[00:02] <izanagi> why weird?
[00:02] <izanagi> just updated the rep
[00:51] <Guest50707> Would Kubuntu ignore a SSD that has Ubuntu installed on it when trying to install Kubuntu from DVD? Do I need to use the Partition Manager to wipe it first then it might show as an option? Hate to wipe it only to find out it didn't help! :)
[00:51] <Guest50707> Only have 1 of my external drives showing as an install option... it is EXT4... other 2 or NTSF. I don't want to install to any of them. Secure Boot is OFF, Fast Boot is OFF.
[00:51] <Guest50707> Any help is appreciated...
[01:05] <benbloom> thanks puff. unfortunately the -f flag shows process start date (2 days ago) but no time. is there a way to get more detail?
[01:07] <lorddelta> Could anyone help me with my timezone problem? I think I have the correct time, but I can't seem to set the timezone properly so my time shows up correctly.
[01:09] <Guest50707> Do I need to use the Partition Manager to wipe an install of Ubuntu first to get that hard drive to show up as an option to install Kubuntu to? Hate to wipe it only to find out it didn't help and I can't install Kubuntu! :)
[01:10] <tsimpson> Guest50707: the installer should give you the option to use the entire disk, and it will repartition and format the disk in that case
[01:10] <Guest50707> Yeah it only shows 1 drive to install too a USB attached...
[01:10] <Guest50707> which isn't where I want to install too. Secure boot is off, fast boot is off
[01:11] <Guest50707> I have an SSD and a 1TB drive internal... ignoring both
[01:11] <Guest50707> Doesn't show sda or sdb
[01:14] <Guest50707> tsimpson: This of interest to you? http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62995-Wrong-time-zone-on-your-clock-Help-Kubuntu-devs-create-a-fix&highlight=ignore+hard
[01:15] <Guest50707> Guess I will wipe out Ubuntu and see if it shows as an option to install Kubuntu to.... if not, I guess I reinstall Ubuntu again :(
[01:20] <benbloom> puff: I think figured it out 'ps -o %t'
[04:50] <puff> What is the deal with plasma widgets?  I couuld swearI used to have Window List in my task bar, but it's not there now, and when I try to add widget it gives me the circle/bar icon.
[10:30] <izanagi> they came and they watch
[10:38] <izanagi> the quiter you are, the more you are able to hear
[11:43] <BluesKaj_> Howdy all
[12:02] <demonoid_me> how can i create booteable  usb stick with windows 7
[12:02] <demonoid_me> plsss
[12:02] <demonoid_me> help me
[12:02] <demonoid_me> f******ing kubuntuuu!
[12:06] <gits1225> demonoid_me: download unetbootin
[12:06] <demonoid_me> gits1225: i tryed but cant boot :(
[12:06] <demonoid_me> and i tryed with dd
[12:06] <demonoid_me> and with all things in google
[12:07] <gits1225> Can't boot as in the unetbootin screen doesn't show up on boot?
[12:08] <demonoid_me> yes i have only default
[12:08] <demonoid_me> in the screen
[12:08] <demonoid_me> for choose
[12:08] <gits1225> yea, that should do fine
[12:08] <gits1225> forward with default option
[12:08] <demonoid_me> and when i type enter   cant boot
[12:09] <demonoid_me> :(
[12:09] <gits1225> zzz
[12:09] <gits1225> I don't know, you could try a different software like usbcreator
[12:11] <gits1225> demonoid_me: How did you use dd in Windows 7? I am curious
[12:11] <gits1225> something like cygwin?
[12:14] <demonoid_me> gits1225: nooo in windows
[12:14] <demonoid_me> gits1225: in kubuntu
[12:15] <demonoid_me> dd if=path to the iso  file    if=path to the   /dev/sdX   bs=512
[12:16] <demonoid_me> gits1225: where iso file is windows 7
[12:16] <demonoid_me> and sdX is the usb drive
[12:19] <demonoid_me> gits1225: ??????????????
