[00:00] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, doubt has nothing to do with wine
[00:00] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, are you on 12.10?
[00:00] <Ari-Yang> or 12.04?
[00:00] <killmaker> neither 13.04
[00:00] <Ari-Yang> oh
[00:00] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, well on 12.10 there's a tab called Additional Drivers in software sources
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> not sure where that is on 13.04
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> there's also
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> !ati | killmaker
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, but I rather you installing from ubuntu repos
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, what card do you have?
[00:01] <jrib> steven: probably the easiest thing for you to do is use that ppa if you are ok with the versions it provides
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, in temrinal run lspci | grep VGA
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> s/temrinal/terminal
[00:02] <killmaker> intel
[00:02] <steven> jrib: yes I think that would be the easiest way.
[00:03] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, I think it additional drivers tab should be in software sources like in 12.10
[00:03] <Ari-Yang> go to dash board and search for software sources (or system settings and search for software sources)
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> hit the 'Additional Drivers' tab and see if anything is there
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> if it's empty, then it's most likely there aren't any drivers available from the repos and you have to download the appropriate driver from the official site.
[00:09] <killmaker> i wen to gatway and found a exe driver will that work
[00:09] <Ari-Yang> killmaker, make sure it's specifically for linux/ubuntu.......
[00:09] <Ari-Yang> if I were you, I wouldn't install a driver that's a exe....
[00:10] <hadifarnoud> is ufw separate from iptables? if I have some rules in ufw and disabale it, will it go back to iptables?
[00:12] <hadifarnoud> is ufw separate from iptables? if I have some rules in ufw and disabale it, will it go back to iptables?
[00:13] <disPlay> ufw is just a gui for iptables
[00:13] <killmaker> how do i do that
[00:15] <killmaker> dose any one know why wow stop updateing in wine
[00:16] <root> hello
[00:17] <domino14> hlep
[00:17] <domino14> sudo unattended-upgrade is just hanging
[00:19] <tangled>  /join ##windows
[00:20] <Timid> lol, windows?
[00:20] <tangled> just stayin in the know :)
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> domino14, I have never seen a reference to "unattended-upgrade" on the IRC, some details will be needed as always.
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> there are wiki's on it though
[00:22] <nugroho> Indonesian
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> nugroho, #ubuntu-indonesia  did you want the channel?
[00:37] <RobbyF> !topic
[00:52] <tangled> ping
[00:52] <elisa87> Why wireless network doesn't show up/get connected in Ubuntu 13.08?
[00:52] <elisa87> *13.04
[00:53] <Peyam> same here
[00:53] <raedov> hello guys i want to install Lubuntu 13.04 but i can't , after boot from USB there is a black screen appear and stick on it for a long time i wait abut 10 minutes , nothing happen , My PC Spec : intel core I3-2100 + 10 GB RAM + 128GB SSD + intel 3000 HD any idea
[00:53] <elisa87> actually wifi connections show up but don't get connected in Ubuntu 13.04...any idea what's going wrong?
[00:54] <Peyam> raedov: do you have the currect version = 64 bits or 32?
[00:54] <raedov> yes 64 bit
[00:54] <Peyam> elisa87: I did it twice and it worked
[00:55] <elisa87> Peyam: what do you mean by you did it twice? what did you do?
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | raedov
[00:55] <Peyam> elisa87: update
[00:55] <no-n> if I encrypt my home folder, does that *only* protect me when I'm logged out?
[00:56] <elisa87> Peyam: when I update it fails due to some index files failed to download error
[00:56] <raedov> Peyam: thank you but i think intel is supported out of the box in ubuntu not like nvidia , Am I wrong ?
[00:56] <Peyam> elisa87: mine says the connection is broken. but Error? ppa error?
[00:57] <Peyam> raedov: it should be
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> raedov, TRy the nomodeset boot.
[00:57] <Peyam> raedov: wilee-nilee has a good advice
[00:57] <raedov> ok I'll try it , thank you guys
[00:57] <jrib> no-n: yeah.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> raedov, f6 at the try or install ubuntu and choose nomodeset.
[00:59] <raedov> wilee-nilee: if i use nomodeset and install lubuntu , it will save in grub ? what i mean , after finish installation i;m afraid the black screen comes again
[00:59] <sam113101> can someone explain to me why the monospace font of ubuntu is different than the monospace font of OpenSUSE?
[01:00] <Peyam> raedov: do you have a grub problem or installation problem?
[01:00] <Peyam> sam113101: hahah I never noticed that
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> raedov, No that is a per-session boot, however make sure you are on the net when instaling and tick the update in the install box, it may load the driver you need. You can use nomodeset at the grub menu if needed, save the link.
[01:01] <sam113101> seriously, there are multiple monospace fonts (as I can see) and they don't even look alike, why name them the same?
[01:02] <raedov> Peyam: yesterday i install ubuntu 13.04 with nvidia 440 gt and i use nomodeset , installed it without any problem but when i restart the black screen comes again !
[01:02] <kostkon_> sam113101: ubutnu has its own font
[01:02] <rawrr> Im on my phone. I installed windows on after linux. Boot repair isnt working(not starting up). What else can i do to fix grub
[01:02] <somsip> !fixgrub | rawrr
[01:02] <sam113101> kostkon_: why name it the same as the other monospace? and can I get it on OpenSUSE?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> raedov, The nomodeset link above tells you how to add it to grub, ou can permanently add to grub if needed as well.
[01:02] <Peyam> is it totally a black screen? doesn't it say anything else? raedov
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> most people seem to find the correct nvidia drivers
[01:03] <Peyam> raedov: I guess wilee-nilee is the right person to talk to regarding this issue
[01:03] <raedov> yes totally black screen i cant do anything , i press the whole keyboard keys , no responsive at all
[01:03] <kostkon_> sam113101: no, the font is called ubuntu font, obviously mono is one of its variants, ubuntu mono
[01:03] <usercheck_> any shell command to check cpu temperature?
[01:04] <sam113101> kostkon_: but there is a "monospace" font on ubuntu, not talking about ubuntu mono there
[01:04] <raedov> ok wilee i'll try it now
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Did you see the link?
[01:04] <somsip> !info lmsensor | usercheck_
[01:04] <raedov> yup
[01:04] <raedov> and i understand it :)
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Cool it has the live cd use and install use.
[01:04] <somsip> !info lm-sensors | usercheck_
[01:04] <kostkon_> sam113101: i think the default mono is the ubuntu mono, but i may be wrong
[01:04] <usercheck_> thx
[01:05] <sam113101> kostkon_: they are different
[01:05] <kostkon_> sam113101: oh ok then
[01:05] <sam113101> oh well, I'll ask it on askubuntu I think
[01:06] <Peyam> sam113101: what was the issue again?
[01:06] <usercheck_> somsip: is it not running on 10.04?
[01:06] <sam113101> Peyam: I want to know why the monospace font on ubuntu is different than the monospace font on OpenSUSE
[01:07] <shortstraw8> Adobe ? At work they have an adobe file that wants to flatten the document. They cannot get it figured out. The problem is that there is a stamp of approval that will not print. I can print it at my house fine but I do not have a printer size they use. Any ideas on how to make the changes stay when I save it and try and print from my windows laptop?
[01:07] <Peyam> well it should be different configurations in Appearance configurations
[01:07] <raedov> wilee last question , also yesterday when i use nomodeset the dimensions was very big at installation time , is it still like that after the installation ? do i need to setup the dimensions , i hope u understand me , English is not my native language
[01:07] <Peyam> sorry. double typed "configurations!
[01:08] <Peyam> raedov: you mean resolution?
[01:08] <raedov> yes resolution
[01:09] <somsip> usercheck_: you may well need to install it
[01:09] <somsip> !info lm-sensors 10.04
[01:09] <keith_> hi everyone
[01:09] <somsip> !info lm-sensors lucid
[01:09] <veryhappy> does someone of you know how to prevent apache2-mpm-worker to become removed when i want to install libapache2-mod-php5?
[01:09] <usercheck_> somsip:ok thx
[01:09] <Peyam> raedov: it is a graphic card issue. when you installed the right driver it will give you higher resulotion
[01:10] <raedov> aha thank you Pey7am
[01:10] <KeithM> What is the best windows manager+decorator out now?
[01:10] <KeithM> It used to be emerald I think
[01:10] <KeithM> it's been awhile
[01:10] <somsip> !best | KeithM
[01:10] <raedov> Peyam sorry
[01:10] <Peyam> raedov: np
[01:10] <breadnick> How long does it take for a package version to go from "proposed" to "release"?
[01:10] <rawrr> somsip i did it JUST FOR YOU :D it didnt work the second time i tried either.
[01:11] <Peyam> KeithM: well I running xubuntu.. it is nice
[01:11] <somsip> rawrr: what are you talking about?
[01:11] <linuxrox> rawrr: you are crazy, yo
[01:11] <rawrr> The grub thing i said i tried that already xD
[01:11] <sam113101> KeithM: what are you looking for in a WM?
[01:11] <Peyam> rawrr: what isn't working?
[01:11] <KeithM> prettyness
[01:11] <KeithM> lol
[01:11] <sam113101> and special effects?
[01:11] <usercheck_> not use 000123 but use 00122 then give push command
[01:11] <KeithM> yep.
[01:12] <sam113101> kwin is good in that regard, I find it less buggy than compiz
[01:12] <usercheck_> *000122 (repair)
[01:12] <dabber_chris> does anyone know howto get a Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) working in the newest version of unbuntu?
[01:12] <rawrr> I installed windows and now grub doesnt work. I cant do boot-repair and the section of that help page under it doesnt work either.
[01:12] <sam113101> so I'd give kwin a try if I were you
[01:13] <KeithM> interesting
[01:13] <KeithM> I will. Thanks.
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, You have the bootinfo summary link?
[01:13] <rawrr> No.how can i make one?
[01:13] <Peyam> rawrr: do  you follow the exact steps in  boot-repair?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, The bootrepair app should run from a live cd, you can't run it?
[01:14] <rawrr> peyam booyrepair wont boot on my computer. Idm
[01:14] <rawrr> Idk*
[01:14] <rawrr> I have 10.04 live disc
[01:14] <KeithM> Another question; I've built my ubuntu straight from mini with no additional packages (I installed xorg, gdm, gnome-shell, nautilus) etc with no install recommends
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, You can access it from the ubuntu live cd/usb you used to install
[01:14] <KeithM> But I'm trying to figure out why i can't put down icons on the desktop, noob question
[01:15] <Peyam> rawrr why do you have a old dist?
[01:15] <rawrr> I cannot install it under 10.04
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, Which ubuntu release did you install?
[01:15] <rawrr> I never through it away. I installed 12.04
[01:15] <linuxrox> rawrr: you should use unetbootin on your usb
[01:15] <kostkon_> KeithM: gnome shell doesnt allow icons on the desktop
[01:15] <KeithM> that makes sense
[01:15] <rawrr> Linuxrox. Tried that too
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, How did you install?
[01:16] <linuxrox> rawrr: i meant the latest ubuntu
[01:16] <rawrr> wille upgrade from 10.10. Which was installd by dvd
[01:16] <KeithM> kostkon; I really don't like unity, and I'm looking something basic
[01:16] <rawrr> Linuxrox. I could do that, lotz of downloading though...
[01:16] <KeithM> I liked gnome back in 10.04
[01:16] <kostkon_> KeithM: try xfce lxde
[01:17] <breadnick> How long does it usually take for a package version to go from "proposed" to "release"? cups-daemon 1.6.2-1ubuntu7 has been proposed for over a month and a half now...
[01:17] <rawrr> If there is anothdr way. I would be interestex
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, Make sure you use the nick of who you are posting to your info is getting really mixed up.
[01:17] <KeithM> xfce looks nice I'm going to try it.
[01:17] <Adie_> mint
[01:17] <KeithM> I'm building this in a virtualbox later, and then forging my own ISO lol
[01:17] <Adie_> use it KeithM
[01:17] <KeithM> so I'm working the bugs out of it
[01:17] <rawrr> Wilee ok im on my phone so no tab
[01:18] <linuxrox> rawrr: i have a link that might work, it's for ubuntu 10.10
[01:18] <linuxrox> http://www.elfnet.org/2010/10/21/ubuntu-10-10-recover-grub-windows/
[01:18] <rawrr> Ill check it out linuxrox.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, I understand, however we only need some basic info here, such as what is installed, how was it installed and do you have that cd/usb.
[01:19] <rawrr> wilee-nilee it mustve gotten lost. Let me repeat: i installed 10.04.
[01:20] <rawrr> Then
[01:20] <rawrr> I hate my phone a lot riggtnow
[01:20] <KeithM> I'm guessing for audio I need to install pulseaudio
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, updated to 10.10 right?
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> upgraded
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> KeithM, not really
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> you could use alsa...
[01:20] <rawrr> Yeah. Then all the way to 12.04 wilee-nilee
[01:20] <linuxrox> rawrr: is 10.04 on your hard drive or usb as a live image?
[01:21] <KeithM> interesting
[01:21] <rawrr> Now i am using 10.04 on my live disc. wilee nilee
[01:21] <rawrr> Linuxrox
[01:21] <hadifarnoud> should I block port 587 on ubuntu server? I have no idea what is this port use
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, Get a 12.04 cd, boot it go to boot repair and run the basic repair, and save the bootinfo summary link, if you have a problem it will help to have.
[01:22] <rawrr> Ok. First im
[01:22] <rawrr> Going to trywhat linuxrox sent
[01:22] <linuxrox> might take a while to download, but it's worth it for your filez
[01:23] <rawrr> Yeah. Really :p i needmy filez
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, You can use that chroot link and get it going, but get a 12.04 ISO as well at some point.
[01:23] <usercheck_> somsips:i have download it,but it turns out the software already installed previously. so why can't run with command :lm-sensors?
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> usercheck_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> Run sudo sensors-detect and choose YES to all YES/no questions.
[01:25] <JoshYme1> Just installed ubuntu on my dell precision m4700 laptop.  Works fine until I put it in the docking station.  Then it comes up with both monitors (dual monitors) but the 2nd monitor is "laggy" when i move the mouse around it trais.. any ideas?  Really trying to be committed to swtiching.
[01:26] <usercheck_> wilee-nilee: it was installed
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> usercheck_, Right but you have to run the cli to get them up and running see the wiki.
[01:26] <zwirc> Hi! Can i check if a user on my ubuntu server has downloaded or opened any root files?
[01:27] <usercheck_> wilee-nilee thx,,
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> zwirc, you might try #ubuntu-server
[01:27] <rawrr> Shoot. I installed 64 bit and the disco is 32bit. Can that cauze problems linuxrox wilee-nill
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> usercheck_, No prpblem.
[01:27] <rawrr> wilee-nilee ^
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, should not
[01:28] <rawrr> U sure. Cause itsteling me /bin/bazh exec error
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, What is disco?
[01:29] <rawrr> Disc
[01:29] <linuxrox> i would make sure your live and the ubuntu versions installed on your hard drive are consistently 64 or 32-bit
[01:29] <rawrr> Live cd
[01:29] <rawrr> Probably a good ideA linuxrox ... :p
[01:30] <rawrr> Gonna try ubuntu 12 usb now :/
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, you need the 12.04 64 bit iso, just get it this is an easy fix to get you booted in.
[01:30] <rawrr> Mmk
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, YOu might want to be aware of suprgrub as well, it will boot you to the install and you can reload grub from the terminal, it is a tiny download.
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[01:32] <hadifarnoud> I limited access to SSH port and port 10000 and 20000 by an specific IP. it was all working well. after restart, I cannot connect to SSH with that IP. this is my iptable. http://pastebin.com/F1JNgw6w any idea?
[01:34] <rawrr> I tried supergrub. It didnt work well :( wilee-nilee
[01:35] <linuxrox> what about other bootloaders? surly, there are alternatives to grub
[01:35] <rawrr> Lilo i think is an alt linuxtox
[01:36] <linuxrox> you might wanna give em a try if you cant get grub fixed xP
[01:36] <linuxrox> but, i guess you'll need to try the ubuntu 12.04 usb first
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, I use an earlier release that works every time I had found the download from the site problematic, this is the one I use. http://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub.berlios/files/super_grub2_disk_hybrid_1.99b1.iso/stats/timeline
[01:37] <usercheck_> linux-backport is used for what?
[01:38] <rawrr> Ok ill tr that if this doesnt woek. Im downloadimg ubuntu12.04.2 x86_64 to my windows partition
[01:38] <rawrr> wilee-nilee
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, yes
[01:38] <rawrr> !who
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> I see you were notifying me. ;)
[01:39] <rawrr> :)
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[01:39] <rawrr> I was making sure you got the messave above lol should have included it i suppose in one whole message
[01:39] <JoshYme1> Should a general question be directed to anyone?  I don't want to violate any rules (It is nice to see an irc channel full!)
[01:40] <rawrr> !coc
[01:40] <usr13> JoshYme1: Just ask, not directed at anyone.  If they answer, then you'll repsond (asking for more detail) with their nick.
[01:42] <hadifarnoud> anyone knows PSAD? It doesn't seem to do anything
[01:42] <usr13> JoshYme1: Until  you enter into a dialogue, no, you don't need to address your qustion(s) to any one nick.
[01:43] <rawrr> This download is going faster than I expected. Peak: 630kib/z
[01:43] <usercheck_> linux-backport is used for what?
[01:43] <usr13> !backport | usercheck_
[01:43] <hadifarnoud> nevermind. AUTO_IDS_DANGER_LEVEL in config was set to 5. in case anyone's wondering
[01:44] <rawrr> Nobody try alt+sysrq+b
[01:44] <linuxrox> now i want to try it
[01:44] <rawrr> XD
[01:44] <kostkon> it reboots the system
[01:44] <linuxrox> you don't say
[01:44] <linuxrox> i used to know the forkbomb
[01:45] <rawrr> Thanks kostkon :)
[01:45] <storrgie> I have a service (mpdscribble) that I want to enable (from the terminal) but when I do an update-rc.d mpdscribble enable it errors out saying: mpdscribble runlevel arguments do not match the LSB default start values
[01:45] <rawrr> What is a forkbom ?
[01:45] <kostkon> rawrr, you are welcome :P
[01:45] <rawrr> :)
[01:45] <usr13> storrgie: How was it installed?
[01:45] <linuxrox> it's when a script continually repeats itself
[01:45] <adv> Hi all
[01:45] <linuxrox> until the machine locks up
[01:45] <linuxrox> you can read more @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[01:46] <rawrr> Wowzers
[01:46] <linuxrox> yeah, you can trick noobs with that, but it's mean so i wouldn't do it xD
[01:46] <rawrr> Lol
[01:47] <usr13> storrgie: (Sounds like the app was not configured properly.)
[01:47] <storrgie> usr13, from apt-get
[01:47] <storrgie> its packaged for ubuntu
[01:47] <storrgie> with a script in /etc/init.d
[01:48] <usercheck_> thx
[01:48] <usr13> storrgie: You might try dpkg-reconfigure
[01:48] <usercheck_> usr13:thx
[01:48] <Jeremy3D> can someone help me so i dont screw everything up (like i usually do)? i have an earlier version of LMMS and wanna update to the newest version, but it doenst look like i downloaded it from software center. probably a (ppa?) thru terminal, but i'm not sure how to update thru terminal now
[01:49] <Jeremy3D> i just dont want to mess up all the plugins and stuff i have set up
[01:49] <usercheck_> i'm sorry just to clarification. is that "!backport | usercheck" command ?
[01:49] <Jeremy3D> here's link to online download if that helps : http://sourceforge.net/projects/lmms/files/lmms/0.4.15/
[01:49] <usr13> storrgie: Check out the man file
[01:50] <rawrr> Jeremy you could download the latest version tarball amd compile it to your desktop to prevent breakimg anything
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> Jeremy3D, If you added a ppa run a update then upgrade in the terminal.
[01:50] <rawrr> Or that
[01:50] <Jeremy3D> wilee-nilee, k i'll check it out
[01:50] <usr13> usercheck_: I would not use backports unless you have an urgent need.
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> Jeremy3D, Honestly you want to protect your plugins but give no definitive description of what you have done.
[01:51] <Jeremy3D> wilee-nilee, it's the upgrade in terminal i'll have to figure out
[01:51] <Jeremy3D> wilee-nilee, my problem is i dont know what ive done. i remember there being some audio plugs and the LADSPA plugin i had to install to get it to work
[01:52] <Jeremy3D> but it was so long ago i dont know where i put everything or how i got it there
[01:52] <usr13> usercheck_: I gave the command  "!backport | usercheck_" so that the bot (ubottu) would address it's factoid to you.
[01:52] <usr13> !ubottu | usercheck_
[01:52] <Gilligan94> anyone know how I can check if my descreet graphics are working?
[01:52] <rawrr> Jeremy can you run lmms from terminal? If so try which lmms it will show you where it is installed
[01:53] <usercheck_> usr13:thx, i'm just to knowing about backport.
[01:54] <usr13> usercheck_: Word to the wise: I've seen backports cause problems
[01:54] <usercheck_> usr13: and about command, i'm just think, if command can do it: !givehesomefood | usercheck_ .
[01:54] <Jeremy3D> Notice: could not set realtime priority.
[01:54] <Jeremy3D> wilee-nilee, sudo apt-get upgrade lmms ?
[01:55] <usercheck_> usr13: back to 'backport', that you mean if we have trouble, we use backport?
[01:55] <Gilligan94> anyone know how I can check that mt 620m is working? I have a feeling i'm running on intel 4000 instead
[01:55] <Gilligan94> *my
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Jeremy3D, No just sudo apt-get upgrade if you added a repo it will see it. I hope you checked the ppa if thats what you did and it has what you want.
[01:57] <will-nill> Lol
[01:58] <Jeremy3D> wilee-nilee, 0 upgrade 0 installed. i dont know what the hell i did and i always get myself into these messes. :\
[01:58] <meowlulzcat> meow
[01:58] <linuxrox> nyan
[01:58] <meowlulzcat> :D
[01:58] <linuxrox> :D
[01:58] <rawrr> Jeremy3D how do you run LMMS
[01:59] <meowlulzcat> hey ever press f13
[01:59] <meowlulzcat> ;D
[01:59] <Jeremy3D> rawrr, i can type lmms in terminal, find it from dash home button
[01:59] <rawrr> yeah
[01:59] <linuxrox> where's the any key?
[02:00] <Gilligan94> are nvidia cards working in 3.8?
[02:00] <rawrr> Jeremh then that is the latest the ubuntu repos can update to. Youhave the normal version
[02:00] <rawrr> If you wany the MOST latest, you will have to get it from their site.
[02:01] <Gilligan94> I'd love some help, if anyone knows anything about nvidia cards in ubuntu let me know
[02:01] <Jeremy3D> rawrr, that makes sense. but how do i find where this current one i have is installed so i can keep them together?
[02:01] <JoshYme1> Gilligan94; What is your question about nvidia cards?
[02:02] <harris> hey whats a good program to watch my dvd in
[02:02] <rawrr> You can keep both versions OR terminal: which lmms
[02:02] <linuxrox> VLC
[02:02] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: well as far as I can tell my drivers arn't working, I'd like to know if there is some way to check
[02:02] <linuxrox> harris: VLC media player
[02:03] <rawrr> Jeremy3D see my last message.
[02:03] <Gilligan94> harris: VLC works great for DVDs
[02:03] <harris> ok thank you linuxrox
[02:03] <harris> and Gilligan94
[02:03] <Gilligan94> harris: you can even watch DVD .iso files with VLC
[02:03] <harris> do i just install it
[02:03] <harris> and it just works
[02:03] <Gilligan94> harris: yup
[02:03] <rawrr> wilee-nilee I am putting the iso onto the usb drive :D
[02:04] <harris> then whats this for
[02:04] <harris> http://www.itworld.com/software/354185/enable-dvd-playback-and-install-multimedia-codecs-ubuntu-1304
[02:04] <rawrr> Linuxrox
[02:04] <JoshYme1> Gilligan94:  When I go into display properties on mine I see nvidia.  do you?
[02:04] <tim`> so can someone please help enlighten me? on 13.04 x86_64, libgsl.so references cblas_dasum and a handful of other symbols provided by libgslcblas.so, but it is not linked against it and libgslcblas does not show up when i run ldd on libgsl.so -- is this intentional?
[02:04] <linuxrox> rawrr: yes?
[02:04] <rawrr> Run.
[02:04] <linuxrox> rawrr: Huh? o-o
[02:04] <rawrr> Goto 15.
[02:04] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: No, mine says Intel® Ivybridge Mobile
[02:04] <rawrr> Print.
[02:05] <linuxrox> Welcome to Apple ][
[02:05] <rawrr> :D
[02:05] <JoshYme1> Gilligan94: what type of computer?  I know I had to disable optimius in my bios.
[02:06] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: I'm using a T430u it has a nvidia 620m
[02:07] <adv> Bye 4 Now
[02:07] <JoshYme1> Gilligan94: have you tried the drivers from nvidia?
[02:08] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: I did, but I'm not sure I did it right. do you have a good guide on removing the drivers/bumblebee that I have now and starting a fresh
[02:08] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: what I've tried so far is documented here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2152186
[02:09] <BillyZane> hi
[02:09] <rawrr> Boot-repair is installing. Running D
[02:09] <JoshYme1> Gilligan94: Let me look.  I'll be back shortly - need to go plugin..  laptop is low on juice.
[02:09] <rawrr> :D
[02:10] <linuxrox> rawrr: How's that live USB working out?
[02:10] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: Roger see you when you get back
[02:10] <rawrr> Great :D
[02:10] <linuxrox> rawrr: Were you able to recover GRUB? Or aren't you there yet?
[02:11] <BillyZane> hi, i'm trying to run a program and it gives me the error: "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[02:11] <rawrr> Im creating a "before" boot info summRy incase something gloes wrong.
[02:11] <rawrr> And an after
[02:11] <rawrr> After i repair it
[02:11] <linuxrox> rawrr: next time you might just want to install windoez on a VM xP
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, It will generate the bootinfo when you run the repair you don't have to run after.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> before is okay
[02:12] <rawrr> Ok
[02:13] <rawrr> Linuxrox, maybe haha
[02:13] <rawrr> Here is b4: 5800325
[02:13] <rawrr> For pastebin
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, WE need the whole HTTP
[02:14] <rawrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800325
[02:15] <rawrr> after: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800331 wilee-nilee linuxrox
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, Looks good reboot.
[02:17] <rawrr> Works :) booted up nix.
[02:17] <ShapeShiftr> hey ubuntu, how do I debug what causes daily CPU+network spikes every day around 7:50 ?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> rawrr, Cool, enjoy.
[02:17] <ShapeShiftr> other than manually logging in & running top ?
[02:18] <rawrr> Thankyou wilee-nilee. I owe you one. Thanks also linuxrox
[02:18] <rawrr> :D
[02:18] <ShapeShiftr> (no entries around that time in crontab, or /etc/cron.d )
[02:19] <HeyM-Cld> Hey I have a problem. I dual booted Ubuntu 13.04 with win 7. I ran out of space on my partition and resized the partition in Windows
[02:20] <HeyM-Cld> Now, I have a system that looks like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/1s2ymkrhl4vp4tr/Screenshot%20from%202013-06-26%2020%3A04%3A36.png
[02:20] <ShapeShiftr> HeyM-Cld, and now your boot manager is borked?
[02:20] <ShapeShiftr> oh.
[02:20] <HeyM-Cld> It boots, Just doesn't recognize 42GB
[02:20] <nintet> can anyone tell me how to install the best driver for an ATI RS480 ?
[02:20] <HeyM-Cld> I have 100MB left
[02:21] <HeyM-Cld> I don't have a clue what to do
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, what is sda5
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> was this a wubi install?
[02:21] <ShapeShiftr> HeyM-Cld, you need to resize the extended partition; and also either move it waaay back at the end
[02:21] <HeyM-Cld> Yes
[02:22] <ShapeShiftr> HeyM-Cld, alternatively, just create a new NTFS partition in the extended area
[02:22] <HeyM-Cld> It won't resize
[02:22] <HeyM-Cld> ShapeShiftr: Use the unallocated space?
[02:22] <ShapeShiftr> HeyM-Cld, yes.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, I think you are out of luck here, you can't resize a wubi from windows, and should not anyway.
[02:22] <nintet> is there a third party driver for my card or something?
[02:22] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld thats correct it won't.  You'd need to nuke the install (just delete the file wubi created) and install again.  Ensure windows see's your drive's properly.
[02:22] <nintet> obviously this is vesa mode which sucks
[02:23] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: How would I go about doing it
[02:23] <ShapeShiftr> HeyM-Cld, have you tried win7's computer management tool? it might be able to add it directly to your main one
[02:23] <Tapper> hey everyone, linux n00b here, was wondering if it was okay to use the Backup program to backup locally or if I should let it upload to Ubuntu One?? takes forever...
[02:23] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld delete the wubi install.  Check the drives for the correct information, then reinstall.
[02:23] <Tapper> im in 13.04, any help super appreciated
[02:23] <HeyM-Cld> I can't
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> Tapper, Locally is fine I would use an external if you have one.
[02:24] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: Because I reinstalled windows and left Ubuntu. wubi is not in the programs list
[02:24] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, oh hey! okay yea that makes sense, I tried to use Ubuntu One but it took all night then said that it had failed!!
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Tapper, The first backup takes awhile as it is saving all, the additional goes faster.
[02:25] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld oh so the wubi got nuked during the windows reinstall?
[02:25] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: Correct
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, I would avoid the wubi install, it is not really supported anymore, and can be harder to deal with then a partitioned install.
[02:26] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld then just skip that step.  Check your drives ensure the correct sizes are there (you don't need to fix your resizing) then reinstall.
[02:26] <ShapeShiftr> how do I debug what causes daily CPU+network spikes every day around 7:50 ?  (other than manually logging in & running top)
[02:26] <nintet> how do i find the best driver for my old ATI card?
[02:26] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld this is WIn7?
[02:26] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: Yes
[02:26] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld ok, thats it then.
[02:27] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: So, insert my ubuntu disk, reformat Ubuntu partition and re-install?
[02:27] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, thats what i thought but it said failed on the upload after taking all night, i guess i can try again
[02:27] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, seems like it would be super convenient to have backup on the cloud
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, You need a bigger HD really, filling it up is not a good idea.
[02:27] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld you got it.
[02:27] <HeyM-Cld> I'm not going to fill it up
[02:28] <HeyM-Cld> I'll just delete the previous install
[02:28] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: Ok, how do I back my data up?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> Tapper, I suppose, I have about 2500 gigs of externals so I use that, but I use the cloud as well for my grad papers and files.
[02:28] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld what data?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> I have my backups backed up, lol
[02:29] <HeyM-Cld> Jeruvy: On Ubuntu, my existing data
[02:29] <domino14> you xylo
[02:29] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld you don't.  You said your ubuntu was gone when you reinstalled.  ??
[02:29] <HeyM-Cld> No no, wubi in programs list was gone
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, What is the sda5?
[02:30] <HeyM-Cld> wilee-nilee: Frankly, I don't know
[02:30] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: http://askubuntu.com/questions/208145/wubi-installed-ubuntu-not-showing-up-at-boot-menu-after-windows-reinstallation
[02:30] <HeyM-Cld> Not boot menu
[02:30] <Gilligan94> ewww wubi
[02:30] <HeyM-Cld> Programs list inside of Windows
[02:31] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, i see your point, i just have that 25gig from ubuntu from referrals
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, Ah, kit is labeled ubuntu but a ntfs and about 16 gigs I was hoping it might have some of your ubuntu data, the area after is unallocated.
[02:31] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, but yea better to leave that to files and backup on external
[02:31] <raedov> hello guys
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> it*
[02:31] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld Wubi creates the Ubuntu installation in a virtual disk which is just a file on your desktop.  If Ubuntu boots, then you can backup your /home directory (and anything else) then delete the file.  (remember me saying this in the beginning?)
[02:31] <raedov> i installed Lubuntu 13.04 and now after the installation finished i can't boot
[02:32] <HeyM-Cld> wilee-nilee: Do you have any idea where the data may be?
[02:32] <HeyM-Cld> wilee-nilee: Maybe in sda3?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, If it was sda6 it seems unallocated, go to the ubuntu file in windows and take a look, you can access bothe OS from each other if all is good in a wubi.
[02:33] <shade34321> I'm compiling a program and it's stating that a library file isn't there yet when I look in the directory I can see it's there. The lib folder is in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, the bin folder is in the PATH. Am I missing anything?
[02:33] <Gilligan94> JoshYme1: Back?
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Can't boot means?
[02:33] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, one last question I hope I am not pestering, if I use the cloud and am backing up my pics, files etc... then what is the "Backup" backing up?
[02:33] <raedov> wilee : when i open the computer after bios there is a black screen and i can't press anything
[02:33] <raedov> i rebooted many times
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> Tapper, I'm not sure with that app I use grsync, I suspect it backs up home, thata what grsync is doing here.
[02:34] <HeyM-Cld> wilee-nilee: I mean where would "/" be? You cannot view linux/ubuntu files in Windows
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> that's
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, YOu can with a wubi.
[02:34] <HeyM-Cld> That's the thing, Wubu is not installed
[02:34] <HeyM-Cld> On Windows
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | raedov
[02:35] <raedov> how can i use it now ? the nomodeset
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Look for using nomodeset in a install in the link.
[02:35] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld can you boot to Ubuntu Y/N?
[02:35] <HeyM-Cld> Yes, I'm on it now
[02:35] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld then back up now :)
[02:35] <HeyM-Cld> Both work perfectly fine
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, Cool, I suspect ubuntu is in the sda5 then.
[02:35] <Jeruvy> Forget the wubi installer :)  Its immaterial after it works.
[02:36] <HeyM-Cld> But, wilee-nilee it's not
[02:36] <HeyM-Cld> Only the Host folder is
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, Then it is in C
[02:36] <HeyM-Cld> I'll show you
[02:37] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: are you trying to resize the wubi install? Increasing the partition won't do that
[02:37] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: I'm trying to resize ubuntu
[02:37] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, much appreciated, ty  for the info
[02:37] <Jeruvy> HeyM-Cld which you cannot do.
[02:37] <naryfa> HeyM-Cld: from a live cd?
[02:37] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeWubiDisk
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, Really for wubi stuff there is like one helper on the ubuntu forums that you want to speak with. Start a thread there with wubi in the header they will stop by, if your problems are not fixed here.
[02:37] <HeyM-Cld> naryfa: If needed yes
[02:38] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[02:38] <naryfa> HeyM-Cld: it's the best bet
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> bcbc2, Heh, and your here, YIPEE. ;)
[02:39] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: I'll try it. I'll be back with the results
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, bcbc2 Is that one helper I mentioned.
[02:39] <Tapper> hey guys what is The Best video editing software for linux
[02:39] <Tapper> free preferably
[02:39] <bcbc2> wilee-nilee: hi ;)
[02:39] <naryfa> Tapper: kdenlive?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> bcbc2, good to see you in the nick of time. ;)
[02:40] <Tapper> naryfa, im new to linux, just curious, i know there are a lot of great programs
[02:41] <raedov> wilee : how can i Select the default ubuntu kernel ? there is nothing just black screen , is there any key that brings up the grub screen to add nomodeset ?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Tapper, Another app I use is clonezilla to clone my OS, it has a bootable ISO.
[02:42] <naryfa> Tapper: most of the people I know use it
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> raedov, as soon as you power on hold down the shift key.
[02:42] <raedov> ok i'll try it , and come back again , thanx
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[02:44] <raedov> wilee: nothing happen
[02:45] <zipy> hey, im running ubuntu server on one of my old mashines. is there away to install a proxy server for tor on the server? i wanna connect to my server over proxy to use the tor network =)
[02:45] <Tapper> wilee-nilee, looking it up now
[02:45] <usr13> !squid | zipy
[02:47] <zipy> okay, but how do i configure squid to tor?
[02:47] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: What do you replace for "/media/win" when Its on sda
[02:47] <HeyM-Cld> sda3
[02:48] <HeyM-Cld> wilee-nilee: Did he leave?
[02:48] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: you have to mount it somewhere
[02:48] <raedov> where r u wilee-nilee
[02:48] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: What do you mean?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> HeyM-Cld, I'm here.
[02:48] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: sudo mkdir /media/win && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/win
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Yes
[02:49] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: I'm lost D:
[02:49] <zipy> usr13, do i need privoxy too?
[02:49] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: you want to resize a file on /dev/sda3
[02:49] <raedov> nothing happen , i press the shift key
[02:49] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: in order to do that you have to mount the partition on a mountpoint
[02:49] <HeyM-Cld> ok, how do I mount it
[02:50] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: that would be /media/win (or some other directory). You mount it as I showed above (which also creates the directory mountpoint)
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> raedov, So as soon as you powered on you held the shift key down, I mean immediately press it.
[02:50] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: this assumes you are using the live CD to resize (not booting from the wubi install)
[02:50] <HeyM-Cld> How do I know what directory to use?
[02:50] <HeyM-Cld> Yes, i'm on the Live CD
[02:51] <raedov> yes wilee i hold it immediately , ok i'll try again
[02:51] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: you can use any empty directory, I use /media/win or you could use /mnt or whatever you choose.
[02:51] <HeyM-Cld> but, why
[02:51] <HeyM-Cld> I'm sorry, this is making no sense to me
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> raedov, This is assuming you had a good install, and the ISO you had was good.
[02:53] <raedov> wilee: i hold it immediately nothing happen
[02:53] <usercheck_> is ubuntu 10.04 is EOL?
[02:53] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: Aren't you just choosing where "/" is stored and mounting that and then resizing that?
[02:54] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: If that's true, why are we choosing a empty folder?
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> raedov, what is your computer model?
[02:54] <raedov> at installation time i boot without nomodeset there is no problem at all , after finish the installation the black screen coming !! dell optiplex 790
[02:54] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: if you want to access the partition, you need to mount it. The file you are resizing is actually a virtual partition.
[02:54] <HeyM-Cld> orlly
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> usercheck_, The dektop version is the server is still supported.
[02:55] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: So, just follow what it says on ResizeWubiDisk and use /media/win?
