[00:04] I just ran three miles in the rain... I'm cold and wet. [00:04] And for some reason I'm thinking of ice cream. And automated testing. [00:04] shadeslayer: You around? [00:06] * ScottK had to walk about a mile in new leather shoes today. [00:06] got blisters on the way there. [00:06] Decided to carry my shoes on the way back. [00:06] Yuck. [00:06] So now I have blisters and the soles of my feet are burned. [00:07] Fun day. [00:07] Weaksauce. [00:07] Where are you? [00:07] I was in Washington, DC today. [00:07] Gotcha. [00:07] Hottest day of the year so far. [00:07] I wish Garmin supported GNU/Linux. [00:07] I don't want to boot into win8 to upload my run data. [00:07] Of course what I call "hottest day of the year", shadeslayer probably calls "winter". [00:08] Heh [00:08] here it's 11°C outside right now (2AM), last week we had 38. Not good for your health -.- [00:09] I've got 21°C right now [00:09] That's after the rain. It dropped 10°C easily in the rain. [00:10] We tot to 33 today. [00:10] same climate, huh. [00:10] tot/got [00:17] I'd love to start looking at this testing stuff that shadeslayer mentioned earlier, but I don't know what all we're doing with it. [02:39] hey valorie are you editing the getting involved page for the forums? [02:41] no, I didn't know if that stuff had been deliberately removed, or just overlooked [02:41] overlooked [02:41] ok [02:41] it says that you are editing [02:41] I'm editing it, so I'll think about a way to add that back [02:41] Riddell: I think amor and ktux (like many other of the packages) the -dbg should depend on the package. [02:41] I added a list at one point, but it's been removed [02:43] yea [02:45] I was going to fix that but it says your editing or were [02:50] if you have the links at hand, feel free [02:50] I just fixed some typo or something [02:54] I'm going to relax want watch netflix, I'll work on that later [02:56] ok [05:03] I've started a kde-workspace build on the reconstituted armhf boxes to work on the FTBFS. [06:03] good morning [06:06] did you get your install all fixed, soee? [06:11] valorie, i ended up with fresh install [06:11] easier, for sure [06:12] too bad it couldn't be fix00red though [06:14] valorie, probably it could be but i would have to play with chroot etc. and as i needed my machine for my work i had to do it quickly [06:15] I see [06:47] Just uploaded an FTBFS fix for kde-workspace. [06:47] Going to bed. [07:04] Would someone with KDE git access please commit http://launchpadlibrarian.net/143447462/kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu3_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu4.diff.gz upstream. [07:52] Oh, so the Kubuntu images still isn't in the ISO QA Tracker? [07:53] Riddell, and libkscreen still doesn't work? [07:54] Em, it did work out... [07:54] According to PPA at least, can someone please review? (And help me to change the bug please, it's stil wrong:P) [08:15] ScottK: committed [08:56] BTW, can anyone make out what happened to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 ? [08:56] Launchpad bug 1066223 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kde ubiquity detects Sydney timezone but says Adelaide" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:56] I got some tester pinging about that. [09:28] Riddell, anytime to check libkscreen for me? [09:39] if not I can do it after lunch -> ~1h [09:54] \o [10:10] agateau: Thanks. [10:44] hi there [10:45] long...... long time no see ;) [10:45] Riddell [10:45] hey ;) [10:45] agateau : hi too ;) [10:49] bonjour [10:49] hi Tonio [10:53] bonjour Tonio, ca va? [10:53] fine and you ? [10:53] long time no see my friend... [10:54] how about the news ? still full time on kubuntu ? [10:54] oui, je suis tres bien [10:54] Riddell, smartboyhw: I'm looking at libkscreen now [10:54] I left computing on my side [10:54] yep, it's not done yet, lots to be done [10:54] not only kubuntu, but everything [10:54] Tonio: oh? did you take up wine making? [10:54] I'm now an e-cig vendor ;) [10:54] jings [10:54] www.espacevap.com that's the web shop [10:55] I got a SAAS type of shop to avoid commputing completly ;) [10:55] udge difference in my life ;) [10:56] * ScottK waves to Tonio [10:56] hey ScottK [10:56] it was time for me to change an go for another life ;) [10:56] I always