[00:24] I'm having problems with maximized windows + compiz, someone have this too? [00:24] yes i have an issue with that [00:25] the close/max/min buttons don't work on some maximised windows [00:26] nagev, exacly that! [00:27] You resolved that or the problem continues? [00:27] I searched for solutions for this issue and i can't find nothing. =( [00:27] sadly [00:28] yeh, i have issues with minimised windows too. sometimes clicking on them in the panel doesn't take me to the correct workspace. yes, i found a workaround for the maximised windows. [00:28] Can you share? [00:28] yes sure just a sec [00:29] are you finding it happens for certain types of windows, or all windows? for me it was mainly image file viewers. [00:30] To me are for all... I forgot the issue e suddenly i close the firefox window, eg. [00:30] i added force placement windows in the "enable place windows" plugin. [00:31] What rule you use? [00:32] class=Ristretto | class=Gthumb [00:32] that worked for me but you can find more info here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267 [00:32] Launchpad bug 1158267 in Compiz "Regression: Broken (click-through) window decoration on some maximized windows" [Critical,Confirmed] [00:33] are you using xfce 4.10 or 4.12? [00:33] 4.10 [00:34] Well, i will use this and test if this fix that problem! Thanks naveg [00:34] and sorry for my poor english =D [00:35] "engrish" [00:35] fabioluciano: nada mau [00:35] cool, no problem. there are some more work arounds in the comments of that bug report if u need to try anything else. [00:36] Yeah! I'm reading the report right now... anyway, thank you! [00:36] tyrog, brazlian too? [00:37] fabioluciano: portuguese :) [00:38] tyrog, \o === marco is now known as Guest85517 === acerimmer is now known as cfhowlett === acerimmer is now known as cfhowlett [05:16] hola [05:16] ayuda en español ?? [05:16] !es | xubuntu569 [05:16] xubuntu569: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [05:23] how i can to remove ssh? [05:25] SSH? Server doesn't come preinstalled, but package name is openssh-server. [05:25] samy_, remove ssh? no need. just don't use it. [05:40] how to stop [05:40] this service? [05:47] hello. are there ones who installed xubuntu on Asus n-series laptops? [05:48] i ve got some questions [05:48] hello? [05:48] !details|xubuntu145, [05:48] xubuntu145,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [05:51] okay, im running xubuntu 1204, it works pretty good, but 3d games looks awful, i used to use ubuntu, and there was "Additional drivers" option. i do not see any in xubuntu [05:57] I have to put drivers for integrated video card? [06:10] Why does shutdown result in logout on Xubuntu? :) [06:11] bkerensa: sounds like a bug, can you search to see if there is an existing one, and if not submit one? [06:16] pleia2: yeah seems elfy already filed it... Why I asked on -devel is because I figured it was a bug ;) I will try and debug it [07:01] hey guys, for several months I've switched to linux from a windows system and want to stay working only with linux, but with all systems I've tested, I have always the following problem. After the login the window focus always stuck to one window. When I logout and login again this behavior appears more rarely. [07:02] kovex, you can adust behavior at Settings > Windows Manager Tweaks [07:02] "focus" is the option you should look at [07:03] I'm working on a dual monitor system, configured with xrand. The mouse itself is connected via usb (model : logitech, mx518) [07:03] ok I will check [07:06] chhowlett, I don't see any crucial settings!.... Now I have connected a n old PS2 mouse and the problem seems to be solved but. This is not a good solution because most of the device are usb devices [07:07] kovex, usb/bluetooth is always a throw of the dice [07:08] kovex: what if you replug the usb mouse? [07:08] I will try [07:11] right now I have connected the usb mouse (in parakllel to the ps2 mouse) and the problem appears immediately. only the last window has the focus. I unpluged the usb mouse and everythink works good [07:12] what xubuntu version? [07:14] I think the last one