[00:12] <numberto> Hi guys, I am on ubuntu 13.04 with graphical card - Nvidia GeForce GT 520M, after installing official drivers unity broke. Remove it didn't help.
[00:12] <usr13> numberto: You removed Unity?
[00:12] <numberto> usr13: nope
[00:12] <usr13> "Remove it didn't help"?
[00:13] <numberto> usr13: sorry, removing official nvidia drivers didn't help (the one I have installed)
[00:13] <D-coy> m4v o7
[00:13] <D-coy> brb
[00:13] <usr13> numberto: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:14] <usr13> numberto: What does that ^^^ say?
[00:14] <adamk> numberto: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[00:14] <usr13> numberto: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Or just rename it.
[00:15] <OerHeks> gt520m sounds like optimus
[00:15] <numberto> OerHeks: yes
[00:15] <adamk> It does..  The Xorg log file would tell us.
[00:15] <adamk> numberto: If it is Optimus, you need to use bumblebee.
[00:16] <usr13> numberto: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   or  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:17] <numberto> adamk: http://pastebin.com/CS9Af3jY
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: You have to remove the 'nomodeset' option that you are passing to the kernel.
[00:18] <usr13> numberto: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   or sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: That should get the intel driver working properly.
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: To use the nvidia driver, you need to install bumblebee, however.
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: At, at the present moment, there is no need to remove the xorg.conf file, if you have one.
[00:18] <numberto> I am going to try now.
[00:19] <numberto> will be back in a sec
[00:19] <adamk> numberto: Despite usr13's insistance, that's not the problem here.
[00:19] <numberto> adamk: which files contains the nomodeset, so I don't have to do it all the time?
[00:19] <numberto> *file
[00:20] <usr13> adamk: Didn't he just say that he installed the Nvidia driver?  And that he removed it?   Do you see:  "Warning, couldn't open module nvidia" in his paste: http://pastebin.com/CS9Af3jY  ?
[00:21] <adamk> usr13: Yes, I saw both.  Both are irrelevent to his problem.. Xorg is clearly attempting to load the intel driver, as it should.
[00:21] <adamk> numberto: Do you have an /etc/default/grub file?
[00:22] <usr13> adamk: I can only guess that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is present and gumming up the works.
[00:22] <adamk> usr13: Whether it's present or not, it's not gumming up the works.
[00:22] <usr13> adamk: It is if it is trying to load a module that does not exist.
[00:23] <usr13> "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"
[00:23] <adamk> Yes, as I said, I saw that message in the Xorg log file.  It's irrelevent to his problem.
[00:24] <adamk> usr13: Xorg continues, and attempts to load the intel driver, as it should.  It fails to load the driver because numberto disable kernel modesetting.
[00:27] <usr13> adamk: What video card does he have?
[00:27] <madrazr> Hello everyone, just to experiment I switched to Kubuntu and switched back to Unity and my fonts in Firefox are messed up. Is there a way to reset the Firefox fonts to default? I am using Ubuntu 13.04
[00:27] <usr13> madrazr: /join #firefox
[00:28] <madrazr> usr13: well, I think this is Ubuntu specific
[00:28] <adamk> usr13: he has two...  An onboard intel GPU and a discrete nvidia one.
[00:28] <madrazr> I just started Ubuntu on Live USB and compared the fonts set in Firefox and they are the same
[00:28] <madrazr> I have a feeling Ubuntu is overriding the fonts somewhere
[00:28] <caesar_abby> how do you send a command (like tail) to another computer (through ssh)
[00:28] <usr13> adamk: Oh, ok.  Well, it would be good to see what exactly they are.  (output of lspci)
[00:28] <caesar_abby> ?
[00:29] <chris_> hello
[00:29] <usr13> madrazr: What version of Firefox is it?
[00:29] <madrazr> usr13: Firefox 22
[00:30] <chris_> how can i decrease the file size of a image like ubuntu so it can fit on a dvd-rw
[00:30] <usr13> madrazr: There are font configuration options in Firefox.  (Firefox has it's own font settings.(
[00:30] <adamk> usr13: His Xorg log file lists the PCI IDs.  The intel is something along the lines of a HD3000, and the nvidia is a GT520M
[00:31] <madrazr> usr13: which look exactly the same on my current Desktop and the LiveUSB version of Ubuntu 13.04
[00:31] <madrazr> usr13: look as in, set to the same fonts
[00:32] <chris_> ubuntu 13.04
[00:32] <usr13> madrazr: You are on 13.04? or ?
[00:32] <madrazr> usr13: yes, I am on 13.04
[00:32] <chris_> my current desktop is xubuntu
[00:32] <madrazr> usr13: I just rm -rf'ed .gnome2, .gconf etc along with .mozilla, let me try logging out and loggin in again
[00:32] <madrazr> and see what changes
[00:32] <madrazr> brb
[00:33] <usr13> mashlol: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2051050  Maybe...
[00:36] <UnrealPh> i downloaded a theme off of the website, and i can not figure out how to install it..
[00:36] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, which website? there are so many...
[00:36] <UnrealPh> ubuntu.com sorry
[00:36] <clemenstimpler> where are there links to themes? *wonder*
[00:37] <Jake85> t
[00:37] <UnrealPh> sorry ubuntuthemes.com
[00:37] <numberto> .
[00:37] <usr13> adamk: I suppose we would need to know which one he's plugged his monitor into.  Right?
[00:38] <numberto> adamk: didn't work. My resolution got little bigger but no unity and the resolution is still not big enough.
[00:38] <adamk> numberto: Pastebin the new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[00:38] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, , from what I can see (the site is currently down) it is unofficial - you should stay away from that, unless you know what you do(which you don't, else you wouldn't be here). But:
[00:38] <usr13> numberto: What options does  xrandr  give you?
[00:39] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, there is a package you can install via the software center, called "ubuntu-themes"
[00:39] <numberto> usr13: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[00:39] <numberto> Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[00:39] <numberto> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[00:39] <numberto>    1024x768        0.0*
[00:39] <numberto>    800x600        61.0
[00:39] <FloodBot1> numberto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, keep as a general rule: never use anything else but the software center for installing anything on your pc
[00:40] <UnrealPh> ahh ok
[00:40] <UnrealPh> i figure the website was linked with the offical
[00:40] <numberto> adamk: http://pastebin.com/PP2MQZth
[00:40] <adamk> numberto: Look at line 7...  You are still passing 'nomodeset' to the kernel.
[00:41] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh,  I do not really thnk so - do you have a link to an official ubuntu page? this should be rectified, if it is the case.
[00:41] <numberto> adamk: hmmm, what am I doing wrong? I did reboot and in grub pressed e, removed nomodeset and ctrl+x
[00:41] <adamk> numberto: Not really sure...  But apparently you didn't remove it despite what you think you did :-)
[00:41] <doug_> how can I install ie6 in wine on my ubuntu 12.04 noteboot... ie6 is not available in the list of apps.
[00:42] <numberto> adamk: I will try it again.
[00:42] <doug_> in winetricks
[00:42] <adamk> numberto: You should really edit the grub configuration files and regenerate the grub.cfg file.
[00:43] <saiarcot895> doug_: that should be in #winehq
[00:43] <doug_> saiarcot895, thanks
[00:45]  * evil-work test
[00:46] <usr13> adamk: It puzzles me that it appears that Unity was working before he installed Nvidia driver. He said, "after installing official drivers unity broke".  (Sounds like he is saying that Unity was working before he installed the Nvidia driver.)  If he installed from the Ubuntu Repo, I would suggest going to nvidia.com and get the driver from there and install it.
[00:47] <reisio> might start with going back to what was working already
[00:47] <adamk> usr13: The nvidia driver will automatically add 'nomodeset' as an option to the kernel.  This will break any open source drivers, including the intel one. If he wants to use the nvidia drivers, he needs to first get Xorg working with the intel driver again, then install bumblebee and the nvidia driver.
[00:48] <numberto> adamk: removed the nomodeset. It fixed the resolution problem, but unity is still not here. http://pastebin.com/Xm5saYJ9
[00:48] <usr13> adamk: Yea, but is he plugged into the Intel card?  Or is he plugged into the Nvidia GeForce GT 520M?
[00:50] <adamk> numberto: Can you bring up a terminal?  Your running this on the internal laptop screen, right?
[00:50] <usr13> adamk: At any rate, he is on vesa driver now, which will not do anything beyond 1024x768
[00:50] <adamk> usr13: Did you not even see his current pastebin?  He's using the intel driver now that he removed the nomodeset option.
[00:51] <numberto> adamk: yes. When I log in I see only my desktop. Then I just Ctrl+atl+T and start all other apps.
[00:51] <adamk> numberto: can you start unity from the terminal?
[00:52] <numberto> adamk: I tried, but now windows don't have top bars
[00:52] <numberto> adamk: unity is still not working
[00:54] <adamk> numberto: Can you pastebin the output of 'glxinfo' ?
[00:54] <adamk> Or not...
[00:55] <numberto> adamk: I was restarting X, did I miss any messages?
[00:55] <usr13> numberto:  glxinfo | pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[00:56] <usr13> numberto: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #And send resulting URL
[00:57] <numberto> usr13:  glxinfo http://pastebin.com/KkUpUqwj
[00:57] <numberto> usr13: xorg.conf is empty
[00:58] <usr13> Ok
[00:58] <adamk> numberto: Well we know you are at least now using the intel driver, and that it is working properly...
[00:59] <ehhh> lol, linux music players are even pickier than me on the tags
[00:59] <usr13> numberto: xrandr | pastebinit   #Send URL
[01:00] <reisio> tags?
[01:00] <ehhh> the fk
[01:00] <adamk> numberto: Somewhere between installing the nvidia driver and removing it, something happened to your unity configuration...  If you run 'unity --replace &' in a terminal, what happens? Does it crash?
[01:01] <ehhh> the song / artist information etc
[01:01] <numberto> adamk: resetting unity helped. I used these 2 commands
[01:01] <reisio> http://lordikc.free.fr/wordpress/?p=689 nom nom
[01:01] <numberto> adamk: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/     and    setsid unity
[01:01] <numberto> adamk: everything works now
[01:01] <bray90820> if there is any possible way to get IE 11 installed in wine then we can have netflix on ubuntu
[01:01] <bray90820> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/26/netflix-html5-streaming-on-microsofts-ie11/
[01:02] <ehhh> like the songs usually line up from, i.e. 1-10, now it's like 12,13,14,1,2,3,5,6,4,7
[01:02] <numberto> thanks guys for all your support. I really appreciate.
[01:02] <adamk> numberto: Woohoo :-)
[01:02] <adamk> numberto: Now, if you want to get the nvidia GPU working, look into bumblbee.
[01:02] <adamk> numberto: If you're happy with just using the intel GPU, then stick with that :-)
[01:02] <numberto> adamk: unity --replace is a deprecated function :)
[01:03] <numberto> adamk: wait, I don't use nvidia one now?
[01:03] <adamk> numberto: Yeah, I saw that when I tried :-)
[01:03] <adamk> numberto: No, you are using the intel GPU.
[01:03] <usr13> bray90820: Have you tried yet?
[01:03] <numberto> adamk: I have bubmblebee though, shouldn't both work now?
[01:03] <adamk> numberto: You tell me :-)  You said that when you installed the nvidia driver, it didn't work properly...
[01:04] <adamk> numberto: You can't use *just* the nvidia driver on an optimus laptop.  You have to have Xorg configured to use the intel GPU (as that's hardwired to the display), and then use bumblebee to load the nvidia GL driver when running 3D applications.
[01:05] <numberto> adamk: how can i test to see nvidia is working.
[01:05] <adamk> numberto: I can tell you right now it's not...
[01:05] <ehhh> anyway i'm completely in love with xfce / xubuntu, it's running so smoothly i didn't think i could blast this life into a 7 year old computer
[01:05] <numberto> adamk: is there a way to make it work?
[01:06] <usr13> numberto: Did you install from Ubuntu repo or did you download from nvidia.com?
[01:06] <adamk> numberto: I've never setup bumblebee and the nvidia driver.  Clearly, since you removed the nvidia driver, it's not going to work at the moment. What directions did you use to setup bumblebee?
[01:06] <ehhh> you'd think the motherboard would malfunction like everything did in windows when it ran, especially after all the kicks this thing's been through lol
[01:06] <numberto> usr13: ubuntu repo
[01:07] <numberto> adamk:  I used the one on ubuntu's official wiki
[01:07] <bray90820> usr13: i have not
[01:07] <bray90820> i have not tried it yeat
[01:07] <numberto> adamk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[01:08] <ehhh> !ot
[01:08] <adamk> numberto: OK, well you can try again, but this time make sure that 'nomodset' is *not* passed to the kernel.  That will break the intel driver, which is necessary on optimus.
[01:08] <numberto> adamk: do I have to unistall everything first?
[01:10] <adamk> numberto: If it were me, I'd remove the packages it told you install in step 3 and then start from step 3 again, though I don't know if that is strictly necessary.
[01:13] <numberto> I am not pro in irc, but if I want to send message to 2 or more people at the same time, how do I do that?
[01:15] <usr13> adamk: If it were me, I'd download from Nvidia and use their install.
[01:16] <usr13> adamk: Is he 64bit or 32?
[01:16] <adamk> I wouldn't.
[01:16] <usr13> Why not?
[01:17] <usr13> Because of subsequent kernel upgrades?
[01:17] <adamk> Because I don't ever recommend that for users on Ubuntu unless they really know what they are doing...  numberto isn't an expert.
[01:17] <usr13> numberto: Are you 64bit or 32bit?
[01:17] <numberto> usr13: 64 bit
[01:18] <numberto> adamk: I missed what you were talking because a restart. What exactly you don't recommend to do?
[01:18] <usr13> numberto: adamk There is Version 319.32 Release Date Tue Jun 25, 2013 See: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/63034
[01:18] <adamk> numberto: I don't recommend installing the nvidia driver directly from nvidia.com.  The one in the bumblebee repo should be designed to properly work with bumblebee.
[01:20] <daftykins> even the Linux one is growing in size rapidly :(
[01:21] <duskye> question: I used winetricks to install steam, but I can't seem to find where it installed it.
[01:21] <duskye> I checked in .wine but it doesn't show it there
[01:21] <usr13> Ok, gotta go for now....
[01:21] <duskye> And I know it's installed because I'm using it right now atm
[01:21] <numberto> adamk: looks like optirun works, does it mean that nvidia card is working now?
[01:22] <duskye> So does anyone know the directory?
[01:22] <adamk> numberto: Pastebin the output of 'optirun glxinfo'
[01:23] <numberto> http://pastebin.com/TRMdmwNq
[01:23] <numberto> adamk: http://pastebin.com/TRMdmwNq
[01:24] <adamk> numberto: Yep, it looks like it's working now.
[01:24] <nightfly> Hello, are the the init scripts for haproxy just terminally broken on Ubuntu Precise or has anyone actually had them work for them?
[01:24] <numberto> adamk: thanks for help. I spend literally hours trying to figure it out.
[01:25] <rmobenchain> I'm trying to watch some work related videos using Google Chrome on an Ubuntu 13.04 OS but am being told "Java (TM) is required to display some elements on this page."  What does this mean, and how do I fix the issue.  Am a bit lost here
[01:25] <nightfly> Well, you probably want icedtea installed
[01:26] <reisio> rmobenchain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin
[01:28] <rmobenchain> reisio:  another tab opened showing, "Please wait  The package you requested will install shortly." but nothing is happening
[01:28] <reisio> tab?
[01:29] <reisio> rmobenchain: oh, we don't click on links to install packages :)
[01:29] <reisio> rmobenchain: try sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[01:29] <rmobenchain> reisiso: I should've known that!!  :D
[01:30] <reisio> :D
[01:32] <LoveIsFraud> Ahghhhhhhh
[01:33] <ssms27> packetpushers
[01:33] <rmobenchain> reisio:: SUCCESS!!  Thank you!!
[01:39] <duskye> So did uh, anyone see my question?
[01:39] <reisio> duskye: I saw that one
[01:40] <duskye> Ah
[01:40] <duskye> Do you know where it's installed then?
[01:40] <duskye> Beacuse I've been looking everywhere
[01:40] <reisio> duskye: you used winetricks to install steam
[01:40] <reisio> duskye: it'd probably be in ~/.wine somewhere
[01:40] <duskye> Yes
[01:41] <reisio> duskye: find ~/.wine -iname '*steam*'
[01:41] <reisio> duskye: might also be findable via the dash/board thing
[01:43] <duskye> reisio nope it's not in ~/.wine
[01:43] <duskye> I found it in the dash though
[01:43] <reisio> :D
[01:43] <duskye> But the problem still remains as to _where_ it's installed
[01:43] <harris> hey
[01:43] <reisio> duskye: what did you run to "install" it?
[01:43] <duskye> just winetricks steam
[01:43] <duskye> that's it
[01:43] <harris> will ubuntu ever be available for the raspberry pi
[01:43] <reisio> duskye: okay it probably has its own prefix, then
[01:44] <reisio> duskye: ls -a ~/ | grep -i steam
[01:44] <reisio> harris: pretty sure Ubuntu already supports ARM
[01:45] <OerHeks> harris no, rasp pi is arm6 and ubuntu needs arm7+, join #ubuntu-arm for support
[01:45] <reisio> debian it is :p
[01:45] <duskye> reisio nope
[01:45] <reisio> raspberry pis are already pretty long in the tooth, though
[01:45] <duskye> it only sees Steam for Linux
[01:45] <reisio> duskye: well, find ~/ -iname '*steam*' then
[01:46] <duskye> I did
[01:46] <duskye> it didn't find anything
[01:46] <reisio> duskye: oh wait I'm seeing it here
[01:46] <reisio> duskye: look in /opt/
[01:46] <reisio> which actually makes sense
[01:46] <reisio> didn't realize winetricks had gotten so massive
[01:46] <reisio> 18144 lines
[01:47] <duskye> There is nothing in /opt/
[01:47] <harris> ok bye
[01:47] <duskye> Like I said I've been looking everywhere for where it's installed
[01:48] <reisio> duskye: if it's not in ~/ and it's not in /opt/, I doubt it's anywhere at all :)
[01:48] <duskye> But I'm running it right now in fact
[01:48] <duskye> I can even screenshot the empty folder lol
[01:48] <DreamFrog> I have a question about backtrack 5r3
[01:48] <reisio> duskye: okay, ps aux | grep -i steam
[01:49] <reisio> DreamFrog: maybe ask #backtrack
[01:49] <reisio> or #linux
[01:49] <k1l> !backtrack | DreamFrog
[01:49] <duskye> Ok I think we're getting somewhere now
[01:49] <reisio> or k1l could spam you about it, fun
[01:49] <duskye> It sees :\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe
[01:49] <duskye> *C:
[01:49] <duskye> Now I just have to figure out where that is
[01:49] <reisio> duskye: can you paste the complete line?
[01:50] <duskye> sure
[01:50] <duskye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803393/
[01:50] <reisio> weird
[01:50] <OerHeks> why steam trough wine ?
[01:51] <reisio> OerHeks: for the money of course
[01:51] <duskye> OerHecks: To install games that are not on Steam for Linux?
[01:51] <cgtdk> reisio: for the money?
[01:51] <reisio> the cash
[01:51] <cgtdk> what cash?
[01:51] <OerHeks> huh trough wine you get more games ? ?
[01:52] <reisio> cgtdk: good question
[01:52] <cgtdk> OerHeks: Yes, not all games have native versions for Linux
[01:52] <k1l> OerHeks: not all agmes are ported to native linux support.
[01:52] <duskye> Only other thing I could give you to help is that if I try to "Browser Local Files" through steam, Wine Exploler sends me straight too it
[01:52] <duskye> http://imgur.com/rMwpufH
[01:53] <reisio> duskye: ~/.local/share/wineprefixes/
[01:53] <duskye> Ahhhh there it is
[01:54] <duskye> Thank you.
[01:54] <reisio> I s'pose there are worse places than ~/.local
[01:54] <duskye> mhm
[01:54] <duskye> But thanks again, I've been looking for it all day.
[01:55] <reisio> find ~/ would have found it
[01:55] <reisio> so you clearly didn't run it :p
[01:55] <duskye> I did
[01:55] <reisio> lies :p
[01:55] <reisio> maybe you were root
[01:55] <duskye> I was not
[01:55] <reisio> sure sure :p
[01:56] <duskye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803412/
[01:57] <duskye> see?
[01:57] <Davai> ld
[01:59] <reisio> duskye: doesn't show the command you ran
[01:59] <duskye> find ~/ steam
[02:00] <reisio> 'find ~/ steam' just finds all files in the paths '~/' and 'steam'
[02:00] <reisio> 'steam' not existing, it only did the former
[02:00] <duskye> Ah
[02:00] <reisio> you'd of wanted find ~/ -iname '*steam*'
[02:00] <duskye> Ahh
[02:00] <duskye> I must have forgot to type it
[02:00] <reisio> :D
[02:00] <reisio> find -shangrila
[02:03] <phix> hey, is there are symlink / script to call what ever the default web browser is on a ubuntu system?
[02:03] <phix> call / execute / run kit
[02:03] <phix> it
[02:19] <jonny_> Could use a little help troubleshooting NFS on 13.04 Server.  /etc/export is setup as follows:  192.168.1.0/24(rw,async,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,crossmnt,fsid=0)
[02:20] <jonny_> I can connect to the share through OS X 10.7 but only through root... What to do?
[02:21] <evil-work> deinstall OSX
[02:21] <jonny_> Hahaha, good one!
[02:22] <evil-work> wow, a fanboy with humor
[02:24] <jonny_> really, left the feline nomenclature camp in '08 but some friends not so daring
[02:24] <spope> hi, I'm having trouble getting a 10.04 ubuntu box to show the login prompt at bootup, whats worse is the network isn't work, so I can't get in there either. Is there a way to bypass the majority of the boot strap process to get to the login?
[02:28] <somsip> !text | spope
[02:28] <Es0teric> whats the grep command to look at all processes running on the terminal?
[02:29] <somsip> spope: though I appreciate that will go through some steps you may not want to go through
 You have any NFS experience? Thinking this might have to do with user permissions
[02:29] <somsip> Es0teric: ps aux
[02:29] <Es0teric> i mean theres a grep command that lets you see the name of a program thats running... i forgot how the command goes
[02:29] <somsip> Es0teric: ps aux | grep programname
[02:29] <Es0teric> somsip ah, got it.. thanks man
[02:29] <spope> somsip: thanks. this is a server, not a desktop, so when you say text mode, are you just referring to not booting into X?
[02:29] <somsip> spope: yep
[02:30] <spope> so if the login screen isn't even showing up in text mode, to start, whats next?
[02:30] <Es0teric> crap... this makes it very difficult to stop elasticsearch
[02:30] <somsip> spope: but 'show the login prompt' is confusing. If it's a server, how are you logging in? SSH? Is SSH daemon not working?
[02:30] <Es0teric> somsip whats the command to stop all programs with the specific name?
[02:31] <spope> Im accessing the console on vmware
[02:31] <somsip> Es0teric: killall programname
[02:31] <spope> mostly because the network connection is not working either
[02:32] <Es0teric> somsip it says No matching processes belonging to you were found
[02:32] <somsip> spope: so how have you got to console if it won't show the login prompt? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your root problem here
[02:32] <somsip> Es0teric: are you using the right name?
[02:32] <Es0teric> somsip yes, i am trying to killall elasticsearch
[02:34] <spope> vmware will show you the "console", and by that I mean the default output, like if you had a screen connected to the server. by login prompt, I mean the system starts to boot up, and you see it going thru the bootup process, loading drivers etc, but it never gets to a place where it asks you for your user/pass.
[02:34] <somsip> Es0teric: is it running as elasticsearch? Or is it running in a shell? Try /var/run/ to see if there is a pid file for it
[02:34] <spope> you can always login to the server thru the console as well, but it never gets to that final state
[02:35] <Es0teric> somsip so you mean /var/run/ elasticsearch
[02:35] <Es0teric> ?
[02:35] <somsip> spope: so you cannot log in at all. Maybe you need to recover from a backup
[02:36] <spope> somsip: that is a potential solution
[02:36] <somsip> Es0teric: there *may* be something like /var/run/elasticsearch.pid that contains a pid you can kill with 'kill pid'. Maybe not though
[02:36] <somsip> !rescue | spope
[02:36] <somsip> sp - no - sorry. Try this http://is.gd/sTXV80
[02:36] <somsip> spope: ^^
[02:37] <Es0teric> somsip i think i got the pid
[02:37] <somsip> Es0teric: check before you kill it - ps aux | grep pid
[02:37] <spope> somsip: good idea, ill try that
[02:37] <Es0teric> somsip so to kill the pid i just do kill {pid} right?
[02:38] <somsip> Es0teric: yes. You can try with more params to really kill it if it refuses to die. man kill
[02:38] <Es0teric> somsip alright
[02:39] <Es0teric> somsip perfect, elasticsearch process was killed... now i need to start it up again
[02:39] <somsip> Es0teric: cool
[02:39] <Es0teric> somsip thanks for the help, man i appreciate it
[02:39] <somsip> Es0teric: np
[02:54] <spope> somsip: what will the recovery do exactly? resintall the OS?
[02:55] <somsip> spope: I'm not sure to be honest. That page implies you will see this screen, but it's not a reinstall. I think it just gives you filesystem access and not much else.
[02:55] <spope> fair enough
[02:55] <somsip> *this screen being the install screen
[02:57] <histo> spope: try booting in single user or recovery mode
[02:58] <spope> histo: how do you do that?
[02:58] <spope> the only thing I was able to find was holding shift when I booted, that displayed several kernels i could use, but no rescue mode
[03:01] <histo> spope: should be at the bottom of the kernel list
[03:02] <juxta> I'm thinking of seting up a crypto volume using cryptsetup - is there a way I can benchmark various crypto algorithms on my hardware?
[03:02] <histo> spope: or press e to edit one of your kernel lines and append single to the end of the line
[03:03] <spope> a space before single? XXX single?
[03:03] <usr13> yes
[03:09] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: Hey it was you that helped me earlier problem solved, thanks allot dude
[03:09] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: It's working fast again like it did before the upgrade also.
[03:09] <Ari-Yang> @ _helios_ I did? what did I help you with again? lol XD;
[03:09] <Ari-Yang> and that's good to here everything worked out, you're welcome :3
[03:10] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: the graphics driver
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> ah
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> you chose the proprietary one right?
[03:10] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: I have it set to a propietary and everything is working fast again lol
[03:10] <_helios_> no more crashing
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> I remember
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> nice!
[03:11] <_ACE_> hi
[03:12] <usr13> low
[03:15] <_ACE_> usr: showing a friend werchat from an android to raspberry pi :)
[03:16] <usr13> IC
[03:17] <Ari-Yang> _ACE_, usr13, just so you know, if you want to talk about off topic stuff you can check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:17] <usr13> Ari-Yang: Tnx
[03:17] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome :)
[03:18] <_ACE_> Ari-Yang: just making a statement not a discussion
[03:18] <somsip> !tmi | _ACE_
[03:27] <spope> somsip: your suggestions worked
[03:27] <spope> i was able to get in and fix the issues
[03:27] <spope> thank you
[03:27] <spope> very much
[03:27] <somsip> spope: np. Glad you got it sorted
[03:27] <spope> me too!
[03:29] <cstewart> Good Evening Ladies and Gents
[03:41] <semitones> ...
[03:41] <semitones> PING
[03:41]  * semitones hides submarine
[03:44] <aringan> I just upgraded my ubuntu from 8.04 to 10.04, and its network is not working
[03:44] <aringan> it's on another Vm machine
[03:44] <aringan> what should I check
[03:44] <aringan> ?
[03:46] <aringan> anyone here for help !?
[03:46] <tones> this channel doesnt support 10.04
[03:48] <nightfly> Hello, are the the init scripts for haproxy just terminally broken on Ubuntu Precise or has anyone actually had them work for them?
[03:49] <aringan> then which channel does ?
[03:50] <nightfly> aringan: You can ask in maybe ##linux
[03:50] <nightfly> Ubuntu 10.04 is not longer officially supported though
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> aringan, Upgrade it to 12.04 LTS, it has 5 years support.
[03:53] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, techncially 4 years now iirc
[03:53] <Ari-Yang> s/techncially/technically
[03:54] <tones> for upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, is it better to clean install or does it matter?
[03:54] <kostkon> aringan, server or desktop?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> tones, I always fresh install.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> theoretically 10.04 is fine.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> 10.04 to 12.04*
[03:55] <rlab> Im trying to pxe boot ubuntu 13.04 32bit and it seems to kernel panic because it cant assign all 00's to the onboard nic's mac, is there a way to manualy set a nic in the boot options ?, the nic works fine
[03:55] <rlab> mac*
[03:56] <rlab> The 00 mac is aparantly a issue with 3com devices
[03:56] <tones> will 12.04 look/act just like 10.04 with gnome?
[03:56] <k1l> !notunity | tones
[03:57] <Carlinhos> qt applications use my local language instead of the default system language, which is english. this is a fresh install. how can i solve this?
[03:57] <nightfly> That sounds correct
[03:57] <rlab> god dam ubuntu installer
[03:58] <Carlinhos> nightfly: were you replying to me?
[03:58] <nightfly> Yeah, by local language I assume you mean a language you selected at the user level
[03:59] <semitones> when I ssh
[03:59] <semitones> and it is all like
[04:00] <semitones> "verify that this is the computer that you want to connect to with this key"
[04:00] <Carlinhos> by local language i mean my country's language. i set english as the default language and everything looks good except for qt apps like smplayer and clementine. is there a way to change this? never happened on previous versions.
[04:00] <semitones> how do you use that key to verify?
[04:01] <ReadingHackspace> Anyone know a workaround for this?, http://imgur.com/FoysvUf
[04:01] <Carlinhos> this seems to be exactly my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140957 no solution though.
[04:02] <parallels> hello all
[04:05] <mpmc> Good morning parallels.
[04:13] <iwii> how to list my ppa sources in cli command ?
[04:13] <iwii> I want ppa-purge them
[04:13] <kaushal> Hi
[04:13] <kaushal> Are there skype application available for 13.04 desktop?
[04:14] <iwii> kaushal: use wine ?
[04:16] <xangua> kaushal: you can install skype in the software center
[04:16] <duskye> or you could follow this as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[04:17] <ReadingHackspace> skype on linux is horid..
[04:17] <ReadingHackspace> atleast the linux version is
[04:17] <duskye> very much so
[04:18] <Guest5571> i installed spotify on ubuntu studio today
[04:18] <Guest5571> works fantastically
[04:18] <duskye> Though I think the Windows 8 Skype is a big contender for being almost as horrid
[04:18] <kostkon_> ReadingHackspace: same features as win version just with a different gui
[04:18] <duskye> lol
[04:19] <ReadingHackspace> and the constant call dropping
[04:19] <kostkon_> ReadingHackspace: never experiencd that
[04:19] <ReadingHackspace> lucky =/
[04:19] <duskye> neither have i
[04:20] <ReadingHackspace> anyway, back to fighting the nic that thinks its mac addr is all 0's
[04:29] <kaushal> Hi
[04:29] <semitones> what is the equivalent to "aptitude search" in apt-get?
[04:29] <kaushal> xangua: Thanks it is working fine
[04:29] <kaushal> Any one have using pidgin?
[04:29] <rigved> semitones: apt-cache search
[04:29] <kaushal> I have unity-plugin-search
[04:30] <semitones> rigved, thanks -- i thought it might only search installed programs that way
[04:31] <rigved> semitones: welcome. it searches all the packages (installed or otherwise), which are available based on your apt sources.list
[04:32] <semitones> thanks!
[04:33] <dsnyders> Hi all.  How do I get thunderbird to periodically send an email to my work account  telling me how many emails it has received?
[04:33] <holstein> dsnyders: that would be challenging.. how about just a mail checker app?
[04:35] <dsnyders> holstein, my work computer is pretty locked down.  I don't think I could make a business case for installing a mail checker app.
[04:36] <holstein> dsnyders: i could.. it would go like this "i need to check my mail for business"
[04:36] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[04:37] <holstein> dsnyders: anyways.. you want to get a notification when you get email? you dont really need thunderbird to send you a mail, correct? you just want a notification?
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> dsnyders, If you have a phone with android you can have it show the email.
[04:49] <savagecroc> hey i'm using ufw, but i would like to add a rule that forwards one port to another port
[04:49] <savagecroc> can i manually add an iptables config to a file somewhere
[04:52] <dsnyders> holstein: yeah.  At a particular time, say 16:30, it emails me to say "You have received no messages" or "You have 5 new messages"
[04:54] <holstein> dsnyders: do you have a smartphone?
[04:55] <dsnyders> holstein, Yeah...?
[04:56] <holstein> dsnyders: thats what i would do.. a mail checker on the phone.. or just check my email on the phone
[04:57] <holstein> dsnyders: if you want a machine to check your email and email you, you'll need more than thnunderbird.. you'll need to script something on a machine that is always running, that will have the ability to email you, at your office
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> I actually get notified of free yahoo pop on my smart phone I added the android to the server call on my ubuntu thunderbird.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> I get the pop in ubuntu is what I meant
[04:58] <holstein> dsnyders: that would be generated from wherever that machine is running.. which could be your home IP.. that could be blocked by your work easily
[05:03] <jony_easyrider> why cron isn't executing it's commands?
[05:07] <pawel__> hello
[05:08] <savagecroc> jony_easyrider: how did you update cron?
[05:09] <savagecroc> did you use crontab -e?
[05:09] <dsnyders> holstein: Thanks for your help.  Goodnight.
[05:09] <jony_easyrider> savagecroc, with sudo crontab -e
[05:10] <somsip> jony_easyrider: and what does the cronjob look like that is failing. Can you paste?
[05:10] <savagecroc> jony_easyrider: what's the log file say?
[05:10] <somsip> !paste | jony_easyrider
[05:10] <babin> I have installed Ubuntu server 12.04 and now i need to setup apt- chache-ng server how can i do it , help me for step by step procedures
[05:12] <wheatthin> umm I don't think this is a howto place
[05:14] <wheatthin> babin, You can tho look on help.ubuntu.com.. it has step by step
[05:14] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu won't mount my SATA drive and grub doesn't see my Windows 7 install on it
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Were you on the channel earlier?
[05:14] <wheatthin> Hyperiant,  have you tried to see what fdisk has?
[05:15] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: Yes, I just finished the chkdsk and ran your commands (invalid operation on both iterations of the command)
[05:15] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: fdisk?
[05:15] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, to see if it can see it or not.
[05:15] <wheatthin> fdisk -l
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, You ran the sudo grub-install /dev/sda from  the ubuntu install, I had reversed the command?
[05:16] <ReadingHackspace> Screw 3com for not writing mac's to these interfaces -.-
[05:16] <jony_easyrider> somsip, paste.ubuntu.com/5803715/
[05:16] <jony_easyrider> savagecroc, how can I see the log file?
[05:17] <wheatthin> jony_easyrider, using cat usually helps
[05:17] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: I was instructed to run "sudo apt-get grub-install /dev/sda"
[05:17] <savagecroc> jony_easyrider: google, find out what cron outputs too, then use cat
[05:17] <somsip> jony_easyrider: when do you expect this to run?
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I did not have a apt-get.
[05:18] <wheatthin> lol Hyperiant yeah no, that's not right.. maybe you wrote it down wrong?
[05:18] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: The commands as copy-pasted from your messages: "sudo apt-get grub-install /dev/sda" and "sudo update-grub"
[05:18] <Hyperiant> I didn't write them down, I copy-pasted them into leafpad
[05:18] <wheatthin> well now instead of arguing, do it right
[05:19] <Hyperiant> I ain't arguing, and it's already in progress ><
[05:19] <Hyperiant> nevertheless, my install still isn't detected
[05:19] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, did you check to see if your drive was still plugged in?
[05:19] <wheatthin> and has power to it?
[05:19] <jony_easyrider> somsip, I tried to change it's day attribute, even I put * to all data but it won't execute either
[05:20] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I can boot to the drive if I point to it through the BIOS, and gparted sees it
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, could be but I was corrected with the backward install-grub but not a apt-get I would have been, but anyway it is sudo grub-install /dev/sda  however you can't mount the sdb1 at this point that is
[05:20] <jony_easyrider> savagecroc, if I execute those commands manually, it works
[05:21] <somsip> jony_easyrider: you must post what you are testing with. This cronjob triggers on 19th June just after 4am. Set it to every minute (all *) or every 10 mins (10 * * * *) and test it. Watch /var/log/syslog for errors
[05:22] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, if gparted sees it, then you need to update grub
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I would run a smartdisk check on the HD from windows since you can boot it. It might have a problem or a broken partition table or something is amiss.
[05:22] <babin> k
[05:22] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: smartdisk?
[05:22] <jony_easyrider> somsip, I put * to all of the attributes, but it won't execute it either
[05:22] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: How do you go about updating grub?  I've run sudo update-grub multiple times to no effect
[05:23] <gilbert_> hi, quick question (ubuntu 12.04 x64), i downloaded vuze from their website and I got it running and all but since I didn't install it through the software center i cant launch it from unity, can anyone direct me to a tutorial or something?
[05:23] <somsip> jony_easyrider: paste /var/log/syslog to show the errors. Repost the cronjob showing the edit you made
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, Here is a wiki on smart, I have not run one in windows so I'm not sure of what's available, but it is a good tool for finding problems. You might try the ##Windows channel to check that HD, it seems to be a windows problem in spite of it booting ubuntu does not mount and did not show any info in that script.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> windows or the HD that is.
[05:26] <whyrusleeping> for some reason, 'chsh' says 'you may not change the shell for 'me''
[05:26] <jony_easyrider> somsip, can I watch the error log in realtime?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Sorry your nick tabs to the other above I did not see that.
[05:27] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: I'm confused, what is it that I'm supposed to run?
[05:27] <somsip> jony_easyrider: tail -n 100 -f /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <wheatthin> jony_easyrider, yes, type   watch /var/log/logname
[05:27] <wheatthin> or whatever it is
[05:28] <whyrusleeping> anyone have any ideas?
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, There are tools to check the HD for errors and broken areas the wiki gives you a bit of information, I would ask in ##windows for these tools to check from windows since you can boot it.
[05:29] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: wouldn't it make more sense that it's an Ubuntu problem?  An HDD is an HDD, gparted sees it; it's not as if it's formatted weird, and chkdsk /f /r completed with no faults
[05:29] <Hyperiant> it's only ubuntu that refuses to mount it, no?
[05:30] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, you have to make ubuntu mount it in fstab
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Not to me, but I'm a long term user of both, it wont even mount something is up with that HD or windows.
[05:30] <Hyperiant> fstab?
[05:30] <wheatthin> yup..
[05:30] <Hyperiant> what's fstab
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> !fstab
[05:31] <wheatthin> man fstab and it'll tell you all aobut it
[05:31] <Hyperiant> makes enough sense.  so what do I do with it to make it work?
[05:31] <wheatthin> look at the link
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I would go to the ##windows channel and ask about smartdisk checks or other checks besides the chkdsk, or look on the web for smartdisk tools you can run from windows.
[05:33] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, it has no problem booting from that disk
[05:33] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: why does it return to a fault with the HDD?
[05:34] <Hyperiant> a comprehensive 10-hour chkdsk backed up by a consistently bootable and stable operating system present on the drive would seem to hint that the HDD isn't broken
[05:34] <Hyperiant> it's just that ubuntu isn't happy somehow
[05:35] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, just read up on the fstab try to make your mount point, get your blkid and follow the instructions
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, You can't even mount it, if it was in good shape it would a least mount in ubuntu, it should show in home in the left panel and a click should open it.
[05:35] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: as far as I've read, I'm supposed to "mount /dev/sdb1"?
[05:35] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: sudo fdisk -l
[05:36] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, you need to read some more
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, You have to knock out variables not guess.
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> that command is a good idea
[05:36] <wheatthin> he said gparted can see the disk
[05:36] <wheatthin> that means fdisk can too
[05:36] <mumpitze1> wheatthin: I didn't ask about any disk...
