[00:04] <manchicken> I just ran three miles in the rain... I'm cold and wet.
[00:04] <manchicken> And for some reason I'm thinking of ice cream. And automated testing.
[00:04] <manchicken> shadeslayer: You around?
[00:06]  * ScottK had to walk about a mile in new leather shoes today.
[00:06] <ScottK> got blisters on the way there.
[00:06] <ScottK> Decided to carry my shoes on the way back.
[00:06] <manchicken> Yuck.
[00:06] <ScottK> So now I have blisters and the soles of my feet are burned.
[00:07] <ScottK> Fun day.
[00:07] <manchicken> Weaksauce.
[00:07] <manchicken> Where are you?
[00:07] <ScottK> I was in Washington, DC today.
[00:07] <manchicken> Gotcha.
[00:07] <ScottK> Hottest day of the year so far.
[00:07] <manchicken> I wish Garmin supported GNU/Linux.
[00:07] <manchicken> I don't want to boot into win8 to upload my run data.
[00:07] <ScottK> Of course what I call "hottest day of the year", shadeslayer probably calls "winter".
[00:08] <manchicken> Heh
[00:08] <yofel> here it's 11°C outside right now (2AM), last week we had 38. Not good for your health -.-
[00:09] <manchicken> I've got 21°C right now
[00:09] <manchicken> That's after the rain. It dropped 10°C easily in the rain.
[00:10] <ScottK> We tot to 33 today.
[00:10] <yofel> same climate, huh.
[00:10] <ScottK> tot/got
[00:17] <manchicken> I'd love to start looking at this testing stuff that shadeslayer mentioned earlier, but I don't know what all we're doing with it.
[02:39] <ahoneybun> hey valorie are you editing the getting involved page for the forums?
[02:41] <valorie> no, I didn't know if that stuff had been deliberately removed, or just overlooked
[02:41] <ahoneybun> overlooked
[02:41] <valorie> ok
[02:41] <ahoneybun> it says that you are editing
[02:41] <valorie> I'm editing it, so I'll think about a way to add that back
[02:41] <ScottK> Riddell: I think amor and ktux (like many other of the packages) the -dbg should depend on the package.
[02:41] <valorie> I added a list at one point, but it's been removed
[02:43] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:45] <ahoneybun> I was going to fix that but it says your editing or were
[02:50] <valorie> if you have the links at hand, feel free
[02:50] <valorie> I just fixed some typo or something
[02:54] <ahoneybun> I'm going to relax want watch netflix, I'll work on that later
[02:56] <valorie> ok
[05:03] <ScottK> I've started a kde-workspace build on the reconstituted armhf boxes to work on the FTBFS.
[06:03] <soee> good morning
[06:06] <valorie> did you get your install all fixed, soee?
[06:11] <soee> valorie, i ended up with fresh install
[06:11] <valorie> easier, for sure
[06:12] <valorie> too bad it couldn't be fix00red though
[06:14] <soee> valorie, probably it could be but i would have to play with chroot etc. and as i needed my machine for my work i had to do it quickly
[06:15] <valorie> I see
[06:47] <ScottK> Just uploaded an FTBFS fix for kde-workspace.
[06:47] <ScottK> Going to bed.
[07:04] <ScottK> Would someone with KDE git access please commit http://launchpadlibrarian.net/143447462/kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu3_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu4.diff.gz upstream.
[07:52] <smartboyhw> Oh, so the Kubuntu images still isn't in the ISO QA Tracker?
[07:53] <smartboyhw> Riddell, and libkscreen still doesn't work?
[07:54] <smartboyhw> Em, it did work out...
[07:54] <smartboyhw> According to PPA at least, can someone please review? (And help me to change the bug please, it's stil wrong:P)
[08:15] <agateau> ScottK: committed
[08:56] <smartboyhw> BTW, can anyone make out what happened to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 ?
[08:56] <smartboyhw> I got some tester pinging about that.
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Riddell, anytime to check libkscreen for me?
[09:39] <yofel> if not I can do it after lunch -> ~1h
[09:54] <Quintasan> \o
[10:10] <ScottK> agateau: Thanks.
[10:44] <Tonio> hi there
[10:45] <Tonio> long...... long time no see ;)
[10:45] <Tonio> Riddell
[10:45] <Tonio> hey ;)
[10:45] <Tonio> agateau : hi too ;)
[10:49] <soee> bonjour
[10:49] <yofel> hi Tonio
[10:53] <Riddell> bonjour Tonio, ca va?
[10:53] <Tonio> fine and you ?
[10:53] <Tonio> long time no see my friend...
[10:54] <Tonio> how about the news ? still full time on kubuntu ?
[10:54] <Riddell> oui, je suis tres bien
[10:54] <yofel> Riddell, smartboyhw: I'm looking at libkscreen now
[10:54] <Tonio> I left computing on my side
[10:54] <Riddell> yep, it's not done yet, lots to be done
[10:54] <Tonio> not only kubuntu, but everything
[10:54] <Riddell> Tonio: oh?  did you take up wine making?
[10:54] <Tonio> I'm now an e-cig vendor ;)
[10:54] <Riddell> jings
[10:54] <Tonio> www.espacevap.com that's the web shop
[10:55] <Tonio> I got a SAAS type of shop to avoid commputing completly ;)
[10:55] <Tonio> udge difference in my life ;)
[10:56]  * ScottK waves to Tonio
[10:56] <Tonio> hey ScottK
[10:56] <Tonio> it was time for me to change an go for another life ;)
[10:56] <Tonio> I always promissed myself to left computing before 45...
[10:56] <Tonio> I just went 10 years sooner than expected
[10:57] <Tonio> how about you ScottK
[10:57] <Tonio> ?
[10:57] <Riddell> comment ca va le bairn?
[10:59] <ScottK> Riddell: kde-workspace on armhf is now into shlibdeps, so I suspect there's a good chance it will succeed.  You should decide if you want to unblock kde-workspace for the Alpha or not.  I'll be offline ~all day, so it's up to you.
[10:59] <Tonio> Riddell
[10:59] <Riddell> hmm thought I'd done that already
[10:59] <Tonio> good point : I really quit smoking this time ;)
[11:00] <Tonio> Riddell what is the "bairn" ? don't know that word...
[11:00] <Riddell> Tonio: ecossais pour un bébé
[11:00] <Tonio> ah ;)
[11:01] <Tonio> she's the cutest, let me show you
[11:01] <Tonio> http://photos.toniox.org/upload/2013/03/27/pwg_high/20130327125324-40751a16.jpg
[11:02] <smartboyhw> yofel, sure:)
[11:02] <Tonio> http://photos.toniox.org/upload/2013/04/11/pwg_high/20130411130441-71018f46.jpg
[11:02] <Tonio> she's got a little scar on those photos, which disapeared since...
