[00:00] ok im going to sleep, lets hope tomorrow raring packages are ready :) [00:45] Riddell: You wouldn't be around by some odd coincidence, would you? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:52] yep, plenty of the new symbols are arch=armhf [00:52] * yofel uploads kdelibs and falls off the chair [00:52] good night [01:13] manchicken: calligra [01:18] manchicken: You want another one? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/143377794/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-armhf.kubrick_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:24] Un moment... [01:24] This one isn't so easy. [01:37] I've gotta download the libqt4-dev package in order to get the headers. [02:08] Stupid question: GLES and glext... what's the difference? [02:08] Why include both? === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy building in saucy-proposed, raring: WIP in Ninjas | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [02:29] ScottK: You're going to need someone who knows these APIs. [02:30] ScottK: The typedef's result in the exact same size and precision (8-byte int on amd64 at least), but there is a conflict btween the GLES2 and the glext includes which I don't know how to resolve without breaking stuff. [02:30] I'm gonna run, and then I'll be back. [03:08] I'm back. [03:08] ScottK: Does anybody know this library? [03:23] manchicken: Not in Kubuntu. I know on armhf, which is the only place this fails, we have only GLES and not GL. [03:23] So it's going to work with GLES or not at all. [03:26] So then maybe we should throw a conditional around the includes for GL. [03:26] There's gotta be an arch-specific preprocessor symbol we could test for [03:32] I'm sure there is. [04:10] manchicken: I think it should look for GL/GLES as that's what the code cares about. We know how that relates to architectures in Ubuntu, but it's not a fundamental relationship. [04:10] hey manchicken [04:10] ahoneybun: Hey [04:10] manchicken: are you working on the script to pull things from the wiki? [04:11] ahoneybun: I am, kinda... I don't have much information about the specs. [04:12] manchicken: oh ok [04:12] I have a script which is mostly working against Wikipedia (nobody told me which wiki, so I'm assuming mediawiki and wikipedia is an obvious choice). [04:12] ahoneybun: If you have more specs I'd be happy to take them into account here. [04:12] no sure what you mean by specs [04:12] *not [04:13] Requirements [04:13] Like, Riddell said he didn't want to pass in a URL, but I don't know what he wants to take as input then. [04:14] So I changed it up and now you pass in a wikiword. [04:20] maybe anything with the categorydocumentation? [04:22] I mean we can just take the text from each page, more work but still a option [04:23] Which wiki is this gonna hit? Ubuntu? [04:23] Then, the other two questions are does the Wiki have an API, and which flavor of WikiMarkup is it? [04:24] kubuntu wiki, idk, moinmoin [04:26] What do you want for the input? [04:27] You want to provide a page name or a URL or what? [04:27] like have it take the content from a page name I gues [04:27] /kubuntu/kubuntudocs/welcome [04:29] ahoneybun: As much as I'd love to code something new (no joke, I would), what about this: http://moinmo.in/MoinDump [04:32] so it can dump page content to html? [04:34] kubuntu wiki uses moinmoin but they limit the the abilities we have [04:42] Well it says it can [04:42] yea I'm wondering if I should test it [04:42] We probably should. [04:43] The question is does whether it makes a web request or a DB query :) [04:43] not for me today off to bed [04:46] anyway off I go [06:37] Anyone doing 4.10.5 upload? [06:51] Damn, that script failed for 4.10.5. [06:51] yofel, Riddell ScottK do you guys get Permission denied (publickey) when running the kubuntu-initial-upload script!? [06:52] shadeslayer, apachelogger ^ [06:54] ... Why does new symbols in analitza appear not in a saucy build but in a raring build!? [07:12] ahoneybun, how's digikam? [07:17] smartboyhw: he went to bed quite awhile ago [07:17] last I saw, Riddell was telling him to rebuild it [07:17] perhaps when R comes back online he'll know the status [08:12] Good morning. [08:31] good morning [08:34] Hey soee, how are you? [08:35] lordievader, fine, thank you and you ? [08:36] I'm doing good too, editing the Kubuntu Docs a bit :) [08:37] im waiting for yofel to fix raring packages :) [09:03] smartboyhw: raring has a different compiler, so far no 2 versions of gcc provided a matching list of symbols :/ [09:03] it's usually no problem