but do you have a cmd to find it out? [07:14] kovex, lsb_release -a [07:15] XFCE 4.10 [07:15] Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 13.04 Release: 13.04 Codename: raring [07:18] cfhowlett, are there maybe any recomendations for device (like mouse) which are working good on a ubuntu system [07:18] copy the output of »cat ~/.xsession-errors« to http://paste.ubuntu.com [07:19] same for »cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log« [07:20] !hardware|kovex, [07:20] kovex,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [07:20] kovex, I've had excellent luck with HP bluetooth mice ... [07:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797745/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797746/ [07:21] I've yet never heard of such problem and can't find one with google either [07:21] sysi i have found a lot of posts redarding to this problem without a solution [07:22] now my last try is this chat [07:22] i've already tried ubuntu 10, 11, 12, and now xubuntu [07:23] ubottu thank you for the links [07:23] kovex: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:23] :-) [07:23] fail.. [07:24] cfhowlett, I prefer cabled devices [07:26] Hi guys. I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 64-bit from a USB, which I've created using Linux Live USB Creator. However, when I get to "Select and Install" I just get an "Installation step failed" error, but get no options to solve the issue? [07:27] xubuntu430, your system is confirmed to run 64 bit? [07:27] xubuntu430, and you DID md5sum check your iso? right? [07:28] cfhowlett: I didn't run a checksum, but I guess that's an option. Confirmed in which way? [07:28] I've had 64 bit installations on the laptop before [07:28] xubuntu430, are you sure your system can run 64 bit? [07:28] A Dell 630 btw. [07:28] I've had XUbuntu 64-bit Desktop running on it [07:28] !md5sum|and you really should always check the iso. 30 seconds on the terminal vs. 30 minutes of hairpulling ... [07:28] and you really should always check the iso. 30 seconds on the terminal vs. 30 minutes of hairpulling ...: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [07:29] xubuntu430, safe to assume then ... [07:30] if you downloaded via torrent the checksum isn't needed [07:31] Sysi, not true. torrents can fail ... but they USUALLY don't ... [07:31] cfhowlett: they have built-in checksum [07:32] format the drive and try making the stick again, maybe try opening live session first and launching installer from there [07:32] Sysi, I know this ... and I've STILL had bad torrents. [07:32] well, checking the sum won't hurt of course [07:34] guys, have you seen something in the log and error outputs? [07:35] kovex: it seems the driver for that device is bad, if the device works with windows [07:35] kovex: you tried with clean installation always? [07:35] yes I do [07:36] this device is working well with windows [07:36] can you give me the line number whre you see the problem [07:37] I'm actually not sure whether I used torrent or browser for this image, seeing I've downloaded a handful the last couple of days. I did remove the partition and created a root, tmp and swap for this installation specifically. [07:37] ubottu: It's not 30 seconds in a terminal i Windows - you need third party software :P [07:37] xubuntu430: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:37] kovex: nothing strucks out really [07:37] cfhowlett: It's not 30 seconds in a terminal i Windows - you need third party software :P* [07:38] xubuntu430, noted. [07:39] xubuntu430: maybe try without separate tmp [07:39] xubuntu430, you're dual booting? [07:39] I'm dual booting with Windows 7, yes. [07:39] Unsure about whether that's 32 or 64-bit though [07:40] Sysi: Any reason why? [07:40] xubuntu430, proceed carefully. you probably have a win7 restore partition, so with the win7 partition, that's 2. MBR only handles 4 primary partitions ... [07:40] hmm ... my idea was also that the mainboard chipset is maybe not compatible, but for 6 moth my old mainboar was defect, now I have a new one (different companies , brands 5years difference ). The problem is