid for?
[22:27] <Vec_> mirroring 2 disks
[22:27] <reisio> Vec_: what for
[22:27] <Vec_> for redundancy, backup
[22:27] <reisio> that's not what raid is for
[22:27] <IdleOne> Vec_: no swearing in here please
[22:27] <Vec_> IdleOne: 10-4
[22:28] <crond> depends on the kind of raid
[22:28] <reisio> no it doesn't
[22:28] <crond> reisio, I insist that you're wrong.
[22:28] <Vec_> reisio: At this point im just interested in trying to actually get my server up. I started learning ubuntu today so i want it working so i can actually do stuff
[22:28] <reisio> crond: insist all you like
[22:28] <reisio> Vec_: fair enough
[22:29] <Vec_> Ok well, who bets its just /dev/sda, and who bets it's not? (fakeraid/biosraid)
[22:29] <bekks> RAID isnt for backup, never.
[22:29] <crond> reisio, how does raid-0 give redundancy?
[22:29] <reisio> crond: you tell me
[22:29] <crond> reisio, my point is it doesnt.
[22:29] <reisio> crond: nope, that's my point
[22:29] <crond> thats my point too
[22:30] <reisio> glad we're all on the same page, though
[22:30] <crond> lol
[22:30] <reisio> not unless you misread something :)
[22:30] <gordonjcp> uh
[22:30] <crond> yes. I must have :D
[22:30] <reisio> that's three of us who understand what raid is for, and then there's Vec_ :)
[22:30] <gordonjcp> RAID0 most certainly *does* give redundancy
[22:30] <gordonjcp> oh no, wait
[22:30] <crond> gordonjcp, no, the data is striped without parity.
[22:30] <reisio> redundancy, but not the kind anyone looking for redundancy is after
[22:30] <gordonjcp> I'm thinking of RAID1, sorry
[22:30] <gordonjcp> disregard I soak cakes
[22:30]  * genii slides gordonjcp a coffee
[22:31] <reisio> doesn't matter, raid as it's used today is not about redundacy, but availability
[22:31] <crond> yeah, about all raid0 can do is maybe give a speed boost in disk access times
[22:31] <gordonjcp> genii: thanks, but it's bedtime
[22:31] <reisio> 0 or otherwise
[22:31] <gordonjcp> crond: which is quite often fine
[22:31] <reisio> Vec_: so what was the problem, again?
[22:31] <crond> gordonjcp, yeah, cept for the increased possibility of data loss with 2 potential failure points.
[22:31] <gordonjcp> crond: you may want to stripe and have *no* redundancy because you might want to go as fast as you possibly can
[22:31] <gordonjcp> crond: <shrug<
[22:31] <gordonjcp> crond: what if you don't care about that, you only care about going as fast as possible?
[22:32] <Vec_> reisio: The problem is that i have to install my GRUB boot loader somewhere where it will work
[22:32] <crond> gordonjcp, then raid-0 some SSDs! ;)
[22:32] <reisio> that is a problem
[22:32] <gordonjcp> crond: yup
[22:32] <gordonjcp> crond: reeeeealllly fast
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> a SSD is a good option for speed
[22:32] <gordonjcp> it is *now*
[22:32] <Vec_> I have a bios raid, so im not sure where the bootloader goes
[22:32] <reisio> heh, 'cause SSDs don't fail fast enough normally :p
[22:32] <abyss42> Suppose if I have 1 master and 1000 minions, do i have to manually install salt on all those 1000 minions?
[22:32] <gordonjcp> a few years ago, not so much
[22:32] <gordonjcp> abyss42: are you talking about installing stuff on many many machines?
[22:32] <gordonjcp> abyss42: look into puppet
[22:33] <beboj> does it make sens to create swap partition using 8 gb ram ?
[22:33] <reisio> beboj: not really no
[22:33] <abyss42> gordonjcp, no I am new to salt, and I was just thinking, if i have 1 master and 1000 minions, do the minions need to have salt installed as well?