though [09:09] smartboyhw: 4.10.5 is broken [09:09] split packages et all [09:13] brrr [09:14] smartboyhw: note that you can really only run that script once 4.10.4 is in updates [09:14] otherwise it'll fetch the wrong packages [09:19] pinotree: abi-compliance-checker says there is no ABI/API change in akonadi [09:19] what in hell is abi-compliance-checker [09:21] yofel: afaik the backend of http://upstream-tracker.org/ [09:22] interesting [09:25] seems to be able to detect more types of ABI breakage than symbol files [09:31] yofel, so if the packages that are building now are fine we can test raring ? [09:33] it should be fine, the rest is only symbol file diff [09:33] nothing worse than beta1 [09:34] ;p [09:34] hm, mouse cursor motion doesn't really work right under XMir [09:35] if I move it very fast on the touchpad, then it jumps instead of moving [09:39] http://adarkroom.doublespeakgames.com/ [09:40] ^^ seems like a fun game [09:45] why this is odd [09:45] if you have your adapter plugged in and you click the battery plasmoid, nothing happens [09:46] hm, and suddenly it works [09:55] yofel, 3 packagets waits for okular-dev but okular was build already ? [09:56] i dont get it how it works ;) [09:59] shadeslayer, ah alright.. [10:01] yofel, ah alright. [10:03] Hiyas all [10:09] soee: the dependency check is only run ~hourly or so [10:09] I'll force them [10:10] Start in 1 hour [10:10] :/ [10:12] shadeslayer: it seems our problem from yesterday behaves very very randomly ... reproducing is not always possible [10:12] building ? [10:21] meh, I played with the kwin rendering settings a bit on my netbook, and now I've managed to get X stuck for the 4th time in one hour on XMir [10:32] yofel, yes!:P [11:10] btw. anyone else getting this? [11:10] [ 42.796587] ksplashqml[2452]: segfault at 0 ip b74b3eb7 sp bfedf640 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b7323000+2db000] [11:11] that would explain why ksplash quits before plasma is started [11:12] yofel, all packages ready ? [11:12] checking, got distracted debugging X [11:13] yeah, everything seems ready. let me do a dep check then I'll copy them [11:13] pk [11:14] *ok === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy building in saucy-proposed, raring: WIP in Staging PPA | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [11:22] yofel, you're copying to the backports PPA? [11:22] no beta, beta's and RC's never go into backports [11:22] yofel, beta backports? [11:22] right [11:22] yofel, now? Wow, that's quick. [11:22] This is much MORE better than 4.10.80:P [11:23] well, yeah ^^ [11:23] yofel, when can we un-stuck 4.10.4 in raring-proposed!? [11:23] build queues were empty too so thing finished building overnight mostly [11:23] *things [11:23] * smartboyhw rather wants soee to test 4.10.4 to make it through.:P [11:23] So we can start working on 4.10.5! [11:24] is it in the raring backports yet ?, because ai have issues with the desktop atm , after the last upgrade a few days ago [11:25] smartboyhw: hm, it's been 7 days, so ScottK should be able to release it when he gets to it [11:25] taskmanager and pasgers don't show in th epanel and the titlebars are missing from the windows [11:25] smartboyhw: kde folks need to fix kdeadmin and kdenetwork first though [11:25] BluesKaj, not 4.10.5. 4.10.90 soon be. [11:25] yofel, that's the issue really:P [11:25] BluesKaj: I'll have it in the beta backport in ~half an hour [11:26] need to do a quick upgrade test first [11:26] yes I mean 4.10.90 , smartboyhw [11:26] yofel , good , thanks [11:27] smartboyhw, 4.10.4 on raring ? [11:27] soee, yeah. [11:27] It's stuck there for a long time. [11:27] i would have to install it on VM [11:27] not long, no [11:27] yofel, you don't understand. [11:27] Hong Kong people are VERY impatient. [11:27] 7 days it's minimum, and the proposed testing mail was sent on the 21st [11:28] well, blame the paperwork :P === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy building in saucy-proposed, raring: Copying to kubuntu-ppa/beta | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [11:28] yofel, we have some build-dep problems for okular and kdepim-runtime in the archive. [11:29] note for upgraders, this *should* happen: [11:29] The following packages will be REMOVED: [11:29] libtaskmanager4abi3 [11:31] smartboyhw: kdepim-runtime looks ok to me, okular retried [11:31] yofel, kdepimlibs? [11:31] fine too [11:32] Scott usually tracks the failures there, so I guess he already retried those [11:32] yofel, ah. [11:32] Heck, I can't access the website admin page using