promissed myself to left computing before 45... [10:56] I just went 10 years sooner than expected [10:57] how about you ScottK [10:57] ? [10:57] comment ca va le bairn? [10:59] Riddell: kde-workspace on armhf is now into shlibdeps, so I suspect there's a good chance it will succeed. You should decide if you want to unblock kde-workspace for the Alpha or not. I'll be offline ~all day, so it's up to you. [10:59] Riddell [10:59] hmm thought I'd done that already [10:59] good point : I really quit smoking this time ;) [11:00] Riddell what is the "bairn" ? don't know that word... [11:00] Tonio: ecossais pour un bébé [11:00] ah ;) [11:01] she's the cutest, let me show you [11:01] http://photos.toniox.org/upload/2013/03/27/pwg_high/20130327125324-40751a16.jpg [11:02] yofel, sure:) [11:02] http://photos.toniox.org/upload/2013/04/11/pwg_high/20130411130441-71018f46.jpg [11:02] she's got a little scar on those photos, which disapeared since... [11:02] smartboyhw: I rewrote your changelog a bit. a) Changelog entries are never past-tense. b) rather use proper english than sticking to keywords -> "Make libkscreen1 break/replace libkscreen0", sounds much better than "Make libkscreen1 breaks/replaces libkscreen0" [11:03] smartboyhw: here's the new one: http://paste.kde.org/783116 [11:03] Riddell she's really amazing, but well.... every parent would say this ;) [11:03] Riddell how about you, when are you gonna be a father, is that planned ? [11:03] yofel, ACK. (Meh, I do score good in Engilsh, but I didn't thought of tenses in changelogs:P) [11:03] Tonio: ooh la la [11:04] unless something goes very very wrong never [11:04] smartboyhw: think of it as action items "do a, add x to y, modify z" [11:04] Tonio: I think you scared her :) [11:04] yofel, check. [11:04] :) [11:04] Riddell :) [11:05] Tonio: Still keeping busy. $work is keeping me more offline recently. In fact, I have to go now. [11:05] Riddell: You did unblock it. [11:05] Riddell, you still haven't respinned the Kubuntu builds to make it appear on Alpha 1 page? [11:05] now to actually try to build it... [11:05] Tonio: question, Nim here thinks in France there is a list of names that you have to pick from to name your child, I don't think that's true of France is it? [11:05] So once it is done building, it should be good. [11:06] ScottK ok I'll be online toonight so we can discuss a bit ;) [11:06] smartboyhw: I think we still don't have 4.11 together in the archive [11:06] Riddell nope that's not true [11:06] yofel, 4.11 what? [11:06] smartboyhw: 4.10.80 package for saucy [11:06] yofel, yeah. [11:06] if you spin images now you'll get a mess [11:06] but if your name reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally doesn't seem appropriate, government can refuse [11:06] Thanks to armhf:P [11:06] yeah :/ [11:06] aka : you can't name your child "analsex" for example [11:07] Guys, http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/kubuntu-buildstatus.htm [11:07] Riddell but appart from that, you can use a flower name if you want ;) [11:07] yofel, we might not have time for Alpha 1 then. [11:07] It's Wednesday already:P [11:08] Tonio: Should be. [11:08] smartboyhw: I think that script is a bit out of date, I want to set it up on qa.kubuntu.co.uk but that needs to work out postgresql first [11:08] Riddell, oh. [11:08] Riddell: Actually the version in the unblock needed updating. I fixed it. [11:08] Riddell: it's not really out of date, but IIRC it can't track -proposed. That would be nice to have [11:09] yofel: right that's the one [11:09] smartboyhw: Not thanks to armhf. Thanks to gcc-4.8. That's where the bug is. [11:09] we still need kde-baseapps and kde-workspace and preferably rekonq in the archive [11:09] ScottK, ah. [11:12] * Riddell adds force for kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu4 [11:12] now what is going on with kdepim? [11:12] Riddell: It needs force-autopkgtest - I just added it. [11:12] I'm off. === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas most of 4.10.80 in saucy, moving ones stuck in -proposed to -release, raring: kubuntu-ppa/beta | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed [11:13] :) [11:16] Riddell still sponsored to work on the distro ? [11:17] Tonio, yes. [11:17] Blue Systems replaced the sponsorship. [11:20] ok smartboyhw ;) by the