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apacheloggerScottK, yofel: regarding the removed symbols ... possibly parts of the library are not built on arm at all?00:26
smartboyhwDamn, who run the 4.10.5 script? I have got no chance to run it then:(02:31
=== jalcine- is now known as jalcine
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+related-packages lol03:34
smartboyhwahoneybun, congrats!06:35
yofelsmartboyhw: I ran it. --sru mode is not fully automatic. I'll reserve 4.11.3 for you ;)08:29
yofelI also wasn't sure whether the change I did really worked. (It did)08:30
=== Esokrates is now known as GEO
yofelok, ksudoku build on armhf fixed, now to digikam08:37
smartboyhwyofel, LOL08:40
smartboyhwhttps://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-411-beta-209:02
smartboyhwyofel et al. please check09:03
smartboyhwRiddell, ^09:05
yofelsmartboyhw: ack09:08
smartboyhwyofel, publishing.09:08
tester56hi, I get a black screen after plasma splash ends with kde 4.1109:09
tester56is this a known issue? are the devs aware? is there a bug report?09:09
tester56kde 4.11 is great , it would be pitty if this bug would not be fixed09:10
yofela black screen that stays or does plasma come up later?09:10
tester56plasma comes up later09:10
tester56the wait time is very different09:10
tester56somtimes one second sometimes 20 seconds09:10
yofelknown issue yes, but I'm not sure if there's really a kde bug report for that (didn't check yet)09:11
tester56so this is not kubuntu specific?09:11
tester56because guest session behaves fine ... when i delte all my configs the first startup is fine ... it does not matter if i change someting or not  the next startup shows the issue again09:13
smartboyhwThat's a success:)09:13
smartboyhwtester56, :O09:13
yofelonly makes it more weird :/09:13
tester56so it seems some program is writing config automatically that is responsible for the problem09:14
tester56yes the issue is weired but it happens with 2 machines independently set up09:14
tester56installed daily builds09:14
smartboyhwOK now fixing 4.10.5.09:14
tester56no special config09:14
tester56has nobody of you experienced this?09:15
tester56is driver independent ... kwin runs ... only plasma is missing 09:15
yofelit happens here too, it seems like ksplash simply quits too early. I just didn't have time to file a bug report for it09:16
tester56would be nice if you report it as i am not so experienced09:17
tester56thank you very much09:17
smartboyhwyofel, do we have packaging branches for 4.10.5?09:20
yofelno, there's no bzr branches for the SRU packages09:20
smartboyhwyofel, so I can't run bzr-buildpackage-ppa right?09:22
yofelno. Pull the package from the ppa, update it, debuild -S, upload back09:22
smartboyhwyofel, alright.09:23
smartboyhwyofel, E: kdesdk-scripts: shell-script-fails-syntax-check usr/bin/cvsversion in kdesdk....09:44
smartboyhw:O09:44
yofelwas that recently changed? if not ignore it or check whether that's fixed in 4.1109:44
yofeluh09:45
yofelthat script is weird09:45
yofelrather that's utterly broken09:45
smartboyhwyofel, yeah. The error doesn't exist in 4.10.4.09:47
yofellet me investigate something09:47
yofelwell, it's broken there too09:48
smartboyhwAnd let me fix knetwalk too.09:48
yofeland git says that was last changed 199909:48
smartboyhwyofel, :O09:48
smartboyhw1999!!?!!?!?!?09:49
yofelor rather most of the script is from back then09:49
smartboyhwThat's one year after I was BORN for the god09:49
yofellast changed 200409:49
smartboyhw's sake09:49
yofelhttp://paste.kde.org/78572009:49
yofelwell, I guess the script works when used properly09:50
yofelit's just not a proper shell script from line 3 ff09:51
yofelI would ignore it. Whoever still uses CVS these days may suffer for it09:51
smartboyhwyofel, knetwork feels weird...09:52
smartboyhws/knetwork/knetwalk/09:52
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "yofel, knetwalk feels weird..."09:52
smartboyhwThat package doesn't have install files, nothing.09:52
smartboyhwAnd now it fails because of a test.09:52
* smartboyhw is thinking of CMake problems.09:52
yofeloh09:52
yofelwait what?09:53
smartboyhwyofel, ?09:53
yofelwondering why it would fail now09:53
* yofel checks what upstream did09:53
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy in archive, raring in beta ppa | 4.10.5 ninjas/raring WIP| 4.10.4 in raring-proposed | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj
yofelhttp://paste.kde.org/78572609:54
smartboyhwyofel, I think that thing was committed to the 4.10 branch when it should have been committed into the 4.11 branch.09:55
yofelwell, it's a loop bugfix so that's fine, it just seems like albert messed the test up09:55
yofelbut let me re-check09:55
