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[04:42] <electricprism> I just updated my saucy and after login there's only a black screen, no panel, no window borders or desktop - anyone have any idea what could be wrong
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | electricprism might be a missing graphic driver
[04:43] <ubottu> electricprism might be a missing graphic driver: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> electricprism, Update or upgrade, have you used a driver from a manufacturer rather than the repos?
[04:44] <electricprism> wilee-nilee: yes, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-219.23.run
[04:45] <electricprism> wilee-nilee: I'm looking into the link you sent i'll try to investigate the nomodeset in the grub file
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> electricprism, If you use a driver from nvidia, which your advised not to it wont follow a kernel upgrade, the ones in the repos do.
[04:47] <electricprism> wilee-nilee, so how would I go about uninstalling the binary driver and then installing the one from the repo
[04:47] <electricprism> wilee-nilee: It also looks like nomodeset wasn't in my /etc/default/grub - maybe the update adjusted it out of the file as I installed 13.10 with nomodeset on
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> electricprism, That I'm  not up on I have never had to install a graphic driver, I basically know what I have had to do.
[04:48] <electricprism> that's okay, and thank you
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> electricprism, nomodeset would not be there unless you put it there and saved it.
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> electricprism, Basically adding it to grub is a per-session boot to get you in and check the drivers.
[04:49] <electricprism> wilee-nilee: Oh, i see. the Live CD wouldn't even boot without it since Nouveau hates me
[04:49] <electricprism> wilee-nilee: cool, i suppose I should try rebooting and see if i get in, curren't im just using DISPLAY=:0 x-chat
[04:49] <electricprism> thank you again
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> electricprism, Yeah I have seen enough of others problems to just avoid nvidia in general, I don't really need what a higher grade card gives.
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> !vidia
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> !nvidia
[04:50] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
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[10:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[12:59] <penguin42> flash seems broken on ff here - chrome ok
[13:14] <BluesKaj> flash is ok here , just upgraded the kernel tho
[13:14] <penguin42> hmm
[13:16] <BluesKaj> my 13.04 plasma is mucked up
[13:16] <penguin42> haven't got a .4 box any more
[13:17] <BluesKaj> it's my backup OS , but ironically it's the broken one :P
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[17:01] <penguin42> BluesKaj: I had to purge and readd the flash package to get it to work
[17:02] <BluesKaj> ok penguin42 , good to know
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[20:44] <FernandoMiguel> bRoas