[00:24] <fabioluciano> I'm having problems with maximized windows + compiz, someone have this too?
[00:24] <nagev> yes i have an issue with that
[00:25] <nagev> the close/max/min buttons don't work on some maximised windows
[00:26] <fabioluciano> nagev, exacly that!
[00:27] <fabioluciano> You resolved that or the problem continues?
[00:27] <fabioluciano> I searched for solutions for this issue and i can't find nothing. =(
[00:27] <fabioluciano> sadly
[00:28] <nagev> yeh, i have issues with minimised windows too.  sometimes clicking on them in the panel doesn't take me to the correct workspace.  yes, i found a workaround for the maximised windows.
[00:28] <fabioluciano> Can you share?
[00:28] <nagev> yes sure just a sec
[00:29] <nagev> are you finding it happens for certain types of windows, or all windows?  for me it was mainly image file viewers.
[00:30] <fabioluciano> To me are for all... I forgot the issue e suddenly i close the firefox window, eg.
[00:30] <nagev> i added force placement windows in the "enable place windows" plugin.
[00:31] <fabioluciano> What rule you use?
[00:32] <nagev> class=Ristretto | class=Gthumb
[00:32] <nagev> that worked for me but you can find more info here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267
[00:33] <fabioluciano> are you using xfce 4.10 or 4.12?
[00:33] <nagev> 4.10
[00:34] <fabioluciano> Well, i will use this and test if this fix that problem! Thanks naveg
[00:34] <fabioluciano> and sorry for my poor english =D
[00:35] <fabioluciano> "engrish"
[00:35] <tyrog> fabioluciano: nada mau
[00:35] <nagev> cool, no problem. there are some more work arounds in the comments of that bug report if u need to try anything else.
[00:36] <fabioluciano> Yeah! I'm reading the report right now... anyway, thank you!
[00:36] <fabioluciano> tyrog, brazlian too?
[00:37] <tyrog> fabioluciano: portuguese :)
[00:38] <fabioluciano> tyrog, \o
[05:16] <xubuntu569> hola
[05:16] <xubuntu569> ayuda en español ??
[05:16] <Unit193> !es | xubuntu569
[05:23] <samy_> how i can to remove ssh?
[05:25] <Unit193> SSH?  Server doesn't come preinstalled, but package name is openssh-server.
[05:25] <cfhowlett> samy_, remove ssh?  no need.  just don't use it.
[05:40] <samy_> how to stop
[05:40] <samy_> this service?
[05:47] <xubuntu145> hello. are there ones who installed xubuntu on Asus n-series laptops?
[05:48] <xubuntu145> i ve got some questions
[05:48] <xubuntu145> hello?
[05:48] <cfhowlett> !details|xubuntu145,
[05:51] <xubuntu145> okay, im running xubuntu 1204, it works pretty good, but 3d games looks awful, i used to use ubuntu, and there was "Additional drivers" option. i do not see any in xubuntu
[05:57] <samy_> I have to put drivers for integrated video card?
[06:10] <bkerensa> Why does shutdown result in logout on Xubuntu? :)
[06:11] <pleia2> bkerensa: sounds like a bug, can you search to see if there is an existing one, and if not submit one?
[06:16] <bkerensa> pleia2: yeah seems elfy already filed it... Why I asked on -devel is because I figured it was a bug ;) I will try and debug it
[07:01] <kovex> hey guys, for several months I've switched to linux from a windows system and want to stay working only with linux, but with all systems I've tested, I have always the following problem. After the login the window focus always stuck to one window. When I logout and login again this behavior appears more rarely.
[07:02] <cfhowlett> kovex, you can adust behavior at Settings > Windows Manager Tweaks
[07:02] <cfhowlett> "focus" is the option you should look at
[07:03] <kovex> I'm working on a dual monitor system, configured with xrand. The mouse itself is connected via usb (model : logitech, mx518)
[07:03] <kovex> ok I will check
[07:06] <kovex> chhowlett, I don't see any crucial settings!.... Now I have connected a n old PS2 mouse and the problem seems to be solved but. This is not a good solution because most of the device are usb devices
[07:07] <cfhowlett> kovex, usb/bluetooth is always a throw of the dice
[07:08] <Sysi> kovex: what if you replug the usb mouse?
