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dholbachgood morning06:30
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sharifhello17:15
ignacio82QUESTION: Is someone working on a turn by turn gps app for the phone?17:37
k1l_jono: the event timer world time link is wrong. it got a ubuntuonair.com/ in front which makes it fail: http://ubuntuonair.com/www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130626T180017:49
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marlincOh there it is18:02
marlincHello jono18:02
blydrostill just have the ubuntu on air screen...18:02
blydroah there we go18:02
netcurlihello18:02
marlincIt works jono :p18:02
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blydroyeah.18:03
k1l_jono: black screen18:03
sdkyea18:03
Snooopyes18:03
blydroYES18:03
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marlincYes :18:03
marlinc;p18:03
nxvlyes18:03
svetetowyes i see you18:03
nxvlwe see your horrible beard18:03
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ureloadedyes18:03
ureloadedI can see you too18:03
c0de5ec7so many beard haters18:04
c0de5ec7i'm a bearded man18:04
mhall119|onairIt's more of a beardlet18:04
nxvlwe don't hate beards, we hate jono's beard, thats a different thing18:04
blydroha18:04
c0de5ec7hahahha18:04
MehdiHi.18:05
c0de5ec7I enjoyed yesterday's show18:05
ciatmi have a very serious question sir18:05
ciatmdo you even lift bro?18:05
c0de5ec7hahahha18:05
c0de5ec7I lift my beet to my mouth18:06
c0de5ec7*beer18:06
blydroWhy can't I think of a good question?18:06
ciatmdo you even lift bro?18:06
marrabldQUESTION Will I be able do X forwarding over ssh with Mir?18:07
linuxDougQUESTION: what is your favorite flavor in Neapolitan ice cream?18:07
c0de5ec7Yesterday answered my questions18:07
nxvlQUESTION: when are you going to shave?18:07
sdklol linuxDoug18:07
rbernardesAs this progress ubuntu phone?18:07
svetetowQUESTION: which ubuntu version are you using?18:07
marlincQUESTION: What should a project leader do? I'm in a open-source project and I'm wondering what a project leader normally does.18:07
ciatmQUESTION can i watch porn at ubuntu?18:07
mhall119|onairQUESTION: Who is going to be on the next weekly update video?18:07
blydroQUESTION: Can Mir be hacked onto Android?18:07
marrabldQUESTION If you had no choice but to rid the world from either: Free/Open-source software or music, which should you choose?18:07
ciatmQUESTION can i fap to ubuntuĀ“s logo?18:08
c0de5ec7ciatm: go for it18:08
KarielG0is Canonical thinking about providing any services like email?18:08
rbernardesQUESTION As this progress ubuntu phone?18:08
rigid_rexIs ubuntu going to introduce any good and useful software recently like an alternative to autocad?18:08
MehdiIs is true that Ubuntu Gnome is far more less stable than Ubuntu "Vanilla". If so, why ?18:08
mhall119|onairrigid_rex:start with QUESTION:18:08
pikuhow to make crontab18:09
k1l_QUESTION: i still hear some critics that its not clear what data will be send from the dash-searches through ubuntu/canonical-servers and what will be kept and for how long, etc. will that be cleared up?18:09
cRzyyo18:09
k1l_ciatm: lets stick to family friendly topics in here :)18:09
mhall119|onairk1l_:all of that information is already public18:10
t3nj1nQUESTION: In light of the #NSA leaks, is Ubuntu planning making any changes to how it will decide to use scopes in the dash?18:10
james007QUESTION: What are Ubuntus plans with ubuntu one? Any more new features coming some time soon?18:10
k1l_mhall119|onair: you have a link for that? i get asked about quite alot about that.18:10
Max_TitherQUESTION:Do you record your guitar on your computer with Ubuntu. If so, what software do you use?18:11
mhall119|onairk1l_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartScopes1304Spec18:11
ureloadedMax_Tither: audacity is a good option18:11
