manchickenI just ran three miles in the rain... I'm cold and wet.00:04
manchickenAnd for some reason I'm thinking of ice cream. And automated testing.00:04
manchickenshadeslayer: You around?00:04
* ScottK had to walk about a mile in new leather shoes today.00:06
ScottKgot blisters on the way there.00:06
ScottKDecided to carry my shoes on the way back.00:06
ScottKSo now I have blisters and the soles of my feet are burned.00:06
ScottKFun day.00:07
manchickenWhere are you?00:07
ScottKI was in Washington, DC today.00:07
ScottKHottest day of the year so far.00:07
manchickenI wish Garmin supported GNU/Linux.00:07
manchickenI don't want to boot into win8 to upload my run data.00:07
ScottKOf course what I call "hottest day of the year", shadeslayer probably calls "winter".00:07
yofelhere it's 11°C outside right now (2AM), last week we had 38. Not good for your health -.-00:08
manchickenI've got 21°C right now00:09
manchickenThat's after the rain. It dropped 10°C easily in the rain.00:09
ScottKWe tot to 33 today.00:10
yofelsame climate, huh.00:10
manchickenI'd love to start looking at this testing stuff that shadeslayer mentioned earlier, but I don't know what all we're doing with it.00:17
ahoneybunhey valorie are you editing the getting involved page for the forums?02:39
valorieno, I didn't know if that stuff had been deliberately removed, or just overlooked02:41
ahoneybunit says that you are editing02:41
valorieI'm editing it, so I'll think about a way to add that back02:41
ScottKRiddell: I think amor and ktux (like many other of the packages) the -dbg should depend on the package.02:41
valorieI added a list at one point, but it's been removed02:41
ahoneybunI was going to fix that but it says your editing or were02:45
valorieif you have the links at hand, feel free02:50
valorieI just fixed some typo or something02:50
ahoneybunI'm going to relax want watch netflix, I'll work on that later02:54
ScottKI've started a kde-workspace build on the reconstituted armhf boxes to work on the FTBFS.05:03
soeegood morning06:03
valoriedid you get your install all fixed, soee?06:06
soeevalorie, i ended up with fresh install06:11
valorieeasier, for sure06:11
valorietoo bad it couldn't be fix00red though06:12
soeevalorie, probably it could be but i would have to play with chroot etc. and as i needed my machine for my work i had to do it quickly06:14
valorieI see06:15
ScottKJust uploaded an FTBFS fix for kde-workspace.06:47
ScottKGoing to bed.06:47
ScottKWould someone with KDE git access please commit http://launchpadlibrarian.net/143447462/kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu3_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu4.diff.gz upstream.07:04
smartboyhwOh, so the Kubuntu images still isn't in the ISO QA Tracker?07:52
smartboyhwRiddell, and libkscreen still doesn't work?07:53
smartboyhwEm, it did work out...07:54
smartboyhwAccording to PPA at least, can someone please review? (And help me to change the bug please, it's stil wrong:P)07:54
agateauScottK: committed08:15
smartboyhwBTW, can anyone make out what happened to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 ?08:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1066223 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kde ubiquity detects Sydney timezone but says Adelaide" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:56
smartboyhwI got some tester pinging about that.08:56
smartboyhwRiddell, anytime to check libkscreen for me?09:28
yofelif not I can do it after lunch -> ~1h09:39
ScottKagateau: Thanks.10:10
Toniohi there10:44
Toniolong...... long time no see ;)10:45
Toniohey ;)10:45
Tonioagateau : hi too ;)10:45
yofelhi Tonio10:49
Riddellbonjour Tonio, ca va?10:53
Toniofine and you ?10:53
Toniolong time no see my friend...10:53
Toniohow about the news ? still full time on kubuntu ?10:54
Riddelloui, je suis tres bien10:54
yofelRiddell, smartboyhw: I'm looking at libkscreen now10:54
TonioI left computing on my side10:54
Riddellyep, it's not done yet, lots to be done10:54
Tonionot only kubuntu, but everything10:54
RiddellTonio: oh?  did you take up wine making?10:54
TonioI'm now an e-cig vendor ;)10:54
Toniowww.espacevap.com that's the web shop10:54
TonioI got a SAAS type of shop to avoid commputing completly ;)10:55
Tonioudge difference in my life ;)10:55
* ScottK waves to Tonio10:56
Toniohey ScottK10:56
Tonioit was time for me to change an go for another life ;)10:56
TonioI always promissed myself to left computing before 45...10:56
TonioI just went 10 years sooner than expected10:56
Toniohow about you ScottK10:57
Riddellcomment ca va le bairn?10:57
ScottKRiddell: kde-workspace on armhf is now into shlibdeps, so I suspect there's a good chance it will succeed.  You should decide if you want to unblock kde-workspace for the Alpha or not.  I'll be offline ~all day, so it's up to you.10:59
Riddellhmm thought I'd done that already10:59
Toniogood point : I really quit smoking this time ;)10:59
TonioRiddell what is the "bairn" ? don't know that word...11:00
RiddellTonio: ecossais pour un bébé11:00
Tonioah ;)11:00
Tonioshe's the cutest, let me show you11:01
smartboyhwyofel, sure:)11:02
Tonioshe's got a little scar on those photos, which disapeared since...11:02
yofelsmartboyhw: I rewrote your changelog a bit. a) Changelog entries are never past-tense. b) rather use proper english than sticking to keywords -> "Make libkscreen1 break/replace libkscreen0", sounds much better than "Make libkscreen1 breaks/replaces libkscreen0"11:02