[02:55] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: you are not resize / (which is currently your live environment). You need to resize the file root.disk which sits on /dev/sda3
[02:55] <jtreminio> Evening all. I'm having some issues with apt-get… saying some packages cannot be authenticated: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5 php5-cli
[02:55] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: Oh
[02:55] <usercheck_> wilee-nilee:thx, but until year 200"?"  ?
[02:55] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: yes use those instructions just replace /dev/sda1 with /dev/sda3
[02:55] <jtreminio> The only extra repo I've added is ppa:ondrej/php5
[02:56] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: m'kay, I'll try it, thanks!
[02:56] <raedov> wilee: i knew it's supported i use lubuntu since 3 years without problems
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> !eol | usercheck_ check the link here.
[02:56] <usercheck_> wilee-nilee:thx,
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Can you check the md5sum of your original ISO, this is a bit weird as afar as getting to grub with the shift key.
[02:58] <raedov> i checked it , it is Identical
[02:58] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: I get this error when I type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/win http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800403/
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> raedov, YOu might try another install.
[02:59] <Gilligan94> So anyone else have experience with Nvidia drivers?
[03:00] <holstein> Gilligan94: i use some.. whats the issue?
[03:00] <ahungry> hey guys, anyone know if ubuntu 12.10 supports an upgrade to apache 2.2.25 (for pci compliance)?  If not - what is the best method for a migration from ubuntu apache via synaptic to install via source (that wont destroy any config files in the process)
[03:00] <raedov> wilee: is there a problems with installing lubuntu with usb ?
[03:00] <Gilligan94> holstein: in short mine arn't working
[03:00] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: that's your extended partition
[03:00] <ahungry> I'm thinking of just setting an apache from source install in a different /opt prefix and leaving the package manager one as a fallback
[03:00] <holstein> Gilligan94: they might not.. which are you using?
[03:00] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: you want /dev/sda5
[03:00] <HeyM-Cld> Oh
[03:00] <Gilligan94> holstein: I have the issue documented here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2152186
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Should not be.
[03:01] <raedov> i make a bootable usb from a program in windows "pendrive"
[03:01] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: and you probably need to resize that first since it's only 16gb
[03:01] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: Yeah, it's working now
[03:01] <Gilligan94> holstein: I'm using kernel 3.8 I suspect the drivers I'm using might not be working with it
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> raedov, Try unetbootin.
[03:01] <holstein> Gilligan94: i would just not use bumblebee... did you get those from PPA?
[03:01] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: did you resize /dev/sda5 already? What size are you hoping to make the wubi install?
[03:02] <raedov> ok i'll try it , thank you
[03:02] <Gilligan94> holstein: I'm not really sure anymore, I really want to purge it all and reinstall
[03:02] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: Yes, I need it to be 40GB total
[03:03] <Gilligan94> holstein: but I agrea I dont like bumblebee much anymore I just want the dedicated graphics to run full time
[03:03] <holstein> Gilligan94: AfAIK, you dont get bumblebee from the default repos.. so, you are not using a supported driver anyways,
[03:03] <holstein> Gilligan94: plus, support with proprietary drivers can already be a bit tricky
[03:03] <Gilligan94> holstein: I see I see
[03:03] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: that dropbox pic showed /dev/sda5 was only 16gb
[03:03] <Gilligan94> holstein: how do you think I should proceed?
[03:04] <holstein> Gilligan94: what i would do is look at my sources, and consider purging any ppa's.. then, i would go to a stock driver
[03:04] <holstein> Gilligan94: or, just reinstall... that usually takes my less time :)
[03:04] <HeyM-Cld> Oh, I gotta fill the allocated space back up to 40GB
[03:04] <Gilligan94> holstein: I'm tempted to reinstall but everything is just how I like it :/
[03:04] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: or you could create a new partition and just migrate the Wubi install to it and make it a normal dual boot. That's another option
[03:04] <Gilligan94> holstein: what's the PPA purge command?
[03:05] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: I'll try to finish what you told me. If it fails to work, I'll try it
[03:05] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: It is supposed to take long to fsck -f /media/win/ubuntu/disks/root.disk?
[03:05] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: no
[03:06] <HeyM-Cld> Uh oh
[03:07] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: Here is what it's saying http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800417/
[03:07] <holstein> !purge-ppa
[03:08] <Gilligan94> holstein: thanks
[03:08] <wheatthin> grr my sound keeps going out to dummy device
[03:08] <Gilligan94> holstein: do you have a guide that you usally use to install drivers?
[03:09] <ahungry> Will the package manager php module work with a from source apache install on ubuntu?
[03:09] <holstein> !nvidia | Gilligan94
[03:09] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: and what's it doing now?
[03:09] <HeyM-Cld> "Pass 2: Checking directory structure"
[03:09] <Gilligan94> holstein: Thanks :) i'll let you know how it goes
[03:09] <holstein> ahungry: the repos version? you will have to try.. and see if the versions work
[03:09] <holstein> ahungry: one is in repo and one is out
[03:09] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: best let it run to completion then
[03:10] <ahungry> I guess since the source I want is 2.2.24 it should work with a 2.2.22 compiled php
[03:10] <ahungry> holstein: thanks
[03:10] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: m'kay
[03:10] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: It finished, lol
[03:11] <Redeuxx> what does 'su -' do? What does '-' mean?
[03:11] <ahungry> default login shell
[03:11] <ahungry> if you do su without a user it defaults to root user, so a 'su' alone will change you to root, but it will not process anything like root's .bashrc
[03:11] <holstein> ahungry: there is not "should".. the should is, the ones that are made by ubuntu and released in the same repos work.. or at least are designed to work and should work
[03:12] <ahungry> or any files which define the environment and paths etc for root user
[03:12] <SDr> how do I debug what causes daily CPU+network spikes every day around 7:50 ?  (other than manually logging in & running top)
[03:12] <Redeuxx> ahungry
[03:12] <Redeuxx> ahungry: thanks! so using - gives me root's environment?
[03:12] <emes> how stable is btrfs in 13.04?
[03:13] <pranav> okey.. should i still install 32 bit ubuntu 13.04 ? owing to 64-bit library support in many apps ?
[03:13] <pranav> or my question is unreasonable..
[03:13] <pranav> *missing library support
[03:14] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: I resized the partition. Now, it's resizing wubi with "resize2fs /media/win/ubuntu/disks/root.disk 10G"
[03:14] <emes> pranav: this isn't 2006, everything supports 64 bit
[03:14] <HeyM-Cld> oops, not 10G, 45G
[03:15] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: How long does this usually take?
[03:15] <pranav> emes.. ok then.. last time i installed eclipse.. and Android Dev Tools on top of it.. i had to manually install many libs
[03:15] <wheatthin> can someone help with my sound card.. for some reason it's defaulting to dummy
[03:15] <pranav> last time was yesterday
[03:16] <bcbc2> HeyM-Cld: it's normally quick (seconds) but I haven't resized to that size. Give it a little time
[03:16] <HeyM-Cld> It's going from 11G -> 45G
[03:16] <Ari-Yang> is it true that radeon driver (open source) runs hot if graphics are dual?
[03:16] <HeyM-Cld> bcbc2: M'kay
[03:16] <pranav> emes: but thanks :)
[03:16] <Gilligan94> PPA-purge gave me the following message "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:"
[03:17] <Gilligan94> did it work dispite that?
[03:17] <holstein> Gilligan94: if it were me, i would spend about 8 minutes messing with that box, then i would wipe it, and start over. i could have already reinstalled by now, and if you cant remember what all you have changed, that might be the path of least resistance
[03:19] <Gilligan94> holstein: I have plenty of time to spare, I really dont want to do a reinstall
[03:19] <xrfang> hi, how do I fix gpg error NODATA 1 NODATA 2 when trying apt-get update? I am running an apt-mirror, and I am sure this mirror is ok, because it serves all other machines in the office.
[03:19] <raedov> wilee: thank you so much , now it is working :)
[03:20] <Gilligan94> holstein: I've never had the nvidia card work out of the box anyway
[03:21] <holstein> Gilligan94: use pastebin to past the *entire* output.. your command, and the error message
[03:22] <Gilligan94> how pastebin?
[03:22] <Gilligan94> !pastebin
[03:22] <Gilligan94> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800431/
[03:23] <holstein> Gilligan94: the command is wrong
[03:24] <Gilligan94> Oh I see, I'll have another look at the article
[03:24] <holstein> sudo ppa-purge ppa:http://ppa.launchpad.net/bumblebee/testing/ubuntu is asking ppa-purge to purge the url to the packages.. not the ppa
[03:25] <Tickle> ppa-purge, a stutters favorite command
[03:25] <Gilligan94> holstein: so I want ppa-purge ppa:bumblebee/testing/ubuntu ?
[03:26] <holstein> Gilligan94: that looks more like it
[03:26] <zg> hello, I'm having issues trying to setup ext4
[03:26] <Gilligan94> holstein: awesome, thatks for your patience
[03:27] <Gilligan94> zg: why do you want to use ext4?
[03:27] <zg> because I want to use ext4.
[03:27] <holstein> zg: for an install?
[03:28] <zg> yes, but I'm having an issue trying to setup the filesystem because the hard drive I use was setup with RAID and I need to remove that setting
[03:31] <holstein> zg: that? what settings?
[03:38] <niftylettuce>  does anyone here know how to make an NPAPI or just a normal plugin that will allow me to add an item cross-platform to right click Context Menu ?
[03:38] <niftylettuce>  im assuming ill need some .h, .cc files to do this cross platform using something like Firebreath
[03:39] <zwirc> Hi! To install LAMP, is this the correct procedure: http://www.unixmen.com/install-lamp-with-1-command-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat/
[03:39] <holstein> !lamp
[03:40] <holstein> zwirc: ^^
[03:43] <drago> who
[03:47] <juboba> hey
[03:48] <drago> hey
[03:48] <phix> hey
[03:49] <Tickle> hey
[03:49] <drago> i am new to this can any body tell what to do next
[03:49] <juboba> how can I install a Brother Network printer? It has a BRW008092231695 name as a share. It's weird because I'm used to install network printers by IP and printer share name. This one has this weird name instead of IP/printer_share
[03:49] <Tickle> drago: New to what?
[03:49] <drago> irc
[03:49] <holstein> drago: read the topic and follow the guidelines
[03:51] <phix> drago: What are you trying to do?
[03:51] <adminstor> join
[03:52] <drago> @phix : i want to understand what is it first
[03:52] <holstein> drago: what what is?
[03:53] <drago> @holstein what is this irc is about and what u people do here
[03:54] <holstein> drago: check the topic.. this is an official support channel for the ubuntu operating system
[03:54] <adminstor> ubuntu new user,,,,,u do open terminal??Hlp...!
[03:54] <holstein> adminstor: terminal is in the menu...
[03:55] <drago> @holstein means i can ask technical stuff about ubuntu????
[03:55] <adminstor> holstein:Tank u...got it.
[03:56] <holstein> drago: it means, that you *must* either ask a support question, or go to the offtopic channel, as the topic states
[03:56] <drago> ok thanks for info
[03:57] <drago> quit
[03:57] <devslash> does anyone know how to trigger the applicationm switcher via the trackpad ?
[03:58] <Ari-Yang> how do i check and see if I have hybrid graphics?
[03:58] <holstein> Ari-Yang: i would ask the vendor
[03:59] <Ari-Yang> holstein, does this look like hybrid graphics?
[03:59] <Ari-Yang> x@Akaigo-Arc:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[03:59] <Ari-Yang> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[04:00] <devslash> ive got a problem in ubuntu. im almost ready to switch from ubuntu because its really annoying. i have ubuntu installed on a mac. my trackpad keeps accidentaly triggering the application switcher that you see when you press alt+tab on the keyboard. does anyone know how i can disable this
[04:01] <holstein> Ari-Yang: looks like an ati graphics device.. not sure if its hyprid
[04:05] <Gilligan94> So how do I determine which Nvidia driver I should be using?
[04:05] <muslimmasr> Do skype,yahoo other chat and social communication prog work 2 spoil muslims youth and spy 4 isreal&usa???????
[04:05] <Gilligan94> nvidia-310?
[04:05] <muslimmasr> do they record and analyse every word we type????????????
[04:05] <muslimmasr> Do skype,yahoo other chat and social communication prog work 2 spoil muslims youth and spy 4 isreal&usa???????
[04:05] <muslimmasr> do they record and analyse every word we type????????????
[04:05] <muslimmasr> هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لصالح اسرائيل وامريكا؟؟؟؟؟؟
[04:05] <FloodBot1> muslimmasr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <Gilligan94> muslimmasr: no
[04:06] <domino14> what is isreal?
[04:06] <devslash> does anyone know how I can fix this ?
[04:06] <Gilligan94> muslimmasr: dont be a bigget
[04:06] <holstein> !nvidia | Gilligan94
[04:07] <Gilligan94> holstein: that's where I am looking
[04:07] <holstein> Gilligan94: then, search for your model
[04:07] <Gilligan94> holstein: search where?
[04:07] <holstein> Gilligan94: ?
[04:07] <holstein> Gilligan94: search your machine for the chip you have
[04:07] <holstein> Gilligan94: lspci in a terminal
[04:08] <Gilligan94> holstein: I have the gtx620m
[04:08] <holstein> Gilligan94: so you look at that site, and see what is suggested
[04:08] <Gilligan94> holstein: as far as I can tell it doesnt suggest anything
[04:10] <holstein> Gilligan94: nvidia-current, correct?
[04:10] <Gilligan94> holstein: I'm trying that, I'm not sure it installed correctly though i'll do a paste bin
[04:12] <Gilligan94> !pastebin
[04:12] <devslash> can someone help me
[04:13] <Gilligan94> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800510/
[04:15] <Gilligan94> devslash: have you tried posting your issue to the ubuntu forums and askubuntu? there might not be anyone here with experience in your area
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> how come when I run sudo echo auto > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> I get "permission denied"?
[04:21] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: cause you can't sudo echo and output to a file, you need to use something like tee
[04:22] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, I see.... is it okay to open up the file in gedit and edit it from there?
[04:22] <bcows> If I place a shared library (.so) file into /usr/local/lib/ then run "sudo ldconfig" without error, but the new linbrary file dosen't show up in "sudo ldconfig -v" what am I missing ?
[04:23] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: well for your example, all you'd need to do is "echo "auto" | sudo tee /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
[04:23] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: without that first quote before echo
[04:23] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, okay I'll try that
[04:24] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, I got
[04:24] <Ari-Yang> x@Akaigo-Arc:~$ echo "auto" | sudo tee /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
[04:24] <Ari-Yang> auto
[04:24] <Ari-Yang> tee: /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method: Invalid argument
[04:26] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: seems like you can't do what you want to
[04:26] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, then should I just open it up and edit it via gedit?
[04:26] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: you probably can't if tee doesn't work, but you can try gksudo gedit for that
[04:27] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, yeah, that's what I meant, trying it with gksudo gedit
[04:27] <zwirc> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[04:27] <zwirc> sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[04:27] <zwirc> why is that?
[04:28] <xangua> zwirc: what ubuntu version are you using¿
[04:28] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, gedit won't even allow me to save it lol
[04:29] <Ari-Yang> said that it can't create a backup and I hit "save anyway" but it wouldn't save
[04:29] <zwirc> 12.04 server
[04:30] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38021/how-to-add-a-ppa-on-a-server zwirc
[04:31] <somsip> Ari-Yang: echo "text" | sudo tee -a /path/file.txt
[04:31] <Ari-Yang> somsip, what does tee -a do?
[04:31] <somsip> Ari-Yang: what you were trying to do when it b0rked - just appends to the file
[04:32] <Ari-Yang> somsip, so I guess it would look like this then: echo "auto" | sudo tee -a /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
[04:32] <somsip> Ari-Yang: or did you want to overwrite?
[04:32] <Ari-Yang> somsip, I want to edit the file and save it
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> atm it has 1 line that says power_profile
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> I want to replace it with auto
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> wait...
[04:33] <somsip> Ari-Yang: just edit it? use nano?
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> nano? another txt editor?
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> I tried gedit and it wouldn't let me
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> >_>
[04:34] <somsip> Ari-Yang: because of the permissions thing. Nano is simple and command line. So you can 'sudo nano /path/file' and it should be easy enough to replace one line
[04:35] <uniqdom> hi.... i'm using ubuntu 13.04, and i'm in troubles... how can I go out from gnome/openbox to Unity? i have auto login enabled.
[04:35] <uniqdom> how can i disable auto login?
[04:35] <holstein> !autologin
[04:36] <uniqdom> i need to do that from the shell
[04:36] <holstein> uniqdom: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/44107/disable-auto-login-from-the-cli
[04:37] <thmcmahon> hi all - i'm trying to install apache, i can access from the server 'links 127.0.0.1' but when i go to the external ip it times out. is there a firewall or something i need to open up?
[04:38] <savid> Something seems to be messed up with my python install.  The '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages' is not in sys.path within the python interpreter.
[04:38] <Ari-Yang> somsip, Ben64, everything worked out, was editing wrong file
[04:38] <Ari-Yang> was suppose to edit power_profile not power_method
[04:39] <somsip> Ari-Yang: hehe
[04:40] <Xraixed> is ubuntu 12.04 still supported
[04:41] <Ari-Yang> Xraixed, yes
[04:41] <Ari-Yang> it's LTS
[04:41] <Ari-Yang> long term support
[04:43] <Ari-Yang> wow, editing power_profile really decreases temp of laptop, though it only does it when it's unplugged
[04:43] <Ari-Yang> wish it did while it was plugged in
[04:43] <Xraixed> till 2014
[04:43] <Xraixed> ??
[04:44] <uniqdom> holstein: it doesn't work
[04:44] <Ari-Yang> Xraixed, until 2017 iirc
[04:44] <Xraixed> nice
[04:44] <holstein> uniqdom: what doesnt work?
[04:45] <uniqdom> the file /etc/gdm/custom.conf  didn't exist... so i have created that with the content pointed out in the link you gave me
[04:47] <holstein> uniqdom: undo that and try http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[04:47] <holstein> uniqdom: what operating system are you using? ubuntu 13.04?
[04:47] <uniqdom> yes... 13.04
[04:50] <applejacks2> aasdas
[04:51] <applejacks2> help please
[04:51] <applejacks2> OP?
[04:51] <applejacks2> am I still muted?
[04:52] <holstein> applejacks2: ? you have not asked for help
[04:53] <applejacks2> [00:50] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu <- wasn't sure if I was still muted since I told someone to switch to windows because he said he doesn't like linux
[04:53] <holstein> applejacks2: can you see the /topic? pleas follow the guidelines.. feel free to discuss windows and what you like in the offtopic channel
[04:54] <applejacks2> holstein: like I said, I wasn't sure if I was still muted
[04:54] <applejacks2> cause it just said "Cannot sent to channel
[04:55] <uniqdom> holstein: thanks a lot.  you are a hacker :)
[04:55] <applejacks2> Anyways, I'm using 13.04 on my desktop, and recently, today, when ubuntu locks [asking for a password] after 30minutes of time out, when I enter my password, and hit enter, the screen will turn black, if I hit enter again, it will go straight back to the lock page and ask for the password
[04:55] <applejacks2> and this will repeat over and over, and it just started today, if I restart my desktop, and use the default login screen on start, click my username, and enter my password it will work perfectly fine
[04:55] <holstein> uniqdom: cheers
[04:56] <applejacks2> the only thing I'm done on it is just sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:57] <applejacks2> So I have no idea why its doing this, and this is a real problem since I leave my desktop on 24/7 cause I'm always switching to using it back and forth between other system, [actually I believe the timeout is only set to like 5-10minutes]
[04:57] <holstein> applejacks2: i would test as another user.. even try the guest account.. if you can login as another user, the issue is in the user config
[04:57] <applejacks2> I have disabled the guest account, and do not have any other accouns on it
[04:57] <applejacks2> 13.04 has been installed for about 2weeks now, I've use to use linux mint 13 before then
[04:58] <applejacks2> I REALly don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu again after I had everything setup for my needs
[04:59] <applejacks2> nor have this problem happen in the future if it keeps going on.
[05:02] <holstein> applejacks2: create a new user and test
[05:03] <applejacks2> holstein: nevermind, I still have guest on, now when I'm in guest, and hit "lock" it will do nothing at all, it will stay on the desktop
[05:04] <holstein> applejacks2: lock? are you able to login or not?
[05:04] <holstein> applejacks2: is it the login that is broken? or the "lock"?
[05:04] <holstein> i dont use "lock".. i have a custom locker..
[05:05] <applejacks2> holstein:  now if I go back on my main account, and hit lock, it will lock it, but as I said, if I enter my password, it will go to a black screen, and if I hit enter again, it wil go back to the lock screen, HOWever, If I lock it [on my main acoount, and then click on switch users, and ten select my main account and enter the password it will log me back in with no problems
[05:06] <stlu> Hi, quick question about permissions
[05:07] <applejacks2> and yes, I can log in, from a reboot onto my main account just fine, but if it locks, and I enter the password, it will do nothing and return to the lock page, but if I switch uses, and then login my main account it will work without a problem, HOWEER on the guest account, if I click lock, it wil do nothing and stay on the desktop
[05:07] <holstein> applejacks2: maybe its just me, but im not following that.. what i would do is make another user, as i said.. then, if all is well, the issue is in the config of the normal user.
[05:08] <applejacks2> uh.
[05:08] <applejacks2> hold on
[05:09] <abetusk> sorry, I know this isn't specific to Ubuntu, but I just bought a new Dell Inspiron 660 and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on it (64 bit).  I have an old computer with a TB drive that I would like to add.  Is it as simple as adding the hard drive to another one of the sata slots?
[05:09] <stlu> If I change a directory permission to rw, but not x, then I will have difficulty using this directory correct?
[05:11] <Flannel> stlu: directories need +x, yes.
[05:13] <stlu> So, if I were applying mode change recursively, as a script, it would be fair to assume that the user asking for read should automatically get execute as well?
[05:14] <stlu> For example applying 644 to all files makes sense,  but it should be 755 for the directories...
[05:14] <applejacks2> holstein: okay I think I worded it better
[05:14] <applejacks2> 1) Cold boot up, select user "gxx" [main account], enter password, goes to desktop. 2) On "gxx" if I lock the desktop, it will go to the lock screen, if I enter my password+enter it will go to a black screen and stay their, if I hit enter again, it will go back to the lock screen of "gxx". 3) While on the dsktop of "gxx" and I lock it, and then click on "Switch Users" and then select "gxx" followed by my password, it will log me i
[05:15] <holstein> applejacks2: its just a wall-o-text.. and it gets cut off.. keep it short
[05:15] <applejacks2> However, locking on my main account gxx does work
[05:15] <stlu> applejacks2: just my two cents, but shouldn't it tell you that you are already logged in?  In which case the first Graphical session may have crashed?
[05:15] <holstein> applejacks2: i login, and get a black screen when locking the screen as this user, but not as this one
[05:16] <applejacks2> Guest Accout: Locking does nothing, it will stay on the desktop
[05:16] <applejacks2> Main account: if I lock it, then enter my password, it will go to a black page
[05:17] <applejacks2> If I do a cold boot, and login my main account, it will logged without problems, it just wont log back in from a lock screen on my main account
[05:18] <holstein> applejacks2: what would i do? make a new user account and test.. then, if all is well as the new user (not guest) i would remove the config files from my home and test again. then, if all is well, i would put back what i need
[05:18] <applejacks2> okay let me try that
[05:19] <Flannel> stlu: You shouldn't set modes based on numbers, you should use rwx, etc.  Also, look into +X (as opposed to +x), it will help you solve this dilemma.
[05:21] <applejacks2> holstein: okay the new account works perfectly, so the config file on my main account is messed up? where/how do I fix that?
[05:22] <stlu> Flannel: the capitol X option is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
[05:22] <stlu> *capital X...
[05:23] <stlu> applejacks2: this is the part where you will need to be very careful not to lose important files!
[05:24] <smallmouse> hi can anyone offer me assistance with my touchpad, it is very sticky i have tried to go through all the web but am not finding a solution
[05:24] <holstein> applejacks2: as i said.. i would move the config files from my main account.. with care, as stlu says.. test.. then, put back what you need, which might not be that much anyways..
[05:24] <holstein> applejacks2: this is not the only way to do it.. its just that now, you know where the problem is
[05:25] <stlu> sticky? pls describe better... is it clicking on something and not letting go... or the cursor won't move?
[05:25] <applejacks2> okay, where are these config files, and what folder are they in?
[05:26] <holstein> applejacks2: they are in your home folder.. hidden.. .mozilla for example.. is the one for firefox
[05:26] <applejacks2> okay thank you, just one last question
[05:26] <holstein> applejacks2: there are .config files somewhere for the session that are broken
[05:26] <holstein> applejacks2: you remove them, and they respawn fresh ones.. i just dont know which.. so, i usually just take them all out of the way, and put back what i want, since its not that many
[05:27] <applejacks2> is it better to use a standard account 100% of the time & not an admin account for everyday useage? or is linux safe enough to always be using an admin account all the time?
[05:27] <holstein> applejacks2: that has nothing to do with linux
[05:27] <holstein> applejacks2: there is no reason to ever run anything as root.. unless you must
[05:28] <holstein> applejacks2: you dont need to run the desktop as root, or a web browser.. you get no benfit.. only potential issues.. not matter what operating system
[05:28] <holstein> applejacks2: the fact that you are an admin *is* the safety issue.. its not that things get "better" and make that not necessary any more
[05:28] <applejacks2>  I'm talking about linux, I'm not talking about running root, but on the accounts, there is two choices, an adminisantor account and standard account, is it safe enough, for just a normal joe at home just webbrowsing using an admina ccount? or should everyone use a standard account and su/sudo when needed?
[05:29] <holstein> applejacks2: when i say "root" above, that is admin..
[05:29] <Flannel> applejacks2: admin accounts have access to sudo.  "normal" accounts do not.
[05:29] <Flannel> holstein: root is different than admin.
[05:29] <holstein> Flannel: sure, but i think it stands to answer the question
[05:30] <Flannel> applejacks2: And yes, it is safe enough to run a regular desktop user as an admin account.
[05:30] <holstein> Flannel: not to run a desktop as admin or root or sudo
[05:30] <zero_coder> hello
[05:30] <zero_coder> I have got a tar file size > 6 gb
[05:30] <Flannel> holstein: it doesn't really, no.  Again, "admin" is not the same as root.  Your first user created is an admin account, and most people stick with it for their regular account just fine.
[05:30] <zero_coder> so cant copy it to usb
[05:30] <zero_coder> what to do
[05:30] <zero_coder> ?
[05:31] <applejacks2> I'm still fairly new to linux, but many a couple of pcs running linux, and two raspberry pi's running as well, too bad ubuntu doesn't support the raspberry pis.
[05:31] <holstein> Flannel: i think we are talking about something very similar
[05:31] <holstein> applejacks2: you should read and decide for yourself anyway
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, Fat32 will only do 4 gigs at a time I believe.
[05:32] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee yep thats the problem
[05:32] <slashme> Ubuntu runs quite well on a Cubiboard, so it's not Ubuntus fault. It's the Rasp's fault of using old ARM-Chips. ;)
[05:32] <zero_coder> can i do exfat in ubuntu
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, I would do ntfs
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> but tahts me
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> thats*
[05:33] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee : NTFS can do that?
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, Yep
[05:33] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee, I havent seen pendrives usually formatted in NTFS
[05:33] <zero_coder> its usually FAT or FAT32
[05:33] <Flannel> zero_coder: Easiest way (or rather, most supported way) is to split the file up into 4GB (minus wiggle room) chunks with tar.
[05:33] <stlu> Why do I think that exFat and Ntfs are two names for the same fs?
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, I have one for special needs, you can use a nfts to extract windows iso for booting with a bootflag.
[05:34] <zero_coder> flannel : its alre.ady a tar
[05:34] <applejacks2> had one question does ubuntu support the ODROID-u2 or beagleboard with standard ubuntu arm isos?
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> not XP but vista up
[05:34] <Flannel> zero_coder: Ok... so tar it again and specify you want to split it up?
[05:34] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee, thats awesome
[05:34] <applejacks2> oh, thanks slashme, the Cubiboar was the last one I forgot
[05:34] <zero_coder> Flannel : well I cant tar it as two parts
[05:34] <slashme> applejacks2: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
[05:34] <Flannel> zero_coder: What?
[05:35] <zero_coder> its my entire ubuntu file system tahts being tarred
[05:35] <zero_coder> Flannel, I did it to clone my pc with my laptop
[05:35] <Flannel> zero_coder: You can have tar create small1.tar and small2.tar, each half as large as large.tar
[05:35] <applejacks2> slashme: are you fimilar with all of those mini-pcs?
[05:36] <Flannel> zero_coder: I don't see how that's relevant.  Have tar split your 6GB file into two 3GB files.  Then put them on FAT (3GB < 4GB) and you're fine.
[05:36] <slashme> applejacks2: A bit.
[05:36] <zero_coder> Flannel, but if ntfs can do it. then its alright
[05:36] <applejacks2> Can I PM you slashme ?
[05:37] <slashme> zero_coder: You could also use dd to clone your filesystem. You could use something like 'dd if=/dev/sda | split -b=4000m' to split those files.
[05:37] <Flannel> zero_coder: if you have a USB that's NTFS, yes.
[05:37] <slashme> applejacks2: sure.
[05:37] <stlu> I have a 250gb hard drive for that kind of thing, but I guess thats not an available resource for you.
[05:37] <stlu> You know, the external 2.5" kind.
[05:37] <zero_coder> flannel : you can format the usb to NTFS right?
[05:39] <Flannel> zero_coder: If you want to go through the trouble of reformatting your USB, sure.  Or you just use a single command to split it up.  Whichever way you think is easier, I suppose.
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> no bias there, lol
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:40] <zero_coder> Flannel, if i split it up , can i remerge it ?
[05:41] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: Well, reformatting the USB is pretty time consuming, it also assumes he has a sacrificial thumb drive.  It also assumes that whatever is reading it on the other end can read NTFS.
[05:41] <Flannel> zero_coder: Yeah, tar does that too.  It'd be rather pointless if you couldn't.
[05:41] <zero_coder> Flannel, can you gimme the commands please?
[05:42] <Flannel> zero_coder: tar -c -M -v -tape-length=3145728 -file=outputfile1.tar inputfile.tgz
[05:43] <Flannel> zero_coder: that'll make a 3GB file (3145728 is 3*1024*1024).  The first filename will be outputfile1.tar, and then when it prompts you, you type 'n outputfile2.tar' and hit enter, and then continue until it's done (however many files).
[05:44] <zero_coder> Flannel, an erorr tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option
[05:44] <Flannel> zero_coder: on the other side, it's `tar -x -M -v -file=smallfile1.tar bigfile.tgz` and then similar 'n filename2.tar' for additional piece files.  (Where smallfile1.tar is the first file you created the first time)
[05:47] <zero_coder> flannel ?
[05:48] <stlu> think it should be --tape... not -tape which will use all of the t, a, p, e args.
[05:48] <Flannel> zero_coder: yeah, sorry, those should be double dashes, on --tape and --file
[05:49] <zero_coder> okay stlu and Flannel
[05:49] <ctcb> I have 13.04, and I'm having a problem with my Samson CO1U USB Mic.
[05:49] <ctcb> It appears, and I can use it, but after about 20 seconds, It stops getting a feed and it's like I have no audio.
[05:50] <ivanatora> hello, any pulseaudio guru around?
[05:50] <ivanatora> I want to know if it is possible to set different applications to use different sinks
[05:50] <ctcb> Then on the Audio Properties, I need to switch to something else, come back and then move the audio slider.
[05:50] <ctcb> How do I fix this?
[05:50] <ivanatora> (I want to play all system sounds trough headphones and one specific mplayer trough speakers)
[05:56] <mynameisdeleted2> so... a few years ago w3schools has consistantly shown browser-os usage of linux around 3%.. between 2010 and 2013 its eding towards 5% with mac latest at 9.7% and linux latest at 4.9%.. much better than the 2.2% in enjoyed in 2003
[05:56] <mynameisdeleted2> tablets and smartphones have made people less dependant on windows
[05:57] <mynameisdeleted2> given march was 4.7%, april was 4.8 and may was 4.9, maybe june will be 5
[05:57] <linuxrox> android ftw
[05:57] <zero_coder> Flannel, I got 3 files  :)
[05:57] <kostkon> !ot | mynameisdeleted2
[05:57] <zero_coder> i will copy it to fedora. but then how can i merge it?
[05:58] <Flannel> zero_coder: I gave you the second command, but just add the double dashes like that one too
[05:59] <zero_coder> Flannel, can you just gimme it once more ? I am sorry..
[05:59] <Flannel> zero_coder: on the other side, it's `tar -x -M -v --file=smallfile1.tar bigfile.tgz` and then similar 'n filename2.tar' for additional piece files.  (Where smallfile1.tar is the first file you created the first time)
[05:59] <zero_coder> Flannel, thank you macha :)
[06:00] <mynameisdeleted2> what app do I install to make ubuntu 13.10 look like the ubuntu-tv advertisement?
[06:00] <mynameisdeleted2> and get internet-tv sources to watch tv channels on?
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | mynameisdeleted2
[06:00] <zero_coder> mynameisdeleted2 : ubuntu has an ad?
[06:01] <mynameisdeleted2> http://www.ubuntu.com/tv
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> mynameisdeleted2, #ubuntu+1 is the channel you want.
[06:01] <mynameisdeleted2> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone   I want that on my android phone.. I got a spare to put it on
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> !touch
[06:03] <mynameisdeleted2> join #ubuntu-touch
[06:10] <MrKB> how do I get the manual for an app through terminal
[06:10] <MrKB> I know it was man something
[06:11] <ivanatora> any idea why amixer reports only front left
[06:11] <ivanatora> left|right channels, but not any rear?
[06:11] <ivanatora> $ amixer |grep -i rear returns only rear mic
[06:12] <daya> I upgraded Ubuntu 10.04 Server using Alternate CD, but it doesn't upgrade the kernel any idea channel?
[06:12] <ivanatora> lspci shows that device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[06:12] <ivanatora> (and I definately have rear 3.5mm jacks :)
[06:23] <SuperLag> I have a ThinkPad connected to a docking station. When I boot undocked, the theme and fonts look fine when the desktop loads. (running Xubuntu 13.04)
[06:23] <SuperLag> However, if I reboot while docked, the theme is hosed, and so are the fonts. You guys heard of any issue like that?
[06:23] <SuperLag> a pair of external monitors connected to the docking station
[06:28] <Semen_Dickman> okay when i plug in my fuckking phone
[06:28] <Semen_Dickman> in to this fubuntu
[06:28] <Semen_Dickman> my  pone vibrates simultaneously making me to use it as vibrator for your mother
[06:28] <Semen_Dickman> can any one help me with this
[06:28] <Semen_Dickman> is it my pghone's fault or ubuntu;s
[06:29] <xangua> !ops
[06:29] <Semen_Dickman> mother buck
[06:29] <Semen_Dickman> help me now bitches
[06:34] <Semen_Dickman> hi
[06:35] <Semen_Dickman> im in ubuntu..is ubuntu somekinda uganda africa region?
[07:06] <wyongjun> How can I install gstreamer 1.0 in Ubuntu 1.04?
[07:06] <wyongjun> How can I install gstreamer 1.0 in Ubuntu 13.04?
[07:06] <wyongjun> Package gstreamer-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:06] <wyongjun> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-1.0.pc'
[07:06] <wyongjun> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[07:06] <wyongjun> No package 'gstreamer-1.0' found
[07:06] <wyongjun> Package gstreamer-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:06] <FloodBot1> wyongjun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:06] <wyongjun> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-1.0.pc'
[07:07] <wyongjun> Package gstreamer-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:07] <wyongjun> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-1.0.pc'
[07:07] <wyongjun> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[07:07] <wyongjun> No package 'gstreamer-1.0' found
[07:07] <wyongjun> Package gstreamer-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:07] <FloodBot1> wyongjun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <wyongjun> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-1.0.pc'
[07:10] <KriShaNsin> in the Terminal, is "sudo apt-get install konversation" the same as "sudo apt-get install Konversation" ? the capital letter K being the difference. same thing?
[07:14] <doleyb_> KriShaNsin: the capital K makes it different, and makes it not work
[07:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:15] <cristian_c> I've got a asus WL-330GE device
[07:15] <cristian_c> *an
[07:16] <cristian_c> How can I disable wan with ubuntu in repeater mode?
[07:16] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:17] <KriShaNsin> doleyb_: oh ok, but I did the lower case from terminal, and it looked like it installed , but the lens couldnt find it. even i rebooted, but Konversation wasnt there, so i had to install by the Ubuntu Software Center. now i got it.i should have checked the terminal text for an error message before i closed it, i just assumed that it was ok.
[07:20] <KriShaNsin> so if i want to completely remove an app and reinstall it , i type sudo apt-get remove <app name>?
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, To completely remove run sudo apt-get purge <app name>
[07:21] <KriShaNsin> wilee-nilee: oh ok so purge is the end all command. got it thanks i was hazy on that point
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> this removes the config as well
[07:21] <KriShaNsin> end all= +config . got it .
[07:22] <KriShaNsin> so then the remove command removes the app and then leaves the config file i got it now thanks
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[07:23] <vlad24bit> heLP!@
[07:25] <vlad24bit> how do record what pulseaudio is playing?
[07:26] <vlad24bit> does anyone know how I can record a cd playing with a guitar on the mic input
[07:27] <KriShaNsin> after installing an app through the terminal, what do i have do to get it to show up in the lens? or is it supposed to already? and should i always run sudo apt-get update after installing an app?
[07:27] <KriShaNsin> *unity lens
[07:28] <KriShaNsin> *installing app through terminal i mean
[07:29] <aladdin> how do you run ruby code from the terminal?
[07:29] <crazyhorse> on ubuntu what should i be using for a firewall, just iptables
[07:29] <applejacks2> can you run a live usb stick, and then expand the file system of ubuntu onto that usb stick, and it'll act like a normal hdd, right?
[07:29] <applejacks2> that way all the changes you make is saved on the usb stick?
