[03:19] <ignore_me> Anybody experiencing issues with 13.04 kicking you back to the login screen? After that happens, I usually can't restart or shutdown, just attempt to login again.
[03:27] <bullgard4> ignore_me: This is mostl likely an error of your login manager. You better tell us what your login manager is in order to get help. -- You might find a hint to the trouble in ~/.xsession-errors
[03:27] <bullgard4> -l
[03:29] <ignore_me> bullgard4: Hold on. Let me check.
[03:45] <ignore_me> bullgard4: Lightdm (xubuntu-based voyager 13.04)
[06:55] <samy__> hello
[06:56] <samy__> how to move applications from one workspace to another with mouse?
[06:59] <elfy> click on the window title bar and drag it, if you can't see the bar Alt + click anywhere in app to drag it or right click then Move to Another workspace
[07:00] <samy__> not work
[07:01] <elfy> none of them work?
[07:02] <samy__> i seee
[07:02] <samy__> draged app in first workspace
[07:02] <samy__> cannot open other workspace maybe..
[07:03] <elfy> and moving with right click menu?
[07:03] <samy__> yes
[07:04] <elfy> do you actually have more than one workspace?
[07:05] <samy__> yes
[07:05] <samy__> i have
[07:05] <samy__> 2 workspaces
[07:05] <elfy> then I'm afraid I have no idea why you can't do it
[07:07] <elfy> especially if you get none of the 3 aforementioned methods to work
[07:08] <koegs> did you activate "wrap workspaces when dragging a window of the screen"?
[07:09] <samy__> how to  activate
[07:09] <samy__> where is this tick
[07:09] <koegs> settings -> windows manager -> advanced
[07:09] <bazhang> in ccsm?
[07:09] <koegs> ccsm? we are not talking about compiz...
[07:09] <elfy> not ccsm bazhang
[07:10] <elfy> I assume we aren't talking about compiz
[07:11] <bazhang> right click title bar, move to workspace down
[07:11] <samy__> yes
[07:11] <samy__> i click
[07:11] <samy__> but see now in current workspace
[07:11] <samy__> :D
[07:12] <samy__> "move to  workspace left"
[07:12] <samy__> and see again in current workspace
[07:12] <samy__> maybe is first..
[07:12] <samy__> let me show u
[07:12] <samy__> with pic
[07:12] <elfy> !enter
[07:12] <bazhang> samy__, dont hit the enter key after two words
[07:12] <bazhang> its impossible to read
[07:13] <samy__> http://prikachi.com/images/189/6273189Y.png
[07:15] <koegs> so, as bazhang said, right click on title bar and then "move to another workspace" and then select the workspace should totally work
[07:15] <samy__> only the first workspace of focus
[07:16] <samy__> only first workspace in focus
[07:16] <samy__> i click with mouse in other workspace and can not be opened
[07:17] <elfy> click in other workspace?
[07:17] <samy__> can not be opened
[07:17] <samy__> :D
[07:17] <elfy> samy__: right click title bar - move to another workspace - choose workspace in the menu
[07:18] <samy__> i did
[07:18] <koegs> the title bar of the app! not your systray
[07:18] <samy__> yes
[07:18] <samy__> and see again in first worspace
[07:19] <samy__> click with left button i other workspace and can not be opened
[07:19] <samy__> in*
[07:19] <koegs> !bg
[07:20] <elfy> samy__: http://imagebin.org/262839
[07:20] <elfy> koegs: bet you weren't expecting that :p
[07:20] <samy__> yes ofc
[07:20] <samy__> i try that
[07:20] <samy__> work...
[07:21] <samy__> by stepping with the left mouse button on another workspace it will not open
[07:21] <elfy> no it won't
[07:22] <samy__> how to make it to open?
[07:22] <samy__> with left click
[07:22] <elfy> samy__: make what open?
