| holstein | !ati | 03:32 | 
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| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 03:32 | 
| cub | I can't get the latest saucy iso to install on my virtualbox. I used amd64, is it worth to try i386 as well or is it more likely something with my hw that's causing trouble? | 07:59 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, hmm? | 08:00 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, actually the latest was really a long while ago. | 08:00 | 
| cub | 21st of June | 08:00 | 
| * smartboyhw has to look at the buildlogs of how images fail. | 08:00 | |
| smartboyhw | osspd: Conflicts: oss-compat. What? | 08:01 | 
| cub | I only get "piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addre=0xaddr" in the beginning, but from what I read that should cause any real trouble | 08:02 | 
| cub | shouldn't... | 08:02 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, well it happens always in Virtualbox :P | 08:03 | 
| smartboyhw | I mean the piix4_smbus thing | 08:03 | 
| smartboyhw | I can install it though. | 08:03 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, have you activatedd VT-x support for your motherboard? | 08:04 | 
| cub | that was my conclusion as well | 08:04 | 
| cub | yeah, I run 12.04 and 13.04 in Vbox already | 08:04 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, I will test it later. | 08:05 | 
| cub | I'll download the i386 to try | 08:06 | 
| smartboyhw | Hmm I know the problem now. It's the new version of oss-compat causing problems (it's uploaded on 20130621, nice match) | 08:14 | 
| smartboyhw | Here's the problem. oss-compat recommends osspd, but osspd conflicts and replaces it | 08:16 | 
| smartboyhw | The !? | 08:16 | 
| cub | would an earlier build work then? | 08:19 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, it should. | 08:19 | 
| smartboyhw | I am thinking if this is a alsa-base problem, or a oss-compat or osspd problem. | 08:20 | 
| smartboyhw | The actual issue is that osspd provides it's own oss. | 08:20 | 
| * smartboyhw is perplexed. | 08:20 | |
| madeinkobaia | Hi all : ) | 12:26 | 
| smartboyhw | Hey madeinkobaia | 12:26 | 
| madeinkobaia | Hi smartboyhw ! | 12:27 | 
| madeinkobaia | How are you ? | 12:27 | 
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, great. Doing some Alpha 1 testing. | 12:32 | 
| madeinkobaia | smartboyhw: Ok, great. | 12:35 | 
| madeinkobaia | For all, the new banner is now on line on all our social networks (g+, fb and youtube channel). | 12:35 | 
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, great:) | 12:36 | 
| madeinkobaia | smartboyhw: its a little bit conceptual design. Hope not too much :P | 12:37 | 
| madeinkobaia | smartboyhw: Did you see Kaj today ? | 12:47 | 
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, no. | 12:47 | 
| madeinkobaia | smartboyhw: : ( | 12:47 | 
| cub | smartboyhw, I tried an older iso for Saucy on amd64, same problem. However i386 from June 21st installed just fine. Well, except I have no menus but otherwise fine. :P | 12:54 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, no menus!? | 13:20 | 
| smartboyhw | zequence, holy christ: | 13:24 | 
| smartboyhw | Latest email in linux-rt-users | 13:24 | 
| smartboyhw | I was using ubuntu 9.10 (ubuntustudio-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso) with linux-rt package. | 13:24 | 
| smartboyhw | ;O | 13:24 | 
| smartboyhw | Who is still using that!? | 13:24 | 
| cub | If it works, don't mess with it. ;) | 13:25 | 
| cub | smartboyhw, menus, well I should have written panels I suppose | 13:26 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, The support period of that ended two full YEARS ago. | 13:26 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, screenshot!? | 13:26 | 
| cub | hmm wait, after my apt-get upgrade crashed, the panels showed up. I'm confused. | 13:28 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, :!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? | 13:28 | 
| smartboyhw | now that's weird. | 13:28 | 
| cub | yeah but I've had a couple of crashes right away I logged in | 13:29 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, hmm..... | 13:29 | 
| * smartboyhw zsyncs an ISO to test. | 13:29 | |
| cub | and now I chose "Shutdown" and it just logged me out. | 13:30 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, ah, that's actually what I'm encountering too. | 13:30 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, report a bug... | 13:31 | 
| smartboyhw | zequence, ^ any ideas for that? | 13:31 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, but it won't CRASH at the beginning... | 13:31 | 
| cub | no, it was when running apt-get upgrade it aborted | 13:31 | 
| OvenWerks | smartboyhw, cub: I think I have read in the xubuntu channel something about that. | 13:31 | 
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, eh.... | 13:31 | 
| cub | so I ran Software Updater, which crashed and tehn voila panels decided to show up | 13:32 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, screenshots... | 13:32 | 
| OvenWerks | If the last ISO is the 21st it may be fixed by now. | 13:32 | 
| cub | perhaps | 13:32 | 
| cub | It suggested I do a bug report so I did | 13:32 | 
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, yeah, but I'm keeping on wondering about that oss-config and osspd thing | 13:32 | 
| OvenWerks | It is hard to know what to do on that. My kubuntu only has osspd. | 13:35 | 
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, the problem is that: | 13:35 | 
| smartboyhw | <smartboyhw> Here's the problem. oss-compat recommends osspd, but osspd conflicts and replaces it | 13:35 | 
