[05:10] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:49] <Squirm> morning
[07:07] <Kilos> hi superfly mazal and others
[07:07] <Kilos> and HawkiesZA 
[07:08] <Kilos> i mailed 8ta again and asked what upgrading they are doing here
[07:08] <Kilos> ill show the reply
[07:08] <HawkiesZA> Morning Kilos 
[07:08] <superfly> ohi
[07:08] <Kilos> Per description of problem that indicates a reference to previous incident 3382229, site has been upgraded, but there is iub limitation found on site (12mb). Site needs iub upgrade. 
[07:08] <Kilos>  
[07:08] <Kilos> Hack solution. Pending 30meg upgrade
[07:09] <Kilos> what does that mean
[07:10] <Kilos> whats an iub
[07:15] <superfly> haven't a clue
[07:15] <superfly> but it sounds like the site doesn't have a big enough connection
[07:17] <HawkiesZA> Wikipedia is insanely helpful
[07:17] <HawkiesZA> "The IUB interface between BTS and RNC in UMTS"
[07:18] <HawkiesZA> Wat
[07:18] <Kilos> hehe
[07:18] <tonberryE352> some engineer somewhere is giggling now
[07:19] <Kilos> so its the supply to the site that needs upgrading
[07:19] <Kilos> and what do they mean by "Hack solution. Pending 30meg upgrade"
[07:20] <mazal> More oom Kilos 
[07:23] <Kilos> Maaz, define BTS
[07:23] <Maaz> Kilos: BTS Base Transceiver Station entities (BCF, BS, GSM, GPRS, UMTS, mobile-systems) , BTS Bug Tracking System
[07:24] <superfly> Maaz: define IUB
[07:24] <Maaz> superfly: I don't know about IUB. Maybe you meant Bub, Cub, Dub, Fub, Hub, Jub, Nub, pub, Rub, sub, Tub, IUD, cub, dub, hub, nub, rub, tub, uub, iud, ib, iu, fub, iab, imb, idb, iup, iur, iuk or iut?
[07:24] <superfly> Maaz: IUB is the interface between BTS and RNC in UMTS
[07:24] <Maaz> superfly: One learns a new thing every day
[07:24] <superfly> Maaz: IUB
[07:24] <Maaz> superfly: IUB is the interface between BTS and RNC in UMTS
[07:24] <Kilos> Maaz, define RNC
[07:24] <Maaz> Kilos: RNC Radio Network Controller (mobile-systems, UMTS)
[07:25] <Kilos> aha
[07:25] <Kilos> thanks for the help guys
[07:25] <superfly> There, now we don't have to worry anymore about what IUB is. Maaz will tell us.
[07:25] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[07:26] <HawkiesZA> Ok, so from what I can tell
[07:26] <HawkiesZA> The RNC controls the BTS
[07:26] <HawkiesZA> Mobile devices talk to the BTS
[07:26] <HawkiesZA> And IUB is the interface between RNC and BTS
[07:27] <HawkiesZA> i.e. it's how the controller talks to the thing that talks to your device
[07:28] <HawkiesZA> That make sense?
[07:32] <Kilos> yea to me anyway
[07:32] <Kilos> now
[07:33] <Kilos> is the upgrade needed a hardware one like better cabling of what do they mean by hack solution
[07:35] <HawkiesZA> It could be a hardware upgrade. It could also be a firmware upgrade
[07:36] <Kilos> to me it seems like firmware because how does one hack hardware
[07:36] <HawkiesZA> Duct tape
[07:36] <HawkiesZA> Lots of it
[07:37] <Kilos> maybe changing old cables underground to fibre is what their eventual aim is
[07:37] <Kilos> rofl
[07:37] <Kilos> i think its all the duct tape thats caused the prob
[07:38] <Kilos> bad joints etc
[07:38] <Kilos> not soldered
[08:00] <Symmetria> hrm
[08:00] <Symmetria> probably a stupid question but i know next to nothing about perl
[08:00] <Symmetria> why am I getting this every time I execute perl:
[08:00] <Symmetria> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[08:00] <Symmetria> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[08:00] <Symmetria> 	LANGUAGE = "en_ZA:en",
[08:00] <Symmetria> 	LC_ALL = (unset),
[08:00] <Symmetria> 	LC_CTYPE = "UTF-8",
[08:00] <Symmetria> 	LANG = "en_ZA.UTF-8"
[08:00] <Symmetria>     are supported and installed on your system.
