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RobbyFhow do i run a fully functional shell?00:41
RobbyFon desktop that is.00:41
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UnderSampledRobbyF: huh?01:01
bjvRobbyF: I think you are asking for   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Accessing_the_device_over_ADB01:28
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ubumoin03:31
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phixubu: werd03:48
ubuphix: hm?03:50
phixReplying to your "moin"03:50
ubuis english only here?03:51
phixNo idea, although English is the only language I will understand.03:52
ubuokay. :)03:53
ubucan i use that ubuntu touch for my sony xperia tipo dual?03:53
bjvpopey: how goes Evaluating existing email clients and frameworks?03:55
bjvpopey: any more promising than Trojitá?   https://projects.flaska.net/projects/trojita/repository03:55
mhall119bjv: Trojita is being considered, yes, we should have a decision soon and will let everybody know as soon as we do03:56
bjvcool. (longtime meego user, 2nd day playing with ubuntu-touch)03:57
bjvis there a runner up, beyond assembling fully custom client from parts?03:58
mhall119what do you mean by "runner app"?04:02
mynameisdeleted2hi all06:03
mynameisdeleted2can ubuntu-touch run on top of android(which runs a linux kernel)06:03
mynameisdeleted2or do Ihave to buy a phone designed for ubuntu touch?06:04
mynameisdeleted2do any us companies cary ubuntu-touch phones.. or support running them?06:05
dholbachgood morning06:31
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WebbyITHi everyone, I have a question about Dialog. I want to modify text of a Dialog out of the Dialog. To understand, this is my code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800857/ How can I do what I want? Or, there is a best way to do what I want (an error popup with custom text)? Thanks in advance :)08:10
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Chocolate Pudding Day! :-D08:31
kalikianaWebbyIT, define a property like "property string errorText" outside of the component08:33
kalikianathen define the popover text like "text: errorText"08:34
WebbyITkalikiana: thanks you :)08:35
WebbyITkalikiana: it's work :D08:35
MacSlowSaviq, I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/119462908:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 1194629 in touch-preview-images "incoming call notifications missing avatar" [High,In progress]08:36
SaviqMacSlow, cheers08:36
SaviqMacSlow, I added lp:unity-notifications to the bug, too08:39
Saviqand changed the title08:39
MacSlowSaviq, ok... proper solution is of course to support these hints in the backend... but that might take a bit longer than fixing phone-app directly. Just wanted to provide an easy/fast way out of the regression.08:40
SaviqMacSlow, sure, of course, and thanks for that, will ping boiko about this later08:41
MacSlowSaviq, supporting "image_data" is going to be tricky... "image_path" should not be so much of an issue08:41
SaviqMacSlow, or you could just MR against lp:phone-app :)08:41
MacSlowSaviq, can do an MR too np08:41
SaviqMacSlow, yeah, we generally lack support for stuff like this, but I think it should be doable08:42
SaviqMacSlow, I'm thinking an image provider with "image://data/$some_hash"08:43
SaviqMacSlow, the backend would then inject the image data for the provider08:43
SaviqMacSlow, and then get that $some_hash back08:43
SaviqMacSlow, obviously memory management is important here, too08:44
MacSlowSaviq, MR is up08:49
SaviqMacSlow, cheers08:50
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trissyis there a list of translations for the .zip file names for saucy preinstalls? I have no idea which one is designed for my tablet.09:09
k1lwhich is you tablet?09:09
trissygalaxy 10.109:09
k1ldid you look into the wiki page about ubuntu touch install? (mentioned in the topic)09:10
k1lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices  there you can find your device09:12
trissythank you, not supported yet. appreciate the help, though.09:13
k1ltrissy: not officialy supported but community supported09:13
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bzoltandoes anybody know if  the phablet-network-setup should work with the flapped image?09:30
ajbiz11Might I ask if anyone knows the passwords for the default users? I am working from the Guest user and it's a bit annoying...09:31
ajbiz11cant even seem to get into device settings09:31
bzoltanajbiz11: was not it phablet user and phablet password09:33
ajbiz11no, not for the default users on the lock screen...09:34
ajbiz11and somehow my plam just got me into the "Device" settings tab...09:34
ajbiz11ah, far right...got that down...09:35
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bzoltan ajbiz11:  what device do you use?09:35
ajbiz11I am currently using an unoffical port: acclain09:36
ajbiz11*acclaim09:36
kalikianahmm 11:43:43 on the standby screen, 11:44 in the panel09:44
ajbiz11i would say submit to the tracker, but i think the time is passed09:45
kalikianaI think the panel is correct, but the standby somehow lags behind a lot09:46
ajbiz11Alright, can I use adb push/pull in the ubuntu_chroot?09:46
kalikianaajbiz11, what is it you want to achieve?09:47
ogra_you can use it in android ... the ubuntu chroot lives in /data/ubuntu09:47
ogra_just prefix the target dir with that to copy inside the chroot09:48
ajbiz11kalikiana,   I would like to pull a file from my device to my PC, and oga_, thank you, that is what I needed...09:48
kalikianaFYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/phablet-tools/+bug/1194823 the clock bug10:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 1194823 in Phablet Tools "Standby screen clock lags behind panel clock" [Undecided,New]10:12