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, If the ubuntu is the problem a live cd would mount the HD.
[05:37] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I ran the command, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it
[05:37] <mumpitze1> !paste | Hyperiant
[05:37] <wheatthin> mumpitze1, I didn't say you did.. did I?
[05:38] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803742/
[05:38] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: so you want to access your 2000GB windows partition under ubuntu?
[05:39] <whyrusleeping> can anyone help me with chsh?
[05:39] <wheatthin> mkdir /media/<username>/<mountpoint>
[05:39] <ehhh> do macro buttons work in ubuntu or do you need specific software?
[05:39] <wheatthin> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/<username>/<mountpoint>
[05:39] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: ask your real question
[05:40] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I want to be able to boot with it through grub so I don't have to access the boot menu every time; being able to explore the drive and use it would be nice too though
[05:40] <BoomerBile> ehhh, what DE?
[05:40] <somsip> whyrusleeping: explain more about what you are trying to do.
[05:41] <ehhh> boomerBile: xfce, xubuntu
[05:41] <BoomerBile> not sure if xfce has macros
[05:41] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: are you using (U)EFI for booting or normal BIOS?
[05:41] <whyrusleeping> when i type chsh, it says you may not change the shell
[05:41] <BoomerBile> kde does
[05:41] <somsip> ehhh: fire up xev and see if they are picked up when you press them?
[05:41] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: "The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0); The file system wasn't safely closed on WIndows."
[05:42] <whyrusleeping> what am i doing wrong?
[05:42] <somsip> whyrusleeping: what shell are you in when you type chsh? Is chsh listed in /etc/shells? Is it installed?
[05:42] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I have no idea, I just mash F11 and then select the drive manually
[05:42] <ehhh> somsip: good idea
[05:42] <BoomerBile> somsip, err, that won't help ehhh
[05:42] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, you need to run chckdisk in windows under windows
[05:42] <whyrusleeping> fish shell, and its in /etc/shells
[05:42] <somsip> BoomerBile: ehhh thought otherwise. But hey...
[05:42] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I just finished a 6 hour chkdsk /f /r
[05:42] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, not with using windows you didn't
[05:42] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: then next time shut down windows cleanly
[05:43] <BoomerBile> how is checking if xev can see his keys going to help him program macros?
[05:43] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I did it with Windows
[05:43] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I used start -> shut down
[05:43] <ehhh> somsip: some of them seem to work
[05:43] <somsip> BoomerBile: to see if he needs to install something to recognise the hardware differently first. Like a module or other driver
[05:43] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, then it sounds to me like your disk is failing.
[05:43] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: what will sudo os-prober;sudo update grub  spit out?
[05:43] <BoomerBile> he's typing
[05:43] <BoomerBile> he's got keys
[05:43] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: wouldn't chkdisk reveal some sort of error then?
[05:44] <wheatthin> if it's still complaining about not being cleanly unmounted, and won't mount even afterwards, then some times no.
[05:44] <somsip> BoomerBile: how about we let ehhh direct his own query? If you can help him out, great. If I can, great. It's not a contest
[05:44] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: and chkdsk is NOT a test if the hardware is working at all. if you needed 6 hours for a chkdsk run, the disk is probably broken. run a long SMART test with smartctl on the drive. check current values with smartctl -a first and note them down
[05:44] <BoomerBile> i'll let you ubuntu dweebs deal it out, back to gentoo
[05:45] <wheatthin> bye
[05:45] <wheatthin> no need for you in here anywho
[05:45] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: it found linux images and memtest images, wouldn't let me pastebin because it was empty
[05:46] <somsip> ehhh: but not all? What hardware is this then?
[05:47] <ehhh> somsip: just some old keyboard not even usb, i'm planning ahead and i found a page right now that goes through the process of assigning commands to keys
[05:47] <somsip> whyrusleeping: and is chsh in /etc/shells? Is it installed? Read it *carefully*
[05:47] <somsip> ehhh: k
[05:47] <mumpitze1> somsip: chsh is never in /etc/shells. no point
[05:48] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: chkdsk /f runs a thorough check on the data integrity, including an extremely long (apparently 5 hour long) process which verifies every 'empty' part of a 2TB drive...it doesn't seem out of the question for it to take long :/
[05:48] <somsip> mumpitze1: this is what I'm getting at... I don't know if this affect the usage of it though
[05:48] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: no it does not. it checks a filesystem. it does NOT check hardware
[05:48] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, no, it checks every linux file partiton
[05:48] <wheatthin> filesystem*
[05:48] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I never mentioned the hardware, I just said it takes a while ><
[05:48] <ehhh> lol the answer is apparently staring me right in the face on the keyboard settings rofl
[05:49] <whyrusleeping> somsip: chsh isnt in /etc/shells.. but its never had to be before?
[05:49] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: it does not check empty space. it does not take 6 hours. reading every single sector on that disk will take approx 2 hours. if it takes longer, some sectors are usually not readable which increases time a lot
[05:49] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: what is the commandline you are typing?
[05:49] <whyrusleeping> chsh
[05:50] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: unreadable sectors would report as errors, yes?  nevertheless, I'll be glad to run more lengthy tests as I'm heading to bed soon, just point me in the right direction
[05:50] <somsip> whyrusleeping: so what are trying to chsh to?
[05:50] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: no they won't in chkdsk
[05:50] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, we did. You just aren't listening
[05:50] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: I already did point you to SMART tests. under ubuntu you use smartctl
[05:51] <whyrusleeping> somsip: chsh normally asks which shell you want to change if you dont give arguments
[05:51] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: you said to write down the settings using smartctl; I didn't know I was supposed to use that to run the actual test ><
[05:51] <whyrusleeping> but it does the same thing if i do 'chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish'
[05:51] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: and I also told you to run it with -a first and save that output to see what has changed after you run a long SMART test
[05:51] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: how would I go about running a long SMART test?
[05:51] <mumpitze1> -t long
[05:51] <somsip> whyrusleeping: no idea. I thought I could help, but not. Good luck
[05:51] <mumpitze1> and run it on the right disk
[05:52] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: i don't know why you get this error, but what if you run sudo chsh <username> ?
[05:52] <whyrusleeping> somsip: :/ thanks though.
[05:52] <whyrusleeping> mumpitze1: same deal
[05:52] <Hyperiant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803762/  Am I supposed to add /dev/sdb1 or some other thing I'm not aware of?
[05:53] <somsip> whyrusleeping: one last one - are you essentially trying to chsh fish ?
[05:53] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: you need to give a disk devicename as parameter, sdb1 is a partition
[05:53] <wheatthin> yup.. which is what he meant by specifying your disk you want to check
[05:53] <whyrusleeping> yeah
[05:53] <Ponch0> Hi, I'm using ubuntu-gnome 13.04... how can I change the look to something like this?? ...... http://www.webupd8.org/search?updated-max=2013-05-08T14:24:00%2B03:00&max-results=10&start=40&by-date=false
[05:53] <somsip> whyrusleeping: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16184046/unable-to-change-shell-from-bash-to-fish
[05:53] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: the path to /fish is in your /etc/shells?
[05:53] <whyrusleeping> mumpitze1: yes
[05:53] <somsip> whyrusleeping: once I realised chsh was not a shell you were trying to change to, and fish was the shell you wanted to change to, first result on google
[05:54] <ehhh> ok so figuring out the commands is a bit worse, i wanna try to make it launch the home folder first
[05:54] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803766/  Should I enable SMART?
[05:54] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, read the last line
[05:55] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: Yes, it tells me how to enable it; should I do that?
[05:55] <wheatthin> umm yeah
[05:55] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: read the links. they are there for a reason. don't paste stuff mindlessly, read and think before you do
[05:55] <Hyperiant> that's all I was asking :/
[05:55] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: when was this 2TB drive bought?
[05:55] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: not sure, it was cannibalized from an external HDD
[05:55] <ehhh> ok actually it was really easy
[05:56] <mumpitze1> when was the hdd bought?
[05:56] <whyrusleeping> somsip: that did it!
[05:56] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: probably within a year or two, I'm not sure
[05:56] <whyrusleeping> weird though, because on my other machine chsh worked perfectly...
[05:56] <somsip> whyrusleeping: got therein the end :)
[05:57] <mumpitze1> well: read the links
[05:57] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: you keep saying that but it's worded in a way that I'm finding difficult to understand; you realize I come in this chat because I don't know what to Google and I'm a newbie Ubuntu user
[05:58] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, ask google "howto update grub + dualboot + ubuntu"
[05:58] <whyrusleeping> somsip: Danke!!
[05:58] <MonkeyDust> !google | wheatthin
[05:59] <wheatthin> he said he didn't know how to search it, learn to read
[06:00] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: my entire point was that I'm in here because you know more than I what I should be doing; I look here for guidance to a solution, not guidance to lengthy man pages of programs I've never heard of
[06:00] <babin> Static IP configured in Ubuntu server 12.04 and its pinging to 192.168.1.1 soon as soon while i press entire
[06:00] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, we've tried giving you a solution, and you failed to take it
[06:00] <babin> but cant ping google.com imediatley latency is there more than 10 seconds
[06:00] <babin> how can i fix it
[06:00] <mumpitze1> babin: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[06:01] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, I told you how to mount your ntfs drive.. even explained it
[06:01] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I'm having a problem understanding it; I need to be walked through it.  I've run the commands I've been asked to
[06:01] <babin> not yet check wait let me
[06:01] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: mind repeating it?  as I recall, I ran your command but it spat out errors
[06:01] <wheatthin> scroll up
[06:01] <wheatthin> I've said it as plain as day
[06:01] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: if you want someone to solve your problem for you, then I suggest you hire commercial support. irc is more of a help to help yourself kind of thing
[06:01] <Hyperiant> ouch
[06:02] <mumpitze1> not a "free sysadmin" place
[06:02] <Hyperiant> how far up even is it, wheatthin?  it's been drowned in text
[06:03] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: /lastlog wheatthin
[06:03] <babin> ya its pining file to 8.8.8.8
[06:03] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: freenode's webchat says unknown command
[06:03] <mumpitze1> babin: DNS server problems then
[06:03] <babin> oh how can i assign it in Resolv.conf
 mkdir /media/<username>/<mountpoint>     <wheatthin> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/<username>/<mountpoint>
[06:04] <babin> alreay i have setted nameserver 192.168.1.1 nameserver 218.248.255.147
[06:04] <somsip> wheatthin: (coming in late) it is in fstab is it? No sudo on the mount...
[06:04] <wheatthin> the <> brackets is for you to replace with your username and desired mountpoints
[06:05] <mumpitze1> babin: what is your default gateway?
[06:05] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: THAT'S the error I missed; that first command you gave me seemed to be aimed at someone else, I only saw the latter and it didn't work
[06:05] <babin> 192.168.1.1 is gateway
[06:05] <Hyperiant> of course now it mounts.  thank you very much.
[06:05] <wheatthin> my bad, you should use sudo when using mount
[06:05] <babin> wait let me give u all info
[06:05] <mnemon> babin: try using 8.8.8.8 as nameserver (google public one)
[06:05] <babin> ohh sure
[06:06] <wheatthin> !fstab Hyperiant
[06:06] <mumpitze1> babin: the 2nd nameserver doesn't seem to be a nameserver. use 8.8.8.8 (a google nameserver) instead. and maybe don't use your default gateway either or put it at 2nd place
[06:06] <wheatthin> !fstab | Hyperiant
[06:06] <wheatthin> read the link, and edit fstab with the required entries
[06:06] <wheatthin> you know the fstype is ntfs
[06:07] <babin> sure ill back after checking
[06:07] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: now that it mounted, running sudo os-prober discovered the partition and sudo update-grub found the loader; the drive wasn't faulty as you initially suspected
[06:07] <Hyperiant> rather, as you initially suspected, the drive wasn't faulty
[06:08] <AndresSM> wow xubuntu is so much better than ubuntu/unity crap
[06:08] <AndresSM> on my slow lappy
[06:08] <ehhh> ^
[06:08] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, I initially didn't suspect anything. I said run chckdisk in windows, I also said try mounting it, but you claimed that chkdsk in linux would fix it, and we argued, no it wouldn't
[06:09] <wheatthin> I also said edit your fstab, which this is the 3rd time I've said it at least.. put in your info as the link suggest .. now that it works.. good going, now you've learned something
[06:09] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: well, in spite of myself, you've managed to fix my boot
[06:10] <wheatthin> you're welcome
[06:10] <Hyperiant> thank you
[06:10] <wheatthin> :)
[06:11] <somsip> wheatthin: what a very nice bit of support :-) good one
[06:12] <babinlonston> wow its fixed sir working  fine
[06:13] <wheatthin> i still say googling the question first works best :P.. even to get a slight understanding
[06:13] <wheatthin> or using man
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> wheatthin  what about duckduckgo'ing?
[06:16] <wheatthin> lol MonkeyDust never used it
[06:18] <CHIRROQUERO> QP46VB82YU
[06:22] <blah0ur034u2> quit
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:26] <mikodo> silv3r_m00n, hi there yourself. Quiet nite isn't it
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> when i add a repository like "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner"  , when i upgrade ubuntu to next version, will the repository also move up to next distro name automatically ?
[06:28] <silv3r_m00n> mikodo: you mean everyone is sleeping ?
[06:28] <wheatthin> silv3r_m00n, after re-enabling it from a full upgrade, followed by sudo apt-get update  and sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:28] <silv3r_m00n> wheatthin: yeah those are done usually
[06:29] <wheatthin> silv3r_m00n, but you have to re-enable from software-update.. they'll be there just unchecked
[06:30] <mikodo> wheatthin, I have never upgraded, but wouldn't the repos be for the earler release
[06:32] <wheatthin> mikodo, they'll upgrade if they are needed anymore
[06:32] <mikodo> wheatthin, ? just chance it to the correct releae in /etc/apt/souces.list
[06:32] <silv3r_m00n> what happens if a package is provided by 2 repositories, will both be listed in synaptic ?
[06:33] <wheatthin> once you've chosen to upgrade to another release, then your sources will be upgraded. if they are from a completely different repository, then they'll be disabled and not upgraded and could potentially be removed
[06:34] <mikodo> I am too tired to even spell, sorry goodnight.
[06:34] <wheatthin> night
[06:35] <Gycklarn> Hey guys. I'm wondering if anyone here is aware of a program similar to "Flashpaste", which is only available for Windows?
[06:35] <wheatthin> this isn't windows
[06:35] <Gycklarn> I am quite aware of that.
[06:35] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  and what does it do?
[06:36] <Gycklarn> You create a database with blocks of text, from which you can quickly copy to a document
[06:37] <Gycklarn> I work in tech support and I'm planning on switching to Linux and we have a lot standardized answers. I want to be able to quickly paste those answers into an email.
[06:37] <silv3r_m00n> how to use aptitude or apt-get to list the packages provided by a certain repository ?
[06:37] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  there's Diodon and ClipIt
[06:38] <Gycklarn> MonkeyDust, Thanks, I'll have a look
[06:38] <kelly> Hi , which is better ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 ? I've intel 13.2100 , 10GB ram , 256GB SSD , Intel 3000 HD
[06:38] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  and Klipper
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> kelly, Your choice really 13.04 newest apps, 12.04 5 years support
[06:38] <somsip> Gycklarn: there are various clipboard managers but whether they let you import from a bast document to setup the buffers, you'd have to check
[06:38] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  and Parcellite
[06:38] <somsip> *base
[06:39] <kelly> thanx wilee , Is ubuntu 12.04 more stable than 13.04 ?
[06:39] <MonkeyDust> kelly  it's supported longer
[06:40] <IdleOne> Gycklarn: take a look at http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/copyq-interesting-clipboard-manager.html
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> kelly, I find both stable, generally some will say a long term support is mopre stable 12.04LTS, but I have not found that necessarily true here.
[06:40] <Gycklarn> IdleOne, Ty
[06:41] <iceroot> kelly: yes, 12.04 is more stable because the software in 12.04 is testes for a longer time. the relase is older then a year, 13.04 is just out some month, so there was not that big testing like 12.04 get over the year
[06:41] <iceroot> kelly: but both are stable versions
[06:42] <kelly> thanx , can i ask here about elementary os ?
[06:42] <iceroot> kelly: no
[06:42] <iceroot> kelly: only ubuntu support
[06:42] <kelly> ok
[06:44] <kelly> Is Intel 3000 HD good with unity ?
[06:44] <mumpitze1>  good enough
[06:44] <iceroot> kelly: its running fine, i am using that card here with 13.04
[06:44] <iceroot> kelly: its even fine to play source games on steam
[06:46] <kelly> i don't play games at all , i need a good program for video editing ?
[06:46] <iceroot> kelly:
[06:46] <iceroot> kelly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193194/what-is-the-best-video-editor-on-ubuntu-for-editing-multi-format-multi-eco
[06:48] <kelly> thank you for the quick response :)
[06:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. I've been getting into manually networking in ubuntu, problem is, I have to leave the terminal open after running dhclient, even if I do it with & at the end. is there a way to really background it?
[06:49] <kelly> What would be the best partitioning set up for a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 with SSD ?
[06:49] <iceroot> kelly: use the one ubuntu will suggest
[06:49] <iceroot> kelly: there is no "best" partition layout for an ssd (or a normal hdd)
[06:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: no such thing as best, but I personally do a 16gb root, as much swap as i feel needed, and the rest for /home
[06:50] <iceroot> kelly: its all depending on your needs, if you dont know you needs, use the ubuntu default layout
[06:50] <kelly> someone told me to putting swap, and maybe /var and /tmp on the harddisk. is it good
[06:50] <kelly> I've 256GB SSD + 500GB HDD + 250GB HDD
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777>  /var and /tmp are by default on disc
[06:51] <wheatthin> using ssd, depending on it's speed would usually be for swap, or at least a portion of it
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: and /boot :P
[06:51] <wheatthin> ehh, files on boot aren't used often unless rebooting
[06:51] <wheatthin> and they are quite small as it is
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, but hey, boot speed is a good thing :P
[06:52] <wheatthin> should have good boot speed either way right?
[06:52] <wheatthin> :)
[06:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> true, this is *buntu we're talking about, not windows :P
[06:52] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, most of the files used for booting and loading services aren't located on /boot
[06:52] <wheatthin> the descriptors are
[06:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ... perhaps I've misread something, then...
[06:53] <kelly> yesterday i tried one of the heaviest disto and the boot time is 8 sec , i think ubuntu will be more faster :)
[06:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: which distro?
[06:53] <kelly> opensuse
[06:53] <kelly> kde desktop
[06:54] <somsip_> wheatthin: other way rount isn't it? I have symlinks in / that point to .img files in /boot ...
[06:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> I like xfce myself :P
[06:54] <wheatthin> somsip, no.. all that's booted is the location of the devices.. services and such load straight from /root
[06:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> I used to be a gnome fanboi, but after the switch to unity I decided to try and find a new alternative. xubuntu rubbed me just the right way :P
[06:55] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, have you tried gnome-shell? aka gnome 3?
[06:55] <somsip_> wheatthin: I understand that services load through whatever stands in for inittab nowadays, but perhaps assumed you meant kernel files don't live in /boot, which doesn't seem to be what you're saying. Fair enough
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: yeah, and I did not care too much for it at first glance :P. I've tried gnome-shell and gnome-panel in precise
[06:56] <kelly> I've another computer on the network with windows 7 installed on it , How can i sharing files between both of them ?
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: samba, likley
[06:56] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, oh it's great.. not so much overhead from compiz and quite fast
[06:57] <kelly> is there a good guide , i never use samba
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: eh, I don't use compiz for anything :P
[06:57] <wheatthin> !samba | kelly
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: hmm. its not too hard, just gotta get it set up right :P
[06:58] <kelly> hard for me not like you :)
[06:58] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, it just takes a bit of getting used to :)
[06:58] <kelly> thanx ubottu
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: no amount of getting used to will help a crappy machine XD
[06:58] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, that's true
[06:59] <kelly> is there a gui to deal with it ? because i hate commands x-x
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: this isn't so much commands as setting up config files proper
[06:59] <wheatthin> kelly, gotta learn somewhere bro ;).. plus you can mount partitions or share files using nautilus
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: heh, I have my samba shares automounted at boot with /etc/fstab :P
[07:00] <kalaka> commands are awesome, cmon
[07:00] <codeshah> hey guys, using mail from commmand line emails are sent from root@localhost
[07:00] <codeshah> how do I change that?
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ~/Music ~/Video ~/Documents ~/Pictures
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> codeshah: hmm, are you running the command as a root user?
[07:01] <codeshah> yup
[07:01] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, it'll help isolate what he/she wants mounted, but is a quick way to mount them eitherway
[07:01] <codeshah> its just a notifier to us daily with errors from an erro rlog
[07:01] <kelly> i found this one http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/share-files-between-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[07:01] <wheatthin> codeshah, use a different user to launch mail from
[07:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> codeshah: idk, if there is no human interaction I can't help you there :P
[07:02] <codeshah> hmm
[07:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: heh, its all pretty much the same :P
[07:02] <kelly> *_*
[07:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: would you like to see my smb.conf as an example?
[07:04] <kelly> yes plz
[07:04] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, still with the gui should create permanent shares through nautilus :)
[07:04] <wheatthin> easily and painlessly
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> kelly  there's this program Gigolo, try that, first, for samba (windows share)
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803877/
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: wait, from windows to ubuntu or ubuntu to windows?
[07:06] <kelly> i need from ubuntu to windows
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> personally I do ubuntu/ubuntu, I have a crap tower I use as a fileserver and a host for my local mirrors of websites :P
[07:06] <MonkeyDust> !info gigolo
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: heh, gigolo comes with xubuntu, but I never touched it XD
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> I may just uninstall it XD
[07:06] <kelly> thanx MonkeyDust
[07:07] <wheatthin> why not just use something that's already installed?
[07:07] <wheatthin> hmm
[07:07] <wheatthin> gives up
[07:08] <wheatthin> and it uses gvfs :)
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: I think gigolo is more about accessing existing shares, rather than setting them up. plus I like doing things "the hard way" XD
[07:08] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, using nautilus will allow both :)
[07:08] <kelly> ntzrmtthihu777: also if u can show me the way from windows to ubuntu , I would be grateful to you
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: xubuntu uses thunar, not nautilus :P
[07:09] <MonkeyDust> kelly  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[07:09] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, thunar should also have the capability, but I haven't used it in a while to truly say
[07:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: lets see, I think once you set up your samba on the ubuntu machine, you will need to go to network places or sommat on the windows machine :P
[07:09] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, he can use map network drive incase it doesn't show up right away
[07:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: yeah, but I find that when you do it yourself the nitty gritty way you get the exact results you want, whereas gui stuff can get funky at times :P
[07:10] <wheatthin> nah
[07:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> dontcha nah me, lol. trying to use network manager to share internet to my samba server over ethernet was kicking my tuchus, fired up good ol' tilda and got to typing, works fine now :P
[07:13] <kelly> I really appreciate the  help , Thank you all
[07:13] <wheatthin> you're welcome
[07:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, I'ma call it a nite, later all :P
[07:14] <wheatthin> g'nite
[07:14] <vlad24bit> later bro
[07:17] <foofoobar> Hi. I push a lot via git remote over ssh (key auth). Now every time I try to push, I have to pass my passphrase
[07:17] <foofoobar> Is it possible to "remember" this passphrase until I log out?
[07:18] <kalaka> I have a question better suited for the #ubuntu-app-devel channel, but nobody's answering me there :(
[07:18] <yaakov|ubuntu> !phone
[07:18] <yaakov|ubuntu> #ubuntu-touch
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, For what it's worth the IRC is busiest daytime US.
[07:20] <wheatthin> only the die hards are up late :P
[07:20] <vlad24bit> party ardy
[07:20] <kalaka> well, I just thought I might try here see if I get lucky, wilee-nilee
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, This is ubuntu support you can try. ;)
[07:20] <kalaka> I'm trying to build a .deb package from a source that compiles with qt4
[07:23] <kalaka> so... I guess nobody has any ideas? :)
[07:23] <vlad24bit> we'd have to know the problem first
[07:23] <wheatthin> by using dpkg-buildpackage
[07:24] <kalaka> well the problem is, because it builds using qt4, there's no Makefile and I haven't figured out a way to know the dependencies
[07:24] <absolootly> nice
[07:34] <kalaka> dpkg-depcheck -d ./configure obviously doesn't work (there's no configure)
[07:34] <kelly> guys How to create a bootable USB stick in windows ?
[07:34] <nitz88> @kelly install universal usb installer
[07:34] <kelly> this one http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[07:34] <nitz88> @kelly yes
[07:34] <kelly> thanx nitz88
[07:34] <nitz88> @kelly welcome
[07:34] <wheatthin> no clue then
[07:34] <wheatthin> umm
[07:34] <wheatthin> I see cmake suggestions
[07:34] <wheatthin> kalaka,
[07:34] <wheatthin> http://qt-project.org/quarterly/view/using_cmake_to_build_qt_projects
[07:34] <wheatthin> ^
[07:34] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:34] <wheatthin> wubi
[07:34] <cristian_c> I've got an asus wl-330ge device
[07:34] <cristian_c> How can I disable wan in repeater mode with ubuntu?
[07:34] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:34] <wheatthin> holy lag batman
[07:35] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:36] <cristian_c> I repeat my question because there has been a netsplit
[07:36] <cristian_c> I've got an asus wl-330ge device
[07:36] <cristian_c> How can I disable wan in repeater mode with ubuntu?
[07:36] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:37] <wheatthin> cristian_c, so is this a wifi device that's in repeater mode?
[07:37] <wheatthin> hmm
[07:38] <wheatthin> cristian_c, so is this a wifi device that's in repeater mode?
[07:39] <cristian_c> wheatthin, it's a gateway/ap/adapter/repeater/hotspot device
[07:39] <cristian_c> wheatthin, many functions
[07:39] <vlad24bit> gnome record is broken in raring what should i use
[07:40] <wheatthin> vlad24bit, what is gnome-record?
[07:40] <vlad24bit> a sound recorder
[07:41] <vlad24bit> gnome sound recorder
[07:41] <cristian_c> wheatthin, any ideas?
[07:41] <wheatthin> qarecord
[07:41] <vlad24bit> tried it also broke
[07:41] <vlad24bit> any other ideas
[07:42] <wheatthin> vlad24bit, what's broken about it?
[07:42] <Javenn> hi experts, may I know is ubuntu server have L2TP client plugin?
[07:42] <wheatthin> cristian_c, have you tried disabling it?
[07:42] <cristian_c> wheatthin, I don't know how to do
[07:42] <cristian_c> *it
[07:42] <wheatthin> vlad24bit, qarecord works fine
[07:43] <vlad24bit> i can't get the capture button to click on it just errors
[07:45] <somsip_> cristian_c: this is ubuntu support not ASUS support. Maybe the manula for the repeater will have something in it http://www.asus.com/Networking/WL330gE/
[07:45] <richat> !info gyachi
[07:45] <cristian_c> somsip_, but I'd like to do this generally on these type of devices
[07:46] <somsip_> cristian_c: still nothing to do with ubuntu.
[07:46] <cristian_c> somsip_, I don't understand
[07:46] <cristian_c> :(
[07:47] <somsip_> cristian_c: ok
[07:48] <cristian_c> ?
[07:49] <ehhh> what does ssl encryption do?
[07:49] <cristian_c> wheatthin, any ideas?
[07:49] <wheatthin> cristian_c, which release are you using?
[07:50] <cristian_c> wheatthin, 12.04
[07:50] <somsip_> ehhh: maybe this will help http://www.digicert.com/ssl.htm
[07:50] <wheatthin> go up to the top to network settings, and click on disable
[07:50] <somsip_> ehhh: http://is.gd/eoZMtx
[07:50] <wheatthin> on that networking device
[07:50] <cristian_c> wheattin, I'm trying to find a method to do this on this distro
[07:51] <cristian_c> wheattin, ok, but exactly what option have I to set?
[07:51] <DuPe> cristian_c: it has nothing to do with your distro, it's a router device. you log into the router device and change settings. you can do it with a pc/mac/android/anything with webbrwoser
[07:51] <wheatthin> off
[07:51] <DuPe> so.... yeah.
[07:51] <wheatthin> DuPe, ahh I thought it was just a networking card or something of the like
[07:52] <somsip_> wheatthin: nah - pocket wifi hotspot thingy
[07:52] <wheatthin> ahh
[07:52] <DuPe> nah i recognize the model, it's a wifi thingiemabob
[07:52] <DuPe> i used one, once
[07:53] <cristian_c> DuPe, I've read the manual, but I've not found info how to disable it. Should I ask to asus?
[07:54] <cristian_c> I thought I had to set it from OS
[07:54] <ehhh> somsip_: thanks, so basically it encrypts the data sent between users to the websites? does it make you anonymous when you're on an ssl encrypted site or will site data still be transmitted/logged like normal?
[07:54] <somsip_> ehhh: I believe only the data is encrypted. Your IP will still be shown in the packets. Those sites will tell you more than i ever can
[07:55] <wheatthin> cristian_c, you might need to use web browser, login to whatever is the default gateway address using whatever credentials you used to set it up with
[07:55] <DuPe> cristian_c: a better question is, what mode are you wanting?  it has several modes.  you don't so much disable repeater mode as you enable a different mode
[07:55] <cristian_c> DuPe, repeater  mode
[07:55] <DuPe> oh you're wanting repeater
[07:55] <cristian_c> DuPe, i've to assign the device ip in the router in dhcp mode
[07:55] <ehhh> somsip_: i'll give them a thorough read to reach an understanding
[07:56] <cristian_c> DuPe, I always used it with static ip
[07:57] <cristian_c> DuPe, I was told to disable wan and to set it in client brdge mode
[07:57] <cristian_c> so, I could assign the ip correctly in the router/modem
[07:57] <DuPe> cristian_c: well you need to log into the device with the new ip. if you dont have the ip, you need to look at your existing router and see if it shows you dhcp leases, or you portscan your home network until you find it. once you find it, you log into the ip.  then there's a section where it searches for your existing wireless networks, finds it, and you enter the password info
[07:57] <cristian_c> I can't assign the ip of the device
[07:57] <tokhi> Anyone has experience with squid and Dansguardian?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157369
[07:58] <devslash> i have ubuntu set up to dual boot with os x on a macbook. if i delete os x is there a way to merge that free space with ubuntu without losing data ?
[07:59] <cristian_c> wheatthin, I've looked at router web interface either device web interface
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> devslash, You don't merge you would expand the partition into that unallocated space
[07:59] <wheatthin> cristian_c, is there a reset pin hole in the device?
[07:59] <devslash> err yea thats what i mean. ok
[08:00] <devslash> would you expand it using fdisk or another tool ?
[08:00] <cristian_c> wheatthin, yeah, it reset to gateway mode
[08:00] <cristian_c> *resets
[08:00] <DuPe> cristian_c: you can use it with a dhcp ip, but either way you need to log into it. you need to know it's ip. if you dont know the ip, nobody can help you.
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> devslash, I'm not up of apple but it would be from a live cd using gparted generally
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> s/of/on
[08:01] <wheatthin> devslash, you have to use the livecd to disable journaling first I believe
[08:01] <cristian_c> DuPe, it has got a specific ip, 192.168.1.220
[08:01] <devslash> oh ok
[08:01] <cristian_c> set by device producer
[08:02] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/222172/gparted-is-stuck-on-shrink-file-system-hfs
[08:02] <somsip_> !ot | cristian_c
[08:03] <DuPe> tomorrow is going to be a coffee day.
[08:09] <SuperLag> Ravior: Checkpoint SSL Network Extender. There was a CLI one that worked, but with reccent versions, this customer only supports the web-based connection./
[08:09] <SuperLag> bah
[08:10] <SuperLag> Can you create GPT partition tables from the standard installer?
[08:22] <zatan> hej is anyone using ack here ?
[08:23] <jonasrogert> I have problem connecting to one of my ubuntu machines both http and ssh when i run ssh in verbose i get this output http://pastebin.com/Bmtrn61z what does this mean?
[08:24] <Lynxx> it means time to use windows
[08:25] <jonasrogert> Lynxx, that isnt a solution i only run linux and i've had this problem with that box a few times now and only resolution is a hard restart
[08:26] <TJ-> Any idea where the XCP-XAPI plugins (extauth, etc.) have got to - they seem to be missing from xcp-xapi?
[08:26] <alho> jonasrogert: not sure if I can help much with this issue, but i recognize the pem filetype as a key file, are you authetnicating to ssh via password or key?
[08:27] <alho> jonasrogert: and you said the problem is intermittent? usually works up to a point and then you must hard reset?
[08:28] <jonasrogert> alho, it's a keyfile and it works for upto a few months but sometimes once a week then only solution is hard reset
[08:28] <ehhh> TJ-: there's a "nova-xcp-plugins" available on apt-get
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> jonasrogert: check the ownership of that file
[08:29] <grahamsavage> hi i need to forward port 25 -> 5025 and i'm having trouble getting it to work
[08:29] <jonasrogert> ActionParsnip, it's 400
[08:29] <grahamsavage> when i run sudo ufw enable i get ERROR: problem running ufw-init
[08:29] <jonasrogert> ActionParsnip, or only r on the owner which is me
[08:30] <TJ-> ehhh: Yes, that's for the OpenStack <> XCP integration. xcp-xapi is missing its extauth plugin (amongst several) which causes it to fail PAM authentications
[08:30] <jonasrogert> the strange thing is that both ssh and http goes down
[08:30] <jonasrogert> but i can telnet on 22
[08:30] <jonasrogert> so the connection is up
[08:30] <jonasrogert> but it seems like the daemon has stopped working
[08:32] <alho> jonasrogert, when you say hard reset, do you mean reboot? does a restart of the daemon fix the problem?
[08:33] <argoneus> Hello
[08:33] <argoneus> For some reason, my ubuntu freezes right after the login screen
[08:33] <argoneus> As in, the login screen opens
[08:33] <argoneus> and if I login, it switches to 1024x768 and then freezes
[08:33] <argoneus> And if I switch to any other tty and back, it freezes immediately
[08:33] <argoneus> Is there any place where I could find any relevant logs?
[08:34] <ehhh> TJ-: did you try google yet, i found this but i don't know if it will be of use to you https://github.com/Kakadu/xcp-xapi/blob/master/scripts/plugins/extauth-hook
[08:34] <TJ-> argoneus: ~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/*
[08:34] <jonasrogert> alho, i have to push the off button on the machine, i have a headless machine so i cant restart the deamon.
[08:34] <argoneus> TJ-: thanks, give me a sec
[08:35] <TJ-> ehhh: Yes; I'm working with the package source a.t.m. trying to figure out why/how the plugins aren't being installed to a binary package
[08:36] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Why not run a second instance of the daemon on another port? That way, if your primary connection dies you can get in on the secondary and check logs, etc.,  to discover what is wrong
[08:36] <ehhh> TJ-: i'll admit that's too complicated for me to answer atm, haven't tried compiling in years lol
[08:37] <jonasrogert> TJ-, that could acctually work, butt i'll have to wait till it happens again, it could take a month... Really enoying issue.
[08:38] <TJ-> ehhh: I thought that XCP would be straighforward given Canonical's shouting about cloud - so far I've spent 3 days fixing amateur project Kronos packaging bugs!
[08:38] <alho> jonasrogert, sorry man, I wouldn't know, never ran into this. I ran ssh -v on my machine to see how far it gets, looks like your session dies pretty early on, way before any key exchange occurs
[08:38] <linuxmania> hi
[08:38] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Well, I'd be looking hard at the logs after its restarted to see if there are any clues
[08:39] <alho> jonasrogert, and just sanitfy check, openssh is up to date on your machine?
[08:39] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Is the server resource-limited (memory, etc.) ?
[08:39] <linuxmania> guys can I install cinnamon On ubuntu Studio
[08:39] <linuxmania> ??
[08:39] <ikonia> linuxmania: there is an unofficial package for it
[08:40] <roger21> is removing a module from /modprobe.d/thatfile.conf will make it load when needed or do i need to add it in another file ?
[08:40] <ikonia> roger21: no, they are config files, that is not the blacklist
[08:40] <TJ-> jonasrogert: If you do run a 2nd instance see the later posts in this forum thread for a good how-to. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1497376
[08:40] <roger21> sory, what?
[08:40] <linuxmania> Any effects on ubuntu with That unofficial package
[08:41] <linuxmania> ??
[08:41] <ikonia> linuxmania: it will do exactly what it says - install cinnemon
[08:41] <linuxmania> okay thank you
[08:42] <roger21> can you list the content of modprobe.d/ and tell me they are not blacklist?
[08:42] <ikonia> roger21: what ?
[08:42] <roger21> can you list the content of modprobe.d/ and tell me they are not blacklist?
[08:42] <TJ-> roger21: If the hardware device is detected and no /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* entry stops it, the appropriate kernel module will be loaded. If the device isn't detected (not plug-n-pray) then you might need to add it to /etc/modules
[08:42] <jonasrogert> alho, its pretty upto date the machine runs the last LTS.
[08:42] <ikonia> roger21: what you are asking doesn't make sense
[08:42] <roger21> ok, that is clearer
[08:42] <roger21> TJ
[08:43] <roger21> so i actually have to try it
[08:43] <roger21> let's try it..
[08:44] <jonasrogert> TJ-,  if you mean have small amount of resources? i wouldnt say so it's not the biggest machine but it runs with 2 gb ram and dual-core cpu dont know how fast but it's enough for my needs.
[08:44] <TJ-> roger21: e.g., on some machines I have to add "acpiphp" for ACPI PCI Hot-plug support to '/etc/modules' to enable hot-plug of devices via the ExpressCard interface
[08:44] <jonasrogert> TJ-, i will look at your link, thanks
[08:44] <TJ-> jonasrogert: That sounds OK then - I was wondering if it was a VM with, say, less than 400MB RAM.
[08:44] <jonasrogert> alho, TJ-, Thanks for the help i guess i have to look a lot closer at the logs
[08:44] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Logs first; IRC last :p
[08:45] <alho> jonasrogert: good luck!
[08:45] <jonasrogert> TJ-, I have read those pretty closly but ill look again :)! i have a VM running fine with 600mb ram never had this issue?
[08:46] <jonasrogert> TJ-, is it common with that small amount of memory?
[08:46] <TJ-> jonasrogert: I know, it can be down to some apparently trivial config change. I was thinking along the lines of a resource leak that eventually left the sshd process unable to proceed. That would infer hanging connections that never properly closed down though
[08:47] <jonasrogert> TJ-, would that also make the httpd server not responding?
[08:47] <TJ-> jonasrogert: No it isn't, but what you describe does sound like a 'running out of some resource' issue - I'm also wondering about some of the 'limits' for file/socket handles
[08:48] <TJ-> jonasrogert: It would make sense, yes, that more than one service is affected, especially if they need to allocate (substantial) new resources for a connection
[08:48] <jonasrogert> TJ-, i will look for those things in the logs. Thanks a bunch!
[08:50] <doug_> hey ppl
[08:50] <doug_> can anyone see this im trying out irssi termial chat client
[08:50] <TJ-> doug_: yes
[08:50] <DJones> doug_: Yes we can see you
[08:50] <doug_> thankx alot guys
[08:51] <Shogoot> Im trying to get this issue solved. Anyone care to take a look? http://serverfault.com/questions/518947/cloned-centos-6-4-websrver-for-test-purpose-virtual-host-htaccess-redirectin
[08:52] <ikonia> Shogoot: please summerise your issue
[08:55] <hacktus0> I have problem with crontab : I did crontab -e and I wrote with nano : */1 * * * * DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK" . but it don't work !!! do you help me plz ?
[08:56] <hacktus0> I have problem with crontab : I did crontab -e and I wrote with nano : */1 * * * * DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK" . but it don't work !!! do you help me plz ?