[11:02] <yofel> smartboyhw: I rewrote your changelog a bit. a) Changelog entries are never past-tense. b) rather use proper english than sticking to keywords -> "Make libkscreen1 break/replace libkscreen0", sounds much better than "Make libkscreen1 breaks/replaces libkscreen0"
[11:03] <yofel> smartboyhw: here's the new one: http://paste.kde.org/783116
[11:03] <Tonio> Riddell she's really amazing, but well.... every parent would say this ;)
[11:03] <Tonio> Riddell how about you, when are you gonna be a father, is that planned ?
[11:03] <smartboyhw> yofel, ACK. (Meh, I do score good in Engilsh, but I didn't thought of tenses in changelogs:P)
[11:03] <Riddell> Tonio: ooh la la
 unless something goes very very wrong never
[11:04] <yofel> smartboyhw: think of it as action items "do a, add x to y, modify z"
[11:04] <Riddell> Tonio: I think you scared her :)
[11:04] <smartboyhw> yofel, check.
[11:04] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:04] <Tonio> Riddell :)
[11:05] <ScottK> Tonio: Still keeping busy.  $work is keeping me more offline recently.  In fact, I have to go now.
[11:05] <ScottK> Riddell: You did unblock it.
[11:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you still haven't respinned the Kubuntu builds to make it appear on Alpha 1 page?
[11:05] <yofel> now to actually try to build it...
[11:05] <Riddell> Tonio: question, Nim here thinks in France there is a list of names that you have to pick from to name your child, I don't think that's true of France is it?
[11:05] <ScottK> So once it is done building, it should be good.
[11:06] <Tonio> ScottK ok I'll be online toonight so we can discuss a bit ;)
[11:06] <yofel> smartboyhw: I think we still don't have 4.11 together in the archive
[11:06] <Tonio> Riddell nope that's not true
[11:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, 4.11 what?
[11:06] <yofel> smartboyhw: 4.10.80 package for saucy
[11:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah.
[11:06] <yofel> if you spin images now you'll get a mess
[11:06] <Tonio> but if your name reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally doesn't seem appropriate, government can  refuse
[11:06] <smartboyhw> Thanks to armhf:P
[11:06] <yofel> yeah :/
[11:06] <Tonio> aka : you can't name your child "analsex" for example
[11:07] <smartboyhw> Guys, http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/kubuntu-buildstatus.htm
[11:07] <Tonio> Riddell but appart from that, you can use a flower name if you want ;)
[11:07] <smartboyhw> yofel, we might not have time for Alpha 1 then.
[11:07] <smartboyhw> It's Wednesday already:P
[11:08] <ScottK> Tonio: Should be.
[11:08] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I think that script is a bit out of date, I want to set it up on qa.kubuntu.co.uk but that needs to work out postgresql first
[11:08] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh.
[11:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Actually the version in the unblock needed updating.  I fixed it.
[11:08] <yofel> Riddell: it's not really out of date, but IIRC it can't track -proposed. That would be nice to have
[11:09] <Riddell> yofel: right that's the one
[11:09] <ScottK> smartboyhw: Not thanks to armhf.  Thanks to gcc-4.8.  That's where the bug is.
[11:09] <Riddell> we still need kde-baseapps and kde-workspace and preferably rekonq in the archive
[11:09] <smartboyhw> ScottK, ah.
[11:12]  * Riddell adds force for kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu4
[11:12] <Riddell> now what is going on with kdepim?
[11:12] <ScottK> Riddell: It needs force-autopkgtest - I just added it.
[11:12] <ScottK> I'm off.
[11:13] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:16] <Tonio> Riddell still sponsored to work on the distro ?
[11:17] <smartboyhw> Tonio, yes.
[11:17] <smartboyhw> Blue Systems replaced the sponsorship.
[11:20] <Tonio> ok smartboyhw ;) by the way who are you ? should I know you with another nick ?
[11:21] <smartboyhw> Tonio, no. Just this nick. I'm a rather new packager around here. A Kubuntu member but not yet an official dev. Been actively working within Ubuntu for a year or so. Now I'm an active ISO tester at QA Team and also Ubuntu Studio (another Ubuntu flavour)'s release manager:)
[11:21] <Tonio> ok ;) I'm an oooooooooold contributor
[11:21] <Tonio> but didn't do much for 2 / 2.5 years now
[11:21] <Tonio> I was core-dev long ago
[11:21] <smartboyhw> Tonio, nice to meet you:)
[11:21] <Tonio> nice to meet you too ;)
[11:22] <smartboyhw> Hey wait, why did so many old contributors came back to visit the channel at June?
[11:22] <smartboyhw> :P
[11:23] <Tonio> there were others that came back ?
[11:23] <Tonio> I saw allee is connected, rgreening aswell...
[11:23] <yofel> manchicken was here the last few days 
[11:23] <Tonio> I think wheather is horrible, people  get nostalgic, maybe ;)
[11:24] <Tonio> oh yeah manchicken, of course ;)
[11:24] <Riddell> I don't get this   From wrong source: kdepim-strigi-plugins 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 (4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 not 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1) 
[11:25] <Riddell> something has moved source package?
[11:25] <yofel> nope, it simply ceased to exist
[11:26] <Riddell> hmm, maybe it wants me to add a transitional
[11:27] <yofel> hm, maybe because kubuntu-desktop recommends it?
[11:27] <Riddell> gosh so it does
[11:27] <Riddell> I'll remove that
[11:28] <yofel> how much do we care about accurate copyright files again?
[11:28]  * yofel wonders whether he has to send smartboyhw to copyright file fixing or not
[11:28] <Riddell> "lots" but mostly only when going through New
[11:29] <yofel> well, this would be binary NEW
[11:29] <yofel> for libkscreen1
[11:29] <Riddell> depends who reviews it, that ScottK chap is pretty harsh
[11:30] <yofel> well, it's a small package and it'll be some good exercise
[11:30] <smartboyhw> Meh, someone should make a checklist.....
[11:31] <yofel> smartboyhw: dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/tmp/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[11:31] <yofel> fine except for some outdated copyright information
[11:32] <smartboyhw> Meh, I'm blocked for testing now...
[11:33] <yofel> I doubt we would get it in for a1 anyway, so just ping when you're done
[11:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, we won't. Certainly.
[11:33] <smartboyhw> :P
[11:33] <yofel> ^^
[11:41] <smartboyhw> yofel, http://paste.kde.org/783140/ ?