[07:08] <kovex> I will try
[07:11] <kovex> right now I have connected the usb mouse (in parakllel to the ps2 mouse) and the problem appears  immediately. only the last window has the focus. I unpluged the usb mouse and everythink works good
[07:12] <Sysi> what xubuntu version?
[07:14] <kovex> I think the last one but do you have a cmd to find it out?
[07:14] <cfhowlett> kovex, lsb_release -a
[07:15] <kovex> XFCE 4.10
[07:15] <kovex> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 13.04 Release:	13.04 Codename:	raring
[07:18] <kovex> cfhowlett, are there maybe any recomendations for device (like mouse) which are working good on a ubuntu system
[07:18] <Sysi> copy the output of »cat ~/.xsession-errors« to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:19] <Sysi> same for »cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log«
[07:20] <cfhowlett> !hardware|kovex,
[07:20] <cfhowlett> kovex, I've had excellent luck with HP bluetooth mice ...
[07:20] <kovex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797745/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797746/
[07:21] <Sysi> I've yet never heard of such problem and can't find one with google either
[07:21] <kovex> sysi i have found a lot of posts redarding to this problem without a solution
[07:22] <kovex> now my last try is this chat
[07:22] <kovex> i've already tried ubuntu 10, 11, 12, and now xubuntu
[07:23] <kovex> ubottu thank you for the links
[07:23] <kovex> :-)
[07:23] <kovex> fail..
[07:24] <kovex> cfhowlett, I prefer cabled devices
[07:26] <xubuntu430> Hi guys. I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 64-bit from a USB, which I've created using Linux Live USB Creator. However, when I get to "Select and Install" I just get an "Installation step failed" error, but get no options to solve the issue?
[07:27] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, your system is confirmed to run 64 bit?
[07:27] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, and you DID md5sum check your iso?  right?
[07:28] <xubuntu430> cfhowlett: I didn't run a checksum, but I guess that's an option. Confirmed in which way?
[07:28] <xubuntu430> I've had 64 bit installations on the laptop before
[07:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, are you sure your system can run 64 bit?
[07:28] <xubuntu430> A Dell 630 btw.
[07:28] <xubuntu430> I've had XUbuntu 64-bit Desktop running on it
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|and you really should always check the iso.  30 seconds on the terminal vs. 30 minutes of hairpulling ...
[07:29] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, safe to assume then ...
[07:30] <Sysi> if you downloaded via torrent the checksum isn't needed
[07:31] <cfhowlett> Sysi, not true.  torrents can fail ... but they USUALLY don't ...
[07:31] <Sysi> cfhowlett: they have built-in checksum
[07:32] <Sysi> format the drive and try making the stick again, maybe try opening live session first and launching installer from there
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Sysi, I know this ... and I've STILL had bad torrents.
[07:32] <Sysi> well, checking the sum won't hurt of course
[07:34] <kovex> guys, have you seen something in the log and error outputs?
[07:35] <Sysi> kovex: it seems the driver for that device is bad, if the device works with windows
[07:35] <Sysi> kovex: you tried with clean installation always?
[07:35] <kovex> yes I do
[07:36] <kovex> this device is working well with windows
[07:36] <kovex> can you give me the line number whre you see the problem
[07:37] <xubuntu430> I'm actually not sure whether I used torrent or browser for this image, seeing I've downloaded a handful the last couple of days. I did remove the partition and created a root, tmp and swap for this installation specifically.
[07:37] <xubuntu430> ubottu: It's not 30 seconds in a terminal i Windows - you need third party software :P
[07:37] <Sysi> kovex: nothing strucks out really
[07:37] <xubuntu430> cfhowlett: It's not 30 seconds in a terminal i Windows - you need third party software :P*
[07:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, noted.