way who are you ? should I know you with another nick ? [11:21] Tonio, no. Just this nick. I'm a rather new packager around here. A Kubuntu member but not yet an official dev. Been actively working within Ubuntu for a year or so. Now I'm an active ISO tester at QA Team and also Ubuntu Studio (another Ubuntu flavour)'s release manager:) [11:21] ok ;) I'm an oooooooooold contributor [11:21] but didn't do much for 2 / 2.5 years now [11:21] I was core-dev long ago [11:21] Tonio, nice to meet you:) [11:21] nice to meet you too ;) [11:22] Hey wait, why did so many old contributors came back to visit the channel at June? [11:22] :P [11:23] there were others that came back ? [11:23] I saw allee is connected, rgreening aswell... [11:23] manchicken was here the last few days [11:23] I think wheather is horrible, people get nostalgic, maybe ;) [11:24] oh yeah manchicken, of course ;) [11:24] I don't get this From wrong source: kdepim-strigi-plugins 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 (4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 not 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1) [11:25] something has moved source package? [11:25] nope, it simply ceased to exist [11:26] hmm, maybe it wants me to add a transitional [11:27] hm, maybe because kubuntu-desktop recommends it? [11:27] gosh so it does [11:27] I'll remove that [11:28] how much do we care about accurate copyright files again? [11:28] * yofel wonders whether he has to send smartboyhw to copyright file fixing or not [11:28] "lots" but mostly only when going through New [11:29] well, this would be binary NEW [11:29] for libkscreen1 [11:29] depends who reviews it, that ScottK chap is pretty harsh [11:30] well, it's a small package and it'll be some good exercise [11:30] Meh, someone should make a checklist..... [11:31] smartboyhw: dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/tmp/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [11:31] fine except for some outdated copyright information [11:32] Meh, I'm blocked for testing now... [11:33] I doubt we would get it in for a1 anyway, so just ping when you're done [11:33] yofel, we won't. Certainly. [11:33] :P [11:33] ^^ [11:41] yofel, http://paste.kde.org/783140/ ? [11:43] Howdy all [11:44] smartboyhw: ack, but cmake/modules/* is missing [11:44] and the package doesn't ship a COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file :( [11:46] smartboyhw: add the copyright info and we'll try to get it in without the file. I'll add it upstream so it's in the next release [11:46] yofel, ACK. Doing. [11:50] smartboyhw: http://commits.kde.org/libkscreen/e5007a9cd1f0aea39fa2ae20880bb8d9cb798634, that's BSD-3-Clause btw. [11:55] yofel, http://paste.kde.org/783152/ [11:56] smartboyhw: ship it [11:56] yofel, alright:) [12:04] yofel, uploading a new version to another PPA (yeah) with a new changelog (present tense) describing the copyright file change and the new file, along with the patch needed to add the file. [12:06] yofel, dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/linux-lowlatency/+files/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [12:06] Damn, I forgot to add the patch has. [12:06] s/has./hash./ [12:06] smartboyhw meant: "Damn, I forgot to add the patch hash." [12:07] Uh oh, yofel you need to do the changelog change to add back the patch commit for me:( [12:07] I mean, commit no. [12:08] smartboyhw: nah, the patch itself has it, that's enough. it just should be *somewhere* [12:08] yofel, :) [12:10] uploaded [12:10] yofel, \o/ [12:10] * smartboyhw goes running everywhere:P === francisco is now known as Guest17761 [12:40] not having to press two keys to do page up and page down totally rocks [12:40] stupid MBP keyboardf [12:41] I also get to relearn how to type properly on my shiny new keyboard, so please forgive typos for the next few days [12:57] Riddell: I got the unblock wrong for baseapps. package needs to be pango1.0, not pango. Can you fix in my hints file? [13:02] * Riddell looks [13:03] ScottK: I see nothing about pango in there [13:03] only my jriddell:force-autopkgtest kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu [13:13] whaaa [13:13] You need to force pango1.0, not baseapps [13:14] does this make any sense to you : http://i.imgur.com/iQLkO8p.png [13:14] *blink* [13:15] maybe I forgot to push before I left. [13:15] shadeslayer: well, same here... [13:15] omg <3 having page up and page down buttons [13:16] a full keyboard feels so much more comfy [13:16] a mac has none? ^^ [13:17] you use fn + arrow keys [13:17] which I accidentally discovered [13:17] ah, same as on my eeePC then [13:17] yofel: not to mention this is a mechanical keyboard :D [13:17] lol [13:18] my mac keys feel so mushy now -.