nxvlQUESTION: are there going to be physical UDSs in the near future?18:11
dimiternQUESTION: When is ubuntu one going to support syncing outside of the home partition? :)\18:11
k1l_mhall119|onair: thanks, will take a look at it.18:11
SnooopQUESTION what kind of support would i get when using ubuntu servers/machines in a small business thats just a wee bit to small to hire a IT prick ?18:11
rigid_rexIs ubuntu going to release any useful software like autocad?18:12
KarielG0QUESTION is Canonical thinking about providing any services like email?18:12
mhall119|onairrigid_rex:start with QUESTION:18:12
drparnyQUESTION: Are there plans for Ubuntu for Android to be integrated with Ubuntu Touch and be available along with Touch images for use/testing?18:12
dimiternloolll18:12
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t3nj1nguess, he's not going to address my question? :\18:14
t3nj1noo.18:14
t3nj1nnvm18:14
t3nj1nbeing answered by a present q:18:14
mhall119|onairt3nj1n:give him time18:14
t3nj1n=) thx.18:14
rigid_rexQUESTION: Is ubuntu going to release any useful software like autocad?18:14
KarielG0QUESTION can you unveil some informations about manufacturers of phones powered by Ubuntu Touch?18:14
KarielG0QUESTION what phone are you using?18:15
CiatmQUESTION can be the new ubuntu logo a picture of my scrotum?18:15
cRzylolo18:15
t3nj1ngood answer! thanks Jono.18:15
anahitavakQUESTION: YouTube works really bad on Firefox, sometimes I have to switch from Firefox to Chromium just because of YouTube. Is it gonna be fixed, and when?18:16
RegiMotionWill the new Ubuntu One has the feature like the AirDrop of the OSX.. This will be nice for simple file sharing..18:16
Ciatmnot troll, im just looking for answers18:16
Ciatmi dont know anything18:16
svetetowQUESTION: I do not know where I heard but i did that MS Office is coming on Linux. Is anything more known about this?18:16
mhall119|onairCiatm:we're all grownups on the internet, you're not going to offend our sensibilities, you're just wasting our time18:16
sebsebsebhi a dab late here, but hi18:17
mhall119|onairhey sebsebseb!18:17
KarielG0QUESTION what do you think about Linux Mint?18:17
sebsebsebmhall119|onair: jonair ????18:17
FyksenQUESTION: I live in a Country where there are no Telephone providers who has shown interest in Ubuntu Phone (not a part of the 8-9 first). I'm not worried about not getting a phone (can always buy from outside Norway), but I want carriers in my country to take interest. What do you think is the best way to get them to take interest?18:17
mhall119|onairsebsebseb:I'm not onair, no18:18
sebsebsebmhall119|onair: yes I can see that, but what's the jonair about in your name then? :d18:18
mhall119|onairoh, logged in from the webchat widget on ubuntuonair.com18:18
sebsebseboh ok18:18
sebsebsebthat explains it I guess :d18:18
mhall119This one is my regular IRC client18:18
mhall119:)18:18
ureloadedQUESTION: please play a bit of music once you finish the stream, that's the main reason why i like your live shows18:18
sebsebsebmhall119: yep18:18
KarielG0QUESTION will Unity get more "flat" like iOS7?18:18
snwhI heard there was bacon here18:19
sebsebsebQUESTION: Chromium or FIrefox which do you prefer and why?  Also what do you think about 13.10 using Chromium by default instead of FIrefox possibly?18:19
k1l_QUESTION: will ubuntu put wayland into the repos. maybe as a debian sync?18:19
c0de5ec7hey ho erc18:19
james007QUESTION: Since my Android device is on it's last legs, I'd like to know when can I buy an Ubuntu powered phone/ phablet/ smartwatch etc. (mainland Europe)18:20
pwny_wan_kenobiQuestion: Is rolling release still being considered? Is the idea dead or maybe waiting for after 14.04?18:20
RAZORQWhat is difference between porting ubuntu touch to arm and to x86 devices?18:21
RAZORQQUESTION:What is difference between porting ubuntu touch to arm and to x86 devices?18:21