[07:39] <Sysi> xubuntu430: maybe try without separate tmp
[07:39] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, you're dual booting?
[07:39] <xubuntu430> I'm dual booting with Windows 7, yes.
[07:39] <xubuntu430> Unsure about whether that's 32 or 64-bit though
[07:40] <xubuntu430> Sysi: Any reason why?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, proceed carefully.  you probably have a win7 restore partition, so with the win7 partition, that's 2.  MBR only handles 4 primary partitions ...
[07:40] <kovex> hmm ... my idea was also that the mainboard chipset is maybe not compatible, but for 6 moth my old mainboar was defect, now I have a new one (different companies , brands  5years difference ). The problem is exactly the same as with the old board
[07:42] <xubuntu430> cfhowlett: I've got two primary partitions, both are NTFS. A 100 MB one (unsure about what's actually on that?) and a 100 GB for Windows. Then there's my swap partition which is logical, and my two ext4 logicals for tmp and root.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, sounds legit ...
[07:50] <xubuntu430> Glad to hear it
[07:50] <xubuntu430> Weird though
[07:51] <xubuntu430> Could it be my USB installation?
[07:51] <kovex> ok, sysi, you mean the driver for this hardware is bad, and I should try it with an other usb device?
[07:52] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, try a different USB if you can.  They do get funky.  if
[07:54] <xubuntu430> That might be a good point actually
[07:54] <xubuntu430> It might be crap what I'm using
[07:55] <xubuntu430> I'll try using usb-creator-gtk on my other Ubuntu installation and a different USB key
[07:56] <Sysi> kovex: if you really want to use ubuntu, you might need to get a new mouse
[07:56] <Sysi> kovex: you can try with vanilla ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 and ask #ubuntu still
[07:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, fingers crossed
[07:57] <kovex> whats vanilla ubuntu? You think with an other linux derrivat there is a chance that the mouse will work?
[07:58] <xubuntu430> Thanks cfhowlett. Awesome support you've got in here btw.
[07:58] <Sysi> kovex: "the ubuntu", main ubuntu with unity
[07:59] <cfhowlett> xubuntu430, best of luck.  I've had a usb failure.  new usb fixed it right up.
[07:59] <Sysi> no idea about other distros
[07:59] <kovex> ahh kk:)
[07:59] <kovex> ok i will by an other usb mouse, and if it doesn't work I will try an other distro
[08:02] <xubuntu430> I think you've might be right actually. I'll try one I've had success with earlier.
[08:03] <kovex> ok guys thank you, awesome support.
[09:36] <doebi> is fixing GRUB the same in xubuntu as in standard ubuntu?
[09:36] <ochosi> doebi: yes
[09:36] <doebi> cause i ran Boot-Repair and it said 'Success' but i cant boot into GRUP
[09:37] <doebi> *GRUB
[09:41] <doebi> the url i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797985/
[10:17] <doebi> well i reinstalled whole xubntu
[10:17] <doebi> thought i dont think it's the recommended way to fix it
[10:58] <samy_> uhhh
[10:59] <samy_> my office libre is crashed
[10:59] <samy_> cannot open again
[10:59] <samy_> :S
[10:59] <Sysi> open task manager and see of there is some office process stuck
[10:59] <cfhowlett> samy_, open an terminal and run libreoffice.  note the error message.  ask in the libreoffice forums
[11:00] <samy_> i dont know where is my manager
[11:00] <samy_> :D
[11:00] <samy_> im newbieee
[11:00] <Sysi> in the menu
[11:00] <samy_> in system
[11:00] <samy_> ok
[11:00] <samy_> i find
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !enter
[11:02] <samy_> kill and stop dont work in terminal
[11:03] <cfhowlett> samy_, kill -9 process ID number ...
[11:04] <samy_> I can handle
[11:04] <samy_> i go reboot
[11:04] <samy_> :(
[11:07] <Sysi> pkill -9 rtofnam is really easy even if a bit hasardous, but I don't know what process names LO uses
[11:21] <SKYLAKE-10nm> hi grawity
[11:24] <knome> SKYLAKE-10nm?
