[00:14] <AskUbuntu> run Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview on desktop? | http://askubuntu.com/q/314105
[00:26] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Nexus 7 Installer Fails Due to Bad Checksums | http://askubuntu.com/q/314108
[01:57] <iBelieve> popey: ping
[03:07] <esigolo> what irc client are u guy s using Xchat is too confuse LOL
[03:57] <asac> esigolo: irssi ftw
[03:57] <esigolo> what?
[03:58] <asac> irssi for irc
[03:58] <asac> http://irssi.org/
[03:58] <esigolo> ow thanks
[04:02] <asac> and real man add bip to the mix: http://bip.milkypond.org/ https://wiki.linaro.org/Resources/HowTo/BIP
[04:02] <asac> (or an equiv)
[04:03] <esigolo> brb going to test it
[04:03] <asac> :)
[04:03] <esigolo> xD
[04:05] <esigolo> mother of god
[04:05] <esigolo> i'm on matrix?
[04:05] <asac> lol
[04:06] <asac> you might want to change your terminal color profile
[04:06] <asac> :)
[04:06] <esigolo> yes
[04:06] <esigolo> for sure
[04:06] <esigolo> LOL
[04:07] <asac> in gnome terminal i like white on black with xterm color scheme
[04:08] <esigolo> should I restart terminal:?
[04:08] <asac> no ... just change it in preferences live
[04:08] <esigolo> got it
[04:08] <asac> right click
[04:08] <asac> preferences ... and play around until you can read stuff
[04:08] <asac> then you are set
[04:08] <esigolo> much better
[04:09] <asac> so when you do stuff like /channel add etc.
[04:09] <asac> you can use /save
[04:09] <asac> and /layout save
[04:09] <asac> (which will remember the exact position of each channel etc.)
[04:10] <asac> yoiu can move channels around with doing stuff like /window move 8
[04:10] <asac> meaning your current chat channel will be moved to 8 etc.
[04:10] <asac> once you are happy you just say /layout save and next time stuff will be wher eyou want it :)
[04:10] <esigolo> sounds good
[04:10] <asac> ctrl+n and ctrl+p are used to go back and force of channels
[04:10] <esigolo> let me try
[04:11] <asac> or just use /window 8 to go to channel in window 8
[04:11] <asac>  :)
[04:12] <asac> well... anyway. irssi is a very good irc client and has loads of plugins... just requires some investment in learning it. but i guarantee you will never look back :)
[04:14] <esigolo> LoL it's kinda funny
[04:14] <asac> cool. seems you got it then :)
[04:14] <asac> if you use it already you are very good
[04:15] <esigolo> and is better to use on office
[04:15] <esigolo> GUI windows brings alot attention
[04:15] <asac> so once you want to be always on, you can use either screen or as i said, use bip to be a real professional IRC master
[04:15] <asac> yay
[04:16] <asac> there is also a nice windows port
[04:16] <asac> works VERY well for me when i want to pretend that i am working while playing games :)
[04:16] <asac> on windows
[04:16] <esigolo> LOL
[04:16] <asac> j.k.
[04:17] <esigolo> today a fag from network team saw webirc
[04:18] <esigolo> and on my computer
[04:18] <asac> webirc is even worse than xchat :)
[04:18] <asac> :-P
[04:18] <esigolo> yea
[04:20] <asac> anyway, once you want to be always on, just use screen ... or later use bip as i said
[04:21] <asac> but get used to irssi first :)
[04:21] <myalkboy> Hi
[04:21] <asac> hi
[04:21] <esigolo> asac: thanks alot
[04:22] <asac> welcome!
[04:23] <myalkboy> I'm looking to buy a cell phone and install ubuntu on it, I want to know if is there any different between google nexus and LG nexus for Ubuntu compatibility
[04:23] <asac> ricmm: will platform api testsuite land?
[04:23] <asac> :)
[04:23]  * asac hopes that tvoss ever talked to you about it :)
[04:25] <asac> myalkboy: nexus is a brand ... owned by google
[04:25] <esigolo> myalkboy: lg nexus and google nexus 4 is the same think
[04:25] <asac> so all nexus devices are google devices :)
[04:25] <asac> ack ... n4 == lg nexus
[04:25] <asac> just get it
[04:25] <esigolo> yeah
[04:25] <asac> its a great thing
[04:26] <esigolo> thing *
[04:28] <myalkboy> asac: ok thanks allot
[04:30] <asac> myalkboy: esigolo: so whats you interst in here?