[07:23] <samy__> want by pressing the left mouse button in another workspace it opens
[07:23] <elfy> as far as I know you can't
[07:24] <bazhang> we were talking about *moving* it to another workspace.  It's *already* open.
[07:26] <samy__> I now have an empty workspace and want to open it by pressing the left mouse button, but it will not open
[07:26] <bazhang> samy__, you understand the difference, right?
[07:26] <samy__> previously opened
[07:27] <samy__> now they can not
[07:27] <bazhang> samy__, I don't think there is any way to do what you are asking, unless there is some language barrier here
[07:28] <koegs> do you want to open the workspace by clicking in the top right corner? or do you want to open the app by clicking on the symbol of the app?
[07:29] <samy__> koegs,
[07:29] <samy__> do you want to open the workspace by clicking in the top right corner? i want this..
[07:31] <koegs> so you are on the "right" workspace, what happens if you click on the symbol for the "left" workspace
[07:33] <samy__> i see sames opened windows
[07:33] <koegs> can you make a screenshot?
[07:34] <samy__> ok
[07:34] <samy__> http://prikachi.com/images/256/6273256H.png
[07:36] <koegs> what the heck... you ARE on the different workspace and you DONT see the same windows...
[07:36] <samy__> this pick is after click in empty workspace
[07:36] <elfy> that's right - you moved the app to the other workspace
[07:38] <samy__> i click to empy workspace
[07:38] <samy__> and all is minimize :D
[07:39] <koegs> aah, you dont want to see the apps from other workspaces in the taskbar?
[07:40] <samy__> yes
[07:41] <koegs> right click on the panel -> panel preferences -> Items -> Window Buttons -> Deactivate "Show windows from all workspaces..."
[07:45] <samy__> ohooooooo
[07:46] <samy__> koegs, this is, thank you very much!
[07:46] <koegs> i am pretty sure this not activated by default...
[07:47] <samy__> yes :D
[07:47]  * elfy thought it was - but then I rarely use the defualt panel setup for longing than 30 minutes
[07:47] <koegs> elfy: just checked with a new user, this option is deactivated by default
[07:48] <elfy> k
[07:48] <elfy> I remove that particular item from panels - and a whole lot more
[07:48] <koegs> me2
[09:21] <gatsu1000> good morning all
[09:21] <gatsu1000> there is someone for a little help?
[09:22] <bazhang> !ask | gatsu1000
[09:23] <gatsu1000> well, the chat is really quiet, just wondering if someone was really there or not
[09:23] <gatsu1000> anyway, my issue: i connect with a desktop through a usb wifi dongle
[09:23] <baizon> gatsu1000: there is always someone here
[09:24] <gatsu1000> i set the password and tell to remember it, so it can auto connect
[09:24] <gatsu1000> when i start the pc, everytime the password pop-up appears
[09:24] <gatsu1000> the password is setted
[09:24] <gatsu1000> but i need to click "connect"
[09:24] <gatsu1000> and not only one
[09:25] <gatsu1000> but 3 times
[09:25] <gatsu1000> everytime, it gives the password windows with the password setted
[09:25] <baizon> gatsu1000: which version of xubuntu?
[09:25] <gatsu1000> 13
[09:27] <gatsu1000> as you can imagine, i'm not really used to xubuntu or linux in general... just trying to learn a bit out of it
[09:28] <Aiena> Hi knome
[09:28] <Aiena> are you available?
[09:33] <gatsu1000> mmm, perhaps gpg daemon have to start at boot?
[09:44] <gatsu1000> oh well... guess i've to find it again in some other manner
[10:41] <Arpad2> is it possible to use a gamepad in xubuntu 13.04?
[10:49] <TheSheep> sure
[10:54] <Arpad2> I've just got one. unfortunately it is wireless, and I couldn't figure out how does it work.