cRzyhttp://librecad.org/cms/home.html18:21
KarielG0QUESTION are chances that Ubuntu can get to our lives? schools, universities, offices etc.18:22
Ciatmi just want some answers18:22
Ciatmim so curious18:22
pulu_What kind of schedule is with GPS?18:22
jabawack81QUESTION there is any plan in ubuntu about Raspberry Pi?18:22
sebsebsebQUESTION:  I read recentlly about how someone from Canonical had got GNOME 3,  and I belive both  XFCE and LXDE as well, working with  Mir in like a kind of  Legacy Xorg mode,  but what do you think if these projects decide to not support Mir when it's a bit more developed,  and  instead stay with Xorg/Wayland?18:22
pulu_QUESTION: What kind of schedule is with GPS?18:23
k1l_jabawack81: the ARM chip is too old. ubuntu runs with armv7, but the rpi is armv618:23
Ciatmdamnit, virgins can have fun too though18:23
KarielG0QUESTION will Canonical more focus on being stable? 12.10 was a great work about it but 13.04 is horrible18:23
pwny_wan_kenobiFREEBIRD!!18:23
cRzyYES guitar18:23
cRzyYES guitar18:24
KarielG0YES to guitar18:24
cRzyYES guitar18:24
cRzyYES guitar18:24
cRzyYES guitar18:24
pulu_yes guitar18:24
ureloadedYEs GUITAR18:24
jabawack81thanks k1l_18:24
dexoryes guitar18:24
cRzylets spam18:24
Ciatmyes FAP18:24
marrabldDRUMS!18:24
nxvlNO18:24
CiatmFAP18:24
Max_TitherQUESTION: Is Ubuntu going to have a big presence in XDADevCon13.18:24
KarielG0QUESTION what do you think about Opera?18:24
dimiternQUESTION: What's planned for OSCON and juju?18:24
ureloadedQUESTION: I really want to have an Ubuntu OS phone, is there an estimate price for them already?18:25
Matthew_Moorei always use Chrome/Chomium.  Firefox has very very poor performance on my system18:25
sebsebsebQUESTION: To go with KarielG0 's question,  I read that Opera will drop their own propritgary rendering engine Presto and go to Webkit, whilst not even open sourceing presto it seems.  Do you think  they should open source Presto, and not just kill it off?18:26
momitsQUESTION: are there any plans for an android compatibilty layer in the ubuntu phone? probably installable as an app?18:27
snwhQUESTION: butt or leg? pork for smoking that is. :)18:28
KarielG0QUESTION will be easy to put a luncher such as Launcher 8 or Smart Launcher on Ubuntu Touch?18:28
TitmasterQUESTION do i need to be virgin to use ubuntu?18:28
dexorQUESTION Will Ubuntu offer updates for most used software..like VLC, Gimp, Inkscape,...like a Top10 or Top20 apps to be updated every new release like Firefox?18:29
KarielG0QUESTION will be phones powered by Ubuntu Touch very open? on Android phones you need to unlock the bootloader etc.18:29
mhall119|onairRaspberry Pi has an ARMv6 chip, Ubuntu only supports ARMv7 and up18:29
SimonK1QUESTION: How will I be able to pay for apps? paypal, visa, via carrier-bill?18:30
svetetowQUESTION: I apologize if someone already asked. When will ubuntu for mobile released for public?18:30
ctk22QUESTION: How long does it take for an app on the Touch/Collection list to be included on the the Collection PPA?18:30
KarielG0QUESTION is Canonical thinking about cooperating with such companies like Intel, Nvidia and AMD?18:30
Matthew_MooreQUESTION: so with Xmir  i can still have my beloved Compiz?18:31
mhall119|onairdexor: users have to enable statistics collection, but http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ has data for those that do18:31
KarielG0QUESTION what do you think about iOS7?18:31
snwhQUESTION: was that a lot of questions in a row?18:31
mhall119|onairMatthew_Moore: yes18:31
Matthew_MooreYAY!!!!18:32
Matthew_Moore:)18:32
RAZORQQUESTION: Where I can find tutorial for porting ubuntu touch for intel Medfield (x86 android) device?18:32
KarielG0QUESTION will be Unity completely gnome-free like Cinnamon is going to be?18:32
mhall119|onairKarielG0: that's not a specific goal, no18:32