[08:56] <ikonia> hacktus0: that's never going to work
[08:57] <hacktus0> NO beacose when I do echo */1 * * * * hello>>test.txt it's work
[08:57] <hacktus0> NO beacose when I do echo */1 * * * * hello>>test.txt it's work ,ikonia
[08:58] <ikonia> hacktus0: you don't have to say everything twice
[08:58] <Shogoot> ikonia, its not a very easy issue to summarise :) better if you read the post if your intrested in trying to help me out.
[08:58] <ikonia> hacktus0: and echo'ing a file to a text file is different than setting up an X display enviornment
[08:58] <ikonia> Shogoot: is this anything to do with ubuntu as I see you asking in #centos #httpd #ubuntu-server and many other channels
[08:59] <ehhh> what's the easiest way to update the flash plugin for firefox
[08:59] <ikonia> ehhh: flash has been discontinued on linux
[08:59] <hacktus0> Ok but how can I do for authorize X.
[08:59] <Shogoot> yes, but its not many other, but those your pointing out.
[08:59] <ikonia> Shogoot: what ?
[09:00] <ikonia> Shogoot: is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[09:00] <ehhh> ikonia: no wonder it's outdated, why it's marked as outdated though i don't get then
[09:01] <hacktus0> Ok but how can I do for authorize X. ikonia
[09:01] <ikonia> hacktus0: it's not that simple
[09:01] <hacktus0> it 's on terminal ?
[09:01] <Shogoot> Not diretly, no, but this channels people has more expertise then just ubuntu. I figured ill give it a shot. :)
[09:02] <ikonia> Shogoot: please don't ask in here then as reading it, it's nothing to do with ubuntu at all, or even centos which you're running, its an apache question
[09:03] <hacktus0> ikonia can you help me with X ? please
[09:03] <ikonia> hacktus0: no,
[09:04] <EnglishQQ> !offtopic
[09:08] <harlequin516> Anyone know how I can display xclock from a remote kubuntu on my home kubuntu?  I have tried all the google search recommends, but I cannot figure it out.  I am using ssh -Y would like some more basic steps to debug this.
[09:08] <Vill> Hi, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, why System Monitor shows in network history that my computer is uploading a lot of data taking all bandwith, and uploaded already 200MB, despite me opening just the Terminal Window?
[09:09] <harlequin516> Anybody use remote X clients?
[09:09] <Vill> oh, That's probably why, remote Desktop
[09:10] <TJ-> hacktus0: It works for me with */1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK"      ... testing now without "export"
[09:11] <TJ-> hacktus0: Confirmed. You *need* "export DISPLAY=:0"
[09:11] <hacktus0> I test for moment : TJ-
[09:12] <harlequin516> DISPLAY=192.168.1.111:0
[09:12] <ehhh> is it possible to timeline backup xubuntu like for example mac does with an external? just wondering
[09:13] <hacktus0> it's dont work with and without export
[09:13] <harlequin516> Why does DISPLAY=192.168.1.111:0 work the same as DISPLAY=192.168.1.2:0 for my remote xclock?  Is it not using hte ip number?
[09:13] <harlequin516> I am using export
[09:14] <harlequin516> For some reason any IP number I use on the same subnet allows my X Server to recieve xclocks display.
[09:14] <TJ-> harlequin516: You mean like: ssh -X jeeves WINEPREFIX=/home/all/Library/Downloads/Windows/wine-windows7 winecfg   ?
[09:14] <harlequin516> What's going on?
[09:15] <harlequin516> NO I am not even using ssh .
[09:15] <harlequin516> Just from my local machine.
[09:15] <histo> harlequin516: what's wrong with ssh -X ?
[09:15] <hacktus0> it's dont work with and without export TJ-
[09:16] <TJ-> hacktus0: There is something wrong with your syntax then, are there other entries in the user's crontab that might be causing an error?
[09:16] <harlequin516> From my KDE Desktop in a terminal.  I run xclock.  Works fine step 2 export DISPLAY to correct IP number.  works fine step 3 export DISPLAY=badIPnumber  still works fine.  But it SHOULD nNOT.
[09:17] <harlequin516> I don' ttunderstand what is happening.
[09:17] <histo> harlequin516: what is the full command you are using?
[09:18] <hacktus0> TJ- when I do crontab -l then it's write
[09:18] <hacktus0> more comment #jvndlfvndqsvmvcsfmdvjvsosidjv
[09:18] <hacktus0> more comment #jvndlfvndqsvmvcsfmdvjvsosidjv TJ-
[09:18] <harlequin516> export DISPLAY=192.168.1.110; xclock;
[09:19] <harlequin516> export DISPLAY=192.168.1.110:0; xclock;
[09:19] <hacktus0> and after in down of this text i write */1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK"
[09:19] <hacktus0> and after in down of this text i write */1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK" TJ-
[09:19] <harlequin516> where 110 is not the desktop's correct IP number.  but xclock still displays.
[09:20] <histo> harlequin516: are you sure it's getting exported?
[09:21] <harlequin516> yep set |grep DISPL shows what I set.
[09:21] <harlequin516> Is there some way that xclock is not using my DISPLAY for any reason?
[09:22] <histo> harlequin516: echo $DISPLAY
[09:22] <harlequin516> Its liek for some reason on all my systems DISPLAY is nto being read by xclock.
[09:23] <harlequin516> 192.168.1.110:0
[09:23] <harlequin516> Echo gave good reply
[09:23] <histo> harlequin516: try xclock -display 192.168....:)
[09:23] <histo> harlequin516: try xclock -display 192.168....:0
[09:25] <histo> harlequin516: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html#s5
[09:25] <bilgisayarci> hey
[09:26] <ehhh> has anyone tried configuring an apple time machine/capsule to work with ubuntu ? or is it not worth it / the cost is too high compared to better alternatives
[09:26] <harlequin516> `xclock -display 192.168.1.110:0`  works but shoudl not becuase my IP is not 110. `xclock -display 194.168.1.1:0` does not work because it is a different subdomain.  It seems liek no matter what IP I use it works as long as it is in the same subdomain.  Is this normal?
[09:27] <ehhh> i'm only thinking get a good image backup that i can revert to incase something goes wrong
[09:29] <harlequin516> [1;5F
[09:29] <histo> harlequin516: Ask the Xorg guys
[09:30] <histo> !backup | ehhh
[09:30] <Guest5799> quit
[09:32] <savagecroc> when i enable the firewall i can't access any websites
[09:32] <harlequin516> Yeah I shoudl have asked Xorg.  Thanks though.
[09:32] <[diablo]> join #ubuntu-devel
[09:32] <[diablo]> do
[09:32] <savagecroc> i've got Default: allow(outgoing)
[09:37] <TJ-> harlequin516: What happens if you do "xclock -display ${REMOTE_IP}:0 xclock"  ?
[09:38] <harlequin516> It still shows up local.
[09:40] <TJ-> I'd be checking the hosts and NSS and netfilters configuration; sounds like some weird host/ip translation going on
[09:40] <columb> Is there any chat logs of this irc available?
[09:40] <TJ-> Try running tcpdump and sniffing the interfaces
[09:40] <DJones> !logs | columb
[09:44] <columb> histo,  are you there? Seems like after reboot my intel audio card module is not loaded again.
[09:45] <histo> columb: That's odd
[09:45] <ehhh> so basically i can either use cd-roms or what i think i'd prefer, a sturdy usb pendrive? i'm only thinking system backups not media, how much space might i need from a usb?
[09:45] <savagecroc> for a desktop setup would one use ipv6 on a day to day basis?
[09:46] <savagecroc> or can you disable it comfortably?
[09:46] <histo> ehhh: depends on how much data you have to backup
[09:47] <ehhh> histo: this will be a media center pc so i'm only thinking i take a system backup once or once in a while because when i'm done configuring and feel that it's all running stable i won't really need to do much more with it
[09:48] <StaticWIN> I have a dhcp server on my router handing out ipv4 addresses is there a way to configure ubuntu to not only handle ipv6 dhcp but also give devices internet through my ipv6 tunnel while keeping the existing ipv4 network and dhcp server intact and on the router?
[09:48] <histo> ehhh: then just create a complete disk image with clonezilla or something.
[09:48] <histo> ehhh: there are many options
[09:48] <histo> columb: you can sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[09:49] <Walex2> savagecroc: it is not necessary to use IP6 except in Asia, but it does not hurt either.
[09:49] <Guest38404> hi
[09:49] <savagecroc> Walex2: why do they need to use it in asia?
[09:50] <kingbeast> Hi Guest38404
[09:50] <StaticWIN> Walex2, Im a developer working on ipv6 specific software
[09:51] <rohitkav> My system is hanging from few days, I use Ubuntu 12.10
[09:51] <rohitkav> kindly help
[09:51] <columb> histo, how do I set fixed sample ratio in alsa? Nothing happens after sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[09:52] <StaticWIN> rohitkav, did you look at your logs?
[09:52] <ehhh> histo: one thing that just crossed my mind, that computer won't boot from usb properly, say i can't get into the os/gui after upgrade or something then i need to revert back to the backup how would i go on about that with a clonezilla disc image? (i'm asking because i just realised i might HAVE to use cds/dvds to backup even though i don't want to)
[09:53] <Fly80> hello
[09:53] <Fly80> i have a script using the command "autoRegex", but i have no such tool on my system
[09:53] <Fly80> what should I install to use it?
[09:54] <rohitkav> which logs StaticWIN
[09:54] <rohitkav> could you help
[09:54] <ikonia> Fly80: installing the package containing that command would be a start
[09:54] <Ashael> hello
[09:54] <ikonia> Fly80: or getting a new script to do the same thing without it
[09:54] <Fly80> ikonia: i was asking the package
[09:55] <hwang4> \msg hwang4 hhaah
[09:55] <Fly80> i can't find the package
[09:55] <ikonia> Fly80: have you looked ?
[09:55] <Fly80> yes
[09:55] <ikonia> Fly80: where ?
[09:55] <ehhh> histo: i think if i understand correctly with clonezilla you can boot with a livecd, then backup to usb, then boot the livecd again and use the usb from there to recover?
[09:55] <Fly80> apt-cache search autoRegex
[09:55] <rohitkav> I would be using internet on google chrome and and all of sudden system stops works StaticWIN
[09:55] <Fly80> it found nothing
[09:55] <ikonia> Fly80: it looks like a windows based tool
[09:56] <TJ-> StaticWIN: I'd think you'd use either/or/both of ip6tables/ip-route
[09:56] <Fly80> ah
[09:56] <Ashael> can anyone help me with the extremely annoying Broadcom 4313 driver (bcmwl-kernel-common)? my wireless has been dead for a couple of weeks now :/
[09:56] <Izual> hey, on startup I want to run 4 commands but not user dependent, how do I do it?
[09:56] <Fly80> I found it on stackoverflow
[09:56] <ikonia> Fly80: http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=68339&lngWId=1
[09:57] <llutz> Izual: /etc/rc.local might be a place for them
[09:57] <ikonia> Fly80: unless you are looking at a different tool
[09:57] <histo> ehhh: yes
[09:57] <vegetablesalad> Hello. I need to audio/video record my desktop, but only selected window or desktop. I need to record online lecture, and be able to work in meanwhile. Any solutions to this. Thank you for any help.
[09:57] <histo> ehhh: you can create a compressed image of your drive. You could also accomplish this with dd but You really need the partition unmounted or atleast mounted ro while you backup.
[09:57] <Fly80> ikonia: look here please
[09:57] <Fly80> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5411282/cross-compiling-boost-for-windows-on-linux
[09:57] <ikonia> Fly80: no
[09:57] <histo> !screencast | vegetablesalad
[09:58] <ikonia> Fly80: why do you want to cross-compile boost ? you can just compile it nativly
[09:58] <histo> !bcm | Ashael
[09:58] <ehhh> histo: as long as i don't have to boot directly from the usb i should be fine, i haven
[09:58] <Fly80> ikonia: i have to compile it for windows
[09:58] <Fly80> with mingw
[09:58] <ehhh> 't had any problems with any of the usbs inside of ubuntu yet it accepts everything
[09:58] <Ashael> histo: thanks, already been through that three times back and forth :(
[09:58] <Fly80> on my system
[09:59] <vegetablesalad> ubottu - i tried recordmydesktop, but it only records active desktop - it wont allow me to work on other stuff while it records, ill take a look at rest of your list, thank you
[09:59] <histo> Ashael: are you able to use a wired connection to get wireless working?
[09:59] <vegetablesalad> oh that really is a bot ?
[09:59] <vegetablesalad> cool
[09:59] <Ashael> I used to... not anymore.
[09:59] <ikonia> Fly80: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_53_0/more/getting_started/windows.html#get-boost just download it pre-compiled
[09:59] <Ashael> mostly because i have no idea how i did it.
[10:00] <ehhh> histo: another possibility, i'm thinking of getting a bigger hdd (secondary / third) for my computer to store media on, could i just partition a second partition and store backups there`?
[10:00] <Fly80> ikonia: i can compile on linux with windows precompiled?
[10:01] <ikonia> Fly80: no, the link I've given you is boost pre-compiled for windows
[10:01] <DylanCl> Hello. Is it possible to stream games on ubuntu 13.04?
[10:01] <ehhh> histo: so i have like for example 50gb or something dedicated to system backups
[10:01] <ikonia> Fly80: so you don't need to
[10:01] <ikonia> DylanCl: "stream games" ?
[10:01] <DylanCl> To www.twitch.tv
[10:01] <DylanCl> You record your gameplay and it sends it to that site where it will be displayed live
[10:01] <ehhh> or would it be safer with the usb pendrive method?
[10:01] <DJones> vegetablesalad: A suggestion might be to run Ubuntu in a VM with the app and the recording software running in full screen so that you only record the contents of the VM
[10:01] <ikonia> DylanCl: how does it record ?
[10:02] <DylanCl> On windows, people use programs (xsplit, obs), but on ubuntu I heard people use FFMPEG (not sure about that one).
[10:02] <DylanCl> And I've been googling a while now, all the forums say that you need a script
[10:02] <vegetablesalad> Djones - doh, how did I not think of this. I have VM with XP on it. Thank you
[10:02] <ikonia> DylanCl: no idea, but from what you are saying, sounds possible
[10:02] <histo> ehhh: all disks fail so either way as long as you have a backup you are safer
[10:02] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Google is your friend... Found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/54787/record-live-streaming
[10:03] <vegetablesalad> it will take a good chunk of my sys thou
[10:03] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Oops, my bad
[10:03] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: being played from your browser and saves it to your hard-drive....?
[10:03] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: That was for a different kind of streaming
[10:03] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Sorry
[10:03] <DylanCl> heh no problems
[10:04] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Here we go http://www.creativetux.com/2012/11/streaming-to-twitchtv-with-linux.html
[10:04] <ehhh> histo: well i'll call myself lucky since i haven't had anything but a knockoff microsd card fail on me before (files dissapeared) and having some problems on a laptop with the hdd and basically everything else about it lol :P
[10:04] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: I tried that one, but it didn't work for me. :/
[10:05] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: I guess i'll try one more time, maybe it works on 13.04 (I tried on 12.04)
[10:05] <ehhh> so i try to buy as good quality drives as i can even if it costs a bit more . .
[10:05] <Izual> llutz, I put it in the rc.local file but it does not work on boot. However it works if I sudo /etc/rc.local
[10:06] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Tried this one? http://orkultus.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/streaming-to-twitch-tv-in-linux/
[10:06] <ehhh> are there btw anyone here with intelligence on hard drives? the main ones i can get are WD and seagate . . i've got both in the computer i'm using linux in and they've both survived 7+ years so i dunno which one to prefer, though i've read people have problems with basically all hdds at some point there's malfunctions though that can't be avoided :P
[10:06] <vubuntor132> I'm on Live Session,during Partition progress now(Moving file system - 3hrs left),can I suspend for later resume?
[10:07] <savagecroc> ugh
[10:07] <Walex2> ehhh: there is also toshiba
[10:07] <ehhh> Walex2: i don't think i
[10:07] <DylanCl> no i have not
[10:07] <DylanCl> ill try now
[10:07] <savagecroc> every time i reboot my screens go into some crappy low resolution and i have to run some command to manually add the resolution back
[10:07] <histo> ehhh: All hard drives fail
[10:07] <savagecroc> how can i stop this from happening
[10:07] <ehhh> 've  seen any toshiba drives available in my country , are they ssd's or SATA?
[10:08] <Walex2> savagecroc: not so easy, you probably need to create an 'xorg.conf' file with some magic in it
[10:08] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[10:08] <savagecroc> Walex2: it used to work, then i did an apt-get upgrade
[10:08] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Looks like there's a Git repo for some guys maintaining a script as well https://gist.github.com/brodul/3178130
[10:08] <ehhh> histo: so the best thing is basically, switch them out when you *feel* they are about to die out or is there some way to diagnose that (apart from obvious performance failure)?
[10:08] <Walex2> ehhh: toshiba make very nice SSDs and some SATA drives, but mostly SAS and 2.5"
[10:08] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: hang on
[10:08] <DylanCl> I think I found a program to stream
[10:08] <DylanCl> WebcamStudio
[10:09] <Walex2> savagecroc: the way autoconfiguration works changes with release
[10:09] <DylanCl> Oh
[10:09] <DylanCl> nevermind
[10:09] <DylanCl> it just closes after the starting screen
[10:09] <histo> ehhh: http://www.pcworld.com/article/129558/article.html
[10:09] <harlequin516> \quit
[10:09] <harlequin516> \quit
[10:09] <histo> ehhh: smart mon tools can help you check the status of yrou drives
[10:09] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Was gonna say, looks like it's not under development anymore
[10:10] <Walex2> ehhh: a symptom of drives going bad is many reallocated sectors in a short time
[10:10] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: it is
[10:10] <DylanCl> somebody restarted it
[10:10] <TJ-> ehhh: use SMART and smartd to monitor impending failure indicators
[10:10] <DylanCl> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxkZ_wh6t7jbcTFIU3RBVUt1R3c/edit
[10:11] <TJ-> ehhh: Use mirrored (RAID-1) drives, have a hot spare ready to go
[10:11] <DylanCl> ah well
[10:11] <DylanCl> the maker said it was unstable
[10:11] <DylanCl> let me try the script you sent me
[10:11] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: k
[10:14] <ehhh> ok i installed smartmontools from apt-get though i get command not found when i try to run
[10:14] <ehhh> do i need to install a gui?
[10:15] <Vec_> Hi, i'm having an issue with printing. OS: Ubuntu 13.04. CUPS ver: 1.6.2-1ubuntu5. Printer: Canon Pixma MP800. What happens: I print a simple textfile from terminal (lp derp.txt), the printer starts printing letters on the paper and it looks like it should, then halfway through the printer stops printing and just sits there with the paper in its mouth. If i disconnect the printer from electricity
[10:15] <Vec_> and reconnects it then ejects the paper it was holding. The paper has the full document printed on it - so it seems that the printjob gets done but something makes the printer freeze just right after completion.
[10:16] <histo> ehhh: I believe it's smartctl is the cli app
[10:18] <histo> Vec_: have you tried printing a test page with cups?
[10:19] <matte_> hi
[10:19] <Vec_> histo: will do right now
[10:19] <histo> Vec_: I'm wondering if it's just an issue with lp
[10:20] <matte_> i have some problem with synaptic, it can't find the sources somehow and tells me i need a internet connection, but as ya can see i am online
[10:20] <columb> histo, seems like a found a way to fix my second audio card.  It works. So far.
[10:20] <Vec_> histo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1032456 i thought it was this, but it says that the bug was fixed so im not sure
[10:20] <ehhh> histo: searching smartctl gave me gsmartcontrol which is working, amazing how intelligent linux is
[10:20] <histo> matte_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <histo> columb: okay
[10:20] <ehhh> bottom line on it both my ata drives passed :)
[10:20] <histo> columb: that's wierd that the module isn't loading and we checked that it wasn't blacklisted....
[10:21] <Vec_> histo: The test page printed 100% successfully actually o_O
[10:22] <matte_> what's the easiest way to do that?
[10:22] <histo> Vec_: see if you are experiencing the same usb reset.. You should be able to see it in dmesg. YOu can sudo dmesg -c to clear your log first
[10:22] <histo> matte_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit & pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <histo> matte_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <ehhh> do i just need to monitor the overall health self-assessment test to get a general impression or how it's hanging or should i pay attention to the attributes if they start to change as well?
[10:23] <histo> matte_: first one was a typo. The pastebinit application aids in posting multi line texts to pastebin sites.
[10:23] <matte_> ok ty
[10:23] <histo> ehhh: pay attention to failures and values outside of normal ranges
[10:23] <histo> ehhh: I would just setup a backup and not worry about it.
[10:24] <ehhh> histo: yes i think that's the best solution really
[10:24] <matte_> it can't find the sources for the files it needs
[10:24] <Vec_> histo: Ok cleared my log. Should i print the text from terminal which caused trouble like last time, then view the logs?
[10:24] <kingbeast> DylanCl, VLC can do it, I have no clue how to set it up though
[10:24] <Vec_> (please bear with me, started with ubuntu 2 days ago :)
[10:25] <DylanCl> kingbeast: heh, you can only stream music with vlc
[10:25] <kingbeast> DylanCl, you can do your desktop too
[10:25] <DylanCl> let me google
[10:26] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: You can stream video with vlc
[10:26] <matte_> i can login to synaptic just fine but it can't do a su and login to that, isn't both supposed to be root access?
[10:26] <Vec_> histo: Weird. I just succesfully printed derp.txt which was the one who stopped halfway through last time.
[10:26] <DylanCl> Is that the same as streaming a game? :P
[10:26] <ehhh> the secondary atleast looks like it's never had a problem not being mounted properly to the computer much more than the main drive, the numbers looks perfect
[10:26] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: You could probably get it to stream your desktop
[10:26] <DylanCl> No tutorials about it on google
[10:27] <Vec_> histo: Log says "usblp0: removed" "usblp 1-4:1.1: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid 0x170D
[10:27] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625
[10:28] <DylanCl> All nice and good, but how can I stream to twitch.tv with it?
[10:28] <StaticWIN> I have a dhcp server on my router handing out ipv4 addresses is there a way to configure ubuntu to not only handle ipv6 dhcp but also give devices internet through my ipv6 tunnel while keeping the existing ipv4 network and dhcp server intact and on the router?
[10:28] <histo> Vec_: did you clear the log or is that an old message?
[10:28] <Vec_> i cleared the log
[10:28] <Vec_> then lp derp.txt, then read log
[10:28] <histo> matte_: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   then copy and paste the info to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: May be a way of telling vlc to output flv to the rtmp address
[10:29] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Did that other script not work?
[10:29] <Vec_> histo: This baffles my mind tho. After printing the test page i can now print from terminal with lp without fail.
[10:29] <Izual> I am writing some commands in the rc.local script but they don't get executed on startup, any idea?
[10:29] <DylanCl> I did everything the tutorial said
[10:29] <DylanCl> but I don't know how to run it.
[10:29] <DylanCl> I think I'm supposed to do something with chmod
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> histo: why not use pastebinit, saves having to copy and paste :)
[10:29] <histo> Vec_: that's bizarre... who knows
[10:30] <histo> ActionParsnip: because his sources are busted and he can't install anything
[10:30] <Vec_> histo: well thanks lol. Ill try rebooting everything and see if its still golden
[10:30] <StaticWIN> chmod +x? maybe
[10:30] <matte_> here is the link to it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804297/
[10:30] <columb> histo, ok. It does not work. I tried to create .asoundrc file in home directory with http://pastebin.com/Pmb732f6
[10:31] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Oh, well yeah, you need to give the script permission to execute, chmod +x should do it
[10:31] <DylanCl> Didn't work
[10:31] <DylanCl> Btw
[10:31] <histo> matte_: because you are using an End Of Life distro
[10:31] <columb> histo, it's should prevent sound from random speed ups. But it didn't :(
[10:31] <histo> !eol | matte_ Follow these directions to upgrade
[10:31] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Err, how do you mean?
[10:32] <matte_> ok ty
[10:32] <DylanCl> There are a few destinations like, HTTP, RTSP but no RTMP
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> histo: may already have pastebinit installed :P)
[10:32] <histo> columb: What do you mean by random speed ups?
[10:32] <DylanCl> Well, I give it permission to run, but doubleclicking the .sh file just opens the text editor
[10:32] <histo> ActionParsnip: Yeah we tried that already
[10:32] <columb> histo, sometimes sound on my pc starts playing faster that it should. Like twice or so.
[10:33] <histo> columb: I would file a bug with that specific sound driver then.
[10:33] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: If you open a terminal where the script is then do "bash script.sh" should work
[10:33] <columb> Somebody suggested me to force sample rate.
[10:34] <histo> columb: or ask the alsa guys
[10:34] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: twitch-stream.sh: line 11: avconv: command not found
[10:34] <columb> Irc name?
[10:34] <histo> columb: #alsa
[10:35] <argoneus> Hello
[10:35] <argoneus> My laptop tends to freeze often, and always freezes when switching to a tty and back
[10:35] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: you probably need to install ffmpeg "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg"
[10:35] <argoneus> When using vgaswitcheroo with my hybrid ATI/Intel graphics
[10:36] <argoneus> But without it the discrete card is on, which leads to my battery dying quick and the laptop being hot
[10:36] <argoneus> is there a reliable way to -only- use the Intel GPU?
[10:36] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: ah yeah
[10:36] <histo> argoneus: the discrete card should be the Intel
[10:37] <DylanCl> [x11grab @ 0x9545b80] Couldn't parse video size. :0.0: Invalid argument
[10:37] <argoneus> histo: the discrete is the AMD one.. no?
[10:37] <columb> histo, how do I load my unloaded card again?
[10:39] <ss_haze> transcode -J stabilize -i video.mov where does output is stored?
[10:39] <ss_haze> tmp is not answer
[10:39] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: [x11grab @ 0x9545b80] Couldn't parse video size. :0.0: Invalid argument (not sure if you read it when I sent it before)
[10:40] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Yeah i did, just having a look :P
[10:40] <DylanCl> could it be because I have a wrong INRES maybe?
[10:41] <histo> columb: I don't think we did last time. But you could sudo rmmod whatever_module
[10:41] <ss_haze> anybody uses transcode to stabilize videos?
[10:41] <histo> columb: lspci -k   will show you which kernel module is in use for that card.  However, I though we just sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel last time and you switched in gui to the intel card.
[10:42] <histo> argoneus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[10:43] <martinfletcher__> hey all
[10:43] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Not sure... Just found this script though which was put up literally yesterday so might be more up to date http://pastebin.com/0NNHe6ES
[10:43] <histo> argoneus: you are write ... Silly naming they shouldn't call it discrete
[10:43] <martinfletcher__> i am in need of a little help setting up a samba file server
[10:43] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: VI_RES is video in res etc, VO is vid out
[10:44] <martinfletcher__> i need to get the server authenticating samba shares and logins to a 2008 server active directory domain
[10:44] <DylanCl> What is a good res to use?
[10:44] <martinfletcher__> any ideas?
[10:44] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Depends on the res of your monitor :P
[10:44] <DylanCl> 1366x768
[10:45] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Yeah, so try using 1366x768 for VI_RES
[10:45] <histo> !ad | martinfletcher__
[10:45] <histo> martinfletcher__: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Active_Directory
[10:45] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Leave the rest for now, remember to have the file in your home directory with your twitch key in it
[10:46] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804327/
[10:48] <martinfletcher__> i am setting it up on debian 7, hoping that anyone here might be able to help
[10:49] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Hmm, that damn error... Not sure tbh, will Google
[10:49] <histo> martinfletcher__: why don't you ask in #debian
[10:49] <martinfletcher__> i have, but there seems to be little help
[10:49] <histo> martinfletcher__: well this is ubuntu support. You are offtopic. You can also try in #samba
[10:50] <histo> !alis | martinfletcher__
[10:50] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Just tried running the script on my system and hit "[x11grab @ 0x16fcf40] Couldn't parse video size. :0.0: Invalid argument" error, but didn't get any of the errors you just pasted
[10:50] <DylanCl> damn me and my unknown errors :P
[10:50] <Guest43535> is there a log for serial connections? i try to use direct serial connection but get no output on the connecting machine. where to check on the receiving machine if it notices the connection attempt?
[10:50] <compdoc> martinfletcher__, setting up active directory is more involved than a 'little help'
[10:50] <ehhh> can a mid-priced graphics card with hdmi output be a viable upgrade to an onboard one with only vga? i read that vga supports higher resolution but that hdmi is a bit sharper (clearer?) because vga converts from digital to analog, then to digital again while hdmi is digital all the way
[10:51] <martinfletcher__> compdoc, i have the directory setup, i am just having trouble getting the debian/samba to auth against it
[10:51] <mumpitze1> ehhh: yes, very much so.
[10:52] <mumpitze1> ehhh: any videocard with DVI or hdmi, DVI preferred, will give you a higher res than when you have vga output only on your PC
[10:52] <mumpitze1> ehhh: no need for midpriced. 30$/€ is enough
[10:53] <ehhh> mumpitze1: a cheap upgrade then, though it might be worth mentioning that my tv screen isn't full hdmi it's an early plasma i think it supports a bit above 720p
[10:54] <mumpitze1> it will then usually only support 1366x768 at most. at that resolution you shouldn't need to replace vga at all
[10:54] <BluesKaj_> ehhh, most plasma tvs support 180i as well as 720p
[10:54] <argoneus> does bootchart help if I'm experiencing -very- long boot times?
[10:54] <BluesKaj_> 1080i that is
[10:55] <BluesKaj_> ehhh,^
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: I use dmesg.   run:  dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the numbers in the left colomn. Those are seconds since the kernel came up
[10:55] <ehhh> BluesKaj_: yes i can probably figure out the what resolution i can get out of hdmi by switching on my xbox since it's connected with hdmi, might yield some results
[10:55] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: ehhhhh
[10:55] <argoneus> like 120 seconds are one and the same message repeating
[10:56] <argoneus> *ERROR* atombios stuck in loop for more than 5 secs aborting
[10:56] <argoneus> *ERROR* atombios stuck executing CE5E
[10:56] <argoneus> what the hell
[10:56] <ehhh> i heard 1080i isn't as good as 1080p though, is there any truth to that?
[10:56] <Guest43535> ehhh, if you display text on your tv and experience fuzzy fonts the dicital connection through hdmi might improve that. if you manly watch videos you might not even notice.
[10:56] <mumpitze1> BluesKaj_: 1080i, what is the point? 1080i is awful and unusable for computer use. you always want progressive, 720p or 1080p
[10:56] <BluesKaj_> ehhh, I'm using a plasma , but it's 3yrs old so it supports mos re's available , std is 1920x1080
[10:57] <Guest43535> i only means interlaced which is only every other line is changed from one frame to the next instead of the whole image. you might see it in fast horizontal movement. e.g. sidescrolling text
[10:57] <ehhh> Guest43535: mainly music but that will be controlled with android later on, though when i put on some full 1080p videos i really was blown away
[10:58] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: http://i.imgur.com/QjyiAL5.png does this say anything? >.>
[10:58] <ehhh> it is clear, not sharp but really really clear
[10:58] <BluesKaj_> mumpitze1, well  dunno , never used 1080i , but I assumed it wasn't so bad
[10:59] <mumpitze1> I don't think vga can even output interlaced
[10:59] <mumpitze1> interlaced is pretty much TV only
[10:59] <datzy> hello
[11:00] <BluesKaj_> mumpitze1, I'm using a plsama tv / monitor ...lots of ppl do now
[11:00] <ehhh> though the text i sometimes have to be at the edge of my seat to read text properly after i installed x instead of gnome (i guess gnome just has bigger text built into everything)
[11:00] <datzy> looking for a low-contrast gnome terminal palette
[11:00] <datzy> suggestions?
[11:00] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Sort of fixed it
[11:01] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: sort of as in I can stream with it? :P
[11:01] <Guest43535> as mumpitze1 mentioned a very cheap gpu should suffice. so if you're unhappy with your current viewing experience it is worth a shot. expensive gpus are mainly for gaming.
[11:01] <BluesKaj_> ehh  you can help your fonts by increeasing the dpi , but don't ask me where to find it in unity/gnome
[11:01] <Guest43535> or scientific computations. but if you needed that you would know :)
[11:01] <mumpitze1> BluesKaj_: but yours does 1080p, no?
[11:01] <BluesKaj_> ehhh,^
[11:01] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: try this version http://pastebin.com/ymNu6FLb
[11:01] <BluesKaj_> mumpitze1, yes
[11:02] <ehhh> BluesKaj_: yes i adjusted it a bit at first configurations, should probably mess with it a bit more (i'm on xfce)
[11:02] <babinlonston> Hi after restarting my ubuntu12.04 server  cant ping to 8.8.8.8  , while im have a look at the resolv.conf there is nil entries what I have made before , How to Permanently keep the resolv.conf entries in /etc/reslov.conf even after a restart please guide
[11:03] <BluesKaj_> ehhh, ok understood
[11:03] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: do you use network-manager? if not, install the resolvconf package and edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:03] <ehhh> should i expected any performance wise upgrades from a cheap card do you tihnk? i always assume ram and cpu speed is the main part of the performance (and the motherboard's condition)
[11:03] <babinlonston> its totally in Command line i Dont need a GUI
[11:04] <chris80> any body having experience with setting up a terminal connection between two linux machines? following this tutorial i have failed :( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[11:04] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: network-manager exists for commandline too. are you DHCP of any sort?
[11:05] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: in short, how do you configure your IP(s) currently?
[11:05] <babinlonston> Only Router have DHCP
[11:05] <babinlonston> in /etc/network/interface configured my ip like this auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static 	address 192.168.1.101 	netmask 255.255.255.0 	gateway 192.168.1.1
[11:05] <datzy> Hey
[11:06] <datzy> Any GNOME low-contrast palettes?
[11:06] <chris80> ehhh, every cheap gpu should be able to handle hd video playback nowadays. if you don't do 3d heavy stuff like gaming or scientific computation on the gpu. faster gpu will provide you no gain.
[11:06] <babinlonston> and in resolv.conf i  have configured as this nameserver 8.8.8.8  nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:06] <babinlonston> after a restart its not there and not pinging to google
[11:07] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: you router has a DHCP server. that doesn't tell me how your ubuntu server gets its IP
[11:08] <ehhh> chris80: yeah i don't think 3d is entering my living room before i can drop the glasses and at a good price (though i heard you can achieve some 3d effect with red/blue glasses in a lot of screens), gaming i'm just trying but i don't think the computer is capable, though i have downloaded some to try some out to see the results
[11:08] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: have you networkmanager installed?
[11:08] <babinlonston> i dont know that how can i check
[11:09] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: dpkg -l |grep network-manager | grep ^ii
[11:09] <cptcel23> can anyone tell me how to install proprietary nvidia drivers? (i've tried everything, i can't find anything the instructions are talking about)
[11:09] <babinlonston> its not showing notthink
[11:10] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: then install resolvconf
[11:10] <babinlonston> how to install it guide me
[11:10] <mumpitze1> and set your DNS via /etc/network/interfaces stanza
[11:10] <mumpitze1> you install it like any other package
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: i have no idea how to read those things
[11:10] <chris80> ehhh, if you wan't to play games on your pc a gpu might improve your fps and available effects. but that depends, if you like to play the latest blockbuster games in full glory or are settling for the occasional indy game.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: try the dmesg method
[11:11] <cptcel23> was that @ me chris88?
[11:11] <ehhh> chris80: to put it this way when it comes to games , i've got a glitched 360 running everything from ps1 and down ;)
[11:11] <sussy3> question1: will backup thunderbird (windows version) be usable by thunderbird in ubuntu? i mean will i be able to transfer my emails from windows to ubuntu like that?
[11:12] <ikonia> sussy3: depends how it works, from memory, it should work fine
[11:12] <sussy3> from memory?
[11:12] <ikonia> sussy3: yes, from my memory of how it works
[11:12] <cptcel23> anyone know how to install graphics card drivers..?
[11:12] <ikonia> cptcel23: for what card ?
[11:12] <chris80> ehhh, so if you got your gaming needs covered by the 360 don't bother sinking too much money into your pc's gpu. also a midrange gpu today out performes a 360. hardware is aging fast.
[11:13] <cptcel23> ikonia, it's a geforce 770 chipset (kfa2)
[11:13] <sussy3> how to be sure? afraid to lose my emails....
[11:13] <ikonia> cptcel23: they should be available from the ubuntu repo
[11:13] <ikonia> !nvidia | cptcel23
[11:13] <ikonia> sussy3: well, run the backup and restore the backup to verify
[11:13] <babinlonston> will u please tell me how to disable DHCP in ubuntu then the problem ill get solve
[11:14] <cptcel23> ikonia, i looked at that guide - it says click on 'system > additional drivers' - there's no 'system' to click on anywhere
[11:14] <ehhh> chris80: do you think i should stick with nvidia? (it's what's built in)
[11:14] <ikonia> cptcel23: ahh yes, it's changed now
[11:14] <cptcel23> ikonia, i found 'additional hardware' as a tab in one of the settings subwindow
[11:14] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: as I said
[11:14] <sussy3> so i have to keep windows..... install ubuntu alongside windows (and not replace).....
[11:14] <ikonia> cptcel23: I've not got a 13.04 machine here to verify
[11:14] <argoneus> it's locked up for about 2-3 minutes at one repeating error message
[11:14] <ikonia> sussy3: test on another machine as a test
[11:14] <argoneus> and from my googling the message is caused by vgaswitcheroo but I don't know what to do
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: then use the web to see what the message means...
[11:15] <cptcel23> ikonia, but it didn't list any cards, so i tried on the cli, that didn't list any drivers either
[11:15] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: I did and tried various things
[11:15] <argoneus> but no-go
[11:15] <sussy3> dont have another machine
[11:15] <ikonia> cptcel23: can you output the command "lspci" into a pastebin
[11:15] <ikonia> sussy3: then you'll have to get creative
[11:16] <ikonia> sussy3: or do more research
[11:16] <mumpitze1> cptcel23: best use the command "lspci -nn"
[11:16] <ikonia> sussy3: from memory though, it works fine
[11:16] <ikonia> cptcel23: lspci is fine
[11:16] <mumpitze1> argoneus:what laptop is it and how do you disable the ati chip?
[11:16] <cptcel23> i think the relevant line is:..... NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1184] (rev a1)
[11:16] <argoneus> mumpitze1: Probook 4340s
[11:16] <argoneus> with AMD 7570M and HD3000
[11:16] <mumpitze1> argoneus: I have a T400 with intel/ati and have never seen such a message
[11:17] <ikonia> cptcel23: I asked you to output the command - not what you think is relevant
[11:17] <argoneus> I disable it by adding echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:17] <argoneus> mumpitze1: the strangest thing is
[11:17] <argoneus> that once it boots and works fine, just one gpu, no freezes
[11:17] <argoneus> and other times it takes forever to boot, throws those errors
[11:17] <argoneus> and then freezes when switching to tty
[11:17] <sussy3> so what you are saying is that the backup should be the same kind of file for thunderbid(windows) and thunderbird(ubuntu) right?
[11:18] <ikonia> sussy3: yes, it's not platform specific,
[11:18] <cptcel23> ikonia, mumpitze1 http://pastebin.com/2GXyHpi2
[11:18] <sussy3> ok thank you... just another quick question....
[11:19] <david> hi
[11:20] <mumpitze1> argoneus: sounds like a race condition to me.
[11:20] <argoneus> race condition?
[11:20] <mumpitze1> argoneus: where do you have you echo command exactly?
[11:20] <argoneus> mumpitze1: /etc/rc.local
[11:21] <chris80> ehhh, i only know so much. for linux i currently preferre nvidia for better driver support. but than again if playing the latest games i still have to boot into windows and there it doesn't matter. i buy mostly following bang for the buck reviews that sort gpus by fps/$
[11:21] <ikonia> cptcel23: ok, so that looks all clean
[11:22] <sussy3> say my comp has a 64bit capable processor but windows is installed 32bit version... i will proceed with a alongside windows (installation), i mean without removing windows.... can i install ubuntu 64bit or do i need to install ubuntu 32bit? i mean does it matter or not that windows is 32bit in choosing which ubuntu version to install?