[14:09] <Weust`> Hi, alt+tab doesn't work here, any ideas why ? i checked Global Keyb Shortcuts at KWin and it is defined as "Walk through windows", i tried remapping it to something else and back but didn't work in both cases
[14:09] <Weust`> where can i look now ?
[14:22] <Weust`> i just found out the "error" window behaviour was "focus under mouse", if i set this to "focus follows mouse" it works
[14:27]  * genii makes a note
[14:27] <Weust`> could help for future searches :+)
[15:10] <DarthFrog> Well, I just learned something new that other folks might find useful.  "sudo !!" will repeat your last issued command at the command line with sudo privileges.  Very useful.
[15:11] <Ivan_Ukraine> Hi all!
[15:11] <Ivan_Ukraine> Kubuntu 13.04 is AWESOME!!!
[15:12] <Ivan_Ukraine> It's so polished and... sexy!
[15:13] <smartboyhw> Now that's a rare comment but yeah!
[15:14] <Ivan_Ukraine> Is this talk about Mir implementing and death of Kubuntu true?
[15:14] <smartboyhw> Ivan_Ukraine, sort of. We aren't dying, but we are sure we won't have MIR.
[15:15] <Ivan_Ukraine> But what are the options? ubuntu community can't make KDE+MIR alone :(
[15:15] <Ivan_Ukraine> Nobody want Mir except ubuntu
[15:17] <Ivan_Ukraine> I guess time will show us what's what. But I guess, Kubuntu will be KDE+Debian
[15:17] <yofel> most of the other flavours plan to try to stick to X as long as possible. We'll probably have to work out how well Wayland can be used in ubuntu
[15:20] <Ivan_Ukraine> Ubuntu is ruled by Mark. He said: "Every resource available to Mir". Question is "Will Kubuntu community be able to maintain Wayland in ubuntu or not". On the other hand Debian will maintain Wayland 100%. Maintain KDE is heavy burden. But KDE + Wayland is VERY VERY HARD.
[15:22] <genii> Ivan_Ukraine: For chat not directly related to support issues I would recommend #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[15:23] <Ivan_Ukraine> Oh. excuse me :)
[15:39] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[17:08] <izanagi> Hello
[17:09] <izanagi> In energy managment i choosen: when power button press, ask about log out
[17:09] <izanagi> and still, after pressing power button, compuer shuts down
[18:14] <lorddelta> just curious but what is/are the technical problems with mir?
[18:14] <lorddelta> I understand not liking Unity, I'm on KDE after all.
[18:15] <izanagi> i think kdes better
[18:15] <izanagi> but nothing is perfect
[18:15] <lorddelta> izangi: no its X11 vs Mir vs Wayland
[18:15] <lorddelta> not KDE vs Mir, lol
[18:16] <izanagi> well im green
[18:16] <izanagi> never heard of mir
[18:16] <lorddelta> KDE uses x11 right now
[18:16] <izanagi> saw that in backrack with kde
[18:17] <izanagi> kde starts with startx
[18:20] <izanagi> do you now why alt-f2 dont work?
[18:20] <lorddelta> no it works for me sorry
[18:20] <lorddelta> you have kubuntu installed yes?
[18:20] <izanagi> it works only after launching it from termial
[18:20] <izanagi> yes
[18:21] <izanagi> i launch krunner in terminal - it works
[18:21] <lorddelta> um, you launch alt-f2 from the terminal?
[18:21] <izanagi> i mean
[18:21] <lorddelta> lol ok yeah I was gonna say
[18:21] <lorddelta> sorry
[18:22] <lorddelta> I assume you've already tried re-installing krunner then?
[18:22] <lorddelta> --purge remove, install krunner?
