[00:00] <skellat> Okay folks, note about data received from FirstEnergy
[00:01] <skellat> There are roughly 60,000 customers within Northeast Ohio without electricity
[00:01] <skellat> I'm technically "On The Run" at a fast-food joint somewhere outside the affected area and am using their WiFi
[00:01] <skellat> Power has been out at home for me for 3+ hours
[00:02] <skellat> Stay strong, keep an eye on ##weather-us-oh and if you have one keep a NOAA Weather Radio or compatible receiver turned **ON**
[00:02] <paultag>    ♥
[00:02] <paultag> erm
[00:03] <paultag>    ♥
[00:03] <skellat> paultag: We had a wicked line of storms come through
[00:03] <paultag> that sucks :(
[00:03] <skellat> paultag: FirstEnergy was kinda emphatic that, no, it was out of the question to even ask for an ETA for power restoration at this point
[00:04] <skellat> I'm ticked because, now that I'm somewhere with WiFi, the number of people who actually bothered to report the outage locally is pretty low
[00:04] <skellat> So Ashtabula is gonna get triaged as a low priority possibly
[00:05] <paultag> :(
[00:05] <skellat> I gotta go, though, as I gotta return home to start filling oil lamps for the evening
[00:05] <skellat> Well, at least I'm prepared for a scenario like this
[00:05] <Unit193> Dang, I didn't get any storms. :(
[00:06] <skellat> Unit193: Enjoy it
[00:06]  * skellat says goodnight and resumes being "On The Run"
[00:06] <Unit193> I would if I had one...
[00:28] <Unit193> paultag: Free in two days?  I should have an update if he doesn't release another bugfix. :P
[00:29] <paultag> Unit193: yep
[00:32] <Unit193> Sweet.
[00:36] <paultag> :)
[03:34] <skellat> .weather 44004
[03:34] <jenni> Overcast ☁, 66.2°F (19°C), 29.95in (1011mb), Light Thundery Rain, Mist, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KYNG, 02:51Z
[03:34] <skellat> .weather KERI
[03:34] <jenni> Clear ☼, 20°C, 1014mb, Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - EETN 03:20Z
[03:34] <yano> .wiki EETN
[03:34] <jenni> "Tallinn Airport (Estonian: Lennart Meri Tallinna lennujaam) (IATA: TLL, ICAO: EETN) or Lennart Meri Tallinn Airport, formerly Ülemiste Airport, is the largest airport in Estonia and home base of the national airline Estonian Air." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EETN
[03:35] <yano> .wiki KERI
[03:35] <jenni> "KERI (1410 AM 'Faith & Family 1410 AM') is a radio station broadcasting a Christian radio format." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERI
[03:35] <skellat> KERI is the ICAO code for the closest airport to me which is in Erie, PA
[03:36] <skellat> KCLE would be the code for Hopkins in Cleveland
[03:36] <Unit193> Temp: 79 F (26 C) ~ Clear ~ Heat index: NA ~ Humidity: 74% ~ Alert: Severe Thunderstorm Watch
[03:37] <skellat> This is the metar output for Erie International Airport just over the line in PA from me: KERI 260251Z 22004KT 10SM CLR 21/18 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP114 T02110183 58003
[03:38] <skellat> metar -d KERI decodes it if you have the package installed
[03:38] <yano> weird, jenni is converting KERI to EETN
[03:38] <skellat> .weather 16501
[03:38] <jenni> Overcast ☁, 66.2°F (19°C), 29.95in (1011mb), Light Thundery Rain, Mist, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KYNG, 02:51Z
[03:39] <skellat> .weather 44135
[03:39] <jenni> Overcast ☁, 69.8°F (21°C), 29.92in (1010mb), Light Thundery Rain, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KCLE, 03:27Z
[03:40] <skellat> Yeah, the KYNG code says it is a weather report coming out of Youngstown-Warren Regional which is totally the wrong way away from Ashtabula or Erie
[03:41] <yano> weird
[03:41] <skellat> The ICAO code for Ashtabula County Airport is KHZY
[05:00] <Unit193> This looks bigger....