[11:43] <BluesKaj_> Howdy all
[11:44] <yofel> smartboyhw: ack, but cmake/modules/* is missing
[11:44] <yofel> and the package doesn't ship a COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file :(
[11:46] <yofel> smartboyhw: add the copyright info and we'll try to get it in without the file. I'll add it upstream so it's in the next release
[11:46] <smartboyhw> yofel, ACK. Doing.
[11:50] <yofel> smartboyhw: http://commits.kde.org/libkscreen/e5007a9cd1f0aea39fa2ae20880bb8d9cb798634, that's BSD-3-Clause btw.
[11:55] <smartboyhw> yofel, http://paste.kde.org/783152/
[11:56] <yofel> smartboyhw: ship it
[11:56] <smartboyhw> yofel, alright:)
[12:04] <smartboyhw> yofel, uploading a new version to another PPA (yeah) with a new changelog (present tense) describing the copyright file change and the new file, along with the patch needed to add the file.
[12:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/linux-lowlatency/+files/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[12:06] <smartboyhw> Damn, I forgot to add the patch has.
[12:06] <smartboyhw> s/has./hash./
[12:06] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "Damn, I forgot to add the patch hash."
[12:07] <smartboyhw> Uh oh, yofel you need to do the changelog change to add back the patch commit for me:(
[12:07] <smartboyhw> I mean, commit no.
[12:08] <yofel> smartboyhw: nah, the patch itself has it, that's enough. it just should be *somewhere*
[12:08] <smartboyhw> yofel, :)
[12:10] <yofel> uploaded
[12:10] <smartboyhw> yofel, \o/
[12:10]  * smartboyhw goes running everywhere:P
[12:40] <shadeslayer> not having to press two keys to do page up and page down totally rocks
[12:40] <shadeslayer> stupid MBP keyboardf
[12:41] <shadeslayer> I also get to relearn how to type properly on my shiny new keyboard, so please forgive typos for the next few days
[12:57] <ScottK> Riddell: I got the unblock wrong for baseapps. package needs to be pango1.0, not pango.  Can you fix in my hints file?
[13:02]  * Riddell looks
[13:03] <Riddell> ScottK: I see nothing about pango in there
[13:03] <Riddell> only my jriddell:force-autopkgtest kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu
[13:13] <shadeslayer> whaaa
[13:13] <ScottK> You need to force pango1.0, not baseapps
[13:14] <shadeslayer> does this make any sense to you : http://i.imgur.com/iQLkO8p.png
[13:14] <yofel> *blink*
[13:15] <ScottK> maybe I forgot to push before I left.
[13:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: well, same here...
[13:15] <shadeslayer> omg <3 having page up and page down buttons
[13:16] <shadeslayer> a full keyboard feels so much more comfy
[13:16] <yofel> a mac has none? ^^
[13:17] <shadeslayer> you use fn + arrow keys
[13:17] <shadeslayer> which I accidentally discovered
[13:17] <yofel> ah, same as on my eeePC then 
[13:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: not to mention this is a mechanical keyboard :D
[13:17] <yofel> lol
[13:18] <shadeslayer> my mac keys feel so mushy now -.-
[13:18] <yofel> now you sound like a collegue I have at work. He's a total fan of mechanical keyboards
[13:18] <shadeslayer> I don't see why not
[13:18] <yofel> I like them for personal use, but in an office it's kind of annoying
[13:19] <shadeslayer> yeah well,I get to annoy apol, afiestas_ and vHanda soon
[13:19] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:19] <yofel> lol
[13:19] <shadeslayer> maybe me and afiestas_ can have competitions on who can make more nouice
[13:19] <shadeslayer> *noice
[13:19] <shadeslayer> damnit
[13:19] <vHanda> ?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> you know what I mean
[13:19] <shadeslayer> vHanda: I have a TVS gold
[13:19] <shadeslayer> makes alot of noce
[13:19] <vHanda> ah. Mechanical keyboard
[13:19] <shadeslayer> ...
[13:19] <vHanda> please get a silent one
[13:19] <vHanda> it's bloody annoying
[13:19] <yofel> :D
[13:19] <shadeslayer> muwhahaha
[13:20] <vHanda> that's half the reason why we used to have music in the office
[13:20] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:20] <shadeslayer> too late
[13:20] <vHanda> urgh
[13:21] <vHanda> someone might accidentely drop something on it
[13:21] <vHanda> be careful
[13:21] <yofel> lol
[13:21] <shadeslayer> I wrote my class 12 C++ project using the Borland IDE using this :P
[13:21] <vHanda> what was it? a library manager?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> some sort of database manager that had pretty graphics, yes :P
[13:22] <vHanda> eh!
[13:22] <shadeslayer> yeah, I know, very stereotypical
[13:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, heh, anytime for https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/2buntu/+files/kscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc ?
[13:22] <shadeslayer> but hey, it had pretty graphics!
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Just review it first:)
[13:22] <yofel> smartboyhw: unless someone else does it, I'll do it after lib is through NEW
[13:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, sure. No worries:)
[13:23] <shadeslayer> everyone had shitty graphics, mine had the equivalent of QLineEdits and comboboxes and what not
[13:23] <shadeslayer> also had a easter egg
[13:23] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, LOL
[13:24] <yofel> couldn't really have looked worse than the whack-a-mole kind of thing I wrote for class last year in java
[13:24] <shadeslayer> so, did everything move from -proposed in saucy?
[13:24] <yofel> I couldn't really think of something sensible that used JCanvas + Threads
[13:25] <shadeslayer> -> only knows one line of java : public static void main () { }
[13:25] <shadeslayer> I don't even recall if that mandates arguments ^_^
[13:25] <yofel> that won't compile without a class around it :P
[13:25] <shadeslayer> true
[13:25] <yofel> (String[] args)
[13:25] <shadeslayer> ah right
[13:26] <yofel> the game is actually kinda fun in the end. You're playing whack-a-mole with swing as it eats the mouse events. (threading swing drawing while swing is single-threaded doesn't work that well)
[13:30] <shadeslayer> *blink*
[13:30] <shadeslayer> The following packages have been kept back:
[13:30] <shadeslayer>   plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[13:30] <yofel> sounds like workspace isn't through
[13:30] <shadeslayer> installing ^ makes apt remove kde-workspace
[13:30] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:31] <yofel> that's what apt usually does
[13:31] <yofel> esp. the first thing it likes killing is kde-workspace-bin
[13:31] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:32] <shadeslayer> any reason to keep workspace in -proposed? or is LP just being slow in migrating it
[13:32] <yofel> autopkgtest for ubiquity 2.15.8: RUNNING 
[13:33] <yofel> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kde-workspace
[13:33] <yofel> lol
[13:33] <yofel> Ignoring block request by jriddell, due to unblock request by jriddell 
[13:33] <shadeslayer> I don't quite follow what that means :S
[13:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, that was just I wanted to post:P
[13:33] <smartboyhw> Very funny:P
[13:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: I think britney runs the autopkgtests for all packages that use the migrated package to check whether something breaks
[13:34]  * yofel doesn't know too much about those tests
[13:34] <shadeslayer> I see
[13:34] <smartboyhw> That's actually cjwatson's fault (really)
[13:35] <shadeslayer> 'fault' ?