[18:22] <izanagi> didnt try
[18:22] <izanagi> last time broken whole system
[18:22] <izanagi> but i will try maybe
[18:23] <lorddelta> ...lemme guess you are on 13.04
[18:23] <izanagi> or maybe add it to autostart?
[18:23] <lorddelta> 13.10
[18:23] <lorddelta> yeah that would help :P
[18:23] <izanagi> 13.04
[18:23] <izanagi> 13.10 not relesaes
[18:23] <izanagi> yet
[18:23] <izanagi> i want 13.10 badly
[18:23] <lorddelta> but it just works for me so I assume your config got screwed up
[18:23] <lorddelta> that's usually how these things work
[18:24] <izanagi> i just cleared .kde oO
[18:24] <lorddelta> I don't know where the config for these things are. If you find out let me know!
[18:24] <lorddelta> !
[18:25] <lorddelta> !info krunner
[18:26] <izanagi> well i do not use it often anyway
[18:26] <lorddelta> !info kde-workspace-bin
[18:27] <lorddelta> ^ I think that's the package you'll want to reinstall
[18:27] <lorddelta> I wouldn't purge that though there's a lot more than just krunner in there
[18:27] <izanagi> hmm
[18:27] <lorddelta> sudo apt-get --reinstall install kde-workspace-bin
[18:27] <izanagi> i will make first an clonezilla image
[18:28] <izanagi> a
[18:28] <lorddelta> reinstall is pretty safe
[18:28] <lorddelta> but sure
[18:28] <lorddelta> never hurts to be cautious
[18:28] <izanagi> well, i killed my instalation few times
[18:28] <izanagi> with amd
[18:28] <izanagi> i want 13.10 and new kernel now ;d
[18:29] <lorddelta> Uhm
[18:29] <lorddelta> Stay away, with a 30 ft pole.
[18:29] <lorddelta> I don't mean to scare you off of 13.10 or new kernels
[18:29] <lorddelta> but if you don't know what you're doing that's a prime way to really mess up your system
[18:31] <lorddelta> e.g. I tried that once with 12.10 and I broke everything but the most basic stuff on the system...I was luck I had land-line internet and new my way around the command line well enough to fix stuff.
[18:32] <lorddelta> using a live cd is safer...put it that way
[18:37] <BluesKaj_> lorddelta, I'm on 13.10 and there have been some glitches , but all have been solvable so far
[18:37] <lorddelta> BluesKaj_: I'm sure you are, I don't mean to put off people from 13.10, it just didn't sound like izanagi was ready for the potential headaches
[18:38] <lorddelta> I hope 13.10 goes great (and there are no problems for anyone)!
[18:40] <BluesKaj_> lorddelta, well one has to have a stable backup OS like 13.04 , when testing alpha/beta releases
[18:40] <lorddelta> Why do all these mis-configurations happen though?
[18:40] <lorddelta> I've wondered if there are ways of hardening the configuration system...
[18:41] <izanagi> yes it is
[18:41] <izanagi> make a copy
[18:41] <izanagi> if it works
[18:41] <izanagi> you broke something - you restore backup
[18:42] <izanagi> i learned that after broking ubuntu
[18:42] <lorddelta> 1) I know often there are external packages with like to cause trouble 2) people reading tutorials online which are out of date/do not entirely apply 3) mistakes made by package maintainers 4) bugs with write out bad configurations....
[18:42] <lorddelta> But considering that there is always the "re-install everything" option, I have to wonder if there isn't an easier way of restoring configurations than re-installing all the programs too.
[18:43] <izanagi> thats why linux is not for everyone
[18:44] <izanagi> a /home as partiton is good idea
[18:44] <izanagi> after reinstall you dont lose configuration
[18:44] <lorddelta> Yeah but half the time your configuration gets corrupted.
[18:44] <lorddelta> So that (shouldn't) matter.
[18:44] <lorddelta> Your exe's are fine.