[14:02] <thafreak> .weather 44256
[14:02] <jenni> Overcast ☁, 73.4°F (23°C), 29.91in (1010mb), Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - KCLE 13:51Z
[14:02] <thafreak> So, I'm back...for now
[14:18] <Unit193> thafreak: Welcome back.
[15:25] <skellat> Good morning
[15:25] <skellat> .weather 44004
[15:25] <jenni> Overcast ☁, 69.8°F (21°C), 29.91in (1010mb), Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KYNG 14:51Z
[15:25] <Unit193> I wouldn't call it "good", but greetings.
[15:27] <skellat> Unit193: Why isn't it good out your way?
[15:27] <yano> DOMA is dead
[15:28] <skellat> And?
[15:30] <skellat> Oh
[15:30] <yano> so is prop 8
[15:32] <skellat> Well
[15:32] <skellat> Let me put it this way
[15:32]  * skellat notes for record that in any given year for up to six possible days per year he is a Precinct Election Official designated as a Republican
[15:33] <yano> and the other 359 days?
[15:33] <yano> :-p
[15:34] <skellat> yano: I just don't get to wear the poll judge hat with power to order arrests and authority to conduct elections
[15:34] <skellat> Life rolls on
[15:35] <skellat> We live in extremely interesting days.  As Robert Heinlein would have put it, these are The Crazy Years.
[15:35] <skellat> Enduring through the strange things as well as the economic dislocations is going to require quite a bit of strength regardless of where your political views take you.
[15:36] <skellat> In the end, though, things will get better.
[15:39] <skellat> Frankly watching the federal government mess around with issues of tertiary importance right now when there are issues of greater importance like getting the economy righted bothers me greatly.
[15:40] <skellat> And to discuss the matter further, add the XMPP ID of skellat@fastmail.net and we can talk OTR
[15:50] <skellat> So, what's happening technologically around our great state?  How are people recovering from the storm?
[15:52] <yano> i don't do XMPP, but i have been meaning to set that up
[16:26] <Unit193> I have it, and torchat. :P
[16:26] <Unit193> There's nothing to recover from, storm wise.
[16:35] <yano> i've played around with crypto.cat
[16:39] <Unit193> Bah, Xorg is being crappy...
[17:58] <thafreak> Unit193: why don't you run Mir then? :-P
[17:59] <Unit193> Hah, what so I can make it 100% unusable?
[18:00] <thafreak> but lxde and xfce run on it via xmir now :)
[18:02] <Unit193> Sure, and you can keep cool in the heat by dumping ice cubes down your shirt every half out, doesn't mean it makes sense. :P
[18:03] <Unit193> (OK, that one makes more sense then shipping a flavor using XMir.)
[18:03]  * Unit193 looks at the channel name.
[18:03]  * paultag giggles
[18:03] <Unit193> I mean, all hail Mir!
[18:03] <paultag> oh you guys
[18:04] <thafreak> I'm burning a centos 6.4 iso right now...
[18:04]  * thafreak looks at channel name...
[18:04]  * Unit193 wouldn't use Cent. :P
[18:05] <thafreak> why not? cause you hate yum?
[18:05] <paultag> use moar Debian
[18:05] <thafreak> i'm giving centos 6.4 a try, cause it still uses a 2.6.32 kernel
[18:05]  * thafreak is looking for alternatives to proxmox ve
[18:05] <Unit193> Not fond of yum, even with EPEL it's quite lacking, etc.  Debian is me backup in case everything breaks, and if that's too stale I may try Arch.  (I keep wanting to try that anyway.)
[18:06] <paultag> (Debian testing is a godsend)
[18:06] <Unit193> Can be quite stale, good on my headless though!