- [13:18] now you sound like a collegue I have at work. He's a total fan of mechanical keyboards [13:18] I don't see why not [13:18] I like them for personal use, but in an office it's kind of annoying [13:19] yeah well,I get to annoy apol, afiestas_ and vHanda soon [13:19] :P [13:19] lol [13:19] maybe me and afiestas_ can have competitions on who can make more nouice [13:19] *noice [13:19] damnit [13:19] ? [13:19] you know what I mean [13:19] vHanda: I have a TVS gold [13:19] makes alot of noce [13:19] ah. Mechanical keyboard [13:19] ... [13:19] please get a silent one [13:19] it's bloody annoying [13:19] :D [13:19] muwhahaha [13:20] that's half the reason why we used to have music in the office [13:20] lol [13:20] too late [13:20] urgh [13:21] someone might accidentely drop something on it [13:21] be careful [13:21] lol [13:21] I wrote my class 12 C++ project using the Borland IDE using this :P [13:21] what was it? a library manager? [13:21] some sort of database manager that had pretty graphics, yes :P [13:22] eh! [13:22] yeah, I know, very stereotypical [13:22] yofel, heh, anytime for https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/2buntu/+files/kscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc ? [13:22] but hey, it had pretty graphics! [13:22] Just review it first:) [13:22] smartboyhw: unless someone else does it, I'll do it after lib is through NEW [13:22] yofel, sure. No worries:) [13:23] everyone had shitty graphics, mine had the equivalent of QLineEdits and comboboxes and what not [13:23] also had a easter egg [13:23] shadeslayer, LOL [13:24] couldn't really have looked worse than the whack-a-mole kind of thing I wrote for class last year in java [13:24] so, did everything move from -proposed in saucy? [13:24] I couldn't really think of something sensible that used JCanvas + Threads [13:25] -> only knows one line of java : public static void main () { } [13:25] I don't even recall if that mandates arguments ^_^ [13:25] that won't compile without a class around it :P [13:25] true [13:25] (String[] args) [13:25] ah right [13:26] the game is actually kinda fun in the end. You're playing whack-a-mole with swing as it eats the mouse events. (threading swing drawing while swing is single-threaded doesn't work that well) [13:30] *blink* [13:30] The following packages have been kept back: [13:30] plasma-widget-networkmanagement [13:30] sounds like workspace isn't through [13:30] installing ^ makes apt remove kde-workspace [13:30] yeah [13:31] that's what apt usually does [13:31] esp. the first thing it likes killing is kde-workspace-bin [13:31] :) [13:32] any reason to keep workspace in -proposed? or is LP just being slow in migrating it [13:32] autopkgtest for ubiquity 2.15.8: RUNNING [13:33] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kde-workspace [13:33] lol [13:33] Ignoring block request by jriddell, due to unblock request by jriddell [13:33] I don't quite follow what that means :S [13:33] yofel, that was just I wanted to post:P [13:33] Very funny:P [13:34] shadeslayer: I think britney runs the autopkgtests for all packages that use the migrated package to check whether something breaks [13:34] * yofel doesn't know too much about those tests [13:34] I see [13:34] That's actually cjwatson's fault (really) [13:35] 'fault' ? [13:35] sure which may or may not be working correctly. ask on #ubuntu-release if you believe it got stuck [13:36] smartboyhw: it's nobody's fault, simply we are all still learning how autopkgtests reverse dependancy checks operate and we are tweaking them as we hit corner cases, when something doesn't operate the way it's intended. [13:36] there are hints release team can apply to skip autopkgtests. [13:36] Riddell: ScottK: ^^^ [13:38] xnox, alright then:) [13:38] Thanks:) [13:49] * Riddell adds force for pango1.0 [13:50] force!