[10:55] <TheSheep> bluetooth, most likely
[10:56] <Arpad2> it has its own usb adaptor
[10:56] <TheSheep> ah, then it's just a normal usb gamepad
[10:57] <Arpad2> how should I "programme" it
[10:58] <TheSheep> no idea what you mean
[10:58] <TheSheep> if a game supports a gamepad, it should let you set the controls -- in the game
[10:59] <Arpad2> ok
[11:00] <Arpad2> should lsmod show a 'gamepad' module?
[11:02] <Arpad2> according to this article it should, but at my  place its not listed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-up-a-gameportgamepad-or-joystick-in-ubuntu.html
[11:03] <TheSheep> no
[11:06] <Arpad2> ok
[11:06] <Arpad2> this is an old article
[13:33] <xylopyrography> hi
[13:34] <xylopyrography> I have a problem
[13:36] <xylopyrography> I just installed xubuntu on flash drive and I set the priority of booting for the flash after that a menu of four  options showed up says
[13:37] <xylopyrography> 1- try 2- install 3....4... and I selected install then nothing just a black screen so any help please ??
[13:39] <xylopyrography> test!!  anybody here ??
[13:39] <baizon> hi, yes
[13:39] <TheSheep> xylopyrography: you might need to try some of the kernel boot options to make it run on your hardware
[13:39] <TheSheep> !boot | xylopyrography
[13:39] <TheSheep> xylopyrography: see the first link in there
[13:39] <baizon> xylopyrography: chose the try option if it boots
[13:39] <baizon> there you will have a install icon
[13:39] <baizon> use it :)
[13:40] <xylopyrography> hang on I will try your suggestions  thx all
[13:48] <xylopyrography> I tried the TRY option it is the same case .
[13:49] <TheSheep> you may try searching the forums or google for you particular computer model to see if someone figured out what boot options you need exactly
[13:49] <TheSheep> otherwise you need to experiment
[13:51] <xylopyrography> I did but still no results mine is asus x201e with celron and  shipped  with ms-dos
[13:51] <nantou> xubuntu 13.04 64 bits, google earth from the repo, I cannot use the "fly to" (the bar to find cities or places) option. All it says is "invalid http request" this has been bothering me for the last 2 days. Any ideas?
[13:51] <TheSheep> nantou: I suppose you need to ask the google support
[13:53] <xylopyrography> by the way the 4 options menu says enter c for command then a page similar to terminal with                                     grub> (at the left margin)
[13:55] <xylopyrography> I entered tab and showed me the possible commands to  be written
[13:55] <TheSheep> that's the boot manager
[13:55] <TheSheep> !grub
[13:55] <xylopyrography> can fix my problem with it or figure it out
[13:56] <TheSheep> your problem is that the kernel fails to boot for some reason, most likely it has problems with some of your hardware
[13:56] <TheSheep> like non-standard bios or something
[13:57] <TheSheep> it can usually be worked around by providing additional boot options to the kernel, so that it knows what to expect
[13:57] <xylopyrography> no the bios is  American Megatrends Inc BIOS
[13:58] <xylopyrography> I thought the problem belongs to the "fat16 or 32 or ntfs "stuff ??
[13:58] <xylopyrography> because these things I don't know anything about them
[13:59] <TheSheep> no, those are filesystems, they get into the action later on
[13:59] <xylopyrography> aha
[14:16] <xylopyrography> identify  xylopyrography
[14:16] <xylopyrography> identify  xylopyrography 1234567890
[14:16] <xylopyrography> identify  xylopyrography 0987654321
[14:17] <koegs> i would chang my password, xylopyrography
[14:17] <xylopyrography> nyahhhhhaaaaaa no I wouldn't
[14:43] <xylopyrography> I wrote ls
[14:49] <nantou> can you suggest a decent how to regarding the installation of the latest google earth from their .exe file?
[15:57] <holstein> nantou: from the .exe intended for the windows operating system?
[15:57] <holstein> !wine | nantou you can try wine
[15:58] <holstein> nantou: otherwise, try referring to this, and see it the information is still relevant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[15:59] <nantou> thanks holstein
[16:10] <moultonl> I've got a xubuntu box with the desktop set up pretty much the way I want it.  can I copy the ~/.config/xfce4/panel over to a new box to at least get the panels set up right?