cRzymate ftw!!!!!!!18:32
NicolascageHow did you get your foot in the door, for linux?18:33
mhall119|onairNicolascage: start your question with QUESTION:18:33
dexormhall119|onair thank you for the link :D18:33
mhall119|onairnp18:33
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cRzylolol18:34
pokemasterhttp://www.xvideos.com/video1503074/prolapse_extrem_monster_asshole_analdehner_asslips18:34
FyksenDamn Mark, always pinging on IRC... So annoing..18:34
Max_TitherQUESTION: Is it more efficient to run Lxde, Xfce, KDE on xMir, vs just X.org?18:35
cRzydafuq is mark ?18:35
cRzyhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/971309_574545399235263_202249883_n.jpg18:36
Guest57063Will unity ever get faster?18:36
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SimonK2QUESTION: Do you have a few general tipps / often made mistakes for reporting bugs?18:37
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dimiternawesome!18:38
bpb101QUESTION:  do you think that  graphics card drivers providers not have problems  with supporting mir, wayland and x.org considering their resources dedicated to linux is small as it stand.18:38
mhall119|onairSimonK2: best tip is to give as much detail about the problem as possible18:38
KarielG0QUESTION I think that on the Ubuntu's site the downloading site is made wrong - 13.04 should be marked as only for enthusiasts, newbies want to have features so they download 13.04 which isn't a good choice for them. what do you think about it?18:38
cRzyQUESTION: im bald to, have you ever tried minoxidil ?18:39
SimonK2mhall119|onair: I'm trying but it's often that bugs won't even get reviewed.18:39
BebberleKarielG0, I think it has to be marked like your opinion.18:39
BogQI asqued before about LG Optiums P500, could be compatible after a while with Ubuntu Touch, or it doesn meet the specif.?18:39
mhall119|onairSimonK2:there are lots of bugs being reported, but if you can get other people to mark it as affecting them, it'll increase it's priority18:39
RAZORQBogQ: Your phone doesn't meet specification so i think ubuntu will don't worki on it18:40
BebberleKarielG0, did you write a message for the support?18:40
mhall119|onairSimonK2: again though, the more detail you provide the easier it is for a developer to verify it and usually makes it easier to fix too18:40
BogQOh, I sorry.... Wold be nice to have Ubuntu Touch. Thanks for answer18:40
SimonK2mhall119|onair: My problems are often hardware-related. My Notebook is somewhat "special" (or "old" ;) ) so it's hard to find others...18:41
sebsebseboh back in  time for my question live just :d18:41
sebsebsebcomputer issue18:41
KarielG0Bebberle, I didn't but we could do so, search on YT "linu4unme" this guy was talking about it and he's also thinking so18:41
c0de5ec7QUESTION: Will Chromium be the default browser for 13.10?18:41
sebsebseboh wait no I am behind on the video I think since I put back :d oh well :d18:41
sebsebsebhe's not answering my Opera question now? :d18:42
dshimerQUESTION: What in the world were you doing with 14 lbs of pork?18:42
BebberleKarielG0, together we could change that with the alert, which is lost.18:42
RAZORQBogQ: maybe it will work but i think it will be really laggy18:42
BogQI see18:42
SimonK1test18:42
SimonK1ah18:43
KarielG0Bebberle we could take some people, look 4 me on skype "karielg0"18:43
NicolasCageWhat was the question tag?18:43
KarielG0QUESTION what do you think about Skype on Linux? I have a lot of problems with the new relase18:43
BebberleKarielG0, is it a problem that I am living in Germany? ^^18:43
KarielG0Bebberle, as long as you know English ok :D18:44
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sebsebsebQUESTION: What do you think of BSD? Have you used it? If so which version or verisons?18:44