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! [13:50] * Riddell uses the force [14:12] yofel, the package is through NEW :P [14:12] XD [14:12] Albeit, it's just accepted and won't move into -release. [14:14] bah [14:14] tsdgeos: ping [14:14] tsdgeos: seems like krunner auto prepends "search" to the string [14:15] so maybe I can do : "Search for IETF RFC foo" [14:20] awooga kde-baseapps in [14:20] smartboyhw: yay, that's really all I care about for now [14:20] Riddell, awooga [14:20] yofel, :) [14:21] but I still don't get kdepim [14:21] Riddell, meh:( [14:24] why's that only kdepim/armhf btw. [14:25] hmm kdepim/armhf is pending publication for 16 hours [14:25] :O [14:29] Riddell, calligra fail. [14:30] /usr/share/hicolor/icons/1024x1024/apps/calligrakrita.png appeared in both krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu3 and krita 2.6.3. [14:30] smartboyhw: try calligra 1:2.6.92-0ubuntu6 in -proposed [14:30] -0ubuntu6 !!?!?!?!?!? [14:30] Whoa that's a big difference;P [14:32] calligra has failed more than once [14:33] 6 isn't high when we're talking about arm [14:34] * smartboyhw remembers pushing it to -5 or -8? [14:34] I really forgotten. [14:36] Riddell, no. It still failed. [14:37] /usr/share/hicolor/scalable/apps/calligrakrita.svgz [14:37] Still, krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu6 and krita 2.6.3-0ubuntu2 [14:37] Meh,..... [14:37] smartboyhw: fancy fixing it in bzr? [14:38] Riddell, bzr only? OK. [14:38] bzr is the easiest way to upload from [14:38] libkscreen finally got published [14:39] yofel, Riddell from what I'm seeing here, the best method is to let krita-data break krita- [14:39] ...... [14:39] krita-data breaks/replaces krita (<< 2.6.3-0ubuntu2) [14:39] wrong [14:39] 2.6.3-0ubuntu2 still has the old file layout [14:40] you probably want << 2.6.92 [14:40] yofel, OK. [14:41] Riddell: does digikam still need building? [14:42] Riddell, yofel check the bzr branch. [14:44] ahoneybun: from what I see, yes. Be warned that it's a rather large package. (size and built time wise, difficultiy wise it's not too hard) [14:44] assign bug 1192920 to you if you want to try it [14:44] bug 1192920 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Please update digikam to 3.3.0-beta2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1192920 [14:44] ahoneybun, try it:) [14:44] yofel: only issue is I'm not on saucy [14:44] smartboyhw: looking [14:44] ahoneybun: chroot works, or I can give you an ec2 [14:44] ^ [14:45] I would need a bit of a walk though [14:45] * smartboyhw now tries to beat ahoneybun (LOL) [14:45] but sure ;) [14:45] yofel: I got a 1 TB hdd lol [14:46] what smartboyhw lol [14:46] lol [14:46] ahoneybun, really? [14:46] ahoneybun: want me to take you through? would take an hour or two [14:46] Riddell: I'm waiting around doing nothing really anyway lol [14:47] a new packager \o/ [14:47] smartboyhw: really what? [14:47] :P [14:47] ahoneybun, 1TB! [14:47] ahoneybun: lp account? [14:47] smartboyhw: well that what it says [14:47] ahoneybun, .... [14:47] Whoa [14:47] Riddell: ~aaronhoneycutt [14:47] yofel: don't get too excited, we don't want to distract him too much from docs :) [14:47] oh, good point [14:48] smartboyhw: you know they are never really what size they say always a bit lest [14:48] less [14:48] Riddell: I like to be useful for more then one thing, also working on one package will not kill me lol [14:48] ahoneybun, maybe try QA:P [14:49] * Riddell starts an ec2 [14:49] * smartboyhw challenges ahoneybun :) [14:49] smartboyhw: I guess I could test on my macbook [14:49] smartboyhw: but one thing at a time ;) [14:49] ahoneybun, yeah sure:) [14:51] ahoneybun, Riddell hmm it sounds like a big version leap. NOt good. [14:51] smartboyhw: digikam? [14:52] ahoneybun, yeah [14:52] 3.1.0 -> 3.3.0-beta2 [14:52] smartboyhw: that is a big one [14:52] 3.2 -> 3.3-b2 [14:52] it's less than 0.2 better [14:53] Even worse; 3.2 fails with armhf [14:54] because I never got around to fix it. 3.3 won't be any worse at least [14:54] * smartboyhw thinks it might be worse. [14:54] -> dinner [14:57] ahoneybun: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com [14:57] Riddell, yofel uploaded -0ubuntu7 for calligra yet/ [14:57] ahoneybun: run byobu [14:57] ? [14:57] nope [14:57] smartboyhw: just about to [14:57] Riddell, yeah:) [14:57] done [14:58] :O [14:58]