[00:06] Takes three programs to get them all in too. [00:11] Hmm Thunar has no text... just squares. [00:56] removed some config files, rebooted ok. [01:09] I am guessing that the change in the font name(or package name) may have caused that. [01:12] As with other upgrades, my machine is less responcive. When we have a new ISO I will see if that is better [01:12] s/onc/ons/ [01:12] OvenWerks meant: "As with other upgrades, my machine is less responsive. When we have a new ISO I will see if that is better" [05:03] holstein: why are people so afraid of the terminal? [13:56] smartboyhw: I did a small change in the seeds we should see if it works today. [13:57] OvenWerks, yeah! [13:57] if not, the osspd package may have a bug [13:57] Hmm, let me see... [13:57] it should have a replaces line in it [13:58] OvenWerks, I've activated a rebuild of images. [13:58] So we can know the results faster:) [13:58] in my case... I have 8 hrs of works before I care again :) [13:58] OvenWerks, :) [13:59] Bye for now [15:12] OvenWerks, zequence YEAH! WE GOT A NEW BUILD! [15:12] Cheers! === contrapunctus is now known as HisaoNakai === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [16:03] OvenWerks: How did you spot the build error? I was trying to find some meaningful fail logs yesterday [20:53] zequence: smartboyhw told me about it. He would know. [20:54] I just took what he said and thought what I could do to fix it. [20:55] The change is in the desktop meta, because it is to do with pulse and desktop audio. [20:56] All of the build fail emails I have got are empty, So I don't know where to look for the logs. [21:01] I'm not sure, smartboyhw discovered it while we discussed why my Saucy installations kept failing [21:02] I have to ask him when next he is on. [21:02] * smartboyhw has to look at the buildlogs of how images fail. [21:02] osspd: Conflicts: oss-compat. What? [21:03] we still couldn't figure out why my saucy installation included wine by default though. [21:04] LMMS pulls it in [21:06] aha [21:06] he said there was nothing that would point to wine, but there we have it. [21:06] is it because of being able to use vst plugins or why does LMMS want it? [21:07] Ya, for VST. but I thought it was only for 32bit ISO [21:08] yes, I couldn't get amd64 to install, so I tried i386 which installed alright (but then had other issues) [21:08] wine is knda weird. It is all 32bit libs, but can run on a 64bit machines, but the install process filters out 32bit packages. [21:09] I never got anything to run properly in wine so I have given up on it [21:10] so it is possible to have a 64bit LMMS with a 32bit wine, but not from ubuntu repos. [21:10] aha [21:10] but now that a new iso have been built I'll make another run at getting the 64bit version up in my virtualbox [21:10] Wine just keeps getting better... but I have nothing to run on it... except "hulls.exe" [21:11] way back I wanted to run Internet Explorer to check web pages, but it never worked [21:11] So I do have much chance for failure either [21:12] I thought wine came with that... [21:12] nope, just the file explorer [21:14] this was back in 2000. :D Then I tried it again a few years back when my work required me to use some windows application [21:14] didn't work and I ended up being forced to windows machine. [21:17] The computers I used to use at work were all machine control, so whatever they ran was what I used... VMS and NT as happens. [21:19] what kind of work? [21:19] I used to fix mail sorting machines at Canada Post [21:20] cool [21:21] We moved from the Vancouver area so I am now delivering mail. [21:21] Lots of fresh air :) [21:23] I'm still in an office all day [21:23] I'm about half and half [21:23] which reminds me, I should get to bed to manage another day at the office tomorrow! [21:23] g'nite [21:23] GN then [21:35] OvenWerks: Ok. I looked through the build log, but it wasn't revealing anything. The posts on the mail list were kind of mute [21:36] Where do I find the build log? [21:36] Let me get the link.. [21:36] I have been googling but not finding [21:37] OvenWerks: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/saucy/ [21:37] There is some other stuff that might be interesting to look through on that site [21:37] All Ubuntu members may upload their own stuff too [21:37] ah, sorry [21:38] there's also http://people.ubuntu.com [21:38] mixed those up [21:38] so, the second one is for ubuntu members [21:38] not possible to browse, I think (the latter) [21:40] anyway, this here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/ [21:40] Ya, I get sent to the wiki [21:40] Ahh [21:40] OvenWerks: I was looking the wrong place [21:41] OvenWerks: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/saucy/ubuntustudio-dvd/20130625/livecd-20130625-amd64.out [21:41] That's one of the ones that failed [21:41] I'm thinking the reason why the log didnt' show on mail list is there's a maximum lenght for posts [21:41] Some one got it though. [21:41] So it got fixed [21:42] I'll keep a bookmark so I can find it next time [21:43] The good thing about having text logs in a url like that is you can retrieve info using scripts or aliases for your bash [21:43] Well, maybe not those logs, when I come to think about it [21:44] I just saw there was a current and latest folder, but the names are still a bit custom [21:45] but still, managable, if you ask for logs of a specific date