[00:39] <skellat> Unit193: Seen it.  Was out at the farm for a good chunk of the day over somebody else's immigration paperwork and then I had an music festival board meeting I had to clerk tonight.
[01:17] <skellat> NOTES: 1.  OLF was sent a follow-up e-mail to see if they found space for an UbuCon.  2.  LoCo Council e-mailed about "Verified Team" status and what that involves.  3.  Haven't found a contract signer for table.  That remains pending.
[01:23] <Unit193> skellat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines#Approval_Process
[01:23] <jenni> [ LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines - Ubuntu Wiki ] - http://j.mp/16D9qDy
[01:28] <skellat> Unit193: That's in the process of being voided in favor of something new.  As of UDS-1305 the Approved/Unapproved distinction was terminated.
[01:30] <skellat> Unit193: Let me dig up the blueprint
[01:46] <skellat> Unit193: Apparently I can't find the particular blueprint and LP is great for not being very searchable in that regard.  The Approved/Unapproved distinction did go away in May but the Wiki wasn't updated as the new "Verified Team" regime wasn't officially announced yet.
[01:53] <Unit193> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-loco-community
[01:53] <jenni> [ LoCo Community - what's next? : Blueprints : Ubuntu ] - http://j.mp/13bckCA
[02:04] <skellat> Unit193: The bad thing is I can't find the e-mail to the blueprint from 1305 where Jono marked off that the change was DONE.  My e-mails don't get stored for very long in any sort of accessible form.
[13:23] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[13:24] <Unit193> Howdy.
[13:25] <thafreak> what'd i miss?
[13:26] <Unit193> What are you looking to miss?  I made my hackish package less bad by using diverts. :P
[13:26] <thafreak> diverts?
[13:26] <Unit193> dpkg-divert, yep.
[13:26] <thafreak> I've never delved into deb packaging...
[13:27] <thafreak> what's it do?
[13:27] <Unit193> Basically, I can overwrite files installed by other packages (not quite, but it's what I need to do, basically.)
[13:41] <thafreak> oh ok...cool
[13:42] <thafreak> i need to learn more about packaging
[13:42] <thafreak> all i can do now is backport packages
[13:42] <paultag> packaging isn't hard.
[13:42] <paultag> Oh, dpkg-divert. That's bad juju.
[13:42] <thafreak> yeah, just need to find the time to sit down and figure it out
[13:42] <paultag> Hope you're not planning on getting it into the archive :)
[13:42] <Unit193> paultag: Indeed, but at least better than sed.  Heck no I'm not. :P
[13:43] <paultag> I've done worse :3
[13:43] <paultag> hairycandy uses lots of dpkg-divert magic
[13:43] <paultag> in the worse case, it diverts usr/bin/awesome to usr/bin/awesome.real and adds a wrapepr as awesome
[13:43] <paultag> to do autostarting
[13:43] <Unit193> This is a replacement for a sed script that'd try to modify a line in place...
[13:43] <paultag> so bad
[13:43] <paultag> so bad
[13:43] <paultag> so good
[13:45] <Unit193> live-tools and pidgin-sipe use it too. :P
[13:46] <paultag> the number of packakges in the archive that use divert must be low
[13:46] <paultag> because you can't divert the same file twice.
[13:47] <thafreak> so, I've discovered evilvte...
[13:47] <thafreak> seems pretty low cpu usage...need to try it on my pi
[13:47] <paultag> why not use that hip one from a while back
[13:47] <paultag> had some funny nam
[13:47] <paultag> e
[13:48] <thafreak> dunno...evilvte is in the repos
[13:49] <thafreak> heard of some other ones, but they seem to require compiling from source...which i may still do on the pi
[13:50] <paultag> I need some hard drives to hook up to my pis
[13:50] <paultag> than I can use them a bit more.
[13:50] <paultag> then
[13:50] <paultag> damnit words
[13:53] <thafreak> i have one of those drive adaptors, where you just stick plug a bare hard drive in it, like it's a game cartdrige
[13:53] <paultag> yah
[13:55] <thafreak> i have an old drive in it, and it keeps "disconnecting"
[13:55] <thafreak> I need to set up automount I think
[13:55] <thafreak> er autofs
[13:55] <thafreak> whatever it's called these days
[15:57] <thafreak> .weather 44256
[15:57] <JENNI> Cloudy, 77.0°F (25°C), 29.59in (999mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KCLE 15:51Z
[16:10] <skellat> .weather 44004
[16:10] <JENNI> Cloudy, 75.2°F (24°C), 29.56in (998mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KYNG 15:51Z
[16:12] <skellat> .weather KHZY
[16:12] <JENNI> Cloudy, 75.2°F (24°C), 29.56in (998mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KYNG 15:51Z
[22:10] <Unit193> skellat: What are you doing now?  https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-us-ohio/msg01304.html
[22:10] <JENNI> [ Deactivated : Mailing list archive : ubuntu-us-ohio team in Launchpad ] - http://j.mp/12vOERQ
[22:10] <skellat> What I said I would
[22:11] <skellat> Trying to write a friendly reply
[22:12] <Unit193> Kicking people out?
[22:15] <skellat> Gimme a minute
[22:15] <Unit193> Sure.
[22:28] <Unit193> I see, but still disagree.
[22:28] <skellat> Well
[22:28] <skellat> Even if everybody gets unified to where the needs is felt to replace me quickly...
[22:28] <skellat> ...good will come of this
[22:29] <skellat> It is like watching ripples in a pond when you drop a rock in
[22:30] <skellat> Stillness changes to activity as reaction radiates outward
[22:32] <Unit193> Not all activity is good.
[22:34] <skellat> Well, at least we can let it roll and I'll take the heat if any erupts
[22:34] <skellat> That's what I'm there for anyhow
[22:36] <skellat> Family are pulling me away to do things.  Have a good rest of the night Unit193.  I expect smoke coming out of my inbox soon enough.
[22:44] <paultag> when I first took over as BDFL, I wrote a script to email everyone directly
[22:44] <paultag> and reminded them where the real list is, and that we exist
[22:45] <paultag> got quite a positive response