[11:24] <SKYLAKE-10nm> wrong chan
[11:47] <qwertz_> are there any reasons not to use nautilus with xfce?
[11:47] <qwertz_> some program i recently installed (shotwell?) pulled in nautilus and i seem to like it
[11:49] <baizon> qwertz_: you can use it :)
[11:49] <baizon> if you like it
[11:49] <cfhowlett> qwertz_, ubuntustudio has both.  they appear to co-exist peacefully
[11:50] <qwertz_> cool, is ubuntu studio still around?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> qwertz_, of COURSE!!!
[11:50]  * qwertz_ is eager to see bitwig released... 
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio|qwertz_,
[11:51] <qwertz_> cfhowlett, i have been trying to use that productively back in 2010 or 2009
[11:51] <qwertz_> cfhowlett, i was trying hard to run FLStudio in wine
[11:53] <cfhowlett> qwertz_, audacity and ardour are the opensource alternatives.  also rosengarten?
[11:55] <qwertz_> cfhowlett, no, none of those are actual alternatives. or at least have been that back in the days
[11:57] <cfhowlett> !wine|qwertz_, just sayin'.  I've no idea about flstudio
[14:30] <xubuntu115> hi ubuntu xperts, I'm a rookie who just installed xubuntu 13.04 on my HP Pavilion G7 laptop.
[14:31] <xubuntu115> after installing xubuntu everything worked perfect but now I can't connect to my wireless connection
[14:31] <xubuntu115> I keep being asked for a wifi password but it never accepts what I type in
[14:32] <xubuntu115> I've been scouring the internet all morning but haven't seen much promising information
[14:55] <Distrot> Hello. I changed my swap size in GParted since I don't have much memory, but now it won't start automatically. Any suggestions?
[14:55] <Distrot> (I have to turn it on manually with "swapon" in GParted)
[14:57] <koegs> Distrot: "swapon -a" and add it to "/etc/fstab"
[15:00] <Distrot> koegs: Sorry for my newbiness, but I'm not really sure how to phrase the code in terminal.
[15:04] <krytarik> Distrot: Have you deleted and recreated the swap partition, instead of just resizing it, resulting in a change of its UUID?
[15:05] <Distrot> Actually, yes. It wasn't letting me enlarge the size, so I deleted it and created a larger one.
[15:05] <krytarik> !fstab ! Distrot
[15:05] <krytarik> Damn it. :D
[15:05] <krytarik> Sec.
[15:06] <bsk> "sudo blkid" and update it on fstab
[15:06] <krytarik> Distrot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[15:06] <Distrot> Lol, sorry.
[15:07] <skaet> knome, is Xubuntu participating in Alpha 1?
[15:09] <krytarik> Woops, put a "!" there instead of a "|". :D
[15:11] <Distrot> krytarik: I understand fstab a little better now, but I still don't know how to automatically mount it... lol.
[15:11] <Distrot> krytarik: it = the swap partition
[15:12] <krytarik> Distrot: Just follow bsk's advice.
[15:13] <Distrot> krystarik: Oh, I didn't even see that, lol.
[15:19] <Distrot> krytarik: Should I delete the "none" after the UUID or leave it?
[15:20] <krytarik> Distrot: Just leave everything else as it is, only change the UUID.
[15:21] <Distrot> Ok! Thanks guys. Will probably be back for something else later, lol.
[15:21] <krytarik> Hehe, welcome.
[16:21] <nasir> first time using xubuntu
[16:21] <nasir> great o.s
[16:21] <nasir> thanks guys
[16:22] <Aiena> Does anyone know if Wacom Bamboo  fun pen and touch wirks with xubuntu 12.04 or 13.04?
[16:22] <Aiena> *works
[16:22] <Pici> I've used my older wacom tablet in releases prior to 12.04
[16:23] <Aiena> Pici did that have touch support?
[16:23] <Pici> no.
[16:23] <Aiena> ok
[16:23] <Aiena> DO you think touch versions are supported in lnux?