[11:22] <ikonia> sussy3: you can install 64bit fine
[11:22] <mumpitze1> argoneus: I suggest to do it immediately after /sys and /proc are mounted before anything else. at least for trying
[11:22] <argoneus> mumpitze1: how would I do that? I'm new to linux, sorry
[11:22] <chris80> ehhh, if there is something i really like to play and can't i consider if it's worth to put down the money for a new gpu. especially if the list of games is getting longer :) if you have your gaming needs covered save your money.
[11:23] <sussy3> ok thank you. that should be it for me today :)
[11:23] <chris80> ehhh, but i wouldn't be happy with a analog connection anymore which vga is. i wannt crisp images. and that can be remedied for 50$
[11:24] <cptcel23> ikonia, hmm..  any ideas?
[11:24] <ikonia> cptcel23: just having a look at that cards linux support
[11:24] <cptcel23> ikonia, thanks
[11:25] <alexandros_c> good morning, yahoo mail keeps reloading. How can I stop this behaviour?
[11:25] <ikonia> cptcel23: ok, so it looks like the standard nvidia package should support that card ok
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> susundberg: you can install 64bit Ubuntu if you wish. The fact that your Windows is 32bit doesn't have any bearing
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: in what aplication
[11:26] <susundberg> ActionParsnip: bad tab expand`
[11:26] <ehhh> chris80: yes i am browsing the webshops for the cheaper kind, a lot of nvidia gefore processors ranging from brands like ASUS, ZOTAC, gigabyte, i haven't gotten to look at amd's yet i've read that they're not the best for linux
[11:27] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, sussy3 is gone
[11:27] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: in firefox
[11:27] <cptcel23> ikonia, so how to i properly go about installing it/selecting it for use since none of the normal tools work
[11:27] <ikonia> !info nvidia
[11:27] <ikonia> !info nvidia-current
[11:27] <ikonia> cptcel23: installing the package "nvidia-current" should install the correct kernel modules
[11:28] <ikonia> cptcel23: you then should be able to configure the xorg.conf to use it
[11:28] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: BTW I am running ubuntu 13.04 64 bit, with the latest updates
[11:28] <chris80> ehhh, do you have some games in mind you want to play on your pc?
[11:29] <cptcel23> ikonia, any idea how to configure xorg.conf to use it? (preferably not manually!)
[11:29] <cptcel23> also any idea why the normal process doesn't just work since it's supported etc?
[11:30] <ikonia> cptcel23: it looks like your card isn't identifying properly - which could be why the normal process isn't working
[11:30] <ikonia> cptcel23: the webpage I gave you earlier explains how to create the xorg.conf
[11:30] <ehhh> chris80: not really, just thought i'd try out some of the stuff from the software center, and am also going to try to run some old games (windows xp era most likely) newer stuff i can get working untill they stop releasing games but i still have a huge library of unplayed games and am going to upgrade the hdd for the 360 as big as i can, i've been looking at various from WD black series optionally if it's worth it WD Velociraptor
[11:32] <ehhh> emulation is having real progress lately on the 360 especially ps1 has just released an amazing emulator that finally seems they're not just giving up on :)
[11:32] <ikonia> ehhh: this is really nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:32] <cptcel23> ikonia, i really have to boot into recovery mode root shell to do this? lol
[11:33] <ikonia> cptcel23: probably the cleanest way to do it
[11:33] <ehhh> ikonia: yeah i go ot easily but we're still talking about ubuntu :P
[11:33] <ikonia> cptcel23: there are other ways, but following the process seems logical
[11:33] <ikonia> ehhh: no - there is nothing to do with ubuntu in this conversation
[11:34] <argoneus> okay
[11:34] <ehhh> ikonia: then try reading the first line of the latest long post
[11:34] <argoneus> mumpitze1: it doesn't freeze
[11:34] <argoneus> it just locks up for 3 minutes or so
[11:34] <ikonia> ehhh: again nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: if you make a new firefox profile (keep the standing one), is it ok there?
[11:34] <auronandace> ehhh: this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[11:35] <cptcel23> ikonia, ok.. brb
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[11:35] <columb> histo. Skype freezed. I killed it. Started again... and sound works at regular speed.
[11:35] <mumpitze1> argoneus: I don't know enough of ubuntu upstart to tell you how :(
[11:35] <argoneus> ;_;
[11:35] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: will try now
[11:35] <mumpitze1> argoneus: ask here in channel, e.h. ikonia might know
[11:35] <ehhh> well now you're just being ridiculous, do i need to highlight it for you ? it was about what games i would try to run on ubuntu and i just explained that i basically have my gaming needs covered :/
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: if its the same, try a different browser
[11:35] <bazhang> ehhh, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[11:35] <mumpitze1> basically you want the echo command as soon as /sys/ is available and as long as possible before anything else access video, e.g. no Xorg should be loaded
[11:36] <ikonia> ehhh: right, so it's nothing to do with ubuntu,
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: if its ok as the new profile in the same browser then you have isolated the issue
[11:36] <kingbeast> alright children, don't make me put the stools in the corner and put you in time out
[11:36] <ikonia> ehhh: if you have support needs/questions, then great, here is the right space.
[11:36] <bazhang> kingbeast, stop that
[11:36] <kingbeast> bazhang stop what
[11:37] <bazhang> kingbeast, the nonsense. take it elsewhere
[11:37] <chris80> ehhh, with that demands i would look for a passive cold gpu without a fan if the rest or setup is currently near silent.
[11:37] <ehhh> well now you're just trolling :/ let me break it down. . "it was about what games i would try to run on ubuntu" "what games i would try to run on ubuntu" "try to run on ubuntu" "run on ubuntu" "ubuntu" get it? ;)
[11:37] <kingbeast> bazhang, or else?
[11:37] <ikonia> ehhh: no-one is trolling, please stick to support issues here.
[11:37] <auronandace> ehhh: just talking about ubuntu is not on-topic here, only ubuntu support issues are
[11:37] <ikonia> kingbeast: please let it go, I think the conversation is over and it's back to support.
[11:37] <ehhh> alright i catch the drift
[11:38] <ikonia> ehhh: thanks
[11:38] <axizz> bazhang????
[11:38] <ehhh> chris80: the pc is basically silent unless it's having a hard time with something but in the end I won't be hearing it as i plan to have stereo speakers hooked up near the placement of it
[11:39] <axizz> wind steam
[11:39] <ehhh> that will probably deafen the computer 90%
[11:40] <argoneus> mumpitze1: well I think I fixed it
[11:40] <argoneus> I blacklisted the radeon in modprobe
[11:40] <argoneus> duh
[11:40] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: where do you go for a new profile? and BTW it keep refreshing in chromium too
[11:40] <ehhh> chris80: do you have any opinion whether i should be looking at nvidia or amd?
[11:41] <mumpitze1> argoneus: you sure that does stop the radeon suck power too?
[11:41] <argoneus> mumpitze1: that's a good question
[11:41] <argoneus> I'll monitor the temperatures
[11:41] <chris80> ehhh, for linux driver support i'd currently stick with nvidia.
[11:42] <axizz> M
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: you can run:   firefox -p     I believe, or simply rename the firefox config folder
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: maybe Yahoo are having issues
[11:42] <argoneus> mumpitze1: guess not
[11:42] <argoneus> argh
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: Nvidia all the way :)
[11:43] <mumpitze1> argoneus: do you still get a vgaswitcheroo file when it's blacklisted?
[11:43] <argoneus> mumpitze1: nope
[11:43] <mumpitze1> :(
[11:43] <kingbeast> AMD and Nvidia both are stepping up their game in the driver department for linux, if you want a card that works, do your research and stop being lazy, make sure it works before you buy it
[11:43] <SwashBuckla> any ideas on how I integrate my program I've made into SysV so it starts at boot?
[11:43] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: no, I have logged on to yahoo with gnome-ubuntu and centos with out any problems
[11:44] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: well sysv is dead on ubuntu
[11:44] <auronandace> !upstart | SwashBuckla
[11:44] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: so you need to look at moving them to upstart of systemd in the longer term depending on how things pan out
[11:44] <SwashBuckla> sorry I meant upstart
[11:45] <SwashBuckla> !upstart
[11:45] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: if you've written upstart jobs, you should be able to drop them in
[11:45] <argoneus> mumpitze1: well
[11:45] <SwashBuckla> I have a start-stop-daemon
[11:45] <argoneus> I think I might have done it now
[11:45] <argoneus> I blacklisted radeon, and added "modprobe radeon" to rc.local and then turned it off
[11:45] <argoneus> with the echo
[11:45] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: I want to get this daemon running at boot
[11:45] <mumpitze1> heh
[11:46] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: ok, so install your upstart jobs
[11:46] <argoneus> mumpitze1: temperatures are going down and it -seems- to wor
[11:46] <argoneus> I'll reboot a few times
[11:48] <cptcel23> ikonia, didn't work - X -configure failed with can't create lockfile
[11:48] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: it looks like this involves creating a job configuration file
[11:48] <axizz> argoneus: how blacklstd radeon
[11:48] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: yes, you said you had created upstart jobs, so I assume you have done this
[11:48] <ikonia> cptcel23: lock file ? if this is in the recovery mode just remove the lock file as there should be no other X session running
[11:48] <ikonia> cptcel23: there is no X session running right ?
[11:48] <auronandace> !blacklist | axizz
[11:49] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: no I have created a start-stop-daemon .sh file. This is all I have created.
[11:49] <cptcel23> ikonia, there wasn't - i've booted normally now
[11:49] <ikonia> cptcel23: ok, so when you where in recovery mode, you couldn't run the X -configure command ?
[11:49] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: ok, so you need to create an upstart job for this
[11:49] <cptcel23> ikonia, correct
[11:49] <ikonia> cptcel23: that seems very od
[11:49] <cptcel23> (and good multitasking ;) )
[11:49] <ikonia> odd even
[11:50] <argoneus> mumpitze1: 3 reboots and so far no freeze or slow boot/shutdown
[11:50] <ikonia> cptcel23: ahhh, I've never seen Xorg complain about a lock file before, but it looks like it creates a lock file in /tmp
[11:50] <ikonia> cptcel23: http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages
[11:50] <ikonia> cptcel23: in all my years I never new that, so clear down /tmp and try again (in my opinion)
[11:50] <ikonia> knew that even
[11:51] <cptcel23> ikonia, not sure if you saw something different on that page, but if you were looking at the 'server is already active for display 0' error - that's not the one I got
[11:52] <ikonia> cptcel23: search for "lock"
[11:52] <cptcel23> ikonia, that's what i did, and it doesn't mention the exact error i got anywhere
[11:52] <ikonia> cptcel23: no it doesn't but apply logic
[11:53] <ikonia> cptcel23: your error message was "can't get exclusive access on lock file"
[11:53] <ikonia> cptcel23: or something like that
[11:53] <cptcel23> ikonia, for starters, it didn't say remove the file and try again, or I would have, it said 'can't create it', not that one already exists
[11:53] <ikonia> cptcel23: this error shows you where the lock file is, so removing it will allow your process to get lock on it
[11:53] <cptcel23> i'll give it a go
[11:53] <cptcel23> brb
[11:55] <bleb> What's the standard way to search for packages in the repos? I'm looking to install CGAL and I find myself googleing "cgal ubuntu package" to find out the name of the package. There must be a slicker way?
[11:55] <bazhang> bleb, apt-cache search
[11:56] <adem_> hi
[11:56] <auronandace> !find cgal | bleb
[11:56] <cptcel23> ikonia, didn't work - no lockfile existed already
[11:57] <bleb> Thanks bazhang
[11:57] <cptcel23> i suspect root shell boots into a read only filesystem
[11:57] <cptcel23> ^^ ikonia sorry
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ashwholes
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ash wholes
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ash wholes
[11:58] <bazhang> adem_, wrong channel
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ash wholes
[11:58] <FloodBot1> adem_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <argoneus> mumpitze1: nevermind, it froze up again
[11:59] <argoneus> :|
[12:00] <argoneus> god damn
[12:00] <jony_easyrider> with firefox 22 TabGroups has stopped working, please help!
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> cptcel23: mount -o remont,rw /
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> cptcel23: will mount it read/write
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: report a bug
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: or use a decent browser :)
[12:01] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: so ok I've created my upstart job config file now. What do I do next?
[12:02] <SwashBuckla> (how do I install my upstart job?)
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> for me Firefox is the best
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> so I want to resolve this issue
[12:03] <cptcel23> ActionParsnip, surely there is a way to switch x drivers without dropping to root shell in recovery mode and remounting / as rw..?!
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> Firefox can be downgraded?
[12:05] <somsip_> jony_easyrider: uninstall the current version, then pin and old version
[12:06] <somsip_> ~pinning | jony_easyrider
[12:06] <somsip_> !pinning | jony_easyrider
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> jony_easyrider  you can easily move and group tabs in firefox
[12:06] <mumpitze1> jony_easyrider: you sure it's not just a simple versioning conflict?
[12:11] <jony_easyrider> I use windows too. I use the same firefox profile on both OS. The ver. of the Firefox is the same and in windows it works ok the TabGroups addon
[12:11] <jony_easyrider> mumpitze1, how can I check it?
[12:14] <mumpitze1> jony_easyrider: I suggest asking a firefox or mozilla channel. not really a ubuntu problem.
[12:14] <cptcel23> anyone know if there's a graphical or cli 'driver chooser' for x in ubuntu?
[12:16] <omniapro> hi guys anyone know how could I set anonymous my connection
[12:17] <DJones> !tor | omniapro
[12:17] <omniapro> I have to use also vidalia with Tor or can i install just tor?
[12:18] <papabur> brb
[12:18] <DJones> omniapro: Can't answer that, I've never used Tor
[12:19] <Greylocks> omniapro yes you need to run both to be secure
[12:20] <axizz> how can i intregate both
[12:20] <Greylocks> learn more here: https://www.torproject.org/index.html.en
[12:21] <axizz> what about generatin password field vadalia>settings
[12:23] <jony_easyrider> how can I install an older version of Firefox?
[12:24] <myalkboy> Hello
[12:26] <myalkboy> Anyone tried to install Ubuntu on Nexus 4
[12:29] <DJones> myalkboy: It might be worth asking that in #ubuntu-touch
[12:30] <myalkboy> DJones: I ask there another question
[12:32] <drupod> hello guys
[12:32] <cfhowlett> drupod, greetings
[12:33] <cptcel23> anyone know how to check which driver x is using?
[12:34] <drupod> can som1 help me with my ubuntu 12.10 gnome remix, i can't adjust screen resolution on my netbook
[12:35] <auronandace> cptcel23: lsmod will show you what is loaded
[12:35] <nb-ben_w> does anyone know when ubuntu phone comes out?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !phone | nb-ben_w
[12:36] <nb-ben_w> thank you
[12:37] <omniapro> I've installed tor, vidalia and polipo but now when i'm going to open vidalia there's an error message:
[12:37] <drupod> hello guys weh can i find monitor settings on ubuntu 12.10 remix?
[12:37] <omniapro> Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to make sure you specified the correct name and location for the executable Tor.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !touch
[12:39] <gkaklas> omniapro, Does "sudo service tor restart" do anything?
[12:41] <omniapro> i've tried to do "sudo service tor restart but there's the same problem!
[12:44] <Ari-Yang> how do I remove old kernel versions I don't need anymore?
[12:44] <Ari-Yang> what's better, doing it via terminal or Ubuntu Tweak?
[12:44] <auronandace> Ari-Yang: i find it easier with synaptic
[12:45] <linuxmonkey> hey guys whats the command to send a factoid to someone else in a pm?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> linuxmonkey, !factoid>username
[12:45] <auronandace> !pm > linuxmonkey
[12:45] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, do dpkg -l | grep linux-image to identify the old kernel images.. and then proceed to sudo apt-get purge those you don't want
[12:46] <linuxmonkey> ty
[12:46] <BluesKaj_> Ari-Yang, sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-25-* (example)
[12:46] <gkaklas> omniapro, I think that normally tor should be installed in /usr/sbin/tor. Maybe if "whereis tor" shows something else you can fill the correct path in vidalia settings, in the general tab.
[12:46] <Ari-Yang> auronandace, ah I see. ezra-s wait, one by one O__o surely there's a faster way to remove all but the one I'm using
[12:46] <allucinato77> !list
[12:46] <qursk> how am  i gonna install counter strike 1.6 to ubuntu 13.04
[12:46] <cornell> Good morning... I wish to find those packages that I've installed on my Ubuntu machine, as opposed to those that are part of the original install.  I know I can use dpkg to list installed packages, but how do I discriminate between those that Ubuntu installed and those that I installed?
[12:46] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, it takes you 1 minute to do it with terminal like this
[12:47] <Ari-Yang> oh, and does synaptic automatically gun grub-update ?
[12:47] <Ari-Yang> ^ auronandace
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Ari-Yang, fear not the terminal.  sudo grub-update and done ...
[12:47] <omniapro> gkaklas, this is the result ofwhereis tor:     tor: /usr/sbin/tor  /etc/tor  /usr/share/tor  /usr/share/man/man8/tor.8.gz
[12:48] <auronandace> Ari-Yang: yes it will
[12:48] <gkaklas> Ari-Yang, in synaptic you can search for "linux-headers" and "linux-headers" and then purge the ones you don't need anymore
[12:51] <qursk> guys counter strike 1.6 installing in ubuntu 13.04
[12:51] <qursk> i cant
[12:51] <qursk> steam wont work actually cant see cs in steam so thats why cant install it from steam
[12:52] <cfhowlett> qursk, sounds like a steam issue then ... start your troubleshooting there
[12:52] <ss_haze> [filter_transform.so] critical: cannot open input file not_stabilized.mp4.trf!
[12:52] <qursk> but i can find all other games listed expect counter strike
[12:53] <adamk> qursk: Still sounds like a steam issue :-)
[12:53] <qursk> :)))
[12:53] <qursk> ok guys thanks i ll give it a try
[12:54] <qursk> at least how am i gonna run the troubleshoot cause im new in linux thanks
[12:54] <smallmouse> just moved to 13.04 top menu disappears on multiple workspace when i move to another workspace
[12:54] <smallmouse> on classic menu no effects  feels like a windows upgrade
[12:54] <smallmouse> something that worked fine no longer works
[12:56] <gkaklas> omniapro, what is the executable that vidalia is trying tor run? Maybe the permissions aren't right? "sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/tor"
[12:56] <k3n4n> why can i not watch youtube videos?
[12:56] <smallmouse> k3n4n: insall restricted extras
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !details|k3n4n,
[12:57] <smallmouse> k3n4n: in software centre
[12:57] <swagat> Hello guys
[12:57] <cfhowlett> swagat, greetings
[12:58] <hylian> I get a blinking cursor on my desktop after boot up. I've seen it on the lxde desktop, the xfce desktop and the gnome desktop. (Thought maybe it was because I was using XFCE)...
[12:58] <hylian> if i log out and then log back in it is gone.
[12:59] <swagat> I have a weird issue with my ubuntu 12.04. I am unable to play 720p videos. I have a dual boot with windows and those videos work fine on windows. These are local files I am talking about.
[12:59] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Any other left out info like a black screen, that is not much info.
[12:59] <swagat> I am using vlc to play them. Still the same.
[13:00] <smallmouse> swagat: install restricted extras software centre first
[13:00] <cfhowlett> swagat, ONLY the 720 videos are failing
[13:00] <cornell> Can anyone tell me how to alter the order of os's offered by grub at boot?
[13:00] <swagat> restricted extras installed already.
[13:00] <gkaklas> swagat, what's the filetype?
[13:00] <k3n4n> i have ubuntu studio 13.04 and on firefox browser i can not run youtube videos. but in facebook and other video web sites can run webvideos
[13:00] <cornell> On Ubuntu 12.04
[13:00] <TJ-> cornell: the order is controlled by the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[13:00] <ehhh> i'm looking at graphics cards from nvidia geforce 6xx models, do all nvidia cards use the same drivers in ubuntu?
[13:01] <hylian> wilee-nilee: actually, no. It's just blinking cursors, one about 3 inches to the right of the other. there are also "ghosts" on the screen when I open a window.
[13:01] <smallmouse> k3n4n: have you installed restricted extras
[13:01] <cfhowlett> k3n4n, so NOT local videos, youtube streams ... I'd suspect a flash issue.
[13:01] <k3n4n> i dont know... my other 2 pc'c can't run too
[13:01] <hylian> swagat: do you have ubuntu-restricted-addon installed as well?
[13:02] <swagat> @gkaklas, Those are mkv format
[13:02] <ehhh> that's the only thing scaring me about a gpu upgrade is the drivers
[13:02] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Have you looked in additional drivers, identifying the graphics card is helpful.
[13:02] <swagat> Yes
[13:02] <gkaklas> swagat, what about 720p in e.g. avi?
[13:02] <adamk> ehhh: All modern nvidia GPUs can use the same proprietary driver.
[13:03] <swagat> @hylian yes i have them restricted extras installed. @gkaklas, not sure about avi. need to test
[13:03] <smallmouse> swagat: if you are on 64 bit install flashlugin installer
[13:03] <swagat> Yes I am on 64 bit.
[13:03] <hylian> wilee-nilee: I have. I have the suggested driver installed. This problem goes away if I log out and back in, and It's not always there. It only shows up about 1 in 6 times i boot.
[13:03] <auronandace> ehhh: probably best to avoid anything too new and too old
[13:03] <jony_easyrider> anyone knows a working tab grouping addon for Firefox?
[13:03] <smallmouse> swagat: have you installed flashlpugin installer you need this for 64bit
[13:04] <Ari-Yang> swagat, these are videos that you have on your machine's hardrive, yes?
[13:04] <smallmouse> swagat: software centre
[13:04] <swagat> @smallmouse, will check it. @Ari-Yang - yes
[13:04] <Ari-Yang> swagat, I recommend mplayer/mplayer2/mpv over VLC
[13:04] <swagat> same issues with mplayer
[13:04] <Ari-Yang> and what driver are you using swagat? open source or proprietary?
[13:05] <hylian> swagat: I didn't say the extras, I said the addons. ubuntu-restricted-addon
[13:05] <swagat> i have intel x4500 graphics only. It is a dell 1545 lappy
[13:05] <TJ-> hylian: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues; it sounds like a GPU memory corruption or communications issue
[13:05] <swagat> @hylian, is that available in software center.
[13:05] <ehhh> i was recommended that i won't need a really expensive one so i'm looking at the 6xx series, though he said that is should look for fluid cooled ones (i think, passive cooling over a fan), i've found one that looks compelling specifically the "ASUS GEFORCE GT 620 1GB DDR3 PCI-E VGA/DVI/HDMI" it's relatively cheap though it has fan cooling
[13:05] <Ari-Yang> swagat, go to system settings "Additional Drivers" or go to software sources and go to the "additional drivers" tab
[13:05] <hylian> TJ-: thanks, will do.
[13:06] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Not sure really, others might have some ideas, if you can name the card and driver you are using, more info the better.
[13:06] <omniapro> hi guys anyone know how could I set anonymous my connection
[13:06] <swagat> I am not getting anything new in the additional drivers.
[13:07] <omniapro> sorry for the last message anyway i've tried chmod but nothing
[13:07] <omniapro> same error again
[13:07] <Ari-Yang> swagat, well if you know you didn't install any drivers yourself... you're most likely running open source radeon driver...
[13:07] <hylian> wilee-nilee: thanks for trying to help me! :)
[13:07] <wilee-nilee> sure ;)
[13:08] <ehhh> will the fan generate a lot of noise ? it's specifically so i can get hdmi or dvi instead of vga, media center pc for music and videos
[13:08] <hylian> swagat: it probably is, I don't use the software center. I just sudo apt-get install. But I would assume it's in their under some name.
[13:08] <saiarcot895> omniapro: are you unable to launch tor through vidalia?
[13:09] <hylian> TJ-: here's my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804684/. I will dig through it myself, but if your up to it, a second pair of eyes coldn't hurt.
[13:09] <ikonia> ehhh: read the spec on the card you plan to buy, it should tell you the fan noise, other people can't know how loud a fan will be to your perception
[13:09] <cornell> Thanks TJ-, could you be more explicit?   I've found 90-linux_proxy, with a couple lines about ubuntu, and 90_os-prober_proxy,  with lines about mint and windows 7.  But when grub offers the list, it's mint, ubuntu, windows.  Not the order indicated by the scripts.
[13:09] <swagat> @hylian ubuntu-restricted-addon is already installed
[13:10] <ehhh> ikonia: the computer itself i dont know if you recall but it will be stored in midst two speakers and music is almost always playing so i'm pretty sure i'd turn a deaf ear to it, though i guess the fan noise is stated in db, what would be a reasonable amount for reference?
[13:11] <ikonia> ehhh: again - thats up to you to work out, "how loud is a fan" is not an ubuntu problem
[13:11] <auronandace> ehhh: sounds like a question for ##hardware rather than #ubuntu
[13:11] <TJ-> cornell: Those scripts don't sound like Ubuntu-installed versions; which release of Ubuntu is it? It sounds as if you've got an interaction with Mint going on there
[13:12] <Ari-Yang> swagat, can you elaborate on "being unable to play 720p videos"?
[13:12] <Ari-Yang> like what do you get when you try?
[13:12] <ehhh> i'll give a peep in #hardware
[13:12] <cornell> Well, the machine started with Windows 7, I added Ubuntu 12.04, and just this week added mint.
[13:12] <ikonia> ehhh: ##hardware - not #hardware
[13:12] <swagat> Well the video lags and I hear audio
[13:12] <saiarcot895> ehhh: according to a website, a refrigerator is 40dB and a conversation is 60 dB
[13:12] <ehhh> #hardware took me to ##hardware :P
[13:13] <swagat> @Ari-Yang, How do I install video drivers for my intel 4500?
[13:13] <ikonia> swagat: they should already be installed
[13:13] <cornell> TJ-: does that indicate that mint "reworked" the grub.  Meaning I should be asking in a mint room instead of ubuntu?
[13:13] <ehhh> well if a fridge is around 40db i'd really think i should stay below atleast 25 . . i'll figure
[13:13] <joncam> So -- odd question.  I have a laptop with an occasional secondary monitor; I have the standard Unity 2x2 virtual desktop arrangement.  Is there any way to break the external monitor off of that, and have 2x2 only on one screen, and the other screen just one "static" display/workspace?  Not finding GUI settings to manage this, nor the right google terms
[13:13] <TJ-> hylian: I'd expect faults to show up with the prefix (EE) (for error) but I don't see anything. This may sound silly, but have you simply opened up the PC and re-seated the graphics card. I've seen those symptoms in the past when the edge connector end furthest from the rear of the case has lifted a millimeter or so with heat expansion/contraction and general vibration.
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> swagat, if you don't see anything in additional drivers, then most likely, there aren't any for that card
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> swagat, and tbh the open source driver is better than the proprietary
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> anyways
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> please elaborate
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> what is the 720p video like when you try to play it?
[13:14] <k3n4n> i have ubuntu studio 13.04 and on firefox browser i can not run youtube videos. but in facebook and other video web sites can run webvideos
[13:15] <TJ-> cornell: It does - but which ever OS it is, the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ are executed in name order, which is why the names start with numbers (easier to sort numbers), so to change the order in the grub menu rename those scripts with numbers in the order you want
[13:15] <ikonia> k3n4n: there will be limits to youtube as flash plugin compatabiliy moves away from linux
[13:15] <ezra-s> swagat, try the intel drivers site -> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[13:15] <ikonia> k3n4n: I'd suggest checking the html5 youtube website
[13:15] <hylian> TJ-: well, first of all, this is a cheap laptop. but second of all, a simple log out and log in solves this, so I am assuming something is happening too early or too late. and this only happens one in 6 boots.
[13:15] <swagat> @Ari-Yang, The video lags a lot and I head unsync audio. When I try to seek, it wakes it worse
[13:15] <ikonia> swagat: you do not need additional intel drivers, they are already part of xorg
[13:16] <swagat> cool
[13:16] <cornell> Thanks TJ-, but most seem to be... setup kind of things... themes and images and stuff.  The two I mentioned are the only that mention os's.
[13:16] <ezra-s> Google Chrome has and updated flash version in it, it is offtopic to #ubuntu though
[13:16] <StaticWIN> I really screwed my openldap up is there a way to wipe it so its like I just installed it?
[13:16] <swagat> Just for reference guys:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/312784/720p-video-lags-on-ubuntu-12-04
[13:16] <TJ-> hylian: I'm suspecting 'heat'. When the GPU is reset maybe it clears the issue. Have you searched for indications that the model of laptop is affecting by GPU overheating? E.g. the Dell XPS m1530 has many issues there
[13:17] <omniapro> saiarcot895 yes vidalia gives me an error message like there:  Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to make sure you specified the correct name and location for the executable Tor.
[13:17] <k3n4n> ikonia> k3n4n: I'd suggest checking the html5 youtube website: -> HOW?
[13:17] <Ari-Yang> (ikonia, he was referring to proprietary.) swagat you might be missing some stuff.... I say you download and install mpv (an active up-to-date fork of mplayer/mplayer2) https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build
[13:17] <saiarcot895> omniapro: And you're using the tor and vidalia package from ubuntu?
[13:17] <Ari-Yang> scroll down
[13:18] <Ari-Yang> there are installation instructions for ubuntu
[13:18] <TJ-> cornell: Read the scripts; they're not too hard to understand. Also, refer to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, read it, each script in /etc/grub.d/ inserts content into that file, and if I recall correctly, it prefixes the content it adds with a comment "# ..." with the script's name so you know which script is responsible
[13:18] <omniapro> saiarcot895 yes i've installed them from terminal
[13:18] <StaticWIN> anyone ? =\
[13:18] <Ari-Yang> swagat, after you git clone, there will be a mpv-build in your home directory, cd into and first get the required dependencies
[13:18] <gkaklas> swagat, i recently had problems with my intel card. I just upgraded my kernel to its newest version and installed "linux-firmware-nonfree".
[13:18] <ikonia> StaticWIN: saying "anyone" randomly is pointless
[13:19] <TJ-> StaticWIN: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package-name>"
[13:19] <StaticWIN> ty TJ
[13:19] <TJ-> StaticWIN: or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>"
[13:19] <saiarcot895> omniapro: Did you add the line "/usr/sbin/tor Ux," to vidalia's apparmor profile?
[13:19] <Ari-Yang> swagat, run sudo apt-get install git automake
[13:19] <swagat> Will try the fix guys and update you. Need a couple of hours to test.
[13:21] <omniapro> saiarcot895, do you mean in settings>general?
[13:21] <saiarcot895> no
[13:21] <hylian> TJ-: actually, as cheap as this thing was, ($260 bucks), it's not prone to heat issues. And windows never has an issue, even when running a solid vid game. Even 12.04 32 bit has no issue. It's only when I have 12.04 64bit installed that i get this.
[13:21] <k3n4n> ikonia: my browser dont open youtube html5
[13:21] <saiarcot895> omniapro: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vidalia/+bug/680192/comments/9
[13:21] <ikonia> k3n4n: what ?
[13:22] <LogiM> hi, qmail seems to have broken overnight (due to a failed plesk update from what i can tell) - can anyone here with experience of qmail help me identify the problem? i'm thinking if i can find what the plesk update broke i can just fix that directly?
[13:22] <ikonia> LogiM: errr is this a hosted vm ?
[13:22] <TJ-> hylian: Ahhh! good info then
[13:22] <k3n4n> you say i must try youtube html5 for watching videos?!
[13:22] <ikonia> k3n4n: right, so have you tried the youtube html5 site ?
[13:23] <hylian> TJ-: i forgot to mention, kde-workbase does not cause this issue. But I can't stomache kde, so... :)
[13:23] <saiarcot895> omniapro: You can probably add that line in /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.bin.vidalia instead of the main apparmor profile
[13:23] <ezra-s> LogiM, that's offtopic here
[13:23] <omniapro> saiarcot895 ok, I'm trying to do it!
[13:23] <k3n4n> ikonia: yes, but my browser cant open it
[13:23] <TJ-> hylian: Hmmm... compiz issue maybe?
[13:24] <ikonia> k3n4n: how are you trying to visit it ?
[13:24] <hylian> TJ-: well, if and when it happens again, I'll screen shoot it and bug it at launchpad. Thanks for the help.
[13:24] <Ari-Yang> when I remove an old kernel, everything related to that kernel is removed too right? like if I remove the kernel image if 3.5.0-17, the headers for it of the same version as that kernel (3.5.0-17) will be removed as well,yes?
[13:24] <marianne> Running 12.04 - question on uptime. I remember when it was a once a month thing to restart my 'puter, now it seems to be a once a week thing. How is everybody else looking in regards to uptime?
[13:24] <k3n4n> http://www.youtube.com/html5?hl=tr&gl=TR
[13:24] <hylian> TJ-: hmm, i'll have to check that, thanks TJ.
[13:24] <ikonia> k3n4n: did you click "join the html5 trial" ?
[13:25] <k3n4n> ok, now i try it
[13:26] <gkaklas> k3n4n, do other flash websites work?
[13:26] <Ari-Yang>  09:26:11 up 2 days, 11:20,  3 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.18, 0.16
[13:26] <ikonia> Ari-Yang: ?
[13:26] <TJ-> marianne: usually it is kernel updates that require restarts
[13:27] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, no, headers go separately in different packages, dpkg -l | grep linux-header
[13:27] <marianne> TJ: i did do an update this morning. yeah, I'm one of those that just clicks update all, so maybe that was it
[13:27] <k3n4n> gkaklas: yes
[13:27] <k3n4n> ikonia: yes i have now click on it
[13:28] <cornell> TJ-, the thing I'm not understanding is the ordering of it.  Reading the scripts, it seems that Ubuntu is handled first, then Windows, then Mint, but when the list is offered, Mint is first, then Ubuntu and then Windows.  I also note that there seems to be two pair of scripts of interest, 10-linux-proxy and 14-os-prober_proxy, followed by 90-linux-proxy and 90-os-prober_proxy.  Both pairs seem to be doing the same thing.  Could that be the problem, the redun
[13:28] <ikonia> k3n4n: come on !!! how do you expect to visit the html5 if you've not clicked on the "join html5" button
[13:28] <yossarianuk> what is the best way of doing SSD + RAID + TRIM at present? For Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:28] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, ah I see
[13:28] <omniapro> saiarcot895, in the post that you linked me, there's written that I have to add that line to that file, i have to add it in a specific position?
[13:28] <ikonia> yossarianuk: a true hardware controller,
[13:29] <ikonia> yossarianuk: no other way is wise
[13:29] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, so to remove an old kernel I have to purge the image and the header, correct?
[13:29] <TJ-> cornell: That may depend on *which* OS you last ran "sudo update-grub" from - if it was Mint, then I'd expect it to list it's entries first
[13:29] <saiarcot895> omniapro: no, anywhere
[13:29] <saiarcot895> omniapro: scratch that, within the braces
[13:29] <TJ-> cornell: but if Ubuntu, then /etc/grub.d/10_linux would get in there first
[13:30] <yossarianuk> ikonia: we have HP Smart Array RAID cards - they do not support TRIM..
[13:30] <k3n4n> ikonia: i have do it
[13:30] <papabur> python: can't open file 'skeinforge/skeinforge_application/skeinforge_utilities/skeinforge_craft.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[13:31] <ikonia> yossarianuk: yes, trim is a problem, but that's not going to change
[13:31] <cornell> Seems reasonably TJ-, that Mint would be first, I just want to change the order, Ubuntu's my primary, Mint, I'm checking out, and Windows is for the other half.
[13:31] <yossarianuk> ikonia: so should I just use no TRIM?
[13:31] <yossarianuk> and HWRAID
[13:31] <|Anthony|> i need to setup a cron script to transfer files (copy then delete) from a remote server to my local machine. I use ssh with RSA keys but i do have a passphrase. How can i accomplish this transfer via cron?
[13:31] <ikonia> yossarianuk: well, you certainly don't want to use software raid, especially for mirroring SSD's
[13:32] <TJ-> cornell: Presumably Mint and Ubuntu don't share their /etc/ directory so you'll have 2 separate installations to cope with. Get it right in one and only allow grub updates from that one
[13:32] <ehhh> ok i'm wondering one thing (if this is hardware related i can't send messages in ##hardware for some reason) i want to check the temperatures of my computer to determine whether it's safe to leave it running all the time or if i should occasionally switch it off, does anyone know how to check and what temperatures it should be running at before raising an eye? the side lid is off so it should be properly cooled anyway i think
[13:32] <PashaPasta> |Anthony|: that can be done with scp or sftp and spawn an expect to handle the passphrase
[13:33] <auronandace> !register | ehhh
[13:33] <ikonia> ehhh: this is for ##hardware
[13:33] <ikonia> ehhh: you need to register your account on freenode to use ##hardware
[13:33] <TJ-> !lm_sensors|ehhh
[13:34] <ehhh> can i change my nick later if i want to?
[13:34] <TJ-> !lmsensors|TJ-
[13:34] <|Anthony|> PashaPasta: "and spawn an expect to handle the passphrase" What does that mean?
[13:34] <PashaPasta> |Anthony|: or you could just remove the passphrase from your RSA key and script it out that way
[13:34] <ikonia> ehhh: #freenode can explain how the system works
[13:34] <TJ-> !lmsensors > ehhh
[13:34] <saiarcot895> !sensors
[13:34] <auronandace> ehhh: the point of registering a nick is so that its yours to use
[13:34] <cornell> TJ-.. of course.  Two different etc's.   mmmm, but when the machine first boots...  grub has to point to one.  Mint was last, so the boot process is set to point to Mint's... and I'm looking at Ubuntu's, and that's why things are screwy.  I need to boot into Mint and look at Mint's /boot and /etc.
[13:35] <Ari-Yang> I just found out about linux image extra, I'll remove that as well as the image and the headers
[13:35] <ehhh> thanks :)
[13:35] <PashaPasta> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26480/how-to-auto-type-password-for-scp-or-sftp-to-automate-it or http://www.thinkplexx.com/learn/howto/security/ssl/remove-passphrase-password-from-private-rsa-key
[13:35] <PashaPasta> up to you
[13:35] <|Anthony|> ah
[13:35] <cornell> I don't know if that solves my problem, TJ-, but it certainly indicates I'm looking for the solution in the wrong place.
[13:36] <cornell> Thanks much TJ-
[13:36] <TJ-> cornell: No, when the system boots the BIOS bootstraps GRUB which mounts the /boot/ file-system which contains /boot/grub/, which reads /boot/grub/grub.cfg and shows the menu. It doesn't know about a file-system that contains /etc/ until an OS is started and a root file-system mounted, unless /boot/ is part of one or other of the root file-systems
[13:36] <cornell> mmmm
[13:36] <cornell> Both os's use the same /boot?
[13:36] <TJ-> cornell: I'm so used to always installing /boot/ to a separate file-system I can't remember if Ubuntu does that by default nowadays!
[13:37] <LogiM> ikonia: yes
[13:37] <TJ-> cornell: One boot-loader, usually one /boot/ file-system, multiple root file-systems for each OS
[13:37] <cornell> Up to this week, I've only used two os's, Windows and Ubuntu... first time trying three.
[13:37] <ikonia> LogiM: you should talk to your hosting provider then as most of these are modified ubuntu builds - rather than standard
[13:38] <TJ-> When you get past three, its time for Xen virtual machine hypervisor!
[13:38] <LogiM> ikonia: tried that - finding out that they are pretty crapping - they're saying that basically it's self-managed so they're not interested
[13:39] <LogiM> it's running plesk 9.x
[13:39] <ikonia> LogiM: that can't be the case, as it's been updated,
[13:39] <ehhh> ok it's not above 25 degrees celcius so i'm guessing i'm safe
[13:39] <ikonia> LogiM: plesk is not part of ubuntu
[13:39] <cornell> TJ-, does that mean that you'd have multiple partitions, one, well two, for Windows, another for /boot, that both linuxes use, then another for the rest of Ubuntu and another for the rest of Mint?
