[03:32] !ati [03:32] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [07:59] I can't get the latest saucy iso to install on my virtualbox. I used amd64, is it worth to try i386 as well or is it more likely something with my hw that's causing trouble? [08:00] cub, hmm? [08:00] cub, actually the latest was really a long while ago. [08:00] 21st of June [08:00] * smartboyhw has to look at the buildlogs of how images fail. [08:01] osspd: Conflicts: oss-compat. What? [08:02] I only get "piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addre=0xaddr" in the beginning, but from what I read that should cause any real trouble [08:02] shouldn't... [08:03] cub, well it happens always in Virtualbox :P [08:03] I mean the piix4_smbus thing [08:03] I can install it though. [08:04] cub, have you activatedd VT-x support for your motherboard? [08:04] that was my conclusion as well [08:04] yeah, I run 12.04 and 13.04 in Vbox already [08:05] cub, I will test it later. [08:06] I'll download the i386 to try [08:14] Hmm I know the problem now. It's the new version of oss-compat causing problems (it's uploaded on 20130621, nice match) [08:16] Here's the problem. oss-compat recommends osspd, but osspd conflicts and replaces it [08:16] The !? [08:19] would an earlier build work then? [08:19] cub, it should. [08:20] I am thinking if this is a alsa-base problem, or a oss-compat or osspd problem. [08:20] The actual issue is that osspd provides it's own oss. [08:20] * smartboyhw is perplexed. [12:26] Hi all : ) [12:26] Hey madeinkobaia [12:27] Hi smartboyhw ! [12:27] How are you ? [12:32] madeinkobaia, great. Doing some Alpha 1 testing. [12:35] smartboyhw: Ok, great. [12:35] For all, the new banner is now on line on all our social networks (g+, fb and youtube channel). [12:36] madeinkobaia, great:) [12:37] smartboyhw: its a little bit conceptual design. Hope not too much :P [12:47] smartboyhw: Did you see Kaj today ? [12:47] madeinkobaia, no. [12:47] smartboyhw: : ( [12:54] smartboyhw, I tried an older iso for Saucy on amd64, same problem. However i386 from June 21st installed just fine. Well, except I have no menus but otherwise fine. :P [13:20] cub, no menus!? [13:24] zequence, holy christ: [13:24] Latest email in linux-rt-users [13:24] I was using ubuntu 9.10 (ubuntustudio-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso) with linux-rt package. [13:24] ;O [13:24] Who is still using that!? [13:25] If it works, don't mess with it. ;) [13:26] smartboyhw, menus, well I should have written panels I suppose [13:26] cub, The support period of that ended two full YEARS ago. [13:26] cub, screenshot!? [13:28] hmm wait, after my apt-get upgrade crashed, the panels showed up. I'm confused. [13:28] cub, :!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? [13:28] now that's weird. [13:29] yeah but I've had a couple of crashes right away I logged in [13:29] cub, hmm..... [13:29] * smartboyhw zsyncs an ISO to test. [13:30] and now I chose "Shutdown" and it just logged me out. [13:30] cub, ah, that's actually what I'm encountering too. [13:31] cub, report a bug... [13:31] zequence, ^ any ideas for that? [13:31] cub, but it won't CRASH at the beginning... [13:31] no, it was when running apt-get upgrade it aborted [13:31] smartboyhw, cub: I think I have read in the xubuntu channel something about that. [13:31] OvenWerks, eh.... [13:32] so I ran Software Updater, which crashed and tehn voila panels decided to show up [13:32] cub, screenshots... [13:32] If the last ISO is the 21st it may be fixed by now. [13:32] perhaps [13:32] It suggested I do a bug report so I did [13:32] OvenWerks, yeah, but I'm keeping on wondering about that oss-config and osspd thing [13:35] It is hard to know what to do on that. My kubuntu only has osspd. [13:35] OvenWerks, the problem is that: [13:35] Here's the problem. oss-compat recommends osspd, but osspd conflicts and replaces it [13:35] I am thinking if this is a alsa-base problem, or a oss-compat or osspd problem. [13:35] The actual issue is that osspd provides it's own oss. [13:36] Yes, that is what it is for. So we should look and see if we include oss-compat and maybe remove it. [13:37] osspd works with alsa as oss-compat does, but also works directly with pulse. [13:38] Can