[13:35] <xnox> sure which may or may not be working correctly. ask on #ubuntu-release if you believe it got stuck
[13:36] <xnox> smartboyhw: it's nobody's fault, simply we are all still learning how autopkgtests reverse dependancy checks operate and we are tweaking them as we hit corner cases, when something doesn't operate the way it's intended.
[13:36] <xnox> there are hints release team can apply to skip autopkgtests.
[13:36] <xnox> Riddell: ScottK: ^^^
[13:38] <smartboyhw> xnox, alright then:)
[13:38] <smartboyhw> Thanks:)
[13:49]  * Riddell adds force for pango1.0
[13:50] <smartboyhw> force!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:50]  * Riddell uses the force
[14:12] <smartboyhw> yofel, the package is through NEW :P
[14:12] <smartboyhw> XD
[14:12] <smartboyhw> Albeit, it's just accepted and won't move into -release.
[14:14] <shadeslayer> bah
[14:14] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: ping
[14:14] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: seems like krunner auto prepends "search" to the string
[14:15] <shadeslayer> so maybe I can do : "Search for IETF RFC foo"
[14:20] <Riddell> awooga kde-baseapps in
[14:20] <yofel> smartboyhw: yay, that's really all I care about for now
[14:20] <smartboyhw> Riddell, awooga
[14:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, :)
[14:21] <Riddell> but I still don't get kdepim
[14:21] <smartboyhw> Riddell, meh:(
[14:24] <yofel> why's that only kdepim/armhf btw.
[14:25] <Riddell> hmm kdepim/armhf is pending publication for 16 hours
[14:25] <smartboyhw> :O
[14:29] <smartboyhw> Riddell, calligra fail.
[14:30] <smartboyhw> /usr/share/hicolor/icons/1024x1024/apps/calligrakrita.png appeared in both krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu3 and krita 2.6.3.
[14:30] <Riddell> smartboyhw: try calligra 1:2.6.92-0ubuntu6 in -proposed
[14:30] <smartboyhw> -0ubuntu6 !!?!?!?!?!?
[14:30] <smartboyhw> Whoa that's a big difference;P
[14:32] <Riddell> calligra has failed more than once
[14:33] <yofel> 6 isn't high when we're talking about arm
[14:34]  * smartboyhw remembers pushing it to -5 or -8?
[14:34] <smartboyhw> I really forgotten.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> Riddell, no. It still failed.
[14:37] <smartboyhw> /usr/share/hicolor/scalable/apps/calligrakrita.svgz
[14:37] <smartboyhw> Still, krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu6 and krita 2.6.3-0ubuntu2
[14:37] <smartboyhw> Meh,.....
[14:37] <Riddell> smartboyhw: fancy fixing it in bzr?
[14:38] <smartboyhw> Riddell, bzr only? OK.
[14:38] <yofel> bzr is the easiest way to upload from
[14:38] <yofel> libkscreen finally got published
[14:39] <smartboyhw> yofel, Riddell from what I'm seeing here, the best method is to let krita-data break krita-
[14:39] <smartboyhw> ......
[14:39] <smartboyhw> krita-data breaks/replaces krita (<< 2.6.3-0ubuntu2)
[14:39] <yofel> wrong
[14:39] <yofel> 2.6.3-0ubuntu2 still has the old file layout
[14:40] <yofel> you probably want << 2.6.92
[14:40] <smartboyhw> yofel, OK.
[14:41] <ahoneybun> Riddell: does digikam still need building?
[14:42] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yofel check the bzr branch.
[14:44] <yofel> ahoneybun: from what I see, yes. Be warned that it's a rather large package. (size and built time wise, difficultiy wise it's not too hard)
[14:44] <yofel> assign bug 1192920 to you if you want to try it
[14:44] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, try it:)
[14:44] <ahoneybun> yofel: only issue is I'm not on saucy
[14:44] <Riddell> smartboyhw: looking
[14:44] <Riddell> ahoneybun: chroot works, or I can give you an ec2
[14:44] <yofel> ^
[14:45] <ahoneybun> I would need a bit of a walk though
[14:45]  * smartboyhw now tries to beat ahoneybun (LOL)
[14:45] <ahoneybun> but sure ;)
[14:45] <ahoneybun> yofel: I got a 1 TB hdd lol
[14:46] <ahoneybun> what smartboyhw lol
[14:46] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:46] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, really?
[14:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: want me to take you through? would take an hour or two
[14:46] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I'm waiting around doing nothing really anyway lol
[14:47] <yofel> a new packager \o/
[14:47] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: really what?
[14:47] <yofel> :P
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, 1TB!
[14:47] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lp account?
[14:47] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: well that what it says
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, ....
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Whoa
[14:47] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ~aaronhoneycutt
[14:47] <Riddell> yofel: don't get too excited, we don't want to distract him too much from docs :)
[14:47] <yofel> oh, good point
[14:48] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: you know they are never really what size they say always  a bit lest
[14:48] <ahoneybun> less
[14:48] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I like to be useful for more then one thing, also working on one package will not kill me lol
[14:48] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, maybe try QA:P
[14:49]  * Riddell starts an ec2
[14:49]  * smartboyhw challenges ahoneybun :)
[14:49] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: I guess I could test on my macbook
[14:49] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: but one thing at a time ;)
[14:49] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, yeah sure:)
[14:51] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, Riddell hmm it sounds like a big version leap. NOt good.
[14:51] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: digikam?
[14:52] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, yeah
[14:52] <smartboyhw> 3.1.0 -> 3.3.0-beta2
[14:52] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: that is a big one
[14:52] <yofel> 3.2 -> 3.3-b2
[14:52] <Riddell> it's less than 0.2 better
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Even worse; 3.2 fails with armhf
[14:54] <yofel> because I never got around to fix it. 3.3 won't be any worse at least
[14:54]  * smartboyhw thinks it might be worse.