[13:39] <LogiM> ikonia: I was just pointing out which custom build it is
[13:40] <AutumnSt> please
[13:40] <AutumnSt> please help
[13:40] <ikonia> LogiM: not really something this channel support, and plesk is not a custom build, it's just a managment front end
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !details|AutumnSt,
[13:40] <auronandace> cornell: if you are using the same /boot for muint and ubuntu expect something to break
[13:40] <AutumnSt> yeah, thanks, I was getting there
[13:40] <AutumnSt> I'm on 13.04 + chrome, and my youtube videos aren't working right
[13:40] <AutumnSt> they're running slightly fast
[13:40] <cornell> Speaking of which, TJ-, could I have one paritition for /home and mount it for Mint and Ubuntu?
[13:40] <AutumnSt> like 5%
[13:41] <TJ-> Well, I generally have 4 primary partitions: 1=/boot/ (512MB)  2=swap/hibernate (8GB) 3=Windows, 4=LVM
[13:41] <LogiM> ikonia: i'm thinking it should be possible to check how qmail is broke though, right?
[13:41] <gordonjcp> cornell: that will mostly work
[13:41] <TJ-> cornell: Yes, you could
[13:41] <ikonia> LogiM: qmail can only be run one way - check the life with qmail guide
[13:41] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, yes, correct
[13:41] <cornell> For what it's worth, I'll eventually get back to two.  I just want to check out Mint, and see if I prefer it.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> AutumnSt  try chromium, maybe it's better and it's in the repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[13:41] <TJ-> cornell: I use LVM LVs so I can move, resize, snapshot and everything else very easily later on
[13:41] <PashaPasta> mint is great
[13:42] <AutumnSt> MonkeyDust, from my understanding, chromium doesn't exist
[13:42] <AutumnSt> last time I went to grab it, all the chromium download links went to google chrome's official page
[13:42] <saiarcot895> AutumnSt: chromium is the open-source version of chrome
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> AutumnSt  true, it's chromium-browser
[13:42] <cfhowlett> AutumnSt, ??? chromium-browser works just fine and it's in the software center
[13:42] <cornell> Yeah, I really should get into LVM's, TJ-.
[13:42] <LogiM> ikonia: ok, but before i set out on this path, i just wanted to check - it's a reasonable approach right? i'm not wasting my time am i?
[13:42] <cornell> Thanks all.
[13:43] <cornell> Time for me to run.
[13:43] <cornell> TTFN
[13:43] <ikonia> LogiM: something is broken....and you think working out why its broken may be a waste of time ?
[13:43] <LogiM> ikonia: :) fair enough
[13:44] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, looks like the headers for the version I'm purging isn't even installed. I just ran dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 3.5.0-17 | awk -F' ' '{ print $2 }'
[13:44] <Ari-Yang>  and only image and image-extra is related. synaptic only says those 2 are installed as well and the headers aren't too, so that's good :T
[13:44] <omniapro> saiarcot895, in settings>advanced in vidalia at control tor what i've to put?
[13:45] <saiarcot895> omniapro: by default,it uses ControlSocket, and the config file and data directory should be somewhere in /etc and /var
[13:45] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, I'm sure you can be as precise with no errors with dpkg -l | grep linux-header
[13:45] <Xseven> Hey. I have a really annoying issue: on occasion, Firefox or other apps like Gimp, use up all my RAM and my box freezes completely. Is it possible to configure the OS to automatically execute `killall firefox` when remaining RAM is less than, say 100MB?
[13:45] <saiarcot895> omniapro: If you click Ok, are you getting an error saying that the ControlSocket doesn't exist?
[13:45] <omniapro> no
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, yeah, even dpkg -l | grep linux-header doesn't list headers for kernel 3.5.0-17
[13:46] <jrib>  Xseven what should happen when you run out of memory is that a process gets killed
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> I guess it was just removed then *shrugs*
[13:46] <saiarcot895> omniapro: You're not getting an error? In that case, try starting Tor
[13:46] <yossarianuk> ikonia: thanks for the info
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, I guess over a period of time of updating kernel, old headers are removed?
[13:46] <PashaPasta> Xseven: sounds like you have a leak somewhere
[13:46] <Xseven> jrib, right
[13:47] <Galaxor> If I'm looking to install ubuntu over a serial console, do I need the Alternate CD?
[13:48] <omniapro> wait cause i've tried to "sudo restart vidalia" so the config file is in /var/run/tor/control and now there's the error saying controlsocket doesn't exist
[13:49] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, I believe the behaviour has changed recently, earlier old kernels and headers were not removed, but I believe they are now...
[13:50] <Xseven> PashaPasta, I do see Firefox using more and more RAM as I use more and more websites.. maybe it's leaking, dunno, but if I could kill it when I run out of RAM, then this issue would be resolved for me.
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, right.
[13:50] <Xseven> As it reopens tabs from last time, and on restart uses less ram. I just got my whole box knocked down by vising Google Analytics page :/
[13:51] <PashaPasta> Xseven: you could try using ulimit to limit the amount of RAM firefox is using
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> Galaxor  better ask in #ubuntu-server -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[13:52] <TJ-> Galaxor: you can use Alternate, or the minimal (net-boot) if there's ethernet connectivity too. You'd have to add options to the kernel's command-line as soon as the installer starts of course
[13:52] <saiarcot895> omniapro: try closing out Vidalia, do "sudo service restart tor", and then open Vidalia
[13:52] <saiarcot895> omniapro: I mean fully closing Vidalia
[13:53] <Xseven> PashaPasta, I'll give that a try. Thanks.
[13:53] <Galaxor> TJ-: You mean, when I boot up, I'll have to add stuff on the grub command line before booting?
[13:54] <Galaxor> TJ-: Does grub work over the serial console?
[13:54] <omniapro> ok there's no error about control socket now
[13:54] <omniapro> but there's even the error: Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to make sure you specified the correct name and location for the executable Tor.
[13:54] <TJ-> Galaxor: I believe so, I don't recall seeing anything there by default - it'd need grub set-up to use a serial console, and the kernel console=ttyS0 etc
[13:54] <saiarcot895> omniapro: after you start tor through terminal? Hmmm
[13:54] <lolyou> loooo
[13:55] <omniapro> yes i'm gonna crazy!! even the same error i've tried about everything
[13:56] <TJ-> Galaxor: Does the motherboard BIOS support serial console ?
[13:56] <Galaxor> TJ-: Hm.  I'm trying to install ubuntu in a virtualbox vm, and I only have ssh access to the host machine (not physical access)
[13:56] <Galaxor> TJ-: motherboard bios = virtualbox.
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, success, removed selected old kernels :3
[13:57] <TJ-> Galaxor: OK, well, you can access the console via the VM. Never used VirtualBox; I use QEMU/KVM, libvirt and Xen extensively though
[13:57] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, about time...
[13:57] <saiarcot895> omniapro: Can you open your Home folder, show hidden files (ctrl-h to do this), and scroll down till you see .tor and/or .vidalia?
[13:57] <TJ-> Galaxor: And as you're starting a VM I assume you can also 'edit' the boot ISO image so that GRUB and the kernel know to use the serial console
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, lol xD (I was multi-tasking :b)
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> thanks for telling me those list commands
[13:58] <saiarcot895> omniapro: wait, when you first installed tor, did you add yourself to the debian-tor group?
[13:58] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, one has to look a compromise between fashionable and practical, sometimes the ideal way of doing things or finding about it is not practical in a timely fashion, the answer I gave you fills the gap in one minute.. yet you spent... 30 minutes seeking for alternatives
[13:59] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, in any case, congrats ;)
[13:59] <Galaxor> TJ-: Hm.  I suppose I could edit the iso.  I was hoping that the alternate install already had grub configured to work over the serial console, though.  That way I don't have to figure out how to do it.
[13:59] <omniapro> well I can see both the folder but no i didn't add myself to debian.tor group
[13:59] <bmxscott1993> #MakeUseOf
[14:00] <saiarcot895> omniapro: That would be at least half of the problem
[14:00] <TJ-> Galaxor: What I did - for PXE boots on my network - is explode the ISO into directories precisely so I could add serial console entries for testing
[14:00] <saiarcot895> omniapro: run "sudo usermod <userName> -a -G debian-tor
[14:00] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, but it took me 5min. to find an alternative (found some kernel removing scripts), and it took me 1min to remove the kernel I wanted to remove. My multi-tasking had nothing to do with me searching for alternatives, was reading articles >__>
[14:00] <TJ-> Galaxor: You can mostly work from this in regrds to GRUB  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[14:01] <Ari-Yang> but yeah, thanks again :>
[14:01] <Galaxor> TJ-: Thanks.
[14:03] <omniapro> ok i do it now?
[14:03] <saiarcot895> omniapro: Yes, try starting Tor from "sudo service restart tor", and then open Vidalia
[14:04] <TJ-> saiarcot895: omniapro That should be "sudo service tor restart"
[14:04] <saiarcot895> TJ-: thanks, my bad
[14:04] <omniapro> yes i know that command but again same error
[14:05] <TJ-> omniapro: When in doubt, check the logs in /var/log/ - First thing I do when an issue occurs is look to see which log file(s) were updated last, with "ls -latr /var/log/"
[14:07] <omniapro> -rw-r-----  1 syslog            adm    50469 giu 27 16:06 auth.log
[14:07] <omniapro> -rw-r-----  1 syslog            adm   281901 giu 27 16:06 syslog
[14:07] <omniapro> -rw-r-----  1 syslog            adm   161437 giu 27 16:06 kern.log
[14:07] <omniapro> last 3 logs file updated
[14:09] <saiarcot895> omniapro: from what I can tell, tor stores its logs in /var/log/tor/log
[14:10] <saiarcot895> omniapro: try tail /var/log/tor/log, and paste the output to pastebin
[14:13] <k3n4n> i can not play flash videos, what can i do? i have ubuntu studio13.04 and firefox
[14:15] <linuxmania> Hi i need help regarding compiz tool
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> k3n4n: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[14:16] <linuxmania> when i use Compiz my minimizing and cross Bar Disappear
[14:16] <k3n4n> No LSB modules are available.
[14:16] <k3n4n> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[14:16] <k3n4n> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[14:16] <k3n4n> Release:	12.04
[14:16] <k3n4n> Codename:	precise
[14:16] <k3n4n> Linux K3n4n-Vostro-1015 3.2.0-48-lowlatency #50-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 8 16:00:47 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:16] <FloodBot1> k3n4n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <linuxmania> No help :(
[14:18] <k3n4n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804837/
[14:20] <adamk> k3n4n: In your browser, does 'about:plugins' in the location bar show the flash plugin?
[14:20] <yossarianuk> k3n4n: try 'sudo apt-get install lsb-base lsb-release'
[14:20] <dhci> When I run sensors I see that my NB and SB temperatures (north bridge and south bridge) have gone beyond the high threshold, approaching about 54 deg C -- also my power supply seems to have risen in temperature too, where as before a 750w supply felt like the system was lightly loading it now it seems like it is doing more work. is the motherboard shot?
[14:22] <jmagder> Anyone here running bumblebee with an external monitor? :)
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> jmagder, You need to state the actual problem for help.
[14:23] <jmagder> wilee-nilee: Ok, no problem.  Here it goes.
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[14:23] <Pici> dhci: That might be a better question for ##hardware
[14:24] <jmagder> I'm running bumblebee on a W520. Almost everything works.  Yay!
[14:24] <jmagder> The problem is that I want my external monitor to be my 'primary' desktop.
[14:24] <jmagder> I've been running: xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary --auto --output VIRTUAL --mode 1920x1080 --right-of LVDS1
[14:24] <jmagder> to turn on the external monitor.
[14:25] <jmagder> The --primary switch doesn't seem to do anything however.  I figure I'm doing something wrong.
[14:29] <linuxmania> helloo any one can Help me here regarding Compiz
[14:29] <reisio> nope, but some people could
[14:29] <linuxmania> and those some ppl are ??
[14:29] <wilee-nilee> !ask > Linux38025
[14:29] <wilee-nilee> !ask > linuxmania
[14:30] <linuxmania> wilee my Compiz disappears my Minimizing and maximizing bar
[14:31] <wilee-nilee> linuxmania, Tell the channel not me, I was just pointing out stating the problem for the channel is the norm. ;)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> linuxmania: on top of each window?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> linuxmania: its called a 'Window decorator'
[14:31] <linuxmania> Yes on every window
[14:32] <xinyu> hi all
[14:33] <linuxmania> problem is still there after i checked The Decorator
[14:34] <reisio> xinyu: hi
[14:36] <linuxmania> where are the Red dudes O_O
[14:36] <reisio> ->
[14:38] <roSievers> Hi, I accidentally pulled the plug on my running backup (Déjà Dup), now it complains about (translated from german): “critical error: The Manifest in the backend does not match the local one. Either ...” - How do I tell déjà dup it to fix the backend?
[14:39] <roSievers> To be precise, starting a new backup leads to this error
[14:39] <Ari-Yang> is it possible to set specific frequency for the gpu instead of using the power_profile ("low","mid","high","auto","default") in /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile ?
[14:39] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:39] <Ari-Yang> I'm currently set to "mid" but I have a light lag on some webpages..
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibitedi cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <FloodBot1> ghar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <wilee-nilee> welcome to ignore ghar
[14:40] <ghar> thanks wilee
[14:40] <Ari-Yang> !tmi
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> you to
[14:41] <ghar> does anybody know the issue... i tried with disk utility and even with gpated
[14:41] <ghar> *gparted
[14:42] <ghar> but cannot delete partition and cannot format the drive
[14:42] <ghar> it says daemon is inhibited...
[14:42] <ghar> anyone help...
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> ghar, be patient, if someone knows and offers his/her help, you will get it.
[14:43] <PashaPasta> ghar: sudo killall udisks   run that in terminal and you should be good go
[14:44] <laseind> un distro o programa bueno para rastreat contraseñas wifi??
[14:44] <reisio> ghar: or maybe just open your file manager and make sure it's not mounted
[14:44] <laseind> que funcione...?
[14:44] <reisio> laseind: #ubuntu-es
[14:44] <ghar> tnx pashapasta
[14:44] <reisio> laseind: networkmanager
[14:44] <Ari-Yang> oh, I should mention my current MHz of my gpu (at least I think it's my gpu) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dDYmh4Xk
[14:44] <PashaPasta> laseind: wicd
[14:45] <caelan> Hello!
[14:45] <Ari-Yang> that the power_profiler being set to mid)
[14:45] <laseind> para sacarle la contraseña a mi vecino=?
[14:45] <ikonia> Ari-Yang: who are you telling this informaiton to and why ?
[14:45] <PashaPasta> en ingles?
[14:45] <Pici> !es | laseind
[14:45] <reisio> laseind: oh, heheh
[14:45] <reisio> laseind: I doubt that's allowed here :p
[14:45] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, just throwing it out there, I asked a question earlier: "is it possible to set specific frequency for the gpu instead of using the power_profile ("low","mid","high","auto","default") in /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile?"
[14:45] <laseind> ok thanks..
[14:46] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, my question got lost in the chat >__>
[14:46] <caelan> I'm having a problem with ALSA right now. I have an Asus Xonar DG sound card, and I just cannot get the front panel ports to work. I have checked everywhere online for a solution, but I have come to no solution. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!
[14:46] <laseind> i need a distro to hack wifi, that works!!!
[14:46] <PashaPasta> laseind: what you are looking for is aircrack-ng but you should only use that for testing your own wifi of course ;)
[14:46] <ikonia> laseind: you need to not ask in here
[14:46] <laseind> thanks......
[14:46] <PashaPasta> use Kali linux
[14:46] <xx> how do i know which network card i have?
[14:46] <xx> does nayone have a command line?
[14:47] <caelan> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 BTW.
[14:47] <laseind> iw config
[14:47] <ikonia> that won't show you your card model
[14:47] <auronandace> xx: lspci
[14:48] <caelan> And if this is any help, I hear a slight pop when I select to correct device to use in the "Sound" section in "Settings". That leads me to believe something is happening. But no sound is coming from any source.
[14:48] <reisio> xx: sudo lspci | grep -i net
[14:49] <xx> thanks auronandace and reisio <3
[14:49] <TJ-> xx: "lspci -nn | egrep -i '(ether|net|wireless)'"
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> xx: sudo lshw -C network
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ^ easier
[14:50] <reisio> xx: lspci should suffice :p
[14:50] <xx> lol i got it guys
[14:50] <xx> thanks a lot <3
[14:51] <caelan> Can anybody help with my problem? Thanks in advance.
[14:51] <reisio> caelan: nope, but some people can...
[14:51] <reisio> ...if you say what it is
[14:51] <caelan> I have already... "I'm having a problem with ALSA right now. I have an Asus Xonar DG sound card, and I just cannot get the front panel ports to work. I have checked everywhere online for a solution, but I have come to no solution. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!"
[14:51] <caelan> "And if this is any help, I hear a slight pop when I select to correct device to use in the "Sound" section in "Settings". That leads me to believe something is happening. But no sound is coming from any source."
[14:52] <caelan> And I am using Ubuntu 13.04
[14:52] <reisio> caelan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[14:52] <reisio> caelan: try different model values until it works
[14:52] <TJ-> caelan: Do the ports physically work?
[14:52] <reisio> caelan: ahem, assuming it uses that driver, that is :)
[14:52] <caelan> reisio: OK, I'll give it a go. So basically, you are saying to try a different driver?
[14:53] <reisio> caelan: no I'm saying if your box uses that particular audio driver, read that page and try different model values
[14:53] <caelan> TJ: yes, the ports work fine on Windows.
[14:53] <TJ-> caelan: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/919809
[14:54] <caelan> reisio: I'll give it a go.
[14:54] <caelan> ubottu: OK, So that means they haven't fixed it?
[14:54] <caelan> OK.
[14:55] <reisio> caelan: not exactly, it means nobody aware of that bug who has potentially figured out how to fix it has said how :p
[14:57] <caelan> Really? It's been over a year, and they haven't fixed it?
[14:57] <reisio> caelan: is that so surprising?
[14:57] <ezra-s> lol
[14:57] <reisio> nobody is paying these people
[14:58] <reisio> and there are probably superior cards that already just work
[14:58] <reisio> if you want to complain to someone, complain to the xonar people, whoever they are
[14:58] <reisio> or just take your lumps and choose hardware more wisely next time :)
[15:04] <caelan> That was no queue to have a go at me. I was not moaning about them. I understand fully, and I appreciate that these people do this for free. But I've just seen bugs like this fixed much faster.
[15:05] <caelan> reisio: ^
[15:05] <reisio> just saying
[15:06] <reisio> bugs get fixed by people who are affected by them who are willing to do the work
[15:07] <xx> how do i enable proprietary drivers?
[15:08] <reisio> xx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[15:09] <TJ-> caelan: If you check the Alsa web-site you'll see that the developer of the snd-oxygen driver (Clemens Ladisch) for the C-Media CMI8788 APU sound chipset, has a ToDo that hasn't been updated since April 2012. That indicates he has moved on to other interests.
[15:10] <caelan> TJ-: OK, Thanks. for the info.
[15:10] <xx> reisio: i meant network drivers
[15:12] <adamk> xx: What makes you think you there is a proprietary driver availalbe?  If there were one packaged for Ubuntu, you should have been told of it's availability.
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> xx, go to "Additional Drivers" tab in software sources (or search for the option, not sure if you're on 12.04 or greater) and see if you see a wifi driver
[15:15] <Ari-Yang> if you don't see any, then there isn't any I guess...
[15:16] <TJ-> caelan: This is the latest ALSA driver history I can find:  http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/oxygen/xonar_dg.c;h=77acd790ea4796b94c779fd72c1a8be861c4aa9e;hb=HEAD
[15:17] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi, I'm getting some strange output when running "apt-cache show kde-runtime | grep -i version"... It shows that I have 4 versions of kde... the output: http://pastebin.com/TiNQG9Kp
[15:18] <Safa_[A_boy]> I removed the Kubuntu ppa from my sources...  but it still like this :(
[15:18] <Safa_[A_boy]> any idea?
[15:18] <holstein> Safa_[A_boy]: kubuntu testing ppa?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: did you use ppa-purge to remove it?
[15:18] <Safa_[A_boy]> I want to have 4.8 only
[15:19] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, last time, yes
[15:19] <irreverant> Is Blackbuntu any good?
[15:19] <Safa_[A_boy]> holstein, The kubuntu ppa, I don't know :|
[15:20]  * Safa_[A_boy] gone for a while
[15:20] <holstein> irreverant: i dont know what it is, but "good" is a matter of opinion, and only official derivitives are supported here.. id see if they have a live CD
[15:20] <irreverant> holstein: http://www.blackbuntu.com/
[15:21] <holstein> irreverant: sure.. and that, again, is not supported here.. feel free and link that in the offtopic channel
[15:21] <irreverant> holstein: ok.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: its also not supported here
[15:24] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any google talk application for ubutnu?
[15:24] <irreverant> ActionParsnip: I realize that, i was trying to find a version of Ubuntu that is a good network penetration tool.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: see what it comes with, see if it suits your needs
[15:24] <TJ-> Safa_[A_boy]: Try "apt-cache policy kde-runtime" and you'll see the explanation
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: http://www.ubuntututorials.com/install-google-talk-ubuntu-12-04/
[15:25] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Does it work for ubuntu 13.04?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w1NHTthcjg
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: can't imagine its massively different
[15:25] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I'm puzzled as to why my upstart job isn't sending an email on shutdown
[15:25] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: not something I use
[15:26] <TJ-> SwashBuckla: The mail server has already been stopped?
[15:26] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Isn't it a good thing?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: no idea. I have no need for it
[15:30] <wincide> hola, alguien sabria decirme como copiar archivos con extension xxx que estan distribuidos en una estructura de directorios , de manera recursiva en otro directorio ? Estoy probando cp -Rav  *.xxx /almacen/  pero solo me copia el primero, y hay muchos
[15:31] <chaotix> heyy...   anyone know how you type to talk to the other players in OPENARENA?
[15:31] <DJones> !es | wincide
[15:31] <chaotix> what button needsw to be pushed before one can type in openarena?
[15:31] <irreverant> I can translate for wincide
[15:31] <irreverant> Hola Wincide:
[15:31] <wincide> all right
[15:31] <wincide> sorry
[15:32] <irreverant> oh maybe he speaks english
[15:32] <wincide> im trying to copy recursively a type of files into another directory , just filtering by extension, but only first one is copied
[15:32] <irreverant> he's asking if someone knows how to copy ....
[15:32] <irreverant> ^
[15:33] <wincide> im trying cp -Rav  *.xxx /almacen/  where in my pwd are lot of subdirectories and name.xxx files ,
[15:35] <wincide> irreverant, thanks, actually im trying to copy recursively an exclusive type of files with a defined extension, lets imagine xxx files , so im using cp -R -a -v *.xxx /target_dir/
[15:36] <Josh____> Hello sirs
[15:36] <SpyClub> @wincide have you tried using the find command find -iname "*.xxx" -exec cp {} /target_dir/ ?
[15:37] <SpyClub> wincide: or even rsync to maintain the directory heirachy?
[15:37] <reisio> Josh____: hi
[15:38] <wincide> rsync is a right choice .. i think is something related with the * xD .. even ls -R *.xxx | wc -l to count these files is not working
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> grsync is a nice gui to rsyc if you have a desktop OS
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> but learning rsync is useful
[15:40] <reisio> all that GUI code, all that potential to introduce bugs
[15:41] <SpyClub> wincide: checkout http://serverfault.com/questions/150269/complex-includes-excludes-with-rsync
[15:41] <lolyou> lo
[15:42] <SpyClub> wincide: and --dry-run is useful if the files are large
[15:44] <Jellyg00se> Hi there! I've just got my lappy and the fn key is enabled by default (my f12 button turns on/off my wireless rather than using the f12 key) any tips on how I can reverse this would be appreciated :)
[15:44] <wincide> im trying  rsync -var *.vsd /almacen/MapasRed/ but doesnt work , anyway im checking manuals
[15:45] <vlt> wincide: -r is part of -a
[15:45] <vlt> wincide: But it should work anyway.
[15:45] <vlt> wincide: What do you expect and what happens instead?
[15:46] <SpyClub> wincide: rsync -av --filter='+ *.vsd' /sourcedir/ /targetdir/
[15:47] <SpyClub> wincide: not sure if that will work...
[15:47] <wincide> i expect a copy , and not an error  :) rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1070) [sender=3.0.9]
[15:47] <litropy> Hi, all. My wifi card is borking. I'm trying very hard to figure out what's going on. Is there another, more detailed log I can look at other than syslog?
[15:49] <SpyClub> wincide: just tested, command works fine on my machine
[15:49] <litropy> Or is syslog the most verbose?
[15:50] <wincide> SpyClub,  lets try ;)
[15:50] <Wang_Dickman> CAN I SELL UBUNTU LOCALLY? I SOLD 6 COPIES AND MADE 360$
[15:50] <SpyClub> wincide: just realised it copied everything, oops, i'll try again :(
[15:50] <Wang_Dickman> CAN I SELL UBUNTU LOCALLY? I SOLD 6 COPIES AND MADE 360$
[15:51] <wincide> not working
[15:51] <irreverant> I think that's againt the GNU licensing
[15:51] <Wang_Dickman> CAN I SELL UBUNTU LOCALLY? I SOLD 6 COPIES AND MADE 360$
[15:51] <wincide> this is copying everything , not only *.vsd :)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Wang_Dickman: kill the caps
[15:52] <Wang_Dickman> CAPS DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG BITCH
[15:52] <jbroome> Wang_Dickman: enough please
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !caps | wan
[15:52] <jbroome> see, told you. :)
[15:52] <Teh_Bucket> accidentily updated from 10.04 to 12.04, switched the desktop to gnome classic as best as i could, and now navigation commands like alt-tab and workspace switching don't work at all.
[15:53] <jbroome> ActionParsnip: had the tab complete pulled out from under you. :)
[15:53] <irreverant> Wang_Dickman: you want help, please be considerate. you can get your question answered just be respectful
[15:53] <Teh_Bucket> any ideas? the only thing i found was to restart a few times, which didn't change anything
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> jbroome: yeah, HP 6570b keyvoard is a bit crappy
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Bucket: are you using compiz as the WM?
[15:53] <Teh_Bucket> i have compiz running, yes
[15:54] <SpyClub> wincide: finally got it...
[15:54] <Teh_Bucket> not exactly sure how that works though..
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Bucket: then set the ALT+Tab stuff in ccsm
[15:54] <SpyClub> wincide: rsync -av --include '*/' --include '*.bmp' --exclude '*' source/ destination/
[15:54] <Teh_Bucket> k
[15:54] <SpyClub> wincide: you need to tell it to include directories and the specific extension, exclude all other files
[15:55] <Teh_Bucket> aha! ActionParsnip thank you very much.
[15:55] <wincide> thanks :)
[15:55] <SpyClub> wincide: your welcome :)
[15:56] <Safa_[A_boy]> TJ-, :)
[15:56] <Safa_[A_boy]> 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 0
[15:56] <Safa_[A_boy]>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:58] <pratz> Hello guys
[15:58] <pratz> I have a .avi file but it does not play with vlc nor with smplayer
[15:58] <pratz> I have even installed ubuntu extra packages
[15:59] <pratz> Do I need to restart the machine after installing the ubuntu extra's ?
[15:59] <SpyClub> pratz: have you tried installing "sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-52"
[15:59] <SpyClub> pratz: you should not need to reboot
[16:00] <pratz> SpyClub: here is the text file with the video https://dpaste.de/L9O8T/
[16:01] <wincide> SpyClub, it works! its a sh*tty backup i have to make , thanks a lot
[16:01] <pratz> SpyClub: libavcodec-extra-53 - this is already installed
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> pratz: you will need to close the media players, thats all
[16:01] <SpyClub> pratz: I don't think I did anything, but no problem :P
[16:02] <pratz> ActionParsnip: sorry, not working still
[16:02] <das> Hi. Anyone aware of patches to simplify the output of make ? I'm talking color/indent
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> pratz: what messages or such like do you see
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> prasimply sayin 'doesn't work' doesnt help anyone
[16:03] <SpyClub> pratz: I trpically pass things into a more linux friendly format with FFmpeg...
[16:05] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! Two users use Xorg. A local and a XDMCP. NTFS unities are mounted for user. Exclusive.
[16:05] <AlexandreMBM> Can I make another mount point for the user two?
[16:09] <shankstaBytes> would my system be faster if i loaded my kernel as a ram disk?
[16:10] <yofun> hello  i am runnig ubuntu 13.04 and i want to edit my /etc/resolv.conf to have public root servers ( http://inaic.com/index.php?p=public-internet-access ) but i noticed the file says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN" So how do i edit the file?
[16:11] <SpyClub> youfun: checkout http://askubuntu.com/questions/239169/how-to-edit-etc-resolv-conf-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:11] <chersen> hey all
[16:11] <SpyClub> yofun: I believe 13.04 does it in the same way was 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/239169/how-to-edit-etc-resolv-conf-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:11] <Martinjo84> What shall i call my shop, selling preinstall ubuntu machine? :D
[16:12] <yofun> SpyClub:  thanks for the link. will look into it
[16:12] <ooshlablu> hey all, I'm looking for help with a strangeish problem with preseed
[16:13] <SpyClub> yofun: let me know if it works
[16:13] <yofun> k
[16:13] <chersen> can anyone help me with setting up my email? i know how to configure it in outlook but im a bit of a noob to linux...
[16:13] <ooshlablu> basically, everything works fine, unless I provision a machine that has some disks that were formerly part of a raid set
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> yofun: add to the bottom of /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:14] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  theres nothing in it :P other then the warning not to edit by hand
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> yofun: that file is usd to generate the header in /etc/resolv.conf so if you add nameserver lines in the head file, it will always be added and supercede dhcp given dns servers
[16:14] <yofun> ah ok
[16:14] <rypervenche> chersen: Sure. Where do you have your email service?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> yofun: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[16:14] <ooshlablu> meaning that most of the disks are new and like 2 were part of a raid set. Basically the installer freaks out when trying to build a new one, and creates a weird md127
[16:14] <rypervenche> chersen: gmail? yahoo? etc.
[16:14] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You probably need to zero the metadata block(s). What did the disks have on them previously?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> yofun: its a hack but it works well
[16:15] <chersen> exchange
[16:15] <yofun> lol what did that do?
[16:15] <ooshlablu> Tj: is there a way to tell preseed to blow away the disks regardless of what was on them?
[16:15] <yofun> oh
[16:15] <chersen> im at my company and this is the only thing holding me back from using linux all the time
[16:15] <yofun> it added 8.8.8.8 to the file
[16:16] <rypervenche> chersen: I understand. My company does the same thing. Luckily, they provide us with IMAP and SMTP access to the exchange mail server, so I can use my personal mail client.
[16:16] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  restart networking service or?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> yofun: yes, now each time you reboot, that will be aded to the resolv.conf file as well as the header you see
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> yofun: you can manually write to /etc/resolv.conf now if you like, same difference
[16:16] <rypervenche> chersen: If you can find out if there are SMTP and IMAP services running, you can run thunderbird or claws-mail or something else. Otherwise I believe thunderbird can support exchange....I think?
[16:16] <chersen> ah ok. yea im not sure what we are using, but i know how it's configured in outlook but can't seem to translate that into kmail/thunderbird/evolution
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> yofun: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[16:17] <rypervenche> chersen: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smbit/connect-the-thunderbird-email-client-to-your-exchange-server/1130
[16:17] <chersen> yea i was trying to figure that out bc that would probably help :P lol
[16:17] <chersen> oh cool thanks!
[16:18] <rypervenche> chersen: I personally refuse to use the exchagne protocol. I use IMAP and SMTP that is provided. You will need to ask your work about that if you plan on doing the same.
[16:18] <chersen> ok. should i just ask if they can enable that or something?
[16:18] <chersen> (thanks for the help. still trying to figure everything out)
[16:19] <ooshlablu> Tj: yeah, zeroing out the metadata works. I'm wondering if there is some way to make the installed do it before it gets to partitioning. I'm looking to create a system where users can choose from multiple configs and get their machines 'automagically', and those configs can range from lvm to md raid, to a flat fs with a bunch of spare disks.
[16:19] <ooshlablu> installer*
[16:19] <rypervenche> chersen: You can ask them if they have IMAP and SMTP enabled, and if not if they can enable it for you.
[16:19] <chersen> ah gotcha
[16:20] <columb> How do I test server connection speed? I can't test 100mb/s with my home ~10mb/s internets.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> columb: downlod a large file off it using wget is one way
[16:20] <columb> ActionParsnip from where I can download it?
[16:21] <chersen> alright ill work on it for a bit. thanks rypervenche! ^^
[16:21] <TJ-> ooshlablu: I'd say a script to pre-clear the disks that does "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/$DISK"
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> columb: the web somewhere, download the ubuntu insall DVD, plent of time to hit full speed
[16:21] <rypervenche> chersen: My work didn't advertise the IMAP/SMTP addresses, but they already existed after asking around a bit.
[16:23] <chersen> oh ok. yea maybe it's already there...i was trying to use imap/smtp settings when setting up the account (different variations on our domain/server names) but nothing seemed to work
[16:23] <ogulmus> test
[16:24] <DylanCl> Is anybody here good with FFMPEG/Avconv? (for streaming)
[16:27] <ooshlablu> Tj; I think I found what I was looking for: preseed/early_command
[16:27] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, I recommend you just state your problem
[16:27] <ogulmus>  #ubuntu-tr
[16:28] <tharkun> Good $(date +%p) I need to install the openldap ubuntu package on a debian server. It is obvious that downloading the .deb package is by no means recomended. The sane course of action is to download the source package of ubuntu and compile it under debian. First question What would be the best way to download the source package?
[16:28] <DylanCl> Ari-Yang: I can't really state my problem. You have to look at it in order to know what the problem is and I can only do that by streaming
[16:29] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You'll need to ensure mdadm and all its dependencies are installed, unless you do something clever with 'dd'
[16:29] <blizzow> I have a wireless client that keeps bouncing to different wireless access points in my wifi network.  It won't stay associated with the nearest access point.  Is there a way I can configure the network manager to access only particular access points?
[16:29] <zero2XIII> DylanCl: Try and describe your problem?
[16:29] <BAMbanda> How can I tell if my system is Linux x86_64 or Linux i686?
[16:29] <zero2XIII> BAMbanda: uname -a
[16:30] <BAMbanda> thanks
[16:30] <DylanCl> zero2XIII: Well, while playing a game (minecraft) the quality is terrible and it keeps rolling back
[16:30] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You might find "d-i partman/early_command" a more appropriate hook
[16:30] <zero2XIII> DylanCl: do you have any type of graphical drivers installed?
[16:31] <ooshlablu> TJ: yeah, was just gonna do with dd and see how that works, I know its included in the initramfs we use for PXE. Yeah, might try that one
[16:31] <DylanCl> zero2XIII: I think so...if I don't, how can i play games? :P
[16:31] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You'd need to know where the metadata superblocks are, though, that's the thorny bit
[16:32] <khorchani> hi
[16:32] <TJ-> ooshlablu: Which is why I think doing it as soon as the disks enter the spare pool is a better approach
[16:33] <zero2XIII> DylanCl: well, ubuntu do come with opensource drivers, I meant did you install proprietary drivers? What graphics card are you using
[16:33] <ooshlablu> Tj; yeah, I could probably just run mkfs.ext2 on all the disks just to make sure they're clear. the Preseed works fine with anything other than md raid or lvm
[16:33] <DylanCl> Intel® Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[16:33] <yofun> what is 8.8.8.8?
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, what ubuntu version are you on?
[16:34] <DylanCl> 13.04
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, go to Additional Drivers tab under software sources
[16:34] <zero2XIII> yofun: that is the Google DNS server's IP adress
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> and see if there are any proprietary drivers there
[16:34] <yofun> ah
[16:34] <sb7597> yofun: Google public DNS?
[16:35] <yofun> does ubuntu run its own local nameserver or something?
[16:35] <zero2XIII> yofun: the other one I know of is 8.8.6.6, and yes sb7597 the public dns servers
[16:35] <yofun> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[16:35] <yofun> does that mean ubuntu runs it own nameserver too?
[16:36] <DylanCl> Where can I find Software Sources
[16:36] <yofun> zero2XIII:  so if i add 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.6.6 i should be able to access internet2?
[16:36] <darkhelmet> first time ubuntu user
[16:36] <darkhelmet> i'm on 12.04
[16:36] <Ari-Yang> ....dylancl it's a /section/ in system settings. just search for it
[16:36] <darkhelmet> trying to get the right click open in terminal action going
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> or if you're on Unity DylanCl, you can hit the dash board and search for software soruces there
[16:37] <darkhelmet> i've downloaded the natulis open thing
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> s/soruces/sources
[16:37] <darkhelmet> still can't get it
[16:37] <zero2XIII> yofun: yes, if you add them as DNS servers, but first try and access this: http://74.125.233.80
[16:37] <DylanCl> Ari-Yang: no software sources :/
[16:37] <yofun> zero2XIII:  that ip works. it goes to google
[16:38] <zero2XIII> yofun: awesome, then yes, just add 8.8.8.8 primary and 8.8.6.6 secondary as DNS servers and it should work
[16:38] <yofun> zero2XIII:  add them to /etc/resolv.conf as nameservers or?
[16:38] <yofun> thats what i been reading
[16:38] <zero2XIII> yofun: so you are not sure how to do that?
[16:39] <yofun> nope could you explain or give me a wiki link?
[16:39] <nonickname> hi all ubuntu users
[16:39] <Kleber> hi
[16:39] <khorchani> hi
[16:39] <yofun> zero2XIII:  nope could you explain or give me a wiki link?
[16:39] <zero2XIII> yofun: please use my name in your messages so it is highlighted :). And sure, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:39] <nonickname> hello :]
[16:39] <hadifarnoud> how can I bulk add iptables rules? rule is the same just IP is different
[16:40] <yofun> zero2XIII:  13.04
[16:41] <zero2XIII> yofun: oka open up a terminal and type: "sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf"
[16:41] <yofun> zero2XIII:  yep im already there ;P
[16:41] <yofun> nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 127.0.1.1 search att.net
[16:41] <blazemore> Something is causing a bell in the terminal every time there's any message in any channel
[16:41] <zero2XIII> yofun: simply add a line "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[16:42] <yofun> is what i have right now
[16:42] <blazemore> wc
[16:42] <heartless> wc
[16:42] <emigdio> Good Day o/, I am new to Linux, installed the latest version of ubuntu, installed NetBeans to start programing a voila, the designer is stuck in Loading in the main Form any way to fix this?
[16:42] <yofun> zero2XIII:  nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 127.0.1.1 search att.net   is what i have right now
[16:42] <zero2XIII> yofun: they need to be underneath each other
[16:42] <HelloWorld321> I'm tying the example from the wget manual, but in the case of my target website, the login is an email address, so would there be any escaping needed for the --post-data paramters?
[16:42] <HelloWorld321> wget --save-cookies cookies.txt --post-data 'user=foo@foo.com&password=bar'  http://server.com/auth.php
[16:42] <yofun> zero2XIII:  they are. kvIRC sends it as one line
[16:42] <digs> So, my vsftp tls, fully encrypted log in's were working fine yesterday. Today, they don't.
[16:42] <digs> I can't figure out whats wrong.
[16:43] <zero2XIII> yofun: Oh oka, and you still do not have internet?
[16:43] <Kleber> I'm a dummie in Linux
[16:43] <digs> I get...  SSL3_GET_RECORD wrong version number
[16:43] <yofun> zero2XIII:  http://inaic.com/index.php?p=public-internet-access test gives me a error
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, then just google "additional drivers" in 13.04
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[16:44] <zero2XIII> yofun: give me a sec
[16:44] <yofun> DylanCl:  i belive its under settings in software and updates
[16:45] <DylanCl> No proprietary drivers are in use.
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, do you see any listed?