[16:23] <Aiena> *linux
[16:23] <holstein> Aiena: try it live, and see ..
[16:24] <Aiena> holsteinI have to order it from abroad so I cant try it sorry (:
[16:24] <Aiena> holstein I have to order it from abroad so I cant try it sorry (:
[16:28] <holstein> Aiena: you can download the iso for the operating system free of charge, actually
[16:29] <TheSheep> holstein: I think he means the tablet
[16:30] <Pici> holstein: I think they meant the tablet needs to be ordered
[16:30]  * Aiena nods
[16:30] <Aiena> I cant test the tablet live
[16:30] <Aiena> *can't
[16:30] <holstein> i personally want to see the hardware running first hand.. or i want the vendor to say "linux support".. otherwise, any kernel upgrade can break support anytime
[16:31] <holstein> OR, the device can work happily for years and years... but, there is no guarantee..
[16:31] <TheSheep> holstein: it would be great, but it's not currently possible, especially in smaller cities and/or countries
[16:32] <holstein> TheSheep: im just saying, *nothing* i would read on a wiki page, or IRC would make me say "this will certainly work with ubuntu"
[16:32] <holstein> unless it says it on the box from the vendor... and even then, it can be tricky with kernel versions
[16:33] <TheSheep> holstein: well, the people who make stuff work in the kernel usually do it for the devices they own themselves
[16:33] <TheSheep> holstein: and they keep on maintaining it, so it's not really that likely to stop working, especially with things like graphic tablets that you don't really replace so often
[16:33] <holstein> yup.. and im not "complaining" about the support.. im just saying, things can become "unsupportable"
[16:34] <TheSheep> holstein: I recently got a scanner for free, because there are no drivers for it for Vista, but it works perfectly fine on linux
[16:35] <holstein> i have seen that with printers as well. i have also seen folks buy the "best supported" firewise device for ubuntustudio, and an update breaks the support
[16:35] <TheSheep> I think you are more likely to have your hardware go out of support for windows than for linux
[16:35] <holstein> no one can "fix" it, since its not broken.. its ust situationally not supportable
[16:35] <TheSheep> firewise?
[16:36] <holstein> firewire*
[16:36] <holstein> i can also agree with that statement.. that is it more "likely".. still, i save my reciepts
[16:36] <TheSheep> that closed, patented Apple protocol?
[16:36] <TheSheep> agreed that investing in closed protocols is risky
[16:36] <holstein> there is also the factor of me being able to get the device working
[16:37] <holstein> TheSheep: ffado is the linux firewire stack, and its arguable that anything else is capable of handling pro audio
[16:37] <holstein> anything that is easily supportable, and able to be used on laptops and desktops.. going between the 2
[16:37] <TheSheep> usb 3 perhaps?
[16:37] <holstein> the firewire was just an example.. hardware support *does* leave the kernel
[16:37] <TheSheep> and why do you need pro audio for your printer?
[16:38] <holstein> ;)
[16:40] <Aiena> holstein http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index_old.php/main gives me hope...
[16:41] <TheSheep> Aiena: actually you want http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Main_Page
[16:42] <TheSheep> Aiena: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=USB_Tablets_with_Touch
[16:43] <Aiena> oh cool sounds supported from the looks of it I think then I don't have to worry. :)
[16:44] <TheSheep> Aiena: by the way, have you considered tablets by other companies?
[16:45] <TheSheep> Aiena: wacom is popular and well known, but rather expensive
[16:45] <Aiena> TheSheep I have a tablet by another cmpany which I cannot use linux seems to have best support for wacom over others
[16:45] <TheSheep> (then again, other tablets are probably not well supported on linux)
[16:45] <TheSheep> yeah, which is a shame
[16:45] <Aiena> No Digimend supports only some
[16:45] <TheSheep> wacom is an ugly monopolist :(
[16:45] <Aiena> and I think wacom tablets are the most used tablets
[16:46] <Aiena> even krita use only wacom for testing
[16:46] <TheSheep> they are
[16:46] <Aiena> so that sort of says something...