[14:54] <shadeslayer> -> dinner
[14:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[14:57] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yofel uploaded -0ubuntu7 for calligra yet/
[14:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: run  byobu
[14:57] <smartboyhw> ?
[14:57] <yofel> nope
[14:57] <Riddell> smartboyhw: just about to
[14:57] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yeah:)
[14:57] <Riddell> done
[14:58] <smartboyhw> :O
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Installing build-deps for digikam
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Actually digikam does take a long time so if I succeed within this hour I will O-mouth.
[14:58] <ahoneybun> freaky and cool all at once
[14:58] <Riddell> smartboyhw: wait, are you doing digikam too?
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I'm challenging:P
[14:59] <Riddell> challenging?
[14:59]  * smartboyhw vs. ahoneybun :)
[14:59]  * ahoneybun is confused
[14:59] <yofel> fix the arm build instead :P
[14:59] <smartboyhw> LOL
[14:59] <smartboyhw> yofel, I don't know ARM.
[14:59] <smartboyhw> That's the issue,
[14:59] <Riddell> smartboyhw: mm why are we duplicating?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> I rather want every computer in the world to be 64- or 128-bit.
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Riddell, because I am having fun:P
[15:00] <smartboyhw> And I'm waiting for a re-spin from Kylin.
[15:00] <Riddell> smartboyhw: how about doing simon instead?
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I gave the job to you so no:P
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Speaking of that, I have an interview to post.
[15:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well anyway download the current digikam into a directory (I call it current)
[15:02] <ahoneybun> ok 
[15:02] <Riddell> ahoneybun: on the ec2
[15:02] <ahoneybun> I know ;) http://www.digikam.org/download?q=download/GIT?
[15:03] <ahoneybun> I made /home/ubuntu/digikam/current
[15:03] <Riddell> apt-get source 
[15:04] <Riddell> and in another dir wget http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-3.2.0.tar.bz2
[15:04] <ahoneybun> apt-get source digikam?
[15:04] <Riddell> that'll do it
[15:04] <yofel> that ec2 does have proposed enabled, yes? otherwise that'll get 3.1
[15:05] <Riddell> good point, ahoneybun enable proposed first
[15:05] <ahoneybun> so in /digikam run apt-get source and then in the current dir run the wget?
[15:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: sources.list?
[15:05]  * yofel would just take the packaging from bzr
[15:05] <Riddell> yes, once you've added -proposed to sources.list
[15:06] <Riddell> oh yes it is in bzr, so best to checkout lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam
[15:06] <ahoneybun> lets take this one step at a time..
[15:07] <ahoneybun> is the sources.list not in /etc/apt/?
[15:07] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes it is
[15:07] <ahoneybun> no apt dir
[15:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila
[15:08] <ahoneybun> what
[15:08] <ahoneybun> lol
[15:08] <ahoneybun> I did not see it
[15:08] <ahoneybun> ok so what now
[15:08] <Riddell> I just got a request to backport Amarok 2.7.1 for raring, anyone want to take it on?
[15:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun: copy and paste the saucy-updates lines and change to saucy-proposed
[15:09] <yofel> uh...
[15:09] <ahoneybun> nano does not have c and p lol
[15:09] <yofel>      2:2.7.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 0
[15:09] <yofel>          50 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:09] <yofel> amarok ^
[15:10] <Riddell> ahoneybun: control k  control u
[15:10] <smartboyhw> Yeah:)
[15:10] <Riddell> yofel: I guess he's talking about official backports
[15:11] <ahoneybun> Riddell: already did it without that lol anyway 
[15:11] <yofel> ah. it could probably even be an SRU if someone wants to do the paperwork
[15:11] <Riddell> ahoneybun: keep -updates too
[15:11] <yofel> not too many changes
[15:11] <ahoneybun> Riddell: wait so have both -updates and -proposed?
[15:11] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:12] <ahoneybun> double then change
[15:12] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila
[15:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: you know its like you are doing for me lol
[15:12] <ahoneybun> well I did not sudo it
[15:12] <ahoneybun> so
[15:12] <Riddell> oh foo
[15:12] <Riddell> nano doesn't warn about that
[15:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I will get it now!
[15:16] <ahoneybun> Riddell: want to double check/.
[15:16] <ahoneybun> ?
[15:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: good
[15:16] <ahoneybun> cool
[15:16] <ahoneybun> sudo apt-get update?
[15:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yep
[15:16] <ahoneybun> I know that much! lo
[15:16] <ahoneybun> l
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Guys, digikam will fail.
[15:17] <smartboyhw> OpenCV's version is TOO LOW
[15:18] <smartboyhw> 2.4.2 in archive, 2.4.3 required.
[15:18] <smartboyhw> Damn....
[15:18] <yofel> fun
[15:18] <yofel> it's optional though I believe
[15:19] <Riddell> nice to keep it though
[15:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: apt-get source?
[15:19] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yeah
[15:19] <Riddell> inside current/
[15:19] <ahoneybun> k
[15:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, no it isn't
[15:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: pulls 3.2.0-0
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Because of that klibface can't be compiled
[15:20] <smartboyhw> And it fails.
[15:20] <smartboyhw> \o/
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ahoneybun ^
[15:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: needs dpkg-dev package extra 104 mbs
[15:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: go for it
[15:21] <ahoneybun> ok double checking
[15:21] <ahoneybun> not my server ll
[15:21] <ahoneybun> lol
[15:21] <smartboyhw> CMake Warning at extra/libkface/CMakeLists.txt:81 (MESSAGE):
[15:21] <smartboyhw>   OpenCV: Version is too old.
[15:21] <smartboyhw> CMake Error at extra/libkface/CMakeLists.txt:166 (MESSAGE):
[15:21] <smartboyhw>   LibKface cannot be compiled.
[15:21] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ahoneybun yofel ^
[15:21] <smartboyhw> HUrray.
[15:21] <ahoneybun> looks like it
[15:22] <yofel> let me fetch the source and read the cmake config
[15:23] <Riddell> what is libkface?
[15:23] <ahoneybun> Riddell: looks like it got it 
[15:23] <yofel> face recognition stuff
[15:23] <ahoneybun> 3.2.0-0
[15:23] <Riddell> ah part of digikam
[15:23] <yofel>  opencv | 2.4.3+dfsg-1     | experimental | source
[15:23] <yofel> someone merge that
[15:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: groovy, now download the new tar
[15:24] <smartboyhw> yofel, Riddell ahoneybun ELSE(OpenCV_FOUND)
[15:24] <smartboyhw>     MESSAGE(FATAL_ERROR "LibKface cannot be compiled.")