nik90loicm: can I ask about the status of the new UbuntuShape widget? Is there a beta?10:19
loicmnik90: I plan to push a branch showing off the new features at the end of the week, not the final stuff though10:22
loicmnik90: what's your need for it?10:22
nik90I need it for the clock app visual design implementations10:23
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ns5in a button definition, how to access the width and height of the top level MainView?10:37
kalikianans5, you probably want to do it the other way around; set the button's properties from outside10:39
ns5kalikiana: do you mean get screen width and height in MainView, and then caculate button width and height in MainView?10:42
kalikianans5, yes10:45
ns5kalikiana: that way button.qml would depend on variables which defined outside of it, is it a problem?10:46
kalikianans5, I'm saying I would set something like "width: myMainView.width / 3" on the button10:47
kalikianato not have the button magically make assumptions on where it sits10:47
kalikianaif you for example later want to have it in a smaller area you can easily tweak it - but not if the button hard-codes its size10:49
ns5kalikiana: so I should give the MainView an id, so the button can find the height/width of the MainView by e.g. mymainview.height or mymainview.width?10:50
kalikianans5, I said the exact opposite, I guess I'm not explaining very well :-D10:50
ns5kalikiana: could you give me a simple example10:51
kalikianans5, maybe you can paste a small snippet showing your "button" to reduce the confusion, I might not think of the same thing as you10:52
kalikianaall I am thinking of is, simplified: MainView { id: myMain { Button { width: myMain.width } }10:53
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kalikianaany subclass of Button works in this example10:53
ns5kalikiana: mainview.qml: http://pastebin.com/qbiCGwrh  simplepage.qml (with button): http://pastebin.com/qqjWDKNU10:55
kalikianans5, how about using simpleroot.width10:59
kalikianamy rule of thumb is, don't use parent properties outside of the file10:59
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test_hello11:01
ns5kalikiana: if parent is in the same file, it's ok to use its properties?11:04
jibelogra_, do you know if CONFIG_DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES is enabled by default on latest flipped images (20130625 / grouper in my case)?11:04
ogra_i think so ...11:04
jibelI'm trying to start a second container but start failed with lxc-start: Device or resource busy - failed to mount a new instance of '/dev/pts'11:04
ogra_zgrep CONFIG_DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES /proc/config.gz11:04
kalikianans5, yes. that's my recommendation anyway - to keep things re-usable11:05
jibel# zgrep CONFIG_DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES /proc/config.gz11:05
jibel# CONFIG_DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES is not set11:05
jibelbah :/11:05
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ogra_jibel, file a bug then11:09
ogra_apw,  ^^^11:09
ogra_jibel, it is set on maguro btw11:10
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ckpringleKaleo: hey. How do I make a grid of items with the ubuntu shape?11:29
ckpringleKaleo: which APIs would I need? QML has a grid view already right? Because we will have some variations of grid views on the design guides, but to what would they link?11:29
Kaleockpringle: show me the variations11:43
Kaleockpringle: but usually it's GridView11:43
Kaleockpringle: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-gridview.html11:43
seb128Kaleo, hey, can I ask you a quick qml question? ;-)11:46
Kaleoseb128: shoot11:46
seb128Kaleo, what's the recommended way to put buttons in a list that have the same margins as other list items?11:47
seb128Kaleo, like the "Add accounts..." button on that design: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OnlineAccounts?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-accounts-top-none.png11:47
seb128Kaleo, should I just hardcode the margin as units.gu(2) which is what list item use? or is that a constant I can use11:48
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Guest84342can ubuntu on sony xperia z11:51
seb128Kaleo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1194844 if that's better than the question11:52
ubot5Launchpad bug 1194844 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[ListItem] should provide an easy way to add a button entry with adequate spacing" [Undecided,New]11:52
Kaleoseb128: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5801273/11:54
sjaakHello11:55
sjaakcan ubuntu touch on my xperia z?11:55
seb128Kaleo, thanks ... doesn't that defeat a bit the purpose of a SingleControl item though if the recommendation is to the use Base? ;-)11:56
sjaakcan ubuntu touch on my xperia z?11:57
Kaleoseb128: it does, I renamed the bug11:58
seb128Kaleo, btw I noticed the verticalCenter thing, could you/somebody from the sdk look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1190196 and tell me if that's a bug or not (I'm reluctant to add extra code to do the verticalCentering if the sdk toolkit should be doing it)11:58
ubot5Launchpad bug 1190196 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "ListItem.Standard's control should be vertically centered" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:58
seb128Kaleo, thanks11:58
seb128Kaleo, do you recommend we use the ListItem.Base way or just keep using ListItem.SingleControl with wrong spacing knowing that it will fix itself once the sdk is fixed?11:59
Kaleoseb128: brilliant seb11:59
Kaleoseb128: thanks for your contribution12:00
apwjibel, let me know the number and i'll get it fixed up12:00
Kaleoseb128: we should never merge broken things to products12:00
