[01:25] <bigjools> roaksoax: around? Did you see this? https://code.launchpad.net/~ivoks/maas/fix-timezone/+merge/171539
[01:42] <roaksoax> bigjools: howdy. yeah i saw
[01:42] <bigjools> roaksoax: heya.  what did you think?
[01:42] <bigjools> seems ok to me, but ...
[01:43] <roaksoax> bigjools: not sure to be honest. doesnt cloud-init set the time to avoid the oauth issues??
[01:43] <roaksoax> i need to ask smoser
[01:43] <bigjools> oh good point
[01:43] <bigjools> but does that affect TZ?  should not
[01:43] <bigjools> or the reverse I mean, TZ doesn't affect base time
[01:44] <roaksoax> bigjools: i guess it should not. i havent tested it and dunno what are the implications of setting it to utc
[01:44] <bigjools> I can ask on the MP
[01:45] <roaksoax> ok cool
[01:45] <bigjools> if he tested it, then we can land it
[01:45] <roaksoax> yeah
[01:45] <roaksoax> smoser: around?
[01:46] <roaksoax> bigjools: though i think the oauth stuff also needs the same timezone
[01:47] <bigjools> if you get smoser I need to talk to him too!
[01:47]  * bigjools is in the timezone from hell
[01:54] <mwhudson> heh
[01:54] <mwhudson> bigjools: we can sob into our beers together!
[01:56] <lifeless> mmm sobbing
[01:56] <lifeless> oh wait
[02:00] <bigjools> mwhudson: I can't even take solace in that at the moment :(
[02:00] <mwhudson> bigjools: well you probably have 20+ degree heat
[02:01] <bigjools> mwhudson: not that, the Lyme
[02:01] <mwhudson> bigjools: i mean as an alternative compensation
[02:01] <bigjools> 16 today
[02:01] <bigjools> oh wait, 18
[02:01] <bigjools> gosh
[02:11] <mwhudson> bigjools: i just read your blog posts about lyme
[02:11] <mwhudson> bigjools: sounds awful, i hope the meds are finally doing some good
[02:11] <bigjools> mwhudson: sadly not yet, probably have a year of this to come
[02:11] <mwhudson> !
[02:11] <bigjools> thanks anyway
[02:16] <lifeless> bigjools: a year of the earth ?
[02:16] <bigjools> lifeless: ABx
[02:16] <lifeless> bigjools: is that due to the slow doubling rate?
[02:16] <bigjools> yeah
[02:17] <lifeless> I am wondering if I may have it; due to a bunch of symptom overlap - but haven't made time yet to investigate
[02:17] <lifeless> also terrified at the idea
[02:18] <bigjools> lifeless: echan, but grab me if you need to talk about it, I am rather an expert now, unfortunatelyu
[02:18] <lifeless> bigjools: ack on both counts :)
[02:19] <lifeless> bigjools: as you know I have another friend who also has it
[02:19] <bigjools> yeah
[03:22] <bigjools> "POST request failed: BadRequest - The supplied password must be 6-72 characters long and meet password complexity requirements"
[03:22]  * bigjools fumes
[03:28] <lifeless> uuidgen| sha1sum
[03:32] <bigjools> yes, but it's faux security
[12:37] <smoser> bigjools, roaksoax cloud-init does not set the time.
[12:37] <smoser> it only hack's its requests to match the server
[12:38] <smoser> its possibly problematic to jump the system clock forward or backward during boot
[12:38] <smoser> as it can result in hangs.
[12:38] <smoser> i believe i actually saw this with dhclient having issues, but i think that anything could  have an issue.
[12:39] <smoser> if your program does sleep 3
[12:39] <smoser> and then we change the clock 4 hours earlier
[12:39] <smoser> your program will wake  up when the clock actually reaches the new time
[12:39] <smoser> (pretty sure...)
[13:02] <roaksoax> smoser: so there would be no objections to change the timezone to utc by default in maas installations?
[13:02] <smoser> i dont have strong objections.
[13:02] <smoser> and cloud-init can be told to set the timezone
[13:03] <smoser> i'm not sure what the default timezone is in the images.
[13:05] <roaksoax> smoser: ok ;)
[13:11] <smoser> roaksoax, what did it do before?
[13:11] <smoser> you're talking about the d-i path, preseed, right?
[13:15] <roaksoax> smoser: yes.. before we didnt set a timezone but i think ntp was the one trying to set it up
[13:25] <smoser> i dont htink its ntp that is used.
[13:25] <smoser> possibly its geoip.
[13:26] <smoser> but id ditn think it did that.
[13:26] <smoser> utc is sane
[13:46] <roaksoax> ack