codebansheeQUESTION: has a decision been made about potential mapping solutions to go along with the locations support/GPS or is that being left to any developer of a GPS application?18:44
BebberleI try it, but it does not work sometimes.18:44
OpenMNQUESTION: Is there any information about adoption of Ubuntu Kylin in China? I am going there to teach in a couple weeks and want to show off Ubuntu to anyone who asks about it.18:44
sebsebsebBebberle: BSD ?18:45
BebberleWhat does BSD mean?18:45
sebsebseboh nevermind18:45
sebsebsebno read scroll up after that :d  your talking about something else18:45
NicolasCageQUESTION: How did you get your foot in the door, switching to linux? I'm considering making the switch to ubuntu, all of this terminology is confusing though. Is there a sort of Glossary of Linux terms anywhere? Also, can I run windows Apps at all?18:45
BebberleOh okay, I use Precise Pangolin. Is that what you mean? :-D18:46
Max_TitherQUESTION: Will Ubuntu have a big presence at XDADecCon13. Is it worth going?18:46
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bpb101QUESTIONS: Will canonical lower the minimum price of the software centre on the phone as most apps in the app store are 79 cent18:46
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sebsebsebQUESTION: If Canonical makes deals with companies such as Nvidia, AMD, and so on,  I hope in general would at least to some extent have the whole Linux distro ecossytem in mind,  to make support better on all or most distros, but do you have any comments about this?18:47
RAZORQNicolasCage: I was scared about this terminilogy too, but when i installed it take me to two days to learn using Ubuntu and Unity :)18:47
OpenMNNicolasCage: http://www.tuxradar.com/newtolinux18:47
mhall119|onairMax_Tither: yes!18:48
BebberlePressing Super helped me very much to get used to Ubuntu and Unity.18:48
Guest57063Will Ubuntu touch ever be able to tun on x86 type chips like Atom?18:49
Max_TitherThanks mhall119|onair I'm hoping on going.18:49
mhall119|onairMax_Tither: be sure to come and say Hi to me if you do :)18:49
RAZORQGuest57063: Yeah and they will be super ubuntu phones :) What phone u using?18:50
KarielG0QUESTION are you using a graphic card made by Intel, Nvidia or AMD?18:50
Max_TitherSure thing. I am excited to go and see the Ubuntu people.18:50
Max_TitherI really admire them.18:50
BebberleI use a Nvidia graphic card. And who is german here?18:50
mhall119|onairthanks :)18:50
KarielG0Bebberle I'm waiting for your invite18:50
snwhQUESTION: given Android is heavy with Google services and iOS with Apple's, how does Ubuntu intend to differentiate itself in terms of services available? Will it continue to plug into 3rd party apps or (continue to) develop a service ecosystem?18:51
KarielG0QUESTION will there be more Q&As?18:51
snwhKarielG0, they're every wednesday (usually)18:52
mhall119|onairKarielG0: he does these every week18:52
sebsebsebQUESTION: Computer issue earlier so didn't get a question in and my question was basically this:  Do you see Ubuntu as being just some down streame distro,  or more like a platform now, which some people think is bad.  What I mean is most distro's tend to only or mainly ship upstream versions of software,  but for some things Ubuntu/Canonical is becoming a upstream itself really as well,  Unity and Mir for example.  On top of that18:52
sebsebsebtargetting phones and TV for example, which most distro's can't really do I think, since those markets are to commerical.18:52
Bebberle@ KarielG0: I sent it two minutes ago.18:52
sebsebsebuh18:52
sebsebsebreally that long18:52
KarielG0ok it's because I just liked Ubuntu on facebook and I got the nottification because of it18:52
sebsebsebhe'll probably cut some of that out :d18:53
KarielG0Bebberle confirmed18:53
BebberleYes, thank you.18:53
Guest57063@Razorq... I don't have a phone.  I have lenovo 310-st touch.  I would like to put Ubuntu touch on it.18:54