Kaleoseb128: ie. any hack, workaround is valid to make things work for the user12:00
seb128Kaleo, "thanks" I guess ... not sure if that patch is correct and it's a small one, so not sure if that's irony :p12:01
Kaleoseb128: though if you use ListItem.Base, make sure to add a FIXME with a link to the bug report12:01
seb128Kaleo, well, I don't like to add hacks because then the toolkit get fixed and your hacks break/are nont needed/...12:01
Kaleoseb128: agreed12:02
seb128Kaleo, I prefer to have visual glitches with correct code, that gives more insensitive to fix the real problem and it doesn't force you do come back later dropping the hacks12:02
Kaleoseb128: btw, the fix in SingleControl can't be difficult12:02
Kaleoseb128: the margin is exposed to it as the __contentsMargins property12:02
Kaleoseb128: and put users in pain12:02
seb128Kaleo, well, as long as the "product" is not a beta product, I agree that things should look right when you get close from production12:02
seb128Kaleo, anyway, thanks for the chats and the workarounds/suggestions, I think I've what I need (and I abused your time enough for a day ;-)12:04
Kaleoyw12:04
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jibelapw, bug 119485012:19
ubot5bug 1194850 in linux (Ubuntu) "CONFIG_DEVPTS_MULTIPLE_INSTANCES not set on grouper images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119485012:19
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popeyis it me or is the camera icon the wrong way round in the camera app? i.e. when in photo mode it shows an icon of a video camera, and in video mode it shows an icon of a stills (SLR)?13:05
ali1234popey: that is the right way around13:08
ali1234the icon shows what the button does if you press it13:08
ali1234it is not an indication of current mode13:09
popeyits inconsistent with the flash icon then13:09
popeythe flash icon indicates current mode13:09
ali1234well, can't have everything13:09
popeyhah13:09
ali1234obviously one of them must be wrong13:09
popeyin android it shows current mode, and you press to flip mode13:10
popeyand ios too13:10
popeyArguably the photo/record button also indicates mode. Shows a shutter for photo and a red light/button for video.13:12
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esigoloAnyone know if it will be possible to create folders to organize apps?13:22
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popeyesigolo: good question!13:30
popeyI've not seen that in the shell designs..13:30
esigoloI say this because today I had to organize my apps on android and I wondered how it would look for apps in touch13:31
Pol16hi13:39
popeyhi Pol1613:41
davmor2popey: what the magic settings to make spelling suggestions show up?13:47
davmor2popey: or is that not in the daily builds yet?13:48
mhall119esigolo: how would you want to organize them?13:51
ali1234by category i should expect13:52
ali1234like putting all the games together13:52
esigoloalso as i want ! i mean creating folders for my favorite apps13:52
esigoloutilities13:53
pmcgowanesigolo, its much more search oriented, plus there will be categories which can expand and collapse13:53
pmcgowannot sure if you can assign your own category13:53
ali1234you can't do this on the desktop in a reasonable way, i doubt the phone will be any different13:53
mhall119you'll already have a games category13:54
ali1234but you can't add or remove things from it. if things don't happen to be categorized the way you want your only option is to open a text editor and start editing .desktop files13:55
esigoloali1234: in desktop mode but it is different in normal mode is very useful to be able to separate your apps any way you want13:55
ogra_ali1234, so write a QML based .desktop file editor :)13:55
ali1234i know, it's useful. i do in on android by just having multiple desktops13:56
ali1234i put all the games (but only the ones i actually like) on one desktop13:56
ali1234one for all the internet stuff, one for maps etc13:56
ali1234i think this is pretty typical usage13:56
mhall119Pol16: you can chat in here13:56
Pol16Thanks mhall11913:57
Pol16Do we can at the moment add any app to the launcher in ubuntu phone?14:01
popeyPol16: not yet..14:02
Pol16ok popey14:02
FunkyPenguinare there any plans to have the device show up on the desktop when connected?14:03
ogra_indeed14:04
FunkyPenguinby what means, MTP?14:06
FunkyPenguinand will that be soon?14:06
ogra_either MTP or mass storage14:06
* FunkyPenguin would rather mass storage than MTP14:07
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ali1234mass storage has problems14:07
FunkyPenguinas does MTP ;)14:07
ali1234like you can't access the files on the phone while it is exported14:08
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FunkyPenguintrue, but my experience is that MTP is much slower at file transfer14:08
ogra_it also forces you to use ntfs/vfat if you want to have it accessible on windows iirc14:08
FunkyPenguinand i never want to access the files at the same time14:09
ali1234there's no reason for MTP to be slower other than bad implementation14:09
FunkyPenguinfair enough14:09
ali1234yeah but it means you need to have a separate partition at the very least, and probably FAT as mentioned14:09
FunkyPenguinok next question, if I install evolution for email can i access it from the phone without too much hassle or will the display be utter boulderdash?14:10
ogra_there is no X on the phone14:10
ogra_so evo wont run14:11
ali1234how is the image size and memory usage now compared with the first release?14:11
FunkyPenguinogra_: ah, that would indeed problematic14:11
ali1234is it worth even trying to put the new version on galaxysmtd?14:11
ogra_depends on the porter :)14:11
ogra_and if he kept the HW image up to date14:12
FunkyPenguinin that case could someone implement an ews extension to the mail app?14:12