[18:44] <lorddelta> exec's*
[18:46] <lorddelta> If you re-install and don't change anything on your home partition, then it logically follows the problem is not anything on your home partition
[18:46] <lorddelta> So your home partition does nothing but keep your files 'safe'
[18:46] <izanagi> but
[18:47] <lorddelta> izanagi: I may have discovered your krunner problem
[18:47] <izanagi> it keeps my bookmark for browser, email etc
[18:47] <izanagi> yes?
[18:47] <BluesKaj_> your data and app configs mostly
[18:47] <lorddelta> what is the output of 'ls /usr/share/autostart/krunner.desktop'
[18:48] <lorddelta> and if that file exists open it to make sure the contents aren't corrupted
[18:48] <lorddelta> BluesKaj_: right, which is great but the configuration problems usually all happen in /etc/, /lib/ or /usr/share, never /home/
[18:49] <izanagi> file exist
[18:51] <izanagi> Exec=krunner
[18:51] <izanagi> X-DBUS-StartupType=none
[18:51] <izanagi> it should be none?
[18:51] <BluesKaj_> lorddelta, well those files get rebuilt during the install
[18:54] <izanagi> you here?
[18:55] <Programmer_> i am considering removing kde from kubuntu. what is a better and fast desktop and doesnt cause as much lag?
[18:55] <BluesKaj_> Programmer_, have you updated and upgraded lately ?
[18:56] <Programmer_> not to a new version. still on precise. why?
[18:57] <izanagi> xfce?
[18:57] <izanagi> or gnome classic
[18:57] <izanagi> or mate
[18:57] <izanagi> they are light
[18:57] <Programmer_> BluesKaj_
[19:00] <BluesKaj_> Programmer_, ok so you're sticking with LTS , and I don't mean a release upgrade, i mean upgrade your your packages
[19:00] <Programmer_> im pretty sure i did
[19:00] <Programmer_> why do you ask
[19:01] <BluesKaj_> just run , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:01] <izanagi> google optimalization of kde
[19:02] <Programmer_> already upgraded lol
[19:02] <izanagi> you can turn of a lot of setting
[19:02] <izanagi> off*
[19:02] <Programmer_> ?
[19:02] <BluesKaj_> your packages should be updated periodically so the OS runs with newer speedier versions of your apps/packages
[19:02] <izanagi> for example you can turn off some of desktop effects
[19:03] <Programmer_> they are upgraded just about everyday
[19:03] <BluesKaj_> and if you don't use kamil or file indexing
[19:03] <BluesKaj_> err kmail
[19:05] <lorddelta> izanagi: sudo apt-get install pnopaste-cli && less /usr/share/autostart/krunner.desktop | nopaste-it
[19:05] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[19:05] <lorddelta> Or, just less your file and let me know if it looks like this: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?81075
[19:06] <Programmer_> ?
[19:07] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj_: are you working with gcc/g++ ?
[19:07] <izanagi> it looks like the same
[19:07] <izanagi> looks the same
[19:07] <Programmer_> should i dist-upgrade from 12.04?
[19:07] <izanagi> no
[19:08] <BluesKaj_> ovidiu-florin, nope
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> oh....
[19:08] <izanagi> dist upgrade  = 15% chance
[19:08] <izanagi> or less
[19:08] <Programmer_> oh?
[19:09] <ovidiu-florin> oh = sigh
[19:09] <BluesKaj_> dist upgrade will upgrade all the kde packages to the latest on your OS , it will not upgrade to 12.10
[19:10] <lorddelta> izanagi: ls /usr/share/autostart | nopaste-it     ?
[19:10] <BluesKaj_> Programmer_,^
[19:11] <izanagi> program not installed
[19:11] <lorddelta> izanagi, yeah you need to install nopaste-it for that to work
[19:11] <lorddelta> sudo apt-get install pnopaste-cli
[19:11] <BluesKaj_> do-release-upgrade will upgrade 12.04 to 12.10
[19:12] <BluesKaj_> Programmer_,^
[19:12] <BluesKaj_> use sudo
[19:14] <Programmer_> o
[19:14] <Programmer_> should i upgrade to 12.10?