[15:24] <smartboyhw> ENDIF(OpenCV_FOUND)
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Yes:)
[15:24] <Riddell> gosh opencv looks like a beast
[15:24] <yofel> brrr
[15:24] <Riddell> 78MB tar
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Riddell, :O
[15:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: wget http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-3.2.0.tar.bz2 /home/ubuntu/digikam?
[15:25] <ahoneybun> wait
[15:25] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, no.
[15:25] <ahoneybun> yea I see
[15:25] <smartboyhw> The new tar is in unstable:)
[15:25] <ahoneybun> yea
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Why the hell does digikam require such a new version of opencv actually?
[15:26] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you really need to learn about copy and paste
[15:26] <ahoneybun> Riddell: in nano only lol
[15:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell:  wget http://download.kde.org/unstable/digikam/digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2
[15:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I'm going to insist on you using copy and paste
[15:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: go to http://download.kde.org/unstable/digikam/
[15:27] <Riddell> right click on  digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2
[15:27] <Riddell> Copy Link Location
[15:27] <Riddell> in terminal type wget  then press middle mouse button
[15:27] <ahoneybun> I got the link though
[15:28] <Riddell> yes you did, by typing it!
[15:28]  * smartboyhw ALWAYS uses Ctrl+C Ctrl+V :P
[15:28] <Riddell> yay :)
[15:28] <smartboyhw> I do sometimes use typing though
[15:28] <smartboyhw> When I want to train it.
[15:28] <yofel> smartboyhw: seems like they rewrote quite a bit with it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320763
[15:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I also used shift cont c to get it from the konsole to here
[15:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: downloaded
[15:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: rename tar 
[15:30] <Riddell> digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2  needs to be
[15:30] <Riddell> digikam_3.3.0~beta2.orig.tar.bz2
[15:31] <Riddell> packaging is fussy about the tar name
[15:31] <ahoneybun> darn what that command for renaming
[15:31] <Riddell> mv  is a good one
[15:31] <ahoneybun> yea
[15:31] <ahoneybun> done
[15:31] <Riddell> ahoneybun: extract the tar
[15:32] <ahoneybun> tar  -xf something?
[15:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah sure. Let us get that merged though, we can't do anything...
[15:33] <smartboyhw> tar -xjvf <tar.bz2>?
[15:33] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yep
[15:33]  * smartboyhw forgotten
[15:34] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: that worked
[15:34] <yofel> smartboyhw: no need for j
[15:34] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh sorry.
[15:34] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, eh!?
[15:34] <yofel> not with -x
[15:34] <smartboyhw> What's -j for actually?
[15:34] <yofel> bzip2 compression
[15:35] <yofel> but -x auto-recognises the compression type
[15:35] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh really?
[15:35] <smartboyhw> -xjf only.
[15:35] <ahoneybun> well I got it extraced
[15:35] <Riddell> ahoneybun: copy the debian/ directory from the current package
[15:35] <yofel> so j is optional
[15:35] <ahoneybun> from the 3.3.0 ver? or 3.2.0?
[15:36] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the 3.2.0
[15:36] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:36] <smartboyhw> Riddell, heh? I use http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html
[15:36] <smartboyhw> It does -0ubuntu1 versions, really:)
[15:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: to where?
[15:37] <Riddell> ahoneybun: to the 3.3.0 sources
[15:37] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you think that page (or the uupdate) isn't good enough?
[15:37]  * smartboyhw likes tools,
[15:38]  * ahoneybun feels stupid
[15:39] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I don't see much advantage and it's best to explain the steps that uupdate would be doing
[15:39] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, why?
[15:39] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh alright
[15:39] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:39] <Riddell> ahoneybun: cp -r
[15:39] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: cp command for copy no?
[15:39] <ahoneybun> that
[15:39] <ahoneybun> I was using cp -v
[15:39] <smartboyhw> I think I was explained the procedure before, so I can use tools with understanding:)
[15:40] <ahoneybun> Riddell: done
[15:40] <smartboyhw> Oh god, debate in -offtopic....
[15:40] <Riddell> ahoneybun: in the 3.3.0 version run dch -i to add a new changelog
[15:40] <Riddell> smartboyhw: anything offensive?
[15:40] <Riddell> I don't think I've ever been in -offtopic
[15:41] <smartboyhw> Riddell, not much, just ahoneybun and few others wanting Kubuntu to go Debian:P
[15:41] <ahoneybun> not waiting, just thinking
[15:41] <yofel> more others, really
[15:41] <smartboyhw> More others, really
[15:42] <ahoneybun> Riddell: need the devscripts package
[15:43] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I suggest you install it then :)
[15:43] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I don't like to install stuff on things that are not mine without telling at least
[15:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: BTW I took a look at the DMB meeting minutes, seems like dev alias is merely lacking a name?
[15:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: and cjwatson was given the greenlight to start working on adding the feature to LP
[15:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's an ec2, the whole point is it's a temporary machine we'll shut down when we're done with it
[15:45] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:45] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, you are correct...
[15:45] <Riddell> so we can mess it up if we like and it's only our own time we're wasting
[15:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: \o/
[15:45] <shadeslayer> time + money
[15:45] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:45] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ok it opened up the changelog
[15:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: fix version, add entry, fix your name and e-mail
[15:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it added that top entry as a template for you to fill in
[15:46] <ahoneybun> so change the 4:3.2.0 to the current?
[15:47] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes
[15:48] <ahoneybun> 3.3.0-beta2?
[15:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: 3.3.0~beta1-0ubuntu1
[15:48] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:49] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the ~ is a magic character to mean the next bit is less as a number value
[15:49] <Riddell> so you can have 3.3.0~beta1 followed by 3.3.0
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Riddell, isn't it beta2?
[15:49] <ahoneybun> first beta as a ubuntu package?
[15:50] <Riddell> ahoneybun: smartboyhw is right, beta2
[15:50]  * smartboyhw doesn't think so...
[15:50] <Riddell> it's the upstream version number
[15:50] <smartboyhw> Yeah, I'm correct!!!!
[15:50] <ahoneybun> Riddell: add entry?
[15:51] <Riddell> ahoneybun: some text
[15:51] <Riddell> "new upstream release" next to the * is common
[15:51] <ahoneybun> like the prevoius
[15:51] <Riddell> yeah
[15:51] <Riddell> dunno if we have a bug no or not
[15:52] <ahoneybun> I see yofel wrote relase not release lol
[15:52] <yofel> happens...