mhall119|onairGuest57063: there will be a Unity 8 session available in 13.1018:55
sebsebsebQUESTION: Guitar time?18:55
BebberleIs there a official german support for Ubuntu in general?18:55
mhall119|onairBebberle:you mean localisation?18:56
RAZORQ^And Polish?18:56
sebsebsebQUESTION: Read a article suggesting Google should maybe buy out Canonical, because of the success of Android basically I think it was, what do you think about such stuff?18:56
mhall119|onairsebsebseb:makes no sense18:56
Bebberlemhall119|onair, a official website sounds good. Is there something like that for germany?18:56
RAZORQ^U realise that if will google buy canonical, ubuntu will be very popular :)18:57
aringanis this always available ? I mean this chatroom18:57
mhall119|onairBebberle: Ubuntu itself should be fully translated into German, were's also a German loco team: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/18:58
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DimitarBQUESTION: When ubuntu phone emulator will be released?18:58
mhall119|onairaringan:yes, you can also /join #ubuntu or #ubuntu-touch (and many more) to join other rooms/channels18:58
k1l_QUESTION: do you do guitar practise sessions before the Q&A? :)19:00
kieran177why would people leave before guitar time? :)19:00
KarielG0QUESTION what do you think about Ukulele?19:01
sebsebsebKarielG0: Not everyone likes guitar?19:01
sebsebsebwrong one for kieran17719:01
kieran177i suppose19:01
dexorsome people come for info some to troll and some for the whole ubuntu experience :D19:02
Max_TitherThanks everyone:)19:02
Hkryyjillathank you!19:02
SimonK1mhall119|onair if I'm having a bug and a similar bug is already filled [Note: I'm a noob and can't verify that my problem is the same as the already filled one]. Should I still submit my bug-report? and should I mark my bug-report as a duplicate of this "already filled one"?19:02
dimiterngreat session!19:02
netcurlithanks19:02
KarielG0see ya19:02
marlincBye jono :19:02
marlinc:p19:02
dexorgood bye :D19:02
mhall119|onairSimonK1: if you're pretty sure yours is a duplicate, either don't file a new one and just mark the other as affecting you, or (if you've already filed a new bug) mark yours as a duplicate19:03
mhall119|onairif you're not sure, leave them separate and someone else can mark it as a duplicate later after verifying19:03
SimonK1mhall119|onair: thanks :)19:09
asdf1234QUESTION: What socks are you wearing right now?19:09
ewrryes19:14
ewrri see u19:14
c0de5ec7and I see you19:14
asdf1234QUESTION: What underwear are you wearing?19:16
c0de5ec7walrus leather19:16
rcmaehlWeb based irc is horrible on mobile phones19:23
k1l_you can use a real irc client, most mobile OS got them in their market19:23
rcmaehlOh yeah... andchat has multiapp support19:24
rcmaehlBrb19:25
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StonesWhen can we expect photo editing software friendly to photoshop users who want to go Ubuntu20:38
sebsebsebStones: uhmm The Gimp even more so, when set to the one window mode?20:38
sebsebsebInkscape to an extent even20:38
sebsebsebStones: plus there are lesser known  graphics programs for Desktop Linux20:39
sebsebsebthat's Ubuntu and other distros in general to :).  Really Photoshop is a load of hype and expensive,  and not needed by most people,  with the exception of certain professional graphics designers, becasue of certain needed features, that other graphics programs don't tend to have.  For the average  graphics person it's not really needed.20:40
sebsebsebStones: by the way the jono Bacon Questions and answers session is over untill probably next year, then you can ask him that :d20:40
sebsebsebStones: untill next week, above, typed wrong thing20:41
melenas1414oohhh21:01
melenas1414what do we have today?21:02

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