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> if you don't, then there aren't any
[16:46] <DylanCl> Nope, none are listed
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> (for your card)
[16:46] <zero2XIII> yofun: that is something completely different, they are basically a DNS, so you need to add their IP adress to the list
[16:46] <zero2XIII> yofun: http://inaic.com/index.php?p=linux-upgrade
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> yeah DylanCl, you're stuck with open source ones it looks like. fear not http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81666-AMD-Has-Massive-Radeon-Patch-Set-Power-Management!#post338568
[16:47] <DylanCl> I don't have an AMD card tho
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> ah
[16:47] <yofun> so zero2XIII copy and paste step 2? (making a backup of the old file of course)
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, type lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> what do you get?
[16:48] <yofun> step 3*
[16:48] <DylanCl> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[16:48] <zero2XIII> yofun: yes, and then adding (or changing 8.8.8.8 to) 84.22.106.30 and 84.22.100.9
[16:49] <zero2XIII> yofun: step 3 is an example output of a resolv.conf file
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, you can google proprietary drivers for that card to see if there are available. Just be careful though, you could risk breaking something; good luck.
[16:51] <usuario_> hay alguien ahi
[16:51] <DJones> !es | usuario_
[16:51] <usuario_> necesito ayuda
[16:52] <usuario_> thankyou
[16:52] <yofun> zero2XIII:  i erased the whole file and added nameserver 84.22.106.30 and im still not able to access the internet2
[16:52] <yofun> dont i need to restart a service?
[16:53] <explodes> I have a hardware raid controller, but on that system I am running ubuntu server 13.04, what utilities can I use to bypass the hardware raid controller to manually check the health of each disk?
[16:54] <zero2XIII> yofun: Not as far as I know.. But you can try: restart networking
[16:54] <marawan2> #blender
[16:54] <zero2XIII> yofun: or just log out and back in
[16:55] <StaticWIN> !en | usuario_
[16:56] <ggz> hi
[16:56] <marawan2> clear
[16:56] <marawan2> cls
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[16:56] <FloodBot1> marawan2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <Pici> marawan2: /clear
[16:57] <ggz> regularly, firefox seem to loose internet connection, others applications works fine, i need to restart firefox or switch "offline mode" on then off and everything works again, do you know how to solve this ? i have ubuntu 12.04, firefox 21
[16:59] <marianne> 12.04 using VLC and getting an encryption error when trying to play a  regular DVD
[17:00] <zero2XIII> marianne: try installing libdvdcss2
[17:00] <marawan2> Which browser do you guys recommend for lubuntu distro
[17:00] <zero2XIII> marianne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:00] <marawan2> google chrome, chromium or firfox?
[17:00] <Haruki> marawan2, epiphany maybe?
[17:01] <Haruki> marawan2, firefox of the ones you mentioned...
[17:02] <yellabs-r2> end of life support for windows Xp , the chance for ubuntu to make it big ?
[17:02] <Haruki> yell what do you mean??
[17:03] <Jellyg00se> Hello there, I have an issue where banshee closes 5 seconds after it boots up, everything seems fine but it just closes
[17:03] <yofun> lol zero2XIII service networking restart messed up TTY7 for somereason so i switched ttys and logged into root then rebooted
[17:03] <Jellyg00se> is there a log I can check or any idea where I would start please?
[17:03] <Haruki> How can I save all the files from my Rhythmbox in a folder?
[17:03] <x56_> ubuntu + samsung laptop = bad, battery drop
[17:03] <zero2XIII> yofun: wow, weird hahaha.. Not sure why that happened.. But is it working now?
[17:04] <yellabs-r2> Haruki , i guess all your music in in a directory ..
[17:04] <superdo> hi
[17:04] <superdo> how to install novel moonlight on ubuntu?
[17:04] <zero2XIII> yofun: I have no experience with this "internet2" idea.. Just use Tor on the ocasion to access some *.onions
[17:04] <yofun> no zero2XIII becasue /etc/resolv.conf restores its self. ...hold on im going to add it to the header file then restart
[17:04] <superdo> opening the downloaded file forces Firefox to save it..
[17:05] <Haruki> yellabs-r2, yes, but i want to save all the songs from a playlist in a single folder... it should be trivial to write a command for it but i don't know any scripting ..
[17:05] <ed8> hi, I added a script to my PATH, but when I run it with 'sudo', I got a 'command not found' message
[17:05] <ed8> do I need to put a link in /sbin?
[17:05] <marawan2> Haruki: what is  epiphany
[17:06] <Haruki> marahin, it's a browser
[17:06] <Haruki> marawan2, apt-get install epiphany
[17:06] <marawan2> Haruki: please tell me more about it
[17:06] <marawan2> Haruki: why u see it is better
[17:06] <yellabs-r2> Haruki , for your question : http://askubuntu.com/questions/43643/how-can-i-export-all-the-mp3s-from-a-playlist-in-banshee
[17:07] <zero2XIII> yofun:
[17:07] <yellabs-r2> read and see if that works
[17:07] <Haruki> yellabs-r2, thanks... your google skills are remarkable
[17:07] <zero2XIII> yofun: you might need to add it differently
[17:07] <yofun> zero2XIII:  how so?
[17:07] <zero2XIII> yofun: QUOTE:  The ifup(8) program can be used to configure network interfaces accord‐
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        ing to settings in /etc/network/interfaces(5).  To make ifup push name‐
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        server information to resolvconf when it configures an  interface,  add
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        dns- lines to the relevant iface stanza in /etc/network/interfaces.  To
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        add nameserver addresses add a line beginning with dns-nameservers.
[17:07] <Guest54399> hey guys. On 12.04, when I enable automatic login (GDM 3.0.4), my system will no longer boot past the splash screen. It doesn't crash to console, it just hangs on "starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon". Any tips?
[17:07] <FloodBot1> zero2XIII: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <zero2XIII> awg why did that just happened... meh...
[17:08] <yofun> supercom32:  sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-core moonlight-plugin-mozilla try that ( http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-and-run-silverlight-in-linux/2010/10/02)
[17:09] <yofun> zero2XIII: link to that quote?
[17:09] <yofun> zero2XIII:  and where?
[17:09] <zero2XIII> yofun: man resolvconf
[17:09] <yofun> ah ok
[17:09] <jfddkfnm> anyone knows cuda??
[17:09] <yofun> ops..
[17:09] <OerHeks> superdo, yofun, that silverlight url is old, silverlight ot better moonlight is discontinued
[17:10] <yellabs-r2> Guest54399 : you must have done something before that : installed an new gdm ?
[17:10] <yellabs-r2> !cuda
[17:10] <superdo> OerHeks, solved meantime thanks
[17:10] <zero2XIII> yofun: it is the man page of resolvconf
[17:10] <yofun> zero2XIII:  i know :P
[17:10] <yellabs-r2> cuda are the nvidia drivers
[17:10] <jfddkfnm> yes NVIDIA CUDA
[17:10] <superdo> now I have error installing codec .. error
[17:10] <zero2XIII> yofun: haha sorry just saying
[17:10] <yofun> OerHeks:  moonlight is discontinued?
[17:11] <jfddkfnm> i want to program NVIDIA jetson dev kit...
[17:11] <yellabs-r2> hello OerHeks, alles goed ?
[17:11] <yellabs-r2> :)
[17:11] <yofun> zero2XIII: im not a complete noob :P
[17:11] <yofun> zero2XIII:  lol i run a VPS with ircd and such so.. :P
[17:11] <yofun> zero2XIII: one of my current issues is postfix/dovecot....its a pain
[17:11] <OerHeks> hi yellabs-r2 great, how are you ?
[17:11] <zero2XIII> yofun: Never said you were, just though you might have misunderstood my message
[17:12] <OerHeks> yofun, see the download date "Last Updated: Apr 12, 2011"
[17:12] <yellabs-r2> fine, thanks
[17:12] <SolarisBoy> versus sendmail/qpopper sheesh thats a walk in the park
[17:12] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: not to my knowledge. It's a fresh install, it boots fine if I toggle the flag back
[17:12] <yellabs-r2> protomouse ; just wondering, how can you put it back when it does noot boot but hangs ?
[17:13] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: through the console ;)
[17:13] <yellabs-r2> i see ok..
[17:14] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, i guess best to remove and reinstall gdm ?  apt-get wise
[17:14] <yellabs-r2> did you try that ?
[17:15] <marawan2> #blender
[17:15] <yofun> zero2XIII:  sorry :)
[17:16] <armans> Ubuntu on Chromebook 5 550 = Bliss :D
[17:16] <zero2XIII> yofun: no worries.. Try adding the DNS through the GUI network manager... maybe that'll work.. It works on my system doing it as I said above, not sure why I would need it though, but it works on mine....
[17:17] <yellabs-r2> protomouse : fresh install not upgrade ?
[17:17] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: fresh install. trying your suggestion.
[17:19] <xnp70> I wonder how GeoIP is installed in ubuntu, the package: php5-geoip installs the .so library but not the PHP files :S
[17:19] <xnp70> any body knows ?
[17:19] <xnp70> is that a bug in that package ?
[17:20] <protomouse> same issue. It's no biggie, I can leave autologin disabled. I'd just like to learn what's going on. ;)
[17:21] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, i have no clue, you could try to update , maybe that would help..
[17:21] <yellabs-r2> strange issue
[17:21] <tharkun> What are the current repos of ubuntu?
[17:22] <yofun> zero2XIII:  what GUI?
[17:22] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: indeed it is. I'm already on the tip of updates. Oh well, for another time I guess.
[17:22] <zero2XIII> yofun: the network manager, or are you on a headless system?
[17:22] <yofun> no :P im on a laptop desktop version
[17:23] <yofun> zero2XIII:  but i dont see in the network manager where to add it (if im at the right place ...i have no idea)
[17:23] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, yeah, or replace GDM with an other manager, but i would not do that i think..
[17:23] <tharkun> yofun: What is wrong with n-m?
[17:24] <yofun> tharkun:  what is n-m?
[17:24] <tharkun> n-m ~ network-manager
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, wich version did you install ?
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> of ubuntu
[17:25] <yofun> tharkun:  thats not a command is it?
[17:25] <zero2XIII> yofun: let me try and get you to the same place: "gome-nettool" in terminal, under devices, select your networking interface from the drop down list
[17:25] <zero2XIII> yofun: then click on configure
[17:25] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: 12.04
[17:25] <yofun> command not found ;p hold on let me instal
[17:26] <mrtAkdeniz> hi guys
[17:26] <mrtAkdeniz> is that help channel?
[17:26] <yofun> mrtAkdeniz:  yes this is the help channel for ubuntu
[17:27] <mrtAkdeniz> yofun, I have a problem with my Ubuntu Gnome 13.04, may I ask?
[17:27] <yofun> mrtAkdeniz:  ask and you may get an answer
[17:27] <yofun> mrtAkdeniz:  please dont ask to ask :P
[17:27] <zero2XIII> tharkun: I wanted to use nettool later but sure, yofun open network manager with "nm-connection-editor
[17:27] <mrtAkdeniz> I  have a toshiba laptop. It has amd radeon 7670m
[17:28] <mrtAkdeniz> i just installed ubuntu gnome 13.04 but my max.resolution is 1280x1024
[17:28] <yofun> zero2XIII:  i opened gnome-nettool
[17:28] <yofun> zero2XIII:  just installed it
[17:28] <yellabs-r2> protomouse,  see if i can find an other option, one moment
[17:28] <mrtAkdeniz> And on details option, my graphics are vesa:thames
[17:28] <zero2XIII> yofun: oka under device, select your device and click on configure
[17:29] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:29] <yofun> zero2XIII:  im guessing it would be the wireless device?
[17:29] <zero2XIII> yofun: whatever you are using to connect to the internet
[17:29] <yellabs-r2> protomouse,  reading this one on an simular problem : http://askubuntu.com/questions/130265/ubuntu-12-04-hangs-on-login
[17:29] <yofun> zero2XIII:  okay next?
[17:29] <rrad> exit
[17:30] <zero2XIII> yofun: oka the connection you are currently using for internet access, select it and click on edit
[17:31] <yofun> zero2XIII:  next?
[17:31] <zero2XIII> yofun: go to the "IPv4 settings" tab and see the "DNS servers" text box?
[17:31] <yofun> zero2XIII:  yes i see it
[17:31] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, here are my logs http://tny.cz/2340eb48
[17:32] <mrtAkdeniz> pastebin is not accessable on my country
[17:32] <zero2XIII> yofun: add the IP in there, hit on save and you are done.. Should do it for you
[17:32] <yofun> zero2XIII:  k
[17:32] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Why are you passing 'nomodeset' to the kernel?  This is not how Ubuntu comes by default.
[17:32] <zero2XIII> yofun: I have to run, Ill be back in a bit if that did not work
[17:33] <yofun> zero2XIII: like this? http://screencloud.net/v/qhm0
[17:33] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, because of my graphic card, I cannot install without nomodeset adamk
[17:33] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, If I not choose this option, there is only a blue screen, on system stucks on it...
[17:34] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Well you can't use the open source radeon drivers with nomodeset.  Your options are to either get KMS working, or using the proprietary fglrx driver.
[17:34] <mrtAkdeniz> Which one is better Xorg drivers or fglrx drivers?  adamk
[17:34] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Did you try booting without 'nomodeset' but trying to force a resolution with the 'video=XRESxYRES' option?
[17:35] <yellabs-r2> got to go , good luck ..
[17:35] <yellabs-r2> :)
[17:35] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: They both have their advantages. Personally, I try not to use propietary drivers if at all possible.
[17:35] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, Could you please wait for a while when I'm trying to reboot system with nomodeset?
[17:36] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: I can try.  I can't make any promises that I'll be around later.
[17:36] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, thank you a lot :)
[17:37] <tharkun> What is the current ubuntu version?
[17:38] <DJones> tharkun: 13.04
[17:38] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, thanks a lot bro
[17:38] <OerHeks> tharkun, 12.04 LTS and 13.04
[17:38] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, I just deleted nomodeset option from GRUB and now my resolution is 1366x768 which I want :)
[17:39] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, Is there any option to edit grub permanently? I don't want edit grub on every boot?
[17:39] <tharkun> Would an /etc/apt/sources.list line would look like this deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ 13.04 main restricted
[17:40] <reisio> mrtAkdeniz: yup
[17:40] <mrtAkdeniz> reisio, How can I do?
[17:40] <reisio> mrtAkdeniz: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 for the custom file
[17:40] <mrtAkdeniz> reisio, Thanks :)
[17:40] <fionaMaid> I am trying to upgrade my Ubuntu,but it won't accept any of my passwords.  Is there a password I don't know about?
[17:41] <reisio> fionaMaid: boot a live OS, chroot, run sudo passwd usernameofchoice
[17:41] <reisio> fionaMaid: though potentially your passwords aren't working because the software for utilizing them is broken :D
[17:42] <fionaMaid> I tried logging in as root, no problem.  When I run update manager, I don't get the option to upgrade.
[17:42] <dr_Exntrk> hey ppl..
[17:43] <zero2XIII> yofun: yes like that
[17:44] <dr_Exntrk> today i tried ubuntu directly from USB i.e. just tried without install.. but in tat mode i m not able to open any partitions on my HDD.. Well i wanted to knw if this was NORMAL
[17:45] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: what version of ubuntu exhibited this behaviour?
[17:45] <dr_Exntrk> 12.10
[17:46] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: I have had that happen yes, needed root privledges (or sudo) to mount partitions not owned by "ubuntu" user
 ok. but will this problem still persist if i install ubuntu.. and is this problem also there in ubuntu 13??
[17:49] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: it is not a "problem" persay, and no it should not be there with install. Remember, a live system is designed to not do anything that might effect the host computer, thus some permissions are slightly different than that of a full install
[17:49] <OerHeks> dr_Exntrk, how many primairy partitions do you have? 4 is max
[17:49] <a1> всем привет
[17:50] <DJones> !ru | a1
[17:50] <mrtAkdeniz> My wireless mouse is not working on Ubuntu Gnome 13.04
[17:51] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: U are just AWESOME!!! U just answered all my problems in just a few words.. and one more thing, if i am replace win7 with ubuntu during install wil i loose data in all partitions or only in the partition where win 7 was installed??
[17:52] <mrtAkdeniz> It was not working on Mint too, but If I start Xserver as root by writing su then startx, It was working
[17:53] <dr_Exntrk> OerHeks: Yes i knw. But 5 is max not 4. Only on MBR, on GPT formatted hard-drives its completely different :)
[17:53] <Kartagis> surprising to see another Turkish person talk in #ubuntu :)
[17:53] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: It all depends on where your data is stored, but yes, if you chose the partition with win7 on for the installation, that partition will be formated. May I recommend going over to the ubuntu forums and open a thread there for guidance if you want to do a more advance install such as keeping your file intact etc.. Just to be safe
[17:54] <mrtAkdeniz> I think something on normal user is ignoring Ubuntu to install wireless mouse drivers
[17:54] <mrtAkdeniz> Can it be?
[17:56] <Draxelis> Google keep shortcut icon is blurry on desktop when created via chromium
[17:56] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: did you try Software & Updates, Additional Drivers tab?
[17:56] <Draxelis> anyone aware of any fix?
[17:57] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: Ok so lets say i hav 2 partitions c: and d:, if I try to replace win7 which is on c:, then all data on c: will be wiped whereas the data on d: will remain intact. Right?
[17:58] <orogor> join /ubuntu-server
[17:58] <angel> i need help my ubuntu studio can get wifi connection
[17:58] <Takagami> angel: I am assuming you mean "can't" get a connection...
[17:59] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: yes, if you set it up like that during install. Just remember that *unix systems have a different drive lay out than that of windows.
[17:59] <angel> i know but i let it install alone
[17:59] <angel> yes i can get any wifi connection
[18:00] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: you have a root (/) partition instead of a c:\ drive. Inside which diferent things can happen and be mounted. It is somewhat more complicated that windows since you can go REALLY advance in setting up directory structures with drives mounted in different locations.
[18:01] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, I'm tryin
[18:01] <angel> but i can get some line
[18:02] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, There is no driver except graphics
[18:03] <angel> can someone help please?
[18:03] <ogulmus> yes
[18:03] <angel> thanks
[18:03] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: try apt-get upgrade, that might get its driver
[18:04] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: or better yet, google its model+linux+driver
[18:04] <angel> thanks i donn't know ubuntu studio i'm new one
[18:04] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: Ok i get somewhat get that. Well what i am trying to do is replace windows with ubuntu, then copy the data on the rest of the partitions to a ext-HDD. All i want is the data on other partitions to remain intact. I dont mind loosing data on c:. I just want to knw if there will be any complications
[18:05] <angel> apt .get upgrade do not find order
[18:06] <angel> that's tell me that
[18:06] <hero_biz> hi guys
[18:06] <angel> hi
[18:06] <hero_biz> a question
[18:06] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: Well, backup the data on the other drive first, if you can, just to be save. There is no guarantee that there will not be any complications, rather be safe. However if you manually set the partitions, there should not be any issues. Just make sure you install to the correct drive and not format the other drive, all should be well.
[18:06] <angel> i need help ubuntu studio can't connect with any wifi network
[18:06] <hero_biz> i have a server and i only can get ubuntu 10.04 LTS on it
[18:07] <hero_biz> i wana upgrade my server to 12.04 LTS
[18:07] <hero_biz> i find a few steps on web
[18:07] <hero_biz> but it failed
[18:07] <hero_biz> steps was this:
[18:07] <angel> don't upgrade 12.04 to 13 fuction too bad install for fresh
[18:08] <vignesh> Hey
[18:08] <angel> hey
[18:08] <ikonia> angel: it is fine to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04
[18:08] <hero_biz> i wana go from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS
[18:08] <angel> not for me
[18:08] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: Ok but what do u mean by "manually setting partitions". During ubuntu install u mean??
[18:08] <Draxelis> anyway to fix blurry "google keep" icon on ubuntu?
[18:08] <angel> i owrk to bad upgrade
[18:08] <hero_biz> 10.04 LTS a little is old
[18:08] <ikonia> angel: right, not for you - so don't dell people to not do it, as many others have worked fine
[18:08] <vignesh> I need some help to troubeshoot my wireless problem. I run Ubuntu 13.04 32bit and have a TP Link TL-WN821N card using ndiswrapper
[18:08] <angel> ok sorry
[18:08] <ikonia> hero_biz: still waiting to hear the problem
[18:09] <Kalen> hey everyone
[18:09] <hero_biz> i usd this steps
[18:09] <hero_biz> sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:09] <Kalen> how many people have had problems with UEFI installs alongside Windows???
[18:09] <hero_biz> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[18:09] <angel> i have ubuntu studio , but i can't connect to wifi
[18:09] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, there is no driver about this mouse...
[18:09] <hero_biz> Edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts
[18:09] <vignesh> After some time the connection drops. I need to take out the usb card and plug it back in. How do I solve this?
[18:09] <hero_biz> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:09] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: yes you will see when you start the installation, at some point you will need to define where to install ubuntu to, this is the crucial step for making sure you install to the correct partition, "automatically partition drives" are the default option I believe, and this will almost certainly format all the drives...
[18:09] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, as I said, something on normal user is ignoring its driver
[18:09] <ikonia> hero_biz: there is the problem
[18:09] <ikonia> hero_biz: -d
[18:09] <ikonia> hero_biz: why did you use -d
[18:10] <angel> i have ubuntu studio 13.04
[18:10] <hero_biz> instruction had it..O.O
[18:10] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, and is System Upgrade and apt-get upgrade same thing? Because I upgraded system 5 min. ago
[18:10] <ikonia> hero_biz: which instruction
[18:10] <ikonia> hero_biz: where
[18:10] <hero_biz> not very expert here
[18:10] <hero_biz> askubunto.com
[18:10] <angel> ok
[18:10] <ikonia> hero_biz: please show me the link
[18:10] <hero_biz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/154223/cant-upgrade-ubuntu-server-from-10-04-lts-to-12-04-lts
[18:11] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: I think
[18:11] <hero_biz> i should not use -d?
[18:11] <silmarils> hello
[18:11] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: That would be all zero2XIII. Thanks Loads. I m sorry if i was any trouble, i am just a new user. *cheers*
[18:11] <ikonia> hero_biz: yes, and as you can see someone corrects it bellow that post
[18:11] <angel> you need to updat 10,o4 to 11.0 or installl fresh
[18:11] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: no trouble at all :) we are here to help others as we were once helped. Be good and good luck
[18:11] <ikonia> once again askubuntu blindly gives rubbish information
[18:11] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, Thanks for your helps.
[18:11] <ikonia> angel: who are you talking to
[18:11] <Kartagis> sure
[18:12] <occ> i copied a folder from an sd card to 2 computers with ubuntu, for some reason on one of them a lock appears on the folder icon, and ls -l shows "root root" on that folder..... i chmod 755 that folder but it had no effect. what do i need to do to remove the lock/root?
[18:12] <mrtAkdeniz> I need to wait anyone else to answer my question
[18:12] <angel> someone can help me
[18:12] <ikonia> occ: change the ownership to someone who can read it
[18:12] <zero2XIII> occ: did you "sudo chmod 755" the folder?
[18:12] <hero_biz> ikonia
[18:12] <occ> yes i did sudo chmod 755
[18:12] <zero2XIII> occ: sudo chmod -R 755 sorry
[18:12] <angel> bye
[18:12] <occ> ill try that thanks
[18:12] <hero_biz> is it secure to upgrade through SSH?
[18:13] <ikonia> hero_biz: yes
[18:13] <zero2XIII> occ: Cool :)
[18:13] <hero_biz> ok,ty
[18:13] <hero_biz> and good luck for me... :P
[18:14] <occ> sudo chmod -R 755 folderName  , also seems to have no effect
[18:14] <ikonia> occ: change the owner to someone who can read it as I told you earlier
[18:15] <ikonia> occ: make sure it's on a file system that supports permissions, eg: not NTFS/VFAT
[18:15] <occ> ikonia how do i change the owner? yes i am sure the filesystem supports it
[18:15] <ikonia> occ: what file system is it
[18:15] <occ> ext i think
[18:15] <ikonia> occ: no, not "I think" exactly what file system is it
[18:16] <occ> let me see if i can find out
[18:16] <hero_biz> failed again.. :(
[18:16] <zero2XIII> occ: try the command: "sudo chmod -Rv $(whoami):$(whoami)" and see if there are any errors, if so, what?
[18:16] <ikonia> occ: do not do what zero2XIII said
[18:16] <ikonia> zero2XIII: that is just a nonsense command
[18:17] <zero2XIII> ikonia: why is that nonsense if I might ask? it just asks for a verbose output?
[18:17] <ikonia> occ: please get the file system as I instructed rather than typing in random nonsense commands
[18:17] <ikonia> zero2XIII: chmod doesn't support usernames,
[18:17] <hero_biz> ikonia
[18:17] <hero_biz> i got this error in upgrade
[18:17] <hero_biz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805479/
[18:18] <zero2XIII> ikonia: awg shoot yes i was thinking chown, my mistake
[18:18] <occ> /dev/sda2 is ext4, i think thats my main disk
[18:18] <silmarils> hello, I'm quite new with ubuntu and server configuration in general. My server is running on 10.04 and php 5.3.2 is installed, but I would like to install the latest stable version of php which is 5.5. I found a PPA for 5.5 on launchpad, but I don't know if it will update my current version or only install php 5.5 besides 5.3.2 . Can someone explain me how it works ? Thanks for your help
[18:18] <ikonia> occ: what do you mean "you think" - check
[18:18] <ikonia> hero_biz: do you have PPA's installed
[18:18] <ikonia> hero_biz: also you may have broken it using -d as that will try to upgrade to a development version
[18:19] <ikonia> silmarils: why do you want to upgrade from 5.3.2 to 5.5
[18:19] <occ> yes i am certain it is ext4..... and i just reinstalled ubuntu over a previous ubuntu installation which supported permissions... and i am quite sure it said ext4 during installation
[18:19] <ikonia> occ: ok, so chown the file / directory to someone other than root, eg your user
[18:19] <hero_biz> what is PPA ikonia?
[18:20] <occ> ok ill try chown
[18:20] <ikonia> hero_biz: if you don't know, you're not using one, it's basically a 3rd party software repo
[18:20] <hero_biz> oh,then no,becaue this was fresh installed an hour ago
[18:20] <hero_biz> :P
[18:21] <occ> ohh i think i know what happend..... the folder was created via my script(mkdir folder).... and i ran that script with "sudo scriptName"
[18:21] <hero_biz> any idea how to repair that problem caused by -d?
[18:21] <silmarils> ikonia, because I need to use symfony2 and it requires at least, php 5.3.8 or newer, and 5.5 is apparently the newest
[18:21] <ikonia> hero_biz: you need to fix the broken packages
[18:21] <hero_biz> <.< i guess a lot problems for me,isn't it?
[18:21] <ikonia> silmarils: then I'd strongly advise you upgrade the instance to an ubuntu version that supports the php version you want
[18:21] <ikonia> silmarils: rather than use a PPA
[18:22] <hero_biz> or is there a command that do it?
[18:22] <ikonia> hero_biz: no
[18:22] <hero_biz> <.<
[18:22] <ikonia> hero_biz: you have to manually do it
[18:22] <hero_biz> damn
[18:24] <silmarils> ikonia, do you know where I can check which version of ubuntu supports which version of php ?
[18:24] <ikonia> silmarils: check the repos for the version, I'd suspect 12.04 to be ok and it's LTS
[18:24] <hero_biz> hmmm
[18:24] <silmarils> ikonia, thank you a lot !
[18:24] <ikonia> !info php precise
[18:25] <ikonia> !info php
[18:25] <ikonia> !info php5
[18:25] <ikonia> !info php5 precise
[18:25] <ikonia> silmarils: there you go 5.3.10 in 12.04
[18:25] <silmarils> ikonia, and do you think there is a risk if I update from 10.04 to 12.04 ? I mean, do you think I might lose files, or things won't work … this kind of stuff ? I only use it as a web server, I only installed apache, mysql and this kind of stuff
[18:26] <ikonia> silmarils: all standard official ubuntu packages, you should have no problems, backups are always wise though
[18:26] <hero_biz> lol
[18:26] <silmarils> ok ..
[18:26] <hero_biz> and don't use -d... :P
[18:26] <ikonia> hero_biz: few things are more annoying than random "lol" in the channel
[18:26] <silmarils> ikonia, well, thank you very very much for your help :)
[18:26] <ikonia> !upgrade | silmarils
[18:28] <hero_biz> i guess i need a few days so i could reinstall my server again...then try upgrading
[18:28] <ikonia> why don't you just install the version you want
[18:28] <hero_biz> i can only reinstall once a week free of charge... :(
[18:28] <ikonia> rather than an old version and upgrade
[18:28] <ikonia> hero_biz: is your server up and running now ?
[18:28] <hero_biz> my vps only comes with 10.04 LTS option for os
[18:28] <hero_biz> yea
[18:28] <hero_biz> did not go down
[18:29] <hero_biz> luckily
[18:29] <ikonia> hero_biz: ok please show me the output of "uname -a" this is very imporant
[18:29] <hero_biz> Linux lvps91-250-114-216.dedicated.hosteurope.de 2.6.18-028stab101.1 #1 SMP Sun Jun 24 19:50:48 MSD 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:29] <ikonia> hero_biz: ok - you cannot upgrade
[18:29] <hero_biz> damn :(
[18:29] <ikonia> hero_biz: this is a modified version of ubuntu running in a redhat based host platform
[18:30] <ikonia> hero_biz: you would need to get your hosting provider to give you an image based on the version you want
[18:30] <hero_biz> hm...
[18:30] <hero_biz> i switched from centos to ubunto just because i thought i can upgrade it.. :(
[18:30] <ikonia> hero_biz: your hosting provider is sloppy/poor - they have you locked.
[18:31] <hero_biz> their support and stabality is GREAT
[18:31] <ikonia> hero_biz: clearly not,
[18:31] <hero_biz> but os that they provide is old
[18:31] <ikonia> hero_biz: it is also a bastardiszed build, running a redhat kernel
[18:31] <hero_biz> debian 6,ubuntu 10.04 centos 6
[18:31] <flattyre> hi
[18:33] <atem_> hello friends is there any way to list only directories in konqueror??
[18:34] <jrib> atem_: I don't know, but you can usually display the directories first, and then the files later (though I don't know if you can do that in konqueror)
[18:34] <hero_biz> hmm
[18:35] <hero_biz> is it possible to install gcc 4.6+ on ubuntu 10.04?
[18:35] <atem_> well yea i can, is only i wondering
[18:35] <atem_> some of you use pv??
[18:35] <ikonia> hero_biz: not safel
[18:35] <ikonia> safely
[18:35] <hero_biz> :s
[18:36] <hero_biz> i guess i need to ignore lastest version mkvmerge....
[18:36] <atem_> pv is a god pipe viewer its useful with tar to compress and decompress
[18:37] <hero_biz> somehow working with yum was easier than apt for me
[18:44] <leonardo_> hi, how do I play shoutcast .pls in rhytmbox? thank you
[18:44] <silmarils> ikonia, in fact, because of my hosting service, it's a pain in the ass to upgrade the OS …
[18:44] <ikonia> silmarils: then you'll have more problems using a PPA
[18:45] <silmarils> ikonia, why?
[18:46] <ikonia> silmarils: because it will pull in / require new packages for dependencies the same as an upgade
[18:46] <ikonia> it will just offer a bigger risk than an upgrade
[18:46] <silmarils> ikonia, ok… it seems I am stucked
[18:51] <silmarils> ikonia, even if I use only php 5.4
[18:51] <silmarils> ?
[18:51] <ikonia> silmarils: yes
[18:52] <silmarils> ikonia, :(
[18:53] <SpyClub> I am using hexchat and it keeps crashing when I click on "list of channels" under ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, anyone got any ideas?
[19:00] <SaxX> hi all
[19:00] <atem_> hi saxx
[19:00] <SaxX> i have just downloaded burp 1.5
[19:00] <SaxX> hi atem_
[19:00] <caryhartline> There doesn't seem to be a PyQt5 package on Launchpad.  Is there a reason or has no one gotten around to uploading it?
[19:01] <SaxX> and when i am trying to run it i just have this message but no interface
[19:01] <SaxX> Proxy service started on 127.0.0.1:8080
[19:01] <SaxX> have you ever encounter this problem under ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:02] <Wally2> hy guis
[19:02] <Wally2> ops hy guys
[19:02] <reisio> hy Wally2
[19:02] <genii> caryhartline: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1130784
[19:02] <Spr1ng> What's the general consensus on storing .ppk files within Dropbox?
[19:03] <reisio> Spr1ng: does there need to be a consensus about it?
[19:03] <cgtdk> Spr1ng: That's a private key file, right?
[19:03] <Spr1ng> cgtdk: Yep
[19:03] <cgtdk> Spr1ng: Then don't do it
[19:03] <cgtdk> unless you encrypt it
[19:03] <Spr1ng> Ye was thinking about that
[19:04] <Spr1ng> my certs all require passwords too
[19:05] <caryhartline> Ugh those Launchpad bug comments were painful to read. "Qt 5 is for bleeding-edgers, which most likely have ported their apps to python3..."
[19:05] <reisio> weee python
[19:06] <cortexman> does anyone know how to create a virtual soundcard ?
[19:06] <cortexman> i.e., on a virtual machine in the cloud
[19:06] <reisio> cortexman: ?
[19:06] <cortexman> i know how to create a loopback - pactl load-module module-loopback. however..still need virtual input/output devices.
[19:07] <mantovani> cortexman: http://bit.ly/11QrhDG
[19:07] <cortexman> mantovani: kill yourself.
[19:07] <mantovani> cortexman: ?
[19:08] <caryhartline> mantovani you're not being helpful
[19:08] <mantovani> cortexman: your answer is there
[19:08] <mantovani> why not ?
[19:08] <mantovani> the answer is there
[19:08] <DJones> !google | mantovani
[19:08] <mantovani> do you have mental problems ?
[19:08] <mantovani> oh ok
[19:09] <cortexman> mantovani: I am in this chat room because there are 1750 people here, and one of them might have *personally setup up a virtual input / output audio device on ubuntu*
[19:09] <cortexman> google is irrelevant. that's not why i am here.
[19:09] <cortexman> google will often give you a dozen potential solutions, and perhaps none of them actually work.
[19:10] <DJones> cortexman: Ignore them, they're gone from the channel
[19:10] <caryhartline> Anyways, what is the insistence on trying to compatible with Qt4 and Python 2 when Ubuntu plans to totally ditch those in half a year?
[19:10] <batmite> Hello :)
[19:10] <MathCubes> Can anyone help me?
[19:11] <caryhartline> MathCubes what's your problem?
[19:11] <MathCubes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcDQOvjaMo'
[19:11] <MathCubes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcDQOvjaMo
[19:11] <FloodBot1> MathCubes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <MathCubes> that
[19:11] <MathCubes> but hard to put it in text
[19:12] <ikonia> MathCubes: you'll need to log a bug for that
[19:12] <ikonia> MathCubes: it looks like it's just a glitch with the side bar and positioning
[19:12] <MathCubes> it look like .... bug with the batch file... How do i fix that?
[19:12] <reisio> no point uploading 720p if it's going to be so low quality :p
[19:12] <ikonia> batch file ?
[19:13] <reisio> MathCubes: they're probably compiz bugs
[19:13] <MathCubes> Dodge windows
[19:13] <ikonia> MathCubes: what batch file, that video shows you moving windows around and them not snapping
[19:13] <ikonia> MathCubes: you'll need to log a bug for that as it looks like a minor issue to do with the side bar blocking auto snap
[19:13] <MathCubes> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-get-unity-launcher-window-dodge.html
[19:13] <schleppy> I have an ubuntu vm on my osx box (vmware fusion) and I am trying to track down how to fix an issue with DNS over split-tunnel vpn.  We use non-standard tlds for vpn accessible resources.  It seems that because it is non-standard my client (ubuntu 12.04) is trying to use my local resolver.  What I wan to know is if this is something I can fix in ubuntu itself or if it is a vmware problem.
[19:14] <schleppy> I can access vpn resources by IP without issues, but name resolution is not routing through tunnel.
[19:14] <reisio> fun listening to you breathe :p
[19:14] <tinti> have anyone used iptables condition?
[19:14] <reisio> tinti: some ones have yes
[19:15] <tinti> little help?
[19:15] <newb_> Hey can someone help me with something?
[19:15] <newb_> regarding understanding EFI
[19:15] <tinti> I am dont know how to enable it on iptables
[19:15] <newb_> I am trying to triple boot linux/win/osx on a macbook air
[19:15] <cortexman> the answer to my question, which was essentially "how do I create a virtual audio card on linux, and how do I set up a virtual audio loopback on that card?" is as follows: pactl load-module module-loopback; sudo /sbin/modprobe snd-dummy
[19:16] <newb_> however when I install the ubuntu install it says it isn't bootable
[19:16] <newb_> how exactly does EFI work
[19:16] <reisio> poorly? :)
[19:17] <newb_> is it a sep partition that needs to have basically bootable images that it can use to boot to whatever partition you select?
[19:17] <genii> With smoke and mirrors
[19:17] <reisio> newb_: it's a boot loader alternative, basically
[19:17] <newb_> wow thanks guys
[19:17] <reisio> newb_: and there are multiple ways to come at it
[19:17] <MathCubes> no one is helping me :(
[19:17] <newb_> imformative lol
[19:18] <ikonia> MathCubes: what help do you want ?
[19:18] <reisio> MathCubes: helping you fix software bugs?
[19:18] <newb_> reisio okay such as?
[19:18] <MathCubes> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-get-unity-launcher-window-dodge.html
[19:18] <MathCubes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcDQOvjaMo
[19:18] <FloodBot1> MathCubes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <ikonia> MathCubes: yes, you'll need to log a bug for that
[19:18] <reisio> newb_: you can boot images directly via UEFI, you can ignore it and have GRUB do it
[19:19] <schleppy> anyone have a suggestion or comment for my issue?
[19:19] <newb_> uefi being what exactly? a industry standard bootable image?
[19:19] <occ> i have a strange problem, the command "cp -p ~/.Xdefaults ~/myOtherFolder" works fine, except if i run that command as sudo, i get the error "sudo: unable to resolve host *myComputerName" i only get this error on this particular file, and also on this particular computer, i have just installed ubuntu on both my computers and running identical operations on my other computer with no problem.... it seems to be a bug with this fi
[19:19] <occ> le? and something to do with my computerName/host?
[19:19] <newb_> that allows you to choose what to boot .. so like Grub?
[19:19] <reisio> newb_: not it's like a bios alternative
[19:19] <reisio> s/not/no/
[19:19] <ikonia> occ: sudo won't work as you've messed your hostname/sudo config
[19:20] <reisio> it's what loads what loads the OS
[19:20] <ikonia> occ: it's nothing to do with the cp command, if you run "sudo apt-get update" for example, you'll see the same error
[19:20] <reisio> (not a typo)
[19:20] <BayesianBanana> hello
[19:20] <occ> ill test that now...
[19:20] <reisio> hi BayesianBanana
[19:21] <newb_> it then passes off to grub for OS selection?
[19:21] <houman> hi, I have no longer the folder mail under /etc/ how do i get it back please?  I have installed sendmail and still no folder is there
[19:21] <reisio> newb_: that's one mode of operation, yes
[19:21] <newb_> okay so how would I get it to work with this stupid macbook
[19:22] <newb_> I tried software grub like ... called rEFI and the newer one
[19:22] <occ> ikonia, sudo apt-get update, i just ran and it worked fine, no errors.... my computer name on this machine is userName-XXXXXX (and i get the error sudo unable to resolve host userName-XXXXXX).......... my other computername is userName-MS-N014 (no errors on this computer)
[19:22] <SuperLag> Well. That was a learning experience. Time to quit effing around with other distros, and keep production on Ubuntu. Tried Arch on my laptop last night... kept ~ intact. Couldn't get packages needed to connected to a customer VPN. Needless to say, back on *buntu, and productive... in all of about 15 minutes. *sigh* #whenwillieverlearn
[19:22] <newb_> From what I am getting it doesn't see the partition as EFI and therefore doesn't allow me to select it to boot
[19:23] <explodes> Hello. How do I adduser w/ an encrypted home directory?