yofelsmartboyhw: btw. as it's a single-binary package it doesn't *need* an install file09:57
smartboyhwyofel, I know.09:57
yofelit's just nice to have so you don't successfully build a potentially empty package09:57
yofel(already happened)09:57
smartboyhwyofel, there is abstractgridtest_automoc.cpp.files09:58
smartboyhwIn obj_x86-64_linux_gnu/tests09:58
smartboyhwWeird korundum: It gives an orange light, but the buildlog for i386 doesn't give anything (symbols or lintian or --list-missing)10:01
yofelok, broken in master too :S10:01
smartboyhwyofel, :S10:01
yofelsmartboyhw: it's yellow because there's no lintian log10:01
smartboyhwyofel, ah10:02
yofelnot sure what to do with that10:02
yofelI mean, I could mark it green and not care... but...10:02
yofelfeels wrong somehow10:02
yofelbut like this it's forever yellow10:02
smartboyhwyofel, LOL10:03
smartboyhwyofel, BTW perlkde so many E: lintian warnings10:03
smartboyhwE: libkdeedu source: malformed-override Override of dbg-package-missing-depends for kdeedu (expecting libkdeedu) at line 110:03
smartboyhw:O10:03
yofelyeah, nobody fixed that one. leave it10:04
yofelno unnecessary changes for SRU's please10:04
smartboyhwyofel, alright10:04
smartboyhwyofel, from what I'm seeing here, kdesdk and knetwalk is the only packages having serious problems.10:05
smartboyhwOthers are OK.10:05
yofelkdenetwork fixed?10:05
yofeland kdeplasma-addons10:05
smartboyhwyofel, these are the other problems. How did kdeplasma-addons fail?10:06
yofelReversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.10:06
yofeldpkg-source: info: if patch '0001-use-KRandom-avoid-modulo-bias.patch' is correctly applied by quilt, use 'quilt refresh' to update it10:06
smartboyhwBuild interrupted wasn't clear enough:P10:06
yofelupstream patch, drop it10:07
yofelor wait, I'll do it10:07
yofelI have the package here anyway10:07
smartboyhwyofel, alright then10:07
smartboyhwkdenetwork?10:07
yofelneeds to be dfsg-ified10:07
yofelthe diff is huge so I lost motivation to look at it :P10:07
smartboyhw~dfsg or +dfsg?10:07
smartboyhwyofel, LOL LOL LOL LOL10:07
yofel+dfsg10:07
smartboyhwyofel, gimme the package;P10:07
yofelit's the whole merge-split-repositories thing10:08
smartboyhwUh10:08
yofelsmartboyhw: pull-lp-source kdenetwork, then pull original 4.10.4, compare, pull 4.10.5, apply diff10:08
yofeltar up the new thing and package it10:08
smartboyhwyofel, you mean compare 4.10.4 with original or with 4.10.510:09
smartboyhw?10:09
yofeloriginal and apply diff to vanilla 4.10.510:10
yofeldon't forget to quilt pop all patches first10:10
yofelkdeplasma-addons up10:10
* smartboyhw rather likes uupdate though10:10
yofelwell, that'll put the debian dir into 4.10.510:10
yofelyou first need to re-tar 4.10.5 after removing those skype icons10:11
smartboyhwyofel, oh hell, skype icons:(10:11
smartboyhwyofel, how to generate diff?10:11
yofeldiff -ruN 4.10.4 4.10.4+dfsg10:12
yofelor something like that10:12
smartboyhwyofel, you mean http://paste.kde.org/785756/ ? (the one with 4.10.5 is the pull-lp-source one, the one without is the original)10:17
smartboyhwI think I forgotten to quilt pop though10:18
yofelquilt pop, and remove the debian folder10:19
yofels/remove/move/10:19
kubotuyofel meant: "quilt pop, and move the debian folder"10:19
smartboyhwyofel, damn I removed it already10:19
smartboyhw....10:19
yofelwell, pull again later ^^10:19
* yofel doesn't get what's wrong with that test...10:20
smartboyhwyofel, anyways, move it to where?10:20
yofelsomewhere else? tmp?10:20
apachelogger"Clementine reads tags in a separate clementine-tagreader process so that bugs like this don't crash Clementine completely."10:21
yofel  Your libPCRE is too old.  KJS requires at least PCRE4.510:21
yofelwhat?10:21
smartboyhwyofel, you mean move not copy right?10:21
yofelsmartboyhw: move, otherwise it'll still be in the diff10:21
* apachelogger thinks rekonq should put its UI in a different process so that bugs don't crash the UI completely10:22
yofeltrue10:22
apacheloggeroh btw, qt5 failed because of bashism10:23
smartboyhwyofel, eh? The remaining ones are then the .pc files...10:23
apacheloggertrying to fix now10:23
yofelsmartboyhw: huh? that shouldn't be the case10:23
smartboyhwyofel, what's the case then?10:24
smartboyhw.....10:24
yofelsmartboyhw: this is wha you should see: http://paste.kde.org/78576810:25
smartboyhwyofel, the problem is: When I pull-lp-source I don't get +dfsg.10:25
smartboyhw...10:25
yofelwhat *do* you get?10:26
smartboyhwyofel, 4.10.410:26
smartboyhwWith debian inside.10:26
smartboyhw4.10.4-0ubuntu110:26
yofelerk, that's the leftover package from the merge10:26
yofelpull-lp-source kdenetwork raring-proposed10:26
smartboyhwyofel, MEH10:26