rekonq. [11:33] Riddell, can you help? [11:33] The certificate problems seems VERY annoying.... [11:33] which one? [11:33] Just keep popping up. [11:34] yofel, https://www-admin.kubuntu.org [11:34] ah, last time I tried I had lots of issues with rekonq there, try with konqueror [11:34] (login worked, but the page itself not really) [11:34] yofel, :P [11:34] so are you pushing 4.10.4 or testing ? [11:34] soee, testing. [11:34] not. [11:34] :P [11:35] we're working on a bunch of things in parallel ;P [11:35] thats not good :) [11:35] mark one taks, do it. go next task :) [11:35] my upgrade test is still running, will be done in a minute [11:35] gotta love SSD's :D [11:36] will love them to when get some:) [11:36] yofel, even worse. Konqueror I can't even type the login details to the main page. [11:36] ok, passed [11:36] copying [11:36] lolwhat? [11:36] I'll try in a minute [11:39] yofel, um kdeadmin & network are uploaded I think. [11:39] soee: copied, you'll have to wait on launchpad's publisher now [11:40] and I forgot l10n, that'll follow now [11:40] yofel, and BTW why do I get permission denied (publickey) when running the scripts? [11:40] do you have a new ssh key? [11:40] yofel, ok [11:40] yofel, I did. But Riddell did upload that for me. [11:40] I'm able to access using dolphin. [11:41] So, can't understand. [11:41] you are connecting as ftpubuntu? [11:41] yofel, do I have to connect WHILE I'm running the scripts? [11:41] yofel, ofc. [11:41] no, but you need a) an ssh-agent, b) a setting in .ssh/config so it uses the correct user [11:42] yofel, probably the second. [11:42] is the problem. [11:42] * smartboyhw does have ssh-agent. [11:44] see README [11:44] in kubuntu-automation [11:49] yofel: I plan to release it on Monday. [11:49] hm, then we'll have to wait till monday, ok [11:50] Wait for what? [11:50] uploading 4.10.5, the script can't pull packages from -proposed right now [11:50] It's policy not to release SRUs on Friday or on the weekend. [11:50] That or fix the script ... [11:50] ah, makes sense I guess ^^ [11:51] yeah, should be doable I guess. [11:51] smartboyhw: want to do some python scripting? ^^ [11:53] yofel, libtaskmanager4abi3 is going to be removed and libtaskmanager4abi4 installed right ? [11:53] rigt [11:53] +h [11:53] ok starting [11:54] ok, as expected, that my rendering issues are gone isn't thanks to XMir but thanks to the ppa shipping a newer mesa version [12:03] smartboyhw: do you plan to backport *kscreen 1.0 pkg to raring (and maybe even precise?) [12:04] Bug 1195806 [12:04] bug 1195806 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Raring) "libkscreen and kscreen SRU to raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195806 [12:04] allee: There's an SRU pending for raring [12:04] precise we can do as backport, yeah [12:05] ScottK: thx. I'll check it [12:06] allee: It's not in yet. [12:07] SRU ? , ScottK [12:07] stable release update [12:08] thanks [12:08] The process that gets a fix into -updates. [12:08] yes [12:08] yofel: fwiw: for precise we should add divert on to kscreen for krandrstartup [12:08] otherwise startupkde exits with error and kdm greeter takes control again ;-) [12:09] allee: we try not to do technology transitions for backports, that's why the backport packages have the disable-krandr patch removed [12:10] or is it broken right now? [12:10] yofel, ok , should I update/upgrade raring now ? [12:10] yofel: kscreen in precise breaks startupkde [12:10] ah, so I guess we would need a selective check whether kscreen is there or not :/ [12:11] can you file a bug against kubuntu-ppa please? [12:14] BluesKaj: you can if you want, everything's published [12:15] ok yofel , vg [12:17] reboot [12:18] yofel: well, kscreen in precise does not conflict with kde-workspace-randr, so I maybe removed it by hand and broke startupkde that way. [12:18] uhm, yeah. kde-workspace-randr should not be optional in precise [12:19] presently upgrading the latest 13.10 kernel to 3.10.0.1.10 [12:19] I once tried to make it optional in startkde but completely broke the script on my system so I postponed that [12:21] yofel: as kscreen is only in backports ppa a test -r $(which krandrstartup) && . krandrstartup [12:21] should do the trick [12:21] yofel, smoth upgrade [12:21] *o [12:21] or kscreen divert it to and empty file [12:21] allee: we already have package tests in there but something didn't work out, I'll give it another try later [12:24] yofel, what the hell python !? [12:25] yeah, python ^^ [12:26] yofel, I know VERY FEW python. [12:27] Anyways, what's the task!