yofelsmartboyhw: here's the new one: http://paste.kde.org/78311611:03
TonioRiddell she's really amazing, but well.... every parent would say this ;)11:03
TonioRiddell how about you, when are you gonna be a father, is that planned ?11:03
smartboyhwyofel, ACK. (Meh, I do score good in Engilsh, but I didn't thought of tenses in changelogs:P)11:03
RiddellTonio: ooh la la11:03
Riddell<nim> unless something goes very very wrong never11:04
yofelsmartboyhw: think of it as action items "do a, add x to y, modify z"11:04
RiddellTonio: I think you scared her :)11:04
smartboyhwyofel, check.11:04
TonioRiddell :)11:04
ScottKTonio: Still keeping busy.  $work is keeping me more offline recently.  In fact, I have to go now.11:05
ScottKRiddell: You did unblock it.11:05
smartboyhwRiddell, you still haven't respinned the Kubuntu builds to make it appear on Alpha 1 page?11:05
yofelnow to actually try to build it...11:05
RiddellTonio: question, Nim here thinks in France there is a list of names that you have to pick from to name your child, I don't think that's true of France is it?11:05
ScottKSo once it is done building, it should be good.11:05
TonioScottK ok I'll be online toonight so we can discuss a bit ;)11:06
yofelsmartboyhw: I think we still don't have 4.11 together in the archive11:06
TonioRiddell nope that's not true11:06
smartboyhwyofel, 4.11 what?11:06
yofelsmartboyhw: 4.10.80 package for saucy11:06
smartboyhwyofel, yeah.11:06
yofelif you spin images now you'll get a mess11:06
Toniobut if your name reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally doesn't seem appropriate, government can  refuse11:06
smartboyhwThanks to armhf:P11:06
yofelyeah :/11:06
Tonioaka : you can't name your child "analsex" for example11:06
smartboyhwGuys, http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/kubuntu-buildstatus.htm11:07
TonioRiddell but appart from that, you can use a flower name if you want ;)11:07
smartboyhwyofel, we might not have time for Alpha 1 then.11:07
smartboyhwIt's Wednesday already:P11:07
ScottKTonio: Should be.11:08
Riddellsmartboyhw: I think that script is a bit out of date, I want to set it up on qa.kubuntu.co.uk but that needs to work out postgresql first11:08
smartboyhwRiddell, oh.11:08
ScottKRiddell: Actually the version in the unblock needed updating.  I fixed it.11:08
yofelRiddell: it's not really out of date, but IIRC it can't track -proposed. That would be nice to have11:08
Riddellyofel: right that's the one11:09
ScottKsmartboyhw: Not thanks to armhf.  Thanks to gcc-4.8.  That's where the bug is.11:09
Riddellwe still need kde-baseapps and kde-workspace and preferably rekonq in the archive11:09
smartboyhwScottK, ah.11:09
* Riddell adds force for kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu411:12
Riddellnow what is going on with kdepim?11:12
ScottKRiddell: It needs force-autopkgtest - I just added it.11:12
ScottKI'm off.11:12
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas most of 4.10.80 in saucy, moving ones stuck in -proposed to -release, raring: kubuntu-ppa/beta | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed
TonioRiddell still sponsored to work on the distro ?11:16
smartboyhwTonio, yes.11:17
smartboyhwBlue Systems replaced the sponsorship.11:17
Toniook smartboyhw ;) by the way who are you ? should I know you with another nick ?11:20
smartboyhwTonio, no. Just this nick. I'm a rather new packager around here. A Kubuntu member but not yet an official dev. Been actively working within Ubuntu for a year or so. Now I'm an active ISO tester at QA Team and also Ubuntu Studio (another Ubuntu flavour)'s release manager:)11:21
Toniook ;) I'm an oooooooooold contributor11:21
Toniobut didn't do much for 2 / 2.5 years now11:21
TonioI was core-dev long ago11:21
smartboyhwTonio, nice to meet you:)11:21
Tonionice to meet you too ;)11:21
smartboyhwHey wait, why did so many old contributors came back to visit the channel at June?11:22
Toniothere were others that came back ?11:23
TonioI saw allee is connected, rgreening aswell...11:23
yofelmanchicken was here the last few days 11:23
TonioI think wheather is horrible, people  get nostalgic, maybe ;)11:23
Toniooh yeah manchicken, of course ;)11:24
RiddellI don't get this   From wrong source: kdepim-strigi-plugins 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 (4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 not 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1) 11:24
Riddellsomething has moved source package?11:25
yofelnope, it simply ceased to exist11:25
Riddellhmm, maybe it wants me to add a transitional11:26
yofelhm, maybe because kubuntu-desktop recommends it?11:27
Riddellgosh so it does11:27
RiddellI'll remove that11:27
yofelhow much do we care about accurate copyright files again?11:28
* yofel wonders whether he has to send smartboyhw to copyright file fixing or not11:28
Riddell"lots" but mostly only when going through New11:28
yofelwell, this would be binary NEW11:29
yofelfor libkscreen111:29
Riddelldepends who reviews it, that ScottK chap is pretty harsh11:29
yofelwell, it's a small package and it'll be some good exercise11:30
smartboyhwMeh, someone should make a checklist.....11:30
yofelsmartboyhw: dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/tmp/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc11:31
yofelfine except for some outdated copyright information11:31
smartboyhwMeh, I'm blocked for testing now...11:32
yofelI doubt we would get it in for a1 anyway, so just ping when you're done11:33
smartboyhwyofel, we won't. Certainly.11:33