[19:14] <izanagi> http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?81076
 Programmer_,^
[19:15] <Programmer_> last thing i saw
[19:15] <Programmer_> should i upgrade to 12.10?
[19:16] <izanagi> there was nothing more
[19:18] <BluesKaj_> Programmer_, it's your choice ...12.10 is newer and faster
[19:18] <izanagi> i think it is better to do clean install of 13.04
[19:19] <Programmer_> if i did a clean install of anything, i'd completely wipe my hard drive
[19:19] <BluesKaj_> Programmer_, , sudo do-release-upgrade  will upgrade your 12.04 to 12.10
[19:20] <Programmer_> im considering installing debian and using what desktop kali-linux uses
[19:20] <Programmer_> and just move all my shit over to there
[19:23]  * BluesKaj_ shrugs ... don't look for confirmation from me :)
[19:23] <AshishL> i need help in downloading kubuntu . i am downloading the installer. i am running it and when the iso torrent is downloaded,  a permission error is shown . please help..
[19:25] <izanagi> you have to burn iso to CD
[19:25] <BluesKaj_> AshishL, is the iso file finished downloading , because that's all you need to burn it to media and then use that to install kubuntu
[19:29] <AshishL> BluesKaj_:yeah . i see a wubi file. i click it and i choose kubuntu desktop environment . then it downloads a torrent and then it stops after finishing download and shows error
[19:30] <BluesKaj_> AshishL, that's wubi that's not a real kubuntu install , it runs within windows
[19:30] <lordievader> AshishL: Why not try http: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download (this is for raring)
[19:30] <avihay> AshishL: you can download the ISo independently, and place it in the same folder with wubi
[19:30] <BluesKaj_> !wubi | AshishL
[19:31] <avihay> wubi will search for it first
[19:31] <BluesKaj_> i think wubi should be deleted / banned :)
[19:32] <BluesKaj_> causes more trouble than it's worth
[19:32] <AshishL> BluesKaj_: youre so right :D i think there should ke a "K"ubi. ! ;)
[19:32] <avihay> BluesKaj_: why? what's not real about wubi? except for real-time harddisk performance impact?
[19:32] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: I thought there where plans to drop it for 13.10. Argument was that is was buggy and unmaintained. (Might be wrong).
[19:32] <avihay> harddisk->read/write
[19:33] <BluesKaj_> it's not a real linux install ,   it's an windows application designed to act like l;inux
[19:33] <BluesKaj_> that's all I have to say
[19:33] <avihay> BluesKaj_: no, it's a real linux, it doesn't run within windows, it's a linux partition on a file inside an NTFS partition, but the rest is real linux
[19:34] <izanagi> lol, i would not try that
[19:34] <BluesKaj_> avihay, don't bother
[19:34] <izanagi> must be slow as hell
[19:34] <avihay> somewhat slower, yes
[19:35] <AshishL> BluesKaj_: i have an iso named kubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64. what else should i download ?
[19:35] <AshishL> BluesKaj_:to install kubuntu ??
[19:35] <izanagi> something to burn the iso
[19:35] <BluesKaj_> that's all you need for a real linux install AshishL ,
[19:36] <izanagi> and make sure you rly have amd and 64bit processor
[19:36] <BluesKaj_> yers of course media for the iso
[19:36] <lordievader> izanagi: Intel 64bit is fine too.
[19:36] <AshishL> BluesKaj_: but the iso has got wubi in itself . should i run that ?
[19:37] <BluesKaj_> ask avihay AshishL , he's the wubi guy here , I'm not
[19:38] <izanagi> .g a
[19:38] <AshishL> avihay:the kubuntu iso 13.04 has got a wubi . should i run it ??