ali1234i didn't14:12
Pol16I have some doubts about unity webapp integration in Ubuntu Touch, I mean how will they be installed? Will we have to go to a web page and then download a package from this web like in desktop?14:12
ali1234the initial release only just fit14:12
FunkyPenguinif im going to use my ubuphone for work i need exchange access14:12
ali1234if it has grown at all it won't work14:12
FunkyPenguinplease?14:12
FunkyPenguinmhall119: did you get my email btw?14:12
ogra_ali1234, it dropped quite somw fat14:13
ogra_*some14:13
ali1234good14:13
ali1234how has the porting process changed with the container switch?14:13
ogra_we dont default to flipped containers with ports yet14:14
ogra_you will still get the old setup14:14
ogra_(and can use the old methods ... repo sync ... and brunch away ... )14:15
ali1234ok14:15
ali1234so i just sync and rebuild and fix anything that broke?14:15
ogra_right14:15
Cyb10101Hi, has anyone experience with HTC Sensation? I want Ubuntu to the mobile phone flashing, but at step 4 it no longer goes on ...14:15
esigoloany plans to I9000b?14:15
ogra_i just uploaded the initrd package that will flipped containers possible on ports ... waiting for an archive admin to let it free from the "first upload quarantaine"14:16
ogra_*will make14:16
ali1234with flipped containers we'll still use the android kernel?14:16
ogra_yes14:16
ogra_but an ubuntu initrd to boot directly into the ubuntu rootfs14:17
ali1234what about adb?14:17
ogra_where we fire up an lxc container that runs android14:17
ogra_adb is kind of ported over ... you can use it14:17
ogra_adbd runs under ubuntu14:17
aweogra_, cyphermox... 3g is still broken on mako.  I updated *both* bugs14:17
ogra_bah14:18
tvoss_zsombi, ping14:25
ogra_awe, hmm, would be intresting to see if these devices are seen if your USB cable isnt plugged in14:25
zsombitvoss_:pong14:25
aweogra_, I'll check...14:26
ogra_awe, the behavior reminds me pretty much of what we had with the g_ether gadget module on the n7 desktop images14:26
aweogra_, reboot is still borked14:28
aweah...just slow14:28
ogra_yeah, shutting down is awfully slow14:28
awe( although it failed after phablet-flash again this morning on mako )14:28
ogra_the boot is sstill awful as well14:29
ogra_but starting to fix that before we have lightdm, proper session mgmt et cetc in place doesnt make sense14:29
aweogra_, yea... mako is *really* slow to boot14:29
ogra_maguro too14:29
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/bootchart-maguro.png14:30
ogra_39sec14:30
aweI'm still waiting for mako14:30
sergiusensawe: adb reboot fails? Let me setup a loop14:30
AskUbuntuUbuntu touch on a Mediatek MT6589 Quad Core 1.2GHz (Cortex A7) | http://askubuntu.com/q/31296714:30
awesergiusens, it failed for me this morning... although perhaps it was just the fact that mako was taking a super long time to boot?14:31
aweogra_, looks like we may have a problem on mako...14:31
aweno desktop, but system is up14:31
aweand yes dear ogra_, the devices are there if my USB cable isn't plugged in...14:32
ogra_awe, ok14:32
sergiusenslol14:33
UnderSampledwhat does roomservice do?14:36
Saviqogra_, 'libPVROGL.so' not found on 20130626 flipped, that known?14:37
ogra_awe, so to see if 3G persists when the devices dont kick in, how about adding a stub entry for each of them to /etc/network/interfaces (with noauto, so they get ignored all over)14:38
ogra_Saviq, thats not fliped related, afauk  it has always been like that14:38
ogra_iirc rsalveti told me its harmless14:39
Saviqogra_, hmm unity8 bails out14:39
Saviq$ unity814:39
Saviq__pthread_gettid -214:39
Saviqlinkerlinker.c:1095| ERROR: Library 'libPVROGL.so' not found14:39
Saviqlinkerlinker.c:1095| ERROR: Library 'libPVROCL.so' not found14:39
SaviqCant find EGLConfig, returning null config14:39
ogra_well, there is no OpneGL on arm :)14:39
SaviqAborted14:39
ogra_so i dont see where such a lib would come from ...14:39
Saviqogra_, that's a freshly flashed maguro, ubuntu-touch-session didn't start...14:40
* Saviq tries on manta14:40
ogra_i think your error is the next line14:40
Saviqogra_, yeah, most probably14:40
aweogra_, let's discuss at the standup14:40
ogra_awe, well, would be a quick test14:40
* snwh is away: Away14:41
aweogra_, yes... but I'm not sure if you also saw that the shell fails to start on my mako as well???14:41
* snwh is back (gone 00:00:13)14:41
rsalvetiSaviq: yeah, don't think libPVROGL is the cause here14:41
aweogra_, I will try the test, but I have something else I need to finish before the standup14:41
ogra_awe, can we focus on one issue ?14:41
ogra_just reboot14:41
aweogra_, sure we can focus on one... I'm just informing you that there are other problems14:42
ogra_yes, i noticed14:42
aweok14:42
ogra_Saviq, do you have a black screen or do you see the google logo ?14:44
Saviqogra_, google14:44
ogra_hmm, let me sync and test myself14:45
Saviqogra_, manta seems to just reboot all the time (like WinXP!)14:45
ogra_there were no changes that could have broken anything since yesterdays image14:45
rsalvetiyeah14:46
Saviqogra_, last one I used was 062314:46
rsalveti25 is working fine here14:46
rsalvetilet me also flash 2614:46
ogra_well, if it reboots constantly it is likely not the ubuntu bootimg you use14:46
ogra_since that stops into an adb session in the initramfs if something fails there14:47
UnderSampledwhat's the plan for navigation?14:48
ogra_rsalveti, oh, i lied ... there were kernel uploads ... they could indeed have broken something14:48
rsalvetiogra_: hm14:48
UnderSampledIt would be awesome if there was a polished openstreetmap based navigator14:49
aweogra_, is this what you meant by noauto?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5801720/15:01
rsalvetiogra_: yeah, no shell with latest15:01