smartboyhwyofel, http://paste.kde.org/783140/ ?11:41
BluesKaj_Howdy all11:43
yofelsmartboyhw: ack, but cmake/modules/* is missing11:44
yofeland the package doesn't ship a COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file :(11:44
yofelsmartboyhw: add the copyright info and we'll try to get it in without the file. I'll add it upstream so it's in the next release11:46
smartboyhwyofel, ACK. Doing.11:46
yofelsmartboyhw: http://commits.kde.org/libkscreen/e5007a9cd1f0aea39fa2ae20880bb8d9cb798634, that's BSD-3-Clause btw.11:50
smartboyhwyofel, http://paste.kde.org/783152/11:55
yofelsmartboyhw: ship it11:56
smartboyhwyofel, alright:)11:56
smartboyhwyofel, uploading a new version to another PPA (yeah) with a new changelog (present tense) describing the copyright file change and the new file, along with the patch needed to add the file.12:04
smartboyhwyofel, dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/linux-lowlatency/+files/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc12:06
smartboyhwDamn, I forgot to add the patch has.12:06
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "Damn, I forgot to add the patch hash."12:06
smartboyhwUh oh, yofel you need to do the changelog change to add back the patch commit for me:(12:07
smartboyhwI mean, commit no.12:07
yofelsmartboyhw: nah, the patch itself has it, that's enough. it just should be *somewhere*12:08
smartboyhwyofel, :)12:08
smartboyhwyofel, \o/12:10
* smartboyhw goes running everywhere:P12:10
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shadeslayernot having to press two keys to do page up and page down totally rocks12:40
shadeslayerstupid MBP keyboardf12:40
shadeslayerI also get to relearn how to type properly on my shiny new keyboard, so please forgive typos for the next few days12:41
ScottKRiddell: I got the unblock wrong for baseapps. package needs to be pango1.0, not pango.  Can you fix in my hints file?12:57
* Riddell looks13:02
RiddellScottK: I see nothing about pango in there13:03
Riddellonly my jriddell:force-autopkgtest kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu13:03
ScottKYou need to force pango1.0, not baseapps13:13
shadeslayerdoes this make any sense to you : http://i.imgur.com/iQLkO8p.png13:14
ScottKmaybe I forgot to push before I left.13:15
yofelshadeslayer: well, same here...13:15
shadeslayeromg <3 having page up and page down buttons13:15
shadeslayera full keyboard feels so much more comfy13:16
yofela mac has none? ^^13:16
shadeslayeryou use fn + arrow keys13:17
shadeslayerwhich I accidentally discovered13:17
yofelah, same as on my eeePC then 13:17
shadeslayeryofel: not to mention this is a mechanical keyboard :D13:17
shadeslayermy mac keys feel so mushy now -.-13:18
yofelnow you sound like a collegue I have at work. He's a total fan of mechanical keyboards13:18
shadeslayerI don't see why not13:18
yofelI like them for personal use, but in an office it's kind of annoying13:18
shadeslayeryeah well,I get to annoy apol, afiestas_ and vHanda soon13:19
shadeslayermaybe me and afiestas_ can have competitions on who can make more nouice13:19
shadeslayeryou know what I mean13:19
shadeslayervHanda: I have a TVS gold13:19
shadeslayermakes alot of noce13:19
vHandaah. Mechanical keyboard13:19
vHandaplease get a silent one13:19
vHandait's bloody annoying13:19
vHandathat's half the reason why we used to have music in the office13:20
shadeslayertoo late13:20
vHandasomeone might accidentely drop something on it13:21
vHandabe careful13:21
shadeslayerI wrote my class 12 C++ project using the Borland IDE using this :P13:21
vHandawhat was it? a library manager?13:21
shadeslayersome sort of database manager that had pretty graphics, yes :P13:21
shadeslayeryeah, I know, very stereotypical13:22
smartboyhwyofel, heh, anytime for https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/2buntu/+files/kscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc ?13:22
shadeslayerbut hey, it had pretty graphics!13:22
smartboyhwJust review it first:)13:22
yofelsmartboyhw: unless someone else does it, I'll do it after lib is through NEW13:22
smartboyhwyofel, sure. No worries:)13:22
shadeslayereveryone had shitty graphics, mine had the equivalent of QLineEdits and comboboxes and what not13:23
shadeslayeralso had a easter egg13:23
smartboyhwshadeslayer, LOL13:23
yofelcouldn't really have looked worse than the whack-a-mole kind of thing I wrote for class last year in java13:24
shadeslayerso, did everything move from -proposed in saucy?13:24
yofelI couldn't really think of something sensible that used JCanvas + Threads13:24
shadeslayer-> only knows one line of java : public static void main () { }13:25
shadeslayerI don't even recall if that mandates arguments ^_^13:25
yofelthat won't compile without a class around it :P13:25
yofel(String[] args)13:25
shadeslayerah right13:25
yofelthe game is actually kinda fun in the end. You're playing whack-a-mole with swing as it eats the mouse events. (threading swing drawing while swing is single-threaded doesn't work that well)13:26
shadeslayerThe following packages have been kept back:13:30
shadeslayer  plasma-widget-networkmanagement13:30
yofelsounds like workspace isn't through13:30
shadeslayerinstalling ^ makes apt remove kde-workspace13:30
yofelthat's what apt usually does13:31
yofelesp. the first thing it likes killing is kde-workspace-bin13:31
shadeslayerany reason to keep workspace in -proposed? or is LP just being slow in migrating it13:32
yofelautopkgtest for ubiquity 2.15.8: RUNNING 13:32