yofelsomeone needs to request removal of kdenetwork and kdeadmin sources in saucy10:27
smartboyhwyofel, does that only involve a bug?10:27
smartboyhwreporting?10:27
yofelafaik yes, and subscribing ubuntu-archive10:27
smartboyhwyofel, is there a template?10:28
yofeljust look for a similar report10:28
yofelusually it's something like "Please remove source X from saucy" with explenation why10:28
yofelpossibly check what binaries are 4.10.4-only. Those should be removed too10:29
yofeloh, kdesdk and kdetoys probably need to be removed too10:29
smartboyhwyofel, got the diff you have now.10:30
yofel*sigh*10:32
yofelclang is broken in saucy10:32
smartboyhwyofel, :(10:32
smartboyhwyofel, um it takes a long time to compare which binary in kdesdk doesn't exist anymore:P10:37
yofelwell, showsrc will tell you what binaries there are, after that just check with policy what's there and what not10:37
smartboyhwyofel, policy?10:38
yofelapt-cache10:38
yofeljust leave that for later and finish kdenetwork first10:38
smartboyhwyofel, so I patch in the diff to 4.10.5 using patch -p1 ?10:39
yofelthat won't work for the binary diff I think, you'll have to manually delete the files10:40
yofelor that's what I did10:40
smartboyhwyofel, alright10:40
yofelif someone knows a better way I'm open for suggestions10:40
smartboyhwyofel, do you have to change the CMakeLists.txt in the icons folder too?10:42
* smartboyhw moves in the debian folder10:42
yofeluh, is that in the diff?10:42
smartboyhwyofel, no.10:43
yofelthen no10:43
smartboyhwyofel, hmm the structure for 4.10.5's kdenetwork changed a lot10:43
smartboyhwcmake and doc directory doesn't exist anymore10:43
yofelas I said, it's the merge-all-split-repos-into-one-blog thing10:43
smartboyhwyofel, yeah:P10:44
yofel*blob10:44
smartboyhwyofel, oh god, the patches need updating then...10:50
yofelyeah, have fun ;)10:50
smartboyhwyofel, how to remove an empty patch?10:51
yofelwhat's an empty patch?10:51
smartboyhwyofel, um, like it doesn't apply to anything10:51
smartboyhwJust don't push to that patch and remove it directly?10:51
yofelyeah, remove it from series, which one is it?10:52
smartboyhwyofel, kubuntu_05_samba_install.diff (due to wrong directory)10:52
smartboyhwThat blob thing:P10:52
yofelfix the directory name?10:53
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, that might be better:P10:53
yofelmeh, actually *building* the knetwalk test would help I guess10:57
smartboyhwyofel, hmm, I can't get the patch working, it just can't refresh11:01
smartboyhwnot even when I recreated the patch from scratch11:01
yofellet me please finally finish knetwalk, then I'll look at it11:01
smartboyhwyofel, :)11:02
smartboyhwAnyways, I'm off to dinner.11:02
soeegood morning11:17
tester56one question: why are we using the old network manager plasmoid in saucy kde 4.11?11:23
tester56the new one is more flexible11:24
yofelis the new one already released?11:24
yofel0.9.0.9 was the last thing I saw lamarque posting for public11:25
yofel(not that the new one isn't great)11:25
tester56it has been in kde master for a longer period of time (tried with project neon)11:27
tester56give me a sec. i am searching for the link ...11:29
yofelyeah, it works great in neon, but for archive packaging I would prefer somehing that lamarque stamps a version on11:33
tester56i can't find the website where it was described :-(11:34
tester56but when it is already merged in master why isn't it part of the betas?11:35
yofelhttp://grulja.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/plasma-nm-after-the-solid-sprint/ ?11:35
yofelit's not part of the beta's because it's not part of the KDE SC, it's in extragear11:35
tester56that's a pretty old state 11:36
yofelhttp://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.de/2013/06/im-going-to-akademy-2013.html is the last news I know of11:37
tester56so it doesn't look like it will land in saucy?11:38
yofelwell, akademy is in 2 weeks, feature freeze in 2 months, so as long as we get some release to package it'll be in11:39
tester56hopefully it lands as I consider it a major improvement11:40
tester56another issue I noticed was, that in saucy appmenu-gtk does not work 11:46
Peace-guys 11:47
Peace-i have just installed another time kubuntu 13.04 11:47
Peace-and i got the silly bug unmanaged  on network manager11:47
Peace-wtf always the same 11:47
Peace-sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf11:48
Peace-put true instead of false 11:48
Peace-restarted network manager service => fixed11:48
smartboyhwyofel, you can help me with knetwork now?12:56
smartboyhwkubotu: newversion rekonq 2.3.212:58
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119623712:58
smartboyhw^ ahoneybun should try out this, it's simplier:P12:59
