[00:23] <wgrant> saiarcot895: We can enable either, but normally we just do armhf
[00:23] <wgrant> Since armel is largely pointless nowadays, and gone since raring
[12:24] <saiarcot895> Is there any reason a package would build in Wheezy, but not on Saucy (armhf)?
[12:26] <cjwatson> saiarcot895: Software moves on so there are various reasons.  We'd need to see a build log to even make plausible guesses.
[12:27] <saiarcot895> cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openscenegraph/3.0.1-4.1/+build/4660174/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-armhf.openscenegraph_3.0.1-4.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:27] <saiarcot895> The errors are that there are inconsistent typedefs
[12:28] <saiarcot895> "conflicting declaration"
[12:28] <cjwatson> Ah, that's a standard thing for Ubuntu ARM
[12:28]  * cjwatson looks for the FAQ
[12:30] <cjwatson> saiarcot895: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/FTBFS#OpenGL_and_Qt_combination and possibly the following item too
[12:31] <saiarcot895> cjwatson: ok
[12:32] <saiarcot895> cjwatson: Ah well, I hoped I could get openscenegraph to compile on ARM
[12:32] <cjwatson> It is no doubt possible, but this class of problem is usually not trivial, or at least I don't find it so
[14:50] <Felishia> hey
[14:50] <Felishia> I need help
[14:50] <Felishia> I created a python script I'd like to share on launchpad
[14:50] <Felishia> it's something kinda rudementary but useful
[14:50] <Felishia> however it asks me for a lot of stuff
[14:51] <Felishia> and deb I don't know what how to do that
[14:51] <cjwatson> Perhaps https://help.launchpad.net/Code/QuickStart would help
[14:51] <cjwatson> You don't have to create .deb packages if you don't want to
[14:54] <Felishia> cjwatson well that's ok...
[14:54] <Felishia> but it asks me for the openGPG key
[14:54] <Felishia> and I can't get one
[14:55] <cjwatson> Felishia: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey
[14:56] <Felishia> wait
[14:56] <Felishia> this computer is not mine
[14:56] <Felishia> I have no computer
[14:56] <Felishia> and this ubuntu is version 9.04
[14:57] <cjwatson> As that page says, you don't need a GPG key for most of Launchpad, including hosting code
[14:58] <Felishia> mmm...
[14:58] <Felishia> then how I do that? :(
[14:58] <cjwatson> You do need an SSH key to post code
[14:58] <cjwatson> I suggest getting hold of a cheap USB stick to keep your keys on, if you don't have a secure system of your own
[14:59] <Felishia> I have no a computer
[15:00] <Felishia> so I need a SSH key
[15:00] <cjwatson> Yes
[15:01] <Felishia> does my karma fades?
[15:01] <Felishia> I mean I seem to have less karma today ._.
[15:01] <cjwatson> As for "a lot of stuff" in general - Launchpad has a lot of facilities but remember that most of them are optional.  It generally says when something's required
[15:02] <cjwatson> Yes, karma diminishes over time
[15:02] <Felishia> O_O
[15:02] <Felishia> but I had 448
[15:02] <cjwatson> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma
[15:02] <Felishia> and now I have 404
[15:02] <cjwatson> I wouldn't get too hung up on it :)
[15:02] <cjwatson> It's meant to reflect recent activity, not all activity ever
[15:03] <dobey> yeah, karma is generally useless info
[15:03] <dobey> i used to have 30K+ karma
[15:03] <dobey> now it's ~13K
[15:09] <Felishia> now what?
[15:09] <Felishia> key uploaded
[15:09] <Felishia> but it has all the ramdom stuff about root from the library XD
[15:11] <cjwatson> Make sure you actually have a safe copy of the keys (private and public) somewhere persistent
[15:11] <Felishia> so where can I upload the code?
[15:12] <cjwatson> Beyond that, I'd suggest you start from the front page of help.launchpad.net - it's structured as a walkthrough of various goals, and you'll do better with that than with me finding bits of it for you
[15:12] <cjwatson> Then ask about specific things you're having trouble with, rather than a general "how do I" which we're likely to answer by quoting the help docs :)
[15:13] <dobey> if it's ubuntu 9.04, it might be a problem
[15:13] <Felishia> :o
[15:13] <dobey> i don't know if the bzr on 9.04 supports v2 branches
[15:13] <Felishia> I think I found it :)
[15:14] <dobey> and i think the server will fail if you try to create a new branch on it that isn't v2
[15:15] <Felishia> damn... what
[15:16] <Felishia> wait
[15:16] <Felishia> cat /etc/issue says ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[15:16] <Felishia> that sounds better
[15:19] <Felishia> so should I do that command
[15:19] <Felishia> and why +junk?