ogra_awe, no there is usually a "auto <ifacename>" ... above the inet definition15:02
awesure, but the manpage says nothing about "noauto"15:02
apwogra_, how urgent is this LXC thing, ie does it need uploading15:02
awewhich is why I thought "manual" was the right thing15:02
rsalvetiogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801738/15:02
rsalvetiapw: ^15:03
ogra_rsalveti, i blame apparmor then15:03
rsalvetiseems latest kernel upload for mako broke it somehow15:03
ogra_apw, which LXC thing ?15:03
rsalvetiops, maguro15:03
rsalvetilet me flash mako15:03
apwrsalveti, 10s is very short for that timeout15:03
apwrsalveti, and am i right in reading it resolving itself ?15:04
apwrsalveti, ie that there is only one whine for each firmware and so by 20s they are loaded ?15:04
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rsalvetiseems to be resolving itself, but still no shell15:05
* ogra_ still waits for the sync to finish ... 15:06
ogra_i guess i'll have to wait until after the call15:06
Saviqogra_, rsalveti 0625 works fine on maguro15:07
rsalvetiyeah, that was before the kernel update15:07
ogra_Saviq, right, and only the kernel changed it seems15:07
ogra_pretty easy to identify the package that broke it (not that it helps the cause much :P )15:08
ogra_apw, i think "iface rmnet_usb? inet" is enough (might be wrong though)15:09
ogra_err15:10
ogra_awe, ^^^15:10
aweogra_, I'll try the 'manual' keyword like I posted above15:10
ogra_ok15:10
ogra_:)15:10
rsalvetiogra_: apw: mako is also busted15:13
* ogra_ thought so, they got the same patches 15:13
ogra_(maguro had one more but a harmless one)15:13
rsalveti[   26.258324] init: powerd main process (484) killed by SEGV signal15:13
rsalvetiseems apparmor might be causing all these issues15:13
ogra_yeah15:14
rsalvetiprobably not a crash in the kernel itself15:14
apwogra_, which patches, the apparmor ones ?15:14
rsalvetibut it might be blocking stuff around15:14
apwogra_, they _all_ got those15:14
ogra_apw, they were the same across all arches15:14
ogra_apw, maguro got the ureadahread stuff additionally15:14
apwogra_, they were equivalent indeed, not identicle, but all 'tested' by security15:14
ogra_but as i said, pretty harmless15:14
jdstrandogra_: I'm not sure the quotes were warrnted there :)15:15
apwjdstrand, :)15:15
jdstrandcan someone recap the problem and why people think it is apparmor for jjohansen?15:15
apwjdstrand, frankly it seemed you guys did a pretty thorough job on the testing side, more than is typically done15:15
ogra_jdstrand, thats the only patchset all kernels got, and all arches start failing at the same time15:16
ogra_jdstrand, also there were no other boot related changes15:16
jjohansenogra_: oh that isn't good :(15:16
jdstrandogra_: can you recap the issue for jjohansen?15:16
apwogra_, do we have apparmor userspace in these images and could that be related15:16
jjohansenit shouldn't15:16
dobeyis lp:unity/8.0 supposed to rend itself unusable once one tries to open the dash with the sliding from the right edge?15:16
ogra_apw, we have the sysvinit script and all it calls15:17
apwogra_, i will also say that i tested mako and manta on the device in a slightly older image15:17
apwogra_, ie those kernels cross built, before they were uploaded15:17
ogra_the images are built with --no-install-recommends ... is there anything apparmor recommends that could break that heavily ?15:17
rtg_I booted grouper and maguro15:17
dobeyor should i not bother asking in here and just bug #ubuntu-unity?15:17
rsalvetiogra_: apw: jjohansen: there's no process under phablet user name15:17
apwogra_, so they do boot in some sense, though with older non-flipped images15:17
ogra_apw, right, flipped can behave totally different15:18
jdstrandif someone could let jjohansen know what is failing, I'm quite sure he could help triage this (he just joined the channel)15:18
apwi didn't see any apparmor issues there, but not tried a flippy with them, so kernel yes, but a side effect of flipping as well i would conjecture15:18
ogra_apw, well, yesterdays image works fine15:18
ogra_we run flipped since a while already15:19
jjohansenright, I know we have been testing flipped for a while15:19
ogra_(not by default, but it has many regular testers)15:19
apwogra_, but my image was non-flipped i tested, and the kernel subbed in there worked ok15:19
apwso my comment is more it must be related to a feature in the kernel only triggered in flipped mode15:19
ogra_apw, right, that doesnt help much, the plan was actually to default to flipped today :)15:20
jjohansenso there could be a bug or conflict that didn't show up in the testing that was done15:20
apwogra_, the DEVPTS thing i have pushed to grouper, but i won't upload in case this requires an apparmor fix or whatever15:20
jjohansenthe easiest first test would be to revert the apparmor patch15:20
ogra_apw, yeah15:20
apwjjohansen, well that is just the previous kernel15:20
apwogra_, i assume if you hand instlal the previous kernel in the image it works15:21
apwogra_, it would be a good test if not so tested15:21
jjohansenapw: okay, I wasn't sure if we had any other commits in the newest kernel15:21
ogra_jjohansen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801738/ thats what rsalveti captured15:21
apwjjohansen, on three of the four kernels just that single commit15:21
ogra_apw, will, do, still in a call here, after that i can fiddle15:21
apwogra_, np15:21
apwjjohansen, that rsalveti trace looks like firmware loads timeing out, which i can see would break the device15:22
apwjjohansen, do we get involved in those in apparmor15:22
kenvandineshould i be worried that after flashing my flipped mako today boot gets stuck  on "Google" ?15:22
kenvandinefor like 10 minutes15:22
ogra_kenvandine, you can either be worried or read the backlog15:23