[17:33] <Distrot> I'm back! Anybody know what this means: http://pastebin.com/HH8YRnvP
[17:37] <Distrot> Oops: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799171/
[17:38] <Sysi> is pithos installed from repositories?
[17:38] <Distrot> Ubuntu Software Center so, yes(?)
[17:39] <Sysi> yup, so I guess you're missing gstreamer plugins
[17:40] <Distrot> I tried to install them though and it said it was up to date, so it didn't do anything.
[17:40] <Distrot> I tried saying: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-alsa
[17:41] <Distrot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799179/
[17:42] <doebi> how to join a wpa2 secured wireless network with AES encryption?
[17:42] <doebi> i cant get it to work on our institute
[17:43] <doebi> it did work in the past, and sysadmin says only AES encryption is working anymore
[17:46] <flux242> doebi: are you using network-manager?
[17:52] <Distrot> I ran: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-alsa but have the same issue.
[17:55] <doebi> flux242: well, i think so
[17:55] <flux242> it should work then
[17:56] <doebi> it doesn't :/
[17:56] <doebi> and i cant adjst brightness either
[17:57] <doebi> the 13.04 release was a pure disappointment
[17:57] <doebi> even my duplicate bluetooth icon isn't fixed yet
[17:57] <mikubuntu> can anyone please tell me how to fix my screensaver in lubuntu -- it doesn't activate, even tho the settings are set for it to
[17:58] <Distrot> Anybody can help with pithos and gstreamer? Sorry for bumping.
[18:01] <SonikkuAmerica> mikubuntu: Head for #lubuntu with that..
[18:01] <SonikkuAmerica> mikubuntu: (This is #xubuntu)
[18:01] <Distrot> You talking to me? lol
[18:02] <mikubuntu> ty sonik, i din't know they had a channel
[18:04] <Distrot> Anybody know anything about gstreamer?
[18:05] <Aiena> TheSheepseems to be suppDistrot what is the issue?
[18:05] <Aiena> Distrot what is the issue?
[18:06] <Aiena> you cant play media files wit it?
[18:06] <Aiena> *can't
[18:06] <Distrot> Aiena: I am trying to get Pithos to work in Xubuntu 13.04, but it won't grab the songs despite accessing the stations.
[18:06] <Distrot> Aiena: I ran pithos -v and got the following:
[18:07] <Distrot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799171/
[18:07] <Aiena> hmmm
[18:07] <Distrot> Aiena: Then I tried to update gstreamer, as that seemed to be the issue: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-alsa
[18:07] <Aiena> can gstreamer on your pc play normal mmedia files?
[18:07] <Distrot> Aiena: But I still don't get anything working.
[18:08] <Distrot> Aiena: Well, I don't really know. I thought it was just a plugin.
[18:08] <Aiena> Distrot try using synaptic to purge gstreamer
[18:08] <Aiena> and then use install again
[18:08] <Aiena> also sometimes the issue is missing codecs etc.
[18:08] <Aiena> mp3 is not installed by default.
[18:09] <Aiena> and most online radio is in mp3 or aac
[18:09] <Distrot> You think that might be the issue?
[18:09] <Distrot> Ahh... the mp3 codec, that makes sense...
[18:09] <Aiena> yes probably
[18:09] <Aiena> if that does not work then looking into something else
[18:10] <Aiena> Distrot is the gstreamer fluendo plugin installed 0 check in synaptic
[18:11] <Distrot> Aiena: One sec, por favor
[18:12] <Aiena> Distrot also you can try installing the python-gst0.10-rtsp package
[18:12] <Aiena> Distrot sure :)
[18:14] <Distrot> Aiena: Well, I just installed the restricted packages and tried Pithos again to no avail
[18:14] <Aiena> Distrot also you can try installing the python-gst0.10-rtsp package
[18:14] <Aiena> assuming your using 12.04
[18:14] <Aiena> otherwise you might have a newer rtsp package
[18:14] <Distrot> Aiena: I'm using 13.04
[18:14] <flux242> well 13.04 works quite good for me. Double bluetooth icon appears because 2 apps are started at start up. Just disactivate one of them. Leave blueman
[18:15] <Aiena> ok then youll have a higher version
[18:15] <Aiena> but same package
[18:15] <Distrot> Aiena: It seems to be working anyway
[18:15] <Aiena> hmm it ok now?