[15:19] <Felishia> it's a phyton little kitty script :3 with a installer
[15:19] <Felishia> should I do tar.gz packaging?
[15:19] <cjwatson> +junk was due to be renamed to +personal at some point but that never happened
[15:19] <cjwatson> It just means "doesn't have an associated project"
[15:20] <cjwatson> You can either create a project and push code using bzr, or push code to a +junk branch using bzr, or create a project and upload a .tar.gz
[15:20] <cjwatson> (as a file release)
[15:20] <cjwatson> Or some combination
[15:21] <Felishia> I want to improve that script
[15:21] <Felishia> so it must be a project
[15:21] <Felishia> ???
[15:28] <cjwatson> Doesn't have to be.
[15:28] <cjwatson> I would only bother with a project if I were expecting people to collaborate on it.
[15:28] <cjwatson> (As a rough rule of thumb.)
[15:28] <Felishia> it sounds better like that
[15:29] <Felishia> I'm not a programmer anyway XD
[15:44] <Felishia> so how do I use that bzr thing?
[15:44] <Felishia> I have the code
[15:44] <Felishia> what should I do then?
[15:45] <cjwatson> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
[15:47] <Felishia> Invalid url supplied to transport: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ejgonzalezviera/python-units/trunk": no supported schemes
[15:48] <cjwatson> Install the python-paramiko package
[15:49] <cjwatson> Though I think having openssh-client installed is also supposed to work; but you might as well have both
[15:50] <Felishia> both are installed
[15:53] <cjwatson> Make sure you've done 'bzr launchpad-login', and use 'ssh-add' to load your key into an ssh agent; compare http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905581
[15:54] <Felishia> The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.95.84)' can't be established.
[15:54] <Felishia> RSA key fingerprint is 9d:38:3a:63:b1:d5:6f:c4:44:67:53:49:2e:ee:fc:89.
[15:54] <Felishia> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
[15:54] <Felishia> Warning: Permanently added 'bazaar.launchpad.net,91.189.95.84' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[15:54] <Felishia> Permission denied (publickey).
[15:54] <Felishia> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[15:54] <Felishia> yes I did
[15:54] <cjwatson> I guess your Launchpad username isn't the same as your local one?
[15:55] <cjwatson> You need to do at least the HostName and User bits of https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair, under "Using a custom SSH key for Launchpad" (although setting IdentityFile won't hurt either)
[15:56] <cjwatson> At the moment it's trying to ssh to whateveryourlocalusernameis@bazaar.launchpad.net and being refused because that's not your LP user name
[15:57] <Felishia> so my username LP is ejgonzalezviera
[15:57] <Felishia> and here it's root
[15:59] <Felishia> root@SALAGENERAL14-desktop
[16:01] <cjwatson> Right, so follow the directions I just gave
[16:08] <Felishia> so how do I push?
[16:08] <Felishia> I don't understand...
[16:16] <cjwatson> Afraid I'm out of time; maybe somebody else can help ...
[16:19] <saiarcot895> Felishia: are you trying to push a branch into Launchpad?
[16:20] <Felishia> yes
[16:20] <Felishia> but it doesn't work
[16:20] <Felishia> I'm trying with git now
[16:20] <Felishia> using sourceforge
[16:20] <Felishia> so that I can link it after
[16:22] <saiarcot895> Felishia: keep in mind that you won't be able to import a Git branch into a personal bzr branch
[16:23] <saiarcot895> Felishia: you can import it into a project, though
[16:23] <Felishia> I know that's what I'm going to do
[16:23] <Felishia> use sourceforge as the base for hosting the code
[16:37] <Felishia> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pythonunits/
[16:37] <Felishia> does it look decent? XD
[16:40] <saiarcot895> Felishia: looks good
[20:13] <czajkowski> StevenK: wgrant peeka boo :)
[23:18] <kalaka> hey guys, anybody wanna help me build my first PPA? :)
[23:29] <kalaka> how long does it usually take for a PPA to be built by launchpad?
[23:30] <kalaka> I'm worried because I did everything backwards, first I uploaded the source files, then I added the GPG and then I signed the Ubuntu COC, will the package get uploaded in a few hours?
[23:31] <StevenK> If you uploaded the source files unsigned or when LP didn't know about your key, they've likely been silently rejected.
[23:32] <kalaka> so what do I do? when i try to upload them again, it says "Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net"
[23:32] <wgrant> kalaka: That's a purely local check. Give dput the -f flag to override
[23:32] <kalaka> the source files are signed, but I didn't add my GPG to launchpad yet
[23:33] <kalaka> oh, OK, thanks a lot wgrant
[23:33] <StevenK> kalaka: You'll want to make certain LP knows about your GPG key before uploading.
[23:33] <kalaka> well, in my profile page, I can see my GPG key
[23:34] <kalaka> sorry pgp,