[07:30] <crazyhorse> aladdin: ruby -e "command"
[07:30] <auronandace> KriShaNsin: sudo apt-get update refreshes the repos to make sure you are fetching what is current (you do it before installing an app)
[07:30] <crazyhorse> aladdin: or irb for an interactive console
[07:30] <applejacks2> ?
[07:30] <aladdin> crazyhorse: irb?
[07:30] <crazyhorse> aladding: type it an dplay
[07:30] <crazyhorse> and play*
[07:31] <crazyhorse> irb = interactive-ruby
[07:31] <aladdin> ok, thanks
[07:31] <vlad24bit> i need a way to record the pulseaudio speakers
[07:33] <KriShaNsin> in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS there was a way to connect to ssh on the top panel left side you could just click the option "connect to server" from the nautilus dropdown menu there under file. where is that option on raring ringtail  main?
[07:33] <KriShaNsin> *13.04? i cant find that option here
[07:34] <KriShaNsin> now it just says Ubuntu Desktop there. and clicking it does nothing
[07:37] <KriShaNsin> what is the Browse Network button and why when i open it it has a Windows Network folder there and when i open that i get an error?
[07:37] <aeon-ltd> KriShaNsin: old samba share?
[07:38] <KriShaNsin> aeon-ltd: i dont even know what that is
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> a protocol used to do file sharing between windows and linux+mac
[07:38] <KriShaNsin> aeon-ltd: do i need that folder ? how do i get rid of it?
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> no idea til you can truly identify it
[07:39] <aladdin> crazyhorse: help me if you know this, how do u run this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800806/
[07:41] <crazyhorse> aladdin: stick it an file chmod +x the file
[07:41] <crazyhorse> then just run it
[07:41] <KriShaNsin> aeon-ltd: http://imagebin.org/262537
[07:41] <crazyhorse> ok i have a webserver running... do i need to allow ANY outgoing ports?
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> KriShaNsin: you probably created it or it's just there as a placeholder (i'm not running ubuntu currently so i cannot confirm)
[07:42] <KriShaNsin> how do i get rid of it ?
[07:43] <aeon-ltd> KriShaNsin: why? it seems harmless
[07:43] <KriShaNsin> aeon-ltd: it creeps me out!
[07:43] <KriShaNsin> aeon-ltd: i need it gone
[07:43] <aeon-ltd> :)
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> that's irrational.
[07:45] <aladdin> crazyhorse: aha, ok let me try it out
[07:47] <karven> Anyone online?
[07:47] <karven> ?
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> karven: we are all bots assigned by the NSA to get intel from you
[07:49] <notdan> Hi! What is the status of SELinux on Ubuntu?
[07:49] <notdan> I've been googling around but didn't get much relevant recent information
[07:50] <ikonia> notdan: what do you mean what's it's status ?
[07:50] <notdan> Well I read in a bunch of places (forums, wiki) that it's broken and it's not recommended for use in Ubuntu
[07:51] <ikonia> notdan: I don't see it as "broken", but Ubuntu is designed around aparmor instead
[07:51] <notdan> but it should be OK if I want to use it to restrict some of my processes?
[07:52] <ikonia> notdan: I don't see why you'd have a problem if you understand it and have sound policies
[07:52] <notdan> ok, thanks
[07:53] <ikonia> notdan: I've used it in an earlier release and it worked, however it was too much effort as very little was aware of selinux due to aparmor, so it made more sense to use aparmor
[07:53] <notdan> i was just troubled by the sudden bad press :S
[07:53] <thermoman> after the last kde update some days ago now i got several user reports that their kde desktop is so slow it's unusable. klicking an icon to open up an app takes 3 minutes or more. on quadcore hardware not older that 3 years
[07:53] <notdan> What do you mean by very little was aware?
[07:54] <karven> How to install Ubuntu kylin?
[07:54] <ikonia> notdan: some of the applications where not selinux aware, and their policies where set up for aparmor, so needed effort to configure
[07:54] <ikonia> karven kylin ?
[07:54] <karven> no
[07:54] <ikonia> karven: what do you mean "no"? you just asked for it
[07:55] <notdan> ah, I see
[07:55] <notdan> thank ikonia
[07:55] <karven> Who can speak Chinese?
[07:55] <applejacks2> Okay, buying a motherboard, and would like some input to see if it'll play nicely with ubuntu
[07:56] <ikonia> !cn | karven
[07:56] <somsip> !hardware | applejacks2
[07:56] <applejacks2> Intel NM70 North Bridge, Celeron [Sandy Brdige] CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135350
[07:56] <karven> Oh I see Thank you!
[07:56] <KriShaNsin> how do i disable bluetooth from my user panel and also after sed oneliner there is no bluetooth in startup applications either.
[07:56] <JuPaname|2> irc://irc.JuPaname.fr
[07:57] <KriShaNsin> i want to disable bluetooth at start up
[07:57] <KriShaNsin> and remove from user pane;
[07:58] <applejacks2> somsip: if you would of looked, you would of seen that the socket isn't on that list
[07:58] <applejacks2> which is why I asked
[07:59] <ikonia> applejacks2 you'll need to research that device against generic linux support to get an idea of it's support levels
[07:59] <applejacks2> where?
[07:59] <applejacks2> google?
[07:59] <ikonia> applejacks2: the internet, the ubuntu wiki, the linux hardware compatability site
[08:00] <ikonia> applejacks2: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <applejacks2> ikonia: i'm talking about a motherboar,d not a system
[08:01] <kilonux> hello! need help  to read lost mails still present in INBOX,sbd  , TB17.06 on Ubuntu12.04
[08:01] <ikonia> applejacks2: yes I know, but if you apply some logic you can work it out
[08:01] <applejacks2> I don't see it on that list either
[08:01] <applejacks2> I looked at a couple of website, and it doesn't have what I'm looking for, which is why I deided to ask here
[08:01] <ikonia> applejacks2: apply logic - look for a device that shares hardware components and check it's certification
[08:05] <Ogham> How do I configure usb_storage quirks on 13.04? I have a portable media player (mass storage not MTP) - I tried 'options usb_storage quirks=0755:2205:bmw' in /etc/modprobe.d/colorflyc4.conf but it appears to have no effect (on reboot), whilst 'echo "0755:2205:bmw" >> /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/quirks' *does* and the device automounts..
[08:05] <crazyhorse> ok
[08:06] <Ogham> Am I using an old config mechanism?
[08:06] <crazyhorse> what ports do i need open on a webserver?   outbound: none?   inbound: 22, 443, 80   is that it?
[08:06] <ikonia> crazyhorse: 80 and 443 - 22 is nothing to do with a webserver
[08:06] <crazyhorse> ikonia: i need to ssh onto the thing :)
[08:07] <applejacks2> still can't find any info
[08:07] <ikonia> applejacks2: I'm sorry that's just unacceptable.
[08:09] <applejacks2> most of it is just bullcrap nothing really about it
[08:09] <ikonia> applejacks2: first 8 hits on google show excellent information
[08:09] <ikonia> applejacks2: there is nothing "bullcrap" about it
[08:09] <ikonia> applejacks2: it will work - there you go, I've done the work for you
[08:09] <applejacks2> oh really? does it state it'll work with ubuntu?
[08:10] <applejacks2> now I found a website that showed good info, and was not the first 8
[08:10] <raedov> guys I've 2 PC's on the network one of them i installed ubuntu on it , the other PC comes with windows 7 , how can i share files between both of them ?
[08:10] <applejacks2> the first 8 was just bs, not even talking about it it supported it or anything, just related the words ubuntu into it
[08:10] <ikonia> applejacks2: the first 8 hits showed it as good support and I've just told you it's supported on linux, so use it with confidence
[08:11] <ikonia> applejacks2: please stop saying things are "BS" when its cleaer you have no idea, so you're not in a place to say things are true or not
[08:11] <applejacks2> but maybe it was just the way I typed it into the search engine
[08:11] <applejacks2> you must of worded it differently
[08:11] <applejacks2> but thank you for the help
[08:12] <crazyhorse> how do you block outgoing traffic on a server?
[08:12] <ikonia> crazyhorse: use iptables via ubuntu firewall (UFW)
[08:13] <crazyhorse> allow 443/tcp << says allow incoming?  or allow incoming and outgoing?
[08:14] <ikonia> crazyhorse: depends on your rule
[08:14] <crazyhorse> i'm writing them.. i'm guessing the servers don't need to have access to ANY outgoing ports
[08:14] <crazyhorse> and that i just need 22,80,443 incoming
[08:17] <llutz> crazyhorse: well, what port do you think your webserver sends the answer to?
[08:17] <crazyhorse> some random high-numbered one
[08:17] <Ogham> Ok, still stuck! So is creating an arbitrarily named .conf file in /etc/modprobe.conf the correct way to add quirks for usb_storage? Is there something else I am missing?
[08:18] <crazyhorse> but doesn't work like NAT, i.e. it tags the incoming request and allows outbound ones
[08:18] <crazyhorse> in response
[08:18] <Lionthinker> Hi everyone, can someone help me
[08:18] <hairyseaward> elementary
[08:18] <llutz> crazyhorse: if your rules allow that (established)
[08:18] <hairyseaward> oops nvm last post . Sorry
[08:18] <crazyhorse> llutz: I'm not sure, that's why i'm asking :D
[08:19] <Lionthinker> I backed up using duplicity and restored my machine, now there seems to be an error
[08:20] <Lionthinker> the problem comes with Ubuntu one, and the sync file
[08:23] <histo> Lionthinker: the error may be of use to elicit a response.
[08:24] <Ogham> Strangely... I didn't need any of this usb quirk crap on FreeBSD!?
[08:25] <ikonia> Ogham: you're not using freebsd - so that has no relevence.
[08:26] <raedov> guys is there a problem if i install the kernel 3.9.7
[08:26] <histo> Ogham: What is the ultimate end goal that you are trying to add stuff to modprobe for?
[08:26] <ikonia> raedov: why would you do that ?
[08:26] <Lionthinker> histo: well actually its about finding the sync file
[08:26] <Lionthinker> i don't want to upload/download my entire cloud
[08:27] <thecodeischaos> you can download clouds?
[08:27] <ikonia> thecodeischaos: what ?
[08:28] <raedov> ikonia: someone told me after install this kernel everything is better
[08:28] <ikonia> raedov: so you're just going to blindly do it for no reason ?
[08:28] <Ogham> histo: So that this media player will automount when I plug it in, I can enable the quirk on the usb_storage module on the fly via /sys/module.. but It doesn't seem to work when I add the rule to a .conf in /etc/modprobe.d
[08:28] <raedov> yes
[08:28] <ikonia> raedov: that is a foolish approach in my experience and opinion
[08:28] <raedov> should i stay with the default kernel in ubuntu
[08:28] <Ogham> ikonia: sorry, its just that I don't even need to set a quirk on FreeBSD, and it 'just works'
[08:28] <ikonia> raedov: the fact that you don't know if it will cause a problem (hence asking here) and you still want to install it shows an unwise decision
[08:29] <ikonia> Ogham: again, I don't see any relevence
[08:29] <raedov> ikonia: aha thank you :)
[08:29] <vlt> But if nothing ever gets better in this world it’s clearly raedov’s fault
[08:30] <histo> Ogham: why don't you make a udev rule?
[08:31] <OrderPicker> Hi there, is there already a ubuntu distri which includes postgresql 9.* ?
[08:31] <Ogham> histo: so that is a better alternative to specifying the quirk under /etc/modprobe.d? If it works I am happy!
[08:33] <zooz> hey people
[08:33] <ludwig_> hey guys, im pretty noobish so be nice but, i have a folder on my desktop that somehow got locked, it has a little lock icon on it,  if I navigate to the desktop via the terminal , what command should i issue to remove it?
[08:33] <zooz> how can I set environment variables within a pbuilder environment when I build packages?
[08:33] <histo> Ogham: not quite sure what a quirk is
[08:34] <Ogham> histo: well in this case, see the 'usb-storage.quirks=' section here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[08:35] <histo> Ogham: I would just create a udev rule that when that device is plugged in to mount it to some directory. Although the usb device should be auto mounted anyway.
[08:36] <Ogham> histo: Unfortunately the kernel/usb_storage module drops the device within 5 seconds of plugging it in, it only shows up under lsusb for a few seconds :(
[08:36] <Ogham> histo: The quirk fixes this though
[08:36] <histo> Ogham: okay so then what's the question?
[08:36] <Ogham> histo: How do I set the quirk permanently :)
[08:37] <Ogham> 10:05 < Ogham> How do I configure usb_storage quirks on 13.04? I have a portable media player (mass storage not MTP) - I tried 'options usb_storage quirks=0755:2205:bmw' in /etc/modprobe.d/colorflyc4.conf but it  appears to have no effect (on reboot), whilst 'echo "0755:2205:bmw" >> /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/quirks' *does* and the device automounts..
[08:37] <ShoeBaloo> Hi there, is there already a ubuntu distri which includes postgresql 9.* ?
[08:40] <crazyhorse> hmm on my computer i'm trying "nc -l 12345" and i can "nc 10.0.1.104 12345" locally fine but not from another computer
[08:40] <crazyhorse> any idea why not?
[08:41] <ikonia> crazyhorse: what ??
[08:42] <histo> Ogham: No idea on that one.
[08:42] <crazyhorse> ikonia: when i try from another computer anything i type doesn't appear on the nc server
[08:42] <histo> !info postgresql | ShoeBaloo
[08:42] <ikonia> crazyhorse: how are you connecting to port 12345 ?
[08:42] <crazyhorse> by typing "nc 10.0.1.104 12345" on the remote computer
[08:43] <histo> crazyhorse: firewall?
[08:43] <crazyhorse> no firewalls setup
[08:43] <crazyhorse> ohhh
[08:43] <ikonia> thats not how you use it, but the odds are something is blocking you connecting to 12345
[08:43] <ShoeBaloo> !info postgresql | ShoeBaloo
[08:43] <crazyhorse> i'm getting weird results from ping
[08:43] <ikonia> crazyhorse: ping has nothing to do with it
[08:44] <crazyhorse> ikonia: yeah firewall is turned off on both computers
[08:45] <ikonia> crazyhorse: telnet to port 12345 on the remote computer
[08:49] <crazyhorse> wifi routers not giving me an ip
[08:49] <crazyhorse> maybe it's screwing everything up
[08:49] <ikonia> errrr if you don't have an IP you're not on the network
[08:49] <ikonia> that will cause network problems for you
[08:49] <crazyhorse> nah i've got an ip on wireless netowrk
[08:49] <crazyhorse> just not on the wired network
[08:50] <crazyhorse> i'm going to reboot it
[08:50] <crazyhorse> and see if i can ssh from one computer to the other
[08:50] <ikonia> crazyhorse: then why did you see wifi router is not giving you an IP ?]
[08:50] <crazyhorse> i've got no idea why it isin't
[08:50] <ikonia> you've just said you have an IP
[08:50] <ikonia> so you're just contradicting yourself
[08:50] <crazyhorse> WIFI: yes ETHERNET: No
[08:51] <ikonia> crazyhorse: yes, so why would the wifi router give you an ethernet address
[08:51] <ikonia> crazyhorse: the wifi and ethernet are not on the same network/subnet are they ?
[08:51] <crazyhorse> yeah they are
[08:51] <ikonia> why are you trying to get two interfaces on the same network, that's going to screw your routing
[08:51] <crazyhorse> i'll be right back .. need to test just on ethernet
[08:52] <billlpd> lsa
[08:55] <karven> How to clear chat history?
[08:56] <histo> karven: /clear
[08:56] <grahamsavage> ikonia: router has died
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> karven  guess it depends on your irc clinet
[08:56] <histo> karven: depends on your client though
[08:56] <dagerik> is the npm(node.js package manager) package usable? im trying to use it to install express(a JS framework) but im getting errors
[08:57] <grahamsavage> ikonia: i'm guessing that's the cause of these issues
[08:57] <histo> dagerik: there is a node.js channel on freenode
[08:57] <Ogham> Oh my Jeez...
[08:57] <histo> grahamsavage: are you crazyhorse?
[08:58] <karven> thanks
[09:00] <somsip> dagerik: I admin I installed from the PPA recently. Flawless operation so far. Only because repo version of node is about 6.X and PPA is 10.12 But see !PPA
[09:00] <somsip> *admit
[09:02] <karven> Who is administractor?
[09:02] <oliver3> Hey there. Does anybody know if it's possible to override the "Provides" list of a package? I need to install a package that depends on sun-java6-jre, but want to install openjdk-6-jre instead.
[09:03] <dagerik> why doesn't apt-cache show npm show which version of upstream npm is packaged?
[09:04] <blazemore> dagerik: Should it?
[09:04] <dagerik> blazemore: i need to know
[09:04] <dagerik> :)
[09:05] <blazemore> dagerik: What does it say under the "filename" section?
[09:05] <Guest60155> jjds
[09:05] <dagerik> blazemore: Filename: pool/universe/n/npm/npm_1.1.4~dfsg-2_all.deb
[09:05] <histo> dagerik: --no-install-recomends  or something like that.
[09:06] <blazemore> dagerik: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/ that might be of some interest
[09:06] <histo> helps if I could spell. --no-install-recommends
[09:11] <aladdin> how do you run ruby file?
[09:11] <aladdin> i did this chmod +x file
[09:11] <somsip> aladdin: possibly, if you have a valid shebang in it, it should run under the ruby binary
[09:12] <dagerik> blazemore: kthxbye
[09:12]  * Ogham eats 23 cubic fucktons of yellow mold
[09:12] <itc> helo
[09:13] <Industrial> Hi. My Xmodmap keeps resetting. I dont know why. How do I find out?
[09:13] <Industrial> well, the rules for the keyboard keep resetting and I have to do $ xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[09:13] <aladdin> somsip: how do i know if there is valid one?
[09:13] <somsip> Industrial: do you ever swap keyboard layout?
[09:13] <Semen_Dickman> how to uninstall ubuntu and install windows 8??
[09:13] <Industrial> https://gist.github.com/Industrial/dbb3bb272c77afc5c19d
[09:14] <somsip> aladdin: something like #! /bin/ruby on the first line. Or wherever the path to ruby is
[09:14] <Industrial> somsip: no but I keep switching between the VM and my windows host
[09:14] <blazemore> Industrial: Are you using XFCE by any chance?
[09:14] <Semen_Dickman> how to uninstall ubuntu and install windows 8??
[09:14] <somsip> Industrial: hmm. Doesn't reset it here.
[09:14] <blazemore> Semen_Dickman: You don't "uninstall" Ubuntu
[09:14] <Industrial> Windows -> VmWare Player -> Ubuntu -> Dynamic WIndow Manager
[09:14] <blazemore> Semen_Dickman: Just install Windows 8 as normal, and let it nuke your disk
[09:15] <blazemore> Industrial: Do you have any kind of keyboard layout switching applet?
[09:15] <Industrial> no
[09:15] <blazemore> Industrial: Do you have Scim installed?
[09:16] <aladdin> somsip: #!user/bin/ruby that's the start of it
[09:16] <Industrial> it actually works fine in unity
[09:16] <Industrial> just not in another window manager that is not a 'desktop environment'
[09:16] <Semen_Dickman> which is better windows 8 or ubuntu
[09:16] <somsip> aladdin: nope. Try #! /usr/bin/runy
[09:16] <Industrial> blazemore: Scim whats that
[09:16] <blazemore> Industrial: No, then
[09:16] <Semen_Dickman> what are the features of ubuntu than windos 8?
[09:16] <blazemore> Industrial: It's possibly a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1084451
[09:16] <somsip> Semen_Dickman: change your nickname please
[09:17] <blazemore> Semen_Dickman is possibly a channel troll
[09:17] <Industrial> blazemore: ok, thanks ill keep watch :)
[09:17] <blazemore> Industrial: In the mean-time, you could hack around it by setting up a cron-job to run your xmodmap command
[09:17] <Semen_Dickman> fuck you man i choose my real name
[09:17] <Semen_Dickman> fuck you
[09:17] <FloodBot1> Semen_Dickman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <somsip> !ops | troll
[09:17] <aladdin> somsip: ok, one mistake :). let me try it out
[09:20] <somsip> aladdin: you saw my typo? I didn't really mean /usr/bin/runy ...
[09:20] <aladdin> somsip: still not running. plz have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/5800806/
[09:21] <aladdin> #! usr/bin/ruby
[09:21] <aladdin> :)
[09:21] <blazemore> allight: What happens when you just run /usr/bin/ruby on its own?
[09:21] <somsip> aladdin: I have no idea about the script. If ruby is located at /usr/bin/ruby then it should run AFAIK.
[09:22] <aladdin> somsip: AFAIK?
[09:22] <somsip> aladdin: as far as I know. It means I don;t have exhaustive knowledge of ruby
[09:22] <blazemore> I don't think Ruby itsself is the issue here
[09:23] <blazemore> aladdin: What happens when you just run /usr/bin/ruby on its own?
[09:24] <aladdin> blazemore: thinking or stuck.
[09:24] <aladdin> more stuck
[09:24] <aladdin> frozen
[09:24] <markcl> how do i disable nginx so i can enable apache?
[09:26] <blazemore> markcl: chkconfig -s nginx off
[09:26] <aladdin> blazemore: darkness and emptiness, what would it mean?
[09:26] <blazemore> aladdin: Can you type anything in it?
[09:26] <blazemore> Can you execute any ruby commands, for example?
[09:26] <aladdin> blazemore: yep
[09:26] <Snype> Myrtti, whatcha smoking buddy?
[09:27] <blazemore> Right so Ruby is working. What happens when you try to execute your script with ./your_script_name ?
[09:32] <Myalkboy> hi
[09:33] <markcl> hello
[09:34] <FazzaJr> G'day
[09:35] <angs> what GUI program do I need to use to read a binary file?
[09:36] <jatt> emacs
[09:36] <angs> thanks
[09:36] <jatt> you are welcome
[09:36] <geldi> ja
[09:36] <histo> angs: you can use any hex editor
[09:38] <angs> histo, what hex editor would you recommend me to install?
[09:38] <qursk> guys my ubuntu just crashed on last night
[09:38] <qursk> and i booted up by ubuntu live cd
[09:38] <qursk> but i cant see the rescue a broken system
[09:38] <qursk> how can i open that ?
[09:38] <histo> angs: hexedit or xxd  depends on what you are trying to do I guess.
[09:38] <angs> thank you histo
[09:39] <qursk> i wanna recover my crashed system
[09:39] <qursk> but live cd wont list the recover option
[09:39] <blazemore> qursk: That's a very very broad request; it depends how your system "crashed". Is your Ubuntu installation currently unbootable?
[09:39] <qursk> yes
[09:39] <qursk> unbootable
[09:39] <blazemore> What happened?
[09:40] <qursk> i tried to make something on gparted and just because im not an experienced user
[09:40] <qursk> ive done something wrong and after restarting the pc it didnt boot
[09:40] <blazemore> Right.... gparted is included on the LiveCD so you can use that to see what the damage is
[09:40] <blazemore> Do you get an error when you try to boot normally?
[09:40] <qursk> nope
[09:40] <qursk> everything is perfect
[09:40] <qursk> everything was perfecting till last night
[09:40] <qursk> had no any problem
[09:41] <blazemore> Do you get an error when you try to boot normally?
[09:41] <histo> !enter | qursk
[09:41] <blazemore> qursk: What I mean is, if you tried to boot into your normal Ubuntu right now, what would you see? So far all I know is that it won't boot
[09:41] <qursk> I had no problems during my boots it all happened after gparted
[09:42] <qursk> when i want to boot normally all i get is a blank screen with an underscore and cant type anything there
[09:42] <qursk> just a blank screen with underscore thats all i have
[09:42] <itarapc> hai
[09:43] <itarapc> i've a problem in my desktop
[09:43] <blazemore> qursk: What were you trying to do in gparted, and what do you think you might have done by mistake?
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | qursk try this
[09:43] <itarapc> the problem is grub rescue and doesn't mount the partition
[09:43] <blazemore> itarapc: I'm about to post a link which should help both you and qursk
[09:44] <qursk> well ubuntu is installed to hdd in all partition i just wanted to have some parts from ubuntu to install other linux distros but unfortunately i ve done something cant even recall right now caused the crash
[09:44] <itarapc> thank u blazemore
[09:44] <qursk> thanks blazemore
[09:44] <blazemore> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[09:45] <blazemore> That link explains how to reinstall the bootloader (Grub) - qursk it's possible you broke your bootloader by mistake, and itarapc this will almost certainly fix your problem
[09:45] <itarapc> didn't mount the disk but shows in the command of fdisk -l
[09:45] <qursk> how we gonna open the place to type those codes in the link ?
[09:45] <qursk> near Boot: ?
[09:45] <blazemore> qursk: Sorry, from a liveCD
[09:46] <qursk> yes i do have livecd and when i boot from livecd all i get is asking me install ubuntu, try ubuntu without installing etc.
[09:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> edit /etc/default/grub, thedn run update-grub2
[09:46] <blazemore> qursk: try ubuntu
[09:46] <itarapc> to qursk try ubuntu
[09:46] <qursk> oh where will it take me to ?
[09:46] <qursk> into the place where i can right all those command ?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> qursk  to a live session
[09:47] <itarapc> to the liveuser
[09:47] <blazemore> I need to be AFK for an hour or so now
[09:47] <qursk> ok thanks
[09:47] <itarapc> ok qursk
[09:47] <qursk> hope it i can reinstall grub so no more pains cause i really have important docs in my hdd
[09:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> i just remembered that vid card still not work...
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> qursk  important documents should be backupped (backed up?)
[09:49] <Guest61362> ..any UbuntuStudio people here?
[09:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> just edit grub make boot to X
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest61362  #ubuntu-studio
[09:49] <qursk> i had an error for back up on yesterday before i got crash
[09:49] <Guest61362> thanks
[09:50] <qursk> try ubuntu without installing hope this will help me and i ll save all my files to my hdd and reinstall ubuntu again
[09:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> !grub2
[09:50] <qursk> i think i also have problems in repos too causing me problems when i try to install
[09:50] <qursk> updates thats why i have to use terminal when i want to update
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> qursk  while installing, create a separate /home, it will save you a lot of pains
[09:51] <qursk> nope i just have ubuntu installed
[09:51] <qursk> or just /home ?
[09:52] <qursk> MonkeyDust : u mean just /home folder or /dev/sda/home ?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> qursk  you'll see... /home and / and swap on separate partitions
[09:54] <qursk> ok thank you just being curious in which manner will be helpful ?
[09:54] <laurel> does anyone know how to stop/ignore these "join" and "quit" messages,.,.,
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> qursk  with separate /home, you can easily fresh install or reinstall, without touching your personal files
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> laurel  depends on your irc clients
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> client*
[09:55] <qursk> aham i understand its good idea
[09:55] <qursk> thanks monkeydust im very thankful
[09:55] <itarapc> hai guys my pc doesn't show the partition
[09:55] <Jordan_U> MonkeyDust: qursk: Ubuntu's installer allows you to preserve /home/ when re-installing, even without a separate /home/ partition.
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> qursk  good luck, partitioning is the hardest part when learning linux
[09:55] <itarapc> it shows the pac something else
[09:55] <laurel> MonkeyDust: i am using webchat.freenode.net
[09:56] <qursk> i hope i ll be able to reach my files so i can store them and reinstall on home
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> qursk  when you're in the live session, try and backup your personal files to a safe place
[09:57] <itarapc> it shows the pac something else
[09:58] <Jordan_U> itarapc: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and explain what you mean by "doesn't show the partition" (What doesn't? How are you trying to list partitions?) and "it shows the pac something else" (I have no idea what that sentence means).
[09:59] <itarapc> sorry jordan_u when i install the ubuntu with the live cd no hard disks shown
[10:00] <Jordan_U> itarapc: OK. Please run "sudo parted -l" in the terminal and post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post a link to that here.
[10:00] <Jordan_U> itarapc: I also still don't understand what "it shows the pac something else" means.
[10:05] <itarapc> jordan_u: it is not pac it's PDC-EBAFBHFTAJ1
[10:06] <itarapc> the partition windows has only these pdc-ebafbhftaj1 & pdc-ebafbhftaj
[10:06] <itarapc> jordan-u: the partition windows has only these pdc-ebafbhftaj1 & pdc-ebafbhftaj
[10:08] <itarapc> jordan r u there?
[10:09] <leehambley> this might sound insane, I'm not sure - but I need to modify a netinst image to reformat a hard disk using lvm and unpack a tarball (part of integration testing an OS bootstrapping procedure) - does anyone know if the initrd buxybox has the tools for working iwth lvm ?
[10:10] <Jordan_U> itarapc: Yes.
[10:11] <Jordan_U> itarapc: Are you still working on getting the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[10:14] <tears> Hey I know this is off topic but spread the word "Stop the Elephant Slaughter in Kenya."  Sign the petition here: http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Stop_the_Elephant_Slaughter_in_Kenya/?cZQPZeb
[10:15] <Jordan_U> tears: Since you know it's offtopic you shouldn't post it. Please don't do so again.
[10:15] <hadifarnoud> I limited access to SSH port and port 10000 and 20000 by an specific IP. it was all working well. after restart, I cannot connect to SSH with that IP. this is my iptables. http://pastebin.com/F1JNgw6w any idea?
[10:15] <nasir> hi am new to xubuntu.
[10:15] <tears> Jordan_U It's a good cause. Anyway thank you.
[10:16] <Jordan_U> tears: It doesn't matter how good the cause is, this channel is for Ubuntu support discussion only.
[10:17] <tears> Jordan_U Okay. I'm out.
[10:18] <san-d-wich> Im looking for a remote desktop program for Ubuntu. I already use Remmina that came with Ubuntu but I want to be able to connect to Dameware servers.
[10:18] <somsip> hadifarnoud: IIRC it's recommended to keep ports for system services below 1024
[10:19] <hadifarnoud> somsip: they are virtualmin ports. I limited SSH port by IP address. i.e I can connect from home only. see my iptables
[10:20] <Jordan_U> hadifarnoud: Is sshd listening on those ports? (check "netstat -l")
[10:20] <somsip> hadifarnoud: irrespective of the advice that it is not worth doing, read the last paragraph of the answer with 49 votes http://is.gd/kjOZ45
[10:22] <hadifarnoud> Jordan_U: no. SSH port has not changed. I limited ssh access to my IP address only. I did the same for port 10000 and 20000 which are virtualmin ports
[10:22] <hadifarnoud> looks like I didn't explain it well.
[10:23] <Guest61362> ...noone responded in #ubuntu ppc
[10:23] <Guest61362> any ppc people here?
[10:24] <hadifarnoud> I limited access to SSH port to my IP address. I saved the rules and rebooted. after iptables restore, even I can't access ssh port. is the order of my iptables rules wrong? http://pastebin.com/F1JNgw6w
[10:25] <Guest61362> <---running ubuntustudio with no lag
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !ppc
[10:26] <zooz> is there a way to set environment variables for pbuilder process which runs in a chroot environment when building packages?
[10:27] <j31> hey, where is the system-wide default locale set? (I guess a user usually doesn't set its locale, right?)
[10:27] <Guest61362> <--has several pppc versions of ubuntu, none will install because of my geoforce 6600 issues mac g5
[10:27] <Guest61362> waiting for the ubuntuppc channel to perk up
[10:27] <gnuyoga> zooz: have u tried setting up in /etc/devscripts.conf  or in  ~/.devscripts
[10:28] <zooz> gnuyoga, no, /me is looking what devscripts is
[10:28] <gnuyoga> zooz: this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto will be handy for you
[10:29] <Guest61362> <---got eclipse and eclipse parallel working this evening
[10:30] <Guest61362> gnuyoga...should the ubuntuppc channel get hopping later this morning..or should I wait until the afternoon?
[10:32] <hadifarnoud> I limited access to SSH port to my IP address. I saved the rules and rebooted. after iptables restore, even I can't access ssh port. is the order of my iptables rules wrong? http://pastebin.com/F1JNgw6w
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest61362  type /msg alis list *ppc* to know which channels are available      <-- that's with the asterisks
[10:34] <RajeevK> FloodBot1: Hi
[10:34] <Guest61362> ...thanks monkeydust
[10:35] <Guest61362> ...already logged into ubuntuppc...noone responsing
[10:35] <Guest61362> responding
[10:35] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: don't see a rule for ssh port
[10:35] <Guest61362> hi Rajeevk
[10:36] <RajeevK> Guest61362: Hello
[10:36] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: you can see the rule for port 10000. right?
[10:36] <hadifarnoud> that doesn't work either.
[10:36] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: u r running it in 10000 ?
[10:36] <Guest61362> gnuyoga..did you see my question?
[10:37] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: not SSH. but I limited that port by IP too. that's Virtualmin port
[10:38] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: few questions, u r running ur SSH in 22 right or in a different port ?
[10:38] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: 22
[10:38] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: and u want to limit the access to port 22 by a certain IP ?
[10:39] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: yes. for SSH and Virtualmin ports (10000 and 20000)
[10:40] <Eze_> i need the spanish channel
[10:41] <sharpshooter> hi, folks what is virtual temperature in linux ?
[10:41] <Guest61362> google it
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> !google | Guest61362
[10:42] <Guest61362> please ask gnuyoga if he can answer my question
[10:43] <k1l> !spanish | Eze_
[10:43] <sharpshooter> Guest61362:  Now am here not in google i love IRC
[10:43] <Eze_> Thx ubottu
[10:43] <hadifarnoud> Guest61362: patience is the name of the game. people eventually answer but if you don't have the patience, ask on StackExchange
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> Guest61362  repeat your question every 10-15 minutes and wait until someone enters who knows the answer
[10:44] <k1l> !patience | Guest61362
[10:44] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: and ur virtual min port 10000 is mapped to ur ssh 22 right ?
[10:45] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: no. I just wanted to limit these ports by IP
[10:45] <k1l> Guest61362: see the other places mentioned to ask a question. ppc is not that common nowadays
[10:45]  * gnuyoga is  :( 
[10:45] <Guest61362> if you know Monkeydust..tell me,,,does ubuntuppc channel become more active this morning (9pm cst)..or should I come back after 3 pm cst?
[10:46] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: I guess my FQDN doesn't work. I could ssh if I use server IP instead of FQDN :)
[10:46] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: do a dig on ur FQDN then
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest61362  i'm unfamiliar with ppc, maybe someone else knows better
[10:46] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: perhaps its resolving to a different IP
[10:47] <hadifarnoud> gnuyoga: thanks. I think PSAD is to blame
[10:47] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: as far as iptables is concerned it works on IP layer
[10:47] <Guest61362> well thank you for a quick answer ;  )
[10:47] <gnuyoga> hadifarnoud: okies
[10:47] <Guest61362> noone there yet
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest61362  linux is not mainstream and ppc is also uncommon, i guess you won't find much support
[10:48] <Guest61362> <---is patient, but the blogs on Ubuntu can get confusing
[10:49] <Guest61362> I did get Crux ppc working on my mac g5..but no gui
[10:50] <Guest61362> <--on an intel box now....running ubuntu studio
[10:51] <Guest61362> latency version is nice
[10:52] <zooz> gnuyoga, devscipts does not seem to help
[10:53] <r0uh> #leave
[10:53] <itarapc> Jordan_u: yes but it shows the current partition not the earlier one?
[10:54] <gnuyoga> zooz: u might have to get out of the session and start the session again to have the env variables take effect
[10:55] <sharpshooter> i installed psensor in my ubuntu 13.04 it show that  lmsensor acpitz-virtual-0 temp5 is 100%
[10:55] <zooz> the problem I am having is that when pbuilder executes debian/rules instructions
[10:55] <zooz> gnuyoga, it does not see env vars I set
[10:56] <compdoc> sharpshooter, not all temps being reported are correct. In the bios, are the temperatures that are listed there normal?
[10:56] <Guest61362> sharpshooter is that a cpu temp sensor..or a gpu temp sensor?
[10:57] <sharpshooter> compdoc:  the cpu core 1 and cpu core 2 are correct  it is arround 50-55
[10:58] <gnuyoga> zooz: http://d.pr/n/pVHv
[10:59] <sharpshooter> Guest61362:  i am not sure abt that but am using hp 550 and my its is using intel 965GME/GLEx86/MMX/SSE2 graphics
[10:59] <zooz> gnuyoga, right, but this is for the outside of fakeroot environment
[10:59] <zooz> gnuyoga, I need to set env variables inside a chroot env pbuilder creates when building packages
[11:00] <sharpshooter> Guest61362:  i am confused abt the virtual temp what is that ?
[11:00] <gnuyoga> zooz: ohhhhhh, i was thinking the other way around
[11:00] <zooz> I am not very familiar with makefiles
[11:00] <zooz> should I be setting env variables inside debian/rules
[11:00] <zooz> or somewhere esle?
[11:01] <columb> Somehow I removed my intel audio card from  "Play sound through" list. How can I get it back? :(
[11:04] <puff> I am using a 13.4 live Cd, but it can't seem to find ddrescue. "sudo apt-cache search ddrescue" returns nothing, "sudo apt-cache search gddrescue" returns nothing.  Did ddrescue get removed?
[11:04] <gnuyoga> zooz: this will help https://blog.theroux.ca/devel/how-to-build-packages-using-pbuilder-on-ubuntu-or-debian-for-beginners/
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> puff  no, it's there; apt-cache does not require sudo
[11:05] <puff> MonkeyDust: Okay, so if it's there, how do I get it?
[11:06] <zooz> gnuyoga, that part is pretty clear
[11:06] <Iszak> How can I proxy all my traffic through my server (ubuntu 12.04) ?
[11:06] <zooz> but thanks
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> puff  sudo apt-get install gddrescue should do
[11:06] <puff> MonkeyDust: I already tried that, got E: Unable to locate package gddrescue
[11:06] <Spainal> Hi
[11:06] <Spainal> all
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> puff  sudo apt-get update, then try again
[11:07] <puff> MonkeyDust: I just update.
[11:07] <puff> MonkeyDust: (right before I tried sudo apt-get install gddrescue).
[11:08] <puff> Software center can't find  it either.
[11:08] <Spainal> Good day do not tell me the names of Russian channel?