[04:30] <asac> just want to run touch or somehting else
[04:30] <asac> ?>
[04:31] <esigolo> i'm a tester lol
[04:31] <asac> cool
[04:31] <esigolo> i'm just trying to test and give some feedback
[04:31] <asac> nice...
[04:31] <esigolo> i have a nexus 4, galaxy s 2 and a galaxy S
[04:31] <myalkboy> asac: just ubuntu user and want to get ubuntu phone
[04:32] <asac> esigolo: just general feedback? or are u a user experience guru ? L)
[04:32] <esigolo> just general feedback
[04:32] <esigolo> as a end user
[04:32] <asac> anyway ... if you have feedback, feel free to include my nick in yor IRC messages (i might read them) :)
[04:32] <asac> cool
[04:33] <esigolo> sure
[04:33] <asac> cool
[04:33] <myalkboy> will I be able to install all everything on Ubuntu phone like what I install on a pc
[04:33] <myalkboy> asac
[04:34] <asac> you can install...
[04:34] <asac> whether they will run, is a different story
[04:34] <asac> :)
[04:34] <asac> we shoot for getting everythying converged for 14.04
[04:35] <myalkboy> Hehe
[04:35] <esigolo> there is something really bothering me! have u tried to slide ubuntu gui using a protection cover?
[04:35] <myalkboy> asac: torrents on touch ?
[04:35] <esigolo> it gets realy hard to slide screns
[04:35] <asac> no ... i don't protect my gadgets :)
[04:35] <asac> myalkboy: cli clients will work for sure ... transmissing UI is probably not working yet
[04:35] <esigolo> screens
[04:36] <asac> yea
[04:36] <asac> thats a usability wart
[04:36] <asac> definitely needs to be fixe
[04:36] <asac> d
[04:36] <esigolo> i had the same problem with all models
[04:37] <asac> esigolo: if you see the same issue end of august still, please remind me
[04:37] <esigolo> sure
[04:37] <asac> yeah... its a glitch (partly implementation, partly design)
[04:37] <myalkboy> esigolo: you have nexus and galaxy , Samsung or nexus galaxy ? You installed ubuntu in both of them ?
[04:38] <esigolo> myalkboy: yes
[04:39] <esigolo> usualy i take a cmw backup from stock rom
[04:39] <myalkboy> Esigolo: is your Galaxy Samsung or nexus ?
[04:39] <asac> fwiw, we focus on nexus devices.... all other android devices, shoulde be very easy to make work if they are supported by lets say cyanogen, but rely on community support
[04:39] <asac> galaxy nexus == low end device -> focus for 13.10
[04:40] <esigolo> galaxy
[04:40] <asac> N4 and later == high end devices -> focus on 14.04 (not meaning they will not work well in 13.10
[04:40] <asac> )
[04:40] <myalkboy> esigolo: is there any device only galaxy ?
[04:41] <asac> no
[04:41] <asac> galaxy is a samsung brand
[04:41] <esigolo> yes
[04:41] <asac> samsung did a device with google
[04:41] <asac> called galaxy nexus
[04:41] <asac> that was the lead device for ice cream sandwich
[04:41] <asac> all other galaxies are samsung
[04:41] <asac> without google
[04:42] <esigolo> i saw a phone called oppo find 5
[04:42] <asac> oppo?
[04:42] <asac> that brand sounds finish :)
[04:42] <asac> finnish
[04:42] <esigolo> looks like a very good piece of work
[04:42] <asac> http://en.oppo.com/product/find5/
[04:42] <esigolo> http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2155
[04:42] <esigolo> yes
[04:43] <asac> who is behi8nd that?
[04:43] <asac> a new startup?
[04:43] <esigolo> i'm thinking on buy one LOL
[04:43] <esigolo> yes
[04:43] <esigolo> oppo is working with xda developers on the software
[04:43] <asac> any idea where they are based?
[04:44] <esigolo> i saw a video on xda tv and i think they have mentioned it there
[04:44] <esigolo> i'm not sure
[04:44] <asac> the web site doesnt even give a hint in contacts etc.