[19:23] <Magicarp> Since 13.10 will use Mir, how will I go about using the binary blob driver for my AMD card?
[19:23] <ikonia> occ: how does it work fine when you just told me it errors
[19:23] <ikonia> occ: could you please try to be clear
[19:23] <ikonia> Magicarp: will it really use mir.....
[19:24] <occ> sorry. the command "sudo apt-get update" worked without errors.... the only error i got was with the command "sudo cp -p ~/.Xdefaults ~/myotherfolder"
[19:24] <ikonia> occ: are you running both as the same use
[19:24] <occ> yes
[19:24] <BayesianBanana> I have a quick question if anyone can answer. I wrote a backup script to tar several folders and want to send them to a network drive. The network drive is on my domain (but located about 200 mi away) but I have it mounted using cifs. Would it be better to move the file just using mv or rsync? I guess what I'm asking is rsync appropriate to use when moving files to a mounted drive.
[19:24] <ikonia> occ: please run "sudo apt-get update" - confirm that works, then straight away run the cp command with sudo and confirm the error is still there
[19:24] <occ> ok...
[19:24] <reisio> newb_: you can probably use refit, or just the EFI controls; personally I'd use GRUB
[19:24] <newb_> resio?
[19:25] <ikonia> BayesianBanana: you won't see a huge difference to be honest
[19:25] <newb_> can I just use grub for boot selection?
[19:25] <ikonia> BayesianBanana: if you want to keep it synced...then you'll benifit from a differential tool such as rsync
[19:25] <Magicarp> ikonia From what I read, since 14.04 is an LTS they want to start getting it testest ASAP and so it's gonna be default in saucy.
[19:25] <newb_> only for windows and linux not the osx correct? does grub support efi?
[19:25] <newb_> partitions
[19:25] <ikonia> Magicarp: they plan to ship it...but use it...I'd be very suprised,
[19:25] <occ> yes i have confirmed that. just did it again......sudo apt-get update, no errors, and sudo cp... right after gave me an error
[19:26] <ikonia> occ: ok, that's very odd,
[19:26] <reisio> newb_: you can use grub with macbooks last I checked, yes
[19:26] <ikonia> occ: can you pastebin the following commands please.
[19:26] <occ> i think it has to do with my computername... this time during ubuntu installation i just left it at the default computername... where as before i set my own one
[19:26] <occ> ok...
[19:26] <ikonia> occ: "uname -a", then "id" then sudo touch ~/testfile
[19:26] <silmarils> ikonia, sorry to annoy you again, do you know a good solution to perform a backup ?
[19:27] <ikonia> occ: put the output of all them in a pastebin please.
[19:27] <ikonia> silmarils: depends what you're trying to back up
[19:27] <newb_> okay can you explain what is different from the new EFI ?
[19:27] <occ> ok. will take a moment... need to find my pastebin login details
[19:27] <ikonia> silmarils: can I have a little more info
[19:27] <reisio> newb_: hrmm?
[19:28] <newb_> reisio > rather can you explain what the differences is in EFI from the old partitions?
[19:28] <silmarils> ikonia, I want to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS, I want to backup my actual 10.04 in case of there is a problem
[19:28] <reisio> newb_: EFI hasn't anything much to do with partitions
[19:28] <reisio> newb_: do you mean GPT?
[19:28] <ikonia> silmarils: so you want to backup the whole OS rather than just parts of the data
[19:28] <silmarils> indeed
[19:28] <ikonia> silmarils: look at something like clonezilla to put it to an external source as an image
[19:29] <newb_> reisio > Thats what I was looking for
[19:29] <newb_> :)
[19:29] <newb_> yes gpt ... doesn't efi replace that?
[19:29] <reisio> newb_: no
[19:29] <silmarils> ikonia, ok, I will take a look, thank you very much :)
[19:29] <newb_> or uefi?.. Uefi is just a standard right?
[19:29] <reisio> newb_: might promote it, actually
[19:29] <reisio> newb_: uefi is the new efi, yes
[19:29] <wheatthin> uefi replaces bios
[19:30] <newb_> so how do I edit it and show it what is bootable or not?
[19:30] <reisio> uefi is an alternative to bios
[19:30] <reisio> it isn't (remotely) universally preferred, so it's not really what I'd call a replacement
[19:30] <newb_> some manufactors make ones that resemble the old style bios but are actually running uefi correct?
[19:31] <occ> here is the pastebin....actually it seems to be happening with other files too..... http://pastebin.com/wGn3m8my
[19:31] <reisio> newb_: I haven't dealt with it personally, so you'll have to do a little research, but
[19:31] <reisio> newb_: there are likely many explicit tutorials on your specific model of laptop with Ubuntu
[19:31] <wheatthin> reisio, well if your motherboard didn't come with bios, and came with uefi, then it really isn't an alternative
[19:31] <reisio> newb_: possibly, but I doubt it
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | newb_ start here
[19:31] <reisio> what most people get out of uefi is that it can have big silly graphics
[19:31] <reisio> and... basically nothing else :p
[19:31] <thurstylark> why is bind taking port 53 even though apt-get purge bind turns up nothing?
[19:31] <ServicesLuto> Alguém fala português?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[19:32] <ServicesLuto> Thanks.
[19:32] <wheatthin> big graphics, raid, boot options, thermal control, fan speed control etc
[19:32] <reisio> wheatthin: you're suggesting that for a mobo that never had a bios, but has uefi, that uefi _replaced_ it? :p
[19:32] <Pici> thurstylark: because 'bind' isn't the name of the package. bind9 is the package installed with the dns-server task.
[19:33] <occ> ikonia here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/wGn3m8my
[19:33] <newb_> thanks guys :)
[19:33] <thurstylark> Pici: That would be the problem.
[19:33] <ikonia> occ: is your hostname actually xxxxx
[19:33] <wheatthin> memory and cpu speed control blah blah blah
[19:33] <thurstylark> Pici: Thanks
[19:33] <newb_> didn't bios deal with raid boot options thermal control fan speed just fine... why did they change it?
[19:33] <ikonia> wheatthin: what ?
[19:33] <Gremlyn> when I am in a terminal and say I'm attempting to cd to another directory, when I tab-complete folders, I end up with a space after the completed folder and I don't think it used to do that, quite annoying as more often than not I tab-complete and want to add something else on the end... any ideas?
[19:33] <Pici> thurstylark: no problem :)
[19:34] <wolftune> hi, on one computer, no network is showing but it worked earlier today help!
[19:34] <OerHeks> Gremlyn, see with ls if you have folders with a space in the name, that would be logical
[19:34] <occ> ikonia, from what i can see from those commands, it is XXXXXX, or occ-XXXXXX, my terminal shows occ@occ-XXXXXX:
[19:35] <newb_> so they created a new bios just for fancy graphics
[19:35] <newb_> :S
[19:35] <wheatthin> newb_, new standards being released, hence the bios replacement
[19:35] <reisio> newb_: partly to assert more control over end users, partly to flaunt features they could sell
[19:35] <reisio> newb_: mostly, yes :p
[19:35] <ikonia> occ: if you do ping occ-XXXXXX does that work ? can you please pastebin your /etc/hosts file too
[19:35] <Gremlyn> OerHeks, it's globally like that, whether there are folders with spaces or not
[19:35] <reisio> apple is kind of big on flash, you may have noticed
[19:35] <wheatthin> even though it isn't highly adopted yet
[19:35] <newb_> was apple one of the first to adapt it?
[19:36] <newb_> its annoying
[19:36] <newb_> I hate apple
[19:36] <newb_> :|
[19:36] <wheatthin> newb_ indeed.. apple is a mighty fine company
[19:36] <wheatthin> it's all the pc's tho that are trying to adapt to it's standards
[19:37] <newb_> when apple products are working great... when they fail its a HUGE problem... seem them cause huge networking issues that take hours to figure out
[19:37] <prahlad> Need ideas to develop apps using python and pygtk ?
[19:37] <reisio> wheatthin: yes... 100% of them...
[19:37] <wheatthin> newb_ they rarely fail tho.
[19:37] <prahlad> Can anyone suggest me ?
[19:37] <ikonia> newb_: 1.) not intersted in apple in this channel 2.) making things up such as "apple causes huge networking issues" isn't really helpful to anyone
[19:37] <reisio> prahlad: one that keeps people from asking such questions on IRC
[19:37] <usr13> occ:    Net error        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[19:38] <prahlad> reisio: nope. seriously...
[19:38] <reisio> prahlad: oh seriously
[19:38] <newb_> ikonia have you dealt with apple servers?
[19:38] <ikonia> prahlad: I'd welcome that app seriously
[19:38] <ikonia> newb_: yes
[19:38] <reisio> prahlad: find something useful that uses pyqt and port it
[19:38] <newb_> :|
[19:38] <prahlad> for example ?
[19:38] <ikonia> prahlad: try asking in #python for example projects
[19:38] <occ> ping: unknown host occ-XXXXXX,  my /etc/hosts is http://pastebin.com/w8VWDUjC    ........ i just copied my hosts file there before these errors, may have something to do with it.... except this is all done via  a script which i have run on this machine and another(i just reformatted them both) before without error
[19:38] <reisio> there aren't that many useful things that only use qt :p
[19:38] <ikonia> occ: ok, we have a winner
[19:39] <reisio> #python will hate the question even more :p
[19:39] <reisio> but they'll take it
[19:39] <occ> whats the winner
[19:39] <ikonia> occ: add an entry for occ-XXXXXX in /etc/hosts and you're problems should go away
[19:39] <ikonia> occ: map it to 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 as you've done with others
[19:39] <occ> ok ill try
[19:40] <wolftune> hi, on one computer, no network is showing but it worked earlier today help!
[19:40] <newb_> argh
[19:40] <Teh_Bucket> wireless or wired?
[19:41] <newb_> okay I am trying to get kali installed on efi
[19:41] <newb_> kali is based on ubuntu
[19:41] <newb_> crap sec
[19:41] <ikonia> newb_: and therefore nothing to do with this channel, so please use the kali support resources
[19:41] <PashaPasta> Kali is not based on ubuntu
[19:41] <PashaPasta> it is built on debian7
[19:41] <wolftune> Teh_Bucket: neither wired nor wireless works
[19:41] <DJones> !kali | newb_
[19:41] <wolftune> on the computer here, I have a wired connection, but no network is recognized
[19:42] <Teh_Bucket> do you have a way to confirm it works outside of ubuntu?
[19:42] <wolftune> the computer worked before, and my other system works
[19:42] <wolftune> I think some setting got messed up
[19:42] <vlt> wolftune: Can you ping the router?
[19:42] <occ> thanks ikonia, that fixed it. i can see in my hosts file my old computer name "st1" i forgot the change..... though i am not sure why my other computer dosn't give an error as i forgot to update that one's host file too
[19:42] <wolftune> Teh_Bucket: it works on the other computer
[19:42] <wolftune> vlt: no I can't ping
[19:43] <ikonia> occ: excellent, well done
[19:43] <occ> thanks
[19:43] <wolftune> vlt: it says "Network is unreachable"
[19:45] <marawan2> hello
[19:46] <marawan2> could someone give me help with the IRC  Xchat gnome
[19:46] <marawan2> how is it used
[19:47] <marianne> ok, officially love you guys! Player is now set up for DVDs and Blu-Rays
[19:50] <wheatthin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[19:50] <wheatthin> not much more we can help with that this site doesn't explain about xchat
[19:51] <ignac865> Question for IRC client (Smuxi). How can I stop the connection messages?
[19:51] <reisio> ignac865: ask #smuxi
[19:51] <DJones> ignac865: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Smuxi
[19:52] <ignac865> @DJones Thanx
[19:52] <marawan2> #mypaint
[19:52] <wheatthin> marianne, btw I searched google for that site by using "xchat howto" as the search string
[19:52] <marawan2> #libreoffice
[19:54] <wheatthin> marianne, people in here will discourage suggesting the use of google, but it does help when finding factual answers about technical questions
[19:54] <marawan2> #dosbox
[19:55] <reisio> marawan2: yes indeed
[19:55] <DJones> marawan2: You need to put /join in front of the channel name
[19:55] <marawan2> sorry guys
[19:56] <BluesKaj> marawan2, just click on #dosbox
[19:56] <marawan2> i don't know how to join a # thing so i type it here and then click it
[19:56] <wheatthin> marianne, sorry that was for marawan2
[19:56] <marianne> wheatthin: no worries
[19:57] <marianne> wheatthin: I just downloaded the update to smuxi from omgubuntu and it's pretty slick... graphical
[19:57] <marawan2> wheatthin
[19:57] <marawan2> if i say your name in a chat it goes yellow for you
[19:58] <reisio> more like if I say your name
[19:58] <reisio> marawan2: foo
[19:58] <reisio> it probably goes yellow for you :)
[19:59] <wheatthin> marawan2, yup indeed.. sorry for that, I was going to tell you that people in here will discourage using google to search for technical things, but all I did to find the xchat howto was exactly     "xchat howto" in the search string from google.. it sent a link from ubuntu
[20:00] <marawan2> wheatthin: google like magic!
[20:00] <wheatthin> yup :)
[20:00] <wheatthin> reisio, ops are people too dangit :P
[20:00] <reisio> heh
[20:01] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit. After an update today my system was showing "Some of the packages failed to download" and it was flashplayer-installer and I clicked on "Run this action now". But it was not downloading anything so I closed the terminal. Now my firefox is showing that flashplugin is not installed. Though "flashplayer-installer" and "ubuntu-restricted-extras" are installed in their newest versions. What should I do?
[20:01] <wheatthin> unless you're ubottu
[20:01] <reisio> sazawal: are you experiencing some problem?
[20:01] <sazawal> reisio, yes flash videos are not playing in firefox
[20:02] <wheatthin> sazawal, did you restart the browser?
[20:02] <sazawal> wheatthin, yes :(
[20:02] <wheatthin> sazawal, reinstall
[20:02] <wheatthin> the flashplayer-plugin
[20:03] <sazawal> wheatthin, you mean flashplayer-installer?
[20:03] <wheatthin> sazawal, yeah that stuff
[20:03] <sazawal> wheatthin, let me try this
[20:04] <zipy> hey could someone try my hometorproxy?
[20:05] <wheatthin> zipy, that's an offtopic subject
[20:05] <sazawal> wheatthin, reisio, great its working now. Thank you
[20:05] <reisio> gj
[20:06] <zipy> huh
[20:06] <bsmith0931> i need to merge 2 directory trees, remote to local and not overwrite newer local files.
[20:06] <wheatthin> !ot | zipy
[20:06] <reisio> bsmith0931: #rsync
[20:06] <zipy> yes its running on ubuntu server
[20:06] <bsmith0931> thanks
[20:06] <zipy> i put privoxy and tor on it
[20:06] <zipy> didnt get squi3 to run with it tho :(
[20:07] <zipy> squid
[20:07] <wheatthin> and as long as there's no problem getting it installed, then there's no need for our help, but in offtopic you can ask them
[20:07] <bekks> zipy: Why not?
[20:07] <zipy> dont know, after i did the squid.conf it seems like i couldnt start it anymore
[20:08] <bekks> zipy: What did youi do to the config?
[20:08] <bekks> !details | zipy
[20:09] <zipy> i followed this: http://evilzone.org/anonymity/setup-your-own-proxy-with-squidprivoxytor-on-debian-like-distros-%28tutorial%29/
[20:09] <zipy> everything worked fine
[20:09] <ikonia> the quest for anonymity is just such a waste of time
[20:09] <zipy> until squid3
[20:10] <zipy> well its not only about anonymity
[20:10] <ignac865> What language would you learn for starting to program for linux (I already know Bash Scripting)
[20:10] <zipy> we have some filtered sites
[20:10] <wheatthin> most places like freenode ban tor proxies
[20:10] <zipy> like grooveshark etc
[20:10] <zipy> dont work here
[20:10] <bekks> ignac865: The one that fits your application most.
[20:11] <PashaPasta> hard to go wrong with python or perl
[20:11] <bekks> zipy: And whats not working with your config? You just said: "everything worked fine".
[20:11] <zipy> yes until step nr 10
[20:11] <wheatthin> bekks, until he tried configuring squid
[20:11] <zipy> squid.conf
[20:11] <reisio> ignac865: http://greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html
[20:11] <bekks> PashaPasta: Hard to even go with python or perl. Both are scripting languages.
[20:12] <ignac865> Yeah well, I'm a student I'm learning linux (I used windows). I know java, php, visual basic, and a little ruby, but for day to day purposses I would like to programm in linux
[20:12] <zipy> yes
[20:12] <zipy> hm wait i will config all again
[20:12] <zipy> then i can copy the msg when i want to start squid
[20:12] <ignac865> Python is the one I might I think, I see it on many comments
[20:12] <jrib> ignac865: you can use java, php, and ruby in linux
[20:12] <zipy> will take a while tho xD
[20:12] <reisio> ignac865: ah, probably don't need as introductory as that book I linked is, then
[20:12] <reisio> ignac865: see #python's /topic
[20:12] <bekks> zipy: You couls start to finally tell us whats your actual problem at step 10.
[20:13] <zipy> i will when i see the msg again mom
[20:13] <bekks> ignac865: You could even use c, c++, c#, D, R, etc.
[20:13] <zipy> im running it without squid3 atm
[20:13] <ignac865> And the applications of Ubuntu (I know there is a lot of variety) what language do they use? C++ I guess
[20:14] <reisio> ignac865: lot of variety
[20:14] <bekks> ignac865: They use python, perl, java, c, c++, etc.
[20:14] <reisio> etc.
[20:14] <ignac865> Thanks guys
[20:15] <ignac865> other thing, how do I refer to someone on IRC, @ doesn't work I see
[20:15] <bekks> ignac865: By typing the nickname, followed by a : and your text.
[20:15] <ignac865> Ok right, I got it
[20:15] <DJones> ignac865: Just start typing their nick and then press the tab key
[20:16] <DJones> !tab | ignac865
[20:16] <bekks> ignac865: You can use the tab completion for the nickname, too.
[20:18] <marianne> Hardware question: right now I have a lower end NVidia vid card... i use it mostly for movies and streaming content. I would like to upgrade, but I get lost in all the choices. What are the preferences of the group?
[20:18] <motaka2> I have installed google chrome but I don't know from where I can run it
[20:19] <marianne> motaka2: open your dash and type it in the field
[20:19] <motaka2> marianne: what is dash ?
[20:20] <zipy> ^^
[20:20] <motaka2> marianne: found it thank you
[20:20] <motaka2> now it says
[20:20] <motaka2> Google Chrome can not be run as root.
[20:21] <marianne> motaka2: do you have a separate non-root account you can use?
[20:21] <cgtdk> motaka2: Why are you running it as root?
[20:24] <motaka2> cgtdk: I dont know, why shouldn't I ?
[20:25] <cgtdk> Because it's unnecessary, and security flaws are far more dangerous if the program is run as root
[20:25] <marianne> motaka2: I learned that lesson a long time ago... when you run everything as root you stand a chance of hosing EVERYTHING... voice of experience here!
[20:25] <cgtdk> Only run as root when you absolutely must
[20:26] <motaka2> marianne: What should I do ?
[20:27] <marianne> motaka2: create a separate account for regular usage...
[20:27] <wheatthin> create a none root, user
[20:28] <motaka2> 1. What will happen to the apps I have downloaded and istalled as root? Here the internet speed is awfully low
[20:28] <motaka2> 2. How can I create another user
[20:28] <wheatthin> motaka2, nothing, you aren't deleting root, just creating a none root user
[20:28] <wheatthin> !adduser | motaka2
[20:30] <jrib> !adduser =~ s/"admin"/"sudo"
[20:30] <jrib> !adduser =~ s/"admin"/"sudo"/
[20:31] <motaka2> wheatthin: Should be standard or administrator, it for home usage and I am the only one who uses this computer
[20:31] <wheatthin> motaka2, user with administrative privs
[20:32] <usr13> motaka2: We don't operate as administrator, we only use administrator privileges when needed.
[20:32] <wheatthin> motaka2, it still will allow you to run things with root prives, but in userspace
[20:32] <wheatthin> usr13, that's the only way he'll access sudo
[20:32] <silmarils> ikonia, one last question, when I do, "do-release-upgrade" , does it delete all the files ?
[20:33] <usr13> motaka2: As wheatthin points out, we use sudo when needed, (only when necessary).
[20:33] <motaka2> wheatthin: It didnt ask me for password what willbe the pass?
[20:34] <ikonia> silmarils: delete what files ?
[20:34] <ikonia> silmarils: it upgrades packages and config files where needed, and touches nothing that it doesn't have to
[20:34] <ignacio_> When having a home pc with internet connection, is it really dangerous to set the modes to 777 ? Some software like Drupal often need it for some files...
[20:35] <ikonia> ignacio_: no software needs 777
[20:35] <usr13> ignacio_: drupal doesnt need 777?
[20:35] <bekks> usr13: No software needs 777.
[20:35] <usr13> bekks: I know, (the question mark was a typo).
[20:35] <ignacio_> Yeah, the public files etc, otherwise I should enter drupal in a group I guess (i dunno... :S)
[20:35] <bekks> usr13: ah :)
[20:35] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to share a document (libreoffice) with someone in a LAN and work on it at the same time with a friend?
[20:36] <bekks> mojtaba: No.
[20:37] <ignacio_> Well, more than Drupal, maybe the apache2 server, I guess I should keep investigating
[20:37] <usr13> ignacio_: 755 for directories and 644 for files
[20:37] <mojtaba> bekks: Why? Are they planning to add this functionality? or is there any difficulty to do this?
[20:37] <ikonia> ignacio_: no software needs 777
[20:37] <jrib> ignacio_: you just need to make sure www-data (the user apache runs as) has access to the relevant directories...
[20:37] <ignacio_> And how do I do that?
[20:38] <ignacio_> I insert www-data to a group?
[20:38] <jrib> ignacio_: do you know what the relevant directories are?
[20:38] <bekks> mojtaba: Nope, they are not. Neither does Microsoft, Oracle, StarOffice, and all those others.
[20:38] <schultza> thought www-data was a group name?
[20:38] <jrib> schultza: it's both
[20:38] <usr13> ignacio_: I just put the directories served from in a /home/user directory and use synlinks.
[20:38] <usr13> ignacio_: In my opinion, it is easiest and most logical.
[20:39] <silmarils> ikonia, but like, all my apache and php configs will stay ?
[20:39] <ikonia> silmarils: please re-read what I said
[20:39] <usr13> ignacio_: That way, you don't need to assign any special group or use permissions, defaults work fine.
[20:40] <silmarils> ikonia, sorry
[20:40] <jrib> usr13: well with things like wikis and drupal there are directories where you want the web server to be able to write to them
[20:40] <kalaka> hey, i got a question about gpg keys
[20:41] <istiaque> How can make bootable usb disk ? Which soft use in linux ?
[20:42] <linguini> How can I get debug symbols for my kernel?
[20:42] <usr13> ignacio_: sudo -ln -s /home/ignacio_/public_html /srv/httpd/htodcs  #Where /srv/httpd/htdocs is the DocumentRoot setting.
[20:42] <ikonia> just change the document root
[20:42] <ikonia> no need for symlinks
[20:43] <ignacio_> So instead using /var/www/ I use a directory in /home/ignacio_/....
[20:43] <linguini> uname -r: 3.5.0-17-generic apt-cache search linux | grep 3.5 # shows nothing with debug symbols
[20:43] <usr13> ignacio_: Or you assign the name of your choosing.  ln -s /home/ignacio_/public_html /srv/httpd/htodcs/My-Site-Name
[20:43] <ignacio_> usr13: Ok I'll try that
[20:44] <usr13> ignacio_: That's the way I do it. (most webservers, apache included, follow symlinks by default).
[20:44] <ignacio_> usr13: Didn't know, I use very little the symlinks, mostly using aliases for day-to-day things, I'll try that
[20:45] <usr13> ignacio_: DocumentRoot is more-than-likely /var/www by defualt.
[20:46] <istiaque> How can make bootable usb disk ? Which soft use in linux ?
[20:46] <usr13> ignacio_: You might want to /join #apache  and ask for further info there.
[20:47] <ignacio_> usr13: Yeah good advice, :D, but the server-world is still very wild for me as I come from comfortable Windows XAMP
[20:47] <motaka2> wheatthin: Are you there?
[20:47] <usr13> ignacio_: It is more comfortable here, I assure you.
[20:48] <Colonel187> I need some printer help
[20:48] <usr13> ignacio_: ... once you learn where everything goes...
[20:48] <usr13> Colonel187: Ask away.
[20:48] <mehwork> how can i setup a secure ftp server in ubuntu?
[20:48] <motaka2> wheatthin: I am in for the new user, the version of ubuntu I am running is 12.04 and it recommends me to download 486MB!!!!! of updates. should I do that?
[20:48] <istiaque> How can make bootable usb disk ? Which soft use in linux ?
[20:49] <Colonel187> I added my printer through the printer app and it downloaded and installed the drivers however when I try to print anything it says can't find printer
[20:49] <wheatthin> motaka2, that's normal, after a fresh install you'll almost always have to update
[20:49] <usr13> istiaque: Re-phrase your question
[20:49] <Colonel187> It's a wireless network printer, it works on my laptop under ubuntu
[20:49] <linusoleander> Anyone know where I can download and install order version of nginx?
[20:49] <usr13> Colonel187: Just because you may have installed some new printer driver, does not mean you have configured it.  Direct your browser to localhost:631
[20:50] <usr13> Colonel187: firefox localhost:631
[20:50] <ignacio_> usr13: Yeah, at least that was true with linux time-efficiency as I'm starting to program usual tasks on Bash scripts
[20:50] <Colonel187> ok, i did mess around in cups. I fount some info on a forum about it
[20:50] <Colonel187> Cups sees my printer
[20:50] <motaka2> wheatthin: I had downloaded phpmyadmin and YED when I was in root, can I access those files from my new administrative user?
[20:51] <linusoleander> It must exist somewhere?
[20:51] <usr13> Colonel187: cups *is* your print server software.  Again:  firefox localhost:631
[20:52] <istiaque> which soft i can use when i  make a  bootable usb disk/stick
[20:52] <cgtdk> istiaque: dd
[20:52] <usr13> istiaque: What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:52] <Colonel187> i'm there. Nothing I messed with will allow me to print. I'm at a loss. I even pinged my printers ip address and it cann't connect to host. except it works under windows and on my laptop under ubuntu
[20:53] <usr13> Colonel187: Do you have a printer configured?  Is it "Ready"?  Can you print test page?  firefox loclahost:631
[20:53] <marianne> Colonel187: what 's the make and model of the printer... i missed it
[20:54] <Colonel187> it's ready but it cannot connect when I try to print a test page
[20:54] <schultza> usr13: check your url... localhost not loclahost
[20:54] <istiaque> distribute linux distro,, helping to the other people,,,
[20:54] <Colonel187> let me rephrase it is unable to locate printer
[20:54] <usr13> Colonel187: Click on "Printers".  Do you see your printer listed there?
[20:54] <Colonel187> yes
[20:54] <Colonel187> with a green check
[20:55] <usr13> Colonel187: A "green check"?
[20:55] <usr13> Colonel187: Do you have it set to a specific (static) IP?
[20:55] <Colonel187> you mean in cups or in the printers program
[20:55] <Colonel187> yes it is set to static
[20:55] <usr13> Colonel187: firefox localhost:631
[20:56] <Colonel187> yes it is listed there
[20:56] <Colonel187> status is unable to locate printer
[20:56] <usr13> Colonel187: Open the firefox web browser, (or which ever web browser you use).  In the address bar, type    localhost:631   Hit enter.
[20:56] <Colonel187> I'm there
[20:56] <wheatthin> motaka2, using phpmyadmin, you have to be root to make changes, but that's only while logging into phpmyadmin
[20:57] <usr13> Colonel187: "unable to locate printer" That should tell you *something*
[20:57] <Colonel187> right
[20:57] <usr13> Colonel187: DO you have the IP address correct?
[20:57] <Colonel187> I don't understand how to fix it. the printer has a static ip, cups was able to find my printer just fine in order to add it and auto download the drivers
[20:58] <Colonel187> I tried to ping the printers ip address and it's unable to locate. how can it be located to install but not to print?
[20:58] <marianne> Colonel187: is the printer an HP?
[20:58] <ikonia> what has ping got to do with printing ?
[20:58] <Colonel187> no it is an epson
[20:58] <istiaque> how can i write iso image usb disk/stick?
[20:59] <usr13> Colonel187: Well, I should back up just a bit.  Some printers now come with some setting that it doesn't really connect to the network, but just does an ad-hoc connection directly to a PC.  If that is the case, you are on your own.  I don't know, I guess it's just between you and your printer.  YOu have to figure out how to set that up, I don't know...
[20:59] <Colonel187> that is not the case. mine does both and it's set to network not ad-hoc
[21:00] <motaka2> wheatthin: How can I find YED editor that I have downloaded as root?
[21:00] <usr13> Colonel187: If that is the case, and there is some setting to tell it to connect directly to your Wireless AP, I would to that, (for simplicity sake).  At least to me, it would be simplier, then you just use the IP you set it to. But that is up to you.  Just look at your printer's config (the manual or whatever) and see.
[21:01] <zipy> zipy
[21:01] <cgtdk> istiaque: I already told you, dd
[21:01] <usr13> Colonel187: Ok, then just set it to a static IP, (or set up a static lease on your router) and away you go...
[21:01] <Colonel187> it is set up that way
[21:01] <usr13> Colonel187: What is the make and model of your printer?
[21:01] <zipy> bekks, ready? i got the squid3 error msg now :D
[21:01] <Colonel187> as I said it works on my laptop but not my pc, both running ubuntu 13.04
[21:01] <Colonel187> it's an epson artisan 810
[21:02] <zipy> !paste
 how can i install dd?
[21:02] <cgtdk> istiaque: It's probably already installed. It's a command line tool.
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> istiaque  dd if=blah.iso of=[usb stick]          <-- input file, output file
[21:02] <usr13> Colonel187: So what does it say after "Connection:" ?
[21:02] <zipy> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805967/
[21:03] <schultza> does 'pastebinit' still work!?
[21:03] <Colonel187> where do i find that status
[21:03] <usr13> Colonel187: Or just paste what you see on the screen.
[21:03] <ikonia> schultza: should to
[21:03] <Colonel187> ok one sec
[21:03] <usr13> Colonel187: http://localhost:631/printers/Name-of-Your-Printer
[21:03] <wiolet> where is the #mint channel at?
[21:03] <ikonia> wiolet: spotnet different irc network
[21:03] <usr13> !paste | Colonel187
[21:03] <ikonia> wiolet: read their webpage
[21:04] <schultza> !pastebinit
[21:04] <schultza> wiolet: do you mean ##linuxmint ?
[21:05] <usr13> Colonel187: After "Connection:" it should say something like   socket://192.168.1.5   #Where 192.168.1.5 is the IP of your printer.  Does it?
[21:05] <zipy> i tried to run tor + privoxy + squid 3 with this instructions: http://evilzone.org/anonymity/setup-your-own-proxy-with-squidprivoxytor-on-debian-like-distros-%28tutorial%29/ but after step 10, when i want to start squid3 "with squid3 -z" i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805967/ can someone help me? :D
[21:06] <Colonel187> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805981/
[21:06] <usr13> Colonel187: If you do not think you have specified the correct driver for it, click on "Administration" and choose to "Modify printer"
[21:06] <ikonia> zipy: you've not setup access lists
[21:07] <zipy> ikonia, where?
[21:07] <Colonel187> I've tried that too
[21:07] <ikonia> zipy: in squid....
[21:07] <zipy> in the squidconf?
[21:07] <ikonia> zipy: in the squid config yes
[21:07] <usr13> Colonel187: Connection:dnssd://EPSON76FC16._printer._tcp.local/    Does not look like an IP address to me.  So....?
[21:07] <schultza> is irc.gnome.org connected in this irc network?
[21:07] <zipy> k mom
[21:07] <zipy> ill check
[21:07] <Colonel187> I see that
[21:07] <Colonel187> how do i make is see the ip address
[21:07] <usr13> Colonel187: Can you ping EPSON76FC16._printer._tcp.local  ?
[21:07] <ikonia> zipy: please don't make stupid comments to me like "k mom" - I'm not your mother, so please do'nt talk to me like that
[21:08] <usr13> Colonel187: ping EPSON76FC16._printer._tcp.local   #Tell us what happens.
[21:08] <zipy> mom = moment
[21:08] <zipy> ^^
[21:08] <ikonia> zipy: than say "moment" rather than text speak,
[21:08] <usr13> !ping | Colonel187
[21:08] <zipy> kk sry
[21:08] <Colonel187> lol
[21:08] <ikonia> zipy: "sorry" not "sry"
[21:08] <zipy> -.-
[21:08] <zipy> ok ok sorry
[21:08] <Colonel187> unknown
[21:09] <usr13> Colonel187: Ok so you need to configure your printer.
[21:10] <usr13> Colonel187: Click Modify printer
[21:10] <Colonel187> ok
[21:11] <usr13> Colonel187: YOur printer is turned on and connected to the network right now.  Right?
[21:11] <Colonel187> yes
[21:11] <usr13> Okeydokey fire away
[21:11] <Colonel187> im still in the localhost:631 correct?
[21:12] <zipy> ikonia, istn the acl list the allowlist?
[21:12] <usr13> Colonel187: Yes.
[21:12] <ikonia> zipy: have you setup the acls ?
[21:12] <Colonel187> Not sure where modify is. I can go to manage?
[21:12] <zipy> acl home_network src 192.168.0.0/24 isnt this a setup?
[21:12] <ikonia> zipy: did YOU setup the acls'
[21:13] <zipy> no
[21:13] <ikonia> zipy: then no, it's not setup
[21:13] <zipy> but i thought its fine like that
[21:13] <zipy> but that is the right ip tho
[21:13] <ikonia> zipy: no, it's not
[21:13] <Colonel187> nevermind i found it
[21:13] <zipy> i just changed that line
[21:18] <zipy> ikona, what about line 3-5, whats wrong with that paste.ubuntu.com/5805967/
[21:18] <ikonia> zipy: have you read how to configure squic ACL's ?
[21:19] <zipy> is that warning also about the acl or r u talking about line 7?
[21:21] <foobArrr> is there an easy way to find out what process a window belongs to?
[21:25] <Fuchs> foobArrr: more or less
[21:25] <Fuchs> foobArrr: there is _NET_WM_PID  that you can read if it is set
[21:25] <Fuchs> xprop should give that
[21:25] <foobArrr> k, thanks
[21:27] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[21:27] <zipy> ikonia, i removed now all acls and http_access but acl localhost src 192.168.0.0/24 and the http_access allow home_network but i still get an error: cache_cf.cc(381) parseOneConfigFile: squid.conf:49 unrecognized: 'broken_vary_encoding'
[21:29] <OptimizedCoder> All, I need to know if I have grub/grub-legacy installed (ie. if I have GRUB1 or GRUB2)  I'm running WUBI..
[21:29] <OptimizedCoder> 'file -s /dev/sdx' does not even say that it has grub
[21:31] <Ben64> OptimizedCoder: the version should be at the bottom when grub starts
[21:31] <OptimizedCoder> Ben64, Any other way - to know after I;m booted in?
[21:31] <Ben64> dpkg -l | grep grub
[21:31] <thurstylark> where can I find the data dnsmasq has cached?
[21:32] <jerry_> nfs issue: mounted drive on server showing as empty on client. How to fix.
[21:34] <zipy> hmm someone can help me with my squid.conf? ive set up privoxy and tor yet
[21:36] <OptimizedCoder> Ben64, that helped - thanks!
[21:37] <usr13> thurstylark: Unless it is permanent caching, it's just in RAM
[21:38] <jerry_> I need help with nfs - I have a drive mounted under home on another precise box but it is showing a zero contents on nfs client also precise.
[21:39] <usr13> thurstylark: http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/dnsmasq-man.html
[21:40] <usr13> jerry_: Sure you have it pointed to correct directory?  Is that directory empty?
[21:41] <usr13> jerry_: Look at /etc/exports on the server and /etc/fstab on the client side to see what you have set up.
[21:41] <jerry_> i can see parent /home via nfs client but /home/500g-drive shows as empty on nfs client
[21:42] <xv> How do I install this? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-ux/
[21:42] <jerry_> i set up /home in /etc/exports
[21:42] <usr13> !paste | jerry_
[21:43] <Ben64> xv: you're on your own if you want to do that, it is unsupported in here
[21:43] <usr13> jerry_: pastebinit /etc/exports
[21:43] <xv> I've spent hours trying to figure it out
[21:43] <ikonia> xv: then you probably shouldn't be doing it
[21:43] <usr13> jerry_: And then on the client side: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[21:44] <xv> I have it on Windows; thought I'd try it on Ubuntu
[21:44] <ikonia> xv: that doesn't change what I just said
[21:44] <jerry_> be back in ten
[21:44] <Ben64> xv: you could try the ppa here... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa but it is unsupported here as well
[21:45] <xv> ok
[21:45] <ikonia> xv: Ben64's suggestion is something I'd advsise you stay clear of too
[21:45] <usr13> xv:  you just download the linux version, unzip it
[21:45] <xv> why's that ikonia?
[21:45] <usr13> xv: If you want to replace what you have, just put it where the other one is and name it appropriately.
[21:45] <ikonia> xv: because it may cause dependency conflicts
[21:45] <Ben64> usr13: thats a bad idea
[21:45] <usr13> xv: like firefox-24
[21:46] <xv> all this mind boggling terminology
[21:46] <usr13> Ben64: NO it isn't
[21:46] <ikonia> xv: and you're clearly not confident with what you are doing, so making these changes for no reason/without understanding of what you are doing is not good
[21:46] <fatNERD> my load avg just went up to 170. why so high?
[21:46] <ikonia> fatNERD: look at what your machine is doing
[21:46] <fatNERD> its moving files
[21:46] <fatNERD> but still 170 is way to high
[21:47] <ikonia> fatNERD: depends what it's doing and how
[21:47] <fatNERD> this machine only has 250 megs of ram
[21:48] <ikonia> fatNERD: ok, so there is a good reason why it's under load
[21:48] <usr13> xv: Just move what you extract.  mv firefox/ /usr/lib/firefox-24   and then change the symlink  ln -sf /usr/lib/firefox-24/firefox /usr/bin/  #If you want to replace the one you have with new one.
[21:48] <Ben64> usr13: still a bad idea
[21:48] <usr13> Ben64: Why is that?
[21:48] <pseudonymous> I'm trying to figure out why my ubuntu server (remote hosting) will not respond/boot its own OS anymore, which files can I tap into ? I can reset the box and boot a rescue-system, so I can read/modify the disk contents
[21:48] <usr13> Ben64: (Please explain.)
[21:49] <ikonia> pseudonymous: where does the boot fail ?
[21:49] <Ben64> 1. no updates; 2. harder to remove; 3. could cause conflicts/problems in apt
[21:49] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I have no clue, that's what I'm trying desparately to find out
[21:49] <ikonia> pseudonymous: what changed ?
[21:49] <Ben64> its a lot easier to remove a ppa (which is what i suggested) than manually extracted/installed programs
[21:49] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I'd be tempted to say "nothing" but obviously something did. I don't know, though.
[21:50] <ikonia> pseudonymous: what is the error when you try to boot it
[21:50] <Ceipher_> Looking for help with partitioning a USB 3.0 1TB Portable Drive for use as a stand-alone OS.
[21:50] <ikonia> Ceipher_: what's not clear ?
[21:50] <usr13> 1. Right, (he is updating on his own, that is clear). 2. Harder to remove?  What's wrong with rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox-24 ?   3. What conflicts?  (Again, please explain.)
[21:50] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I can't see, that's the issue, if I could watch as it booted there'd be no problem. I need a way to verify that a) it actually DID boot the entire OS and (B) some way of making it write a lot of debugging information for me, a la a rc.local script
[21:51] <ikonia> pseudonymous: just look in the syslog
[21:51] <pseudonymous> ikonia: and where would that be ?