[08:00] <Symmetria> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:00] <Symmetria> and how do I fix it :)
[08:00] <Symmetria> its annoying as hell
[08:01] <Kilos> what is you keyboard settings
[08:01] <Kilos> english - usa
[08:02] <Symmetria> its english south africa I think 
[08:02] <Kilos> s/you/your
[08:02] <Symmetria> its a server box 
[08:02] <Kilos> try the usa
[08:02] <Kilos> some guys have had probs using english-za
[08:02] <Symmetria> how do I change it :)
[08:03] <Kilos> i dunno where to find settings without a gui
[08:03] <Kilos> there must be a command way to change
[08:04] <Kilos> always use english-usa when installing
[08:05] <Kilos> youll have to wait for one of the clever guys to help or google
[08:05] <HawkiesZA> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ? 
[08:05] <HawkiesZA> exclude the "?" in command line
[08:34] <Kilos> hi psyatw zeref 
[08:34] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:37] <psyatw> hi zeref
[08:37] <charl> good morning
[08:37] <psyatw> hoi charl
[08:37] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:37]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:37] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[08:37] <charl> hi psyatw 
[08:37] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:37] <zeref> hi psyatw, charl 
[08:37] <Kilos> ohi magespawn 
[08:37] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:37] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[08:38] <charl> hi magespawn 
[08:38] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:38] <Kilos> Maaz, larger
[08:38] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Kilos
[08:38] <Kilos> lets hope magespawn dont have connection probs today again
[08:39] <charl> lol
[08:39] <charl> a bucket
[08:39] <Kilos> lol
[08:39] <charl> Kilos: are you going to be drinking your coffee like a horse? :)
[08:40] <Kilos> man its dry in the tvl in winter
[08:40] <Kilos> we dont get rain like the coastal peeps
[08:40] <charl> oh yeah, i remember it, the dead grass
[08:40] <Kilos> yeah
[08:40] <charl> i saw them spraying water here a few weeks ago, grass was also dying
[08:41] <charl> but now it's rainy again
[08:41] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[08:41] <magespawn> good morning all
[08:41] <Kilos> only evergreens not dead here
[08:41] <charl> at the moment it's like 12 degrees here, that's quite cold for summer weather
[08:41] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:41] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[08:41] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[08:41] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[08:42] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[08:42] <Maaz> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[08:42] <magespawn> Maaz large
[08:42] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you magespawn
[08:42] <charl> lol a beer mug
[08:43] <magespawn> woho
[08:43] <magespawn> looks like mweb has sorted it 
[08:43] <charl> sounds good, and telkom? they still in trouble?
[08:43] <Kilos> yay
[08:43] <charl> i think i am going to advise my family in .za to move to mweb away from telkom
[08:43] <magespawn> wonderfully english there
[08:43] <charl> ??
[08:44] <Kilos> mweb works through telkom
[08:44] <magespawn> Vince-0: was saying he thinks OpenWeb is better
[08:44] <charl> hmmm, what a mess
[08:44] <Kilos> cheapest offers i think
[08:44] <magespawn> everyone works last mile through telkom, they own the hardware
[08:44] <charl> about 10 years ago i used to work at service agents of mweb
[08:45] <charl> the way that company does business... i don't want to comment
[08:45] <charl> they screwed us around a lot
[08:45] <Kilos> hi N8Wulf 
[08:45] <N8Wulf> hi Kilos
[08:45] <charl> hi N8Wulf 
[08:45] <N8Wulf> hey charl
[08:45] <magespawn> hi N8Wulf 
[08:45] <N8Wulf> lol... Hey All
[08:46] <charl> bbl i need to get some work done
[08:46] <N8Wulf> Important topic or may I butt in?
[08:46] <magespawn> go ahead N8Wulf 
[08:46] <Kilos> talk N8Wulf 
[08:47] <Kilos> what you broke now?
[08:47] <N8Wulf> the Server 12.04.2 AMD64 iso, do you guys know off issues with burning to Install media?
[08:47] <Kilos> hehe
[08:47] <N8Wulf> I checked Checksum onmy ISO
[08:47] <Vince-0> magespawn, yes indeed!