exactly the same as with the old board [07:42] cfhowlett: I've got two primary partitions, both are NTFS. A 100 MB one (unsure about what's actually on that?) and a 100 GB for Windows. Then there's my swap partition which is logical, and my two ext4 logicals for tmp and root. [07:46] xubuntu430, sounds legit ... [07:50] Glad to hear it [07:50] Weird though [07:51] Could it be my USB installation? [07:51] ok, sysi, you mean the driver for this hardware is bad, and I should try it with an other usb device? [07:52] xubuntu430, try a different USB if you can. They do get funky. if [07:54] That might be a good point actually [07:54] It might be crap what I'm using [07:55] I'll try using usb-creator-gtk on my other Ubuntu installation and a different USB key [07:56] kovex: if you really want to use ubuntu, you might need to get a new mouse [07:56] kovex: you can try with vanilla ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 and ask #ubuntu still [07:57] xubuntu430, fingers crossed [07:57] whats vanilla ubuntu? You think with an other linux derrivat there is a chance that the mouse will work? [07:58] Thanks cfhowlett. Awesome support you've got in here btw. [07:58] kovex: "the ubuntu", main ubuntu with unity [07:59] xubuntu430, best of luck. I've had a usb failure. new usb fixed it right up. [07:59] no idea about other distros [07:59] ahh kk:) [07:59] ok i will by an other usb mouse, and if it doesn't work I will try an other distro [08:02] I think you've might be right actually. I'll try one I've had success with earlier. [08:03] ok guys thank you, awesome support. [09:36] is fixing GRUB the same in xubuntu as in standard ubuntu? [09:36] doebi: yes [09:36] cause i ran Boot-Repair and it said 'Success' but i cant boot into GRUP [09:37] *GRUB [09:41] the url i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5797985/ [10:17] well i reinstalled whole xubntu [10:17] thought i dont think it's the recommended way to fix it === acerimmer is now known as cfhowlett [10:58] uhhh [10:59] my office libre is crashed [10:59] cannot open again [10:59] :S [10:59] open task manager and see of there is some office process stuck [10:59] samy_, open an terminal and run libreoffice. note the error message. ask in the libreoffice forums [11:00] i dont know where is my manager [11:00] :D [11:00] im newbieee [11:00] in the menu [11:00] in system [11:00] ok [11:00] i find [11:01] !enter [11:01] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [11:02] kill and stop dont work in terminal [11:03] samy_, kill -9 process ID number ... [11:04] I can handle [11:04] i go reboot [11:04] :( [11:07] pkill -9 rtofnam is really easy even if a bit hasardous, but I don't know what process names LO uses [11:21] hi grawity [11:24] SKYLAKE-10nm? [11:24] wrong chan [11:47] are there any reasons not to use nautilus with xfce? [11:47] some program i recently installed (shotwell?) pulled in nautilus and i seem to like it [11:49] qwertz_: you can use it :) [11:49] if you like it [11:49] qwertz_, ubuntustudio has both. they appear to co-exist peacefully [11:50] cool, is ubuntu studio still around? [11:50] qwertz_, of COURSE!!! [11:50] * qwertz_ is eager to see bitwig released... [11:50] !ubuntustudio|qwertz_, [11:50] qwertz_,: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org [11:51] cfhowlett, i have been trying to use that productively back in 2010 or 2009 [11:51] cfhowlett, i was trying hard to run FLStudio in wine [11:53] qwertz_, audacity and ardour are the opensource alternatives. also rosengarten? [11:55] cfhowlett, no, none of those are actual alternatives. or at least have been that back in the days [11:57] !wine|qwertz_, just sayin'. I've no idea about flstudio [11:57] qwertz_, just sayin'. I've no idea about flstudio: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [14:30] hi ubuntu xperts, I'm a rookie who just installed xubuntu 13.04 on my HP Pavilion G7 laptop. [14:31] after installing xubuntu everything worked perfect but now I can't connect to my wireless connection [14:31] I keep being asked for a wifi password but it never accepts what I type in [14:32] I've been scouring the internet all