[11:09] <Guest61362> hi Spainal
[11:09] <histo> !info gddrescue | puff
[11:09]  * Ogham overdoses on yellow mold
[11:09] <Spainal> привет
[11:09]  * Ogham is no more....
[11:09] <histo> puff: enable the universe repo
[11:10] <puff> Ah...
[11:10] <puff> histo: Thanks. Don't know why that didn't occur to me.
[11:10] <itarapc> Jordan_u: r u thr?
[11:11] <Spainal> Guest61362 не подскажешь где тут Русский канал для Ubuntu
[11:11] <Guest61362> Spainal...you know anything about Ukrainian diodes?
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:11] <Spainal> Guest61362 not prompt where is the Russian channel for Ubuntu
[11:12] <Spainal> Guest61362 diodes?why should you?
[11:12] <Guest61362> ...gee the cyrillic works good in Ubuntu
[11:13] <Guest61362> <---bought 300 GHz Ukrainian diodes on eBay
[11:13] <histo> puff: are you sure you need gddrescue ?
[11:13] <Spainal> I do not understand you =))))
[11:13] <k1l> !ot | Guest61362
[11:14] <k1l> Spainal: "/join #ubuntu-ru"   to join the russian channel
[11:14] <Guest61362> ...ubottu....just making small talk...there is no ubuntu -ru channel is there?
[11:14] <Spainal> thank you
[11:14] <puff> histo: I'm backing up some partitions.
[11:14] <Guest61362> unless he made one
[11:14] <histo> puff: well gddrescue can only copy to another block device btw.  Also if you are not trying to recover data I would just use dd
[11:14] <k1l> Guest61362: lets stick to technical support in here. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic and there is a #ubunturu channel
[11:14] <puff> histo: So technically, no, since the drive isn't failing.  But I like the dd_rescue log and being able to interrupt and resume.  Is there a drawback to using dd_rescue this way?
[11:15] <histo> puff: dd should already be installed.
[11:15] <histo> puff: gddrescue isn't dd_rescue
[11:15] <Guest61362> ...okies
[11:15] <puff> histo: Right, ddrescue, not dd_rescue.  I always get those two confused.
[11:16] <histo> puff: the dd_rescue that can write to images is the "ddrescue" package.  gddrescue is an entirely different animal. For what you want to do dd would be fine and it's already installed.
[11:16] <histo> puff: the one disadvantage would be that I don't believe you can change the default block size with gddrescue or dd_rescue
[11:17] <histo> puff: which would slow things down considerably
[11:17] <Guest61362> ..anyone here seen any good Linus videos?  There were some on linux.com
[11:18] <histo> Guest61362: does this have anything to do with #ubuntu?
[11:18] <puff> histo: I've never done anything with block size in dd or ddrescue, I just do a brute force backup of the partition to a file on an external drive.
[11:18] <Guest61362> "Linus Torvalds on Ubuntu"?
[11:18] <k1l> Guest61362: last time now: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for not technical ubuntu support. so please stop the offtopic in here
[11:18] <Guest61362> <---going to offtopic
[11:18] <histo> puff: well dd bs=1M if=/dev/of/device of=/path/to/output.img  Would be a lot faster
[11:19] <Spainal> "/join #ubuntu-ru" ???
[11:19] <puff> histo: Cool.  The external drive is connected via esata, fwiw.
[11:19] <k1l> Spainal: just type in without the "
[11:19] <Spainal> Ok
[11:20] <puff> histo: I'll try the bs=1M parameter.
[11:20] <Spainal> #ubuntu-ru Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services =((((
[11:20] <histo> !register | Spainal
[11:21] <Guest61362> <---waiting in ubuntu-offtopic
[11:31] <bobek_balinek> hi
[11:31] <satyaKOL> hi
[11:31] <bobek_balinek> i have a little problem with my ubuntu server
[11:31] <histo> !problem | bobek_balinek
[11:31] <bobek_balinek> and no online forum seemed to resolve it
[11:33] <bobek_balinek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/174710/sbin-getty-process-causing-100-cpu-utilization this happened to me, when traced the process I get an infinitely logged phrase:  read(0, "", 1) = 0
[11:33] <bobek_balinek> killing the process doesn't help, it respawns and been running for 14 hours now (i was asleep)
[11:35] <sharad> hi
[11:39] <columb> Bump. Still no idea how do I restore my intel audio card in "Play sound trough" list.
[11:40] <histo> !sound | columb
[11:41] <columb> histo, I lost it after trying to get work another audio card. But seems like it's goes bad with ubuntu.
[11:42] <Senor> How can I cancel those irrelevant process initialize at  system startup ?
[11:43] <BluesKaj_> Howdy all
[11:43] <histo> columb: does sudo aplay -l   show your card?
[11:44] <columb> No.
[11:44] <columb> Hello BluesKaj_.
[11:44] <BluesKaj_> hi columb
[11:45] <histo> columb: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[11:45] <columb> histo, yeap, it's here.
[11:45] <histo> columb: but it's not being listed by aplay?
[11:45] <columb> Yes.
[11:46] <smallmouse> can someone help with touchpad issues on laptop
[11:46] <histo> columb: lspci -k | grep -A3 -i "audio"
[11:47] <histo> columb: what kernel driver is listed?
[11:47] <smallmouse> also suspend mode - can someone tell me what this means ? will my battery continue to be used in suspend mode ?
[11:47] <histo> smallmouse: yes
[11:47] <histo> smallmouse: your batter is used in suspend mode but not hibernate mode
[11:47] <smallmouse> is there a mode which i can freeze everything and shut down
[11:47] <smallmouse> but not close all the applications
[11:47] <histo> smallmouse: that would be hibernate
[11:47] <Sempuh> or turn off
[11:47] <histo> !touchpad | smallmouse
[11:48] <smallmouse> histo: i cant see hibernate on here just lock log out suspend
[11:48] <smallmouse> histo: where is hibernate
[11:48] <columb> histo, http://pastebin.com/nunNjSip
[11:49] <columb> System currently only shows CA0106. But it's better for me to use Intel audio card.
[11:49] <appi_uppi> I am using hpn patched ssh and trying to transfer files using the command rsync -aPv -e "ssh -o NoneSwitch=yes -o NoneEnabled=yes" /tmp/testhpnpatch  username@hpndestination:/tmp/”. But it's failing with the error message "command-line: line 0: Bad configuration option: NoneSwitch rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [sender=3.0.7]"
[11:49] <appi_uppi> appreciate any help
[11:49] <histo> columb: pastebin the output of sudo aplay -l
[11:50] <columb> histo, http://pastebin.com/zM5t654z
[11:51] <histo> appi_uppi: try rsync -aPv /tmp/testhpnpatch username@hpdnestination:/tmp/
[11:52] <histo> columb: so you don't wish to use the creative labs card?
[11:52] <appi_uppi> histo: that works fine.. but I wanna use those ssh options
[11:52] <appi_uppi> histo: check this https://wiki.xkyle.com/HPN-SSH_With_The_None_Cipher
[11:52] <histo> appi_uppi: well according to your error NoneSwitch isn't an option
[11:53] <appi_uppi> histo: but that works fine in rhel
[11:53] <columb> histo, yes. It took me about 6 hours to make it work. But after all it's now randomly speed ups audio and I have no idea what to do with it. So I would like to use Intel
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> appi_uppi  man ssh does not show noneswitch
[11:53] <histo> appi_uppi: did you add the NoneEnabled to your sshd config?
[11:54] <appi_uppi> yup
[11:54] <histo> appi_uppi: are you using HPN-SSH
[11:54] <appi_uppi> histo: all setup done according to http://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh
[11:54] <appi_uppi> histo: yes
[11:54] <histo> appi_uppi: then I would contact the author fo the hpn-ssh
[11:54] <appi_uppi> histo: as i said.. it works fine in redhat.. but not sure.. why it fails in ubuntu
[11:55] <histo> columb: sudo rmmod snd-ca0106  then does aplay -l show the intel card?
[11:56] <columb> histo, no, it's still same.
[11:56] <LBMS> sex
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> appi_uppi  because ubuntu does not include this hpn-ssh thing
[11:57] <histo> columb: lsmod | grep "snd-ca0106"
[11:57] <histo> LBMS: /topic
[11:58] <columb> histo, no output.
[11:58] <mikalk> Hi , just installed Raring Tail ,
[11:58] <histo> columb: then please post a new pastebin of sudo aplay -l
[11:58] <appi_uppi> MonkeyDust: but scp works MonkeyDust
[11:59] <mikalk> Fusion Icon is not working, someone experienced the same issue (seg fault)?
[11:59] <columb> histo, http://pastebin.com/eteEwg3e
[11:59] <appi_uppi> MonkeyDust: i used this command scp -o NoneSwitch=yes -o NoneEnabled=yes /tmp/test.file  root@dst:/tmp/test.file
[11:59] <appi_uppi> MonkeyDust: and as per the link.. https://wiki.xkyle.com/HPN-SSH_With_The_None_Cipher.. i got the message WARNING: ENABLED NONE CIPHER test.file
[12:00] <appi_uppi> MonkeyDust: not sure why rsync fails
[12:00] <histo> columb: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel && sudo aplay -l    Please pastebin the output of that.
[12:00] <columb> sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel && sudo aplay -l
[12:00] <columb> Whoops.
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> appi_uppi  it looks like noneswitch is a scp option, not a rsync option
[12:01] <columb> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:02] <histo> columb: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel && sudo aplay -l    Please pastebin the output of that.
[12:02] <stardust42> hey, I have a quick question. Is this the best and latest nvidia driver? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-319.32-driver.html
[12:03] <histo> columb: if it errors just sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel && sudo aplay -l
[12:03] <columb> histo, http://pastebin.com/gNvDDzwW
[12:03] <histo> columb: yeah just sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel && sudo aplay -l
[12:03] <appi_uppi> MonkeyDust: please have look at this link.. http://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh/640
[12:03] <histo> stardust42: not necessarily the best but it's probably the latest.
[12:03] <histo> stardust42: use the nvidia driver in the repo.
[12:04] <columb> histo, http://pastebin.com/xqX8yRGN
[12:04] <histo> !nvidia > stardust42
[12:06] <histo> appi_uppi: you realize how little cpu usage there is over ssh encryption right?
[12:06] <stardust42> histo: alright thanks, I'll look into that
[12:06] <appi_uppi> histo: yeah
[12:06] <histo> columb: now you should be able to select the intel card
[12:06] <histo> appi_uppi: then why are you so interested in the NoneSwitch?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> appi_uppi  then maybe your question should be: "how can I use hpn-ssh in ubuntu?" post it on a forum or so
[12:08] <histo> appi_uppi: I would email hpn-ssh@psc.edu  as the FAQ page you pasted suggests
[12:08] <appi_uppi> histo: have done :)
[12:08] <histo> appi_uppi: k
[12:08] <appi_uppi> MonkeyDust: sure..
[12:09] <columb> histo, thanks. At least there is "Built-in Audio" now.
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> appi_uppi  or even "is it possible to use hpn-ssh in ubuntu?"
[12:09] <appi_uppi> histo: and MonkeyDust  Thanks for your suggession
[12:09] <histo> columb: the snd_hda_intel module wasn't loaded
[12:10] <histo> columb: make sure it's not blacklisted from whatever you were trying before... grep "snd_hda_intel" /etc/modprobe.d/*
[12:11] <columb> No output. And it works. But I can't select 5.1 :(
[12:12] <BluesKaj_> columb, to make your intel audio driver loading stick , add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , options snd-hda-intel index=0
[12:12] <histo> columb: no output is good.  Make sure you don't have the digital selected for output you won't be able to do 5.1
[12:16] <BluesKaj_> columb, digital/spdif out is for audio receivers/amplifiers or devices in audio systes that are equipped to convert digital audio to analog
[12:19] <zooz> is there a a channel for ubuntu dev, for packaging issues specifically?
[12:20] <Pici> zooz: #ubuntu-packaging
[12:20] <zooz> thanks
[12:20] <columb> histo, it's analog. But I can't select 5.1 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27770548/t/au.png
[12:22] <histo> columb: Is it capable of 5.1?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> zooz  or #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:25] <BluesKaj_> columb, real 5.1 is Dolby Digital or DTS digital stream which requires a separate soundsystem , the settings on your speaker system usually determine how the sound is directed to the connected speakers
[12:27] <BluesKaj_> columb, try the Soundblaster option
[12:28] <myalkboy> hi
[12:28] <columb> BluesKaj_, I don't want to touch it. It randomly speed ups audio.
[12:28] <BluesKaj_> then your driver is faulty
[12:29] <columb> Seems like intel ALC1200 does not support 5.1.
[12:30] <columb> e.g. uses only 2 speakers out of 6.
[12:33] <columb> Is there a way to force it to use all speakers?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> columb  maybe the people in #ubuntu-studio can help better
[12:37] <BluesKaj_> columb, look at the speaker connection options on the subwoofer amp
[12:37] <columb> Where subwoofer amp is?
[12:39] <Pici> columb: Where do the wires out of your computer to the speakers go?
[12:44] <lemmy> Hi, I'm a little lost. My machine requests an IP addr for eth0 right after unlocking the crypted disk which breaks my bonding setup (eth0 is supposed to be a slave for bond0). I can't figure out how to prevent eth0 from requesting and subsequently receiving an IP.
[12:46] <lemmy> I'm on 12.10
[12:48] <Magentium> Allo Allo Ubuntu Users!
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> lemmy  is this useful http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/howto-do-ethernet-bonding-on-ubuntu-properly
[12:52] <cloneG> hello the bongos sound at start up are missing! I followed this thread and it restored the welcome sound but not the bongos: Dash/Applications/Startup Applications
[12:52] <cloneG> Click on Add
[12:52] <cloneG> Name:Startup Sound
[12:52] <cloneG> Command:/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login sound"
[12:52] <cloneG> Click on Add and Close
[12:52] <FloodBot1> cloneG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <cloneG> Reboot PC
[12:52] <lemmy> MonkeyDust: I've been using my bonding setup on my old laptop (also 12.10) for quite a while without problems. If I manually remove all devices, reload the eth driver and start networking then, it correctly comes up.
[12:52] <lemmy> MonkeyDust: So I doubt that my interfaces config is broken.
[12:54] <cloneG> the bongos sound is missing I restored the welcome sound doing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801409/ but the bongos are still missing
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> lemmy  if your question is beyond this channel, try ##networking
[12:55] <cloneG> and one more question...which is the difference between $ sudo su and $ sudo -s ?
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> columb, the wires connected to the speakers , they're on the subwoofewr , right? ...look there for options
[12:56] <jrib> cloneG: I suggest you just use « sudo -i » if you need a root shell.  It will properly reset the environment.  As for your question, there isn't much difference that I am aware of except for the first one probably calling an extra process
[12:57] <columb> Aww. Can't find my subwoofer remote control.
[12:57] <columb> Oh. Found it.
[12:57] <cloneG> jrib what do you mean with an extra process?
[12:58] <jrib> cloneG: think "bash -c bash" vs "bash"
[12:58] <cloneG> jrib that is to say a duplicate
[12:59] <jrib> cloneG: no
[13:04] <jml> hello
[13:04] <jml> an acquaintance of mine is having trouble UEFI issues with 13.04. he's asked a question on askubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/312927/booting-13-04-64-bit-pendrive-in-uefi-freezes-immediately-after-loading-ramdisk
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | jml start here
[13:06] <benedikt> How can I change ubuntu's default mountpoints away from /media (preferrably to /mnt). I want to use /media for something else
[13:07] <histo> benedikt: media should be used btw for removable media
[13:07] <Ramsrambo> need driver for soundblaster card
[13:08] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, run sudo aplay -l , pastebin the output
[13:11] <A1Recon> VLC is not working properly. I cannot see the seek bar and the other functions and not even the "File Edit View Tools" on the top..... Any suggestions??
[13:11] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/rjnK1AeT
[13:11] <bfly2000> hey has anyone had a problem with their X server trying to be started with a -mir option?
[13:11] <bfly2000> where exactly is the line that runs the X server on boot?
[13:11] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: I think it has installed the driver correctly
[13:12] <zorael> Does anyone know of a software tp cable tester, preferably in the repos?
[13:12] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : but the DTS sign is gone on my amplifier
[13:13] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: also the o/p of audio is not good as it was earlier
[13:13] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: ever since I installed latest ver of Ubuntu 12
[13:15] <A1Recon> VLC is not working properly. I cannot see the seek bar and the other functions and not even the "File Edit View Tools" on the top..... Any suggestions??
[13:15] <ehhh> hey guys, i just rebooted my computer and i end up on a error thing with the title "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get into ubuntu again
[13:15] <meowlulzcat> computer says no
[13:15] <histo> benedikt: I believe that's hardcoded into udisks2 I don't think you can change it
[13:15] <bfly2000> @ehhh same with me
[13:15] <bfly2000> its because X server is being run with -mir, which is unrecognized
[13:15] <ehhh> do you know a solution?
[13:16] <bfly2000> but im not sure where the actual line is in the boot files, so idk how to fix it
[13:16] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_:  what is gone wrong ???
[13:16] <histo> BluesKaj_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:16] <bfly2000> check your lightdm log, i get it will say something about -mir
[13:16] <bfly2000> 13.04
[13:16] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo,have you just updated/upgraded?
[13:16] <ehhh> it's ridiculous i get the option to reconfigure the graphics, troubleshoot and run in low-graphics mode and none of it works :/
[13:17] <bfly2000> yeah its because the problem is X server never gets to start
[13:17] <ehhh> can i launch the x server manually in the terminal?
[13:17] <reisio> yes
[13:17] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: nope it is been a while I upgraded , I only changed the unity front interface to gnome
[13:17] <bfly2000> does anybody know where the actual X server command is run during boot?
[13:17] <jrib> bfly2000: why?
[13:18] <bfly2000> because i need to find out where the -mir option is being added
[13:18] <bfly2000> idk how else to fix the problem :/
[13:18] <jrib> bfly2000: what ubuntu version?
[13:18] <bfly2000> 13.04
[13:18] <ehhh> reisio : how? (if you replied to me)
[13:18] <c3f59> eeeh: usually with startx
[13:18] <ehhh> lets see
[13:19] <reisio> ehhh: you don't have a login manager running?
[13:19] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : earlier I use to get the DTS sign on my amplifier since I hv connected the sound card thru TOSLINK fiber cable
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, were you using the onboar4d or the usb card ?
[13:19] <jrib> bfly2000: since you installed, has your X ever worked?
[13:19] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : for better sound receiption
[13:19] <ehhh> reisio: everything was working fine but i put my computer in suspend yesterday then i woke it today and the background was messed up, then i rebooted and ended up with this error screen
[13:19] <bfly2000> yes, i didnt do any changes other htan a standard ubuntu update
[13:19] <bfly2000> and then a restart
[13:20] <bfly2000> its been working fine for months
[13:20] <jrib> bfly2000: you don't have any PPAs, third-party repositories, or repositories not meant for 13.04?
[13:20] <bfly2000> i doubt it
[13:20] <jrib> bfly2000: check?
[13:20] <bfly2000> how?
[13:20] <bfly2000> is there an autmated way?
[13:21] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: also I wanted my amp to be connected to the PC so that I can play all format of audio and video
[13:21] <jrib> bfly2000: also, can you pastebin the lighdm log you were referencing before?  You can pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update » though that won't show any repositories you used to have enabled that you no longer do
[13:21] <reisio> ehhh: which error screen?
[13:21] <ehhh> reisio: a window saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode"
[13:22] <reisio> ehhh: sure you hadn't just updated the software somehow?
[13:22] <bfly2000> @jrib heres the lightdm log http://pastebin.com/npueNkva
[13:22] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: do you think there is some problem with the driver that is currently on my PC
[13:22] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, yes i'm, aware of that , youare using a usb outboard audio sound card with optical digital output , correct ?
[13:22] <bfly2000> line 28 is the notable one
[13:23] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: perfect
[13:23] <jrib> bfly2000: apt-cache policy lightdm
[13:23] <ehhh> reisio: yes i'm sure, i didn't mess with the drivers at all since i'm running 12.04 because if i try to upgrade the graphics won't work at all
[13:23] <histo> ehhh: which graphics card do you have?
[13:23] <ehhh> histo: nvidia
[13:23] <bfly2000> lightdm:
[13:23] <bfly2000>   Installed: 1.7.3bzr1630raring0.75
[13:23] <bfly2000>   Candidate: 1.7.3bzr1630raring0.75
[13:23] <bfly2000>   Version table:
[13:23] <bfly2000>  *** 1.7.3bzr1630raring0.75 0
[13:23] <FloodBot1> bfly2000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <bfly2000>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mir-team/staging/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[13:24] <jrib> bfly2000: there you go.  This is not from 13.04 repositories
[13:24] <histo> !nvidia | ehhh
[13:25] <bfly2000> yeah weird, is there an easy way to revert?
[13:25] <jrib> bfly2000: this is something you enabled, it shouldn't be weird.  You can try to downgrade but it may not work
[13:25] <jrib> !ppa-purge | bfly2000
[13:27] <histo> bfly2000: and this is why ppa's aren't supported
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, try this , sudo gstreamer-properties, a GUI will open. After configuring a reboot may be in order
[13:28] <bfly2000> thanks @rambo and @histo
[13:28] <bfly2000> thanks @jrib and @histo
[13:28] <lemmy> MonkeyDust: Thx for your help. It was caused by dropbear who configured networking as part of initramfs to support remotely unlocking encrypted disks.
[13:29] <Ramsrambo> BluesKay_: the plugin is autodetect change it to waht
[13:29] <apm1> with the changed support schedule will the 14.04 release still be a 5 year LTS and is expected in april 2014 ?
[13:30] <apm1> when i say "changed support schedule" i am referring to the 8 month support cycles for non lts ones
[13:30] <blazemore> apm1: Yes and yes according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[13:30] <apm1> ok thanks :)
[13:31] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, what are your options
[13:32] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : let me experiment with it and come back here latter
[13:38] <bfly2000> @jrib after remove and updating, the upgrade had staged some lightdm changes, but then i removed the xorg-edgers ppa (which i had installed to see if it would fix the previous problem) and after the update, all the staged changes were gone, is there any way to force them now that ive removed the ppa's ?
[13:39] <jrib> bfly2000: what do you mean by "remove"?
[13:39] <bfly2000> through the software center
[13:39] <jrib> bfly2000: you did not use ppa-purge?
[13:39] <bfly2000> @jrib, i thought it was the same thing, and that software center was a frontend
[13:40] <bfly2000> @jrib should i just re-add them? and then ppa-purge?
[13:40] <liquidstone> when i try to install wine i get this:
[13:40] <liquidstone> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[13:40] <liquidstone> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[13:40] <liquidstone> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[13:40] <liquidstone> or been moved out of Incoming.
[13:40] <liquidstone> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[13:40] <FloodBot1> liquidstone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <hje841> how do I install a g77 fortran compiler in ubuntu 12.04?
[13:40] <jrib> bfly2000: it's not.  Removing a ppa in software center will just make its packages no longer available but it won't try to downgrade if you have already installed things from it.  And the ppa responsible for lightdm was the mir one (though maybe you want to remove xorg-edgers too)
[13:41] <liquidstone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801503/
[13:41] <bfly2000> so to rectify, i should re-add them as ppa's and hten purge?
[13:41] <jrib> liquidstone: you need to give full input and full output.  Then describe what you are trying to do when you link to it
[13:41] <jrib> bfly2000: yes
[13:41] <Agent86> hi people
[13:42] <liquidstone> jrib: i tried to install wine
[13:42] <jrib> bfly2000: keep in mind downgrading isn't supported, so be prepared if things go horribly wrong...
[13:42] <liquidstone> and i got this
[13:42] <jrib> liquidstone: you need to give full input and full output in your pastebin
[13:43] <Agent86> quick question about bash scripts that call a python script
[13:43] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/g1fy8thF
[13:43] <Agent86> my script calls the python script when running it manually, but when I create a .destkop item and call either the bash or the python script it stops at the python parts when executed
[13:44] <jrib> liquidstone: output of « uname -m; dpkg --print-foreign-architectures »
[13:44] <liquidstone> uname: x86_64
[13:44] <jrib> Agent86: i suggest pastebinning the actual files
[13:44] <Agent86> Ok
[13:45] <liquidstone> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures: i386
[13:45] <jrib> liquidstone: run « sudo apt-get update » and then pastebin (not in channel) the output of apt-cache policy wine1.6
[13:46] <Agent86> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2156836  Here is the forum post I posted about it with pastebin links to it also
[13:46] <Agent86> the first file is simple bash script with one line for the notify-send command
[13:47] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/CXfnRZyX
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[13:47] <jrib> liquidstone: « sudo apt-get install wine1.6 », pastebin output
[13:47] <Agent86> second line is call to python script.  and finally simply make a .desktop item so I can call the bash script when the device it plugged in
[13:48] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/vGSdRbMQ
[13:48] <Agent86> mostly direct and simple. The script runs,  but the python part does not. However I can manually run the script and the python part runs perfectly
[13:48] <jrib> liquidstone: have you tried giving the full path to usb_devices.py?
[13:49] <liquidstone> im not familiar with that
[13:49] <jrib> erm, wrong nick
[13:49] <jrib> Agent86: have you tried giving the full path to usb_devices.py?
[13:49] <Agent86> yes full path etc.
[13:50] <ehhh> ok this is getting ridiculous, i even tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but i just get "unable to fettch some archives" when i try that
[13:50] <Agent86> but it runs as it should if I type in the console bash usb-copy.sh
[13:50] <jrib> Agent86: you don't have full path in what you have pasted though
[13:50] <Snype> Myrtti, whatcha smoking buddy?
[13:50] <jrib> liquidstone: apt-cache policy wine1.6-i386
[13:50] <Agent86> true I don't have the full path there pasted. I'll edit it again but I did that a bunch of times with no effect. And it runs from the consol. wouldn't it have a problem running it manually if there was a problem with the path ?
[13:51] <Agent86> Just curious
[13:51] <Snype> but it is not the recommended way Agent86
[13:51] <Agent86> ok so maybe I have the full path wrong I'll repost it
[13:51] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/hHVU0ZuS
[13:51] <jrib> Agent86: not if when you run it in a console you happen to be in the correct directory
[13:51] <Snype> that would be best Agent86
[13:51] <jrib> Snype: stop or leave
[13:51] <Snype> stop what?
[13:51] <jrib> Snype: you know what.  No more warnings.
[13:52] <Snype> i dont get it
[13:52] <Agent86> but thats why i put the ls or pwd in there too so I could see the path it seemed ok
[13:52] <Agent86> wut ? what happened ?
[13:52] <jrib> Agent86: hmm?
[13:53] <ehhh> i'm considering trying debian instead since ubuntu is just failing on me, it's probably the 20th time i just end up with nothing working, in two days . . .
[13:53] <jrib> liquidstone: what happens when you try to install wine1.6-i386 then? sudo apt-get install wine1.6-i386
[13:54] <Izual> Hey, I have just created some modules and would like to load them with insmod. I create a folder under /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/.. but ins mode cannot locate it
[13:54] <Agent86> jrib: so should I put the python command in front of the full path still ? or not? Also one last thing I tried to make the .desktop item execute a python script directly also and it did not run I have something wrong for sure
[13:54] <liquidstone> jrib: 1st http://pastebin.com/F2S2tDcx
[13:54] <Agent86> python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py   == full path ? ??
[13:55] <jrib> Agent86: you should run the command "python /full/path/to/usb_devices.py" from / in your shell.  Make sure it works there (presumably / is not the location of the file).  If that works, then use that command in your script
[13:55] <jrib> Agent86: yes
[13:55] <g0th> hi
[13:55] <jrib> liquidstone: what ubuntu version is this again?
[13:55] <Agent86> oh wait I should put quotes you think ?
[13:55] <g0th> when I try to mount a cifs share I get:
[13:55] <liquidstone> 13.04 64bit
[13:55] <g0th> mount error(95): Operation not supported
[13:55] <g0th> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[13:56] <jrib> Agent86: you shouldn't need any quotes
[13:56] <Agent86> ok
[13:56] <g0th> I didn't find anything useful in the man pages
[13:56] <g0th> what is error 95?
[13:56] <jrib> liquidstone: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get update »
[13:57] <jrib> !info libc6 raring
[13:58] <liquidstone> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ayFdQJuz
[13:59] <Agent86> well I don't know the full path it seems
[14:00] <Agent86> it's in the Documents folder and that is python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py
[14:00] <Agent86> I can go into the Documents folder and run python usb_devices.py
[14:00] <jrib> Agent86: so does that work ok when you run it from a shell?
[14:00] <Agent86> shell meaning consol not python interpreter right ?
[14:00] <jrib> Agent86: yes
[14:00] <Agent86> ok
[14:01] <Agent86> this path python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py does not run the script
[14:01] <Agent86> but that is the full path as far as I know
[14:01] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: I did changed it to Pulse from Alsa but still not able to get the DTS sign on my amp
[14:01] <jrib> Agent86: /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py exists?
[14:01] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, pavucontrol ?
[14:01] <Agent86> yes when I pwd from the consol I get /home/agent86
[14:02] <jrib> Agent86: what is the output you get when you try to run it with full path...?
[14:02] <Agent86> out says No such file or directory
[14:02] <h00k> jrib, Agent86: Not sure where you guys are at in the troubleshooting, but is usb_devices.py executable?
[14:02] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: I need this DTS b'cos I hv this Chakra meditation CD which produces some unique sounds
[14:02] <Agent86> yes executable thanks
[14:02] <jrib> Agent86: does /home/agent86/usb_devices.py exist perhaps?
[14:02] <Agent86> yes it exists
[14:03] <jrib> Agent86: so run "python /home/agent86/usb_devices.py"
[14:03] <Agent86> if I cd /Documents and run pyhon usb_devices.py it runs fine
[14:03] <jrib> Agent86: /Documents is not the same as ~/Documents
[14:03] <Agent86> or if I just go to the documents folder and click on it
[14:03] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, cat /proc/asound/modules , pastebin the output
[14:04] <Agent86> right ~/Documents
[14:04] <jrib> Agent86: either you have a lot of copies of this file all over the place or you are not explaining yourself very clearly
[14:04] <Agent86> one copy of the file located in the Documents folder default ubuntu Documents folder
[14:05] <jrib> liquidstone: what third-party repositories, PPAs, or packages outside the repositories have you enabled/installed
[14:05] <ehhh> i keep getting an error screen saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get past that screen and get into the ubuntu desktop . . does anyone know what to do ? i've got an nvidia card
[14:06] <liquidstone> jrib: i used swat-x repos for nvidia driver
[14:06] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_:  http://pastebin.com/NWzrwewM
[14:06] <Agent86> It runs it works just like all the other python scripts I wrote; and works inside my bash script when calling the python script and calling the bash script manually that calls the python script
[14:06] <jrib> Agent86: pastebin full input and output from « python /home/agent86/usb_devices.py »
[14:06] <jrib> h00k: it shouldn't matter in this case since he's calling python explicitly
[14:06] <Agent86> However, it does not run the python parts of the script when exectuted from the .desktop item and a removeable device is plugged in
[14:07] <Agent86> full output meaning consol output
[14:07] <jrib> Agent86: yes
[14:07] <ehhh> i've tried reinstalling nvidia-current, i tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but it won't fetch the packages
[14:07] <Agent86> cd
[14:07] <Agent86> oops
[14:07] <h00k> jrib: ah, ok.
[14:07] <g0th> ok solved it
[14:07] <Agent86> strange
[14:07] <Agent86> python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py
[14:07] <Agent86> devicenotfound.wav: No such file or directory
[14:07] <Agent86> Device Not Found or Has Been Removed
[14:07] <Agent86> applicationhalted.wav: No such file or directory
[14:08] <g0th> I had to add -o sec ntlm, everything else fails
[14:08] <FloodBot1> Agent86: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:08] <Agent86> oh crap sorry
[14:08] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: Yeah! I used pavucontrol
[14:08] <jrib> liquidstone: not really clear what's going on.  What's the output of  « apt-cache policy libasound2:i386 libc6:i386 »?
[14:09] <Agent86> http://bpaste.net/show/1rj8fvQHU8p04HJ1yUqz/
[14:09] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, ok , sudo modprobe  snd_usb_audio  , if there is no error or output that means the driver loaded properly
[14:09] <Agent86> i see it doesn't find my audio file for some reason
[14:10] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/fiRxVVJk
[14:10] <jrib> Agent86: either modify the script so it doesn't depend on the current directory being ~/Documents or modify your bash script to first change the working directory to ~/Documents before calling the python script
[14:10] <meowlulzcat> cat /super-secret-file/
[14:10] <Agent86> i'm confused it runs from within geany, and also manually from the Documents folder itself
[14:10] <meowlulzcat> shit
[14:10] <Mohamad_> hello i have ATI AMD 4350 HD video card and i am in ubuntu 13.04 using gnome shell, can i install any drivers ? or my card in not supported, thank u :)
[14:10] <blazemore> Agent86: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/918154/relative-paths-in-python
[14:10] <jrib> Agent86: because in both those cases your current directory is ~/Documents.  That's not the case when it gets called through udev
[14:11] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: there was no error and I am able to play the audio
[14:11] <Agent86> ok so would you say best to change the bash script to change the working directory first ?
[14:11] <jrib> Agent86: that's up to you
[14:11] <blazemore> Mohamad_: Here is a web page where someone has instructions on how to install the legacy driver http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[14:12] <blazemore> Mohamad_: The packages are not officially supported by Ubuntu, so use them at your own risk
[14:12] <ehhh> i'm getting really annoyed here :/
[14:12] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: the DTS sign on my amp is not coming and also the audio is not that clear
[14:12] <Mohamad_> thank u very much
[14:13] <jrib> ehhh: I have no idea what your actual issue is; your recent comments just seem to be rants
[14:13] <blazemore> jrib: He is having problems with one of his repositories
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, ok now we need make sure , add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf,   options snd_usb_audio index=0 , then you'll have to reboot
[14:14] <blazemore> I know what the answer is but I'm not telling him, on purpose
[14:14] <ehhh> blazemore: u ho :(
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, reboot is required for all the changes to work
[14:15] <jrib> liquidstone: do you happen to have aptitude installed?  (side question: can one search for broken packages through apt-get/apt-cache)?
[14:16] <ehhh> i keep getting an error screen saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get past that screen and get into the ubuntu desktop . . does anyone know what to do ? i've got an nvidia card
[14:17] <ToddMan> join /linuxmusicians
[14:17] <ToddMan> #join /linuxmusicians
[14:17] <Agent86> one thing I don't understand is that the actual script that runs with udev is bash scripted called usb-copy.sh which is also in the Documents folder
[14:18] <Agent86> so when I device it plugged in the script that runs is usb-copy.sh which is in the Documents folder and it runs perfectly up to the point where the python command starts
[14:18] <ehhh> everything was working fine untill i pulled rebooted my computer after pulling it out of suspend today
[14:19] <liquidstone> jrib: no
[14:19] <liquidstone> do i need to have it
[14:19] <jrib> liquidstone: ok, what's the output of « sudo apt-get install -f » (don't have it actually do anything, just paste the output).  You don't need aptitude, I just don't know how to search for broken packages outside of using aptitude
[14:20] <huttan> jrib: whats the command to do it with aptitude ?
[14:20] <liquidstone> jrib: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:20] <jrib> huttan: aptitude search '~b' (maybe; I would have to check the manual to see if it's ~b or something else but I know it exists)
[14:21] <huttan> jrib: thank you
[14:21] <ehhh> also apt-get is failing at fetching files, can i change to an international place to fetch the files where it's more likely to get the files`?
[14:21] <liquidstone> jrib: im installing aptitude
[14:21] <liquidstone> how to check broken packages with aptitude
[14:22] <jrib> liquidstone: ok, but I believe apt-get install -f would tell you if there were broken packages (and try to fix them)
[14:22] <marawan2> hello
[14:22] <jrib> liquidstone: aptitude search '~b'
[14:22] <marawan2> how does this work
[14:22] <marawan2> i don't get it
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[14:22] <reisio> marawan2: what?
[14:22] <marawan2> hello
[14:23] <marawan2> please tell me how this work
[14:23] <jrib> marawan2: this is the ubuntu support channel.  If you have a support question, ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they will reply
[14:23] <marawan2> so this is not random chatting
[14:23] <jrib> !ot | marawan2
[14:24] <liquidstone> no working
[14:25] <ToddMan> I'm hoping someone can help me setup a USB interface (no one is in linuxmusicians).  When I plug it in alsa seems to recognize the midi part of my ALESIS io2 express but not the headphone jack or the guitar inputs
[14:25] <jrib> liquidstone: you get no output?
[14:25] <marawan2> but i am using Lubuntu not Ubuntu
[14:25] <ehhh> i'm trying to install ppa-purge but i just get "failed to fetch http***************" and "E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix missing", i tried the suggestions to no avail
[14:25] <liquidstone> jrib: how to use with specific package?
[14:25] <jrib> liquidstone: it doesn't work this way
[14:26] <mhr> sed "1d;3d;4d;7d;8d" fileold > filenew deletes all lines in fileold and redirects to filenew. I want to delete those lines in fileold which are not in the list in the given command. what is the option i use?
[14:26] <Pici> mhr: use -i for inline editing.
[14:26] <jrib> mhr: print only the lines in the list
[14:26] <marawan2> Linux is so complocated
[14:27] <marawan2> complicated
[14:27] <liquidstone> i tried with software center same
[14:27] <marawan2> like all the KDE And XDE GNU and all of those abriviations i don't understand
[14:28] <GunArm> i can't believe, from the googling i'm doing, it seems there is NO way to translate ata1 to /dev/sdX, even though nasty errors are spewing about ata1 in dmesg
[14:28] <jrib> liquidstone: since you did install aptitude, what did happen when you ran the command I gave?
[14:28] <marawan2> cls
[14:28] <marawan2> clear
[14:28] <marawan2> doesn't work
[14:28] <Pici> marawan2: What are you trying to do?
[14:28] <willybilly0101> marawan2: RTFM it's allways easy to understand
[14:28] <liquidstone> jrib: it gave me manual how to use it
[14:28] <mhr> Pici, its a long file with thousands of lines
[14:29] <ToddMan> I'm hoping someone can help me setup a USB soundcard
[14:29] <jrib> liquidstone: what did you input?