[15:52] <ahoneybun> yofel: I fixed it ;)
[15:52] <ahoneybun> I know
[15:53] <ahoneybun> happens a lot to me lol
[15:53] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely save and quit
[15:53] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ok
[15:54] <Quintasan> hurp durp pbuilder is broken
[15:54] <Quintasan> or Debian mirrors are
[15:55] <Riddell> ahoneybun: now check the patches
[15:55] <Riddell> quilt push   to push the first patch
[15:55] <Riddell> you can look in debian/patches to see what's there first
[15:56] <ahoneybun> there is 3
[15:56] <ahoneybun> well
[15:56] <ahoneybun> 2 .diff
[15:56] <ahoneybun> s
[15:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: quilt push  to apply the first one
[15:57] <Riddell> quilt is the tool to manage patches
[15:57] <ahoneybun> need to install it lol
[15:57]  * Riddell starts building new opencv, it is a beast
[15:58] <ahoneybun> seems it skipped them
[15:58] <Riddell> hmm
[15:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ah wrong directory you were running it from and it needs QUILT_PATCHES set
[15:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: run  quilt refresh
[15:59] <Riddell> that'll stop any offset in the patches
[15:59] <Riddell> by refreshing the patch
[15:59] <ahoneybun> what dir?
[16:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: this one
[16:00] <Riddell> groovy, now push the next patch
[16:00] <Riddell> refresh it
[16:00] <ahoneybun> but I was in that one
[16:01] <ahoneybun> ok
[16:01] <Riddell> lovely
[16:01] <Riddell> now we can build it
[16:01] <Riddell> run  debuild
[16:01] <ahoneybun> oh I see now
[16:01] <Riddell> s/run//
[16:01] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "  debuild"
[16:02] <smartboyhw> BTW Riddell ahoneybun add valgrind as a build-dep please.
[16:02] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: how?
[16:02] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, Riddell will teach you:)
[16:02] <Riddell> hang on, we don't know it needs it yet
[16:02] <ahoneybun> error
[16:02] <Riddell> "Unmet build dependencies"!
[16:02] <ahoneybun> oh my
[16:02] <smartboyhw> -- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h
[16:03] <smartboyhw> -- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h - not found
[16:03] <smartboyhw> .....
[16:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, !?
[16:03] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I use  /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends  to install them
[16:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: we've not got that far
[16:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I know, tellling you guys:)
[16:03] <ahoneybun> I dont think pbuilder is installed
[16:05]  * Riddell wonders why ahoneybun's terminal is so narrow
[16:05] <smartboyhw> good night guys. ahoneybun good luck with packaging:)
[16:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: because I don't use it for much
[16:06] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: thanks! and gn
[16:06]  * ahoneybun is scared that Riddell can see that
[16:06] <smartboyhw> lol
[16:06] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you can see mine just as much, only the ssh into the ec2 server :)
[16:07] <ahoneybun> I don't see anything other then mine
[16:07] <ahoneybun> Riddell: when will we begin loading things onto the docs server?
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: when we work out how I guess
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's the stuff on wiki.kubuntu that needs copied?
[16:08] <ahoneybun> Riddell: just write html and css?
[16:08] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: and you'll be editing from wiki.kubuntu still presumably?
[16:09] <ahoneybun> yea I think the wiki has a copy to html function
[16:09] <Riddell> so we need a script that downloads from there, puts a nice headers and footer on and fixes any URLs for images or whatever
[16:09] <Riddell> mm interesting
[16:09] <ahoneybun> no
[16:09] <Quintasan> Whatcha guys building?
[16:10] <ahoneybun> there is not downloads just the text
[16:10] <ahoneybun> Quintasan: digikam
[16:10] <Quintasan> Ah, have fun
[16:10]  * Quintasan needs some tea
[16:12] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ooh it's building!
[16:13] <ahoneybun> seems
[16:13] <Riddell> boom!
[16:13] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:13] <ahoneybun> libkface
[16:13] <Riddell> ahoneybun: valgrind/valgrind.h too, search on packages.ubuntu.com for what package contains that file
[16:14] <Riddell> then add it to build-depends in debian/control
[16:14] <Riddell> I've got opencv compiling here but it's only 50% done and I don't know if it'll be at all simple to finish it off
[16:15] <ahoneybun> there is a valgrind package
[16:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: if that's the package with valgrind.h add it to debian/control
[16:16] <ahoneybun> valgrind and valgrind-dbg
[16:16] <ahoneybun> I don't know about that though
[16:16] <Riddell> ignore the -dbg
[16:16] <ahoneybun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/valgrind
[16:17] <Riddell> awooga kde-workspace in
[16:17] <Riddell> don't know how don't know when but it's in
[16:18] <Riddell> just kdepim and okular to go
[16:18] <Riddell> ahoneybun: remember the comma
[16:19]  * ahoneybun is being watched
[16:19]  * Riddell works for GCHQ
[16:19] <Riddell> ahoneybun: save and debuild again
[16:22] <Quintasan> mfw dailies dont work
[16:22] <Quintasan> CHRIST
[16:22] <Riddell> mfw?
[16:22] <Riddell> meeting for worship?  you a quaker now?
[16:22] <Quintasan> My Face When
[16:22] <Quintasan> actually
[16:22] <ahoneybun> libkface
[16:23] <Riddell> Quintasan: what's that?
[16:23] <Riddell> ahoneybun: and that's about as far as we can go until this opencv build is done
[16:23] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ok
[16:23] <Riddell> ahoneybun: do look in debian/ to see what's actually in the packaging
[16:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: I should actually paste an image showing my reaction but I couldn't care about looking for one because there isn't one
[16:24] <Quintasan> ktp-text-ui FAILS only on i386
[16:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: what am I looking for?
[16:24] <Quintasan> with some headers missing
[16:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: anything you like :)
[16:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: debian/control and debian/rules are important ones
[16:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: oh you want to get used to the files
[16:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html has some explanations
[16:27]  * Riddell out for 20 mins
[17:18] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yo, I got opencv up
[17:18] <ahoneybun> sweet
[17:20] <ahoneybun> I see you are working
[17:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can you sync wacomtablet from unstable?
[17:20] <Riddell> ahoneybun: awooga, it's compiling
[17:20] <ahoneybun> I see
[17:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: sure but you need to file a bug (else the script won't work)
[17:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well now to sit back and wait, this ec2 isn't very fast
[17:21] <ahoneybun> yep
[17:23] <yofel> ahoneybun: btw. don't forget to close #1192920 in the changelog
[17:24] <ahoneybun> yofel: is that a bug?
[17:24] <yofel> lp 1192920
[17:24] <yofel> just add (LP: #1192920) in the changelog 
[17:26] <ahoneybun> Riddell: can I change the log while it is compiling?