[04:44] <asac> yeah
[04:45] <asac> maybe the yt video has hints
[04:45] <asac> but i prefer (easily) machine parsable address infos :)
[04:45] <esigolo> sorry for my poor english i'm Brazilian and here we have  no daily pratice
[04:45] <asac> no worry
[04:46] <esigolo> i saw some reviews about oppo's
[04:47]  * asac goes for a smoke
[05:07] <esigolo> quit
[05:12] <ricmm> asac: yes, we will soon schedule it
[05:12] <asac> ricmm: ouch ... didn't expect you to respond ... great news!!
[05:12]  * asac drops off to bed :)
[05:13] <asac> talk to you next week!
[05:13] <asac> rock on
[05:13]  * ricmm drops off to bed as well
[05:18]  * snwh is away: Away
[08:29] <Qball> question about 'normal' ubuntu onnexus 7? the images seems to be gone.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7
[10:26] <Qball> is there a way to get a normal ubuntu desktop on nexus 7?
[10:33] <Aruab> Heya!
[10:35] <ogra_> Qball, there is a raring desktop image for nexus7
[10:37] <Qball> ogra_: I tried, the link is dead..
[10:37] <Qball> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[10:37] <Qball> that is where I looked
[10:38] <ogra_> Qball, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/release/
[10:39] <ogra_> nobody updated the wikipage when the image was discontinued ... (feel free to do so)
[10:39] <Qball> ok.. thx
[11:09] <Qball> ogra_: thanks..  it is now booting
[11:27] <xenos1984> hi everybody, i just got my nexus 7, charged it and try to get it to work (with ubuntu touch, of course)
[11:28] <xenos1984> but i don't know how to make it work without wifi connection... i don't have any here and have no intentions to get any
[11:28] <cdesai> ogra_: you put a generic ubuntu initrd (for touch) up somewhere yet?
[11:31] <ogra_> cdesai, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd
[11:31] <cdesai> thanks ogra_
[11:32] <ogra_> we'll soon work that into the android build so running brunch will get it by default
[11:32] <cdesai> the android part for the emulator is done and does work good
[11:32] <cdesai> boots into recovery as well
[11:33] <ogra_> yeah, will be intresting how the flipped setup (and tenn the loop mounted setup) will work with this
[11:33] <ogra_> *then
[11:35] <cdesai> ogra_: the flipped images keep /system as it is, and install ubuntu rootfs to /data, and then the ubuntu initrd mounts it as /, right?
[11:36] <ogra_> right, the current implementation just flips the rootfses around (and runs android inside an lxc container)
[11:36] <ogra_> the next iteration will use img files instead of partitions
[11:37] <ogra_> (loop mounted)
[11:37] <cdesai> I see
[11:37] <ogra_> this setup will become the default for ports where we cant repartition
[11:37] <cdesai>  /system should be used more, since on current high-end devices it's really huge
[11:38] <ogra_> for devices that we can repartition there will be a next iteration that uses partitions again
[11:38] <cdesai> (really huge compared to how much Ubuntu Touch's android part uses)
[11:38] <ogra_> right, it all depends on the ability to change the GPT
[11:38] <ogra_> where we can do that we will use /system (resized properly) as the ubuntu partition
[11:39] <ogra_> on devices where the GPT isnt editable the loop mount setup will have to stay (with some performance impact)
[11:40] <cdesai> I see.
[12:28] <Guest8034> when will be the stable version of ubuntu touch be available for download
[13:42] <Oranger> Hey ! Is Jenkin working ?
[13:53] <m-b-o> Oranger: I guess not, I'm waiting for 17 hours now for a merge
[13:58] <AskUbuntu> ubuntu touch can not load wifi module dhd.ko | http://askubuntu.com/q/314312
[14:01] <esigolo> ls -ltr
[14:01] <esigolo> ls -ltr
[14:01] <esigolo> sorry
[14:06] <Oranger> m-b-o: You are not alone, thank you :)
[14:07] <esigolo> Hello to all
[14:07] <esigolo> I have a doubt
[14:07] <esigolo> autopilot tests are a set of automatic test correct?
[14:07] <esigolo> it is possible to contribute only running tests developed by others?
[14:07] <esigolo> I would like to run the tests on my devices but not sure if it's possible
[14:08] <Oranger> esigolo: Yes you can :)
[14:09] <esigolo> and there is a how to or manual?
[14:09] <m-b-o> http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/tutorial/tutorial.html
[14:10] <m-b-o> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/quality/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/
[14:10] <Oranger> esigolo: Which test do you want to try ?
