[19:11] <Skini151> Hi,today i tested "saucy daily image" and encountered a problem , after suspend Ubuntu i can't return to DE, see only black screen/// what package is responsible for this "gnome-power-manager" , "pm-utils" , or the kernel himself.
[19:13] <Skini151> tested on VM
[19:13] <Skini151> both KVM and VirtualBox
[19:14] <hggdh> Skini151: since we do not know what caused the error, we can go conservative, and assume -- for now -- this is a kernel issue
[19:18] <Skini151> can i put the "gnome-power-manager" , "pm-utils" , the kernel logs to this bug on LP, if i am not sure about it
[19:18] <Skini151> ?
[19:20] <hggdh> Skini151: yes, you can.
[19:21] <Skini151> you encountered this kind of bug before?
[19:27] <Skini151> i found a bug that can be similar to mine can you look at it
[19:28] <Skini151> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/linux/+bug/1054732
[19:28] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1054732 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "[LENOVO 4298R86] suspend/resume failure" [High,Confirmed]
[19:31] <Skini151> or this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/linux/+bug/1193661
[19:31] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1193661 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "[Apple Inc. MacBookPro10,1] suspend/resume failure [non-free: wl]" [Medium,Confirmed]
[19:31] <hggdh> Skini151: do you see a kernel oops?
[19:32] <Skini151> nope just black screen and blinking cursor
[19:33] <hggdh> can you access the system via SSH?
[19:34] <hggdh> because I do not see, a priori, any of the above bugs as being relevant
[19:35] <Skini151> no
[19:35] <Skini151> i can't type anything
[19:35] <hggdh> can you ping the VM from your system?
[19:36] <hggdh> the reason is if we do not have data on this, it will be very difficult to solve it
[19:37] <Skini151> at begin cursor blinks but after he just freeze
[19:38] <hggdh> yes, I understand. But we need to be able to gather data.
[19:38] <hggdh> huh
[19:38] <Skini151> it seems that i can access the DE but i see black screen
[19:38] <hggdh> perhaps you will get more help from #ubuntu-quality, the folks there are working continuously on testing Saucy
[19:39] <hggdh> ah, you are already there
[19:39] <Skini151> i will try tomorrow to install on real machine , will that change grub version?
[19:40] <hggdh> no, it will not. But please consider installing *also* SSH. if this is a bug on the DE, you would be able to SSH in, and gather data
[19:40] <Skini151> and after ok
[19:40] <Skini151> oooops
[19:40] <Skini151> ok
[19:40] <Skini151> just ok
[19:41] <hggdh> :-)
[19:41] <hggdh> OK
[19:41] <Skini151> thanks
[19:41] <hggdh> yw
[19:48] <theghost> Hi, I wanted to fix my first ubuntu bug with the help of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix. But when I tried to build a dep from my fixed package (according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix#Testing_the_fix)) a got the following error: "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe4' in position 40: ordinal not in range(128)". Anyone knows what that means ?
[19:50] <hggdh> theghost: that means bzr died with an exception (UnicodeEncodeError). Not good, really.
[19:51] <hggdh> theghost: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:52] <theghost> hggdh: I am running Raring / 13.04
[19:52] <hggdh> theghost: and is it up-to-date? Spefically, is bzr up-to-date?
[19:53] <theghost> hggdh: I install bzr with "sudo apt-get install bzr"
[19:54] <theghost> The error looks somehow similar to this: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/871386"
[19:54] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 871386 in Bazaar "recipe fails to build" [Undecided,Fix released]
[19:55] <hggdh> this is a very old bug, I would expect the current bzr to have the fix
[19:55] <hggdh> theghost: but is the backtrace the same?
[19:57] <hggdh> theghost: ah, no, there is really no bug, sort of. It has something to do with the simlink and/or locale
[19:58] <hggdh> theghost: this is actually a good question -- do you have any simlinks/directories in the path of the bzr operation with, say, umlauts?
[19:58] <theghost> hggdh: yes, looks like an encoding issue. i use utf8
[19:59] <theghost> hggdh: the filepath to the directory contains umlauts. will change and retry
[20:00] <hggdh> (frankly, I would still consider it a bug, bzr should not die because we have localised characters in a path)
[20:05] <theghost> hggdh: ok, now the bzr error is gone. definetely was the umlauts in filepath. thanks. i think too that a version system should not break because of this. I will file a bug for "bzr"
[20:06] <hggdh> theghost: please do. Please also add a link to the bug you found, so that we do not lose the  history
[20:21] <theghost> ok, in case someone is interested I filed this bug for the encoding error:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/1195011
[20:21] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1195011 in bzr (Ubuntu) "bzr-buildpackage fails if directory contains umlauts" [Undecided,New]
[20:22] <theghost> hggh: thanks for your help, hggdh. cya