[16:10] <holstein> moultonl: in theory, you can take the entire /home, and take *everything*
[16:11] <moultonl> holstein, I didn't want everything, and I can't log out because I've got an update going (new box) so I was hoping to just grab the panels
[16:11] <moultonl> holstein, Oh wait, I guess they're done.  I'll be grabbing the whole xfce4 then...
[16:12] <moultonl> Ta Ta!
[16:26] <xubuntu863> test
[16:26] <xubuntu863> hi
[16:26] <xubuntu863> does anybody know how to solve a problem with scim-anthy? it worked till recently, after the last updated it started to be extreeme laggy
[16:34] <Imyoona> test Internet
[17:38] <skafta> Hello to all of you. An upgrade of xubuntu didn't went well and my machine doesn't boot anymore. I will reinstall from live cd, but before I would like to backup the data. Obviusly, from live cd, I get permission denied to the data. Is there a way to deal with this? Thank you very much.
[17:43] <krytarik> skafta: Do it as root from there, for example with "gksudo Thunar" (notice the capitalization).
[17:45] <juraj> Hello people, could anybody help, please? I installed first time Xubuntu 13.04 and system is not offering me any wifi network in "network connections"
[17:46] <krytarik> !wifi | juraj
[17:46] <juraj> I can add wifi manually, but I cant see or I dont wnow where to connect :)
[17:47] <skafta> krytarik, yes this works. Thanxx a lot!
[17:48] <krytarik> Welcome.
[17:49] <krytarik> juraj: So it works, but you just can't enable it via the GUI?
[17:50] <juraj> krytarik: I dont know if it works, I am now connected through cable. btw, I am new with linox
[17:51] <krytarik> juraj: What does this mean then?: "I can add wifi manually".
[17:53] <juraj> krytarik: I can add wifi connection in network manager with "add" button, then I need to fill some SSID etc. there.
[17:58] <krytarik> juraj: But it isn't really added then?
[17:59] <juraj> krytarik: right
[18:01] <krytarik> juraj: And you don't really get an error message either, you confirm the dialog with OK and it just closes and is gone then?
[18:02] <juraj> krytarik: right
[18:02] <juraj> krytarik: even it is created, it doesnt work
[18:04] <juraj> I belive when I see networks in neighborhood and have the possibility to select any one and type password, it would work. But when I cant see...
[18:13] <krytarik> juraj: Try going through the guide I've linked to earlier.
[18:13] <juraj> thank you anyway
[18:14] <krytarik> Welcome.
[18:57] <tomatopotato> how can i set x input as default?
[19:07] <WalterN> hmm
[19:08] <WalterN> does somebody want to troubleshoot why my network printer is not printing from my desktop? (but it does just fine from my laptop)
[19:09] <WalterN> when I add a network printer, it pops up fine.... but when I go to print something, after a while it says "Processing - Not connected?"
[19:10] <tomatopotato> maybe wrong driver selected
[19:12] <WalterN> how do I make sure its the correct driver?
[19:13] <tomatopotato> how did you set it up
[19:14] <WalterN> printers -> add printer -> network printer... and after a second brother printer pops up...
[19:15] <tomatopotato> delete the current one and try it again maybe it works then
[19:15] <WalterN> that does not work
[19:16] <WalterN> oh hmm
[19:16] <WalterN> I could manually change the settings to match whats on my laptop
[19:18] <tomatopotato> tarts a good idea
[19:18] <tomatopotato> thats
[19:18] <TheSheep> tarts too
[19:18] <TheSheep> om nom nom
[19:19] <tomatopotato> love tarts
[19:19] <TheSheep> uh, sorry for OT
[19:19] <tomatopotato> OT?