[18:06] <Unit193> (Debian doesn't care as much about Xfce as it does Gnome. :/ )
[18:06] <thafreak> well, proxmox ve is wheezy based...but i dunno
[18:07] <paultag> Testing rarely gets stale, Unit193
[18:07] <paultag> at least, not with the big stuff.
[18:07] <paultag> perhaps some corners get dusty, but a chance for you to step in as a maintainer!
[18:07] <paultag> it's 10 days behind unstable, which is often mostly in-sync with upstream
[18:08] <Unit193> Thing I keep looking at right now: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icecast2.html :/
[18:08] <jenni> [ Debian Package Tracking System -	icecast2 ] - http://j.mp/18gtjED
[18:08] <paultag> aren't there legal issues with that or something
[18:09] <paultag> Oh no, just RC bugs
[18:09] <Unit193> Yep, translations, or something like that.
[18:09] <paultag> you should poke it
[18:09] <paultag> yell at the maintainers
[18:10] <Unit193> http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gcalcli.html is also old, but already updated locally a while ago. :P  (Wouldn't want to poke, as they may go too new and pickup the new API you need to register an API with Google to use.)
[18:10] <jenni> [ Debian Package Tracking System -	gcalcli ] - http://j.mp/18gtuj5
[18:11] <Unit193> paultag: I did actually email the one interested in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=648256 with some work on the package to at least bring it up to current version and fix some issues, haven't heard back yet.
[18:11] <jenni> [ #648256 - ITP: cherokee -- Very fast, flexible and easy to configure web server - Debian Bug report logs ] - http://j.mp/18gtBLB
[18:35] <thafreak> cherokee...why is everyone all about cherokee?
[18:36] <thafreak> I was more confused by cherokee's web based config system than nginx's config file syntax...
[18:39] <Unit193> Everyone?  Pretty sure it's just me...
[21:07] <skellat> Oh, heck no: "Unit193: [14:03:46] I mean, all hail Mir!"
[21:10] <skellat> Unit193: We need to talk to micahg and mrpouit about getting a test re-build done with XMir instead of X just to see how it runs
[21:13]  * paultag sighs
[21:13] <paultag> I ♥ NIH
[21:18] <skellat> I don't mind where it is invented
[21:18] <skellat> I want it to work
[21:18] <paultag> that's not what NIH is, skellat
[21:18] <skellat> Oh
[21:18] <paultag> NIH is where you rewrite something because it wasn't invented internally
[21:18] <skellat> National Institutes of Health, not Not Invented Here?
[21:19] <paultag> like say, Mir
[21:19] <paultag> or Unity
[21:19] <paultag> or Upstart
[21:19] <paultag> or LightDM
[21:19] <skellat> Yeah
[21:20] <skellat> I will say weston is nice on the RPi
[21:20] <paultag> Wayland is a nice idea
[21:20] <paultag> Weston could use love
[21:21] <skellat> *buntu support for the BeagleBoard is nearly gone which is why mine is on Testing now
[21:21] <paultag> with imput devices, in particular
[21:21] <paultag> I wanted to write my own compositor called "Wellesley", my hometown
[21:21] <paultag> which is between Wayland and Weston
[21:21] <paultag> physically
[21:22] <skellat> Nice
[21:22] <skellat> I'd hesitate to see a compositor named Cleveland
[21:22] <skellat> Lots of flames
[21:22]  * paultag giggles
[21:22] <skellat> City council members getting picked up on DUIs after 2 beers & some Listerine
[21:22] <skellat> 167 bullets fired at fleeing suspects
[21:23] <skellat> It wouldn't be a happy compositor
[21:23] <paultag> bwahaha wut
[21:23]  * paultag is scraping data on the Cleveland city council as we speak
[21:23] <paultag> literally in the other window
[21:23] <paultag> (DUI, I missed that)
[21:23] <skellat> Councilman Reed of Ward 2
[21:23] <paultag> bwahahahaha
[21:23] <skellat> Wasn't his first DUI either
[21:23] <paultag> did he get his party plates?