[14:29] <liquidstone> just i dont know how to use it
[14:29] <marawan2> willybill0101: i don't know
[14:29] <stomanata> Hi, i perform  updatedb, but locate ****** may be search only on partition that is my linux :(   not at all partitions
[14:29] <liquidstone> aptitude search '~b'
[14:29] <marawan2> i am new here
[14:29] <jrib> liquidstone: you copied that from your terminal that you tried it on?
[14:30] <liquidstone> yes
[14:30] <mhr> jrib, I dint get you correctly, can you explain some more
[14:30] <willybilly0101> new where? on the internet?
[14:30] <marawan2> no to linux system
[14:30] <liquidstone> im trying to open software and updates from sys settings
[14:30] <liquidstone> i cant
[14:30] <marawan2> i used to run windows XP
[14:30] <liquidstone> i want to remove that swat repo
[14:30] <jrib> mhr: sed -n '1p;3p;4p;7p;8p' If I understood your question correctyl.
[14:31] <willybilly0101> marawan2: try reading about it. all distribution have a wiki
[14:31] <SuperLag> How do I remove *all* traces of the nvidia drivers on my system, so that I can start from scratch with something in the repos?
[14:31] <gueney> Hey guys, how secure is it to sudo a bash script that has an "exec" in it? I am trying to write a wrapper script and am now worried someone might "hijack" the script
[14:32] <reisio> marawan2: how it works is if you need help with something, you say what you need help with here
[14:32] <reisio> gueney: exactly as secure as write access to the bash script is
[14:32] <SuperLag> stomanata: that is correct. It will only index your Linux partitions.
[14:32] <marawan2> lubuntu, the one i am using has very few info on the web
[14:32] <reisio> marawan2: what info are you interested in?
[14:33] <marawan2> willybilly0101: lubuntu, the one i am using has very few info on the web
[14:33] <Agent86> sounds like I should change the python script and do away with the bash script all together thanks people
[14:33] <gueney> reisio: Is it possible to somehow inject a custom command to the exec during runtime?
[14:33] <jrib> liquidstone: if you work through http://pastebin.com/F2S2tDcx, and try to install the dependencies it's failing on one by one, you'll likely eventually figure out the root cause.
[14:33] <willybilly0101> what is your actual problem?
[14:33] <stomanata> but other is also linux partition
[14:33] <stomanata> but it doesn`t search on it
[14:33] <reisio> gueney: the exec?
[14:34] <reisio> gueney: you can specify the sh interpreter in your sudo command, too, if you prefer
[14:34] <marawan2> ok guys, my question is what is the difference between the linux distros
[14:34] <marawan2> espicially the ubuntu and xubuntu and lubuntu and kubunut
[14:34] <reisio> marawan2: mostly the approach to package management, the philosophy, and the community
[14:35] <marawan2> easy there
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: between ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, and kubuntu, only the preinstalled desktop environment
[14:35] <gueney> reisio: Yeah, I got an exec /usr/sbin/blah command in there, and am wondering if one could somehow alter the line during runtime and like run a root shell or something crazy lo
[14:35] <willybilly0101> marawan2: DE
[14:35] <marawan2> what is a package managment
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: GNOME + Unity, Xfce, LXDE, and KDE, respectively
[14:35] <willybilly0101> marawan2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_management_system
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: package management is the management (installation, removal, maintenance) of applications
[14:35] <reisio> aka packages
[14:35] <marawan2> which is the best?
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: that's subjective
[14:36] <reisio> marawan2: try them and find out which you prefer
[14:36] <marawan2> reisio: so there is no best?
[14:37] <marawan2>  reisio: is it based on taste?
[14:37] <auronandace> marawan2: there may be a best for you, but thats up to you
[14:37] <reisio> marawan2: you would have to have an explicit rubric to measure best logically
[14:37] <noiro> how do I go about the process of finding wireless card and installing proper drivers in Ubuntu LTS?
[14:37] <reisio> just "best" is subjective :)
[14:37] <willybilly0101> make & rm are the best
[14:37] <mhr> jrib, sed -n dint work, I want to delete those lines which are not in '1p;3p;4p;7p;8p'. Means I just want lines 1,3,4,7,8 in the filenew
[14:37] <reisio> it's possible one is the "best at promoting efficiency in an office environment", but you would have to do a scientific study to prove it
[14:38] <marawan2> reisio: so what should the choice be based on. like envirnoment, package mangment and system requirments?
[14:38] <reisio> marawan2: all Ubuntu versions use the same package management
[14:38] <reisio> marawan2: they have only different preinstalled desktop environments
[14:38] <reisio> marawan2: some are more appropriate for very old hardware than others
[14:38] <mhr> jrib, sorry I think i gave d instead of p in my command with option -n, let me try it again
[14:39] <reisio> some are also more appropriate for certain types of persons :)
[14:39] <marawan2> reisio: ya, thats why ubuntu didn't work for me. My laptop is old
[14:39] <marawan2> like really old
[14:40] <willybilly0101> marawan2: try Windows 3.11
[14:40] <reisio> marawan2: if you're using lubuntu, it should probably be okay
[14:40] <reisio> although you can get into trouble installing more packages than come with it by default
[14:40] <marawan2> reisio: i am not going back to windows that is because i am putting linux to the test
[14:41] <reisio> was willybilly0101's suggestion
[14:41] <marawan2> oh
[14:41] <reisio> and really you're only putting Lubuntu to the test
[14:41] <marawan2> i am going to try xubuntu
[14:41] <SuperLag> What is the difference between nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates?
[14:41] <marawan2> they say is good for old laps
[14:42] <SuperLag> I'm trying to figure out which repo package I should be installing for my ThinkPad W530, for the Nvidia driver. This thing has a K1000M in it, for video.
[14:42] <reisio> marawan2: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[14:42] <reisio> marawan2: I doubt it will perform better than LXDE, though, if hardware is the issue
[14:42] <stomanata> Is there option to search on all my partitions with locate?
[14:42] <reisio> stomanata: if you updatedb first
[14:42] <reisio> stomanata: but find / might be better
[14:43] <reisio> find / -iname '*summin*here*'
[14:43] <marawan2> reisio: no, it is just that lubuntu has so much SYSTEM PROBLEM
[14:43] <reisio> marawan2: system problem?
[14:43] <mhr> jrib, thank you it worked
[14:43] <stomanata> thanks i`ll try with find :)
[14:43] <marawan2> reisio:  ya like lubuntu didected system problem, do you want to report it
[14:43] <stomanata> i run updatadb, but locate search only in my   /
[14:43] <marawan2> reisio: stuff like that
[14:46] <rosco_y> I'm using 13.04 and I want to experiment with LAMP.  I already have mysql 5.5 installed.  Would anyone recommend that I *not* run "sudo apt-get lamp-server^" as recommended at http://setupguides.blogspot.com/2013/04/install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[14:46] <jordanrx123> hai? may I join your conversation? I introduce jordan andrean from ndonesia.
[14:47] <rosco_y> Hi jordanrx123, how are you doing?
[14:47] <rosco_y> Every thing is very open here.
[14:47] <rosco_y> (although I'm not an administrator here--this is just my opinion)
[14:48] <jordanrx123> i'am fine , where are you rosco ?
[14:48] <rosco_y> I have found everyone to be quite friendly
[14:48] <Duality> hey all
[14:48] <rosco_y> I'm in Michigan, of the US
[14:48] <Duality> can't seem to log into lubuntu could someone help me? when i try to log in it just puts me back to the login screen
[14:48] <rosco_y> Duality: :) how's it going?
[14:49] <Duality> good thanks :)
[14:49] <Duality> you ?
[14:49] <rosco_y> I've been doing better, but I'm getting over it now.  You have the right password?
[14:49] <jordanrx123> I am pleased to meet with you, may I play to where you are in America?
[14:50] <rosco_y> jordanrx123: I'm not sure what you mean: "may I play to where you are"
[14:51] <Duality> yes i got the right password then it would say incorrect password, please try again, also the screen goes black for just a moment and then I am back at the login screen
[14:51] <rosco_y> Duality: where are you logged into now?
[14:51] <marawan2> sorry guys i went to pee
[14:51] <rosco_y> ah
[14:51] <rosco_y> marawan2: no harm done, I suppose :)
[14:51] <jordanrx123> I can speak a little English so it was not so perfect. I want to play to your home in America.
[14:51] <Duality> rosco_y: my laptop, this is happening on my main pc :)
[14:51] <marawan2> rosco_y: hahaha
[14:51] <noiro> hey guys, I installed the b43-fwcutter driver and though I installed and rebooted, wireless is not being detected or showing up in additional drivers. I'm running a 4311 broadcom card
[14:52] <rosco_y> jordanrx123: your english is very good
[14:52] <rosco_y> Duality: can you log into a root shell?
[14:52] <marawan2> me english fery good good too
[14:52] <jordanrx123> thank you rosco :)
[14:52] <Duality> before this it would put me at the terminal/command prompt login and not start at all, then reinstalled Nvidia driver and got the login screen back
[14:52] <litropy> My NIC disconnects from my network, then the network disappears from my list. I can still see and attempt to connect to other networks, but my network isn't listed; same for nmcli con list. I have a AR9285 using ath9k
[14:52] <rosco_y> marawan2: I too am very fluent in typo
[14:53] <litropy> power management is off.
[14:53] <Duality> yes i am in a shell now :)
[14:53] <bazhang> !ot | marawan2
[14:53] <marawan2> rosco_y: lol
[14:53] <litropy> it happens no matter what nohwcrypt is doing.
[14:54] <litropy> dmesg says thing like failed to wake up and chip reset failed.
[14:54] <rosco_y> Duality: try CTL+ALT+F2 {F3, F4, F5 etc.}, you should be transfered to a text-mode login where you'd get more feedback.
[14:55] <rosco_y> then you could drop into su mode and check your config files and what not.
[14:55] <Duality> rosco_y: yes i am currently loged into f1
[14:55] <Voting> How do I find out the px width and hight of my laptop monitor?
[14:55] <marawan2> Does any one know some good Blender tutorials
[14:55] <tacomaster> I was trying to find out what software has Unsupported updates enabled is there a command to find this out?
[14:55] <bazhang> marawan2, #blender
[14:55] <noiro> hey guys, I installed the b43-fwcutter driver and though I installed and rebooted, wireless is not being detected or showing up in additional drivers. I'm running a 4311 broadcom card
[14:56] <rosco_y> Duality: unfortunately we are quickly arriving at the peak of my technical inneptitude....
[14:57] <Duality> rosco_y: ok :)
[14:57] <Voting> How do I find out the pixel width and hight of my laptop monitor?
[14:57] <rosco_y> Duality: have you dug around int /etc/X11 ? I'd wonder if something needed to be tweaked in that area
[14:58] <rosco_y> Voting: sometimes the hardware gui tools give that information--maybe a google search would do the trick?
[14:58] <Duality> rosco_y: i tried startx then got some errors
[14:59] <Duality> one of em said something about xauthority
[14:59] <rosco_y> Duality: I"ve never had very good luck running startx from the command line either, I don't really understand that one
[15:00] <ak5> hey guys is the php package compiled --with-openssl ?
[15:00] <rosco_y> Duality: what version OS are you using?
[15:01] <rosco_y> ak5: great, I came here wondering about php too--are you using mysql as your server?
[15:01] <ehhh> i keep getting an error screen saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get past that screen and get into the ubuntu desktop . . does anyone know what to do ? i've tried everything i can find in google to no avail
[15:01] <reisio> ak5: php --info | grpe -i openssl
[15:01] <reisio> ak5: php --info | grep -i openssl
[15:01] <reisio> even
[15:01] <Voting> rosco_y: http://www.whatismyscreenresolution.com/ says 1366 x 768 but I'm not feeling very trusting of a website that is trying to figure it out remotely.
[15:02] <ak5> reisio: cool, do I need to also install the openssl package? I don't know much about php
[15:02] <ak5> rosco_y: yes
[15:02] <ak5> rosco_y: you mean database, I am assuming
[15:02] <reisio> ak5: dpkg -l | grep -i ssl
[15:02] <ak5> well cool
[15:02] <ak5> thanks a ton
[15:04] <ehhh> also xorg.conf doesn't exist, can this be the problem?
[15:04] <reisio> ehhh: it can be, but likely is not
[15:05] <ehhh> reisio: yeah i think there's something wrong with the driver but i won't  say for sure since it was running fine untill now . .
[15:05] <rosco_y> Voting: how are you setting your resolution now?
[15:05] <ehhh> i've tried reinstalling the drivers and everything, also tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop but it just fails to fetch the packages
[15:06] <rosco_y> ak5: ty, yes.  I was just thinking I might give php a try, and so was thinking of installing via "apt-get install lamp-server^", but I've already got mysql 5.5 installed, so I wasn't sure that was a good idea
[15:06] <rosco_y> would you happen to have an opinion on that?
[15:07] <singingwolfboy> I'm using Xubuntu in a virtual machine via VMware. I can use ctrl-C/ctrl-V to copy/paste between most windows in Xubuntu, but not in the Terminal. I can right-click and select Paste and it works, but I can't use ctrl-V. Anyone know how to fix it so I can paste with ctrl-V in the Terminal application in Xubuntu?
[15:07] <reisio> singingwolfboy: ctrl+shift+v
[15:07] <rosco_y> singingwolfboy: I think that's a terminal limitation--which terminal software are you using?
[15:07] <noiro> Can someone help me with a b43 driver? I can install it, but it doesn't seem to show up in additional drivers so I can't activate it. Once installed, how do I set it as active?
[15:07] <reisio> singingwolfboy: you can change it to just ctrl+ instead of ctrl+shift+, but it's not 100% unproblematic, as CTRL+c, for example, is a standard shortcut you might need
[15:07] <ehhh> should i try to install the noveau driver?
[15:08] <reisio> ehhh: you could
[15:08] <singingwolfboy> rosco_y: whatever the default terminal is in Xubuntu
[15:08] <rosco_y> I've used konsole in the past, and ctl+v didn't work there, now I'm really fond of guake (try it out if you can), guake supports ctl+v
[15:08] <noiro> sudo modprobe 43 just makes the terminal freeze up
[15:08] <rosco_y> not sure about xterm, which might be the default for you.....
[15:09] <Duality> rosco_y: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[15:09] <Ari-Yang> ctrl+p to paste something in terminal? I use ctrl+shift+p
[15:09] <singingwolfboy> looks like control-shift-V works
[15:09] <ak5> rosco_y: just go for it, does the lamp-server^ meta-package pull in a different version??
[15:09] <rosco_y> ak5: I'm thinking along the same lines.
[15:09] <singingwolfboy> it would be awesome if I could use command-V on my keyboard -- as I said, I'm using Xubuntu as a VM via VMware, and my host OS is Mac
[15:10] <ak5> rosco_y: unless you installed mysql manually it didn't
[15:10] <ak5> rosco_y: so did you?
[15:10] <rosco_y> I installed mysql manually--I've been playing around with it for awhile now
[15:10] <ak5> I see
[15:11] <ak5> rosco_y: by manually, do you mean via "apt-get install mysql"?
[15:11] <rosco_y> I wouldn't lose anything important if it somehow got lost, so I could just go for it
[15:11] <rosco_y> ak5: yes,
[15:11] <ak5> rosco_y: you are fine then, please go ahad
[15:11] <ak5> ahead*
[15:11] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any text-to-speech program smarter than orca in ubuntu? I want something to read pdf files for example.
[15:11] <rosco_y> ak5: Thank you:)
[15:12] <ak5> rosco_y: yw
[15:13] <rosco_y> singingwolfboy: can you use ctl+v within your terminal software (cut and paste from within the terminal, back into the same terminal?
[15:14] <Duality> rosco_y: normaly i can paste in terminal by using ctrl-shift-v
[15:14] <ehhh> ok so i tried to install "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" and i get this message: "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming."
[15:15] <litropy> What would make networkmanager unlist a network after an unexpected disconnect?
[15:16] <blazemore> ehhh: Could you paste the full output of "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" to http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel?
[15:16] <rosco_y> Duality: :) I was asking singingwolfboy that question because he was trying to use ctl+v from a terminal in VirtualBox to a tool in the host environment, if I am understanding correctly
[15:17] <blazemore> singingwolfboy: shift-insert works on a lot of platforms too!
[15:17] <rosco_y> :) I'm gonna bail out... maybe catch you all later--have a good one everybody.....
[15:17] <Duality> ok anyway rosco_y i fixed my issue by remove .Xauthority from my home directory
[15:17] <ehhh> blazemore: alright though i'll have to write it all in . .
[15:18] <blazemore> ehhh: are you only on a TTY?
[15:18] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any text-to-speech program smarter than orca in ubuntu? I want something to read pdf files for example. Also I have installed Gufw; Incoming and outgoing traffic are set to allow. Does it protect my system, or should I define some rules and manage traffic?
[15:18] <clue_h> i'd set incoming to deny mojtaba
[15:18] <DylanCl> Hello. Rythmbox doesn't play some of my MP3s, and I was wondering why and how I could fix it. Anybody that has experienced this and found the answer to it? Or anybody that aleast wants to try and help me?
[15:18] <ehhh> blazemore: what does TTY mean? i'm using windows on this laptop i'm on irc with and i'm trying to get ubuntu running properly on a stationary computer connected to my tv-screen
[15:18] <BAMbanda> how do I get rid of unity and replace it with something different?
[15:18] <reisio> mojtaba: orca isn't a text to speech, is it it? It's a screen reader
[15:19] <blazemore> ehhh "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 2&>/tmp/apt_error_message"
[15:19] <reisio> reading the screen is doing it wrong from the start
[15:19] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_speech_synthesis_software
[15:19] <blazemore> ehhh: then the error will be in the file /tmp/apt_error_message - find a way of getting it to me :)
[15:19] <mojtaba> clue_h: how come?
[15:20] <clue_h> mojtaba, it's recommended because only ip traffic initiated from you is allowed, but then unsolicited inbound will default to deny
[15:20] <MonkeyDu1t> BAMbanda  install other DE, logout, change, login
[15:20] <mojtaba> reisio: Do you know which one is better?
[15:20] <DylanCl> Is there a music player that supports all the files? (Mp3, .m4a,..)
[15:20] <reisio> mojtaba: I forget
[15:20] <reisio> DylanCl: mplayer
[15:20] <reisio> DylanCl: vlc does pretty well, too
[15:20] <BAMbanda> MonkeyDult, will I be able to switch back and and forth at the login screen?
[15:21] <DylanCl> Well
[15:21] <reisio> gnome-mplayer if you want a UI
[15:21] <noiro> Can someone help me with wireless drivers?
[15:21] <DylanCl> I tried vlc, reisio, but half of my songs didn't work
[15:21] <DylanCl> And with rythmbox it just says 'Not Playing'
[15:21] <reisio> DylanCl: gnome-mplayer then
[15:21] <MonkeyDu1t> BAMbanda  yes, click on the gnome sign (or was it ubuntu sign) in the lightdm menu
[15:21] <reisio> DylanCl: either that or you need to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:21] <mojtaba> clue_h: what if I set both to deny?
[15:22] <BAMbanda> MonkeyDult thanks
[15:22] <clue_h> mojtaba, that will only work if you have defined a previous set of rules allowing certain port ranges out
[15:23] <clue_h> mojtaba, those would be for example 53 udp, 80 tcp, and 443 ssl
[15:23] <clue_h> that's all i allow out atm apart from 6697 tcp for irc
[15:23] <saiarcot895> mojtaba: otherwise, I think you won't be able to access anything outside your computer
[15:23] <DylanCl> reisio: how do I install mplayer?
[15:24] <reisio> DylanCl: search software center for gnome-mplayer
[15:24] <reisio> DylanCl: or sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer
[15:24] <blazemore> DylanCl: I'll give a +1 to vlc, it plays EVERYTHING
[15:24] <MonkeyDu1t> !info mplayer
[15:24] <DylanCl> blazemore: No it doesn't
[15:25] <mojtaba> clue_h: Thank you very much. How can I find what program is using what port?
[15:25] <DylanCl> it doesn't play most of my music
[15:25] <th0r> noiro, if you state the problem, someone may have a solution
[15:25] <blazemore> DylanCl: Well, I've yet to find anything it hasn't played
[15:25] <reisio> mplayer does better IME, but I think his problem is something else
[15:25] <blazemore> DylanCl: In what format is most of your music?
[15:25] <DylanCl> mp3 and m4a
[15:25] <blazemore> DylanCl: vlc definitely plays mp3... what error does it give you?
[15:25] <mojtaba> reisio: Do you know which one is better?
[15:25] <DylanCl> It doesn't give me an  error and that's what bugging me
[15:26] <DylanCl> neither does rythmbox, it just says 'Not playing'
[15:26] <clue_h> mojtaba, there are a series of commands for looking and what is connecting to what, i use one that suits my needs which is 'ss -apr' but i know there are better ones
[15:26] <blazemore> DylanCl: I mean if you run it from the command-line
[15:26] <DylanCl> How should I do that?
[15:26] <th0r> DylanCl, is the m4a itunes music?
[15:26] <reisio> mojtaba: nope, I do'nt follow that so much
[15:26] <reisio> mojtaba: but there are only a few, literally, try them
[15:26] <DylanCl> th0r: I have no clue. A friend sent them to me trough skype
[15:26] <mojtaba> clue_h: I learned something. Thank you
[15:26] <blazemore> DylanCl: Open a terminal and type "vlc" then press Enter
[15:26] <mojtaba> reisio: thaks
[15:27] <noiro> th0r: I have, many times. I have installed the b43 driver via commandline and GUI (tried uninstall and reinstall), rebooted, Additional drivers does not show the option to activate the card. Network devices still gives no wireless internet option
[15:27] <DylanCl> 2 seconds, have to redownload vlc
[15:27] <blazemore> DylanCl: Then, after trying to play your music, copy and paste all the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com - one of those messages will be helpful to me or to someone else in here I'm sure
[15:27] <ehhh> blazemore: there's not that much more than what i wrote earlier so i just typed it out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801791/ is it telling me to install the stuff that's behind the "Depends:" part instead`?
[15:27] <blazemore> ehhh: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:27] <th0r> noiro, have you installed the firmware? I think you need the b43-fwcutter and another file
[15:27] <blazemore> ehhh: Run that command on its own
[15:28] <danart82> !list
[15:28] <noiro> th0r: firmware-b43-fwcutter and b43-fwcutter?
[15:28] <blazemore> ehhh: Allow it to install any packages it wants
[15:28] <th0r> noiro, yeah...that sounds like it
[15:28] <noiro> I installed that
[15:28] <th0r> noiro, in a terminal type 'lsmod | grep b43' and see if the b43 module is loaded
[15:29] <argoneus> Hello
[15:29] <argoneus> is Ubuntu a rolling distro? I mean, how -new- software does the repo have?
[15:29] <reisio> argoneus: it's not rolling release, no
[15:29] <mojtaba> clue_h: The last question, Does the firewall work if I close it?
[15:29] <ehhh> blazemore: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[15:30] <DylanCl> blazemore: how do I play a song?
[15:30] <reisio> argoneus: but you can get almost as new software as you like, with a sacrifice of stability
[15:30] <DylanCl> just type play (song)?
[15:30] <argoneus> reisio: from the official repos?
[15:30] <noiro> th0r, nothing was returned upon entering that command
[15:30] <reisio> argoneus: yes, frequently
[15:30] <argoneus> oh, nice
[15:30] <th0r> noiro, in the terminal type
[15:30] <clue_h> mojtaba, yes it does, but you could check by typing ufw status, under sudo
[15:30] <mojtaba> clue_h: thanks again
[15:31] <th0r> noiro, (oops) type ' modprobe b43' and see if it brings the wireless to life. Then type 'ifconfig' and see if you have a wlan0 or eth2 or some such
[15:31] <wj> java
[15:31] <DJones> argoneus: Although its not a rolling release, versions are released every 6 months and only supported for 9 months, so the software shouldn't get too far behind
[15:31] <ehhh> blazemore: so i don't think it did anything, i think i also tried that command a bit earlier
[15:31] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: does a VLC window open up?
[15:31] <ehhh> blazemore: with the same results
[15:31] <DylanCl> saiarcot895: no
[15:31] <reisio> wj: twss
[15:32] <DylanCl> it did give me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801796/
[15:32] <noiro> th0r, modprobe freezes terminal, it just sits there and blinks
[15:32] <th0r> noiro, control-C should free it up.
[15:32] <th0r> noiro, that was 'modprobe b43' right? make sure there wasn't a typo
[15:33] <danart82> !list
[15:33] <th0r> noiro, also, try 'lsmod | grep wl' and see if that other driver is loaded
[15:33] <danart82> salve
[15:33] <noiro> It doesn't free up. And no, no typo. I entered: "sudo modprobe b43"
[15:33] <noiro> I'll just force-close it
[15:33] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: do you have vlc from the distro repo?
[15:33] <DylanCl> distro repo?
[15:34] <theseb> How make desktop icon automatically launch instead of ASKING what I want to do with the file?
[15:34] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: like, did you use Ubuntu Software Center or do "sudo apt-get install vlc"?
[15:34] <noiro> th0r, any solution
[15:34] <DylanCl> I did sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:34] <th0r> noiro, try 'lsmod | grep wl'...is the wl driver loaded?
[15:34] <ehhh> blazemore: i get "the following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: <bunch of language packs>. Use apt-get autoremove to remove them"
[15:35] <danart82> !list
[15:35] <ehhh> right above the 0 upgraded part
[15:35] <blazemore> ehhh: Don't worry about that second one. Try running "sudo apt-get update" first
[15:35] <bazhang> danart82, no warez here, stop that
[15:35] <DylanCl> Guess I had to download it from the market thingy? :P
[15:35] <MonkeyDu1t> theseb  try right click, properties, "always do this blah" or something similar
[15:35] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: try opening up VLC using the regular way
[15:35] <DJones> danart82: The bot will give the same answer no matter how many times you ask it, this channel (and the freenode network) doesn't host warez
[15:35] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: they're the same
[15:35] <noiro> th0r, what is it supposed to return?
[15:35] <DylanCl> well
[15:36] <MonkeyDu1t> danart82  try #listalians
[15:36] <blazemore> saiarcot895: The entire point was for him to open it in a terminal to see errors in playing his music files
[15:36] <DylanCl> I just installed vlc from the software centre
[15:36] <th0r> noiro, it might return a line with wl and a couple of numbers
[15:36] <DylanCl> then did vlc in terminal
[15:36] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: the Software Center is just a GUI frontend for using sudo apt-get
[15:36] <DylanCl> now it opened up
[15:36] <noiro> I got 3 lines returned. wl 302548
[15:36] <DylanCl> So
[15:36] <noiro> *3032548
[15:36] <DylanCl> Do I open up a file that doesn't work?
[15:36] <th0r> noiro, ok....try this....first line 'rmmod wl' second line 'modprobe b43
[15:37] <noiro> Module wl is in use
[15:37] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: yes
[15:37] <DylanCl> alright let me see
[15:37] <th0r> noiro, then the wifi card should be working. check 'ifconfig' and see if it is there
[15:37] <th0r> noiro, if you aren't sure, pastebin the result of ifconfig
[15:38] <noiro> all I see is eth0 and lo
[15:38] <th0r> noiro, are you by any chance using xubuntu?
[15:38] <noiro> I'm using the LTS with gnome-shell
[15:38] <DylanCl> saiarcot895: I opened up all my tracks, this is what it gave me
[15:38] <DylanCl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801831/
[15:39] <th0r> noiro, right click the network manager icon and make sure wireless is turned on
[15:39] <DylanCl> it just kept going to the next track, that idnd't work, next track, untill a track that did work
[15:39] <DylanCl> not sure if you're something with that
[15:39] <blazemore> DylanCl: [mp3 @ 0xb030e880] Header missing
[15:39] <noiro> th0r: wireless is not listed
[15:39] <blazemore> DylanCl: Can you play those files in *anything* ?
[15:39] <ehhh> blazemore: i get a bunch of errors saying "Err http://no.archive.ubuntu.com Release.gpg . Could not resolve 'no.archive.ubuntu.com" and below that "W: Failed to fetch http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'no.archive.ubuntu.com' " and then the bottom line is : "W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead" the two first repeating a bunch of ti
[15:39] <DylanCl> Nope
[15:39] <DylanCl> Well, not in the programs I tried
[15:39] <th0r> noiro, just a check....
[15:39] <blazemore> ehhh: Have you made any changes to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:40] <DylanCl> Could it be because they came from an USB
[15:40] <th0r> noiro, (need to move that darn return key <smile>.) just a check, 'sudo rmmod wl' refuses to work, right?
[15:40] <blazemore> They look broken
[15:40] <noiro> th0r: yes, it says wl is in use
[15:40] <blazemore> ehhh: What version of Ubuntu are you running, also?
[15:40] <DylanCl> And is there a way to fix them?
[15:41] <ehhh> blazemore: no i don't think so. . i was running 12.04 with no problems untill i pulled it out of suspend earlier today, then i got to the desktop and the background was messed up so i rebooted and then i ended up on the low-graphics mode error
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: No, re-obtain them from your friend on Skype
[15:41] <DylanCl> that's going to take ages since a lot of them don't work
[15:41] <noiro> th0r: yes, it says wl is in use
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: OK
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: Shame
[15:41] <DylanCl> Hmm
[15:41] <th0r> noiro, does it show wlan0 or some such?
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: You said they came from USB?
[15:41] <noiro> in ifconfig? No
[15:41] <DylanCl> I'm goign to try to upload them to mediafire/megaupload (the one that isn't broken) and download them from there
[15:41] <DylanCl> and yeah
[15:42] <blazemore> DylanCl: ...that won't make a difference don't waste your time. garbage in, garbage out
[15:42] <DylanCl> Well
[15:42] <DylanCl> On windows they worked
[15:42] <DylanCl> but suddenly on ubuntu they break lol
[15:42] <blazemore> DylanCl: That changes things
[15:42] <blazemore> DylanCl: I was under the impression you'd never been able to play them
[15:42] <noiro> All network interfaces are eth0 and l
[15:42] <th0r> noiro, no...iWconfig
[15:43] <DylanCl> On windows media player they work just fine
[15:43] <noiro> iWconfig lists both lo and eth0 and says "No wireless extensions" by both
[15:43] <blazemore> DylanCl: Copy them across via USB again, but this time be sure to use Windows' "Eject" or "Safely Remove Harware" feature
[15:43] <DJones> DylanCl: This may help http://linuxpoison.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/detect-and-repair-problems-in-mp3-files.html Its an old post, but the app is still around
[15:43] <DylanCl> Alright, I'll try both of you guys' solutions
[15:43] <Spr1ng> How do you install SSL certs (intermediary CA bundle and host specific cert) in 12.04.2?
[15:43] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: are the file sizes around 4-10 MB, or is it shown in kB or less?
[15:44] <blazemore> Spr1ng: I'd recommend going to #ubuntu-server for those sorts of questions. Also, Google Is Your Friend for tutorials like that
[15:44] <blazemore> saiarcot895: nice one
[15:44] <Spr1ng> thx blazemore
[15:44] <DylanCl> Yeah, they are around 4-10 MB
[15:44] <th0r> noiro, then what I would do....blacklist wl, reboot, and try b43. I have installed several xubuntu and am now running debian. Have great luck with b43, but no lluck with the wl module. But someone else here might have a better idea
[15:45] <noiro> how would I blacklist wl?
[15:45] <th0r> noiro, let me check the exact file name
[15:45] <blazemore> ehhh: Do you know how to access the Grub menu before Ubuntu boots?
[15:46] <DylanCl> off-topic: I'm really liking Ubuntu 13.04
[15:46] <ehhh> blazemore: i tihnk the grub menu boots automatically before entering the os since i can choose between normal and recovery mode everytime i boot
[15:46] <DylanCl> A few crashes, but nothing terrible
[15:46] <ehhh> blazemore: otherwise holding shift should do  the trick (i think)
[15:46] <th0r> noiro, found an ubuntu how to...but first, try this command 'sudo modprobe -r wl'
[15:47] <blazemore> ehhh: Brilliant, so what I want you to do is to edit the file /etc/default/grub - are you comfortable doing that from the terminal? I can tell you more if not
[15:47] <noiro> th0r, looks like it cursor is just sitting there again
[15:47] <blazemore> ehhh: Find the line that says "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" - there will be a list of things like "quiet" and stuff - at the end of them add the word "nomodeset" and save and quit the file, then reboot
[15:47] <bigtone> Resolution Switcher says its installed but I can't find it to change it, its too big
[15:47] <ehhh> blazemore: as long as i have proper instructions there shouldn't be a problem . .
[15:48] <blazemore> ehhh: run the command "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" to open the file in the nano text editor
[15:48] <DylanCl> DJones: It appears that the program is for ubuntu 9.10
[15:48] <th0r> noiro, then this will show you how to blacklist wl. It will prevent loading the module, so when you reboot we can try adding b43
[15:48] <DylanCl> And I'm running 13.04
[15:48] <th0r> noiro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624
[15:48] <blazemore> ehhh: Move around with the arrow keys. When you've finished making your changes, press Ctrl-O and then Enter to save, and then Ctrl-X to quit
[15:49] <blazemore> ehhh: Oh, almost forgot, after that but before you reboot, run "sudo update-grub"
[15:49] <ehhh> blazemore: ok i'll try the nomodeset, i tried that before i went ahead and clean installed ubuntu again because i lost video signal after i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 but it didn't help then . .
[15:49] <th0r> noiro, I should be here, but if not, you want to load the b43 module (modprobe b43) and if it brings up the wifi then add it to /etc/modules
[15:49] <blazemore> ehhh: That's OK I have something else up my sleeve if that doesn't work
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, a good player for linux is mplayer
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> I use mpv which is a fork of mplayer2
[15:50] <ehhh> blazemore: alright, i'm starting to suspect the graphics card is the culprit to my problems though lol :P
[15:50] <DylanCl> blazemore: the safe remove thing didn't fix anything, sorry.
[15:50] <irreverant> I'm having with ubuntu, I can't do su - (password) for root
[15:50] <irreverant> do i have to enable the root user in the users daemon?
[15:50] <reisio> irreverant: root just doesn't have a password set by default, on Ubuntu
[15:50] <blazemore> DylanCl: OK did you try DJones 's solution?
[15:51] <Ari-Yang> you shouldn't touch root unless you know what you're doing. to execute a command in terminal as root you'd type: sudo commandhere
[15:51] <Anubis> irreverant:sudo
[15:51] <blazemore> irreverant: You can do "sudo su" to get a root shell if you need it (or sudo -s)
[15:51] <DylanCl> The program is for ubuntu 9.14
[15:51] <d4rkn30> Need help with Ubuntu Server 13.04, Somehow grub lost its settings and now is bringing me to a grub rescue command line
[15:51] <irreverant> so for example, i do yum install
[15:51] <reisio> d4rkn30: booting a live OS will make that more easily fixed
[15:51] <irreverant> i mean apt-get install xchat
[15:51] <reisio> irreverant: prepend 'sudo '
[15:51] <blazemore> DylanCl: http://mp3diags.sourceforge.net/
[15:51] <irreverant> then it asks for me to have root privilege to install
[15:52] <DylanCl> mplayer can't play the files either
[15:52] <reisio> irreverant: that's what Ubuntu wants you to do
[15:52] <blazemore> irreverant: you do "sudo apt-get install xchat" in that case
[15:52] <reisio> DylanCl: can you put one of these files online?
[15:52] <Anubis> dylancl: did you tried vlc?
[15:52] <blazemore> irreverant: Or... use the Software Center
[15:52] <reisio> DylanCl: we could tell you then whether it's the file or your system
[15:52] <irreverant> reisio: sudo apt-get install xchat?
[15:52] <DylanCl> Anubis: I did.
[15:52] <reisio> irreverant: yes
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, yeah, something is wrong
[15:52] <reisio> s/xchat/hexchat/
[15:52] <DylanCl> reisio: alright
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> you are probably missing deps, DylanCl
[15:52] <DylanCl> What host do you want?
[15:52] <reisio> DylanCl: I care not
[15:52] <irreverant> reisio: why not just su - <password> ?
[15:52] <reisio> irreverant: that is a good question
[15:53] <reisio> irreverant: unfortunately responding to it will upset the ops in this channel
[15:53] <DylanCl> ok starting up mp3diags
[15:53] <reisio> irreverant: this might be the upstream explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:53] <Ari-Yang> @ irreverant https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[15:53] <irreverant> reisio: so sudo is a shell command? or su -s?
[15:53] <d4rkn30> reisio: im booting it up.
[15:53] <blazemore> do we have ...
[15:53] <reisio> irreverant: sudo is like su for single commands
[15:53] <blazemore> !sudo | irreverant
[15:54] <blazemore> achievement get: sucesfully guessed an ubottu command
[15:54] <ehhh> blazemore: i'm back at the low-graphics mode screen
[15:54] <blazemore> ehhh: OK one more thing to try. What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[15:55] <ehhh> blazemore: 12.04, last case scenario if problems persist i need to get a hold of some dvds to burn 13.04 from since i can't get usb to boot on that computer
[15:55] <irreverant> does this syntax: apt-get update
[15:55] <irreverant> perform an update of the repositories?
[15:55] <pickle_> hello umm... I'm in a real pickle here. I "somehow" managed to delete half the files on my computer (including ubuntu software center, the terminal and several essential gui elemnts). Is there a way for me to recover them? Because I really don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu completely.
[15:55] <Ari-Yang> irreverant, yes...
[15:55] <DylanCl> Is it /msg to message people?
[15:55] <Ari-Yang> add the ppa, then apt-get update
[15:56] <Anubis> irreverant:yes
[15:56] <Ari-Yang> irreverant, then sudo apt-get install hexchat
[15:56] <blazemore> ehhh: make a backup of your sources.list file by doing "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup"
[15:56] <reisio> DylanCl: hrmm?
[15:56] <blazemore> ehhh: Damn, you can't paste stuff here can you...