[19:19] <TheSheep> offtopic
[19:20] <knome> TheSheep, i'm watching
[19:20] <knome> :P
[19:20] <tomatopotato> that you mean Orga Transplant
[19:20] <tomatopotato> Organ
[19:20] <knome> !ot
[19:20] <tomatopotato> ok back to my problem then
[19:21] <tomatopotato> how can i set x input as default input method?
[19:21] <tomatopotato> i have skim at the moment
[19:21] <tomatopotato> scim
[19:23] <TheSheep> tomatopotato: settings manager -> input method
[19:23] <tomatopotato> ok ill try
[19:24] <tomatopotato> btw. and i can choose there between scim and x input?
[19:24] <knome> why don't you go and look?
[19:24] <tomatopotato> because my wife is using the computer right now
[19:25] <tomatopotato> and tells me don't touch my computer, "piss off"
[19:25] <tomatopotato> thats what she said
[19:25] <tomatopotato> but she wants the problem fixed lmao
[19:26] <TheSheep> I'm afraid that this problem is outside of our qualifications.
[19:26] <TheSheep> Maybe buy some flowers or something.
[19:26] <tomatopotato> you mean the wife os problem?
[19:26] <tomatopotato> she hates flowers
[19:27] <tomatopotato> nah she is just busy right now lol
[19:27] <TheSheep> nah, women are materialists, she will accept them even if she said she hates them
[19:27]  * TheSheep is an expert on the matter, he saw a woman once
[19:27] <knome> i'm afraid we're also getting more and more offtopic on this channel
[19:27] <TheSheep> sorry
[19:27] <tomatopotato> been there tried that, they land automatically in the trash can
[19:28] <tomatopotato> but i wanted to know if there is a multiple choice option in settings manager input method
[19:29] <tomatopotato> i mean pop up
[19:29] <tomatopotato> or whatever its called
[19:39] <tomatopotato> thanks TheSheep she just went for a smoke, and i could easily fix the problem
[19:39] <TheSheep> cheers
[19:39] <tomatopotato> it was radio buttons to click and choose and had to log out once and log in again, now it works
[19:40] <tomatopotato> thanks again TheSheep
[19:40] <tomatopotato> you saved the day
[19:40] <tomatopotato> now she is happy, untill... she finds something new to nag about lol
[19:41] <TheSheep> by the way, you can join #xubuntu-offtopic if you want to just chat
[19:51] <Belial`> am i missing something that i don't have during this install that i did last time? thunderbird isn't giving me a notification of new emal.s
[19:51] <Belial`> emails*
[19:53] <WalterN> tomatopotato: well... it worked XD
[19:53] <WalterN> dnssd://Brother%20HL-4040CN%20series._pdl-datastream._tcp.local/
[19:53] <WalterN> for the device URI
[19:55] <tomatopotato> good to know, i usually would go a had and do it with cups
[19:55] <tomatopotato> but that would complicate things
[20:12] <xubuntu279> hi, everybody! can anyone tell me if xubuntu  13.04 (no DE, server mode) operate on VIA C3 processor?
[20:13] <xubuntu279> It has no PAE.
[20:13] <TheSheep> !pae
[20:14] <TheSheep> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-May/035176.html <-- this says you are out of luck :(
[20:15] <Belial`> is anyone else not getting notifications from thunderbird in 13.04?
[20:16] <Belial`> used to notify me every time on new messages.
[20:16] <xubuntu279> so i'll have to install older release? which one? I've tried 12.04 - no luck either... maybe 11.10?
[20:17] <TheSheep> xubuntu279: that e-mail says that pae was discontinued in quantal, so you need precise or earlier
[20:17] <TheSheep> !precise
[20:18] <xubuntu279> ok. thank you very much!
[20:20] <tomatopotato> i don't know either why non pad was dropped
[20:20] <tomatopotato> mean pae
[21:05] <prsteele> Hello everyone; just installed Xubuntu Raring, and everything looks great. However, when I install NVidia drivers, the desktop looks horrible -- icons and styles are all missing. Anyone have an idea how to solve this?