/ [12:27] ? [12:27] pulling packages from -proposed if possible [12:28] I think that would be something like trying it and check if it worked, otherwise pull from regular release [12:28] yofel, that's too difficult for me I think... [12:28] ok [12:29] smartboyhw: I've never been able to login to the admin page with anything but Firefox/Iceweasel. Don't ask me why... [12:29] ryanakca, heh [12:30] smartboyhw: works for me with konqueror, what was broken again? [12:30] yofel, certificates. [12:30] no warning here [12:30] Both rekonq and konqueror complains. [12:30] yofel, :O [12:30] though maybe I already ignored it [12:30] dunno [12:31] yofel, wait. You mean I really can't run the kubuntu-initlal-upload script even I set -v 4.10.5 ? [12:31] It's for PPA isn't it?' [12:31] well, you'll base those on the 4.10.3 packages currently [12:31] that's not what you want [12:32] yofel, ... [12:32] I think the "no SRU release on Friday" rule should change... [12:32] no. seriously. no [12:33] you do not put things on production on friday [12:33] never [12:33] ever [12:33] smartboyhw: No. We put it there because some bad SRUs got release on Friday and then it was the weekend when someone noticed and no one was around to fix it. [12:34] I sometime push things on the other end and release late Sunday on the theory that someone will be around by the time someone notices a problem. [12:36] this is interesting Chrome eats more memory with one tab than Firefox with 3 [12:41] ScottK: kscreen SRU: didn't find the pkg in raring-proposed and no SRU bug, so pending means noone works on it yet? [12:41] It's in the queue for the SRU team to review/accept. [12:42] ScottK: ah, oh. Thx [12:42] BTW, if someone could actually finish digikam and upload it, that would help immensely with getting some saucy proposed -> release migrations unstuck. [12:44] smartboyhw: symbols for okteta on armhf need fixing, if you're looking for something productive to do. [12:46] I'll try to get to digikam later if time permits. I have access to that ec2 I think [12:49] Thanks. [12:51] ScottK, alright then. [12:51] Should be simple. [12:51] Thanks. [12:59] ScottK, actually, it's symbols problem EVERYWHERE... [12:59] yofel, unfortunately plasma is still mucked up in 13.04 [12:59] On all arches. [13:00] BluesKaj, a X problem? [13:01] smartboyhw, a plasma widgets problem and windows titlebars [13:01] BluesKaj, hmm... [13:01] smartboyhw: Well have fun then. [13:04] yofel: ping [13:24] ScottK, dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/okteta_4.10.90-0ubuntu2.dsc [13:24] Diff: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/okteta_4%3A4.10.90-0ubuntu1_4%3A4.10.90-0ubuntu2.diff.gz [13:24] Uploaded to bzr already. [13:26] ::workspace-bugs:: [1196018] kwin with wayland support? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1196018 (by Sandra Karuving) [13:26] * ScottK tries [13:27] build log is ok [13:28] also rekonq is getting worse to use -.- [13:28] searching the workspace log from within rekonq goes ... "char.............................char....................................................................................charcharcharchar" [13:29] could be a not installed file though, I fail to find output for that [13:30] yofel: didn't ninjas builds used to have list-missing or something? [13:31] apachelogger: they did? [13:31] erm yes, they did [13:32] can't see no nothing now :( [13:32] if you use debian-qt-kde.mk I think [13:32] buildlog? [13:51] smartboyhw: I started a test build on one of the armhf boxes. [13:51] ScottK, great. [13:58] yofel: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/4754496/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.90-0ubuntu2~ubuntu13.10~ppa6_UPLOADING.txt.gz [13:58] apachelogger, check i386. [13:59] --list-missing and lintian doesn't run in amd64 I think. [13:59] curious [14:00] afiestas_: have you found the reason for the black screen problem? [14:01] apachelogger, https://i143672214.