[00:42] afternoon [00:45] i can see ubuntu heading towards being essentially a separate platform in porting terms [00:45] the global menu changes already throw up a lot of issue [00:46] e.g. look at the bug list for wxwidgets2.8 in ubuntu and there are lots of them [00:47] afternoon [00:49] i can't help wondering if it's really sufficiently better that it's worth going a different way [00:49] plus self-proclaimed successors to X come and go, and X is still here