[21:08] <tomatopotato> prsteele: try alternative drivers
[21:09] <prsteele> tomatopotato: The nouveau drivers seem to be fine
[21:10] <tomatopotato> but?
[21:10] <prsteele> tomatopotato: but I was hoping to use wine for games, and in the past that's required Nvidia drivers
[21:10] <prsteele> tomatopotato: (on other machines)
[21:10] <tomatopotato> you should try it
[21:10] <tomatopotato> might just work
[21:11] <prsteele> tomatopotato: maybe, but even then there's pretty bad screen tearing when I scroll on nouveau, but not nvidia
[21:11] <tomatopotato> ?
[21:11] <tomatopotato> so which driver gives trouble?
[21:12] <tomatopotato> nouveau or nvidia?
[21:12] <prsteele> tomatopotato: nouveau looks good, except tearing; nvidia loses icons and such, but doesn't tear
[21:13] <tomatopotato> there was somebody who helped me last time with a similar issue once, but thats quiet long time ago
[21:13] <tomatopotato> it was something about a boot prefix
[21:13] <prsteele> tomatopotato: hm. I know a solution exists, I'm using a slightly older version of Xubuntu and Nvidia drivers on the computer next to me, and its fine
[21:13] <tomatopotato> something like pci=0 or such
[21:14] <tomatopotato> TheSheep:  helped me i think, i cant remeber
[21:16] <tomatopotato> prsteele:
[21:17] <tomatopotato> prsteele: did you delete the neveau drivers before installing the nvidia?
[21:17] <prsteele> tomatopotato: no
[21:17] <tomatopotato> you must do that first, delete all traces of that driver first and then install the nvidia
[21:17] <tomatopotato> or vice versa
[21:18] <prsteele> tomatopotato: alright, I'll try that (will need to reboot...). Thanks!
[21:18] <tomatopotato> np, that was what solved it for me
[21:18] <tomatopotato> as i can recall
[21:18] <tomatopotato> couse they are troubeling each other
[21:26] <prsteele> tomatopotato: hm, that didn't seem to do it
[21:26] <tomatopotato> did you try either or
[21:27] <prsteele> tomatopotato: I purged nouveau, purged nvidia, installed nvidia, rebooted
[21:27] <prsteele> tomatopotato: and now all the icons and styles are messed up again
[21:27] <tomatopotato> what give you xorg log?
[21:28] <prsteele> tomatopotato: where?
[21:29] <tomatopotato> in here /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:29] <prsteele> tomatopotato: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[21:29] <prsteele> tomatopotato: anything I"m looking for? Its 751 lines long
[21:30] <tomatopotato> put it up on pastebin, or such, usually you are looking for something like (EE)
[21:31] <prsteele> http://pastebin.com/5Ce7wDXx
[21:33] <tomatopotato> better post your dmesg to
[21:34] <prsteele> http://pastebin.com/MMjdmXhp
[21:36] <tomatopotato> well im out of ideas, i cant remeber what it was, but you can stick around and keep those Xorg log and dmesg links and ask others in here, im sure somebody will be able to help, you need just a bit of patience
[21:36] <prsteele> tomatopotato: thanks!
[21:36] <prsteele> tomatopotato: I might just try rolling back xfce versions to see what happens...
[21:36] <tomatopotato> the logs will help others to troubleshoot
[23:31] <nantou> i deleted google earth from synaptic, but the icon in menu-internet is still there. Odd thing is: if i right click on the xubuntu icon top left and edit the menus, the google earth access icon is not there
[23:33] <heoyea> call ghostbusters
[23:47] <dro_> hi everybody
[23:48] <dro_> I have a little question : why when I restart my computer (xubuntu 13.04), the volume go always back to 100% power ?
[23:48] <dro_> it always destroy my ears :/
[23:48] <dro_> if anyone have an idea :)