yofelIgnoring block request by jriddell, due to unblock request by jriddell 13:33
shadeslayerI don't quite follow what that means :S13:33
smartboyhwyofel, that was just I wanted to post:P13:33
smartboyhwVery funny:P13:33
yofelshadeslayer: I think britney runs the autopkgtests for all packages that use the migrated package to check whether something breaks13:34
* yofel doesn't know too much about those tests13:34
shadeslayerI see13:34
smartboyhwThat's actually cjwatson's fault (really)13:34
shadeslayer'fault' ?13:35
xnoxsure which may or may not be working correctly. ask on #ubuntu-release if you believe it got stuck13:35
xnoxsmartboyhw: it's nobody's fault, simply we are all still learning how autopkgtests reverse dependancy checks operate and we are tweaking them as we hit corner cases, when something doesn't operate the way it's intended.13:36
xnoxthere are hints release team can apply to skip autopkgtests.13:36
xnoxRiddell: ScottK: ^^^13:36
smartboyhwxnox, alright then:)13:38
* Riddell adds force for pango1.013:49
smartboyhwforce!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!13:50
* Riddell uses the force13:50
smartboyhwyofel, the package is through NEW :P14:12
smartboyhwAlbeit, it's just accepted and won't move into -release.14:12
shadeslayertsdgeos: ping14:14
shadeslayertsdgeos: seems like krunner auto prepends "search" to the string14:14
shadeslayerso maybe I can do : "Search for IETF RFC foo"14:15
Riddellawooga kde-baseapps in14:20
yofelsmartboyhw: yay, that's really all I care about for now14:20
smartboyhwRiddell, awooga14:20
smartboyhwyofel, :)14:20
Riddellbut I still don't get kdepim14:21
smartboyhwRiddell, meh:(14:21
yofelwhy's that only kdepim/armhf btw.14:24
Riddellhmm kdepim/armhf is pending publication for 16 hours14:25
smartboyhwRiddell, calligra fail.14:29
smartboyhw/usr/share/hicolor/icons/1024x1024/apps/calligrakrita.png appeared in both krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu3 and krita
Riddellsmartboyhw: try calligra 1:2.6.92-0ubuntu6 in -proposed14:30
smartboyhw-0ubuntu6 !!?!?!?!?!?14:30
smartboyhwWhoa that's a big difference;P14:30
Riddellcalligra has failed more than once14:32
yofel6 isn't high when we're talking about arm14:33
* smartboyhw remembers pushing it to -5 or -8?14:34
smartboyhwI really forgotten.14:34
smartboyhwRiddell, no. It still failed.14:36
smartboyhwStill, krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu6 and krita 2.6.3-0ubuntu214:37
Riddellsmartboyhw: fancy fixing it in bzr?14:37
smartboyhwRiddell, bzr only? OK.14:38
yofelbzr is the easiest way to upload from14:38
yofellibkscreen finally got published14:38
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell from what I'm seeing here, the best method is to let krita-data break krita-14:39
smartboyhwkrita-data breaks/replaces krita (<< 2.6.3-0ubuntu2)14:39
yofel2.6.3-0ubuntu2 still has the old file layout14:39
yofelyou probably want << 2.6.9214:40
smartboyhwyofel, OK.14:40
ahoneybunRiddell: does digikam still need building?14:41
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel check the bzr branch.14:42
yofelahoneybun: from what I see, yes. Be warned that it's a rather large package. (size and built time wise, difficultiy wise it's not too hard)14:44
yofelassign bug 1192920 to you if you want to try it14:44
ubottubug 1192920 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Please update digikam to 3.3.0-beta2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119292014:44
smartboyhwahoneybun, try it:)14:44
ahoneybunyofel: only issue is I'm not on saucy14:44
Riddellsmartboyhw: looking14:44
Riddellahoneybun: chroot works, or I can give you an ec214:44
ahoneybunI would need a bit of a walk though14:45
* smartboyhw now tries to beat ahoneybun (LOL)14:45
ahoneybunbut sure ;)14:45
ahoneybunyofel: I got a 1 TB hdd lol14:45
ahoneybunwhat smartboyhw lol14:46
smartboyhwahoneybun, really?14:46
Riddellahoneybun: want me to take you through? would take an hour or two14:46
ahoneybunRiddell: I'm waiting around doing nothing really anyway lol14:46
yofela new packager \o/14:47
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: really what?14:47
smartboyhwahoneybun, 1TB!14:47
Riddellahoneybun: lp account?14:47
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: well that what it says14:47
smartboyhwahoneybun, ....14:47
ahoneybunRiddell: ~aaronhoneycutt14:47
Riddellyofel: don't get too excited, we don't want to distract him too much from docs :)14:47
yofeloh, good point14:47
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: you know they are never really what size they say always  a bit lest14:48
ahoneybunRiddell: I like to be useful for more then one thing, also working on one package will not kill me lol14:48
smartboyhwahoneybun, maybe try QA:P14:48
* Riddell starts an ec214:49
* smartboyhw challenges ahoneybun :)14:49
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: I guess I could test on my macbook14:49
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: but one thing at a time ;)14:49
smartboyhwahoneybun, yeah sure:)14:49
smartboyhwahoneybun, Riddell hmm it sounds like a big version leap. NOt good.14:51
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: digikam?14:51
smartboyhwahoneybun, yeah14:52
smartboyhw3.1.0 -> 3.3.0-beta214:52
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: that is a big one14:52
yofel3.2 -> 3.3-b214:52
Riddellit's less than 0.2 better14:52
smartboyhwEven worse; 3.2 fails with armhf14:53
yofelbecause I never got around to fix it. 3.3 won't be any worse at least14:54