[15:57] <auronandace> !paste | blazemore
[15:57] <reisio> pickle_: if you didn't delete any personal files you don't have backed up, then reinstalling might be simplest
[15:57] <reisio> pickle_: depending on what's left, you can backup your list of what you had installed already, though
[15:57] <leonardo_> Hi, Im new to Ubuntu
[15:57] <ehhh> blazemore: no i have no idea how to transfer files in the terminal lol, i have usb pendrives so if it's possible from the terminal i probably can
[15:57] <blazemore> auronandace: Thanks lol but I mean ehhh is on his Windows laptop because his borked system is stuck in a TTY
[15:57] <leonardo_> I like it
[15:57] <reisio> and then get back basically the same system
[15:57] <irreverant> leonardo: So am I!
[15:57] <blazemore> auronandace: so *he* can't paste things here,
[15:57] <auronandace> blazemore: oh, sorry
[15:58] <blazemore> ehhh: Na, I need to see the contents of that file. Does your broken system have Internet?
[15:58] <irreverant> What benefits if any do I have installing WUBI over a Guest OS in VMWare on my windows box?
[15:58] <pickle_> reisio: if I reinstall do I have to backup my files (those that are left) or do I have to back them up first?
[15:58] <ehhh> blazemore: yes it's connected by wire
[15:58] <pickle_> wait, that's not what I wanted to say
[15:58] <Semen_Dickman> YOOOW
[15:58] <pickle_> reisio: I mean, will the files get deleted when I reinstall
[15:59] <d4rkn30> reisio: Okay im booted in, the grub.cfg looks fine
[15:59] <blazemore> ehhh: I'm going to send you a private message
[15:59] <irreverant> reisio: when I install wubi - does it load in a sandboxed api? What is load process for the ubuntu os when installed as a fodler in windows?
[16:00] <leonardo_> I have a question. How do I put the shoutcast in Rythmbox? Is there a Winamp for Linux maybe? Or any other useful software. Thank you for your help.
[16:00] <auronandace> irreverant: don't bother with wubi, it won't be around in the future
[16:01] <reisio> pickle_: depends on how you're partitioned
[16:01] <reisio> pickle_: you shouldn't worry about the OS files
[16:01] <irreverant> auronandace: why not? not popular? doesn't work well?
[16:01] <Anubis> irreverant: if you dont want to mess your system use virtualbox/vmware to test ubuntu
[16:01] <auronandace> irreverant: dropped due to uefi issues
[16:01] <reisio> irreverant: relying on NTFS doesn't turn out well
[16:01] <reisio> whether you're running a Unix system on it or Windows :p
[16:01] <irreverant> Anubis: Ok, sounds good. I just wanted to be familiar with all the deployment options.
[16:01] <pickle_> reisio: I don't even remember how I partitioned now...
[16:01] <reisio> pickle_: :)
[16:01] <leonardo_> I have a question. How do I put the shoutcast in Rythmbox? Is there a Winamp for Linux maybe? Or any other useful software. Thank you for your help. PM pls
[16:02] <irreverant> reisio: Anubis: auronandace: Do i have to configure the /usr /  /bin etc..... partitions or is this done on the fly?
[16:03] <auronandace> irreverant: what do you mean by configure?
[16:03] <irreverant> Create and maintain the sizes for each of these partitions?
[16:03] <reisio> irreverant: you can let it do it itself or you can do it manually
[16:03] <reisio> up to you
[16:03] <Anubis> irreverant: you can accept the suggested partition or you can manually configure partitions
[16:03] <reisio> leonardo_: audacious is the most like traditional winamp
[16:04] <irreverant> reisio: Anubis: auronandace: thank you.
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> leonardo_, I use mpd (music player daemon) and gmpc (as the gui front end)
[16:04] <auronandace> irreverant: i like to create before install but you can do it during
[16:05] <iamtony> Hi, if I use Files -> Connect to Server in the file browser, where is the directory actually mounted (I'd like to get to it from the terminal)? (Ub 13.04)
[16:05] <irreverant> auronandace: which fs do you prefer?
[16:05] <auronandace> irreverant: i've always used the default ext4
[16:06] <saiarcot895> iamtony: I think it's /mount/<user name>/
[16:06] <blazemore> iamtony: It goes in ~/.gvfs somewhere
[16:06] <blazemore> iamtony: Something like that
[16:06] <reisio> iamtony: the 'mount' command will likely say
[16:07] <iamtony> Great, thanks
[16:08] <Anubis> irreverant: you're welcome
[16:09] <blazemore> iamtony: Where was it in the end, as a matter of interest?
[16:09] <blazemore> iamtony: If you want something a bit more configurable but technical, take a look at sshfs in the repos
[16:10] <iamtony> blazemore: I don't know, network has just gone down. Typical :-)
[16:10] <DJones> DylanCl: The program is also for 13.04, all you need to do is "sudo apt-get install mp3diags" I've checked on my system running 13.04 and its quite happy to install it
[16:11] <DJones> DylanCl: The article talked about 9.10 etc, but I did say the app was still around
[16:12] <s1ngleton> hey all - I have enabled ChallengeResponseAuthentication in my sshd_config, and installed google-authenticator pam module... any ideas why SSH refuses to give me a prompt for the code?
[16:13] <blazemore> s1ngleton: I don't know, but thanks for letting me know that such a thing exists!
[16:13] <DylanCl> DJones: how do I remove all the MP3s that I put in that?
[16:13] <s1ngleton> blazemore, it's quite cool, but seems broken on 12.04 with openssh5.9
[16:13] <s1ngleton> I have it working for openvpn though, very nicely
[16:17] <DJones> DylanCl: As far as I can see, the only way of going back is to close the app
[16:17] <DylanCl> DJones: ah
[16:17] <DylanCl> DJones: well, I repaired everything
[16:17] <DylanCl> well
[16:17] <DylanCl> I applied all the fixes it wanted to do
[16:17] <DylanCl> do I just play the music now?
[16:18] <DJones> DylanCl: Its worth a try
[16:18] <DylanCl> it didn't fix them
[16:19] <GunArm> what command can I use to take a  1 line string and cut out all but the portion that matches a regex?
[16:19] <MonkeyDu1t> GunArm  awk is the command to use
[16:20] <Hwkiller> or sed.
[16:20] <GunArm> i was working with sed but it seems to all be line based
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> probably a few commands you can use
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> awk/sed/perl or anything else that processes text
[16:20] <Hwkiller> oh wait... could you use grep with -v ?
[16:21] <reisio> GunArm: you just said a 1 line string
[16:21] <GunArm> specifically what I want to do is take this line
[16:21] <GunArm> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 25 19:53 /sys/block/sdc -> ../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sdc
[16:21] <GunArm> and output the sdc
[16:21] <GunArm> or /sys/block/sdc
[16:21] <GunArm> either
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> how are you listing it to start?
[16:22] <GunArm> i already grepped to get that line
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> with ls?
[16:22] <Hwkiller> GunArm: you can double grep
[16:22] <Hwkiller> or add new things to filter by.
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> GunArm: ^
[16:22] <Hwkiller> and couldn't you run something like ls *sdc* ?
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> try looking at the output of ls -1 for whatever it is your doing there - it may help it would in turn just give you the sdc your looking for
[16:23] <GunArm> ls -l /sys/block/sd* | grep $x       where $x is host0 for example
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> try ls -1 sys/block/sd*
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> thats a folder so try with -1d
[16:24] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: but i have to grep by part of the string that I want removed, so first i have to ls with the full data
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> i see
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> what are you trying to do if you dont mind me asking?
[16:25] <overdub> GunArm, echo "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 25 19:53 /sys/block/sdc -> ../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sdc" | cut -d'>' -f2
[16:25] <GunArm> write a short script to translate ata1 to /dev/sda
[16:25] <vfgbvezav> hi
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> that may break if it's not a link though
[16:26] <vfgbvezav> I made a mistake and reduce my partition so I lost 10GO of files but don't know which one, do u know how to check if my files have errors or something like that thx guys
[16:26] <Hwkiller> but those are always links, SolarisBoy, at least in that directory.
[16:26] <puff> GunArm: Hm, sounds like you may want to use either find, or a full-blown perl script.
[16:26] <SolarisBoy> better to split on space in that case maybe split on spaces
[16:26] <irreverant> I'm failing at step 10 of reverting to Gnome 3 from this walkthrough http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370
[16:27] <SolarisBoy> i wonder what GunArm ultimate goal is.
[16:27] <argoneus> Hello
[16:27] <root_____> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fish.Fishbowl
[16:27] <irreverant> Has anyone disabled the Unity ui?
[16:27] <argoneus> If I want to dualboot ubuntu/windows7, then first I partition the disk to half ntfs/half ext4 in gparted on live cd, then install windows on the ntfs partition, and then install linux+grub on the other one?
[16:27] <vfgbvezav> hi argoneus
[16:27] <irreverant> argoneus yes.
[16:27] <vfgbvezav> yes
[16:27] <Pici> !notunity | irreverant
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> use bootrepair to restore grub on live cd
[16:28] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: i said a second ago, i'm trying to translate between "ata1" and /dev/sdx
[16:28] <irreverant> If you do it the other way around then you'll mess up the boot record
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> bootrepair live cd is the best
[16:28] <GunArm> overdub: i might use cut, thats a good start
[16:28] <argoneus> can't I use the windows disc to restore MBR?
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> I did that and worked like a charm
[16:28] <overdub> i simply use apt-get install kde-full to get away from unity
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> argoneus, don't know but bootrepair safe and working
[16:28] <Hwkiller> you won't mess up the MBR, it'll just clear grub from it.
[16:28] <irreverant> argoneus, yes you can but it's not as simple as using their recommendation
[16:28] <overdub> GunArm, you could use sed, awk, perl any of which can do anything to that line
[16:29] <Hwkiller> so you'd just have to reinstall grpb.
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> GunArm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64351/how-to-match-ata4-00-to-the-apropriate-dev-sdx-or-actual-physical-disk
[16:29] <Hwkiller> grub*
[16:29] <argoneus> so I need to burn a "bootrepair" cd?
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> i just ran the bash script on the bottom GunArm it works fine
[16:29] <irreverant> Kwkiller is right, it wont mess the mbr. that's a more specific answer
[16:29] <Hwkiller> grub*
[16:29] <reisio> argoneus: if you install Windows first and Linux second, there may well be no repairing required
[16:29] <Hwkiller> oops.
[16:29] <puff> GunArm: Do you care about hard links, or just soft links?
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> GunArm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801978/
[16:29] <vfgbvezav> how to check integrity of a file?
[16:29] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: thank you that is what iw as basically trying to write
[16:30] <argoneus> one more thin
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> bingo then =)
[16:30] <reisio> argoneus: that is: unless there's some reason you want to have Windows boot itself instead of letting Linux do it...
[16:30] <argoneus> if I have ati/intel hybrid graphics on my laptop, is there a way to get catalyst running on ubuntu and switch between them?
[16:30] <Hwkiller> if you want windows to manage the boot, you need a bcd edit program,iirc
[16:30] <Hwkiller> easybcd
[16:30] <argoneus> or should I just use the opensource drivers
[16:30] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: puff: overdub: Hwkiller: thanks
[16:30] <irreverant> argoneus: Win 7 has a different load proces than xp and no longer utilizes the ntlodr option, windows 7 will wipe the arc path for the boot process and although the installation of Linux is valid, it won't be available.
[16:30] <reisio> argoneus: I don't follow it, but there are various stages of support
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> yw
[16:31] <Hwkiller> ooh... I'm not actually sure if the amd drivers support hybrid graphics yet.
[16:31] <reisio> argoneus: a search for your specific 'puter model, plus 'linux' might help
[16:31] <argoneus> ah ok thanks
[16:31] <reisio> well there's automated switching and manual switching
[16:31] <reisio> "manual", or if you're smart, programmatic :p
[16:31] <argoneus> reisio: no results :(
[16:32] <Hwkiller> reisio: is there an equivalent to primus/optirun for amd stuff?
[16:32] <Hwkiller> or do you mean just using the bios to force a gpu?
[16:33] <puff> GunArm: find /dev -type l -maxdepth 1
[16:33] <puff> GunArm: And then pipe that into whatever you want to do with the list of files, example:  find /dev -type l -maxdepth 1 | xargs ls -l
[16:36] <nightdrever> does compiz work without problems on ubuntu 12.04 with all effects?
[16:36] <overdub> nightdrever, that would likely depend on your hardware
[16:37] <reisio> Hwkiller: there is, IIRC
[16:37] <reisio> but I'm no expert
[16:37] <nightdrever> nvidea geforce gt 640, amd processor 4gb ram 4ghz
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever, best way to really find out is to try it..
[16:38] <Hwkiller> reisio: me neither. I really only know about intel and nvidia.
[16:38] <nightdrever> but i dont want to 'try' if it ruins my pc
[16:38] <overdub> it won't hurt your hardware
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever, I doubt it will do anything but ruin your pc
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> worse case scenario stuff on ubuntu may lag a bit
[16:38] <Hwkiller> nightdrever: you never need to worry about that :p.
[16:39] <Hwkiller> I'm fairly sure that pc will run just fine though.
[16:39] <Hwkiller> I have much weaker machines that run unity just fine.
[16:39] <karimi> hi every body
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> I set my cpufreq to 1.20MHz (max is 2.27) and power_profile to "mid", this may be a nice combo...
[16:39] <Actionparsnip> Same. I just choose not to
[16:39] <nightdrever> i have lots of things i dont want to lose and i dont have external hard drive to back up and im not buying one just incase compiz ruins things
[16:39] <Actionparsnip>  Karimi: howdy
[16:39] <Hwkiller> compiz won't hurt anything...
[16:40] <Hwkiller> it's just a window manager/compositor. it doesn't do anything to hurt it.
[16:40] <karimi> man or women
[16:40] <Hwkiller> of course though, you really should backup, just because that's a good practice.
[16:40] <reisio> men or women
[16:40] <Hwkiller> if it doesn't exist in 3 places, it doesn't exist at all.
[16:40] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: 1. Get a backup 2. Compiz is a (crappy) window manager, so can be changed at will
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> I don't like compiz
[16:41] <reisio> then don't use it or Unity
[16:41] <Makdaam> hi, how do I disable all power management and power saving in quantal?
[16:41] <malimbar> very happy that compiz is going away in Ubuntu soonish
[16:41] <Hwkiller> yeah... compiz is incredibly slow, but that's beside the point.
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> I don't like unity either lol
[16:41] <malimbar> well, in the next version or two
[16:41] <nightdrever> i just like the effects
[16:41] <nightdrever> is there anything else which gives affects like it?
[16:41] <reisio> shouldn't be slow unless you have inadequate hardware :)
[16:41] <Hwkiller> nightdrever: kwin.
[16:41] <reisio> nightdrever: yes
[16:41] <Hwkiller> and it does so much faster.
[16:41] <reisio> nightdrever: GNOME and KDE have their own things
[16:41] <Actionparsnip> Malimbar: not even got a DE here, just openbox :-)
[16:41] <malimbar> enlightenment is even better, but limited and weird
[16:42] <malimbar> haha, gotta lov eopenbox
[16:42] <Hwkiller> kwin does most of what people like about compiz, and does so way better.
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> I use Enlightenment, malimbar
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> E17
[16:42] <nightdrever> what would be the 'best' option for me?
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> !best
[16:42] <puff> GunArm: Or, to make it more relevant to your task:  find  /sys/block -maxdepth 1 -type l -exec readlink "{}" \;
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> ^ nightdrever
[16:42] <FloodBot1> Ari-Yang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <reisio> nightdrever: for someone who... what, doesn't want compiz?
[16:42] <nightdrever> well if you say compiz is bad anything like it which is good?
[16:42] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: are you using Precise?
[16:42] <reisio> nightdrever: I don't know who said that, but compiz is a wm, it's neither bad nor good
[16:43] <Hwkiller> nightdrever: yes.... kwin.
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever, it's all aobut personal preference...
[16:43] <Hwkiller> from kde.
[16:43] <nightdrever> Precise ... yes
[16:43] <Hwkiller> it has many of the effects that compiz boasts.
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> best way to find out is to /try/ it /yourself/
[16:43] <reisio> they're all mostly feature equivalent
[16:43] <k1l_> nightdrever: just tryout yourself. everybody got own favorites that might not suit you
[16:43] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: if you like unity but your 3D sucks then you can use the 2D Unity session.  Much faster and fewer resources
[16:43] <reisio> have to be to be competitive
[16:44] <nightdrever> my 3d doesnt suck
[16:44] <Hwkiller> in terms of effects, compiz and kwin have the others beat. most others focus more on functionality and speed though.
[16:44] <reisio> also if it did, you could spend $20 and get a dedicated GPU and improve your situation
[16:44] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: if it's running poorly under Ubuntu then.
[16:45] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: have a play, see what you like
[16:45] <vfgbvezav> hi is there a way to check if a file is corrupt in my hdd?
[16:46] <columb> How do I move application screen without Workspace Switcher or upper border?
[16:46] <reisio> vfgbvezav: that would depend on the type of corruption
[16:46] <reisio> vfgbvezav: which might depend on the type of file
[16:46] <reisio> vfgbvezav: more details
[16:46] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: for a light desktop but still feature rich, install lxde and try that
  thx for yout answer, I want to know if MKV's files are corrupt because I messed up my HDD with partioning
[16:47] <vfgbvezav> I lost 10 GO but don't know which files
[16:47] <Actionparsnip>  Colomb: right click decorator -> move to desktop
[16:49] <Actionparsnip> Colomb : askubuntu.com/questions/83761/how-do-i-move-window-to-specific-workplace-via-keyboard
[16:49] <smallmouse> can i use gpg -c to encrpyt a folder ?
[16:50] <elita15> i am interested in networking using linux, can someone please guide me from where do i begin?
[16:50] <malimbar> what do you mean by "networking" - what do you want to do?
[16:50] <Gilligan94> anyine know anything about the nvidia drivers?
[16:50] <Actionparsnip> Elita15: networking in what sensw?
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> Gilligan94, just ask your question, and if someone knows he/she may offer their help
[16:51] <jrib> elita15: you could tar the folder, and then encrypt that
[16:51] <Actionparsnip> Elita15: networking is varied and complex so without clarification the question is nonsensical
[16:51] <jrib> erm
[16:51] <Gilligan94> elita15: Networking on linux should work the same way as on any other platfor,
[16:51] <jrib> smallmouse: you could tar the folder, and then encrypt that
[16:51] <ehhh> i just looked at my cd/dvd drive on the front it says "r-dl", does this mean i can burn dual layer discs on this ??
[16:51] <smallmouse> jrib: tar ? is that just tar command
[16:51] <smallmouse> jrib: so it gpg does not work on folder just file
[16:51] <jrib> smallmouse: right
[16:52] <Actionparsnip>  Elita15 : dns server management comes under the "networking"
[16:52] <smallmouse> jrib: also can a windows user read it with a password
[16:52] <elita15> i am quite unaware of categories of networking, would you mind explaining?
[16:52] <jrib> smallmouse: also see http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/gpg_002dzip.html.  I assume there is some sort of gpg program for windows, yes
[16:52] <Actionparsnip> Elita15: or running a dhcp server
[16:52] <Actionparsnip> Elita15 : so, what do you want to achieve
[16:53] <ehhh> or the "r" probably means read if i'm not mistaken (7 years old computer lol)
[16:53] <llutz> elita15: http://linux.about.com/od/lna_guide/a/gdelna_idx.htm
[16:53] <veridiano> #Mossoró
[16:55] <elita15> actionparsnip,dhcp server.
[16:55] <Fuzzles92> will 12.04.3 get rarings kernal and opensource drivers?
[16:55] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  install normal ubuntu and use tasksel to select tasks
[16:56] <Actionparsnip> Elita15 : look into dhcpd or dhcp3-server
[16:56] <Vec_> Is it possible to login to CUPS server from another computer on the network? Or is the idea that you log into CUPS server from the machine hosting it and configure from there?
[16:56] <Actionparsnip> Fuzzles92: I doubt it
[16:56] <elita15> actually i am interested in networking using routers and switch. i am currently studying ccna
[16:57] <Actionparsnip>  Vec_: yes. It just needs configuration
[16:57] <Fuzzles92> Actionparsnip, can you explain to me what comes to the LTS in .1 .2 .3 .4 etc
[16:57] <Actionparsnip>  Elita15 : so how is this ubuntu related?
[16:58] <Vec_> Actionparsnip: I've configured the cupsd.conf to listen to all connections to the server hostname at port 631. as in -> "Listen <serverhostname>:631
[16:58] <MonkeyDu1t> isnt ccna for Cisco?
[16:58] <Actionparsnip> Fuzzles92 : I'd imagine it will be the same major release number but different minor release numbers
[16:58] <Vec_> Should that not be enough for me to login through http://<serverhostname>:631/admin on another machine?
[16:58] <Fuzzles92> Actionparsnip, i mean what updates does it get if not kernal updates and opensource drivers
[16:59] <irreverant> MonkeyDu1t: yes CCNA is the associate level certification
[16:59] <Actionparsnip> Vec_: can you connect to the socket using your browser?
[16:59] <Vec_> Actionparsnip: Not sure how i can verify if it is. It simply does not load the page.
[16:59] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  typ /j #cisco
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> how do I set my cpufreq to a default governor?
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> if I reboot it will default back to "ondemand"
[17:00] <Vec_> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/cups.html -- im following this guide. But i am unsure on how to authenticate to the server
[17:03] <Fuzzles92> can someone explain the service packs to LTSes plz like 12.04.2
[17:03] <tking> hello, i have a .doc file download from the internet, actual its a time table, on windows pc the tables show, on my linux no tables, i cant see what is written in the table but can see title of the document
[17:03] <reisio> tking: what're you viewing it in?
[17:04] <reisio> Fuzzles92: bug fixes, no doubt
[17:04] <tking> reisio, am viewing it whith libre office
[17:04] <auronandace> Fuzzles92: not really a service pack, just a newer iso with all the latest updates
[17:04] <reisio> tking: you might be able to see the data with catdoc
[17:04] <Fuzzles92> auronandace, does it get kernal updates and newer opensource drivers like from raring?
[17:06] <foofoobar> Hi. Is .bashrc not executed by /bin/bash ?
[17:06] <foofoobar> Because if I login it's not, but if I do a "source .bashrc" manually, it works
[17:06] <reisio> foofoobar: ~/.bashrc ?
[17:06] <foofoobar> reisio: yes
[17:07] <reisio> foofoobar: what've you got in ~/.bash_profile ?
[17:07] <reisio> foofoobar: anything mentioning bashrc?
[17:07] <foofoobar> reisio: no
[17:07] <reisio> foofoobar: might be your problem
[17:07] <foofoobar> reisio: there is just a line for initiating "rvm"
[17:08] <reisio> uhuh
[17:08] <foofoobar> reisio: should I put a "source .bashrc" in the .bash_profile?
[17:08] <reisio> foofoobar: try adding [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc
[17:08] <reisio> little better than just source
[17:08] <foofoobar> reisio: works, thanks :)
[17:09] <reisio> :D
[17:09] <reisio> I'm assuming Ubuntu had something like that by default
[17:09] <elita15> MonkeyDult,   where should i begin from? i know cisco is not related to networking using foss, so what exactly is related to net working using foss?
[17:09] <reisio> so you might seek out what happened / the default Ubuntu ~/.bash_profile
[17:09] <reisio> foofoobar: dpkg -L bash | grep -i skel might be a start
[17:12] <tking> reisio, do i need to instal cat doc?
[17:13] <reisio> tking: catdoc, quite possibly
[17:13] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  i was referring to CCNA
[17:13] <reisio> tking: very small app
[17:13] <ilbandito1000> ciao
[17:14] <ilbandito1000> !list
[17:14] <elita15> monkeydult, okay what about networking through foss, any idea?
[17:14] <tking> reisio, stalled so how do i open it with it?
[17:14] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  what do you want to know or achieve?
[17:15] <reisio> tking: it's a commandline app, open a terminal and run 'catdoc file.doc'
[17:15] <JamJar> Is it possible to have a preseed file specify the particular version of a package to install?
[17:16] <elita15> i  was learning networking  in microsoft and cisco . i just want to know about networking on linux platform.
[17:16] <Hwkiller> right, but what about networking? that's a really vague request
[17:17] <iceman> ciao a tutti
[17:17] <tking> reisio, missing some data still
[17:17] <debian-n00b> has anyone had problems getting 3 or more monitors working with 13.04? Whenever I turn mirroring off compiz keeps crashing and the menu bar disappears. Any ideas?
[17:17] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  then you should do some reading, as you did for that other OS you just mentioned
[17:17] <tking> reisio, actual no differience
[17:19] <elita15> MonkeyDult, okay thankds
[17:19] <elita15> *thanks
[17:19] <saiarcot895> JamJar: like having a text file with a list of packages and versions to install?
[17:19] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  this may be a good start
[17:19] <GeorgeTorwell> if I turn on a vpn connection while I have an app connected to an existing connection, what happens to the apps using the existing connection?
[17:19] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  http://www.basicconfig.com/linuxnetwork
[17:19] <reisio> tking: and you're sure the exact same file shows a table on Windows?
[17:20] <JamJar> saiarcot895: i have a particular package that I want to fix at a certain version when I preseed, as the latest update has a bug that I wish to avoid
[17:20] <elita15> MonkeyDult, thankyou so much.
[17:20] <tking> reiso this is a screenshot  missing words in take (check brackets) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46512205/Screenshot%20from%202013-06-26%2018%3A18%3A35.png
[17:20] <x56_> tes
[17:21] <JamJar> saiarcot895: (specifically I want to hold plymouth at 0.8.2-2ubuntu30 - but presumably this is a general case)
[17:21] <nightdrever> I just installed kwin and kde stuff... now when i restart pc i get differet log in screen, and when i type kwin in terminal i get some effects but dashboard and 'taskbar' dissapears how do i remove this?
[17:22] <ProFlashback> Getting this when trying to install Ubuntu server LTS: http://pastebin.com/riKqNbi6 - ideas?
[17:22] <x56_> sudo apt-get remove
[17:22] <saiarcot895> JamJar: (I had to google this) try using this: "sudo echo <Package Name> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections"
[17:22] <saiarcot895> JamJar: Replace <Package Name> with the name of the package
[17:22] <JamJar> saiarcot895: right, but i want to do this as part of a preseeded installation
[17:23] <JamJar> saiarcot895: as here - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[17:23] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: what does it say in the log, or on vc4?
[17:25] <axsuul> In 12.04, where exactly am I suppose to add a DNS server? I'm unable to ping google.com and I'm suspecting its a DNS issue
[17:26] <saiarcot895> JamJar: I have no experience with this, but based on the example config file, I would say it's somewhere in the base-installer section
[17:26] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, http://i.imgur.com/04yt0km.jpg
[17:26] <saiarcot895> JamJar: I'll try to research this
[17:26] <ProFlashback> sorry for the picture, can't copy and paste it :/
[17:27] <Vec_> How do i find out what Color Model my printer works with?
[17:27] <Vec_> (configuring cups)
[17:27] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: about an inch down from the top of that, what do you see?
[17:28] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, sec, will run back down to garage ;p
[17:28] <Hwkiller> Vec_: you mean cmyk and such?
[17:28] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: maybe more if you've got a bigger screen than I'm on just now ;-)
[17:28] <Vec_> Hwkiller: Exactly
[17:28] <Hwkiller> Vec_: what colors do you put into the printer itself?
[17:28] <Hwkiller> usually it says on the ink tank itsely.
[17:28] <Hwkiller> itself
[17:29] <litropy> What would cause network manager to unlist a wifi network after an unexpected disconnect?
[17:29] <litropy> Restarting list the network again.
[17:29] <litropy> lists*
[17:29] <maetrik> When I run "date" on my 13.04 x64 server, the output is "Wed Jun 26 13:29:11 EDT 2013". How can I change this to a 12 hour AM/PM format?
[17:29] <Vec_> Hwkiller: one small black tank, one bigass black tank, one yellow, one magneta, one cyan
[17:30] <litropy> Is there a log for network manager other than dmesg?
[17:30] <Hwkiller> so I'm gonna guess cmyk
[17:30] <Hwkiller> (cyan, magenta, yellow, black)
[17:30] <Vec_> why not kcmy
[17:30] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, http://i.imgur.com/jj87Qwa.jpg
[17:30] <saiarcot895> JamJar: This seems to fit: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/preseed-advanced.html#preseed-hooks
[17:30] <Hwkiller> oh, I didn't know there was such a thing
[17:30] <Hwkiller> hm...
[17:30] <Vec_> Hwkilller yeah thats what im confused about
[17:30] <Vec_> but i should google
[17:30] <Vec_> :p
[17:31] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: okay, so it looks like your install media isn't working
[17:31] <saiarcot895> JamJar: I think you could use preseed/late_command and have the dpkg command(s) there
[17:31] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: and it looks like it has failed to get a bunch of packages off it
[17:31] <ProFlashback> i see
[17:31] <joelwallis> How can I change my user's shell to zsh in Ubuntu 13.04? I'm trying to run "chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh" but it's not working
[17:31] <JamJar> saiarcot895: i'd probabbly want to do it before the offending package gets installed
[17:31] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, is there any way to download the packages from the internet?
[17:31] <JamJar> plymouth is pretty deep in the OS
[17:31] <ProFlashback> i have no other blank cd's left
[17:32] <Vec_> Hwkiller: its prolly cmyk, due to the fact that there is no tank to the right of the rightmost one
[17:32] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: yes but your install image needs to be working correctly first
[17:32] <Vec_> Hwkiller: it fits with cmyk reading from left to right. does not fit with kcmy
[17:32] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, so, try to find new cd and re-burn image?
[17:33] <Zw> Hi! What is the difference between byoub and screen?
[17:33] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: use a USB stick
[17:33] <saiarcot895> JamJar: then it would be between partman/early_command and preseed/late_command
[17:33] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, just extract it onto the stick or?
[17:33] <ProFlashback> or is there some tool
[17:33] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: depends on what OS you're using to create the stick
[17:33] <gordonjcp> if you already have something Unixy (Linux, BSD, OSX) you can just use dd to put the image on
[17:34] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, I'm using Windows 8
[17:34] <gordonjcp> oh, no idea, I don't know how to use Windows
[17:34] <ProFlashback> (6.2.900)
[17:34] <ahungry> hey guys, how do I list the latest version of a package with apt-get
[17:34] <gordonjcp> check the wiki
[17:34] <gordonjcp> !install
[17:34] <ahungry> I want to see what php upgrade is available
[17:34] <ahungry> aptitude search php doesn't show version #s
[17:34] <ahungry> (non-gui, server here)
[17:34] <gordonjcp> ahungry: dpkg?
[17:34] <gordonjcp> maybe dpkg -l <package>
[17:35] <gordonjcp> that might only show you it if it's installed, not sure
[17:35] <ahungry> to see the latest available for upgrade, not necessarily what I have installed
[17:35] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, alright, thanks. I'll try that and I'll just idle here
[17:35] <ahungry> my version is out of date a little bit
[17:35] <ProFlashback> Thanks (:
[17:35] <Hwkiller> Vec_: actually, I think the cmyk/kcmy is a preference.
[17:35] <ahungry> but I want to see just the version I could upgrade to if I do update
[17:35] <Hwkiller> do you want black or color printed first, essentially.
[17:35] <Hwkiller> not sure, but that's what I'm reading.
[17:36] <saiarcot895> JamJar: You could also have apt install the buggy package, force a downgrade, and then lock the package version
[17:37] <Zw>  What is the difference between byoub and screen?
[17:37] <Hwkiller> never heard of byoub.
[17:37] <Hwkiller> is that a typo?
[17:37] <visievion> heh byobu Im sure.
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> byoubo is newer and under more current development Zw
[17:38] <Hwkiller> ah
[17:38] <Hwkiller> I use tmux.
[17:38] <MonkeyDu1t> screen <3
[17:38] <SolarisBoy> +1
[17:39] <deadweasel> +1
[17:39] <ejcweb> I want Chromium to launch every time with a certain flag specified. I can create a shortcut for this, but don't know how to specify the flag for generic URLs in other applications which will cause Chrome to be opened??
[17:39] <th0r> noiro, did that b43 module work?
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> i have been trying to force myself to switch to tmux or byobou - but screen works absolutely fine for me
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> ejcweb: make chromium your default browser
[17:40] <deadweasel> SolarisBoy: i've wanted to try terminator and some others, but screen is great.
[17:40] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: you can move the .desktop entry to ~/.local/applications and modify what it execs.
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> deadweasel: oh i use terminator =)
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> deadweasel: terminator + screen is heaven
[17:40] <deadweasel> i guess I need to look into terminator too.
[17:40] <ejcweb> SolarisBoy: It is my default browser. I want it to run 'chromium-browser --disable-accelerated-compositing' whenever it is launched though.
[17:41] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: so... $ cp /usr/share/applications/chromium* ~/.local/share/applications
[17:41] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: What is the .desktop entry?
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> ejcweb: ahh i see
[17:41] <deadweasel> hard to find info w/out encountering Arnold Schwarzanegger.
[17:41] <MonkeyDu1t> or chuck norris
[17:41] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: then open ~/.local/share/applications/chromium*desktop in a texteditor
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> that guy is scary
[17:41] <Hwkiller> change the Exec= line to include your flags.
[17:43] <Hwkiller> A .desktop entry is basically some metadata about gui applications. e.g., what it's called, what to execute, what it handles, descriptions, the category it's in (e.g., videa, internet)
[17:43] <deadweasel> that's quite a feature list.  do you like the tabbing, SolarisBoy ?
[17:43] <deadweasel> ;;title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(terminal_emulator)
[17:43] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Thanks. What do you mean by chromium*desktop?
[17:44] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: I'm not sure whether it's called chromium-browser.desktop or just chromium.desktop
[17:44] <Hwkiller> the * is a wildcard.
[17:44] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Aha, I see. Thanks,
[17:44] <Hwkiller> so chromium*desktop could mean chromium-browser.desktop or chromium-Idon'tknowthename.browser, etc.
[17:45] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Incidentally, why do I need to move it the .local to do this?
[17:45] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: so that it only applies to your user, but mostly so that any time chromium updates, it won't remove the changes to the original.
[17:46] <Hwkiller> if chromium updates, it'll replace the one in /usr/share. putting it in your home will avoid that.
[17:46] <maetrik> When I run "date" on my 13.04 x64 server, the output is "Wed Jun 26 13:29:11 EDT 2013". How can I change this to a 12 hour AM/PM format?
[17:47] <Hwkiller> maetrik: date +%r
[17:47] <Hwkiller> see date --help
[17:47] <noiro> th04, worked like a charm. Thank you!
[17:47] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: And is the shortcut searched for first in ~/.local/share/applications first before /usr/share/applications ?
[17:47] <Hwkiller> yeah.
[17:48] <Hwkiller> as per the xdg standard.
[17:48] <maetrik> Hwkiller that means that by default ubuntu server displays in 24 hour format even if the server is on the EST/EDT timezone and region settings usa?
[17:48] <Hwkiller> maetrik: well, I think that's a standard on unix/like systems.
[17:48] <maetrik> ok cool
[17:48] <maetrik> good to know
[17:48] <Hwkiller> np.
[17:50] <ehhh> random question, i think my hdd's are ATA, will i be able to use SATA drives in this computer (stationary) or are the plugs different?
[17:51] <Teh_Bucket> ehhh, how old's the motherboard?
[17:51] <reisio> ehhh: the plugs differ
[17:51] <ehhh> the whole computer's about 7 years old
[17:51] <Teh_Bucket> unless it's years and years old, it's probly got sata plugs. look at it and google what sata plugs look like
[17:51] <reisio> ehhh: thin ribbons are sata, very wide ribbons are pata
[17:52] <reisio> ehhh: http://images.yourdictionary.com/images/computer/_SATPAT.JPG
[17:52] <ehhh> i found a very thin cable in the mess, looks like the sata you linked reisio
[17:52] <msh210> hi, all. chown isn't working. That is, I do sudo chown -RL foo:foo /dir # (also without sudo) and ls still shows root:root. (There's also no output to screen, not even with 2>&1.) I checked /etc/passwd and /etc/group to make sure the foo:foo is correct. (This is Raring.) What can I do?
[17:52] <ehhh> but don't you need two cables to connect?
[17:52] <reisio> ehhh: in the mess _inside_ your computer? :p
[17:53] <reisio> ehhh: usually just one, from the mobo to the drive
[17:53] <Pici> msh210: Does the filesystem on which /dir is mounted support permissions?
[17:53] <msh210> pici, how do I know?
[17:53] <ehhh> reisio: yes it's so stupidly built the secondary hard drive is floating in mid air LOL :P
[17:54] <reisio> ehhh: heh, k
[17:54] <reisio> ehhh: yeah if you have a thin sata cable inside a computer, and it's connected to the mobo, you should be all set for sata
[17:54] <Pici> msh210: If you tell me what filesystem its on, I can tell you. Check the output of   mount
[17:54] <axsuul> In 12.04, where exactly am I suppose to add a DNS server? I'm unable to ping google.com and I'm suspecting its a DNS issue
[17:54] <ehhh> reisio: sounds good, i will need the additional space if i can get the computer running as stable as possible
[17:54] <msh210> pici /dev/sda1 on /tee type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[17:55] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: The shortcut now works great. How can I fix the Unity shortcut for Chromium now?
[17:55] <ejcweb> It doesn't use the new one I've made.
[17:55] <saiarcot895> axsuul: Check network settings, and you'll have to change the IPv4 settings to Automatic (DHCP only) or Manual
[17:55] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: you can probably log out and back in, and it should work.
[17:55] <debian-n00b> has anyone had problems with unity crashing while using 3 monitors and disabling mirroring?
[17:55] <Znoosey> axsuul, instead of guessing try to ping an outside address, like 8.8.8.8
[17:55] <axsuul> saiarcot895: how about through terminal?
[17:55] <Hwkiller> unity uses the same standard.
[17:55] <Pici> msh210: Is this your windows partition?
[17:55] <Hwkiller> it probably just needs to update its cache.
[17:55] <axsuul> Znoosey: that works, i'm SSHed in remotely
[17:55] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Thanks for your help.
[17:56] <Hwkiller> np man.