[08:47] <Kilos> N8Wulf, use k3b
[08:47] <zeref> N8Wulf: I had no problems
[08:48] <Vince-0> it seems MWeb's fail-over from SEACOM issues sux
[08:48] <N8Wulf> I used k3b
[08:48] <N8Wulf> I used unetbootin to 2 Flashdrives
[08:48] <magespawn> no but i have never used the amd64
[08:48] <Kilos> oh my
[08:48] <N8Wulf> I tried on different USB ports
[08:48] <zeref> I used unetbootin on flashdrive
[08:48] <N8Wulf> I tried different PCs even
[08:49] <zeref> or you could get an earlier version of the server and try that?
[08:49] <N8Wulf> but the install starts loading from the USb, then just after KB selection it gives error msg that I must check my CD Rom (install media
[08:49] <Kilos> arent the sticks booting?
[08:49] <N8Wulf> sticks boot yes
[08:50] <Kilos> and then?
[08:50] <N8Wulf> but the install starts loading from the USb, then just after KB selection it gives error msg that I must check my CD Rom (install media
[08:50] <Kilos> unetbootin worked here
[08:50] <Kilos> oh wait
[08:50] <N8Wulf> on that ISO?
[08:50] <Kilos> i burned to dvd
[08:50] <Kilos> yip 12.04.2
[08:50] <N8Wulf> i tried writing to a DVD with k3b at 4x write speed also
[08:51] <Kilos> but not amd64 either
[08:51] <N8Wulf> "Boot Failure, Press any key"
[08:51] <Kilos> my pc only does 32bit
[08:52] <zeref> N8Wulf: do you get this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[08:52] <Kilos> oh my
[08:53] <N8Wulf> do you think the Hardware detection picks up that it's not a Xeon but a Core 2 Duo?
[08:54] <N8Wulf> Bios says Intel 64 Architecture Capable
[08:54] <N8Wulf> zeref: That is exactly my issue yes
[08:56] <zeref> N8Wulf: seems like a bug was reported:
[08:56] <zeref> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian-installer/+bug/1130381
[08:56] <N8Wulf> I see so... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
[08:57] <N8Wulf> There goes my Media server build idieas for the weekend
[08:58] <zeref> try an older version of the server
[08:59] <zeref> or go debian :whistle:
[09:00] <N8Wulf> I'm gonna give the suggested renaming of the File extensions a quick try
[09:00] <N8Wulf> my issue is I wanna give www.amahi.org a testdrive
[09:01] <N8Wulf> and it only works on ubuntu 12.04 lts, or on fedora
[09:02] <Kilos> can one mix amd and intel
[09:02] <Kilos> if cap no prob why not get the 32 bit
[09:11] <magespawn> N8Wulf: is amahi FOSS?
[09:12] <N8Wulf> not sure about the FOSS bit
[09:13] <magespawn> it is open source, and it looks like the ubuntu versin is in beta
[09:14] <N8Wulf> the Intel or AMD64 is the same thing, reference or use of the AMD infront still just means it's the 64bit edition
[09:15] <N8Wulf> I need 64bit as my Ram is 8GB
[09:21] <N8Wulf> according to this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ there is some "Fix" for the broken Server installer
[09:22] <N8Wulf> joke about that website though is that the App in question runs on M$ to setup linux on your Schtick
[09:22] <Kilos> hehe
[09:28] <magespawn> N8Wulf: also looks like they recommend installing on the desktop version of ubnutu
[09:29] <magespawn> http://docs.amahi.org/ubuntu-12.html
[09:31] <N8Wulf> thanx yes, I saw that bit, but it looked like it was kinda going in circles... 
[09:36] <magespawn> looks like they have made it kinda idiot proof to set up a home media server with a vpn connection to it, nice idea
[09:36] <magespawn> i wonder how sercure it is
[09:39] <N8Wulf> I wont put my Home porn on it yet... only my series and movies collection
[09:39] <N8Wulf> ;-D
[09:40] <N8Wulf> I like the addOns for any uPnP devices and for Android etc to remote view blah blah blah
[09:40] <N8Wulf> and the Library Update and renaming addOns as well
[09:44] <magespawn> if i get a chance this weekend i will also give it a try
[09:44] <magespawn> bbl
[10:06] <N8Wulf> Turns out that Universal USB installer does the trick... my 12.04 64bit is finally installing
[10:07] <Kilos> glad you found a solution N8Wulf 
[10:07] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[10:07] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[10:08] <N8Wulf> from what I saw, there's a Long filename issue on the ISO which causes errors when unetbootin extracts to the USB
[10:08] <Kilos> ouch
[10:09] <N8Wulf> if I had 64bit installed on my Laptop, then I would not have had this issue, is because I'm now on 32bit, trying to do the 64bit thing for my server
[10:09] <Kilos> aha
[10:10] <N8Wulf> from what I read, the 32bit can not support the verylongfilenamesthat 64bit does or needs on the ISO
[10:18] <N8Wulf> from this to that... if anybody has use for 20Gb+ free Cloud storage, please use this link for additional 5Gb SignOn bonus: https://copy.com?r=8HAeLi. and every time you refer someone to yours, both get rewarded with extra 5Gb
[11:24] <charl> cloud storage FTW - help the NSA to read your data with convenience :)
[11:29] <charl> this nii fellow on the afrinic mailing list
[11:29] <charl> it's great to read he is getting an award but his mails are extremely incoherent and hard to understand
[11:30] <charl> does anyone else have that too?