* smartboyhw thinks it might be worse.14:54
shadeslayer-> dinner14:54
Riddellahoneybun: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com14:57
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel uploaded -0ubuntu7 for calligra yet/14:57
Riddellahoneybun: run  byobu14:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: just about to14:57
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah:)14:57
smartboyhwInstalling build-deps for digikam14:58
smartboyhwActually digikam does take a long time so if I succeed within this hour I will O-mouth.14:58
ahoneybunfreaky and cool all at once14:58
Riddellsmartboyhw: wait, are you doing digikam too?14:58
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm challenging:P14:58
* smartboyhw vs. ahoneybun :)14:59
* ahoneybun is confused14:59
yofelfix the arm build instead :P14:59
smartboyhwyofel, I don't know ARM.14:59
smartboyhwThat's the issue,14:59
Riddellsmartboyhw: mm why are we duplicating?14:59
smartboyhwI rather want every computer in the world to be 64- or 128-bit.14:59
smartboyhwRiddell, because I am having fun:P14:59
smartboyhwAnd I'm waiting for a re-spin from Kylin.15:00
Riddellsmartboyhw: how about doing simon instead?15:00
smartboyhwRiddell, I gave the job to you so no:P15:00
smartboyhwSpeaking of that, I have an interview to post.15:00
Riddellahoneybun: well anyway download the current digikam into a directory (I call it current)15:00
ahoneybunok 15:02
Riddellahoneybun: on the ec215:02
ahoneybunI know ;) http://www.digikam.org/download?q=download/GIT?15:02
ahoneybunI made /home/ubuntu/digikam/current15:03
Riddellapt-get source 15:03
Riddelland in another dir wget http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-3.2.0.tar.bz215:04
ahoneybunapt-get source digikam?15:04
Riddellthat'll do it15:04
yofelthat ec2 does have proposed enabled, yes? otherwise that'll get 3.115:04
Riddellgood point, ahoneybun enable proposed first15:05
ahoneybunso in /digikam run apt-get source and then in the current dir run the wget?15:05
ahoneybunRiddell: sources.list?15:05
* yofel would just take the packaging from bzr15:05
Riddellyes, once you've added -proposed to sources.list15:05
Riddelloh yes it is in bzr, so best to checkout lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam15:06
ahoneybunlets take this one step at a time..15:06
ahoneybunis the sources.list not in /etc/apt/?15:07
Riddellahoneybun: yes it is15:07
ahoneybunno apt dir15:07
Riddellahoneybun: voila15:08
ahoneybunI did not see it15:08
ahoneybunok so what now15:08
RiddellI just got a request to backport Amarok 2.7.1 for raring, anyone want to take it on?15:08
Riddellahoneybun: copy and paste the saucy-updates lines and change to saucy-proposed15:09
ahoneybunnano does not have c and p lol15:09
yofel     2:2.7.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 015:09
yofel         50 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages15:09
yofelamarok ^15:09
Riddellahoneybun: control k  control u15:10
Riddellyofel: I guess he's talking about official backports15:10
ahoneybunRiddell: already did it without that lol anyway 15:11
yofelah. it could probably even be an SRU if someone wants to do the paperwork15:11
Riddellahoneybun: keep -updates too15:11
yofelnot too many changes15:11
ahoneybunRiddell: wait so have both -updates and -proposed?15:11
ahoneybundouble then change15:12
Riddellahoneybun: voila15:12
ahoneybunRiddell: you know its like you are doing for me lol15:12
ahoneybunwell I did not sudo it15:12
Riddelloh foo15:12
Riddellnano doesn't warn about that15:12
ahoneybunRiddell: I will get it now!15:12
ahoneybunRiddell: want to double check/.15:16
Riddellahoneybun: good15:16
ahoneybunsudo apt-get update?15:16
Riddellahoneybun: yep15:16
ahoneybunI know that much! lo15:16
smartboyhwGuys, digikam will fail.15:17
smartboyhwOpenCV's version is TOO LOW15:17
smartboyhw2.4.2 in archive, 2.4.3 required.15:18
yofelit's optional though I believe15:18
Riddellnice to keep it though15:19
ahoneybunRiddell: apt-get source?15:19
Riddellahoneybun: yeah15:19
Riddellinside current/15:19
smartboyhwyofel, no it isn't15:20
ahoneybunRiddell: pulls 3.2.0-015:20
smartboyhwBecause of that klibface can't be compiled15:20
smartboyhwAnd it fails.15:20
smartboyhwRiddell, ahoneybun ^15:20
ahoneybunRiddell: needs dpkg-dev package extra 104 mbs15:20
Riddellahoneybun: go for it15:21
ahoneybunok double checking15:21
ahoneybunnot my server ll15:21
smartboyhwCMake Warning at extra/libkface/CMakeLists.txt:81 (MESSAGE):15:21
smartboyhw  OpenCV: Version is too old.15:21
smartboyhwCMake Error at extra/libkface/CMakeLists.txt:166 (MESSAGE):15:21
smartboyhw  LibKface cannot be compiled.15:21
smartboyhwRiddell, ahoneybun yofel ^15:21
ahoneybunlooks like it15:21
yofellet me fetch the source and read the cmake config15:22
Riddellwhat is libkface?15:23
ahoneybunRiddell: looks like it got it 15:23
yofelface recognition stuff15:23
Riddellah part of digikam15:23
yofel opencv | 2.4.3+dfsg-1     | experimental | source15:23
yofelsomeone merge that15:23
Riddellahoneybun: groovy, now download the new tar15:24
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell ahoneybun ELSE(OpenCV_FOUND)15:24
smartboyhw    MESSAGE(FATAL_ERROR "LibKface cannot be compiled.")15:24
Riddellgosh opencv looks like a beast15:24
Riddell78MB tar15:24
smartboyhwRiddell, :O15:24
ahoneybunRiddell: wget http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-3.2.0.tar.bz2 /home/ubuntu/digikam?15:24
smartboyhwahoneybun, no.15:25