you put an email in the list? That will remind me to look at it later today when I have time. I will go through the seeds. [13:38] OvenWerks, OK. [13:39] I need to get to work. [13:45] Hey DarkEra [13:46] hi smartboyhw [13:49] huh Saucy installed Wine with the default installation [13:49] cub, !? [13:51] is there a common place we usually put screenshot? [13:52] I've seen some link but never paid attention to where it actually was [13:52] !screenshot [13:52] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [13:52] cub, ^ [13:52] aha [13:56] http://imagebin.org/262566 [13:57] cub, seriously? I can't see the package (AT ALL) in the manifests.... [13:58] * smartboyhw is starting to think that cub has a strange computer. [13:58] that might be the case, but I don't think it would install Wine by itself though. :P [13:59] perhaps something has it as dependency? [13:59] audio plugins [13:59] cub, dependency? [13:59] Seriously, our daily build doesn't even CONTAIN that package. [14:01] let's see what it says if I try to remove it [14:02] cub, so what DOES it say?:P [14:03] nothing so far. Synaptic won't start. [14:03] cub, !??!?!?!?!?? [14:03] cub, try the terminal [14:03] cub, use terminal, apt-get remove wine [14:03] sudo of course. [14:04] yeah, even more fun [14:04] cub, how many GB of RAM do you have on your computer? [14:04] "Package 'wine' is not installed, so not removed." [14:04] cub, wine1.4 [14:04] 4 GB on host, 1 GB for VBox [14:05] smartboyhw, not surprizing to me... some things won't start sometimes in development releases [14:05] cub, hmm OK... [14:05] hm winetricks depends on wine. [14:06] so what is winetricks? :D [14:06] cub, you installed winetricks yourself? [14:06] We don't have any package starting with "wine" [14:06] ... [14:06] in our iamges [14:06] nope [14:07] I have just installed, booted up, logged in and ran update and upgrade [14:07] cub, where does it fail to install for amd64? [14:07] the amd64 will show the first low res "Ubuntu Studio . . . . . " then it goes black never to return [14:08] but that might be something with Vbox on my host [14:08] cub, heck, I have less RAM used for my VirtualBox VM (892 MB) and it passes through) [14:08] but the i386 installed right away [14:08] ..... [14:08] cub, are you sure your computer is amd64!? [14:09] hehe yes. My host is amd64 and my other vboxes runt amd64 [14:09] cub, I don't have that problem even I have the screen. [14:09] i never could install a 64bit in VB [14:09] DarkEra, fail.:P [14:10] cub, DarkEra what processor do you have on your computers? [14:10] intel i5 [14:10] cub, intel i5 here too. [14:10] What generation? [14:10] I have to finish up some work stuff..bbl [14:11] smartboyhw, it's known 64bit won't always work on VB [14:11] i hav a Core 2 Duo 1.83 Ghz [14:11] DarkEra, it always works for me (and I'm a heavy tester) [14:14] weird [14:15] DarkEra, BTW can you have a readthrough of http://people.ubuntu.com/~smartboyhw/Ubuntu_ISO_Testing_CLASSROOM.pdf ? [14:16] smartboyhw, will do so this evening ;) [14:44] ok guys i'll be back later this evening. [15:57] Debian import freeze was moved up to 25th of July [15:58] zequence, yeah. Get ardour3 before then:) [15:58] I think we can get it before feature freeze even, just that it won't be synced automatically (all though, I'm not sure about how new packages are dealt with) [15:59] some other things might be updated before than as well [15:59] zequence, DIFreeze is very near FF I think [15:59] Yeah, I seem to remember the same === contrapunctus is now known as EroSannin === EroSannin is now known as contrapunctus === contrapunctus is now known as EroSannin === EroSannin is now known as HisaoNakai === HisaoNakai is now known as HisaoNakai_ === HisaoNakai_ is now known as HisaoNakai__ === HisaoNakai__ is now known as EroSannin === EroSannin is now known as EroSannin_ === EroSannin_ is now known as EroSannin__ === EroSannin__ is now known as contrapunctus === contrapunctus is now known as contrapunctus_ === contrapunctus_ is now known as contrapunctus__ === contrapunctus__ is now known as contrapunctus_ === contrapunctus_ is now known as HisaoNakai [23:28] Hmm, lots of changes. Hasn't been that long since I played with studio 13.10, but 700+ upgrades?