[21:51] <ikonia> pseudonymous: or boot into recovery mode (you said that worked) and start each service manally and see what files
[21:51] <ikonia> pseudonymous: /var/log
[21:51] <Ceipher_> I'm not sure what type of partition are required for the installion to work directly from the usb drive. -Shrugs- Been at it a few days now.
[21:52] <ikonia> Ceipher_: standard MS dos partition table will be fine
[21:52] <Ceipher_> Size of swap-area?
[21:52] <usr13> Ben64: If an update for firefox comes along, it will just clobber what he has and he will be using the one that came to him from the repo, (unless he re-does the symlink).  Nothing much complicated or mysterious about that.
[21:52] <ikonia> Ceipher_: no special requirements, just treat it as an internal disk
[21:52] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I can't boot into any mode and see anything. it's a remotely hosted box. I can use a webinterface to boot some other recovery OS and mount the drive - hence why I can read/write to the Ubuntu partition, but that'sit
[21:52] <ikonia> Ceipher_: up to you, swap size is personal choice
[21:52] <ikonia> pseudonymous: ok, look at the syslog then
[21:52] <ikonia> pseudonymous: delete all the logs, try to boot it, let it fail, check the logs again
[21:53] <usr13> xv: But we should tell you that the latest stable release is v22
[21:53] <pseudonymous> ikonia: all the logs, as in the log directories under /var/log, too ?
[21:53] <ikonia> pseudonymous: well, apply logic, eg: no point in deleting / monitoring the apache logs as your machine is not booting that far
[21:53] <Ceipher_> So I need a Fat32 Primary, A root, a swap-area, and what type of systemfile part? dos?
[21:53] <ikonia> pseudonymous: however as you sound quite lost I'd suggest contacting your hosting provider for help
[21:54] <Ceipher_> I'm pretty much brand new to linux. >->
[21:54] <ikonia> !install | Ceipher_
[21:54] <ikonia> Ceipher_: also reading https://help.ubuntu.com will give you an overview on how to use/install ubuntu
[21:54] <pseudonymous> ikonia: well I'm just not at all used to or OK with the Ubuntu way of doing things. This is practically a different world from the Linux I know
[21:54] <gordonjcp> pseudonymous: all linuxes are pretty much the same
[21:54] <ikonia> pseudonymous: it's exactly the same as every other linux distro in logging terms
[21:55] <ggz> bye
[21:55] <ikonia> pseudonymous: trying to say "its' different" as a reason you don't know where the log directories are doesn't stand up well
[21:55] <SunMoonStar> Why does ubuntu installer download a google-chrome-stable update? I thought that google chrome updates itself.. ?
[21:55] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: it's package managed
[21:55] <SunMoonStar> so chrome does not auto-update itself?
[21:56] <usr13> Ben64: I'm not telling xv something I haven't tested.  It works and is not a problem.  Not trying to be contradictory, just want to be clear so we understand how it works.  It's not complicated, it's just a simple symlink and can ge changed at any time.
[21:56] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: it would be unwise to allow that
[21:56] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I don't see the point of arguing this, but logging daemons vary between distros and even if its the same, you define where to pipe which log messages out according to a config file. Ergo however ubuntu may divide log messages up into files differs from other distros
[21:56] <ikonia> pseudonymous: no
[21:56] <JoeyJoeJo> My server applies some iptables rules at boot. Where are those rules stored? I need to change them
[21:57] <Ceipher_> Can anyone point me to an example or guide of some sort for Partitioning a USB Drive? A list of important partitions or..something?
[21:57] <usr13> JoeyJoeJo: We don't know. But it is prlbably in /etc/init.d/firewall-something-or-other.
[21:57] <pseudonymous> ikonia: yes. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/security/security-handbook.xml?part=1&chap=3  -- the very first code-listing shows a config which routes different log messages to different files
[21:58] <JoeyJoeJo> Ceipher_: If you've got X check out gparted. It's pretty easy to get the hang of. Just play around with it using a disk with no important data on it in case something gets messed up
[21:58] <yofun> question. can i use more then two dns servers?
[21:59] <rypervenche> yofun: Sure.
[21:59] <yofun> k
[22:01] <Ceipher_> See everyone acts like this is as easy as I think it is, But I can't seem to get it going...Not on a liveusb drive anyway.
[22:01] <usr13> Ben64: You can try it out and see.  Download one and switch to it and see for yourself.  It is easy. If you don't have v22, try it.   See my PM if you need further info.
[22:01] <Ceipher_> The installion failed at some point during its detection of filesystem.
[22:02] <jerry> Need NFS help. home network all precise boxes. setup nfs server and client. I have a drive on server side mounted via fstab under /home. When looking at this drive from nfs client it shows as empty.
[22:03] <usr13> jerry: What do you need?
[22:04] <jerry> help. you wanted me to upload the /etc/exports but I didn't save the log from my last xchat seesion
[22:04] <fungus631> hey its me again... this time running kubuntu 13.04 and still having color depth problems after a month of toying around with ubuntu... anyone around that can help me with this problem? i believe my current color depth is 15
[22:05] <usr13> jerry: Sorry if I missed it.
[22:05] <usr13> jerry: pm ?
[22:05] <jerry> what is pm
[22:05] <usr13> private message?
[22:05] <usr13> jerry: In other words, see my private message....
[22:05] <usr13> Or not.....
[22:05] <jerry> how do i pm i'm new to xchat
[22:06] <usr13> jerry: I don't know.
[22:06] <yofun> jerry:  there should be a window tab that shows you usr13's pm
[22:06] <usr13> jerry: but it should just show up as a channel named jerry
[22:07] <nimbiotics> I dont know how my son managed to do it but I do not have the panels anymore. Please tell me how to restore the panels, this is making my life miserable. TIA!
[22:07] <Ceipher_> Anyone willing to help me with partitioning a USB
[22:07] <Lynxx> anyone know some good alternative desktop environments
[22:07] <yofun> nimbiotics:  you mean the side bars and such?
[22:08] <Lynxx> i've used kde, gnome, xfce
[22:08] <Ceipher_> ~Drive for use as a stand-alone...Please PM me~
[22:08] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:09] <yofun> Ceipher_:  you heard of gparted?
[22:09] <nimbiotics> yofun: yes
[22:10] <Ceipher_> Yes, I know how and what i can use. Its the partition types and sizes(P.size/Cluster sizes) I don't know what i am needing.
[22:10] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:10] <fungus631> hey its me again... this time running kubuntu 13.04 and still having color depth problems after a month of toying around with ubuntu... anyone around that can help me with this problem? i believe my current color depth is 15
[22:10] <yofun> Ceipher_:  what do you need?
[22:11] <yofun> nimbiotics:  hold on...
[22:12] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:12] <noobuntu> i see " & " at the end of a terminal command.. ex. firefox & .....what does that do?
[22:12] <Ceipher_> Some sort of lil list of needed partitions, IE: Root, Fat32, Swap-Area... Mostly just...What should i use as the file system? ext2...ext3...NTFS... as dos? or? -_-' Three days I've gotten little to no where on this.
[22:12] <fungus631> good luck im goin on a month
[22:13] <Ceipher_> You've at least installed lol
[22:13] <fungus631> yeah...
[22:13] <yofun> Ceipher_:  fat32 or ext4 or NTFS would work
[22:13] <yofun> i think NTFS would work on windows
[22:14] <Ceipher_> For a stand-alone USB 3.0 Drive.
[22:14] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:14] <nimbiotics> yofun: sure
[22:15] <OerHeks> fungus631, what videocard do you have?
[22:16] <yofun> nimbiotics:  im not 100% sure but this might help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels
[22:16] <OerHeks> copy the output of >  lspci | gep -i VGA
[22:16] <fungus631> intel 855gm
[22:16] <OerHeks> oops, missing r >> lspci | grep -i VGA
[22:17] <OerHeks> Intel should be supported standard, how much ram did you share with it, in your bios?
[22:17] <fungus631> no clue
[22:18] <fungus631> *scratches head* i can share ram in bios?
[22:18] <fungus631> dont recall any setting in bios for video
[22:19] <yofun> nimbiotics: just wondering have you tired a computer restart already?
[22:20] <OerHeks> fungus631, this page shows how you can get that GPU memory  size >> http://z-computer-z.blogspot.nl/2010/02/view-video-memory-display-memory-size.html
[22:24] <brian_petersen> I need some help recovering a couple files. I compressed a couple of files in my ubuntu system and copied them to a ntfs partition (acting as a shared drive between ubuntu and my windows environment). I though all was well and I installed arch over my ubuntu system and then booted my windows environment from a hidernation. It then "deleted" those files on the other partition and I NEED to restore them. How would I do this?
[22:25] <yofun> brian_petersen:  what? no back ups?
[22:25] <yofun> or copyed them?
[22:25] <fungus631> lspci -v -s 00:02.0 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])         Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff00         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16         Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]         Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]         I/O ports at 1800 [size=8
[22:25] <brian_petersen> yofun, that was my backup, I was just migrating to my new archlinux environment.
[22:26] <yofun> if you /really/ need them then i think theres a way to place your computer into single user mode and dig them up
[22:27] <OerHeks> fungus631, 128 mb would be enough, odd that the intel does not do 32 bit color
[22:27] <brian_petersen> what do you mean?
[22:27] <fungus631> what does this mean... what now
[22:27] <yofun> brian_petersen: hold on
[22:28] <yofun> brian_petersen:  you could try these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[22:30] <nimbiotics> yofun: ?
[22:30] <yofun> nimbiotics: just wondering have you tired a computer restart already?
[22:31] <fungus631> any help?
[22:31] <reisio> fungus631: with?
[22:31] <fungus631> ...
[22:31] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:32] <reisio> fungus631: what sort of issues?
[22:32] <philadams> quick question (irc noob): can you guys see this message?
[22:32] <reisio> philadams: I cannot
[22:32] <reisio> :D
[22:32] <philadams> reisio: thanks :)
[22:32] <fungus631> need to raise colr depth
[22:32] <reisio> philadams: if I could see your messages, I'd say you're welcome
[22:32] <reisio> fungus631: why's that?
[22:32] <fungus631> because it looks like shit
[22:33] <reisio> fungus631: screenshot?
[22:33] <deckard> are we supposed to restart Ubuntu after updates?
[22:33] <deckard> as a general rule
[22:33] <fungus631> look my color depth is set to 15 how do i raise it
[22:33] <reisio> deckard: as a general rule you shouldn't, really
[22:33] <reisio> deckard: unless there was a kernel update
[22:34] <deckard> ty
[22:34] <gordonjcp> or some other deep library update ;-)
[22:34] <reisio> as updating a kernel without rebooting is a little involved
[22:34] <deckard> should we run autoremove often?
[22:34] <gordonjcp> deckard: it can't hurt to restart, but you generally don't need to
[22:34] <reisio> gordonjcp: nah
[22:34] <reisio> it could hurt, it propagates silliness
[22:34] <fungus631> forgive me for being touchy but people help me out half ass and leave this has been an ongoing problem for a month
[22:34] <deckard> how do i know when its a kernal update/
[22:34] <gordonjcp> replacing a running kernel without rebooting is possible, but "entertaining"
[22:35] <reisio> :D
[22:35] <gordonjcp> deckard: it'll tell you it needs to restart to finish with the updates
[22:35] <fungus631> i assume adjusting color depth should be a relativly simple process
[22:35] <SunMoonStar> In an online course I'm taking , it says you can run the file as a script (bash file.sh) or as an executable (./file.sh).. The behavior is the same. What's the difference?
[22:35] <reisio> fungus631: how do you want to adjust it?
[22:35] <OerHeks> fungus631, i know, i just read this greek page ( translated with google) https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?p=283273  i think the i915 driver is loaded, and you need the ancient i810 ?
[22:35] <fungus631> RAISE IT TO #@
[22:35] <fungus631> 32
[22:35] <reisio> SunMoonStar: ./file can actually call whatever interpreter it likes
[22:36] <reisio> SunMoonStar: 'bash file' uses whatever 'type bash' says 'bash' is ATM
[22:36] <reisio> SunMoonStar: it's also frequently faster than running chmod +x file && ./file
[22:36] <SunMoonStar> reisio: ah okay
[22:36] <SunMoonStar> reisio: why is it necessary to set permissions on an executable but not on a script
[22:36] <reisio> also an executable file needn't be a shell script, it could be any manner of executable :)
[22:36] <reisio> SunMoonStar: it is
[22:37] <reisio> SunMoonStar: but when you say "hey bash run this", that's what bash does
[22:37] <SunMoonStar> ya but why does ./file require me to set permissions? it's saying hey executable run yourself
[22:37] <fungus631> FUCK
[22:37] <fungus631> FUCK
[22:37] <FloodBot1> fungus631: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <reisio> SunMoonStar: because permissions exist
[22:38] <SunMoonStar> so why doesn't that logic apply to bash file
[22:38] <reisio> SunMoonStar: it does, I just said
[22:38] <reisio> SunMoonStar: ./file and ./file.that.is.absolutely.a.bash.script is the same
[22:39] <reisio> SunMoonStar: but 'bash file' is different
[22:39] <reisio> it takes file as input to bash
[22:39] <reisio> doesn't matter if it's executable
[22:39] <fungus631> fuck all u dirty slack jawed jizz gurgling cumdrunks!
[22:39] <reisio> fungus631: :D
[22:40] <holstein> !language | fungus631
[22:40] <nimbiotics> yofun: thanks, will try!
[22:40] <SunMoonStar> Then my misunderstanding is with this statement: reisio: SunMoonStar: it's also frequently faster than running chmod +x file && ./file. Do I or do I not have to do chmod for the bash file command
[22:40] <bobek_balinek> Hi, my ubuntu server 12.04 is ramming 100% CPU on process 'tty1' for good hours, strace just logs:" trace(0, "") = 0 " in an infinite loop. Killing the process just stops it for couple of hours, then its back on full CPU again.
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> holstein  fungus631 is a bot
[22:40] <fungus631> and fuck u too u self righteous regurgitated afterbirth of a butfuck bullfrog
[22:40] <reisio> SunMoonStar: to run an executable, bash script or not, in the manner of './path/to/file', it must have +x
[22:41] <OerHeks> ... another happy user, next?
[22:41] <reisio> SunMoonStar: to have the executable 'bash' attempt to parse any particular file as a script, in the manner of 'bash path/to/file', +x is not required
[22:41] <reisio> OerHeks: :D
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> Then does it not negate the purpose of permissions if something without the proper permissions just circumvents the need for chmod and ./ by just using bash command instead
[22:41] <fungus631> linux users r nothing but a bunch of pretentious asshole pricks
[22:42] <reisio> fungus631: nah
[22:42] <holstein> !op
[22:42] <fungus631> oh yeah
[22:42] <reisio> SunMoonStar: it doesn't, entirely ;)
[22:42] <holstein> thats not what i wanted.. oppologies
[22:42] <Pricey> fungus631: /msg please? :)
[22:42] <SunMoonStar>  reiso I guess I have to do some reading then
[22:43] <reisio> SunMoonStar: you might also consider that many things in life are imperfect :D
[22:43] <tboat> hey all, I am attempting to get user files off an old Ubuntu HDD, it is connected via external USB.  however, it mounts /root only.  if i delete /root, will it then mount the next partition, which has /home on it?
[22:43] <SunMoonStar> reisio: I assume that it is too long of an answer to explain fully here
[22:43] <reisio> the purpose for +x is simple enough, though; some things you want to be treated as executable on their own, and some not
[22:43] <reisio> SunMoonStar: well, maybe I'm not awesome enough to explain it perfectly :D
[22:44] <SunMoonStar> reisio: I forgive you :P THank you for the help
[22:44] <reisio> tboat: see what /sbin/blkid says
[22:44] <holstein> tboat: i wouldnt delete things without more testing.. if its an emergency i usually use photorec from testdisk firts. then, i move on
[22:44] <holstein> first*
[22:44] <fungus016> theres a reason why linux blows big fat donkey dong and its because theres no fucking support... only a chatroom full of incompetent pretentious pricks
[22:45] <reisio> those apps are more if your filesystem has gone belly up, or you've accidentally deleted things
[22:45] <k1l_> fungus016: you had your chance. if you cant behave mature you are not welcome in here!
[22:45] <gordonjcp> fungus016: language...
[22:46] <holstein> i was thinking a partition not mounting would qualify as "belly-up"
[22:46] <reisio> incompetent (noun): not having the necessary skills to make the irrational rational
[22:46] <tboat> holstein: eh im never going to boot it again, and I know nothing I need is on /boot.  can photorec be run via commandline?
[22:46] <reisio> holstein: cart before the horse
[22:47] <tboat> reisio: it is unreadable
[22:47] <reisio> tboat: you need to check /sbin/blkid for other partitions first
[22:47] <reisio> tboat: according to?
[22:47] <tboat> reisio: it opens, however it is a bunch of 0's and letters
[22:48] <tboat> reisio: both through gedit and vim
[22:48] <reisio> tboat: it? Identified by what? Opens?
[22:48] <holstein> tboat: was it encrypted?
[22:48] <holstein> assuming it is referring to the partition that i was before assuming wasnt mounting
[22:48] <tboat> reisio: it was not encrypted by me, gedit says it has invalid characters.  says i can try choosing another character encoding and try again. currently on UTF-8
[22:48] <reisio> tboat: gedit says what has
[22:49] <someguy_999> has anyone created a local Ubuntu Archive Mirror without using apt-cache , apt-mirror, or debmirror but from just the local Ubuntu DVD??? This is just to create an automated install, where bandwidth is an issue, and NO a local apt-repo is not picked up as a Local Ubuntu Archive Mirror....
[22:49] <tboat> reisio: /sbin/blkid
[22:49] <reisio> someguy_999: probably
[22:49] <reisio> tboat: what about /sbin/blkid
[22:49] <reisio> use complete sentences, be precise
[22:49] <tboat> reisio: that is what gives me the gedit error
[22:49] <holstein> someguy_999: apt on cd ? is that what you are looking for?
[22:50] <reisio> tboat: no, /sbin/blkid does not give you a gedit error
[22:50] <someguy_999> into an apt-cd
[22:50] <someguy_999> and also
[22:50] <someguy_999> holstein the issue is how do I turn ubuntu server dvd
[22:50] <nimbiotics> yofun: thanks again, it worked like a charm!
[22:50] <someguy_999> this is not seen as a Ubuntu Archive mirror
[22:50] <someguy_999> for example
[22:50] <tboat> reisio: it does when you attempt to open blkid haha, didn't realize you meant that as a command
[22:50] <someguy_999> and publish it in apache
[22:50] <someguy_999> I could create a local apt repo
[22:50] <someguy_999> using
[22:50] <yofun> no problem nimbiotics the first thing i aways do is try a restart then ask for help :)
[22:51] <yofun> nimbiotics:  in some cases i mean :)
[22:51] <yofun> not all
[22:51] <someguy_999> but this will not pick it up as a Ubuntu Archive mirror
[22:51] <someguy_999> as it does not have the folder structures
[22:51] <someguy_999> dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz
[22:51] <someguy_999> which soemthign liek apt mirror would create
[22:51] <someguy_999> so the dream
[22:52] <someguy_999> publish it in apache
[22:52] <someguy_999> is create a Ubuntu archive mirror from the Ubuntu DVD
[22:52] <someguy_999> kickstart it using cobbler
[22:52] <reisio> tboat: heheheh :)
[22:52] <someguy_999> point it to the local mirror
[22:52] <holstein> someguy_999: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#CD-ROM.2BAC8-DVD-1
[22:52] <someguy_999> and install it
[22:52] <someguy_999> .. however thats the issue creating the local mirror from the DVD
[22:53] <tboat> reisio: so /sbin/blkid shows this for my second HDD, the one I want access to: sdb1: UUID type=ext2 sdb5: UUID type=LVM2_member
[22:53] <nimbiotics> :)
[22:53] <reisio> tboat: so sdb5
[22:53] <someguy_999> holstein ubuntu server starts different
[22:54] <holstein> someguy_999: sure.. and that should be a similar process.. adding it to the sources
[22:54] <reisio> tboat: read something like http://linuxers.org/howto/how-mount-linux-lvm-volume-partitions-linux
[22:54] <roasted> Question - am I under the correct understanding that if I have a GPT table and install using guided partitioning, Ubuntu will auto install the proper efi partitions and whatnot? I'm finding on this laptop (Lenovo X130e) that I cannot install using EFI. The only way it'll succeed is if I disable UEFI and then install... I just thought that with UEFI enabled, Ubuntu would work, but I just go into a boot loop when installed with UEFI enabled/guided
[22:54] <roasted> partitioning. Eh?
[22:55] <someguy_999> holstein this is an auto install there are no sources file
[22:55] <someguy_999> is grabs it from a preseed file
[22:56] <holstein> someguy_999: you installed ubuntu server? and you have not sources?
[22:57] <tboat> reisio: you are my effin hero thank you!
[22:57] <someguy_999> holsetain this is BEFORE it's installed
[22:57] <someguy_999> aka auto installer preseed
[22:57] <reisio> tboat: :p
[22:58] <holstein> someguy_999: just install, and use a CD as the sources.. otherwise, if its not installed, i dont understand what you are trying to install, or how.. there is not live environment in the stock ubuntu server iso AFAIK
[22:58] <someguy_999> holstein it's ok i will look for antoher way, that has already been achived sigh
[22:58] <holstein> !minimal | someguy_999
[22:59] <reisio> heh
[22:59] <holstein> someguy_999: you install minimal.. then you configure it to use the way you want.. not the other way
[22:59] <someguy_999> Your not getting it fins
[22:59] <someguy_999> fine
[22:59] <reisio> why keep 7MB of bloat off the ordinary install image when you can create a whole set of other images :p
[23:01] <sparr> What's a good simple program to record a video from a webcam in a decently compressed video codec?
[23:01] <holstein> sparr: cheese too simple?
[23:01] <reisio> sparr: with a GUI?
[23:01] <litepool> can anyone help me with port forwarding
[23:02] <yofun> litepool:  what router?
[23:02] <litepool> just in ubuntu
[23:02] <litepool> iptables
[23:02] <sparr> reisio: yes, preferably one with just one button, record/stop.
[23:03] <reisio> sparr: heh
[23:03] <sparr> cheese sounds like it might work
[23:03] <mnemon> litepool: what's the problem?
[23:03] <hapster> Hi now that it was announced that ubuntu 13.10 will ship with Mir, will this mean only laptops with intel graphics will be able to take advantage of it?
[23:03] <litepool> trying to forward a public 3333 port to a remote ips 3333 port mnemon
[23:04] <litepool> for example all incomming connections on myip:3333 to remoteip:333
[23:04] <litepool> for example all incomming connections on myip:3333 to remoteip:3333
[23:05] <reisio> hapster: you mean 14.04?
[23:05] <nogal> so, I can't seem to find documentation for this, how does one run a startup script at login as the user instead of root?
[23:05] <[UT]> Hi Everyone!
[23:05] <nogal> using lightdm
[23:05] <kelly> hi guys i want to ask about texture filter option in compiz ? what is it for ?
[23:05] <hapster> it says here 13.10 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mir-display-server-to-ship-default-in-ubuntu-13-10
[23:06] <reisio> nogal: before login?
[23:06] <mnemon> litepool: you can use the nat table for that ... can't remember the directives to get thet working off the top of my head though
[23:06] <nogal> reisio: no, at/after login
[23:06] <mnemon> sec
[23:06] <reisio> kelly: ask #compiz
[23:06] <holstein> hapster: try #ubuntu+1
[23:06] <litepool> would really help if you gave the command mnemon you have no idea how much stuff its doing
[23:06] <reisio> nogal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[23:06] <reisio> nogal: that is: use GNOME
[23:07] <prsteele> Hello; can anyone recommend a partitioning scheme for me? I'm going to have a fast, small SSD and a large, slow HDD
[23:07] <kelly> ok is it risky to disable apport ?
[23:07] <reisio> GNOME's auto run stuff
[23:07] <reisio> prsteele: /dev/sda1 / /dev/sdb1 /home/
[23:07] <nogal> reisio: i'm using xmonad atm, will this still work? (i still have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed)
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> hapster  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:08] <reisio> nogal: nope
[23:08] <hapster> MonkeyDust ok
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> oh holstein already said it
[23:08] <prsteele> reisio: so /home on HDD, and everything else (/, /usr/ /swap) on SDD?
[23:09] <nogal> reisio: didn't think so... i've got a hack in my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf taht I worked together but it's (obviously) running as root -- erego not quitting out on logut
[23:09] <reisio> prsteele: sounds good to me
[23:09] <prsteele> reisio: Thanks; I've always just done whatever the installer wanted, but I've never had fast v. slow drives
[23:10] <reisio> nogal: most wms implement some kind of ~/autostart type dir, but I don't know if xmonad does
[23:10] <nogal> reisio: it does not, I was hoping to do it more of a "correct" way and not rely on the window manager
[23:10] <nogal> reisio: akin to ~/.xinitrc
[23:10] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys hi !
[23:11] <reisio> nogal: how is that more correct?
[23:11] <mnemon> litepool: http://linux.die.net/man/8/iptables see DNAT
[23:11] <reisio> prsteele: :D
[23:11] <mrtAkdeniz> My usb wireless mouse was not working, then I wrote lsusb on terminal, there wasn't any thing about mouse, then un-plugged mouse adapter and connected again, then I wrote lsusb again
[23:11] <reisio> prsteele: you could look into swap on the hdd
[23:12] <mrtAkdeniz> There was a Xenta option, any my mouse is working now
[23:12] <FiremanEd> +
[23:12] <nogal> reisio: taht'd get into a religous war I don't intend to spark. :P
[23:12] <reisio> prsteele: but it's really just a matter of considering how soon you'll need to replace the ssd, and how soon you can afford to
[23:12] <mrtAkdeniz> I have to re-connect my wireless adapter for every reboot
[23:12] <mrtAkdeniz> Can we do sth to fix it?
[23:12] <prsteele> reisio: I'm not that cramped for space; something like 120G on the SSD...
[23:12] <litepool> mnemon can you give me an example command? not trying to be lazy but i tried something ealier and it didn't work
[23:12] <prsteele> reisio: OH. I didn't even think of that
[23:13] <litepool> i tried
[23:13] <prsteele> reiso: this partioning scheme will let me blow away an install and reinstall without touching home, right?
[23:13] <reisio> prsteele: well, you'll see the best gains by putting the files you access the most (the OS files, not personal files) on the faster disk
[23:13] <litepool> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -j DNAT --to myremoteip:3333
[23:13] <mnemon> litepool: so iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING --dport 3333 -d <yourip> -J DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:3333 would forward the connection
[23:13] <reisio> prsteele: yes, as unimportant as that is :)
[23:13] <Kaytoo> is it a good idea to encrypt your hd using turecrypt
[23:13] <reisio> nogal: if you want to use ~/.xinitrc, stop using lightdm
[23:13] <prsteele> reisio: thanks again
[23:14] <kelly> is it risky to disable apport ?
[23:14] <litepool> mnemon yourip is remote ip?
[23:14] <mnemon> no, it's the ip of the forwarding interface
[23:14] <reisio> prsteele: you might want to shop around for the best FS for the SSD, too
[23:14] <prsteele> reisio: so not just ext3?
[23:14] <mnemon> so the public ip, 127.0.0.1 should be switched to the remote/target up
[23:14] <mnemon> *ip
[23:14] <reisio> kelly: for the compiz texture plugin?
[23:14] <reisio> kelly: it's very hard to imagine that being risky
[23:15] <reisio> prsteele: yeah, and probably not even ext4
[23:15] <compdoc> I think Ubuntu has defualted to ext4 for a couple of releases now
[23:15] <litepool> mnemon just so i get it clear, when someone access myip:3333 they get remoteip:3333
[23:15] <reisio> ext4 without a journal might be okay, but you could probably do better
[23:15] <reisio> prsteele: do some searching, something will jump out at you
[23:15] <nogal> reisio: probably just gonna ditch 'buntu altogether honestly, need me an external hard-drive :P  Just figured lightdm had some way of handling it. I'll patch something together in the meantime.
[23:15] <mnemon> litepool: iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING --dport 3333 -d myip -J DNAT --to remoteip:3333
[23:15] <tboat> hey if i wanted to create a partition for a new users /home directory, which format should i use for the partition?
[23:15] <reisio> it probably has, but lightdm isn't so light to be a good pairing with xmonad, tbh
[23:15] <prsteele> reisio: thanks
[23:15] <reisio> tboat: ext4 should do
[23:16] <mnemon> litepool: iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -d myip -J DNAT --to remoteip:3333 actually ...
[23:16] <reisio> prsteele: ssd, swap, fs, trim, journal :D
[23:16] <reisio> prsteele: but don't put more time into the research than it'll take you to earn money to buy a replacement ssd :D
[23:16] <tboat> reisio: should it be handled in LVM, or is gparted alright to use?
[23:16] <reisio> tboat: gparted is alright
[23:17] <reisio> especially for something you only ever intend to be a single partition of a fixed size
[23:17] <tboat> reisio: cool, cool thanks again! :D
[23:17] <litepool> mnemon, thank you, myip being localhost? do i do anything else
[23:17] <prsteele> reisio: heh
[23:17] <litepool> iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -d 127.0.0.1 -J DNAT --to 89.207.129.94:3333
[23:17] <reisio> tboat: if you're using lvm for everything else, it might be nice to use, but lvm is not so important
[23:17] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys is there any irc help channel?
[23:17] <litepool> or
[23:17] <mrtAkdeniz> I have aproblem with xchat
[23:17] <mnemon> litepool: myip should be the ip that the client connects to
[23:17] <litepool> iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -d
[23:17] <litepool> 176.67.160.69 -J DNAT --to 89.207.129.94:3333
[23:18] <Kaytoo> is it a good idea to encrypt your hd using turecrypt
[23:18] <tboat> reisio: I will read more about LVM and look into it
[23:19] <litepool> ormnemon iptables v1.4.12: unknown option "-J"
[23:19] <reisio> Kaytoo: that depends
[23:19] <tboat> 4 GB of 596 transferred, sigh. back to getting steam cards!
[23:19] <reisio> Kaytoo: are you afraid someone might access your data and this might get you into trouble?
[23:19] <litepool> mnemon
[23:19] <mnemon> litepool: accidentally capitalized it, should be -j
[23:20] <reisio> Kaytoo: and: do you need (or want) to "easily" access this potentially encrypted data from operating systems other than free Unixes?
[23:21] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, is there any way I can restore Ubuntu 13.04 to default settings (default packages and all) without reinstalling it? Maybe something similar to Windows 8's Refresh feature?
[23:21] <litepool> mnemon thanks!
[23:21] <litepool> iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `NAT': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[23:21] <litepool> though
[23:21] <Kaytoo> reisio:i just dont want my hd expose to the internet when i logon
[23:21] <mnemon> litepool: try nat
[23:22] <litepool> don't work :/
[23:23] <mnemon> litepool: does iptables -t nat -L work?
[23:24] <litepool> http://pastie.org/8087807 mnemon
[23:24] <litepool> should i flush it
[23:24] <mnemon> litepool: would probably be a good idea :)
[23:24] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, is there any way I can restore Ubuntu 13.04 to default settings (default packages and all) without reinstalling it? Maybe something similar to Windows 8's Refresh feature?
[23:25] <reisio> Kaytoo: truecrypt won't help at all with that
[23:25] <reisio> Kaytoo: unless by 'my hd' you mean an hd entirely separate from the one/s you use for your OS
[23:25] <litepool> mnemon ok i flushed it, still couldn't get that command to work though
[23:28] <Kaytoo> reisio:is it possible to encrypt the working hd over the net
[23:29] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, is there any way I can restore Ubuntu 13.04 to default settings (default packages and all) without reinstalling it? Maybe something similar to Windows 8's Refresh feature?
[23:30] <reisio> Kaytoo: hrmm?
[23:30] <reisio> CorruptedHelix: yes
[23:30] <reisio> CorruptedHelix: it might take longer than "reinstalling", though, depending
[23:30] <reisio> if you hadn't planned on doing it ahead of time, that is
[23:30] <CorruptedHelix> How so?
[23:31] <CorruptedHelix> Mostly, I want to nuke my 3rd party downloads from the software center, if that's possible instead.
[23:31] <reisio> CorruptedHelix: things that take less time to accomplish than other things do not take longer
[23:31] <CorruptedHelix> Because removing them one by one is painstaking.
[23:31] <withnale> I've bought a sandisk clip+ little mp3 player and having real trouble with it with ubuntu. I can boot it and see it in nautilus but whenever I try to sync to it from either rhythmbox or banshee both of them bomb out. Any ideas how to fix it? I've tried MSC and MTP mode
[23:31] <reisio> there's a log somewhere, /var/apt maybe
[23:32] <CorruptedHelix> What about the log?
[23:32] <CorruptedHelix> Actually? Let me boot out of Windows and into Ubuntu real fast... I'll be right back.
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix_> Okay, I'm back.
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix_> Gotta love how GNOME doesn't like AMD drivers. It's causing a lot of artifacts, too.
[23:36] <CorruptedHelix_> Didn't happen before I installed the drivers. Anyways, back on topic. How to nuke my software center installations or plainly refresh the OS without re-installing it?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> <CorruptedHelix_> Gotta love how GNOME doesn't like AMD drivers. It's causing a lot of artifacts, too. ---> you using proprietary or open source?
[23:37] <CorruptedHelix> I got kicked...
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> <CorruptedHelix_> Gotta love how GNOME doesn't like AMD drivers. It's causing a lot of artifacts, too. ---> you using proprietary or open source?
[23:38] <CorruptedHelix> Proprietary. I typed that and I got kicked, by the way.
[23:38] <CorruptedHelix> I did it an an attempt to make Ubuntu a viable gaming OS, because I prefer it over Windows.
[23:39] <CorruptedHelix> Turns out my card sucks at rendering OpenGL anyways, so I had no hope with games
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, ah, yeah if you're a gamer, I guess you'd use fglrx. but if you aren't, go back to open source
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> it's better than fglrx
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> (fglrx had terrible 2d acceleration)
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, what card do you have?
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> Please don't laugh.
[23:40] <Stars> hi, kinda off topic, does anyone know what software does protect DDoS attacks?
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> ATX 4200
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> O__o
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> Mobile
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> derp
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> What does that command do, fix my drivers? :p
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, no it displays it, I prefer you to c/p the output after typing it in terminal
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> Ah.
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> Either will work, or do I copy the entire thing?
[23:41] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, type this whole thing in terminal: lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> Sure, after I find terminal. I installed KDE for some reason I forget, and it installed all of it's extra stuff too
[23:42] <Ari-Yang> kk
[23:42] <CorruptedHelix> Turns out that stuff doesn't get removed when you remove KDE
[23:42] <CorruptedHelix> :l
[23:42] <CorruptedHelix> holy crap
[23:42] <CorruptedHelix> My terminal is green
[23:42] <CorruptedHelix> this'll hurt
[23:42] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, btw what proprietary driver did you try? fglrx or fglrx-updates ? (assuming proprietary driver is fglrx)
[23:43] <CorruptedHelix> Uh, let me look at my Software Center history. It's been a while since I booted into Ubuntu since I got fed up trying to remove all the stuff KDE added.
[23:44] <CorruptedHelix> Yeah, fglrx. I searched that in the software center and downloaded the package.
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, well if you tried out the proprietary driver, and you got glitches and what not and went back to open source, nothing you can do really
[23:45] <CorruptedHelix> I didn't uninstall it yet, nor was this my actual problem, you just jumped on it :p
[23:45] <CorruptedHelix> My original problem was if there was a way I could refresh Ubuntu 13.04 without reinstalling it (don't want to mess with partitions, if possible?), or simply nuking my third-party installs on the software center.
[23:46] <CorruptedHelix> You know, a way to refresh similar to how Windows 8 can.
[23:46]  * Ari-Yang shrugs
[23:46] <Ari-Yang> I'm not sure, guess it looks like you can google that while hanging tight here until someone can get to you with an answer
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> Any easy way to get rid of everything KDE added, then?
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> Way too much stuff.
[23:47] <mnemon> litepool: still complaining about the nat table?
[23:47] <litepool> yeah
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, how did you remove KDE?
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> if I were you I would've run for e.g. sudo aptitude purge KDE
[23:47] <mnemon> because from the list you showed me it looks like it did add the stuff there ...
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> I removed the KDE desktop enviroment via the software center, and it left everything behind, including LXDE.
[23:48] <Ari-Yang> or whatever KDE package is called
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> Should I just reinstall it and then do that?
[23:48] <mnemon> litepool: see from iptables -t nat -L if the stuff is there
[23:48] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, you can do that, might as well seeing how you got everything else besides KDE...
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> Uh, I'll remove fglrx first
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> my eyes are bleeding
[23:49] <BAMbanda> How do I view any hidden .swp files that I may have in a directory?
[23:49] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, make sure you do it right
[23:49] <litepool> mnemon my friend told me to do  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -j DNAT --to 89.207.129.94:3333 and then iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING  -j MASQUERADE before and he said it should work, but it didn't for some reason i don't know why
[23:49] <litepool> i think thats what added it, right now theres nothing there after flush mnemon
[23:49] <CorruptedHelix> I'm removing it the same way I installed it.
[23:49] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, I'd select the open source driver in additional drivers tab
[23:49] <Ari-Yang> which afaik replaces itself with fglrx
[23:50] <Ari-Yang> then reboot
[23:50] <mnemon> litepool: ok, so try adding it again and see if it appears there.
[23:50] <BAMbanda> how can I view hidden .swp files
[23:50] <CorruptedHelix> Where would I find that in the GNOME 2 environment? I was using GNOME 3, so it would be easier to find, but when I installed KDE it forced me into GNOME 2 regardless of which GNOME version I selected at the login menu
[23:51] <reisio> BAMbanda: view the contents?
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, check Software sources settings
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> there should be an 'Additional Drivers' tab
[23:52] <litepool> mnemon http://pastie.org/private/f7pkrrztuoqzrclfwzeoxq
[23:52] <BAMbanda> reisio, no but just if there is a .swp file somewhere in the directory. I'm trying to package a project and I think it might be interfering with the install
[23:52] <CorruptedHelix> Given that this is after I uninstalled fglrx, it now says there are no proprietary drivers in use
[23:52] <CorruptedHelix> Shall I reboot?
[23:53] <_______________-> CorruptedHelix, logout and login
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, yes reboot
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> make sure the open source driver is active
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> (in addtional drivers)
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> * additional
[23:53] <CorruptedHelix> All it shows me is a grayed out window and tells me there are no propriety drivers active
[23:54] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, http://gyazo.com/bbcb6b1dba1a4cb5a63ee30dcfb7b692
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> you don't see that?
[23:55] <reisio> BAMbanda: find start/path/ -iname '*swp*'
[23:55] <reisio> BAMbanda: find start/path/ -iname '*swp*' -o -iname '*~', etc.
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> x.org x server <-- CorruptedHelix that driver
[23:55] <CorruptedHelix> Don't see any of that.
[23:55] <BAMbanda> reisio, would it be hidden or should I be able to see it
[23:55] <mnemon> litepool: our friend was right except you need to specify the -d otherwise it might do funny things like rewrite the replies if the connection comes from port 3333
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, well you could reboot now I guess, maybe ubuntu will automatically choose that for you?
[23:56] <reisio> BAMbanda: varies by editor that created them
[23:56] <mnemon> *your
[23:56] <BAMbanda> vim?
[23:56] <litepool> mnemon my other friend said i have to do sysctl goign to try that now
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, open up synaptic
[23:57] <banzounet> Hey guys, where is the log file of apache ? cause when I try to reload the config (service apache2 reload) it fails, and I don't know where to look
[23:57] <Ari-Yang> and search for xserver-xorg
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> Would the open source drivers be something I'd need to install? I didn't install anything like graphics drivers after I installed Ubuntu
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> So it must've come with it.
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> Anyways, I'll reboot.
[23:59] <BankZ> that terminal program do you guys like?  I am looking for something like iterm2 on the mac