ahoneybunyea I see15:25
smartboyhwThe new tar is in unstable:)15:25
smartboyhwWhy the hell does digikam require such a new version of opencv actually?15:25
Riddellahoneybun: you really need to learn about copy and paste15:26
ahoneybunRiddell: in nano only lol15:26
ahoneybunRiddell:  wget http://download.kde.org/unstable/digikam/digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz215:27
Riddellahoneybun: I'm going to insist on you using copy and paste15:27
Riddellahoneybun: go to http://download.kde.org/unstable/digikam/15:27
Riddellright click on  digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz215:27
RiddellCopy Link Location15:27
Riddellin terminal type wget  then press middle mouse button15:27
ahoneybunI got the link though15:27
Riddellyes you did, by typing it!15:28
* smartboyhw ALWAYS uses Ctrl+C Ctrl+V :P15:28
Riddellyay :)15:28
smartboyhwI do sometimes use typing though15:28
smartboyhwWhen I want to train it.15:28
yofelsmartboyhw: seems like they rewrote quite a bit with it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32076315:28
ahoneybunRiddell: I also used shift cont c to get it from the konsole to here15:28
ubottuKDE bug 320763 in libkface "build failed" [Grave,Resolved: fixed]15:28
ahoneybunRiddell: downloaded15:29
Riddellahoneybun: rename tar 15:30
Riddelldigikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2  needs to be15:30
Riddellpackaging is fussy about the tar name15:31
ahoneybundarn what that command for renaming15:31
Riddellmv  is a good one15:31
Riddellahoneybun: extract the tar15:31
ahoneybuntar  -xf something?15:32
smartboyhwyofel, yeah sure. Let us get that merged though, we can't do anything...15:33
smartboyhwtar -xjvf <tar.bz2>?15:33
Riddellahoneybun: yep15:33
* smartboyhw forgotten15:33
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: that worked15:34
yofelsmartboyhw: no need for j15:34
smartboyhwyofel, oh sorry.15:34
smartboyhwahoneybun, eh!?15:34
yofelnot with -x15:34
smartboyhwWhat's -j for actually?15:34
yofelbzip2 compression15:34
yofelbut -x auto-recognises the compression type15:35
smartboyhwyofel, oh really?15:35
smartboyhw-xjf only.15:35
ahoneybunwell I got it extraced15:35
Riddellahoneybun: copy the debian/ directory from the current package15:35
yofelso j is optional15:35
ahoneybunfrom the 3.3.0 ver? or 3.2.0?15:35
Riddellahoneybun: the 3.2.015:36
smartboyhwRiddell, heh? I use http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html15:36
smartboyhwIt does -0ubuntu1 versions, really:)15:36
ahoneybunRiddell: to where?15:37
Riddellahoneybun: to the 3.3.0 sources15:37
smartboyhwRiddell, you think that page (or the uupdate) isn't good enough?15:37
* smartboyhw likes tools,15:37
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* ahoneybun feels stupid15:38
Riddellsmartboyhw: I don't see much advantage and it's best to explain the steps that uupdate would be doing15:39
smartboyhwahoneybun, why?15:39
smartboyhwRiddell, oh alright15:39
lordievaderGood afternoon.15:39
Riddellahoneybun: cp -r15:39
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: cp command for copy no?15:39
ahoneybunI was using cp -v15:39
smartboyhwI think I was explained the procedure before, so I can use tools with understanding:)15:39
ahoneybunRiddell: done15:40
smartboyhwOh god, debate in -offtopic....15:40
Riddellahoneybun: in the 3.3.0 version run dch -i to add a new changelog15:40
Riddellsmartboyhw: anything offensive?15:40
RiddellI don't think I've ever been in -offtopic15:40
smartboyhwRiddell, not much, just ahoneybun and few others wanting Kubuntu to go Debian:P15:41
ahoneybunnot waiting, just thinking15:41
yofelmore others, really15:41
smartboyhwMore others, really15:41
ahoneybunRiddell: need the devscripts package15:42
Riddellahoneybun: I suggest you install it then :)15:43
ahoneybunRiddell: I don't like to install stuff on things that are not mine without telling at least15:43
shadeslayeryofel: BTW I took a look at the DMB meeting minutes, seems like dev alias is merely lacking a name?15:43
shadeslayeryofel: and cjwatson was given the greenlight to start working on adding the feature to LP15:44
Riddellahoneybun: it's an ec2, the whole point is it's a temporary machine we'll shut down when we're done with it15:45
smartboyhwshadeslayer, you are correct...15:45
Riddellso we can mess it up if we like and it's only our own time we're wasting15:45
yofelshadeslayer: \o/15:45
shadeslayertime + money15:45
ahoneybunRiddell: ok it opened up the changelog15:45
Riddellahoneybun: fix version, add entry, fix your name and e-mail15:45
Riddellahoneybun: it added that top entry as a template for you to fill in15:46
ahoneybunso change the 4:3.2.0 to the current?15:46
Riddellahoneybun: yes15:47
Riddellahoneybun: 3.3.0~beta1-0ubuntu115:48
Riddellahoneybun: the ~ is a magic character to mean the next bit is less as a number value15:49
Riddellso you can have 3.3.0~beta1 followed by 3.3.015:49
smartboyhwRiddell, isn't it beta2?15:49
ahoneybunfirst beta as a ubuntu package?15:49
Riddellahoneybun: smartboyhw is right, beta215:50
* smartboyhw doesn't think so...15:50
Riddellit's the upstream version number15:50
smartboyhwYeah, I'm correct!!!!15:50
ahoneybunRiddell: add entry?15:50
Riddellahoneybun: some text15:51
Riddell"new upstream release" next to the * is common15:51
ahoneybunlike the prevoius15:51
Riddelldunno if we have a bug no or not15:51
ahoneybunI see yofel wrote relase not release lol15:52
ahoneybunyofel: I fixed it ;)15:52
ahoneybunI know15:52
ahoneybunhappens a lot to me lol15:53
