[03:32] <holstein> !ati
[07:59] <cub> I can't get the latest saucy iso to install on my virtualbox. I used amd64, is it worth to try i386 as well or is it more likely something with my hw that's causing trouble?
[08:00] <smartboyhw> cub, hmm?
[08:00] <smartboyhw> cub, actually the latest was really a long while ago.
[08:00] <cub> 21st of June
[08:00]  * smartboyhw has to look at the buildlogs of how images fail.
[08:01] <smartboyhw> osspd: Conflicts: oss-compat. What?
[08:02] <cub> I only get "piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addre=0xaddr" in the beginning, but from what I read that should cause any real trouble
[08:02] <cub> shouldn't...
[08:03] <smartboyhw> cub, well it happens always in Virtualbox :P
[08:03] <smartboyhw> I mean the piix4_smbus thing
[08:03] <smartboyhw> I can install it though.
[08:04] <smartboyhw> cub, have you activatedd VT-x support for your motherboard?
[08:04] <cub> that was my conclusion as well
[08:04] <cub> yeah, I run 12.04 and 13.04 in Vbox already
[08:05] <smartboyhw> cub, I will test it later.
[08:06] <cub> I'll download the i386 to try
[08:14] <smartboyhw> Hmm I know the problem now. It's the new version of oss-compat causing problems (it's uploaded on 20130621, nice match)
[08:16] <smartboyhw> Here's the problem. oss-compat recommends osspd, but osspd conflicts and replaces it
[08:16] <smartboyhw> The !?
[08:19] <cub> would an earlier build work then?
[08:19] <smartboyhw> cub, it should.
[08:20] <smartboyhw> I am thinking if this is a alsa-base problem, or a oss-compat or osspd problem.
[08:20] <smartboyhw> The actual issue is that osspd provides it's own oss.
[08:20]  * smartboyhw is perplexed.
[12:26] <madeinkobaia> Hi all : )
[12:26] <smartboyhw> Hey madeinkobaia 
[12:27] <madeinkobaia> Hi smartboyhw !
[12:27] <madeinkobaia> How are you ?
[12:32] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, great. Doing some Alpha 1 testing.
[12:35] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw: Ok, great.
[12:35] <madeinkobaia> For all, the new banner is now on line on all our social networks (g+, fb and youtube channel). 
[12:36] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, great:)
[12:37] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw: its a little bit conceptual design. Hope not too much :P
[12:47] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw: Did you see Kaj today ?
[12:47] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, no.
[12:47] <madeinkobaia> smartboyhw: : (
[12:54] <cub> smartboyhw, I tried an older iso for Saucy on amd64, same problem. However i386 from June 21st installed just fine. Well, except I have no menus but otherwise fine. :P
[13:20] <smartboyhw> cub, no menus!?
[13:24] <smartboyhw> zequence, holy christ:
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Latest email in linux-rt-users
[13:24] <smartboyhw> I was using ubuntu 9.10 (ubuntustudio-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso) with linux-rt package.
[13:24] <smartboyhw> ;O
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Who is still using that!?
[13:25] <cub> If it works, don't mess with it. ;)
[13:26] <cub> smartboyhw, menus, well I should have written panels I suppose
[13:26] <smartboyhw> cub, The support period of that ended two full YEARS ago.
[13:26] <smartboyhw> cub, screenshot!?
[13:28] <cub> hmm wait, after my apt-get upgrade crashed, the panels showed up.  I'm confused.
[13:28] <smartboyhw> cub, :!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[13:28] <smartboyhw> now that's weird.
[13:29] <cub> yeah but I've had a couple of crashes right away I logged in
[13:29] <smartboyhw> cub, hmm.....
[13:29]  * smartboyhw zsyncs an ISO to test.
[13:30] <cub> and now I chose "Shutdown" and it just logged me out.
[13:30] <smartboyhw> cub, ah, that's actually what I'm encountering too.
[13:31] <smartboyhw> cub, report a bug...
[13:31] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^ any ideas for that?
[13:31] <smartboyhw> cub, but it won't CRASH at the beginning...
[13:31] <cub> no, it was when running apt-get upgrade it aborted
[13:31] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw, cub: I think I have read in the xubuntu channel something about that.
[13:31] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, eh....
[13:32] <cub> so I ran Software Updater, which crashed and tehn voila panels decided to show up
[13:32] <smartboyhw> cub, screenshots...
[13:32] <OvenWerks> If the last ISO is the 21st it may be fixed by now.
[13:32] <cub> perhaps
[13:32] <cub> It suggested I do a bug report so I did
[13:32] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, yeah, but I'm keeping on wondering about that oss-config and osspd thing
[13:35] <OvenWerks> It is hard to know what to do on that. My kubuntu only has osspd.
[13:35] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, the problem is that:
 Here's the problem. oss-compat recommends osspd, but osspd conflicts and replaces it
 I am thinking if this is a alsa-base problem, or a oss-compat or osspd problem.
 The actual issue is that osspd provides it's own oss.