[21:24] <skellat> Nope, no yellow & red plates for him yet
[21:24] <paultag> http://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/ward-2.aspx
[21:24] <jenni> [ Cleveland City Council - Cleveland City Council - Zack Reed, Ward 2 ] - http://j.mp/12l3QWi
[21:24] <skellat> Those still are discretionary for the sentencing judge
[21:24] <paultag> ah, shucks.
[21:24] <skellat> They get handed out around here quite a bit, though
[21:24] <paultag> aye
[21:24] <paultag> they sure do
[21:24] <paultag> http://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/ward-2.aspx#
[21:24] <jenni> [ Cleveland City Council - Cleveland City Council - Zack Reed, Ward 2 ] - http://j.mp/12l3QWi
[21:24] <paultag> Shucks, nothing
[21:24] <paultag> Oh damn you Thunder::Tech
[21:25] <paultag> JS without changing the URL slug. Nice.
[21:25] <paultag> so 2003
[21:25] <paultag> someone kick them
[21:25] <skellat> Meh, try my township's website: http://ashtabulatownship.com/
[21:25] <jenni> [ Ashtabula Township, Ashtabula, Ohio ] - http://j.mp/12l48wq
[21:26] <paultag> that's not so bad
[21:26] <paultag> I've seen worse
[21:26] <skellat> Oh, like this?  SEE: http://www.twpfire.com/
[21:26] <jenni> [ Ashtabula Township Fire Department ] - http://j.mp/12l4mDH
[21:27] <paultag> still not that bad
[21:27] <paultag> this was at least designed
[21:27] <yano> lol
[21:27] <skellat> The Fire Department's site is remarkably full of placeholders
[21:27] <yano> "Completely editable and will grow vertically to fit the text placed in it, but will not grow horizontally, it will just continue to wrap."
[21:27] <paultag> skellat: try this on for size
[21:28]  * skellat wonders where the light switch is for the dressing room
[21:30] <paultag> skellat: see if you can get the sponsors for HB685 on http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/ACASLoginMac.asp
[21:30] <paultag> Welcome to Hell
[21:30] <jenni> [ Alabama Legislative Information System Online ] - http://j.mp/12l5FCo
[21:31] <paultag> (from the 2013 session)
[21:31] <skellat> I got bupkis
[21:31] <paultag> It's in 2013 not the insane default of 2014 which hasn't started yet
[21:31] <paultag> (just btw)
[21:32] <skellat> Which you can't set
[21:33] <skellat> Nice
[21:33] <skellat> That takes mad skillz to design dude
[21:33] <skellat> :-\
[21:33] <paultag> so many iframes
[21:33] <paultag> skellat: so you didn't get very far
[21:33] <paultag> but you have to click in an *insane* order
[21:33] <paultag> to ungrey out the button to click to get sponsors
[21:34] <paultag> that site is one of the worst in the USA
[21:34] <paultag> (btw; http://openstates.org/al/bills/2013rs/HB685/  :D )
[21:34] <jenni> [ HB 685 - Alabama 2013 Regular Session - Open States ] - http://j.mp/12qywRy
[21:45] <skellat> Yipe
[21:45] <Unit193> skellat: 1. Wrong channel.  2. Don't you think there's enough delay now without randomly saying the devs should also do $random?
[21:45] <Unit193> Upstart and LightDM aren't actually too bad.
[21:46] <skellat> Unit193: 1.  Understood.  2.  Yeah, I know.
[21:57] <Unit193> paultag: You haz mail. :P
[22:17] <Unit193> jrgifford: You made it!
[22:17] <jrgifford> about freakin' time.
[22:17] <jrgifford> been away from the laptop, can't type my freenode password reliably on my phone.
[22:18] <Unit193> Don't want to send it to me in channel? :(
[22:18] <jrgifford> lol
[22:18] <jrgifford> not with jandrusk around, he's a security guy.
[22:18] <jrgifford> ;)
[22:19] <Unit193> How about ^ ?   He's hiiiiding.