apwkenvandine, that sounds like great behaviour to me15:23
kenvandineah15:23
kenvandineyou guys already know about this :)15:23
ogra_:)15:23
ogra_kenvandine, only a few mins ahead of you though15:23
jjohansenapw: yes and no. Not at the kernel layer of the firmware loading, but possibly when userspace tries to access the firmware15:24
ogra_jjohansen, happens all the time inside the android container15:24
apwjjohansen, would i expect aa to whine in dmesg when it does something like that, or is that something we need to ask for15:24
apwto ask aa to log additionally in dmesg15:24
* apw muses we let our aa expert leave the team :)15:25
jjohansenapw: if something is confined it will whine, if not it should bail out early and do nothing15:25
jdstrandso, to be crystal clear. there was 1 change made to the kernel, and that was the apparmor pull?15:26
jjohansenduring early boot we should be unconfined, and only short circuiting15:26
jdstrandcould this have something to do with the lxc containers for android?15:27
ogra_very likely15:27
jjohansenhrmm so its possible that apparmor could cause hung task, if it oops in a spinlock15:28
apwjjohansen, i suspect it is stopping the loader task, and trapping the thing waiting for the firmware,15:28
ogra_jdstrand, 90% of the hardware handling (userspace binary blobs and firmware loading etc) is done inside the container to bring up the HW15:28
jdstrandjjohansen: if I aa-status on yesterday's image (ie, pre-pull) I see profiles for lxc15:28
jjohansenthe other place I could think of it causing boot to fail, is if its confined and failing domain transitions, but we shouldn't be confined in the phablet images15:28
apwogra_, can you confirm that the firmwares loading there are loading from within the lxc-container containing the android stuff ?15:29
ogra_apw, yes, all firmware handling on the ubuntu side should be off15:29
apwjjohansen, ^^ ok all of these loads are indeed in the container15:29
ogra_we actually divert the udev rule for it15:29
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jjohansendo we have an easy way to specify a kernel parameter on the phablet image?15:30
jdstrandjjohansen: full aa-status output from yeterday's grouper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801801/15:30
ogra_jjohansen, from a running image its easy, from the outside its a bit tricky15:30
jjohansenogra_: right, how tricky?15:31
jjohansenwe can disable apparmor with apparmor=0 and make sure its the cause of the problem15:31
ogra_jjohansen, there are a few ways, i guess the easiest is to take the bootimg from cdimage and modify the commandline and then flash it with fastboot15:32
jjohanseninstead of installing the old kernel15:32
jjohansenfun15:32
ogra_ok, i'll try that as soon as i'm back near my phone15:32
jjohansenif it is apparmor I am guessing an interaction with lxc15:33
apwjjohansen, sounds likely15:33
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jjohansenin which case lets revert the apparmor commit and I'll look into why its interacting with lxc15:34
jjohansenI haven't tested with the flip yet15:34
m0sso, am i got right - to take a first look to the ub.touch on my mako - it makes sense for me to install yesterday build?15:39
rsalvetilet me try the apparmor=0 thing15:47
* ogra_ is flashing ... 15:48
ogra_jjohansen, so apparmor=0 fixes it for me15:53
ogra_rsalveti, ^^^15:53
ogra_on maguro15:53
rtg_apw, ^^15:53
rsalveticool, flashing mako15:54
jjohansenogra_: okay, I'll start digging15:55
pmcgowan_ogra_, was reading, fwiw I had 0625 hang at the google logo on a mako yesterday15:58
ogra_pmcgowan_, intresting, did you try logging in with adb and capture logs ?15:59
pmcgowan_could not get in15:59
ogra_hmm, that shouldnt happen15:59
pmcgowan_I had done an adb reboot, and it never made it up15:59
ogra_adbd is always running ... we even start it in the initrd on errors15:59
pmcgowan_then used power button to recover15:59
ogra_oh15:59
ogra_better use "adb shell reboot" i think there are still issues with adb reboot16:00
rsalvetiogra_: jjohansen: yup, same for mako, can boot fine after adding apparmor=016:00
pmcgowan_ogra_, ok good16:00
jjohansenalright, do you want to back out the apparmor patch while I investigate16:00
rsalvetiogra_: how hard would it be to have that added to our kernel cmdline when building the image?16:01
ogra_well, depends if you think it is worth it :) turnaround time for a kernel upload until we have an image ready is about 6h16:01
rsalvetiat least until this is solved16:01
ogra_rsalveti, four minor changes in initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch16:01
jjohansenlets assume it will take at least a day to turn around a fix16:01
ogra_jjohansen, leave it in, i'll fix the cmdlines16:02
rsalvetiogra_: might be easier than disabling it in the kernel16:02
ogra_yeah16:02
jjohansenokay, thats fine as long as its not breaking the world16:02
rsalvetiawe: approved https://code.launchpad.net/~awe/phablet-extras/ofono-socket-exit/+merge/17135516:03
rsalvetionce merged, please update the other one with trunk again16:03
rsalvetijust to make sure16:03
ogra_fix uploaded16:05
rsalvetilet me also publish the "fixed" bootimgs somewhere16:09
rsalvetistill uploading: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/20130626/16:10
awersalveti, ack, ack16:10
rsalvetianyone having issues with 20130626, please flash the bootimg from http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/20130626/ (adb reboot bootloader; fastboot flash boot <boot.img>; fastboot reboot;)16:10
* ogra_ goes to mow the lawn while the package builds and pops through its differnt stages of propagation 16:11
plarswill give it a try rsalveti, thanks16:14
SoulCastHey, Do you guys think there will be a dedicated settings & messaging app for Ubuntu touch or do you think it'll all be done through the phone app / notifications16:14