[19:38] <avihay> AshishL: it doesn't matter if you extract wubi from within the ISO or download one, they just have to be in the same folder
[19:39] <AshishL> avihay:but when i run wubi from within the iso , it starts downloading a new iso . :P
 ...  they just have to be in the same folder
[19:40] <avihay> wubi.exe and kubuntu.iso
[19:41] <AshishL> abihay: they are  . hen what should i do ??
[19:41] <AshishL> then .
[19:41] <avihay> run the wubi.exe, it should find the ISO and not download. you won't get any special indication though
[19:44] <AshishL> avihay: im running the wubi.exe . but despite the iso being in that folder, its going on downloading another iso.
[19:45] <avihay> sec
[19:45] <BluesKaj_> didn't wubi ask you tobrowse to the iso folder /
[19:46] <avihay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_install_Wubi_on_a_machine_with_no_Internet_connection.3F
[19:46] <AshishL> avihay:no
[19:47] <avihay> BluesKaj_: no :-<
[19:47] <avihay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_use_a_manually_downloaded_ISO.3F
[19:48] <avihay> "DVD and Alternate ISO
[19:48] <avihay> DVD and Alternate ISO/CDs are not supported. The ISO must be a 10.04/11.10/12.04/12.10 CD Desktop ISO."
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_use_a_manually_downloaded_ISO.3F
[19:54] <fluxbox> Hello
[19:54] <lorddelta> izanagi: I'll have to look at it another time but you look fine to me. Maybe check the logs to see if autostart complains of a problem?
[19:57] <AshishL> avihay: it isnt happening with wubi. i tried just now. what do you suggest download 32 bit 12.04 kubuntu ?
[19:58] <fluxbox> can anyone help me ? I want to install samba and build up a vpn ?
[19:58] <fluxbox> I am a N00b :(
[19:58] <fluxbox> witch channel do I have to go ?
[19:58] <avihay> !samba
[20:00] <avihay> fluxbox: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html I think, kinda out of date, but until samba4 hits, I don't think anything will change
[20:09] <AshishL> avihay: i tried to install from wubi . its not working. saying some files are missing. what should i do ? download a 32 bit iso or a previous version of kubuntu . is there a method to do it withou wubi ?
[20:09] <avihay> wubi usually fails for me on first install
[20:10] <avihay> then I remove and reinstall and wit works fine ( I assume it found the ISO, right?)
[20:10] <avihay> wit->that
[20:11] <avihay> yes, there are ways to do it without wubi. but first, you should define 'it' better. what do you want to do?
[20:12] <AshishL> avihay : im trying to reinstall . 20 secs left...
[20:12] <AshishL> avihay : it found the iso "after " putting it in the USB.
[20:14] <AshishL> avihay: it is showing some missing files error (wubi) . i would like to do it without wubi...
[20:14] <avihay> ok, what is 'it', what are you trying to do?
[20:15] <AshishL> avihay: im trying to install kubuntu from wubi using a live USB .
[20:15] <AshishL> avihay:theres no boot screen either.
[20:16] <avihay> wubi uses the windows boot screen
[20:16] <avihay> I'm asking what is your end goal. you want a dual-boot system?
[20:17] <avihay> is it critical for you not to repartition?
[20:17] <AshishL> avihay: i want a dual boot and i do not want to repartition...
[20:17] <AshishL> avihay: should i download a 32 bit version of 13.04. will it work ??
[20:18] <avihay> ok. yes, it can be done. no, I havn't done it without wubi
[20:18] <avihay> AshishL: you can try, it's easy
[20:18] <avihay> I can refer you to some google results if you'd like, I've seen a few guids
[20:19] <AshishL> avihay: you mean that i download the 32 bit version again ??
[20:20] <avihay> I don't know. do you suspect the download got corrupted?
[20:21] <AshishL> avihay:torrent download...
[20:21] <AshishL> avihay:so no download problem.