Riddellahoneybun: lovely save and quit15:53
ahoneybunRiddell: ok15:53
Quintasanhurp durp pbuilder is broken15:54
Quintasanor Debian mirrors are15:54
Riddellahoneybun: now check the patches15:55
Riddellquilt push   to push the first patch15:55
Riddellyou can look in debian/patches to see what's there first15:55
ahoneybunthere is 315:56
ahoneybun2 .diff15:56
Riddellahoneybun: quilt push  to apply the first one15:57
Riddellquilt is the tool to manage patches15:57
ahoneybunneed to install it lol15:57
* Riddell starts building new opencv, it is a beast15:57
ahoneybunseems it skipped them15:58
Riddellahoneybun: ah wrong directory you were running it from and it needs QUILT_PATCHES set15:59
Riddellahoneybun: run  quilt refresh15:59
Riddellthat'll stop any offset in the patches15:59
Riddellby refreshing the patch15:59
ahoneybunwhat dir?15:59
Riddellahoneybun: this one16:00
Riddellgroovy, now push the next patch16:00
Riddellrefresh it16:00
ahoneybunbut I was in that one16:00
Riddellnow we can build it16:01
Riddellrun  debuild16:01
ahoneybunoh I see now16:01
kubotuRiddell meant: "  debuild"16:01
smartboyhwBTW Riddell ahoneybun add valgrind as a build-dep please.16:02
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: how?16:02
smartboyhwahoneybun, Riddell will teach you:)16:02
Riddellhang on, we don't know it needs it yet16:02
Riddell"Unmet build dependencies"!16:02
ahoneybunoh my16:02
smartboyhw-- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h16:02
smartboyhw-- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h - not found16:03
smartboyhwRiddell, !?16:03
Riddellahoneybun: I use  /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends  to install them16:03
Riddellsmartboyhw: we've not got that far16:03
smartboyhwRiddell, I know, tellling you guys:)16:03
ahoneybunI dont think pbuilder is installed16:03
* Riddell wonders why ahoneybun's terminal is so narrow16:05
smartboyhwgood night guys. ahoneybun good luck with packaging:)16:05
ahoneybunRiddell: because I don't use it for much16:05
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: thanks! and gn16:06
* ahoneybun is scared that Riddell can see that16:06
Riddellahoneybun: you can see mine just as much, only the ssh into the ec2 server :)16:06
ahoneybunI don't see anything other then mine16:07
ahoneybunRiddell: when will we begin loading things onto the docs server?16:07
Riddellahoneybun: when we work out how I guess16:08
Riddellahoneybun: it's the stuff on wiki.kubuntu that needs copied?16:08
ahoneybunRiddell: just write html and css?16:08
Riddellahoneybun: and you'll be editing from wiki.kubuntu still presumably?16:08
ahoneybunyea I think the wiki has a copy to html function16:09
Riddellso we need a script that downloads from there, puts a nice headers and footer on and fixes any URLs for images or whatever16:09
Riddellmm interesting16:09
QuintasanWhatcha guys building?16:09
ahoneybunthere is not downloads just the text16:10
ahoneybunQuintasan: digikam16:10
QuintasanAh, have fun16:10
* Quintasan needs some tea16:10
Riddellahoneybun: ooh it's building!16:12
Riddellahoneybun: valgrind/valgrind.h too, search on packages.ubuntu.com for what package contains that file16:13
Riddellthen add it to build-depends in debian/control16:14
RiddellI've got opencv compiling here but it's only 50% done and I don't know if it'll be at all simple to finish it off16:14
ahoneybunthere is a valgrind package16:15
Riddellahoneybun: if that's the package with valgrind.h add it to debian/control16:16
ahoneybunvalgrind and valgrind-dbg16:16
ahoneybunI don't know about that though16:16
Riddellignore the -dbg16:16
Riddellawooga kde-workspace in16:17
Riddelldon't know how don't know when but it's in16:17
Riddelljust kdepim and okular to go16:18
Riddellahoneybun: remember the comma16:18
* ahoneybun is being watched16:19
* Riddell works for GCHQ16:19
Riddellahoneybun: save and debuild again16:19
Quintasanmfw dailies dont work16:22
Riddellmeeting for worship?  you a quaker now?16:22
QuintasanMy Face When16:22
RiddellQuintasan: what's that?16:23
Riddellahoneybun: and that's about as far as we can go until this opencv build is done16:23
ahoneybunRiddell: ok16:23
Riddellahoneybun: do look in debian/ to see what's actually in the packaging16:23
QuintasanRiddell: I should actually paste an image showing my reaction but I couldn't care about looking for one because there isn't one16:23
Quintasanktp-text-ui FAILS only on i38616:24
ahoneybunRiddell: what am I looking for?16:24
Quintasanwith some headers missing16:24
Riddellahoneybun: anything you like :)16:24
Riddellahoneybun: debian/control and debian/rules are important ones16:24
ahoneybunRiddell: oh you want to get used to the files16:24
Riddellahoneybun: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html has some explanations16:24
* Riddell out for 20 mins16:27
Riddellahoneybun: yo, I got opencv up17:18
ahoneybunI see you are working17:20
QuintasanRiddell: Can you sync wacomtablet from unstable?17:20
Riddellahoneybun: awooga, it's compiling17:20
ahoneybunI see17:20
RiddellQuintasan: sure but you need to file a bug (else the script won't work)17:21
Riddellahoneybun: well now to sit back and wait, this ec2 isn't very fast17:21
yofelahoneybun: btw. don't forget to close #1192920 in the changelog17:23
ahoneybunyofel: is that a bug?17:24
yofellp 119292017:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1192920 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Please update digikam to 3.3.0-beta2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119292017:24