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/143672214/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.90-0ubuntu2~ubuntu13.10~ppa6_UPLOADING.txt.gz?token=0a462bf31fa34eed8052d13227246a77 [14:01] i386 does have --list-missing and lintian. [14:08] what's the equivalent of qt4-doc for kde docs? [14:09] no such package [14:09] i.e. kde api docs in help format for Qt Creator [14:09] oh [14:20] yofel, 4.10.90 fully copied to kubuntu-ppa/beta right? === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy building in saucy-proposed, raring: In kubuntu-ppa/beta | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy in archive, raring: In kubuntu-ppa/beta | 4.10.4 in raring-proposed | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [14:24] ehm [14:24] 600mb tar [14:24] DAFUQ [14:24] yofel: it would appear shipping with .git is also not the solution :S [14:26] ScottK, how's the armhf build of okteta? [14:30] ::workspace-bugs:: [1196018] kwin with wayland support? @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1196018 (by Sandra Karuving) [14:31] yofel: think we'll have to go back to foreach f in *; mkdir $f/.git [14:33] any idea why when i start my system 2 instances of dolphin are opened ? [14:33] i checked startup programs and thers nothig related [14:35] brb [14:38] Mornin' [14:38] ScottK: You ever find anybody who knew your GLES/glext question? [14:39] ahoneybun: Did you get a chance to look at MoinDump? [14:46] manchicken: No. [14:46] smartboyhw: 92% [14:47] ScottK, :) (ARM is slow:P) [14:47] ScottK: I can see if I can try to fake it, but it probably won't work. [14:47] Worth a try. [14:48] First step is to figure out what the preprocessor symbol is for arm, second is to just throw in the conditional around the glext include. I suspect there will be a third step of figuring out which symbols we have to chase down without glext, or which other symbols we have to wrap in conditionals. [14:48] ScottK: I wonder if you could just configure it without glext... [14:54] I wonder if `#ifdef __arm__` would work... I'm seeing some of it on googling. [14:54] I'm gonna go swim in the headers. [14:55] ScottK: what problem is that? [15:13] ScottK: I've got an idea. On line 34 append « #endif /* __arm__ */ » and then on line 32 append « #ifndef __arm__ » [15:14] ScottK: Try that. I expect that to cause new build errors, though. [15:16] apachelogger: meh, does it always remove it or what? [15:19] ahoneybun: in what state is digikam on the ec2? [15:38] nvm, fetching [15:38] Hmm, interesting e-mail in kubuntu-devel about kopete. [15:39] yofel: no, the tar just ends up being 600mib with git ^^ [15:39] vs. 160 without [15:40] so packing .git seems not very practical [15:40] right... [15:40] Project ERROR: Module does not define version. [15:40] it also fails with .git [15:40] dafuq [15:40] ..... [15:40] LOL [15:40] maybe you shouldn't take *all* modules? [15:41] that's the standard way to build it [15:41] and it still doesn't flipping build :@ [15:42] and I have no clue why [15:46] shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kopete preserving history is usually what we tend to do :S [15:46] shadeslayer, heh [15:46] apachelogger, hehj [15:46] Well, why did we change it then in the first place?:P [15:48] I think for googletalk it's because we don't have expat. [15:48] as build-dep [15:49] As for disabling video support and skype protocol: Dunno, [15:56] ahoneybun: I copied the digikam state you had over and shut the ec2 down [16:01] smartboyhw: https://paste.debian.net/13313/ - it didn't end well. [16:02] apachelogger: manchicken wanted some coding stuff to do so I asked him to look at one of the armhf build failures caused by GL/GLES. [16:02] that sounds like nto fun at all :P [16:05] Got something more fun we can give him? [16:05] He fixed the calligra FTBFS on arm for me already. [16:06] apachelogger: Can you commit stuff to the calligra repos? [16:06] yes [16:08] let me get you the patch. [16:10] ScottK, um, I did run ALL patches for ALL archs into pkgkde-symbolshelper [16:10] So, maybe needing to do it MANUALLY. [16:10] !!??!?!?!? [16:10] I really can't help now, sleep time. [16:12] apachelogger: https://paste.debian.net/13315/ joint credit for the patch to jr and manchicken (Michael D. Stemle, Jr). [16:13] ScottK, if you want to do it manually, it will take a LONG time... [16:13] I'm starting to think if these needed sudo:P [16:13] Bye for now, sorry ScottK:P [16:16] KisFixedPoint(qreal(0.5)); [16:16] that explicit construction seems unnecessary [16:17] also, the repository is huge, still cloning ^^ [16:17] Could be. [16:17] jr tried qreal(0.5) and that didn't work. [16:18] manchicken added the KisFixedPoint(). [16:18] I didn't notice until later it was a patch of a patch. [16:18] Oo [16:18] (dst_c_in_src - qreal(0.5)) [16:18] that is the very same expression and it works there... [16:19] Yay, I have my tethering set up, and my tiny laptop and I are in business. [16:19] Heya manchicken. [16:19] hiya [16:19] apachelogger claims to have some less awful coding work than the arm stuff needing doing. [16:19] that ain't true :P [16:20] I have management work though :P [16:20] Meh. [16:20] I know I know [16:20]