[13:36] <OvenWerks> Yes, that is what it is for. So we should look and see if we include oss-compat and maybe remove it.
[13:37] <OvenWerks> osspd works with alsa as oss-compat does, but also works directly with pulse.
[13:38] <OvenWerks> Can you put an email in the list? That will remind me to look at it later today when I have time. I will go through the seeds.
[13:38] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, OK.
[13:39] <OvenWerks> I need to get to work.
[13:45] <smartboyhw> Hey DarkEra 
[13:46] <DarkEra> hi smartboyhw 
[13:49] <cub> huh Saucy installed Wine with the default installation
[13:49] <smartboyhw> cub, !?
[13:51] <cub> is there a common place we usually put screenshot?
[13:52] <cub> I've seen some link but never paid attention to where it actually was
[13:52] <smartboyhw> !screenshot
[13:52] <smartboyhw> cub, ^
[13:52] <cub> aha
[13:56] <cub> http://imagebin.org/262566
[13:57] <smartboyhw> cub, seriously? I can't see the package (AT ALL) in the manifests....
[13:58]  * smartboyhw is starting to think that cub has a strange computer.
[13:58] <cub> that might be the case, but I don't think it would install Wine by itself though. :P
[13:59] <cub> perhaps something has it as dependency?
[13:59] <cub> audio plugins
[13:59] <smartboyhw> cub, dependency?
[13:59] <smartboyhw> Seriously, our daily build doesn't even CONTAIN that package.
[14:01] <cub> let's see what it says if I try to remove it
[14:02] <smartboyhw> cub, so what DOES it say?:P
[14:03] <cub> nothing so far. Synaptic won't start.
[14:03] <smartboyhw> cub, !??!?!?!?!??
[14:03] <DarkEra> cub, try the terminal
[14:03] <smartboyhw> cub, use terminal, apt-get remove wine
[14:03] <smartboyhw> sudo of course.
[14:04] <cub> yeah, even more fun
[14:04] <smartboyhw> cub, how many GB of RAM do you have on your computer?
[14:04] <cub> "Package 'wine' is not installed, so not removed."
[14:04] <smartboyhw> cub, wine1.4
[14:04] <cub> 4 GB on host, 1 GB for VBox
[14:05] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, not surprizing to me... some things won't start sometimes in development releases
[14:05] <smartboyhw> cub, hmm OK...
[14:05] <cub> hm winetricks depends on wine.
[14:06] <cub> so what is winetricks? :D
[14:06] <smartboyhw> cub, you installed winetricks yourself?
[14:06] <smartboyhw> We don't have any package starting with "wine"
[14:06] <smartboyhw> ...
[14:06] <smartboyhw> in our iamges
[14:06] <cub> nope
[14:07] <cub> I have just installed, booted up, logged in and ran update and upgrade
[14:07] <smartboyhw> cub, where does it fail to install for amd64?
[14:07] <cub> the amd64 will show the first low res "Ubuntu Studio . . . . . " then it goes black never to return
[14:08] <cub> but that might be something with Vbox on my host
[14:08] <smartboyhw> cub, heck, I have less RAM used for my VirtualBox VM (892 MB) and it passes through)
[14:08] <cub> but the i386 installed right away
[14:08] <smartboyhw> .....
[14:08] <smartboyhw> cub, are you sure your computer is amd64!?
[14:09] <cub> hehe yes. My host is amd64 and my other vboxes runt amd64
[14:09] <smartboyhw> cub, I don't have that problem even I have the screen.
[14:09] <DarkEra> i never could install a 64bit in VB
[14:09] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, fail.:P
[14:10] <smartboyhw> cub, DarkEra what processor do you have on your computers?
[14:10] <cub> intel i5
[14:10] <smartboyhw> cub, intel i5 here too.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> What generation?
[14:10] <cub> I have to finish up some work stuff..bbl
[14:11] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, it's known 64bit won't always work on VB
[14:11] <DarkEra> i hav a Core 2 Duo 1.83 Ghz
[14:11] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, it always works for me (and I'm a heavy tester)
[14:14] <DarkEra> weird
[14:15] <smartboyhw> DarkEra, BTW can you have a readthrough of http://people.ubuntu.com/~smartboyhw/Ubuntu_ISO_Testing_CLASSROOM.pdf ?
[14:16] <DarkEra> smartboyhw, will do so this evening ;)
[14:44] <DarkEra> ok guys i'll be back later this evening. 
[15:57] <zequence> Debian import freeze was moved up to 25th of July
[15:58] <smartboyhw> zequence, yeah. Get ardour3 before then:)
[15:58] <zequence> I think we can get it before feature freeze even, just that it won't be synced automatically (all though, I'm not sure about how new packages are dealt with)
[15:59] <zequence> some other things might be updated before than as well
[15:59] <smartboyhw> zequence, DIFreeze is very near FF I think
[15:59] <zequence> Yeah, I seem to remember the same
[23:28] <OvenWerks> Hmm, lots of changes. Hasn't been that long since I played with studio 13.10, but 700+ upgrades?