morning but haven't seen much promising information [14:55] Hello. I changed my swap size in GParted since I don't have much memory, but now it won't start automatically. Any suggestions? [14:55] (I have to turn it on manually with "swapon" in GParted) [14:57] Distrot: "swapon -a" and add it to "/etc/fstab" [15:00] koegs: Sorry for my newbiness, but I'm not really sure how to phrase the code in terminal. [15:04] Distrot: Have you deleted and recreated the swap partition, instead of just resizing it, resulting in a change of its UUID? [15:05] Actually, yes. It wasn't letting me enlarge the size, so I deleted it and created a larger one. [15:05] !fstab ! Distrot [15:05] krytarik: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:05] Damn it. :D [15:05] Sec. [15:06] "sudo blkid" and update it on fstab [15:06] Distrot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [15:06] Lol, sorry. [15:07] knome, is Xubuntu participating in Alpha 1? [15:09] Woops, put a "!" there instead of a "|". :D [15:11] krytarik: I understand fstab a little better now, but I still don't know how to automatically mount it... lol. [15:11] krytarik: it = the swap partition [15:12] Distrot: Just follow bsk's advice. [15:13] krystarik: Oh, I didn't even see that, lol. [15:19] krytarik: Should I delete the "none" after the UUID or leave it? [15:20] Distrot: Just leave everything else as it is, only change the UUID. [15:21] Ok! Thanks guys. Will probably be back for something else later, lol. [15:21] Hehe, welcome. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === topyli_ is now known as topyli [16:21] first time using xubuntu [16:21] great o.s [16:21] thanks guys [16:22] Does anyone know if Wacom Bamboo fun pen and touch wirks with xubuntu 12.04 or 13.04? [16:22] *works [16:22] I've used my older wacom tablet in releases prior to 12.04 === mr_chris_ is now known as mr_chris [16:23] Pici did that have touch support? [16:23] no. [16:23] ok [16:23] DO you think touch versions are supported in lnux? [16:23] *linux [16:23] Aiena: try it live, and see .. [16:24] holsteinI have to order it from abroad so I cant try it sorry (: [16:24] holstein I have to order it from abroad so I cant try it sorry (: [16:28] Aiena: you can download the iso for the operating system free of charge, actually [16:29] holstein: I think he means the tablet [16:30] holstein: I think they meant the tablet needs to be ordered [16:30] * Aiena nods [16:30] I cant test the tablet live [16:30] *can't [16:30] i personally want to see the hardware running first hand.. or i want the vendor to say "linux support".. otherwise, any kernel upgrade can break support anytime [16:31] OR, the device can work happily for years and years... but, there is no guarantee.. [16:31] holstein: it would be great, but it's not currently possible, especially in smaller cities and/or countries [16:32] TheSheep: im just saying, *nothing* i would read on a wiki page, or IRC would make me say "this will certainly work with ubuntu" [16:32] unless it says it on the box from the vendor... and even then, it can be tricky with kernel versions [16:33] holstein: well, the people who make stuff work in the kernel usually do it for the devices they own themselves [16:33] holstein: and they keep on maintaining it, so it's not really that likely to stop working, especially with things like graphic tablets that you don't really replace so often [16:33] yup.. and im not "complaining" about the support.. im just saying, things can become "unsupportable" [16:34] holstein: I recently got a scanner for free, because there are no drivers for it for Vista, but it works perfectly fine on linux [16:35] i have seen that with printers as well. i have also seen folks buy the "best supported" firewise device for ubuntustudio, and an update breaks the support [16:35] I think you are more likely to have your hardware go out of support for windows than for linux [16:35] no one can "fix" it, since its not broken.. its ust situationally not supportable [16:35] firewise? [16:36] firewire* [16:36] i can also agree with that statement.. that is it more "likely".. still, i save my reciepts [16:36] that closed, patented Apple protocol? [16:36] agreed that investing in closed protocols is risky [16:36] there is also the factor of me being able to get the device working [16:37] TheSheep: ffado is the linux firewire stack, and its arguable that anything else is capable of handling pro audio [16:37] anything that is easily supportable, and able to be used on laptops and desktops.. going between the 2 [16:37] usb 3 perhaps? [16:37] the firewire was just an example.. hardware support *does* leave the kernel [16:37] and why do you need pro audio for your printer? [16:38] ;) [16:40] holstein http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index_old.php/main gives me hope... [16:41] Aiena: actually you want http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Main_Page [16:42] Aiena: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=USB_Tablets_with_Touch [16:43] oh cool sounds supported from the looks of it I think then I don't have to worry. :) [16:44] Aiena: by the way, have you considered tablets by other companies? [16:45] Aiena: wacom is popular and well known, but rather expensive [16:45] TheSheep I have a tablet by another cmpany which I cannot use linux seems to have best support for wacom over others [16:45] (then again, other tablets are probably not well supported on linux) [16:45] yeah, which is a shame [16:45] No Digimend supports only some [16:45] wacom is an ugly monopolist :( [16:45] and I think wacom tablets are the most used tablets === bluesabr1 is now known as bluesabre [16:46] even krita use only wacom for testing [16:46] they are [16:46] so that sort of says something... === topyli_ is now known as topyli [17:33] I'm back! Anybody know what this means: http://pastebin.com/HH8YRnvP [17:37] Oops: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799171/ [17:38] is pithos installed from repositories? [17:38] Ubuntu Software Center so, yes(?) [17:39] yup, so I guess you're missing gstreamer plugins [17:40] I tried to install them though and it said it was up to date, so it didn't do anything. [17:40] I tried saying: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-alsa [17:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799179/ [17:42] how to join a wpa2 secured wireless network with AES encryption? [17:42] i cant get it to work on our institute [17:43] it did work in the past, and sysadmin says only AES encryption is working anymore [17:46] doebi: are you using network-manager? [17:52] I ran: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-alsa but have the same issue. === Gil is now known as Guest2304 [17:55] flux242: well, i think so [17:55] it should work then [17:56] it doesn't :/ [17:56] and i cant adjst brightness either [17:57] the 13.04 release was a pure disappointment [17:57] even my duplicate bluetooth icon isn't fixed yet [17:57] can anyone please tell me how to fix my screensaver in lubuntu -- it doesn't activate, even tho the settings are set for it to [17:58] Anybody can help with pithos and gstreamer? Sorry for bumping. [18:01] mikubuntu: Head for #lubuntu with that.. [18:01] mikubuntu: (This is #xubuntu) [18:01] You talking to me? lol [18:02] ty sonik, i din't know they had a channel [18:04] Anybody know anything about gstreamer? === cruxeter1us is now known as cruxeternus [18:05] TheSheepseems to be suppDistrot what is the issue? [18:05] Distrot what is the issue? [18:06] you cant play media files wit it? [18:06] *can't [18:06] Aiena: I am trying to get Pithos to work in Xubuntu 13.04, but it won't grab the songs despite accessing the stations. [18:06] Aiena: I ran pithos -v and got the following: [18:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799171/ [18:07] hmmm [18:07] Aiena: Then I tried to update gstreamer, as that seemed to be the issue: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-alsa [18:07] can gstreamer on your pc play normal mmedia files? [18:07] Aiena: But I still don't get anything working. [18:08] Aiena: Well, I don't really know. I thought it was just a plugin. [18:08] Distrot try using synaptic to purge gstreamer [18:08] and then use install again [18:08] also sometimes the