[20:21] <AshishL> avihay: the regular download version of kubuntu  requires wubi ??
[20:21] <avihay> no
[20:24] <AshishL> avihay:thanks...
[20:29] <fluxbox> Hm OK please gimme a notice if someone wants to talk about cloud systems or so
[20:29] <fluxbox> I guess
[20:29] <fluxbox> :)
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> fluxbox,this is kubuntu support not linux chit chat , try #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <fluxbox> Oh ok thank you for the advice :)
[20:32] <fluxbox> Thank you alot :)
[20:53] <AnThRaX> Hello everyone.
[20:56] <AnThRaX> Linux noob having major issues installing Kubuntu on an ASRock z77 Extreme 4(think it's something in the UEFI) can't seem to figure out how to get to legacy BIOS/if possible, looking for a little help, have read many forum threads, guides/tutorials to no avail.
[20:59] <ahoneybun> not too sure AnThRaX
[21:00] <AnThRaX> :-(
[21:01] <ahoneybun> AnThRaX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088049
[21:01] <AnThRaX> I read somewhere about turning off ASMedia things, but when I do that it doesn't see any of my HD;s
[21:03] <ahoneybun> AnThRaX: I can't be sure
[21:04] <ahoneybun> anyway I must jump off now though
[21:05] <AnThRaX> thank you
[21:18] <keithzg> Whoa, there's no option to create a non-Microsoft account login when installing Windows 8.1? Although this could be changed in the actual release, I'm shocked I haven't read about this anywhere.
[22:09] <shankstaBytes> anyone know how i can open a directory in kate?
[22:09] <shankstaBytes> it is kind of confusing
[22:09] <shankstaBytes> I just want to have my directory open so i can easily open files in my project
[22:27] <keithzg> shankstaBytes: Kate just shows all the files it HAS open. So you could open ever file in the directory, if you want. But that's the only way to populate that side-panel with the entirety of a directory that I know of.
[22:36] <AnThRaX> Anyone here that can help a noob with UEFI issues?
[22:39] <AnThRaX> seems the only way i can get kubuntu to start up is to turn off ASMedia SATA3 and not have any sata3 devices hooked up so cant see SSD to install? kubuntu not using Sata3 or?
[23:39] <avihay> shankstaBytes: there's a way
[23:39] <avihay> keithzg: ^
[23:39] <keithzg> avihay: Oh? Do tell!
[23:40]  * keithzg uses Kate daily, and is always curious to learn more, even if generally too lazy to do so unprompted, heh
[23:40] <avihay> in my kate I have labels on the left pannel called Documents, Symbol List, File system browser (the one you want) and projects
[23:40] <avihay> the file system browser let's you roam your directory tree
[23:41] <avihay> if you don't have it, then you need to enable it's plug-in
[23:42] <avihay> go to settings->configure kate
[23:43] <avihay> un the tree on the left side of the config go to the plug-in entry under application (there's another under editor component, I think), and enable all the goodies you want
[23:44] <shankstaBytes> keithzg: hmm how hard is it to make a plugin for kate?
[23:45] <keithzg> shankstaBytes: Probably not terribly hard, but avihay has just outlined how this is actually already existing as a plugin, so no need to :)
[23:45] <avihay> shankstaBytes: kate now has a python plug-in interface, so writing a plugin for kate is as easy as py
[23:45] <avihay> thon programming
[23:46]  * avihay loves Kate
[23:49] <keithzg> It's truly fantastic, eh? At my office my boss is constantly trumpeting how much he loves Notepad++; anytime he tries to win me over with a feature it has I show him how Kate can do the same and also some second thing Notepad++ *can't* do, and he sulks off defeated ;)
[23:50] <genii> notepad-vangelist
[23:51] <Avihay> oh, yhe? how do you do the macro thing N++ has in kate?
[23:52]  * Avihay found out kate regex search and replace is priceless, but also, a tiny bit broken