[17:57] <msh210> pici, no..... I mean, I've never seen the machine: I only ssh into it. But afaik it runs only ubuntu
[17:58] <praveen___> How to recover deleted files in 12.04 LTS with Photorec ?
[17:58] <Pici> msh210: Can you check in /etc/fstab if it says something other than fuseblk for that device?
[17:58] <Znoosey> axsuul, then edit the file /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf
[17:59] <axsuul> Znoosey: hmm its empty
[17:59] <Znoosey> oops sorry dhclient.conf
[17:59] <Znoosey> :P
[17:59] <msh210> pici  it says ntfs
[18:00] <axsuul> Cool, so I uncommented and have this line: prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8;
[18:00] <Znoosey> axsuul, it should have an entry for domain name servers
[18:00] <Znoosey> yeah that is googles dns
[18:00] <Znoosey> so it should work nicely
[18:01] <axsuul> Znoosey: do i need to restart anything for it take effect?
[18:01] <Znoosey> axsuul, i can't remember
[18:01] <Znoosey> been a while since i did this
[18:02] <Pici> msh210: If you need to set permissions on all the files in that partition so that you modify them by your users, you'll need to change the mount options in fstab for that.  you can use the uid and gid options for that. See man mount.fuse details.
[18:02] <ehhh> will xubuntu 12.04 64 bit need a burnt dvd compared to 32bit? 64bit is 707mb and 32bit is 689. . i currently only have cds available
[18:04] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, Just curious -- why a disc instead of a flash drive?
[18:04] <ehhh> ForSpareParts: the computer is old and i just get errors when i try to boot from usb
[18:04] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, Ah, that's fucking lame.
[18:04] <gordonjcp> ehhh: can it PXE boot?
[18:04] <reisio> almost as lame as adding 7MB to an install image
[18:04] <Alina-malina> please OP of this channel contact me!
[18:04] <reisio> when it worked fine without that extra 7
[18:05] <reisio> Alina-malina: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[18:05] <nightdrever> Hi, im in compiz and i want to disable Ubuntu unity plugin.... however there is no check box next to it so i cant.... any way to fix?
[18:05] <ehhh> reisio: my thoughts exactly :P
[18:05] <ehhh> gordonjcp: what's a pxe boot? i'll google it
[18:05] <reisio> !notunity @ nightdrever
[18:05] <reisio> !notunity
[18:05] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that
[18:05] <reisio> nightdrever: ^
[18:05] <reisio> ehhh: network thing
[18:05] <msh210> pici ... this may be the XY problem. What I reallyneed is for user foo to have full permissions on the file rwxrwxrwx on eachfile & dir should suffice, right?
[18:06] <reisio> ehhh: it's possible it's the way you put the image onto the USB that's causing it, however
[18:06] <OerHeks> reisio, maybe !nounity ?
[18:06] <reisio> OerHeks: good piont
[18:06] <reisio> and also, good point
[18:06] <lmat> I have ubuntu installed on a computer and it stopped letting me SSH to it (timeout, like the service isn't running anymore), so I restarted the machine, then it wasn't responsive at all.
[18:06] <reisio> 'cept !notunity already worked :)
[18:06] <lmat> Then, I stuck a monitor and keyboard on it, restarted, and nothing shows up on the monitor. What should I do?
[18:06] <lmat> (It's been in service for about 3 or 4 years now)
[18:06] <reisio> lmat: what do you see after your bios screen?
[18:07] <lmat> reisio: I don't see the bios screen :(
[18:07] <ehhh> reisio: i don't think so, i've tried universal usb installer, yumi, unetbootin, live-usb-install
[18:07] <msh210> lmat is it plugged in?
[18:07] <reisio> lmat: then talk to #hardware
[18:07] <litepool> rsync -a -r -z -v --progress --partial -e ssh /root/.litecoind root@ip:/root/.litecoind
[18:07] <reisio> ehhh: that's a lot :p
[18:07] <ehhh> reisio: the usb boots on another laptop i have lying around so i'm pretty sure it's the computer
[18:07] <lmat> I tried pressing the F keys during boot, and it was apparent to me that it got to some sort of bios setup ... I guess.
[18:07] <reisio> ehhh: entirely possible
[18:08] <Pici> msh210: yes, but you can set that via fstab as well.
[18:08] <msh210> pici ... this may be the XY problem. What I really need is for user foo to have full permissions on the file rwxrwxrwx on eachfile & dir should suffice, no matter who the owner & group is, right?
[18:08] <msh210> pici ok thanks
[18:11] <Friberg_> So, My newly setup linux-machine with fglrx-drivers from amd running 6x21.5" full-hd displays in 3x2 configuration (3 wide, 2 height). When I startup, i get the loginscreen without trouble. Once logged in, i only get a big mouse pointer, background image on all screens and one blank white box on the primary screen.
[18:11] <msh210> have a great day, all; thanks for your help, Pici
[18:11] <Friberg_> Whats wrong? or how do i troubleshoot it?
[18:12] <debian-n00b> Friberg: I am having a similar problem.
[18:12] <Friberg_> Moving the mouse gave me something about ubuntu and internal error
[18:12] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: really?
[18:13] <Friberg_> compiz is screewing things up here.
[18:13] <Friberg_> it actually segfaults.
[18:13] <Friberg_> Also, its running on a Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB
[18:14] <debian-n00b> yeah.. I am running 3 monitors on a Radeon HD 7990 I think the model. My problem is whenever I turn of monitor mirroring compiz crashes
[18:15] <debian-n00b> turn off
[18:15] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: sounds like the same problem
[18:15] <Friberg_> i run fine with mirroring
[18:15] <Friberg_> but that really doesn't give me use for 6 screens :P
[18:16] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: are you running 13.04?
[18:16] <debian-n00b> lol.. same here
[18:17] <Friberg_> But yeah, once compiz crashes, I have no desktop.
[18:20] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: I'll try 13.10 and see how that works.. just told it to upgrade.. :P
[18:22] <Friberg_> btw, is 13.10 / saucy equivalent to say debians testing?
[18:22] <Friberg_> or what is it?
[18:22] <hacktus0> hello evry body, What is server NAS and gluster?
[18:23] <MonkeyDu1t> hacktus0  do you want to know what a NAS is?
[18:23] <hacktus0> MonkeyDu1t, yes
[18:24] <MonkeyDu1t> hacktus0  very roughly: it's a HDD with networking capabilities
[18:24] <Teh_Bucket> ok, i've been wrestling with 12.04's desktop, managed to get it to somewhat good, and now alt-tab doesn't even work!
[18:24] <DJones> Friberg_: 13.10 is still in development, its not due for release until October, you should be aware that there can be breakages while its being developed
[18:24] <Friberg_> more like, small computer with much HDD and specific software, mostly for webmanagement.
[18:25] <hacktus0> it's cloud, MonkeyDu1t
[18:25] <Friberg_> DJones: ah, i see. So is everything new going directly there? like Sid in debian?
[18:25] <Guest75453> Fresh install of 13.04 (64 bit) and when I open the file manager, it crashes (without being able to select a folder, move the selected folder with the keyboard...) - after a minute, it greys out and force quits. Any ideas?
[18:25] <MonkeyDu1t> hacktus0  plenty tutorials, here's one http://sohoadvisers.com/tutorials/ubuntu-linux/create-a-nas-using-ubuntu-linux
[18:26] <Vec_> If i want to upgrade an application on my ubuntu server, can i simply do "apt-get upgrade <packagename> ?
[18:26] <DJones> Friberg_: You'll get a better description/details of it if you ask in #ubuntu+1 any support or issues are normally discussed there until its released
[18:26] <Friberg_> DJones: i see :)
[18:26] <Friberg_> thanks
[18:27] <DJones> Friberg_: I've not used it yet, I normally wait until about a month before release to start using it :)
[18:27] <hacktus0> I saw in newspaper of linux : we can do NAS with gluster (it's program)
[18:27] <hacktus0> MonkeyDu1t I saw in newspaper of linux : we can do NAS with gluster (it's program)
[18:28] <Friberg_> DJones: well, i've played around with ubuntu once before, and that was like 10 years ago
[18:28] <MonkeyDu1t> !find gluster | hacktus0
[18:28] <Guest75453> Friberg_, what do you use at the moment?
[18:28] <Friberg_> just thought i'd give it a shot once again since my debian install didn't want to work on the first try
[18:28] <Friberg_> Guest75453: debian :)
[18:28] <Friberg_> atleast for my servers
[18:29] <Friberg_> my desktop is still at win 8 thou.. and I hate it.
[18:29] <Friberg_> but the multiple monitor setup works fine
[18:29] <Guest75453> Linux (of any kind) giving you monitor issues?
[18:29] <hacktus0> with glusterfs-server ,ubottu,MonkeyDu1t
[18:29] <Vec_> I want to update my CUPS to the newest version, i have 1.5.3 atm and im pretty sure its bugged with my printer. What is the best way of updating to the newest package without losing my config file?
[18:29] <gordonjcp> I must play with gluster at some point
[18:29] <Friberg_> Guest75453: yep. One monitor works good, maybe two. but 6.. never.
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Friberg_: thing is, it's a bit of an edge case
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Friberg_: if *everyone* had 6-monitor setups...
[18:30] <Friberg_> gordonjcp: yepp, no once uses that :)
[18:30] <Guest75453> 6? greedy :-P
[18:30] <Guest75453> 6 14inch CRTs?
[18:30] <Friberg_> hehe ;)
[18:30] <Friberg_> 6 x 21.5" full-hd IPS panels
[18:32] <_helios_> Hey I upgraded to xubuntu 13 and I have been having allot of crashes when using web browsers anyone know what could be causing it?
[18:32] <ehhh> ok so the geniuses who made xubuntu made it 5mb too big for cds, i have the option to truncate it (write until end of disc) or overburn (write until end of image), which do you think i should try (first)? (i'm thinking overburn . . )
[18:32] <Friberg_> ehhh: I'm thinking USB :)
[18:32] <jrib> ehhh: don't use a cd?
[18:33] <ehhh> lol for the 100th time i can only use discs because usb won't boot properly on the computer i'm trying to install to :P
[18:33] <Friberg_> pxe
[18:33] <_helios_> use a dvd
[18:33] <jrib> ehhh: dvd
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Friberg_: I suggested that
[18:33] <Friberg_> pxe is awesome
[18:33] <gordonjcp> ehhh: remove the drive, put it in something that *does* boot off USB, install, replace
[18:33] <gordonjcp> ehhh: boom, headshot
[18:33] <Friberg_> :D
[18:33] <ehhh> no chance of getting it working with the cd? i'm out of dvds untill atleast tomorrow
[18:34] <jrib> ehhh: use minimal install
[18:34] <superdisk> Hello, fellows
[18:34] <jrib> !minimal | ehhh
[18:34] <superdisk> I have come to this chatroom at the request of my friend, C. Michael
[18:34] <gordonjcp> ehhh: you don't need a DVD, you need a USB stick
[18:34] <superdisk> *ahem*
[18:34] <superdisk> Windows is good.
[18:34] <jrib> !ot | superdisk
[18:35] <_helios_> Does anyone know why xubuntu 13 keeps crashing when using browser?
[18:35] <jrib> _helios_: you should say 13.04 or 13.10
[18:35] <ForSpareParts> jrib, I didn't know about the minimal installer. Handy!
[18:35] <gordonjcp> _helios_: when you say "crashing", what *exactly* happens?
[18:35] <_helios_> Well the screen gets distorted
[18:35] <_helios_> like an old nintendo game when it messed up
[18:35] <_helios_> And nothing works.
[18:35] <Friberg_> broken graphics driver?
[18:36] <gordonjcp> ye
[18:36] <_helios_> how would I revert back to the old graphics driver it was using in 12.10?
[18:36] <_helios_> I never had this problem in 12.10
[18:36] <istiaque> When i use windows 7 ,,i use pixie (Pixie is a utility made especially for webmasters and designers. It is a color picker with few extra goodies.),What is the alternative soft in linux ?
[18:36] <curVV> Hi anyone know what gvfsd-metadata does?
[18:36] <ehhh> jrib: minimal install looks good, would i have to install the gui manually after install? (i want to try xfce to see results compared to ubuntu)
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, check out Additional Drivers tab under Software Sources
[18:37] <jrib> ehhh: you can just install xubuntu-desktop package.  You should be able to select it during the install, but if you don't, you can also just install it afterwards
[18:37] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: I have been there which one should I pick loL?
[18:37] <jrib> ehhh: do you already have ubuntu?
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, go with open source one _helios_
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> radeon xorg one
[18:38] <Ari-Yang> fglrx is a horrible driver =/
[18:38] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: I think thats the one it was set at let me check.
[18:38] <Friberg_> really?
[18:38] <Friberg_> i actually had three choices there. two fglrx and one something else.
[18:38] <ehhh> jrib: ubuntu went ahead and failed on me about 10 times the last days . . i don't think xubuntu will be that much more in terms of that because i keep having issues on this old thing
[18:39] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, it was already set to open source or fglrx proprietary?
[18:39] <ehhh> jrib: and i tried to fresh install some minutes ago and it also failed and put me on the live cd . .
[18:39] <jrib> ehhh: ok. Then fresh install may suit you best
[18:39] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: one sec Im checking now
[18:39] <Ari-Yang> kk
[18:39] <Vec_> Hey guys, I'm trying to update to the newest version of CUPS on my ubuntu system. Doing apt-get update then upgrade does not update my CUPS. How can i upgrade that one spesific application?
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, you might find this interesting http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81666-AMD-Has-Massive-Radeon-Patch-Set-Power-Management!#post338568 (also other users who use radeon)
[18:40] <mumpitzel> Vec_: apt-get install <package>
[18:40] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: It is set as Using X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[18:40] <Friberg_> I knew I should have installed this on my SSD. This upgrade takes forever.
[18:40] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: open source
[18:40] <Vec_> mumpitzel: How do i know what the package name is?
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> Ari-Yang, oh nvidia...
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> I' not sure then _helios_
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> try out another driver in that list
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> then reboot
[18:41] <nightdrever> how do i stop .... the unlock keyring .... it happens quite alot?
[18:41] <_helios_> k brb
[18:41] <_helios_> brb
[18:41] <_helios_> exit
[18:42] <mumpitzel> Vec_: for cups? dpkg -l |grep -i cups   should give you a hint
[18:42] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, alternativeto.net suggests gpick -- not sure if it's what you need, but worth a shot! https://code.google.com/p/gpick/
[18:42] <Vec_> mumpitzel: Yeah. Writing that stuff now (started learning linux/ubuntu yesterday, please bear with ^^)
[18:43] <RandPaul2016> 1
[18:43] <RandPaul2016> "0
[18:43] <RandPaul2016> sorry
[18:43] <RandPaul2016> was drying off my keyboard
[18:43] <nightdrever> i have set up ubuntu to auto log in ........ how do i change it so i enter a password?
[18:43] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, Available from the Software Center, or apt-get if you prefer (not sure if you're a big terminal user or not...?)
[18:43] <Vec_> mumpitzel: Am i guessing correctly if i guess that 1.5.3-0ubuntu8 is the full and total package name? Otherwise im pretty lost
[18:44] <jrib> nightdrever: how did you set it up in the first place?
[18:44] <mumpitzel> you guess wrongly. do you tell apt versions when you install something?
[18:44] <mumpitzel>  1.5.3-0ubuntu8  is certainly no package name
[18:44] <nightdrever> when i install ubuntu i gave password but got it to log in automatically
[18:44] <istiaque> i am new in linux distro...
[18:44] <Vec_> Thats what im infinitly confused about. The whole apt-get thing seems to only draw from sources.list and download/install whatever is new there
[18:45] <Pici> Vec_: why do you think you need a new version of cups?
[18:45] <mumpitzel> Vec_: that's its job
 thank you..
[18:45] <istiaque> i try my best
[18:45] <Vec_> However, the cups package im getting from apt-get is old. I need the newest one due to a bug in this package
[18:45] <mumpitzel> Vec_: what makes you sure a newer one is available?
[18:45] <Vec_> Pici: Canon printers struggle with a bug that halts printing halfway through with CUPS
[18:46] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, no problem. Hope it does the trick for you!
[18:46] <Vec_> mumpitzel: it says so on the website
[18:48] <nigga123> Faaackkk
[18:48] <ehhh> do you guys know if cheap stationary (desktop?) computers today are worth it and can run linux well for multimedia purposes? it would cost me about the same to buy a cheap media computer than to buy an expensive music streamer and it would only do that . .
[18:48] <mumpitzel> ehhh: any cheap PC today can stream music and movies and can show them both too
[18:49] <Pici> Vec_: Which website? What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:49] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, I've been using a repurposed desktop box as a home theater PC backed by Ubuntu with moderate success. A few problems here and there, but nothing game breaking.
[18:50] <Vec_> Pici: http://www.cups.org/, im running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:51] <rlab> Hello, On one of our ubuntu box's while in terminal this keeps appearing at random intervals, does anyone know what causes it?
[18:51] <rlab> unable to resolve host rlab-OptiPlex-330.rlab.org.uk
[18:51] <ehhh> that's what i was hoping to hear :) i'm at least giving my old desktop computer a go but i've had so many problems the last days that i'm starting to consider a new cheap one for the sole purpose is to play music stored locally and watch some movies here and there. and i think if this thing can play 1080p and .mkv without problems then anything should lol
[18:51] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, I've found that XBMC is an awesome, awesome, awesome piece of software, particularly if you're going to be using your computer with a TV. Easy to set up, very flexible, very powerful, cross platform, remote controllable from browsers, phones, tablets, and it does a bang-up job of streaming to other computers, too.
[18:52] <Pici> Vec_: Ubuntu will only provide security updates after a release has come out.  1.5.3 is the latest version that is available in 12.04.  There might be an unsupported PPA out there that provides a newer versions.
[18:53] <ForSpareParts> I run XBMC on my HTPC pretty much all the time, and I have it installed on other boxes to stream content from the HTPC. Very slick. One of my roommates actually has XBMC on his Raspberry Pi, and he uses it the same way, as a sort of thin-client interface to the HTPC.
[18:53] <ehhh> ForSpareParts: basically that's my plan, control it with an android device be it a tablet or phone . . i tried xbmc on this computer but that almost killed it . . i like to have at least one or two dedicated music players for different types of music (otherwise it gets clustered) so xbmcbuntu i'm half considering but the plan was to run xbmc
[18:53] <Vec_> Pici: Ok. Thanks.
[18:55] <Programmer_> i am considering removing kde from kubuntu. what is a better and fast desktop and doesnt cause as much lag?
[18:55] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, You may want to use a full Ubuntu install -- handy for when something breaks, or there's something you want to do/watch on a website somewhere. XBMC does content presentation -- read-only, and it's very strict about that.
[18:55] <istiaque> What is the best linux distro for a web-developer?
[18:55] <Pici> istiaque: If you're expecting us to tell you anything other than Ubuntu, you're in the wrong place.
[18:55] <ehhh> ForSpareParts: yes i'm thinking ubuntu or xubuntu is the best option, since it's a computer we
[18:56] <Pici> istiaque: use ##linux for asking about other linux distros.
[18:56] <ehhh> are talking about why not have the possibilities of an computer lol :P
 ok ,,  i understood,,thank you very much....
[18:57] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, If you're new  to linux, Ubuntu is known for being relatively easy to get up and running with, and it's about as close to "the standard" as anything is in the open-source community. What are you looking for/why are  you making the switch?
[18:58] <ripplebit> guys how do i start cinnamon?
[18:58] <Whitor> Hi all. If I switch to a terminal only screen (ie ctrl-alt-F1) and start VLC with a local video file, it plays the file in the terminal doing its best with ascii characters. If I do the same thing in a terminal window... it spawns the VLC gui and plays the file in there... How can I force it to remain in the terminal I typed the command in ?
[18:58] <ForSpareParts> ripplebit, Log out, and select it at the login screen (assuming you installed the package from apt).
[18:58] <auronandace> ripplebit: log out and pick it in the login screen
[18:58] <ripplebit> thanks mate
[19:02] <ripplebit> guys there's a big virtual keyboard at the bottom of the screen(cinnamon). how do i disable it?
 i think because ,,all the web developer tools have any other distro.. ,,it my thinking..
[19:02] <Ari-Yang> ....poke around with settings ripplebit
[19:03] <Ari-Yang> !cinnamon
[19:06] <aringan> hi, I am using ubuntu 8.04, and non of the commands I used to list running services worked for me !
[19:06] <exaem> lspci
[19:06] <exaem> wait
[19:06] <_helios_> Hey guys that fixed the problem I was having thanks allot ;)
[19:06] <xangua> aringan: use a supported ubuntu version ;)
[19:06] <exaem> doesn't
[19:06] <exaem> ps aux | less work?
[19:07] <IdleOne> aringan: 8.04 is no longer supported. You should upgrade to at least 12.04
[19:07] <ripplebit> guys which dir is ~/.themes?
[19:07] <Friberg_> lol, after upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 my grub hangs on load.
[19:07] <IdleOne> ripplebit: that would be /home/ripplebit/.themes
[19:07] <ripplebit> thanks
[19:07] <xangua> !ubuntu+1 | Friberg_
[19:07] <Friberg_> now I can't even start Windows again..
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> ripplebit, Is orca running?
[19:07] <IdleOne> Friberg_: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[19:07] <Friberg_> Yeye.
[19:08] <xangua> mmmm :/
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> ripplebit, Try killall orca in a terminal
[19:08] <aringan> I am trying but this is my first time , and i don't know about some of them like ;
[19:08] <aringan> Configuration file `/etc/bash.bashrc'
[19:08] <aringan>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
[19:08] <aringan>  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
[19:08] <aringan>    What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
[19:08] <aringan>     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[19:08] <aringan>     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[19:08] <FloodBot1> aringan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, Sorry, could you explain what you mean by that?
[19:09] <jrib> aringan: you get that during package upgrades...
[19:09] <IdleOne> aringan: type Y and hit enter
[19:09] <exaem> aringan: just click n
[19:09] <usr13> Looks like one of our factoids needs to be updated.
[19:09] <gummyw0rmz> meow
[19:09] <_helios_> So whoever it was that just helped me I think they left the chat but thanks allot again
[19:10] <rlab> rlab> Hello, On one of our ubuntu box's while in terminal this keeps appearing at random intervals, does anyone know what causes it?
 unable to resolve host rlab-OptiPlex-330.rlab.org.uk
[19:10] <aringan> 1
[19:10] <aringan>  2
[19:10] <aringan>  3
[19:10] <aringan>  4
[19:10] <aringan>  5
[19:10] <FloodBot1> aringan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:10] <aringan>  6
[19:10] <aringan>  7
[19:10] <IdleOne> exaem: seeing how it is his first time. He probably hasn't changed anything in bashrc, it is best to use the updated package.
[19:10] <rlab> and hes gone
[19:10] <curVV> hello, how can i see which process is using gvfsd-metadata to cause jdb2 journalling to constantly grind away at my hard drive? iotop shows jbd2/sda1-8 at 99% io usage.
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> !enter > aringan
[19:11] <ripplebit> IdleOne: how can i extract a zip?
[19:11] <aringan> there is a question I don't know what to answer !
[19:11] <jrib> aringan: tell us the question
[19:11] <usr13> ripplebit: unzip
[19:11] <ripplebit> thanks
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> aringan, relax.
[19:11] <aringan> I can't send it here
[19:12] <aringan> it gives me flood
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > aringan
 i think all web-development tools  are already have any other distro..web-development tools like adobe dreamweaver,,ntepad++,,etc
[19:12] <polynomial2> I'm install ubuntu LTS and the installation is stuck on configurtion console-setup
[19:12] <polynomial2> I'm able to read syslog through a seperate terminal. any ideas what I should do here?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> polynomial2, This during the install?
[19:13] <ripplebit> guys how dod i get to my ~/.themes folder?
[19:13] <polynomial2> wilee-nilee: this is during the  install. according to syslog it's been stuck for 20 minutes
[19:13] <rlab> cd ~./themes
[19:13] <rlab> derp
[19:13] <motaka2> where is the  terminal in 12.04?
[19:13] <rlab> cd ~/.themes
[19:13] <ripplebit> it says no such dir
[19:13] <ripplebit> dirp
[19:14] <rlab> then it doesnt exist
[19:14] <ripplebit> then ill make one
[19:14] <GummY-MaN> hello
[19:14] <hacktus0> motaka, for terminal you must do ctrl+alt+T
[19:14] <exaem> IdleOne: you never know
[19:14] <usr13> ripplebit: What are you trying to do?
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> polynomial2, I wonder if your download is corrupt, if it were me I would stop it reboot to a OS check the sum of the iso, and if good try again. You should not have to do much but start a install.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !md5
[19:15] <GummY-MaN> question about ubuntu, can i install it on the same drive as my windows, without making a seperate partition for it?
[19:15] <polynomial2> wilee-nilee: I checked the SHA1SUM of the iso before buring it, it was good
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> polynomial2, Ah, good, not sure then really, maybe others will know.
[19:15] <ripplebit> guys im trying to put a cinnamon theme into ~./themes, but im getting: "not a directory"
[19:16] <Pici> rageberry: its ~/.themes not ~./themes/ and you may need to create it
[19:16] <k1l_> GummY-MaN: most suporters dont recommend wubi (which could do what you asked). for testing just use a live-cd/-usb or make seperate partitions
[19:16] <Pici> ripplebit: ^
[19:16] <polynomial2> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks for the help
[19:16] <usr13> ripplebit: mkdir ~/.themes
[19:16] <Kartagis> is there a known bug with 'Drop to share' service on Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> polynomial2, I have had bad loads to usb/dvd/cd as well one never knows.
[19:16] <aringan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5802402/
[19:16] <ripplebit> usr13: it says it already exists
[19:16] <ripplebit> but that it's not a directory
[19:16] <aringan> ?
[19:16] <polynomial2> wilee-nilee: yeah definitely possible
[19:16] <polynomial2> any idea how to force a reboot during the install?
[19:16] <GummY-MaN> ok thanks k1l_
[19:17] <IdleOne> aringan: type Y and hit enter
[19:17] <usr13> ripplebit: Oh it's supposed to be a file?  rmdir ~/.themes touch ~/.themes
[19:17] <Pici> usr13: no.
[19:17] <d4rkn30> Hey there Fellas i need a little help on removing services from startup on boot ( Server 13.04)
[19:17] <usr13> Pici: What then?
[19:17] <motaka2> I love ubuntu
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> aringan, If it were me I would answer y, your choice really.
[19:17] <aringan> thanks, so why the default is no ?
[19:17] <motaka2> I hate windows
[19:17] <ripplebit> usr13: no i think it's meant to be a directory, but i think it's a file
[19:17] <reisio> motaka2: yes
[19:18] <motaka2> :)
[19:18] <Pici> usr13: Its supposed to be a directory. ripplebit is saying that the error states that its not a directory (which it isn't, since it likely doesn't exist)
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> aringan, People modify stuff the n is an option to keep that.
[19:18] <usr13> ripplebit: rm ~/.themes mkdir ~/.themes/
[19:18] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, You're saying you all your tools seem to have good linux alternative, and that's why you want to switch? It may be I don't know what you mean by distro.
[19:18] <aringan> thank you :)
[19:18] <ripplebit> it says : "No such file or directy" when i try to mkdir
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> no problem, enjoy, aringan
[19:19] <ripplebit> ok think i got it
[19:19] <ripplebit> thanks guys
[19:19] <ripplebit> what are ~/. directories? are they hidden or something?
[19:20] <Pici> ripplebit: anything that starts with a dot is 'hidden'
[19:20] <usr13> ripplebit: ~/  just means /home/ripplebit
[19:20] <ripplebit> thanks
[19:21] <usr13> ripplebit: And as Pici points out, if you create a file with . in front of it, you will not be able to see it in file managers or ls uneless you opt to show hidden files, such as ls -a  or tell your file manager to "Show hidden files"
[19:21] <tgunr> Is it possible to configure a Ethernet interface in /etc/network/interface to have both a DHCP and a static IP?
[19:21] <aringan> here is another one ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5802427/
[19:22] <ripplebit> usr13: is that for security reasons or convenience?
[19:22] <tgunr> not finding any examples of that
[19:22] <IdleOne> aringan: this is a new install correct?
[19:22] <Spr1ng> Anybody had any success getting request tracker 4 running under ubuntu 12.04 lts?  I'm experiencing some challenges and would appreciate talking to an expert as the official rt irc support channel is not very friendly.
[19:22] <usr13> ripplebit: ls -a (-a, --all  do not ignore entries starting with .)
[19:22] <aringan> I am upgrading from 8.04
[19:22] <d4rkn30> Hey there Fellas i need a little help on removing services from startup on boot ( Server 13.04)
[19:22] <aringan> and I have ssh connection to my server
[19:22] <IdleOne> aringan: it would be best if you accept all the maintainer packages.
[19:22] <usr13> ripplebit: Convenience / simplicity
[19:23] <aringan> so Y for all ?
[19:23] <IdleOne> Yes
[19:23] <aringan> thanks
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> d4rkn30, Have you loaded the startup application app
[19:24] <usr13> ripplebit: To illustrate, compare output of   ls     to    ls -a  #In your home dir.
[19:25] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee: um no.. i didnt even know one existed
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> d4rk0wl, I assume it is something in this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> d4rkn30, Otherwise name the thang you want to stop.
[19:27] <usr13> d4rkn30:  You can just chmod -x /etc/init.d/service-name-here
[19:27] <d4rkn30> wilee-nilee: i already know how to use htop to kill them
[19:27] <RealKillaz>  I have a NIC when I configure it with a static IP it works perfect. Cofniguring it with DHCP is failing  with the error:  DHCPRELEASE on eth0 to 192.168.6.50, but that is the old network subnet. Also I see the message: "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> d4rkn30, Not sure you understand.
[19:27] <RealKillaz> What should I do to reset the NIC so that it forgets the old subnet? My other pc's are receiving IP's from the DHCP server
[19:27] <reisio> RealKillaz: pick one channel
[19:27] <usr13> d4rkn30: ... after you stop the service.
[19:28] <d4rkn30> yeah with service <name> stop
[19:29] <usr13> d4rkn30: Actually, I should have said,   chmod -x /etc/init.d/script-name-here
[19:31] <ehhh> just wanted to say that using overburn in imgburn to burn xubuntu 12.04 LTS to a CD-R worked fine, the 5mbs extra didn't pose a problem :)
[19:34] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, still here?
[19:39] <prashant_123456> i need to install ice window manager in ubuntu 12.04 lts please guide me !!
[19:40] <DarkStar1> evening guys. I'm on 12.04. I can access the gui for the network manager but I can't edit the connection settings
[19:41] <DarkStar1> anyone know why? (I am also administrator)
[19:41] <reisio> what exactly is your plan, to use an old version of a distro forever?
[19:41] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: hi
[19:42] <DarkStar1> anyone?
[19:42] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, I followed those steps, and when my server boots up it doesn't boot to the stick
[19:42] <ProFlashback> :/
[19:42] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: what happens when you try?
[19:43] <ripplebit> guys how do i change my icons?
[19:43] <usr13> DarkStar1: Can you elaborate on that just a bit. (Not sure we know what your issue is.)
[19:45] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, black screen
[19:45] <mamed> firefox ubuntu 32 bit 12.04 flash problem . still cannot watch youtube videos but epiphany does work
[19:46] <ripplebit> guys how do i change my icons?
[19:46] <Vec_> Hi, i'm looking for a way to download & install a package not reachable by get-apt/repositories? (the package i am offered from the repositories are "outdated")
[19:46] <DarkStar1> usr13: I suddenly have edit access to the network interface gui again but the network settings that's shown in the gui and that which is in the /etc/network/interface file are different.
[19:46] <Vec_> ^ i now realise that was not phrased correctly as a question, but im sure you get the point ^^
[19:46] <usr13> mamed: Install adobe-flashplugin - Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11
[19:47] <mamed> usr13, it is installed
[19:47] <mamed> and afaik it is the last version supported by adobe
[19:47] <usr13> DarkStar1: So, some are missing?  (from gui?)
[19:48] <usr13> mamed: before or after the last upgrade of firefox?
[19:48] <mamed> usr13, from fresh installation of ubuntu and until now
[19:49] <mamed> i have upgraded firefox also
[19:49] <mamed> gnash does work without any problem on youtube but mstof websites does not support gnahs and requires adobe flash
[19:50] <DarkStar1> usr13: nvm. It's late and I have to go
[19:50] <samy_> how to install my video card,my resolution now is 640 x 480 ?
[19:51] <mamed> samy_, on ubuntu dash menu type restricted drivers
[19:51] <mamed> and you will see an green icon click on it and it will instll drivers
[19:51] <usr13> mamed:  ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:52] <mamed> usr13, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Jun 16 19:57 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[19:53] <usr13> mamed: ls -l /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[19:53] <mamed> usr13, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 Jun 16 20:28 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin -> /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[19:53] <usr13> mamed: Ok, well, not sure why it is not working.
[19:53] <mamed> :(
[19:54] <usr13> mamed: What exactly is not working?
[19:54] <mamed> so i use epiphany web browser for youtube
[19:54] <mamed> usr13, i cannot watch youtube videos
[19:54] <usr13> mamed: Oh, so epiphany is not working?
[19:54] <mamed> no it does working . in fact it is the only working web browers on youtube
[19:55] <usr13> mamed: I suppose you'll need to symlink to epiphany's plugin directory.
[19:55] <find-help> hi, im trying to search for all files modified in the last 24 hours. but when i do thie following command i see every files from this month. could nayone help me rectify this? find . -mtime 0  -exec  /bin/ls '{}' \;
[19:55] <mamed> from which one to other one
[19:55] <find-help> find . -mtime 0 << this shows me the correct info by itself
[19:55] <usr13> mamed: Oh, it IS working. Sorry...   So, what version of Firefox are you using?
[19:55] <scipy53> I'm having serious problems everytime I close an application. Seems it doesnt close properly, and then every time I try opening it, it says that the application is already running. I tied every kill command imaginable, and in the entire process list, there is nothing related to the process I'm trying to kill anymore.
[19:56] <usr13> mamed: Firefox is the one that will not play flash videos.  Is that correct?
[19:56] <skors> Hi, i installed ubuntu 12.04 via dvd on my acer aspire 5560. installation went successfully but upon reboot, "could not find operating system" so i did smart boot and received this log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5802488/
[19:56] <skors> scipy53, what application is it ?
[19:56] <tgunr> Can anyone answer this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/313086/is-it-possible-to-setup-an-interface-with-both-dhcp-and-a-static-ip
[19:56] <mamed> usr13, firefox and chronomioum
[19:56] <scipy53> skors, First firefox, now skype. Thankfully not my IRC client.
[19:57] <Pici> find-help: ls will look inside a directory if you provide that as an argument. So either tweak your find command to search files only or use ls -d
[19:57] <scipy53> yet
[19:57] <skors> scipy53, what does top reveal at the moment ?
[19:59] <scipy53> skors, what part of top do you want me to report on?
[19:59] <singingwolfboy> is there a way to get a list of packages that I've *intentionally* installed, as opposed to packages that were pulled in automatically for dependency resolution? apt must know the difference, since it can run `apt-get auto remove`
[19:59] <find-help> Pici: Thanks for this.
[19:59] <skors> scipy53, is firefox and skype still listed in them ?
[19:59] <scipy53> skors, nope
[20:00] <usr13> mamed:
[20:00] <find-help> scipy53: pkill firefox
[20:00] <Supovitz> Having a rough time dual booting on my UEFI enabled machine. Can anyone help me out?
[20:00] <usr13> mamed:  Just a sec...
[20:00] <ehhh> what's the difference between graphics driver normal and "post-release updates"? NVIDIA version 173 and NVIDIA version 173-updates
[20:00] <scipy53> find-help, Tried an uncountable number of times
[20:00] <mamed> ok usr13 . my firefox is 21
[20:01] <scipy53> find-help, Just for the sake of it, tried again - no luck.
[20:01] <find-help> scipy53: What user are you running the command as?
[20:02] <scipy53> find-help, Not root, but I have root access
[20:03] <usr13> mamed: See my pm
[20:03] <scipy53> im now root, still no luck find-help
[20:03] <caodepalha> hi can anyone here give me some help about ubuntu?
[20:03] <reisio> caodepalha: no, but many people here can
[20:04] <k1l_> !details | caodepalha
[20:04] <find-help> can you run iceweasel ?
[20:04] <scipy53> find-help, me?
[20:04] <find-help> scipy53: is it actually firefox or iceweasel ?
[20:04] <scipy53> firefox
[20:05] <k1l_> find-help: ubuntu got no iceweasel
[20:05] <caodepalha> well firts timer in just about everything ubuntu. i've tried it along with windows 7 on dual-boot then unistalled it. i would like to make it the only operating system on my laptop. burned ubuntu studio and botted the cd. the instalattion begins very very slow then it turn to a black screen and does nothing
[20:06] <scipy53> anyway, this is not an isolated case find-help same issue in skype
[20:07] <skors> Hi, i installed ubuntu 12.04 via dvd on my acer aspire 5560. installation went successfully but upon reboot, "could not find operating system" appeared so i found smart-boot, ran it, and received this log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5802488/
[20:08] <aitor> hi guys, is there a program similar to autohotkey in linux? or what programmation language is more likewise?
[20:08] <find-help> scipy53: yes you know, did'nt see that was your OS i thought maybe you were using debian, so what do you get from ps-aux | grep 'firefox' ?