[22:33] <reisio> beboj: unless you plan to hibernate 8GBs of data to it
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> beboj, Only if you need it or will hibernate
[22:33] <reisio> only if you need it, heh :p
[22:34] <beboj> kk
[22:34] <beboj> :P
[22:34] <Guest47079> www.avsanplastik.com
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> I have seen users with apps that will hit the swappiness most don't
[22:34] <saiarcot895> Vec_: with zero experience and very limited knowledge, I'm betting /dev/mapper/{top one}
[22:34] <crond> beboj, if you're going to hibernate, make a swap of the same size as your ram
[22:35] <saiarcot895> Vec_: regardless, I would suggest having a Live CD in case something goes wrong; you can then use Boot Repair or something else
[22:35] <beboj> crond:thx
[22:35] <Vec_> saiarcot895: thanks a bunch, yeah i have my livecd here ^^
[22:36] <Vec_> the guys in ubuntu-server said the same thing btw
[22:36] <Vec_> And then on to the next Q: I entered busybox with (cntrl-alt-f2) during install. Now i cant get back to the install. Help? ^^
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> Guest47079, Don't spam the channel.
[22:37] <bekks> Vec_: ctrl+alt+f1
[22:37] <Vec_> bekks: ty
[22:38] <Vec_> so, grub bootloader will now be installed @ /dev/mapper/<arrayname> ? or with /dev/mapper/<arrayname>/
[22:39]  * Vec_ please bear with me, started today ><
[22:39] <bekks> Vec_: Is it a RAID1 array?
[22:39] <Vec_> yeah, mirroring
[22:40] <bekks> Vec_: You have to install it to both underlying disks, since the mbr isnt mirror most likely.
[22:41] <Vec_> :[
[22:41] <Vec_> Well, at any rate im trying this now before im off to bed
[22:42] <display1> you know the arora web browser, how to maximize it on launch
[22:42] <Vec_> bekks: It worked! :D
[22:42] <bekks> Vec_: Of course ;)
[22:43] <Vec_> hehe
[22:44] <MrKeuner> is it possible to forward music output from my Android phone to ubuntu desktop? Just like how my car audio system behaves?
[22:45] <MrKeuner> dekstop has bluetooth but it seems like all i can do with it is to transfer files
[22:45] <Spec-Chum> Vec_: glad you got it working buddy, sorry my guess was wrong :/
[22:46] <Vec_> Spec-Chum: ^_^ no worries, a guess is better than what i had.
[22:47] <Vec_> Well this is going to be fun, learning this OS that is. Hopefully ill get it to share files and a printer relativly soon. Seems to be tons of tons of good docs on the intertubes.
[22:47] <Vec_> Good night everyone, thanks for outstanding help throughout the day <3
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> MrKeuner, I saw a googleplay app offered here a couple of days ago, I forget the name though, there is airdroid, but this other app seemed better.
[22:48] <banjo> oh
[22:48] <MrKeuner> wilee-nilee, so it is a matter of app on the ubuntu side?
[22:49] <JRicketts_> Looking for a good guide on how to setup static ip with a router and modem being bridged. I can access test pag le but only in network.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> MrKeuner, airdroid is at google play you just link with wireless, so was the other.
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> MrKeuner, YOU might try #android for help as well.
[22:50] <xangua> MrKeuner: i got that option with blueman, havent realized default bluetooth manager doesn't have it
[22:51] <display1> is it possible to put inside startup application, just to enter f11?
[22:51] <bprompt> MrKeuner:    there are some apps for Android that'd make the device a "server" with some url for any device to connect to it wirelessly
[22:51] <xangua> MrKeuner: to set the pc as audio outpout for the phone...can't test it right now also because cyanogenmod seems to have issues with bluetooth
[22:51] <saiarcot895> display1: I don't think so
[22:52] <usr13> display1: What application?
[22:52] <saiarcot895> display1: it accepts anything you can do from Terminal
[22:52] <MrKeuner> bprompt, wilee-nilee my car works with the default music player. Must be something on the ubuntu desktop side
[22:52] <MrKeuner> xangua, will try blueman
[22:52] <display1> usr13, Arora web browser
[22:52] <display1> saiarcot895, I see what you mean
[22:52] <usr13> display1: If it is like firefox, it will open in the state it was last closed, (by default).
[22:53] <display1> usr13, thx
[22:53] <display1> usr13, let see
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> MrKeuner, Your car running linux.
[22:53] <display1> usr13, you are correct
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:54] <MrKeuner> wilee-nilee, I am sure it is a form of Linux ;)
[22:54] <MrKeuner> just the default bluetooth audio system
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> MrKeuner, Probably, all I have seen which is not much as far as forwarding is having access to the android device and using a player in ubuntu. I never forward music though.
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> MrKeuner, If you plug it in does it mount, and or you want this as unattached?