[17:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the changelog?  yes
[17:27] <ahoneybun> yea
[17:27] <yofel> ahoneybun: see as example http://paste.kde.org/783116/ to where to put it
[17:29] <Riddell> hum
[17:29] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I guess my package of opencv was incomplete :(
[17:30] <ahoneybun>  /debian/control?
[17:30] <ahoneybun> got it
[17:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the bug number you put in debian/changelog
[17:31] <Riddell> oh well time to start another build of opencv, that'll be another hour or so it'll take and I need to go out now
[17:31] <yofel> can you add me to the ec2?
[17:31] <yofel> then I can help him for a while longer
[17:31] <Riddell> yep
[17:32] <Riddell> yofel: ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[17:32] <Riddell> yofel: I uploaded my opencv package but it's incomplete, misses that libopencv_superres.so and maybe others so feel free to complete it if you want
[17:32] <yofel> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:32] <yofel> which one did you add?
[17:32] <yofel> and what user?
[17:32] <Riddell> wget https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+sshkeys
[17:33] <Riddell> cat +sshkeys.1 >> authorized_keys
[17:33] <yofel> hehe
[17:33] <Riddell> ubuntu@ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[17:33] <yofel> works
[17:33] <Riddell> we're in byobu
[17:34] <yofel> are you building opencv, or...?
[17:34] <Riddell> yofel: I am locally but I'm about to go out so it's not much use for you
[17:35] <Riddell> you can built it on the ec2 but it's slow it'll take all night
[17:35] <Riddell> I can make another ec2 if you want
[17:36] <yofel> nah, just upload the source and i'll build it here
[17:36] <Riddell> although I did try to do a higher cpu one, maybe my script it out of date
[17:36] <Riddell> yofel: it's in launchpad
[17:37] <yofel> ok, I see it now, thanks
[18:22] <ahoneybun> yofel: how is it going?
[18:22] <yofel> [ 88%] Building CXX object modules/stitching/CMakeFiles/opencv_stitching.dir/src/seam_finders.cpp.o
[18:22] <ahoneybun> awesome
[18:22] <yofel> doesn't support building in parallel sadly :/
[18:22] <yofel> would already be done then
[18:22] <ahoneybun> yea
[18:22] <ahoneybun> are you doing that on the same ec2?
[18:24] <yofel> nope, on my machine here which is faster
[18:25] <ahoneybun> oh so how are you going to get it on the ec2 so I can compile it 
[18:25] <yofel> I'll upload the debs with sftp once I'm done here
[18:28] <ahoneybun> ok cool
[18:31] <yofel> uploading
[18:37] <yofel> ahoneybun: done
[18:38] <yofel> you can continue
[18:38] <ahoneybun> cool
[18:41] <yofel> that... will take a *while*
[18:47] <ahoneybun> yep
[18:50] <yofel> drat
[18:50] <yofel> that's -./usr/lib/libopencv_superres.so.2.4.5
[18:50] <yofel> from opencv list-missing :S
[19:18] <ahoneybun> I see
[19:19] <yofel> i hacked a quick package for that together, will take a few more minutes
[19:29] <ScottK> xnox: I know about force-autopackagetest. It's semantics are backward though.  I'm going to write a mail about it.
[19:32] <ahoneybun> yofel: ok
[19:35] <yofel> ahoneybun: done, now run 'debuild -nc' so it doesn't start from the beginning (nc is --no-clean)
[19:35] <ahoneybun> k
[19:36] <yofel> ok, building. *phew*
[19:46] <ahoneybun> ok looks good
[20:31] <soee> anyone on 4.10.80 ?
[21:04]  * ahoneybun hopes digikam 3.3.0 beta 2 will be built when he gets home from work
[21:54] <valorie> congratulations, ahoneybun!
[21:55] <valorie> very cool to have more packagers
[22:52] <valorie> !info libmygpo-qt
[22:52] <valorie> why not?
[22:53] <valorie> every time I build amarok from git I notice I don't have an up-to-date version
[22:53]  * Riddell publishes http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir
[22:53] <Riddell> ooh bingo 
[22:54] <Riddell> !testers | new alpha 1 candidate images
[22:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila, compiled!
[22:56] <Riddell> valorie: how's that blog post?
[22:57] <valorie> sec, I'll read; just got back from the post office and library
[22:58] <valorie> sensible manor should be manner
[22:59] <valorie> otherwise awesome!
[22:59] <Riddell> groovy
[23:00] <valorie> I wonder how all the forks such as Mint will deal with MIR?
[23:00] <valorie> I was searching a bit last night and they seem to be Not In Favor
[23:00] <ScottK> Riddell: "Comes to Kubuntu @ Akademy"/"Come to Kubuntu @ Akademy"
[23:00] <valorie> oops, missed that
[23:01]  * ScottK waits for the claim that it's proper Scottish English and since Scotland invented the language, it's correct.
[23:01] <Riddell> ta
[23:02] <Riddell> although that would have been a good excuse for it :)
[23:02] <valorie> perhaps Riddell was to the manor born
[23:02] <valorie> :-)
[23:03] <ScottK> Pretty sure the whole manor thing is actually English.
[23:04] <ScottK> IIRC when those were going up Scotland tended to be more about fortified castles and stealing cattle.
[23:04] <valorie> the Normans invaded Scotland too
[23:04] <valorie> ScottK: and sheep!
[23:04] <valorie> everyone forgets the sheep
[23:05] <Riddell> I do like paddling the Tweed for a good little invasion of England and some cattle russling
[23:08] <valorie> how in the heck do you keep the cows from tipping over your kayak?
[23:09] <Riddell> oh we put the kayak on top of the cow
[23:09] <valorie> rofl
[23:09] <Riddell> putting the cow on the kayak would be just silly
[23:09] <valorie> go Bessie go!
[23:09] <ScottK> You could tow the cow behind.
[23:10] <Riddell> no no, you guys have it all wrong, you can tow the kayak behind the cow
[23:10] <Riddell> sheesh, how did you ever rebel against the English?
[23:10] <Riddell> hi murthy, Quintasan, yofel 
[23:12] <ScottK> Riddell: Successfully.
[23:13] <ScottK> How'd yours go?
[23:13] <Riddell> ask me again in a year
[23:13] <yofel> Riddell: server power outage
[23:13] <yofel> missed anything important?
[23:13] <ScottK> Admittedly, the ocean between helped.
[23:13] <Riddell> yofel: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir
[23:14] <yofel> Riddell++
[23:32] <Riddell> awooga, alpha image installs
[23:58] <Quintasan> Riddell++
[23:58] <Quintasan> lolmir