issue is missing codecs etc. [18:08] mp3 is not installed by default. [18:09] and most online radio is in mp3 or aac [18:09] You think that might be the issue? [18:09] Ahh... the mp3 codec, that makes sense... [18:09] yes probably [18:09] if that does not work then looking into something else [18:10] Distrot is the gstreamer fluendo plugin installed 0 check in synaptic [18:11] Aiena: One sec, por favor [18:12] Distrot also you can try installing the python-gst0.10-rtsp package [18:12] Distrot sure :) [18:14] Aiena: Well, I just installed the restricted packages and tried Pithos again to no avail [18:14] Distrot also you can try installing the python-gst0.10-rtsp package [18:14] assuming your using 12.04 [18:14] otherwise you might have a newer rtsp package [18:14] Aiena: I'm using 13.04 [18:14] well 13.04 works quite good for me. Double bluetooth icon appears because 2 apps are started at start up. Just disactivate one of them. Leave blueman [18:15] ok then youll have a higher version [18:15] but same package [18:15] Aiena: It seems to be working anyway [18:15] hmm it ok now? [18:15] Aiena: nope, same situation [18:16] Aiena: Dumb question, how do I use synaptic on 13.04? [18:17] its not there [18:17] ok press alt+F2 [18:17] and type synaptic [18:18] you should find it that way too [18:18] Uhh... [18:18] Red circle with white bar inside? lol [18:18] abd on the top [18:18] THERE IS A SERCH BOX [18:18] abd? [18:18] sorry for the caps [18:19] there is a search box [18:19] type python gstreamer there [18:19] In synaptic or application finder? [18:19] synaptic [18:19] the package manager [18:19] one sec [18:20] I'm familiar with it, but, does it go under the name "Software & Updates" in 13.04? [18:20] Forgive me, I am slightly stupid. [18:21] Distrot I am not following you also I am using the LTS version so not sure about changes in 13.04 [18:21] 13.04 is a year newer than my distro [18:22] give me a sec to boot it up in live mode and Ill brb [18:22] Right, Pangolin, but I dunno which one... ok. [18:22] Distrot Ill rejoin irc from xubuntu 13.04 so I can attempt to help you better. [18:34] back [18:34] Distrot, I think you need to install synaptic first in 13.04 [18:34] I ma on 13.04 live boot [18:35] Oh... ok. Doing it now. [18:36] *am [18:37] Ok. I gots it. [18:38] Distrot, which software were you trying to use again? [18:39] and can you repost the link to the error message [18:39] pithos [18:39] I lost the earlier info when I rebooted into 13.04 [18:39] Right [18:39] Aiena: I am trying to get Pithos to work in Xubuntu 13.04, but it won't grab the songs despite accessing the stations. [18:40] Aiena: I ran pithos -v and got the following: [18:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799171/ [18:40] Aiena: Then I tried to update gstreamer, as that seemed to be the issue: sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-alsa [18:40] Distrot, you need to remove 0.10 in that case [18:40] Aiena: I'm using 13.04 [18:41] if you want to use 1.0 [18:41] Really? [18:41] Distrot, still o.10 is installed by default not 1.0 [18:41] I have 0.10 fluendo as well [18:41] then dont update to gstreamer 1.0 [18:41] Should I just remove 1.0 [18:41] yes [18:41] I'll just remove it then [18:41] remove everythin 1.0 please [18:41] they must be conflicting [18:41] Removing... [18:42] I am installing piyhos myself on my live distro to see [18:42] 1.0 and 0.10 work fine to have both. [18:42] *pithos [18:42] Unit193, Ok [18:42] but pithos is downloading gstremer 0.10 libs so I dont see the need for 1.0 [18:42] when I am installing [18:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799375/ [18:43] That's the error I get now [18:43] Same as before [18:43] Distrot, installing pithos [18:44] Okee doke. [18:44] then I can try to replicate the error here and fix it and then tell you what to do.. [18:44] rather than beat around the bush. [18:44] Ok. Sorry if I seem annoying. I appreciate what you're doing. [18:44] no your not annoying [18:44] iys just that I've never used pithos before. [18:44] and I use vlc for all my media needs [18:45] Really? Oh. [18:45] I use Minitube as well... [18:45]