yofeljust add (LP: #1192920) in the changelog 17:24
ahoneybunRiddell: can I change the log while it is compiling?17:26
Riddellahoneybun: the changelog?  yes17:27
yofelahoneybun: see as example http://paste.kde.org/783116/ to where to put it17:27
Riddellahoneybun: I guess my package of opencv was incomplete :(17:29
ahoneybun /debian/control?17:30
ahoneybungot it17:30
Riddellahoneybun: the bug number you put in debian/changelog17:30
Riddelloh well time to start another build of opencv, that'll be another hour or so it'll take and I need to go out now17:31
yofelcan you add me to the ec2?17:31
yofelthen I can help him for a while longer17:31
Riddellyofel: ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com17:32
Riddellyofel: I uploaded my opencv package but it's incomplete, misses that libopencv_superres.so and maybe others so feel free to complete it if you want17:32
yofelPermission denied (publickey).17:32
yofelwhich one did you add?17:32
yofeland what user?17:32
Riddellwget https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+sshkeys17:32
Riddellcat +sshkeys.1 >> authorized_keys17:33
Riddellwe're in byobu17:33
yofelare you building opencv, or...?17:34
Riddellyofel: I am locally but I'm about to go out so it's not much use for you17:34
Riddellyou can built it on the ec2 but it's slow it'll take all night17:35
RiddellI can make another ec2 if you want17:35
yofelnah, just upload the source and i'll build it here17:36
Riddellalthough I did try to do a higher cpu one, maybe my script it out of date17:36
Riddellyofel: it's in launchpad17:36
yofelok, I see it now, thanks17:37
ahoneybunyofel: how is it going?18:22
yofel[ 88%] Building CXX object modules/stitching/CMakeFiles/opencv_stitching.dir/src/seam_finders.cpp.o18:22
yofeldoesn't support building in parallel sadly :/18:22
yofelwould already be done then18:22
ahoneybunare you doing that on the same ec2?18:22
yofelnope, on my machine here which is faster18:24
ahoneybunoh so how are you going to get it on the ec2 so I can compile it 18:25
yofelI'll upload the debs with sftp once I'm done here18:25
ahoneybunok cool18:28
yofelahoneybun: done18:37
yofelyou can continue18:38
yofelthat... will take a *while*18:41
yofelthat's -./usr/lib/libopencv_superres.so.2.4.518:50
yofelfrom opencv list-missing :S18:50
ahoneybunI see19:18
yofeli hacked a quick package for that together, will take a few more minutes19:19
ScottKxnox: I know about force-autopackagetest. It's semantics are backward though.  I'm going to write a mail about it.19:29
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ahoneybunyofel: ok19:32
yofelahoneybun: done, now run 'debuild -nc' so it doesn't start from the beginning (nc is --no-clean)19:35
yofelok, building. *phew*19:36
ahoneybunok looks good19:46
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soeeanyone on 4.10.80 ?20:31
* ahoneybun hopes digikam 3.3.0 beta 2 will be built when he gets home from work21:04
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valoriecongratulations, ahoneybun!21:54
valorievery cool to have more packagers21:55
valorie!info libmygpo-qt22:52
ubottuPackage libmygpo-qt does not exist in raring22:52
valoriewhy not?22:52
valorieevery time I build amarok from git I notice I don't have an up-to-date version22:53
* Riddell publishes http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir22:53
Riddellooh bingo 22:53
Riddell!testers | new alpha 1 candidate images22:54
ubottunew alpha 1 candidate images: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.22:54
Riddellahoneybun: voila, compiled!22:54
Riddellvalorie: how's that blog post?22:56
valoriesec, I'll read; just got back from the post office and library22:57
valoriesensible manor should be manner22:58
valorieotherwise awesome!22:59
valorieI wonder how all the forks such as Mint will deal with MIR?23:00
valorieI was searching a bit last night and they seem to be Not In Favor23:00
ScottKRiddell: "Comes to Kubuntu @ Akademy"/"Come to Kubuntu @ Akademy"23:00
valorieoops, missed that23:00
* ScottK waits for the claim that it's proper Scottish English and since Scotland invented the language, it's correct.23:01
Riddellalthough that would have been a good excuse for it :)23:02
valorieperhaps Riddell was to the manor born23:02
ScottKPretty sure the whole manor thing is actually English.23:03
ScottKIIRC when those were going up Scotland tended to be more about fortified castles and stealing cattle.23:04
valoriethe Normans invaded Scotland too23:04
valorieScottK: and sheep!23:04
valorieeveryone forgets the sheep23:04
RiddellI do like paddling the Tweed for a good little invasion of England and some cattle russling23:05
valoriehow in the heck do you keep the cows from tipping over your kayak?23:08
Riddelloh we put the kayak on top of the cow23:09
Riddellputting the cow on the kayak would be just silly23:09
valoriego Bessie go!23:09
ScottKYou could tow the cow behind.23:09
Riddellno no, you guys have it all wrong, you can tow the kayak behind the cow23:10
Riddellsheesh, how did you ever rebel against the English?23:10
Riddellhi murthy, Quintasan, yofel 23:10
ScottKRiddell: Successfully.23:12
ScottKHow'd yours go?23:13
Riddellask me again in a year23:13
yofelRiddell: server power outage23:13
yofelmissed anything important?23:13
ScottKAdmittedly, the ocean between helped.23:13
Riddellyofel: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir23:13
Riddellawooga, alpha image installs23:32

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