[14:11] <esigolo> thank you
[14:11] <m-b-o> esigolo: this is interesting too http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/06/autopilot-tests-for-ubuntu-touch-core.html
[14:12] <esigolo> thanks !
[14:15] <esigolo>  impossible to find python-autopilot
[14:17] <m-b-o> esigolo: have you added the ppa?
[14:17] <m-b-o> and apt-get update afterwards?
[14:18] <esigolo> no
[14:18] <esigolo> i did but on the office computer
[14:19] <esigolo> https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa right ?
[14:19] <m-b-o> no, from here http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/quality/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/
[14:20] <m-b-o> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:autopilot/ppa
[14:20] <m-b-o> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libautopilot-qt python-autopilot
[14:20] <esigolo> thanks
[14:23] <esigolo> damm i'm using precise
[14:23] <esigolo> is not supported
[14:24] <esigolo> going to run it from the phone
[14:42] <Qball> hmm touchscreen is a bit flakky
[16:36] <kung> good evening, where do i find the root (sudo) password for the current saucy image?
[16:39] <bjv> it's    "phablet"
[16:40] <bjv> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#User_Accounts
[16:43] <kung> thank you :)
[16:44] <bjv> morphis: is https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/ofono  the best source for current state of mobile data in Touch?
[16:45] <morphis> bjv: it's the main repository, so it should be :)
[16:46] <bjv> i'd created a nm system connection for mobile data on desktop and moved it over
[16:46] <bjv> but it seems if I loose signal, i cannot bring the conn back up
[16:46] <bjv> didnt see anything in syslog
[16:47] <bjv> reboot does consistently fix it, but happens like 3+ times daily in poor coverage areas (indoors)
[16:47] <morphis> bjv: why are you creating the connection on desktop?
[16:47] <bjv> sound familiar?   not certain if nm or ofono issue
[16:47] <bjv> does Touch now provide a UI for creating mobile data connections?
[16:48] <bjv> i created on desktop Ubuntu and adb pushed the system-connection over to /data/ubuntu/etc/NetworkManager
[16:48] <morphis> bjv: afaik not, but mobile data connections should be configured automatically based on the provider you're on
[16:48] <bjv> in the daily preinstall? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130629/
[16:49] <bjv> *looks for phablet-extras ppa
[16:50] <bjv> let me try deleting my manual system-connection on the device from /etc/NetworkManager
[16:50] <bjv> and reboot, and nmcli d wifi off
[16:50] <bjv> .. and see if "the magic happens" with mobile data/provider
[16:50] <morphis> bjv: I am not that familar with the ofono integration within nm but thats the way ofono tries to provision the created context
[16:52] <bjv> the thought is an -extra's ppa is not needed? the ofono preinstalled in Daily would provide same provider detection during provisioning?
[16:53] <morphis> I think so
[16:54] <bjv> dont see the ofono dbus api after a quick web search
[16:55] <bjv> would python/dbus, etc. be the best way to control ofono on the Touch device?
[16:55] <bjv> or is there a purpose-built tool
[16:57] <morphis> bjv: no there is not, but you can use mdbus2 (a dbus interactive shell)
[16:58] <morphis> with dbus introspection it offers you a great access to the ofono dbus api
[16:58] <morphis> bjv: and ofono dbus API documentation is within the source in the doc/ folder
[16:58] <bjv> i'll check it out
[17:13] <deus_> sorry about the stupid question but how to port ubuntu touche for my tablet
[17:13] <deus_> what i need
[17:13] <deus_> ?
[17:16] <deus_> phablet-tools only or more tools are needed to start?
[17:20] <sergiusens> !porting
[17:24] <sergiusens> deus_: start with a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[17:24] <deus_> tnx
[18:48] <hopkinskong> Anyone know which command loads "devices/xxx/xxx/Android.mk"?
[18:49] <hopkinskong> I can't see the include command.
[19:18] <Qball> ogra_: is there a way to grow the partition? currently only uses 6 gig (of 32).. it does not seems to recognize the partition table on mmcblk0 (atleast cfdisk and I also tried gparted)
[19:18] <Qball> they do see right total size.
[20:47] <tidux> does the Nexus 4 work with all Free drivers?
[20:48] <tidux> if not, are there any 100% Free devices that'll work with Ubuntu Touch?
[21:46] <iBelieve> popey: ping
[22:43] <looper> hi there
[23:19] <looper> is there a way to extract ubuntu-rootfs on sdcard and copy it on /data/ubuntu?