[20:09] <caodepalha> well firts timer in just about everything ubuntu. i've tried it along with windows 7 on dual-boot then unistalled it. i would like to make it the only operating system on my laptop. burned ubuntu studio and botted the cd. the instalattion begins very very slow then it turn to a black screen and does nothing
[20:09] <PashaPasta> Why would anyone still use Ubuntu? Unity and Gnome3 are terrible >.>
[20:10] <caodepalha> well firts timer in just about everything ubuntu. i've tried it along with windows 7 on dual-boot then unistalled it. i would like to make it the only operating system on my laptop. burned ubuntu studio and botted the cd. the instalattion begins very very slow then it turn to a black screen and does nothing
[20:10] <auronandace> PashaPasta: there are other desktop environments
[20:10] <PashaPasta> not default
[20:10] <PashaPasta> sure, you can install others...but that's not very "user friendly"
[20:11] <ehhh> typing install is complicated enough :'(
[20:11] <auronandace> PashaPasta: yes if you use the supported distros (xubuntu for xfce, kubuntu for kde, lubuntu for lxde)
[20:11] <PashaPasta> mint w/ MATE or cinnamon wins..hands down
[20:11] <auronandace> !info cinnamon | PashaPasta
[20:12] <caodepalha> well firts timer in just about everything ubuntu. i've tried it along with windows 7 on dual-boot then unistalled it. i would like to make it the only operating system on my laptop. burned ubuntu studio and botted the cd. the instalattion begins very very slow then it turn to a black screen and does nothing
[20:12] <find-help> caodepalha: download debian, do a minimum expert install, un select everything. If you don't get a 'balck screen' again install xdm and use the awesome window manager. Job done
[20:12] <PashaPasta> find-help: +1
[20:13] <root_____> ee
[20:13] <ripplebit> guys i need square windows (ubuntu 13)
[20:14] <root_____> quit
[20:15] <caodepalha> ok great!. my goal is to have only ubuntu studio installed. working along with win7 i found it slow. the minimal expert insta is done through windows?.
[20:15] <root_____> )
[20:15] <irreverant> does ubuntu have a cmd for an unfruitful, miserable life?
[20:15] <reisio> irreverant: install_windows.exe
[20:15] <PashaPasta> caodepalha: if you want just linux installed...it'd be best to zero your drive(s) first
[20:15] <irreverant> reisio: lol
[20:16] <ripplebit> guys how do i get square windows for ubuntu 13?
[20:16] <find-help> caodepalha:forget the idea of ubuntu, its sluggish and horrible to work with. download a debain install for your hardare achitecture from the debian website
[20:17] <find-help> caodepalha: for Reference Debian == Ubuntu
[20:17] <ripplebit> find-help: ubuntu seems way slower than windows on my laptop (that is less responsive)
[20:17] <PashaPasta> ripplebit: thank its overbloating and unity
[20:17] <irreverant> ripplebit: what laptop you running?
[20:18] <ripplebit> irreverant: thinkpad e320
[20:18] <irreverant> I want a new dell xps 12 ultrabook with Ubuntu 12.04 on it
[20:18] <rodhash> Hi .. I'm intending to by the printer HP Advantage 3516 .. how do I know if Ubuntu works (via wireless) with this printer? Any HP printer works (via wireless) normally on Ubuntu??
[20:18] <caodepalha> What is Debian? I'm sorry
[20:18] <irreverant> http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd SWeeeeet!!
[20:18] <PashaPasta> ubuntu is built on debian
[20:19] <Programmer_> y
[20:19] <ripplebit> irreverant: it does look pretty good, im not gonna lie
[20:19] <irreverant> ripplebit: right?!
[20:19] <ripplebit> i dunno if you want ubuntu though. i'd get arch and just install what you need (if you're picky)
[20:20] <reisio> rodhash: network is network, doesn't matter if it's wireless in the middle
[20:20] <irreverant> I have the 14 inch version. I'm thinking of dumping windows completely and just loading ubuntu. but i want to get familiar with ubuntu first
[20:20] <find-help> ripplebit: They may be so, but i doubt it, you have the ability in linux to improve performance if need by only having what you need installed, tweaking what processes run at startup etc. etc. etc.. you have no options in windows, you only have what is given to you not what you probably want. if ubuntu is being slow, remove and put debian on it. remove the parts you dont require and have a functioning system based around a bespoke deisgn b
[20:20] <irreverant> Same config, processor and ram however I have an nvidia video card and a ssd drive to load windows and the standard hdd drive for data.
[20:21] <reisio> rodhash: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html
[20:21] <caodepalha> What is Debian? I'm sorry
[20:21] <rodhash> reisio, I see.. but even using the printer via network (wireless) I do have to use some driver .. and I'm just worried about the compatibility between Ubuntu and HP printers
[20:21] <PashaPasta> caodepalha: another linux distro
[20:21] <ripplebit> find-help: i'll probably install arch on it later on. For the moment is there a tool that tells me which processes are using the most cpu?
[20:21] <irreverant> caodepalha: another flavor of linux
[20:21] <find-help> ripplebit: top
[20:21] <PashaPasta> ripplebit: use the command top
[20:21] <find-help> ripplebit: htop
[20:21] <ripplebit> cheers
[20:22] <find-help> ripplebit: personal preference but htp is top2.0
[20:22] <PashaPasta> or apt-get install htop if you want a more graphical appearance
[20:22] <caodepalha> is it good for music production and recording? one of the main reasons for leaving win7 is that my computer gets too slow
[20:22] <find-help> ripplebit:ps -aux
[20:22] <reisio> rodhash: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html
[20:22] <PashaPasta> music production? ehh, it'll work but you'd be better in another OS tbh
[20:23] <reisio> nonsense
[20:23] <irreverant> This is the only reason why i haven't gone completely ubuntu for the Dell XPS 14.
[20:23] <irreverant> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116597
[20:23] <reisio> everything is better on GNU/Linux
[20:23] <OerHeks> rodhash, linux & HP is great, ubuntu uses CUPS for printing
[20:23] <reisio> irreverant: what is?
[20:23] <rodhash> OerHeks, : )
[20:24] <irreverant> Oh yeah, the battery life. I'm extremely mobile and 2 hours ain't so much time.
[20:25] <find-help> irreverant: you dont honestly believe whats there do you ?
[20:26] <irreverant> find-help: please explain
[20:26] <find-help> irreverant: i would say those test simply couldnt be accurate or done in a fiar manner
[20:27] <irreverant> Seems pretty solic.
[20:27] <irreverant> solid.
[20:27] <caodepalha> is it good for music production and recording? one of the main reasons for leaving win7 is that my computer gets too slow
[20:27] <find-help> irreverant: ok, hdd wasnt picked up
[20:27] <rodhash> reisio, I've just checked this link .. it's the driver to be downloaded, correct?  I already imagined there is some driver available, I was just curious about the compatibility (printing quality, wireless communication, functionalities, etc)
[20:27] <Benxyzzy> I encrypted my whole HD with LVM. In /etc/fstab I have /dev/mapper/myserver--vg-swap_1 none swap sw 0 0 . Is this swap one-time-encrypted? As in, is a fresh swap key generated every boot?
[20:27] <PashaPasta> caodepalha: personally, I wouldn't recommend using ubuntu for music production
[20:27] <ehhh> caodepalha: i could never find out how to get midi and stuff working so i dropped it for music
[20:28] <caodepalha> anything you guys can recomend?
[20:28] <irreverant> find-help: i can live with the work arounds for the hdd, and nvidia card. but only getting 2 hours of battery life from it on a single charge, that's just too little of time realistically.
[20:28] <DJones> caodepalha: For music production, have a look at http://ubuntustudio.org/about-ubuntustudio/
[20:28] <PashaPasta> osx does it well, winblows if you're hellbent on not touching osx
[20:28] <Benxyzzy> Djones: got there first :)
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> caodepalha, In the end you will have to try it and see if it fits your needs, nothing anyone says here is really vaild in your needs.
[20:29] <irreverant> if he's going to use os X he might as well just use freeBSD
[20:29] <irreverant> since os x is essentially bsd.
[20:29] <PashaPasta> irreverant: no, can't use most of the production tools on straight up BSD
[20:30] <zykotick9> irreverant: not really...  yes it's a bsd kernel, but that's about the only similarity...
[20:30] <irreverant> Yeah I know.
[20:30] <irreverant> No there some syntax command structure similarity
[20:30] <find-help> irreverant: if youre only getting 2 hours battery life and windows is give you more than twice as much i would wonder what process were taking up so much memory
[20:30] <caodepalha> i need a system that can perform faster than my present win7 setup. heard that linux is faster, stable and free. i work with recording audio and midi and working with daw to produce music. vsts etc.
[20:31] <find-help> caodepalha: i told you what you need to do
[20:31] <ehhh> ok i'm trying to get xubuntu to boot properly, i end up on a screen with a blinking underline and an [ OK ] just above to the right. I can get into the os from the terminal using startx or through recovery > resume. the problem started after i tried to change the additional drivers (graphics)
[20:31] <irreverant> I hate to say it but a mac is much better suited, or from what i remember when they were powerPC and g5 g6 processor based, much faster for music production
[20:31] <find-help> caodepalha: you can use ffmpeg for recording
[20:31] <rodhash> OerHeks, have you already used any HP printer? Is the compatibility with Ubuntu fine?
[20:32] <find-help> caodepalha: well infact that's now avconv
[20:32] <caodepalha> avconv?
[20:32] <gordonjcp> okay so "sudo apt-get build-dep uwsgi"
[20:33] <gordonjcp> why has that just installed ubuntu-desktop on my server?
[20:33] <gordonjcp> that's the most utterly retarded thing I have ever seen
[20:33] <ehhh> caodepalha: you won't be able to use VST's from windows/mac on ubuntu unless you run a windows DAW through wine or something . .
[20:33] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: what are you trying to do?
[20:33] <ehhh> i heard there's great substitutes but i never dove into it
[20:34] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: you might want to look at kxstudio
[20:34] <find-help> gordonjcp: was it in you dependencies list?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> find-help: well I guess it was, if build-dep pulled it in
[20:34] <find-help> caodepalha: reenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 1]
[20:34] <find-help> reenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 1]
[20:34] <OerHeks> rodhash, sure, i have a  hp 1020, HP is business machines.
[20:34] <find-help> [#ubuntu] reenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt)] [Act: 1]
[20:35] <caodepalha> if the overll performance of the laptop works better and faster and virus free i'd like to use it in a way that i use win 7 now where i use reaper vsts record guitars vocals etc. doenst have to be the same programs
[20:35] <find-help> caodepalha: http://libav.org/avconv.html\#Detailed-description
[20:36] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: look at Ardour
[20:36] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: what's Reaper?
[20:36] <caodepalha> its a daw
[20:36] <find-help> caodepalha: google is your friend.....
[20:36] <caodepalha> digital audio software
[20:36] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: I know what a DAW is ;-)
[20:36] <reisio> rodhash: ...no
[20:37] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: I use Ardour quite a bit
[20:37] <caodepalha> sorry
[20:37] <reisio> rodhash: it has a list of what hp devices are supported by the driver, which you get from the package manager if it isn't installed already
[20:37] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: I don't use VSTs or softsynths though
[20:37] <caodepalha> i heard ardour is good to. its all the same i guess
[20:37] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: Ardour was originally based on the Mackie HDR stuff
[20:38] <find-help> i need to make a a few videos for a work project and had no issue using avconv or at the time ffmpeg
[20:38] <caodepalha> anyway through thta need i found ubuntu studio. someone here said it was crap...
[20:38] <find-help> works very well
[20:38] <gordonjcp> the idea being that one could complete the Mackie HDR tutorials on Ardour, once it was done...
[20:38] <TheBigKevDogg> I am upgrading xubuntu to 12.04. I started the upgrade but xscreensaver took over and I can't authenticate to unlock to get back to the installer, not sure if still going or waiting on prompts that I can't see. Any ideas?
[20:38] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: I prefer kxstudio to Ubuntu Studio
[20:38] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: it's based on Ubuntu, still
[20:38] <reisio> irreverant: you saw the bit at the end where he explains why his battery wasn't lasting?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: the major significant difference is that the KXStudio devs aren't such dicks to deal with
[20:39] <Jordan_U> TheBigKevDogg: Why can't you authenticate?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: I hate KDE but you can use it with XFCE, so that's all good, and it still works pretty well with Unity
[20:40] <find-help> ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i hw:0,0 -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1678x1030 -i :0.0  -vcodec libx264 -crf 0 -preset ultrafast my_audio_`date +%d%b%Y-%T`.mp4
[20:40] <find-help> somethign like that would record you audio and video in hd
[20:40] <find-help> ...
[20:40] <caodepalha> i have to leave now. will be back in a while a do more research and ask question. this is great just finding this chat and peolpe being helpfull thanks alot
[20:40] <gordonjcp> caodepalha: anyway the Ardour stuff, before it was completed to a point that you *could* complete the Mackie tutorials with it, Mackie funded a round of development on it so Ardour became *very* like Mackie HDR ;-)
[20:42] <TheBigKevDogg> Don't know, just says Auth failed with no password prompt in xscreensaver
[20:45] <Flyman> There be a way to create a sybolic link to the gnome3 system setting so i can use that instead of the default Ubuntu system settings on Ubuntu?
[20:46] <ingev> какой канал русского убунту:?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> !ru
[20:46] <th0r> can someone tell me what package or program supplies Users and Groups in the Settings Manager for Xubuntu?
[20:46] <find-help> .
[20:50] <rmobenchain> I'm having issues installing some java plugins on ubuntu 13.04..  any help would be appreciated
[20:52] <ehhh> ok i switched to a beta proprietary driver and now it boots into the gui automatically . . now i need to get rid of this black bar on the left and right (basically the image is misplaced on the screen) any ideas?
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, The channel works with you stating your actual issue. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[20:53] <ehhh> nvm, i just changed the refresh rate :P
[20:53] <ingev> ребят а нет канала ubuntu-ru
[20:53] <rodhash> reisio, OerHeks .. thx
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> ingev, Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[20:54] <rmobenchain> wilee niles:  I'm trying to watch some training videos for work, but the work site says I have java plug ins needed.  I'm not really sure which ones I need since I'm using Chrome
[20:55] <ehhh> is it best to install software through the terminal with apt-get or to use the ubuntu software center? (or is it just personal preference?)
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Don't tell me but the channel in detail if you can. ;)
[20:55] <rmobenchain> ugh, forget it ... will figure it out on my own
[20:56] <cgtdk> ehhh: Preference
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You can get great help here if you have patience and provide details, and recognize who may not have help.
[20:57] <Flyman> sometimes on my Unity desktop i cannot change wallpaper, move or resize windows.
[20:57] <deadweasel> rmobenchain: installed the restricted extras in the software manager
[20:57] <ehhh> cgtdk: thanks
[20:58] <cgtdk> ehhh: If you don't like the Ubuntu Software Center but still want a GUI, try Synaptic
[21:00] <reisio> !notunity
[21:00] <reisio> Flyman: ^
[21:00] <rmobenchain> deadweasel: I'm not sure how to do that.  The exact message I get is "Java (TM) is required to display some elements on this page"
[21:01] <cgtdk> reisio: So your solution to his problem with Unity is for him to use something else?
[21:01] <deadweasel> are you using any popup blockers?  script blockers?
[21:01] <deadweasel> rmobenchain: ^
[21:02] <rmobenchain> deadweasel: when they pop up, I hit "Allow for this page"
[21:02] <deadweasel> do you know how to use the unity launcher?
[21:02] <Flyman> reisio, well, ty, i know of all that. That does not fix the issue on 13.04
[21:02] <reisio> cgtdk: no, my solution to him asking for how to not use unity is telling him how
[21:03] <Flyman> not a solution
[21:03] <reisio> it is, to your first msg
[21:03] <cgtdk> reisio: I don't remember him asking how to use something else, but all right
[21:03] <reisio> perhaps your needs have changed since then
[21:03]  * reisio shrugs
[21:03] <reisio> anyways, he can clearly speak for himself
[21:04] <reisio> Flyman: so what's the issue?
[21:04]  * Flyman keeps trouble shooting
[21:04] <Flyman> i cannot move resize windows or change wallpaper in Unity on 13.04
[21:05] <deadweasel> have you tried syncwall, Flyman ?
[21:05] <Flyman> the change backround icon is missing in control-center now
[21:05] <ehhh> lol trying to get the display settings to work in xubuntu is just clicking randomly until it works properly :P
[21:05] <Flyman> heh
[21:05] <Flyman> lol ehhh
[21:05] <reisio> ehhh: that's how you get anything at all to work
[21:05] <Flyman> this happend after adding the gnome staging ppa
[21:07] <OerHeks> !ppa
[21:07] <OerHeks> staging sounds experimental
[21:07] <Flyman> yes yes, i use YPPA from Andrew of webupd8
[21:07] <Flyman> im trying to debug this issue
[21:08] <xangua> Flyman: tried to remove that ppa¿
[21:09] <rmobenchain> oh well
[21:09] <Flyman> if i can create a symbolic link to use the same control-center gnome uses an use it in Unity all be fine. Im not shure what directory its in.
[21:09] <Flyman> thats all i want to do. LOL
[21:10] <reisio> what email client comes with 13?
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Flyman, Are you trying to get the gnome 3 exstensions to run in unity in the end?
[21:11] <Flyman> nope wilee-nilee
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Flyman, But you want gnome-tweak to run in unity?
[21:11] <Flyman> im trying to use gnome-control center in Unity
[21:11] <Noskcaj> is there anywhere i can download the default icon theme from ubuntu 13.04?
[21:12] <Flyman> gnsok, all figue it out
[21:12] <Flyman> -gn
[21:12] <reisio> Noskcaj: you can use apt-file to determine what packages provide a particular file
[21:13] <xangua> Noskcaj: launchpad or packagesubuntu i guess
[21:13] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:13] <tordmunk> Hi is this channel restricted to ubuntu talk only?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Flyman, a bit buggy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-unity/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> tordmunk, ubuntu support yes
[21:13] <ehhh> customisation in xfce is great :P
[21:13] <tordmunk> ah ok
[21:14] <Flyman> wilee-nilee, i see, all take a look
[21:14] <Flyman> by the way, i wonder what happend to the adutlt scope/lens in 13.04. hehe
[21:14] <Flyman> and reddit lens
[21:15] <tordmunk> Well then i am wondering why my ubuntu install sometimes freezes just randomly, i am running the newset ubuntu version on an thinkpad x220
[21:15] <tordmunk> i have no idea whats triggering the freeze
[21:15] <tordmunk> the only way to fix it is to restart the machine, in windows this never happends
[21:16] <savio> tordmunk: can you explain freeze
[21:16] <Noskcaj> the default icon theme is humanity isn't it?
[21:17] <aluchko> I'm having trouble with an app that won't run on my ubuntu systems because gsl isn't getting linked into the shared object http://ideone.com/CT774u
[21:17] <savio> tordmunk: how often it happen? What trigger this freeze
[21:17] <vipert> #plska
[21:18] <tordmunk> i think it is firefox but the whole system freeze. When it happends i have firefox,sublime and skype running
[21:18] <aluchko> it runs on both fedora and os x where the shared object has a link to gsl after the build
[21:18] <aluchko> is there any way to debug what's going on?
[21:19] <tordmunk> it happends when i click a link in firefox and the whole thing freezes
[21:19] <tordmunk> i cant event exit got to an tty to se what is happening
[21:19] <reisio> what email client comes with 13?
[21:19] <tordmunk> exit to an*
[21:20] <savio> tordmunk: do you need hard boot after that
[21:20] <xangua> reisio: thunderbird¿
[21:21] <tordmunk> yep
[21:21] <hadifarnoud> why PSAD is so shit. any better alternative?
[21:21] <tordmunk> i have looked thru the logs, but i cant se anything unormal about them
[21:21] <holstein> !language | hadifarnoud
[21:21] <holstein> hadifarnoud: what are you trying to do?
[21:22] <hadifarnoud> holstein: blocking DDoS attacks
[21:22] <marosaske> reisio: Evolution
[21:22] <tordmunk> could it be the flash player? youtube has been running in firefox all the time of what i can remeber
[21:22] <hadifarnoud> it just doesn't work. it detects everything as an attack. even ftp connections. holstein
[21:22] <marlinc> Someone who wants to take a look at this app? :p http://mms-projects.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2377&utm_source=irc&p=2397#p2397
[21:23] <holstein> hadifarnoud: i would try a server channel.. or maybe even security? or networking?
[21:24] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: ftp connections mostly are an attack
[21:24] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: if you have ftp running, your server is compromised
[21:25] <hadifarnoud> gordonjcp: unsuccessful connections try yeah. I know FTP is not good but for number of reasons I have to.
[21:25] <gordonjcp> any protocol that requires running arbitrary code *as root* on both the client and server, that opens listening connections - that should be viewed with a certain amount of suspicion ;-)
[21:25] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'm running Gnome 3.6 on top of Ubuntu 13.04. I can't log in to a Unity session, i.e. I don't get the option at login, it's just Gnome. How can I get the choice for each new session?
[21:26] <hadifarnoud> gordonjcp: what do you think of PSAD though? is there any better alternative?
[21:26] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: i'm not sure what PSAD is... but is failtoban an alternative?
[21:27] <gordonjcp> failtoban *rocks*
[21:28] <hadifarnoud> I'll give fail2ban a try again. I should set it for SSH and FTP, right? it's a normal webserver
[21:28] <holstein> hadifarnoud: i think "should" has been established as, you should not use FTP.. but if yoyu must, you must
[21:29] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: i've only used failtoban for SSH, but if you use FTP - you might as well not bother with security...
[21:29] <hadifarnoud> zykotick9: I guess I have to find a way to get FTP out of workflow
[21:30] <k1l_> hadifarnoud: you can use the ssh-server for file exchange too. no need for ftp server
[21:30] <hadifarnoud> k1l_: SFTP?
[21:30] <bennypr0fane> sorry got kicked out. noone happen to respond to my question yeT?
[21:31] <hadifarnoud> you're right! so obvious
[21:31] <k1l_> hadifarnoud: yep
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, Only gnome in the gear dropdown?
[21:37] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee: yes.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, Did you install the gnome version, rather than the regular release?
[21:39] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee: It's asking me whether I wanna sign in as my user or not , but there is no choice of desktop session
[21:39] <bennypr0fane> it's standard Ubuntu with Gnome slapped on top
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, It is the ubuntu option, unity is called ubuntu-desktop, do you see that?
[21:40] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee: no. like I said, there isn't an alternative
[21:40] <TechnoCat> you need to install an alternative right?
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, So how did you install gnome, and is 3.6 a ppa version?
[21:40] <TechnoCat> like xubuntu or something
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, Did you install the fallback or gnome-shell?
[21:42] <Snype> Myrtti, whatcha smoking buddy?
[21:43] <Snype> Myrtti, you wanna smoke some shit together
[21:43] <Snype> '
[21:43] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee: good question, as the ppa is no longer necessary now to get Gnome Shell 3.6 on 13.04, yes? It got here by installing Gnome 3.4 on standard Ubuntu 12.04, and then upgrading the OS to 13.04, so GNome was bumpe3d up to 3.6
[21:43] <savio> tordmunk: what graphics you use
[21:44] <tordmunk> intel graphics
[21:45] <subman> I moved a window quickly to the top of the screen but now it seems to have its header under the menu bar and I cannot get to it to either move it or close it anymore.  How to get around that one?  This happens often.
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane_, Yeah, 3.6 is in 13.04, I would run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to see what it says, rather strange that unity would disappear from the login.,
[21:45] <cgtdk> subman: Hold down ALT and grab the window with the cursor
[21:45] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know a site with bash tutorials?
[21:45] <subman> cgtdk, no way, I never knew that existed!
[21:45] <reisio> mojtaba: ask #bash
[21:46] <mojtaba> reisio: ok thanks
[21:46] <th0r> mojtaba, the linux documentation project tldp.org
[21:46] <cgtdk> subman: I don't understand your response. Are you denying that this feature exists?
[21:46] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee, how can I tell if Gnome Shell is fed by the ppa or the regular repo? If it's from the ppa, shoulodn't it be on 3.8 now?
[21:47] <subman> cgtdk, no, just that I didn't know!  Worked like a charm!
[21:47] <cgtdk> subman: Oh, all right. You're welcome. I believe you can resize windows using left click instead of right click. It's much easier than grabbing the corner.
[21:47] <bennypr0fane> it says ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, I have synaptic so I look there, I forget the command to confirm the version. I will say I tried 3.8 in raring early from the ppa and it broke my setup, so I just ran the ppa purge and back to normal. here as well is a a website with full desktop lists in the playing around section of the left column. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[21:49] <Jordan_U> bennypr0fane: apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> thanks jordan
[21:49] <subman> cgtdk, huh, thanks!
[21:52] <bennypr0fane> my Gnome version is 3.6.3.1 I mean in this case it's gotta be from the regular repo, bcs the version in Gnome 3 ppa is 3.8, and not 3.6, yes?
[21:54] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee, I'm not sure what to do with that link. How is the information there supposed to help me?
[21:58] <goudkov> is it normal to have a lot of conntrack entries on a webserver where src is shown as the server itself with sport 80? it would make sense for it to be destination, but not source.
[21:59] <bennypr0fane> alright, so the Gnome3 ppa was deactivated when I upgraded to Raring
[22:01] <sparr> on Ubuntu 12.04 what is the best course of action to resolve the adobe flash bug where the Allow button cannot be clicked in the settings dialogs (such as when a website wants to use your webcam via flash)? I'd prefer not to upgrade to 13.04 just to fix this bug.
[22:01] <MonkeyDu1t> sparr  it still occurs in 13.04, sometimes
[22:01] <sparr> :(
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, The site has full package lists to remove and install desktops, you can remove one and reinstall it if needed. For example you could use the ubuntu-desktop only, and the reinstall the shell, might take a bit more than click and run is all.
[22:02] <holstein> sparr: the latest flash is in the chrome browser.. otherwise, try and get away from flash
[22:02] <sparr> holstein: not for me. I avoid flash like the plague, myself
[22:03] <sparr> holstein: I don't think 12.04 includes the latest chrome browser
[22:03] <holstein> sparr: no ubuntu includes the chrome browser.. you have to get it from the site.. there are .deb's.. im not saying its "good", or that you should use it. just that is has the current flash. linux never will
[22:04] <MonkeyDu1t> !info chromium-browser precise | sparr
[22:04] <sparr> thanks
[22:04] <sparr> MonkeyDu1t: yeah, v25 isn't new enough for what most of the bug reports say is required
[22:04] <sparr> they all want v26
[22:05] <holstein> sparr: from http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ 11.7.700.225 in chrome ..11.2.202.291 in general linux
[22:06] <MonkeyDu1t> sparr  13.04 still has v25, if you want something beyond that, you need a ppa or external .deb, but that's not supported here
[22:06] <sparr> drat
[22:06] <sparr> a downgrade may be in order
[22:06] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee, if there's any other way I can get Unity back, I'd prefer that, because I already set up Gnome to my liking which is quite a bit of work
[22:06] <cgtdk> Isn't the built-in Flash player only available in Chrome, not Chromium?
[22:07] <MonkeyDu1t> cgtdk  https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[22:07] <sparr> ok, better question
[22:07] <holstein> cgtdk: i said chrome.. i didnt mean to imply chromium
[22:07] <sparr> what's a good remote assistance solution for an ubuntu user behind a firewall?
[22:07] <sparr> a not technically savvy user
[22:07] <cgtdk> sparr: Teamviewer works well in my experience
[22:07] <samgabbay> hwo do i install my mobility radeon drivers 5400
[22:07] <holstein> sparr: i use teamviewer as well
[22:07] <sparr> thanks
[22:07] <daftykins> !ati | samgabbay
[22:12] <daftykins> who was it that asked about boot failing with just an [OK] top right?
[22:12] <msi> When i try to install ubuntu on my laptop hp, it works but when it reboots it's all flickering and splitted screen
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, I understand the work you have made, all I can see is what happened here with you is rather unusual, so it is a matter of your thinking back on any removals possibly that may have caused this with dependencies. Unity and the gnome-shell run on gnome 3 which seems to be intact.
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> s/see/say*
[22:13] <holstein> msi: is that after upgrading packages?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, Have you tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:14] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee, yes
[22:14] <msi> No there is no os on there
[22:14] <msi> just when i clean instal it does that
[22:14] <bennypr0fane> I already said so
[22:15] <holstein> msi: so, at the point in which there is an os on there.. and you reboot into the issue, have upgraded been made? either at first boot? or during the install?
[22:15] <msi> when I boot from dvd it's fine , the install goes correct, but when it reboots after the install bam flickering
[22:15] <bennypr0fane> it says ubuntu-desktop is already the latest version
[22:16] <holstein> msi: did you install upgrades during the installation?
[22:16] <msi> no
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> bennypr0fane, Ah, but no nick directing that to me, I have more than staring at the screen going on here. If youi do not use a nick I am not notified and have to search all the posts. ;)
[22:16] <holstein> !nomodeset | msi this is where i would begin
[22:18] <bennypr0fane> wilee-nilee, alright, sorry. I think I said it in a line under one in which I used your nick
[22:25] <fbdystang> test
[22:28] <Hyperiant> My Windows 7 entry in GRUB tries to load a previous installation that I've already deleted, but doesn't detect my current installation; moreover, Ubuntu can't read from that drive when I boot into it
[22:29] <Hyperiant> The only way I can boot into Windows is to select the broken entry, let it tell me it's invalid, then press a key; it miraculously detects my current W7 install after that
[22:29] <Hyperiant> Or, well, doesn't -detect- it persay, just boots into it
[22:30] <Guest85364> shutup faggot
[22:30] <olskolirc> 3 gig usb stick is that a fat 16 or a fat 32 drive?
[22:31] <Hyperiant> olskolirc: I think you can format it both ways; it's probably safe to assume it's FAT32 though
[22:31] <olskolirc> thanks
[22:32] <explodes1> Hi. ubuntu server 13.04; How do I restart sshd? `/etc/init.d/sshd restart` fails
[22:32] <explodes1> or, says file not found
[22:32] <MickS> service ssh restart
[22:33] <Hyperiant> How do I get Ubuntu to see my other HDD?  It's only seeing one SATA drive, but there's two
[22:33] <explodes1> K thanks. Whelp, that didn't fix the problem. I want to connect using my pub-key
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Have you run sudo update-grub  ?
[22:34] <MickS> explodes1: what part fails for you?
[22:35] <explodes1> I still have to enter my password. My /local/~/.ssh/config is set up, the pub key is in /remote/~/.ssh/authorized_keys and /remote/etc/ssh/sshd_config has AuthorizedKeysFile      %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:35] <explodes1> MickS:  I still have to enter my password :/
[22:36] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: I just ran that; on restart, the Windows 7 entry is now completely gone and now it's impossible for me to boot into Windows without using the BIOS boot menu
[22:36] <MickS> explodes1: permission of authorized_keys and .ssh dir set right?
[22:36] <explodes1> 0700 and 0600 directory and file, respectively
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, This a W8 setup perchance, and does the windows partition have a boot flag?
[22:38] <MickS> explodes1: does ssh with -vv give you any hints on which keys it's trying?
[22:38] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee It's Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise Edition on custom hardware; no Windows 8 link whatsoever; moreover, it boots when I assign it as the primary boot disc, so I assume it has a boot flag
[22:38] <explodes1> The correct one :/
[22:39] <Hyperiant> A related issue may be that Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect that drive when I boot
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Strange, grub should see it, I wonder if it may need a chkdsk, open gparted in ubuntu, which may need to be installed and look at the W7, and see if you see errors and a boot flag, there may be two partitons for windows a boot one as well.
[22:40] <MickS> explodes1: what if you comment out the AuthorizedKeysFile option in the sshd config file and restart ssh?
[22:41] <explodes1> MickS: Here is the -vv output: http://pastie.org/8084085
[22:41] <explodes1> MickS: That is how it was by default, but I'll try it again
[22:43] <explodes1> well, what the hell
[22:44] <MickS> magic happened?
[22:45] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: No errors, but a boot flag is present
[22:45] <Hyperiant> It's also just one partition
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, You could download the bootrepair app, and run the bootinfo summary it will give a lot of info on what is there, you get a http address for that script to post and save, I use it quite often to diagnose.
[22:48] <schultza> I'm looking for a tickr similiar to snackr for linux. Since Adobe AIR is no longer available for linux. I have Ubuntu 13.04 x86_64.
[22:49] <holstein> schultza: what are you trying to do? assuming i dont know what a tickr or snackr is?
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, So this W7 is on another HD perchance?
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> besides ubuntu
[22:50] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: All OSes on this computer are on different HDDs
[22:50] <schultza> RSS ticker (a scrolling rss news feed). I'm not licking the tickr package right now. I'm trying to work with google news' rss feeds, which tickr is having issues with.
[22:51] <Hyperiant> Ran boot-repair, still nothing
[22:51] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803087/
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I suspect the grub bootloader was put in a wrong mbr possibly, the script will tell us run that and post it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:52] <holstein> schultza: theres not an option in the browser for that?
[22:52] <tking> please in a linux shared hosting how do i fix this error "mb_internal_encoding() in public_html/cage/system/global.php on line 1, am trying to install a web app /pucb_html/install.php
[22:53] <schultza> holstein: dont want to open a browser for this ticker.
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Iam seeing a no mount on sdb which is the W7 install sdb1 or sdc1 niether is showing the usual boot files info.
[22:57] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: sdc1 has been formatted; there shouldn't be anything on it.  sdb1 boots when I point directly to the drive, but Ubuntu won't mount it.
[22:58] <bennypr0fane_> hello, it seems my repository configuration are broken: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803090/
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I would run a chkdsk /f/r  on the sdb1 ubuntu is not mounting and does not recognize the partition.
[22:59] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: through cmd?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, YOu also have a grub boot in the sdc mbr also run from ubuntu    sudo apt-get install-grub /dev/sda   then   sudo update-grub
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Yeah from the admin cli it will ask if you want to do it on a restart, or make a recovery disc from windows and use the cli in the repair.
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> the grub install commands is to make sure ubuntu is using the sda mbr
[23:02] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: "sudo apt-get install-grub /dev/sda" ... really?
[23:02] <reisio> 's'probably grub-install
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, Yeah that reloads the grub loader to the sda mbr, he has a grub in sdc it is not clear to me that the sda where ubuntu is is using the sda mbr.
[23:03] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: sorry, that doesn't make sense...
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> do yeah grub-install
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Sorry the command was incorrect sudo grub-install /dev/sda  sorry, and thanks zykotick9
[23:04] <Hyperiant> running chkdsk on a 1TB drive is very time-consuming
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Well windows wont mount and not seen by ubuntu do what you want.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> it is not showing any info from sdb that is not good.
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, linux is a bit picky on the boot, you could just boot it from a boot from, I would fix it though if it were me, one should be running a chkdsk one in awhile anyway.
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> once*
[23:06] <bennypr0fane_> hello, would someone mind taking a look at my paste and help me fix it?
[23:07] <evil-work> hi
[23:08] <Hyperiant> apparently chkdsk /r implies /f.  learn something new every day.  anyway, chkdsk is doing its ponderous task.  any reason why ubuntu would just decide randomly not to mount a perfectly good SATA drive?
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Yeah the f r thing, I think you will okay after the chk just run the grub-install command as well to be sure the sda grub mbr is the controlling grub.
[23:10] <schultza> is there a package for qparted (notice this is not Gparted, but Qparted)?
[23:10] <cgtdk> schultza: There does not seem to be one in the repository for 13.04
[23:11] <cgtdk> maybe there's a PPA on launchpad
[23:11] <schultza> I'll have to take a look for it then. Thanks all.
[23:12] <Ambrose> Hi I'm running Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 LTS and want to setup remote desktop/VNC so I can control my keyboard/mouse remotely (From within the same x session). Can someone recommend how to do this? Thx
[23:15] <cristian_> ?
[23:16] <cristian_> ?
[23:16] <cgtdk> cristian_: what?
[23:16] <daftykins> Ambrose: doesn't the menu have the remote sharing option on it?
[23:18] <Ambrose> daftykins: Sorry, which menu?
[23:18] <daftykins> Ambrose: well i'm not even sure if you've got a unity based distro there
[23:19] <Ambrose> daftykins: Actually I just installed xrdp and am using that. It starts a new session but it'll do. Thx
[23:19] <OerHeks> it is, even got a irc channel here on #freenode > #ubuntustudio
[23:20] <Ambrose> OerHeks: Ah ok, I will ask there, it would be preferred to just use the same session instead of sparking up another session
[23:22] <OerHeks> ubuntu studio uses xfce, so xrdp would be fine
[23:27] <irreverant> is there a mac room?
[23:28] <cgtdk> A channel about Macs in general or about Ubuntu on Macs?
[23:28] <irreverant> no mac's in general about mac / active directory / smb?
[23:28] <irreverant> either one of those.
[23:32] <irreverant> so i bind in a mac the same as bind in linux?
[23:35] <Prock81> help!!! my mouse stoped working and its making me feel panickey. closterfobic
[23:35] <pedrinho> oie
[23:35] <Prock81> i was tring to get my braphics working, suscedded, but now mouse stoped
[23:36] <trizzle> anyone around familiar with process of getting usb wifi working?  I have an Asus N13 that i've been working on for a few days
[23:38] <Prock81> 41  apt-get purge nvidia*
[23:38] <Prock81>    42  apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[23:38] <Prock81>    43  apt-get install libglapi-mesa
[23:38] <Prock81>    44  apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[23:38] <FloodBot1> Prock81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <Prock81> then on restart no gui so i reinstall ubuntu-desktop it grabed other stuff, now i have no mouse
[23:39] <Prock81> please for hte love of god help me get my mouse working
[23:42] <Prock81> any one can tell me common stuff to make laptop mouse pad work again?
[23:45] <zykotick9> Prock81: i'd "guess" xorg.conf issue, try regenerating the nvidia one, with ... damn, i forget the command... try "sudo nvidia<TAB><TAB>"
[23:45] <Ari-Yang> Prock81, this problem is obv related to your driver...
[23:45] <daftykins> zykotick9: nvidia-xconfig ?
[23:46] <zykotick9> Prock81: OR, better yet, do you mv xorg.conf out of the way, and try without one, if you removed nvidia!
[23:47] <zykotick9> s/do you//
[23:49] <pedrinho> oie
[23:50] <D-coy> o/
[23:50] <evil-work> !moo
[23:50] <evil-work> !help
[23:50] <evil-work> !give evil-work help
[23:51] <Prock81> i had to purge nvidia, where is xorg.conf located, locate wont find it
[23:51] <evil-work> !give ubottu brain
[23:51] <OerHeks> !xorgconf
[23:57] <ehhh> !tits
[23:58] <ehhh> :(
[23:58] <k1l_> ehhh: lets keep it family friendly in here, like its mentioned in the !guidelines, thanks :)