[22:58] <MrKeuner> xangua, red experimental disclaimer on blueman for audio support is intimidating a bit but I'll try
[23:00] <Dante93> Hi
[23:00] <MrKeuner> nope, blueman couldn't do it either. My laptop asked if I should authorize the phone for audio and I did authorize but connection did not go through
[23:00] <MrKeuner> xangua, ^
[23:02] <Tapper> hey guys! does anyone know how to format FAT with gnome-disk-utility
[23:03] <hansnn> Hi! According to 'lsusb', my 12.04 thinks that my galaxy s4 is a galaxy s2. This is probably the reason why I get errors when I try to enter the phones file system via ubuntu. I can't find any help on google, so I appreciate your help!
[23:03] <Tapper> NVM found it
[23:04] <mong> hansnn: are you sure that usb mass storage is enabled on the galaxy s4?
[23:04] <hansnn> mong: No I am not. I have never heard of such a thing
[23:05] <hansnn> Usually with my phones it's just 'plug and play right away'
[23:05] <mong> hansnn: first make sure it is enabled as shown here: http://www.android.gs/enable-the-usb-mass-storage-for-samsung-galaxy-s4/
[23:05] <hansnn> thanks for the ling mong
[23:05] <hansnn> link
[23:06] <JaceP> i'm trying to have a program start at startup, and it needs to start in a terminal
[23:06] <JaceP> my startup command goes something like:  gnome-terminal -e "/home/blah blah/myprogram.sh"
[23:06] <JaceP> it's choking on the fact there's a space in the path, even though i've quoted it properly. ideas?
[23:06] <bekks> JaceP: how did you quote it?
[23:07] <Jordan_U> hansnn: There are two ways to access data stored on the phone's SD card, USB Mass Storage (where the phone umounts the SD card itself, and acts like an external drive) and MTP (where the phone keeps the SD card mounted and transfers files through a file transfer protocol).
[23:07] <JaceP> just as typed there
[23:07] <bekks> JaceP: Thats improperly quoted.
[23:07] <JaceP> is it?
[23:07] <ivanelson> How do I configure MTA by postfix?
[23:07] <bekks> JaceP: This would be properly: gnome-terminal -e "/home/blah\ blah/myprogram.sh"
[23:07] <Jordan_U> hansnn: When using USB Mass Storage mode your phone will act exactly like an external drive, so no phone specific functionality is required by the OS or programs.
[23:07] <bekks> JaceP: You need a "\" before the whitespace.
[23:08] <ivanelson> The postfix is already installed and running. I can not send messages at the prompt.
[23:08] <hansnn> Jordan_U: I see
[23:09] <JaceP> i don't see why the quotes are necessary if that's the case
[23:09] <hansnn> Jordan_U: That seems neat. However I am thinking about developing android apps, so this might not be what I want in the long run
[23:09] <benbloom> is there a command line way of seeing how long a program has been running (real time not CPU time)
[23:12] <hansnn> mong do I have to root the device for UMS to work? I'm guessing I won't be able to test my own android apps on the device via UMS?
[23:12] <JaceP> bekks: i have done what you said, still no success
[23:12] <JaceP> i no longer get an error. now i just don't get anything at all
[23:17] <JaceP> bekks: solved, thanks
[23:18] <hansnn> Jordan_U: Problem solved by using usb2.0 in stead of 3.0 . lsusb still sais galaxy sII, but it works:)
[23:19] <blackshirt> good morning all
[23:24] <stef1a> is there a way to make xorg.conf work dynamically, so I can boot up with a VGA plugged in -- or not -- and I'll get the right resolutions on my monitors with no problems?
[23:24] <stef1a> at the moment, with my current xorg.conf, i can only boot with one configuration
[23:26] <daftykins> stef1a: it's supposed to be automatic as normal
[23:26] <daftykins> stef1a: you normally don't even need a xorg.conf
[23:27] <maddy_pmg> hi
[23:28] <daftykins> welcome
[23:30] <Spec-Chum> benbloom: did you figure it?
[23:31] <Spec-Chum> I've been playing to found out lol
[23:31] <maddy_pmg> need help ati grap card installation problem
[23:31] <daftykins> maddy_pmg: are you following the recommended method?
[23:31] <maddy_pmg> dafft : like ?
[23:32] <daftykins> !ati | maddy_pmg
[23:36] <maddy_pmg> me using Radeon hd 54*** series i downloded the drivers from ati site. after installing and rebooting getting blank screen
[23:36] <Spec-Chum> maddy_pmg: I think you might need legacy driver for that
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> oh?