| smartboyhw | <smartboyhw> I am thinking if this is a alsa-base problem, or a oss-compat or osspd problem. | 13:35 | 
| smartboyhw | <smartboyhw> The actual issue is that osspd provides it's own oss. | 13:35 | 
| OvenWerks | Yes, that is what it is for. So we should look and see if we include oss-compat and maybe remove it. | 13:36 | 
| OvenWerks | osspd works with alsa as oss-compat does, but also works directly with pulse. | 13:37 | 
| OvenWerks | Can you put an email in the list? That will remind me to look at it later today when I have time. I will go through the seeds. | 13:38 | 
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, OK. | 13:38 | 
| OvenWerks | I need to get to work. | 13:39 | 
| smartboyhw | Hey DarkEra | 13:45 | 
| DarkEra | hi smartboyhw | 13:46 | 
| cub | huh Saucy installed Wine with the default installation | 13:49 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, !? | 13:49 | 
| cub | is there a common place we usually put screenshot? | 13:51 | 
| cub | I've seen some link but never paid attention to where it actually was | 13:52 | 
| smartboyhw | !screenshot | 13:52 | 
| ubottu | Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. | 13:52 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, ^ | 13:52 | 
| cub | aha | 13:52 | 
| cub | http://imagebin.org/262566 | 13:56 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, seriously? I can't see the package (AT ALL) in the manifests.... | 13:57 | 
| * smartboyhw is starting to think that cub has a strange computer. | 13:58 | |
| cub | that might be the case, but I don't think it would install Wine by itself though. :P | 13:58 | 
| cub | perhaps something has it as dependency? | 13:59 | 
| cub | audio plugins | 13:59 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, dependency? | 13:59 | 
| smartboyhw | Seriously, our daily build doesn't even CONTAIN that package. | 13:59 | 
| cub | let's see what it says if I try to remove it | 14:01 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, so what DOES it say?:P | 14:02 | 
| cub | nothing so far. Synaptic won't start. | 14:03 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, !??!?!?!?!?? | 14:03 | 
| DarkEra | cub, try the terminal | 14:03 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, use terminal, apt-get remove wine | 14:03 | 
| smartboyhw | sudo of course. | 14:03 | 
| cub | yeah, even more fun | 14:04 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, how many GB of RAM do you have on your computer? | 14:04 | 
| cub | "Package 'wine' is not installed, so not removed." | 14:04 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, wine1.4 | 14:04 | 
| cub | 4 GB on host, 1 GB for VBox | 14:04 | 
| DarkEra | smartboyhw, not surprizing to me... some things won't start sometimes in development releases | 14:05 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, hmm OK... | 14:05 | 
| cub | hm winetricks depends on wine. | 14:05 | 
| cub | so what is winetricks? :D | 14:06 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, you installed winetricks yourself? | 14:06 | 
| smartboyhw | We don't have any package starting with "wine" | 14:06 | 
| smartboyhw | ... | 14:06 | 
| smartboyhw | in our iamges | 14:06 | 
| cub | nope | 14:06 | 
| cub | I have just installed, booted up, logged in and ran update and upgrade | 14:07 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, where does it fail to install for amd64? | 14:07 | 
| cub | the amd64 will show the first low res "Ubuntu Studio . . . . . " then it goes black never to return | 14:07 | 
| cub | but that might be something with Vbox on my host | 14:08 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, heck, I have less RAM used for my VirtualBox VM (892 MB) and it passes through) | 14:08 | 
| cub | but the i386 installed right away | 14:08 | 
| smartboyhw | ..... | 14:08 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, are you sure your computer is amd64!? | 14:08 | 
| cub | hehe yes. My host is amd64 and my other vboxes runt amd64 | 14:09 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, I don't have that problem even I have the screen. | 14:09 | 
| DarkEra | i never could install a 64bit in VB | 14:09 | 
| smartboyhw | DarkEra, fail.:P | 14:09 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, DarkEra what processor do you have on your computers? | 14:10 | 
| cub | intel i5 | 14:10 | 
| smartboyhw | cub, intel i5 here too. | 14:10 | 
| smartboyhw | What generation? | 14:10 | 
| cub | I have to finish up some work stuff..bbl | 14:10 | 
| DarkEra | smartboyhw, it's known 64bit won't always work on VB | 14:11 | 
| DarkEra | i hav a Core 2 Duo 1.83 Ghz | 14:11 | 
| smartboyhw | DarkEra, it always works for me (and I'm a heavy tester) | 14:11 | 
| DarkEra | weird | 14:14 | 
| smartboyhw | DarkEra, BTW can you have a readthrough of http://people.ubuntu.com/~smartboyhw/Ubuntu_ISO_Testing_CLASSROOM.pdf ? | 14:15 | 
| DarkEra | smartboyhw, will do so this evening ;) | 14:16 | 
| DarkEra | ok guys i'll be back later this evening. | 14:44 | 
| zequence | Debian import freeze was moved up to 25th of July | 15:57 | 
| smartboyhw | zequence, yeah. Get ardour3 before then:) | 15:58 | 
| zequence | I think we can get it before feature freeze even, just that it won't be synced automatically (all though, I'm not sure about how new packages are dealt with) | 15:58 | 
| zequence | some other things might be updated before than as well | 15:59 | 
| smartboyhw | zequence, DIFreeze is very near FF I think | 15:59 | 
| zequence | Yeah, I seem to remember the same | 15:59 | 
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| OvenWerks | Hmm, lots of changes. Hasn't been that long since I played with studio 13.10, but 700+ upgrades? | 23:28 | 
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