[18:15] <Distrot> Aiena: nope, same situation
[18:16] <Distrot> Aiena: Dumb question, how do I use synaptic on 13.04?
[18:17] <Aiena> its not there
[18:17] <Aiena> ok press alt+F2
[18:17] <Aiena> and type synaptic
[18:18] <Aiena> you should find it that way too
[18:18] <Distrot> Uhh...
[18:18] <Distrot> Red circle with white bar inside? lol
[18:18] <Aiena> abd on the top
[18:18] <Aiena> THERE IS A SERCH BOX
[18:18] <Distrot> abd?
[18:18] <Aiena> sorry for the caps
[18:19] <Aiena> there is a search box
[18:19] <Aiena> type python gstreamer there
[18:19] <Distrot> In synaptic or application finder?
[18:19] <Aiena> synaptic
[18:19] <Aiena> the package manager
[18:19] <Aiena> one sec
[18:20] <Distrot> I'm familiar with it, but, does it go under the name "Software & Updates" in 13.04?
[18:20] <Distrot> Forgive me, I am slightly stupid.
[18:21] <Aiena> Distrot I am not following you also I am using the LTS version so not sure about changes in 13.04
[18:21] <Aiena> 13.04 is a year newer than my distro
[18:22] <Aiena> give me a sec to boot it up in live mode and Ill brb
[18:22] <Distrot> Right, Pangolin, but I dunno which one... ok.
[18:22] <Aiena> Distrot Ill rejoin irc from xubuntu 13.04 so I can attempt to help you better.
[18:34] <Aiena> back
[18:34] <Aiena> Distrot, I think you need to install synaptic first in 13.04
[18:34] <Aiena> I ma on 13.04 live boot
[18:35] <Distrot> Oh... ok. Doing it now.
[18:36] <Aiena> *am
[18:37] <Distrot> Ok. I gots it.
[18:38] <Aiena> Distrot, which software were you trying to use again?
[18:39] <Aiena> and can you repost the link to the error message
[18:39] <Distrot> pithos
[18:39] <Aiena> I lost the earlier info when I rebooted into 13.04
[18:39] <Distrot> Right
[18:39] <Distrot> Aiena: I am trying to get Pithos to work in Xubuntu 13.04, but it won't grab the songs despite accessing the stations.
[18:40] <Distrot> Aiena: I ran pithos -v and got the following:
[18:40] <Distrot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799171/
[18:40] <Distrot> Aiena: Then I tried to update gstreamer, as that seemed to be the issue: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-alsa
[18:40] <Aiena> Distrot, you need to remove 0.10 in that case
[18:40] <Distrot> Aiena: I'm using 13.04
[18:41] <Aiena> if you want to use 1.0
[18:41] <Distrot> Really?
[18:41] <Aiena> Distrot, still o.10 is installed by default not 1.0
[18:41] <Distrot> I have 0.10 fluendo as well
[18:41] <Aiena> then dont update to gstreamer 1.0
[18:41] <Distrot> Should I just remove 1.0
[18:41] <Aiena> yes
[18:41] <Distrot> I'll just remove it then
[18:41] <Aiena> remove everythin 1.0 please
[18:41] <Aiena> they must be conflicting
[18:41] <Distrot> Removing...
[18:42] <Aiena> I am installing piyhos myself on my live distro to see
[18:42] <Unit193> 1.0 and 0.10 work fine to have both.
[18:42] <Aiena> *pithos
[18:42] <Aiena> Unit193, Ok
[18:42] <Aiena> but pithos is downloading gstremer 0.10 libs so I dont see the need for 1.0
[18:42] <Aiena> when I am installing
[18:43] <Distrot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799375/
[18:43] <Distrot> That's the error I get now
[18:43] <Distrot> Same as before
[18:43] <Aiena> Distrot, installing pithos
[18:44] <Distrot> Okee doke.