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> I'm curious too, because I have hd 5400
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, maybe you should try installing fglrx from Additional Driver tab from software sources?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> seeing how ubuntu approved of it
[23:37] <maddy_pmg> spec : where can i find ?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> I wouldn't trust installing from the official site
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> fglrx does support hd 54xxx cards
[23:38] <maddy_pmg> ari : okay i'll try that one
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, make sure you uninstall the one from amd site first
[23:38] <bellasbells> 5000 is not legacy
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> what bellasbells said
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> 2xxx - 4xxx for Ubuntu
[23:39] <bellasbells> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/catalyst126legacyproducts.aspx
[23:39] <bellasbells> ^^ official AMD report of why 5000 is not legacy
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, uninstall the current one (assuming you haven't), then install it form Additional Drivers tab
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> reboot
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, let me know how it works out
[23:39] <bellasbells> only 4000 and lower is
[23:39] <maddy_pmg> ari : sure
[23:39] <Spec-Chum> bellasbells: I stand corrected :)
[23:40] <grkblood> where is the adobe flash binary that firefox uses?
[23:40] <grkblood> i cant find it in firefox's settings
[23:40] <maddy_pmg> ari : i did uninstlled even its not working. let me try what u given
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, okay, you know where Additional Drivers is right? it's a tab in software sources
[23:41] <maddy_pmg> ari : yeah i know that
[23:41] <Ari-Yang> kk
[23:41] <bellasbells> grkblood: somewhere in /usr/share/firefox/plugins I think
[23:41] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, you going to try fglrx or fglrx-updates ?
[23:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> what to manage compiz
[23:41] <Ari-Yang> LucidDreamZzZ, ccsm
[23:42] <maddy_pmg> Ari : fglrx-updates
[23:42] <grkblood> bellasbells, so its not the one in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer?
[23:42] <Ari-Yang> maddy_pmg, alrighty, when you quit IRC I'll assume you're rebooting
[23:42] <bellasbells> grkblood: theirs a symlink
[23:42] <maddy_pmg> Ari : yap
[23:42] <bellasbells> so you follow it from the plugins directory
[23:43] <bellasbells> in fact, most of the plugins in the directory are symlinks
[23:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> Ari-Yang, ok wahts that
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> !ccsm
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> ^ LucidDreamZzZ
[23:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> ahh great thnks
[23:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> !! Ari-Yang
[23:45] <Ari-Yang> yw
[23:45] <Ari-Yang> so you'd search for it in software center or sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:46] <grkblood> anyone here use hbogo and have dual monitors?
[23:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok got it thats waht i need
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> grkblood, The channel works with you stating the problem for help. ;)
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> Not really a covered app, but one never knows
[23:48] <grkblood> well, im trying to use hbogo on dual monitors, 2nd monitor being the tv, but it won't go into full screen mode on the tv. it hops over to the first monitor
[23:50] <steven> I modified a deb file and want to install my modified version, dpkg -i doesn't take care of dependencies though, so is there a way to install a local deb file using apt-get?
[23:50] <jrib> steven: use gdebi
[23:51] <jrib> steven: alternatively, use dpkg and then do apt-get install -f
[23:51]  * JRicketts_ is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[23:52] <steven> hm..so whats happening? it'll try to install it - fails, and apt-get install -f catches up where dpkg stopped and take care of the dependencies?
[23:52] <Ari-Yang> ugh, auto away scripts >__>
[23:52] <as2000> Does anyone else experience a crash with k3b on start up with 13.04?
[23:53] <steven> jrib at the end the solution has to work with puppet, thats why I want/need to know what will happen : )
[23:53] <killmaker> why can't i play a game like wow in wine beacuse wine dosn't load wow's luacher
[23:53] <jrib> steven: setup your own repository then? Does puppet only let you install things with apt?
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, WINE is unreliable....
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> and maybe you need to use proprietary driver?
[23:56] <steven> jrib: eh see I don't know how I'd do that : ) its only one single deb files since 1204 LTS has broken dependencies for a package, and no I can also manually execute cmd using puppet, I'd prefer apt though
[23:56] <steven> s/and no I/and I/
[23:57] <jrib> steven: what package has broken dependencies?
[23:57] <steven> phpmyadmin
[23:57] <jrib> steven: that's a fairly popular package.  It seems strange for that to be the case.  Is here a bug open?
[23:58] <steven> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/1012670
[23:59] <killmaker> how do i get preitorty drivers