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rsalvetiall uploaded16:18
rsalvetitime for some food16:18
plarsrsalveti: seems to work here on mako at least, thanks16:18
iBelieveI'm not familiar with merge requests - now that my merge request (https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/improved-ui/+merge/171569) has been approved, do I need to do anything to get it merged?16:19
rsalvetiplars: awesome16:20
Asad2005I have downloaded the stock rom of my galaxy note N7000 and extracted the tar file, there is cache,factoryfs, hidden and zimage image files in addition to modem.bin how can i flash these using fastboot?16:28
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ogra_cjwatson, thanks so much for the fakechroot hint, the package builds fine now16:39
cjwatsonOh good16:41
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iBelieveI'm not familiar with merge requests - now that my merge request (https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/improved-ui/+merge/171569) has been approved, do I need to do anything to get it merged?16:52
ogra_no, that should happen automatically16:52
apwogra_, to confirm you have worked round the aa issue via the kernel command line for now16:53
ogra_apw, right, no kernel uploads needed16:53
ogra_a soon as the package with the fix is in the archive i'll trigger new images and we should be fine again16:54
plarsogra_: in the flipped images, do we write out a buildstamp anywhere so that we can see which build we're using from within the image, and if not, how hard would it be to add that?17:03
ogra_plars, no, but i added the creation of /var/log/installer/media-info today ... should be in the next build17:03
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ogra_so you can handle it like on desktop/server images now17:04
plarsogra_: perfect, thanks!17:04
ogra_oh, wait, probably not in the next one but once IS has processed the related RT it will17:05
plarsok17:05
ogra_the next one will have all entries but the build id in /var/log/installer/media-info :P17:05
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jdstrandbzoltan1: hey-- in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-s-appisolation-sdk there is this work item: [bzoltan] adjust SDK to use application confinements paths (see above): TODO18:01
jdstrandbzoltan1: a) I will be filing bugs for these paths. where should I file the bugs?18:02
jdstrandbzoltan1: b) is that work item properly assigned?18:02
ajbiz11Alright, as much as I would hope it's a secure file, does anyone know where the Usernames for the LOCKSCREEN are stored, not the system users...18:21
bzoltan1jpdsrand: The best place is this -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins18:26
kenvandinefginther, can you do whatever jenkins magic is needed to add CI and autolanding for gsettings-qt ?18:44
kenvandinefginther, i proposed a branch adding it to daily release https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/cupstream2distro-config/gsettings-qt/+merge/17163418:44
fgintherkenvandine, is it ready to release into distro?18:45
kenvandineyeah18:45
kenvandinetests added and all18:45
kenvandinealready in saucy18:45
kenvandineand the settings panels are going to start using it, so i want to make sure it's built in the same stack18:46
mterryHas anyone installed a flipped touch image recently?  The first bootup is taking *forever*18:46
kenvandinemterry, broken18:47
mterry(I installed with phablet-flash --flipped)18:47
mterrykenvandine, :(18:47
fgintherkenvandine, it's approved. I'll ping you again when it's deployed18:47
kenvandinefginther, thanks!18:48
kenvandinefginther, also... libpam-freerdp looks like the CI isn't configure properly18:48
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/libpam-freerdp/packaging/+merge/17162618:48
kenvandinemaybe it's using the old recipes?18:48
fgintherkenvandine, I'll take a look18:48
kenvandinefginther, thanks!18:48
fgintherkenvandine, indeed libpam-freerdp is an old-style project and not in any stack cfg18:51
fgintherkenvandine, should it be in a stack file?18:52
kenvandineyes18:52
kenvandinei am going to add it18:52
kenvandinebut wanted to get this branch landed first18:52
fgintherkenvandine, ok, let me tweak the job first and see if it lands18:54
kenvandinefginther, i appreciate it18:54
fgintherkenvandine, should libpam-freerdb still be building for quantal?18:56
kenvandineno idea18:56
kenvandinei doubt it :)18:56
kenvandinelets say saucy18:56
fgintheris it going it heas18:56
fgintheris it going it head18:56
fginthersaucy it is then18:56
kenvandinehead yes18:57
ajbiz11does anyone think that the Saucy images from anywehere in the last 10 or so days added anything that would break disply?19:02
ajbiz11*display19:02
ajbiz11I have a logcat if anyone wants to take a peek19:02
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jer_Hi guys - just trying to insall ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus, got an error message while running  phablet-flash -b19:21
jer_anyone able to help?19:22
jer_message was "Error while executing fastboot flash system /home/jeremy/Downloads/phablet-flash/saucy-25/saucy-preinstalled-system-armel+maguro.img Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an error"19:22
jer_i ran fastboot flash system, which was successful, then went into recovery mode and now have a Cyanogen mod loading animation...19:23
jer_ah .. running adb root i  get "adbd cannot run as root in production builds"19:24
fgintherkenvandine, libpam-freerdp/packaging has merged19:25
kenvandinefginther, thanks!19:25
kenvandinei'll create a new stack for it soon19:25
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stgraberrsalveti: looks like I have mntns attach working, now to try to get pidns attach working too (that one is a bit more difficult...)19:50
