[00:06] <OvenWerks> Takes three programs to get them all in too.
[00:11] <OvenWerks> Hmm Thunar has no text... just squares.
[00:56] <OvenWerks> removed some config files, rebooted ok.
[01:09] <OvenWerks> I am guessing that the change in the font name(or package name) may have caused that.
[01:12] <OvenWerks> As with other upgrades, my machine is less responcive. When we have a new ISO I will see if that is better
[01:12] <OvenWerks> s/onc/ons/
[01:12] <kubotu> OvenWerks meant: "As with other upgrades, my machine is less responsive. When we have a new ISO I will see if that is better"
[05:03] <OvenWerks> holstein: why are people so afraid of the terminal?
[13:56] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: I did a small change in the seeds we should see if it works today.
[13:57] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, yeah!
[13:57] <OvenWerks> if not, the osspd package may have a bug
[13:57] <smartboyhw> Hmm, let me see...
[13:57] <OvenWerks> it should have a replaces line in it
[13:58] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, I've activated a rebuild of images.
[13:58] <smartboyhw> So we can know the results faster:)
[13:58] <OvenWerks> in my case... I have 8 hrs of works before I care again :)
[13:58] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, :)
[13:59] <OvenWerks> Bye for now
[15:12] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, zequence YEAH! WE GOT A NEW BUILD!
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Cheers!
[16:03] <zequence> OvenWerks: How did you spot the build error? I was trying to find some meaningful fail logs yesterday
[20:53] <OvenWerks> zequence: smartboyhw told me about it. He would know.
[20:54] <OvenWerks> I just took what he said and thought what I could do to fix it.
[20:55] <OvenWerks> The change is in the desktop meta, because it is to do with pulse and desktop audio.
[20:56] <OvenWerks> All of the build fail emails I have got are empty, So I don't know where to look for the logs.
[21:01] <cub> I'm not sure, smartboyhw discovered it while we discussed why my Saucy installations kept failing
[21:02] <OvenWerks> I have to ask him when next he is on.
[21:02] <cub> * smartboyhw has to look at the buildlogs of how images fail.
 osspd: Conflicts: oss-compat. What?
[21:03] <cub> we still couldn't figure out why my saucy installation included wine by default though.
[21:04] <OvenWerks> LMMS pulls it in
[21:06] <cub> aha
[21:06] <cub> he said there was nothing that would point to wine, but there we have it.
[21:06] <cub> is it because of being able to use vst plugins or why does LMMS want it?
[21:07] <OvenWerks> Ya, for VST. but I thought it was only for 32bit ISO
[21:08] <cub> yes, I couldn't get amd64 to install, so I tried i386 which installed alright (but then had other issues)
[21:08] <OvenWerks> wine is knda weird. It is all 32bit libs, but can run on a 64bit machines, but the install process filters out 32bit packages.
[21:09] <cub> I never got anything to run properly in wine so I have given up on it
[21:10] <OvenWerks> so it is possible to have a 64bit LMMS with  a 32bit wine, but not from ubuntu repos.
[21:10] <cub> aha
[21:10] <cub> but now that a new iso have been built I'll make another run at getting the 64bit version up in my virtualbox 
[21:10] <OvenWerks> Wine just keeps getting better... but I have nothing to run on it... except "hulls.exe"
[21:11] <cub> way back I wanted to run Internet Explorer to check web pages, but it never worked
[21:11] <OvenWerks> So I do have much chance for failure either
[21:12] <OvenWerks> I thought wine came with that...
[21:12] <OvenWerks> nope, just the file explorer
[21:14] <cub> this was back in 2000. :D Then I tried it again a few years back when my work required me to use some windows application
[21:14] <cub> didn't work and I ended up being forced to windows machine.
[21:17] <OvenWerks> The computers I used to use at work were all machine control, so whatever they ran was what I used... VMS and NT as happens.
[21:19] <cub> what kind of work?
[21:19] <OvenWerks> I used to fix mail sorting machines at Canada Post
[21:20] <cub> cool
[21:21] <OvenWerks> We moved from the Vancouver area so I am now delivering mail.
[21:21] <OvenWerks> Lots of fresh air :)
[21:23] <cub> I'm still in an office all day
[21:23] <OvenWerks> I'm about half and half
[21:23] <cub> which reminds me, I should get to bed to manage another day at the office tomorrow!
[21:23] <cub> g'nite
[21:23] <OvenWerks> GN then
[21:35] <zequence> OvenWerks: Ok. I looked through the build log, but it wasn't revealing anything. The posts on the mail list were kind of mute
[21:36] <OvenWerks> Where do I find the build log?
[21:36] <zequence> Let me get the link..
[21:36] <OvenWerks> I have been googling but not finding
[21:37] <zequence> OvenWerks: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/saucy/
[21:37] <zequence> There is some other stuff that might be interesting to look through on that site
[21:37] <zequence> All Ubuntu members may upload their own stuff too
[21:37] <zequence> ah, sorry
[21:38] <zequence> there's also http://people.ubuntu.com
[21:38] <zequence> mixed those up
[21:38] <zequence> so, the second one is for ubuntu members
[21:38] <zequence> not possible to browse, I think (the latter)
[21:40] <zequence> anyway, this here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/
[21:40] <OvenWerks> Ya, I get sent to the wiki
[21:40] <zequence> Ahh
[21:40] <zequence> OvenWerks: I was looking the wrong place
[21:41] <zequence> OvenWerks: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/saucy/ubuntustudio-dvd/20130625/livecd-20130625-amd64.out
[21:41] <zequence> That's one of the ones that failed
[21:41] <zequence> I'm thinking the reason why the log didnt' show on mail list is there's a maximum lenght for posts
[21:41] <OvenWerks> Some one got it though.
[21:41] <OvenWerks> So it got fixed
[21:42] <OvenWerks> I'll keep a bookmark so I can find it next time
[21:43] <zequence> The good thing about having text logs in a url like that is you can retrieve info using scripts or aliases for your bash
[21:43] <zequence> Well, maybe not those logs, when I come to think about it
[21:44] <zequence> I just saw there was a current and latest folder, but the names are still a bit custom
[21:45] <zequence> but still, managable, if you ask for logs of a specific date