[11:33] <charl> hi smile4ever 
[12:29] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a good weekend
[12:35] <Symmetria> hrm
[12:35] <Symmetria> can someone do me a favour and try and resolve 146.182.192.2
[12:35] <Vince-0> It works!
[12:36] <charl> ** server can't find 2.192.182.146.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN
[12:36] <Kilos> what you mean resolve
[12:36] <Kilos> i can ping it
[12:36] <charl> you mean reverse resolve right?
[12:37] <charl> netblock owner is the university of the free state
[12:42] <magespawn> afternoon all
[12:42] <Kilos> hi magespawn wb
[12:47] <charl> wb magespawn 
[13:17] <Symmetria> hrm
[13:25] <Kilos> yay i asked 8ta what kinda upgrading is necessary here is the reply
[13:25] <Kilos> This will be a firmware to the tower upgrade .
[13:25] <Kilos> Once this is done , feedback will be provided to you.
[13:27] <N8Wulf> Feedback on my side... I got Amahi server installed on 12.04-AMD64
[13:27] <N8Wulf> It's working...
[13:27] <Kilos> cool
[13:27] <Kilos> well done
[13:29] <N8Wulf> thanx... now to add my HDDs to the Pool and setup Shares, et Voila!
[13:39] <magespawn> N8Wulf: you should be able to share that over the internet too
[13:45] <N8Wulf> jip, just have to install and enable OpenVPN etc
[13:49] <magespawn> the dyndns is part of the setup which i thought was pretty cool
[13:56] <magespawn> some inconsiderate nasty person near has just started a braai
[14:03] <magespawn> that along with the kfc i have been smelling all day is close to driving me insane
[14:09] <Kilos> ai!
[14:09] <Kilos> that sucks magespawn 
[14:35] <magespawn> later all
[14:35] <magespawn> home time
[14:35] <HawkiesZA> cheers magespawn
[14:36] <Kilos> go safe
[14:36] <HawkiesZA> enjoy the weekend
[14:40] <HawkiesZA> Gonna hit the road too
[14:40] <Kilos> go well
[14:40] <HawkiesZA> Cheers Kilos. Enjoy the weekend
[14:40] <Kilos> you too ty
[14:40] <HawkiesZA> ta
[15:52] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[15:54] <nlsthzn> \o uncle Kilos
[16:06] <trender> yo
[16:06] <Kilos> hi trender
[16:07] <trender> howdee
[16:17] <Kilos> aw missed him
[17:27] <kbmonkey> hello
[17:27] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[17:28] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[17:32] <Kilos> hey Symmetria does it work with english-usa
[18:27] <georgelappies> Good evening all
[18:28] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[18:28] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you tonight
[18:29] <Kilos> cold but good ty amd you?
[18:29] <Kilos> and
[18:33] <georgelappies> good thanks, no complains. yeah this winter may as well bugger of now
[18:33] <Kilos> hehe
[18:36] <Kilos> heres a good desktop buy for someone in capetown
[18:36] <Kilos> http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/104453003/Intel_Quad_Core_2_66_Gig_4_Gig_Memory_500_Gig_HD_Win_7_64_Bit.html
[18:40] <Kilos> warmer in bed. night all , sleep tight
[18:41] <charl> here is telkom: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/411/949/f0d.jpg
[18:44] <kbmonkey> charl, LOL
[22:11] <trender> yo anybody awake
[22:12] <trender> maaz: ping
[22:12] <Maaz> trender: pong
[22:53] <zeref> weo weo
[23:22] <aquarat> does anyone know what happened to sakis3g ?