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rsalvetistgraber: awesome19:50
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void_hello everyone20:36
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balloonsnik90, you about?21:00
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jer_I have figgered it out21:20
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stgraberrsalveti: it works! I've got a working kernel for mako21:27
rsalvetistgraber: awesome21:27
rsalvetigetting it for manta should be easy then, at least same kernel version21:27
rsalvetilet me know if you need help backporting to other devices21:30
rsalvetiI can give it a try with maguro and manta21:30
stgraberrsalveti: https://github.com/stgraber/linux/commits/mako-lxc21:34
stgraberhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5802901/ for the full diff, not nearly as small as I was hoping21:35
rsalvetistgraber: yeah, might need a bit of work to port it to 3.0 and 3.121:40
rsalvetistgraber: then how to use it with our container? any change needed in userspace?21:40
iBelieveFor my merge request (https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/improved-ui/+merge/171569), it is marked as Approved, but the status still Needs Review and it isn't merged. What needs to get done for it to be merged? I'm not very familar with merge requests.21:40
stgraberrsalveti: I have it ported to manta, will test build now. maguro is a whole other story though, that kernel is really old...21:41
stgraberrsalveti: userspace is fine, just do: lxc-attach --clear-env -n android /system/xbin/env PATH=/system/bin:/system/xbin sh21:42
rsalvetistgraber: yeah21:42
stgraberand you get a nice shell in the container21:42
rsalvetiawesome21:42
stgraberrsalveti: hmm, manta appears to need gcc-4.6 which I don't quite have around, anyway, the branch is on my github (manta-lxc), so you should be able to just build that21:45
stgraberrsalveti: if that works for you and you want those into our official kernels, we'll have to chat with the kernel team and see how they feel about that delta (and have it properly reviewed, I'm not a kernel developer...)21:46
rsalvetistgraber: thanks, will give it a try21:46
rsalvetistgraber: is this just a backport?21:46
rsalvetiif so, it might be easier at least21:46
stgraberrsalveti: it's a chery-pick from Eric's branches which landed in the upstream kernel, but because of all the changes caused by the userns, I couldn't just cherry-pick from upstream without bringing half of 3.8 along with it. So it's supposed to be very close to what's upstream but in a slightly older version, without userns and with some bits updated to fit the old 3.4 kernel.21:48
rsalvetiright, so it should be fine to get them applied for our 3.4 based kernels at least21:49
rsalvetiI'd guess a lot of more work would be needed for maguro and grouper21:49
stgraberyep, we'd likely have to backport a whole lot more commits to get that on 3.0/3.1 and change the patches quite a bit. I didn't remember it but 3.4 actually has a part of the initial set of userns patches which made integration pidns and mntns much easier than it'd have been otherwise.21:51
stgraber3.0/3.1 however do not, so those patches will need some major rework or we'll need to backport a whole bunch of userns changes to make those happy21:52
rsalvetiyeah21:53
nik90balloons: I am here now.21:55
balloonsnik90, I wanted to get the outstanding merges in for the ap tests :-)21:57
balloonshttps://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-clock-app/simplify_autopilot_tests/+merge/17009621:57
nik90balloons: I will ask omer to update that branch since a lot has changed since he proposed it (ui changes)21:58
balloonsnik90, ohh I'm sure it has. I just wanted to know where it was left out,etc21:58
balloonsisn't it superseded now by your branch?21:59
nik90balloons: yes. I recently chnaged the stopwatch UI and also managed to update my tests to work with them.21:59
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nik90I however couldn't get the lap stopwatch test to work since I am unable to access the ListModel properly with autopilot22:00
nik90balloons: Would you like me to review the omer's MP and comment on what needs to be changed before it can be merged?22:03
rsalvetiogra_: seems we can't customize manta's kernel cmdline arguments22:14
rsalvetiit just ignores it22:14
iBelieveFor my merge request (https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/improved-ui/+merge/171569), it is marked as Approved, but the status still Needs Review and it isn't merged. What needs to get done for it to be merged? I'm not very familar with merge requests.22:15
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nik90Kaleo: Is your https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/simple_theming/+merge/171645 provide support for adding background gradients?22:22
ogra_rsalveti, ah, crap22:38
rsalvetiso we need to speed up the fix, or disable it in the kernel itself22:38
ogra_well, i think rtg is gone now22:39
ogra_so i doubt it will happen tonight ... i'll try to catch apw tomorrow first thing22:40
ogra_at least its only one kernel22:40
rsalvetistgraber: cool, also working fine with manta22:41
rsalvetistgraber: so I'd suggest to send the patches for both mako and manta, and see if we can get those in22:41
rsalvetiogra_: right22:41
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veebersHi all, I'm using an aliased command doing something like this to ssh into the Nexus 4: adb forward tcp:2222 tcp:22; ssh . . . But I'm constantly getting 'Connection to localhost closed.' out of the blue.  Is there something I can do to lessen/fix this?23:06

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