[18:44] <Aiena> then I can try to replicate the error here and fix it and then tell you what to do..
[18:44] <Aiena> rather than beat around the bush.
[18:44] <Distrot> Ok. Sorry if I seem annoying. I appreciate what you're doing.
[18:44] <Aiena> no your not annoying
[18:44] <Aiena> iys just that I've never used pithos before.
[18:44] <Aiena> and I use vlc for all my media needs
[18:45] <Distrot> Really? Oh.
[18:45] <Distrot> I use Minitube as well...
[18:45] <Aiena> oops pandora is restricted in my country
[18:46] <Aiena> Distrot, does pandora not start at all for you?
[18:46] <Aiena> or it allows you to login?
[18:46] <Distrot> It does in the browser.
[18:46] <Distrot> Pithos starts as well.
[18:46] <Distrot> It works fine in the browser.
[18:46] <Distrot> Pithos will grab the stations but not the songs.
[18:46] <Aiena> ok
[18:47] <Aiena> one sec
[18:48] <Aiena> Distrot, open synpatic
[18:48] <Aiena> and type playbin
[18:49] <Aiena> try installing the rygel-playbin plugin and restarting pithos
[18:49] <Aiena> might fix the issue
[18:49] <Distrot> And the rygel-gst-renderer?
[18:50] <Aiena> Distrot, dunno try both
[18:51] <Aiena> but the second one is listed as a dummy package
[18:51] <Distrot> same situation
[18:51] <Aiena> so its wont make a difference
[18:52] <Aiena> Distrot, sorry I am at a loss remove playbin
[18:52] <Distrot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799400/
[18:52] <Aiena> I can't login to pandora either
[18:52] <Aiena> becuase it is restricted
[18:53] <Aiena> perhaps someone else here can help.
[18:53] <Distrot> Well, I appreciate the help.
[18:53] <Distrot> I can survive without it, lol.
[18:53] <Aiena> you can keep fluendo it will help with general mp3 playback
[18:53] <Distrot> Ok. Will do.
[18:53] <Distrot> I'm staying on anyways.
[18:53] <Distrot> But I really do appreciate your help.
[18:55] <Aiena> and yeah keep synaptic would be handy for package search if you dont like the terminal...
[18:56] <Aiena> If I do find something Ill let you know.
[18:56] <Aiena> *I'll
[19:02] <dunpeal> Is it possible to unbind F1 in xfce-terminal?
[19:03] <dunpeal> I have a bunch of console programs that map useful functionality on F1, so I don't want xfce-terminal to capture it.
[19:03] <knome> dunpeal, which xubuntu version are you using?
[19:03] <dunpeal> knome: 13.04
[19:04] <knome> dunpeal, open the help menu and hover over the "contents" item
[19:04] <knome> dunpeal, then press eg. ctrl+esc to change the shortcut
[19:05] <knome> dunpeal, the menu item should reflect the change
[19:06] <knome> dunpeal, did that work for you?
[19:06] <dunpeal> knome: no, nothing happens when I hover over it.
[19:07] <knome> dunpeal, go to settings manager -> appearance -> tab settings and see if "enable editable accelerators" is checked
[19:08] <dunpeal> knome: omg praise the XFCE
[19:08] <dunpeal> this is great, thanks so much.
[19:08] <knome> no problem, enjoy
[20:59] <bkerensa> It appears that for some reason network manager on Xubuntu is not listing SSIDs that are available on other devices? If go through connect to a hidden it works fine but the SSID is not hidden
[20:59] <bkerensa> odd
[21:54] <xubuntu313> hi, can I just write the xubuntu 12.04 media to a thumb dribe using dd to get a liveusb?
[21:55] <David-A> xubuntu313: I believe you can, but it will behave as a live cd (sessions are not saved between runs)
[21:56] <xubuntu313> David-A: thanks, I plan on tweaking it out to create persistence