yofelsmartboyhw: we're getting guests here shortly, so only if it's quick13:00
yofelah right, the patch13:00
smartboyhwyofel, yeah. The patch.13:00
smartboyhwI recreated it and it still says it's empty and I can't refresh13:00
yofelhm, it works fine if I do it the quick and dirty way13:01
smartboyhwyofel, hmm it doesn't for me.13:01
yofeli.e. s/filesharing/kdentwork-filesharing/ in the file paths in the patch13:01
yofelsmartboyhw: here's what I have now: http://paste.kde.org/78583413:02
yofelhm, digikam is still building on Scott's arm machine (61%). I think I'm already past the failure13:06
BluesKajHowdy all13:06
smartboyhwyofel, I'm giving up, quilt really keeps complaining.13:09
yofelsmartboyhw: just try with mine?13:09
smartboyhwyofel, it just says nothing in there.13:10
smartboyhwEven with I stuffed things using your patch13:10
yofelthat can't be...13:11
smartboyhwyofel, and actually, kdeplasma-addons failed to build, so I may go and fix that.13:11
yofelcp: cannot stat 'debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_kdeobservatory.so': No such file or directory13:13
yofelfun13:13
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, extra files...13:13
yofelno, MISSING fiels13:14
yofel*files13:14
yofelplease check what happened, that shouldn't happen13:14
smartboyhwyofel, OK.13:15
smartboyhwyofel, it failed for me even earlier, I can't pass through the build itself.13:21
yofelhm, that I haven't tried13:22
yofelanyway, I'm off13:22
smartboyhwyofel, .........13:22
smartboyhwLinking CXX shared module ../../lib/plasma_wallpaper_weather.so13:22
smartboyhwcd wallpapers/weather && /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/link.txt --verbose=113:22
smartboyhw/usr/bin/c++  -fPIC -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wformat-security -fno-exceptions -DQT_NO_EXCEPTIONS -fno-check-new -fno-common -Woverloaded-virtual -fno-threadsafe-statics -fvisibility=hidden -Werror=return-type -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_DEB13:22
smartboyhwUG -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--fatal-warnings -Wl,--no-undefined -lc  -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--no-undefined -shared -Wl,-soname,plasma_wallpaper_weather.so -o ../../lib/plasma_wallpaper_weather.so CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/plasma_wallpaper_weather_automoc.o CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/weatherwallpaper.o CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/backgrounddelegate.o CMakeFil13:22
smartboyhwes/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/backgroundlistmodel.o /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3.0.0 /usr/lib/libkio.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/libkfile.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libknewstuff3.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4.11.0 ../../lib/libplasmaweather.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3.0.0 /usr/lib/libknewstuff3.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libkio.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtNetwork.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt13:22
smartboyhwXml.so /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtSvg.so -Wl,-rpath,/home/smartboyhw/4.10.5/kdeplasma-addons-4.10.5/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/lib: 13:22
smartboyhw../../../wallpapers/marble/marble.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void Marble::MarbleWallpaper::paint(QPainter*, const QRectF&)’:13:23
smartboyhw../../../wallpapers/marble/marble.cpp:202:64: error: no matching function for call to ‘Marble::GeoPainter::GeoPainter(13:23
smartboyhwOops13:23
* smartboyhw has copied the link but...13:23
smartboyhwhttp://paste.kde.org/785840/http://paste.kde.org/785840/13:23
smartboyhwWHAT HAPPENED WITH MY KEYBOARD!?!?!?!?13:23
* smartboyhw thinks he should really rather go rekonq packaging:(13:23
smartboyhwAnd maybe file the removal bugs.13:33
smartboyhwBug 119624513:42
ubottubug 1196245 in kdesdk (Ubuntu) "Please remove source kdesdk from saucy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119624513:42
smartboyhwSomeone review rekonq: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/rekonq_2.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc13:47
smartboyhwAnd libkfbapi: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/libkfbapi_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc14:32
* smartboyhw is starting to think his KDE SC 4.10.5 packaging failure is due to him not in raring.14:46
=== emma is now known as em
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: can I get a ec2?15:10
smartboyhwahoneybun, no. I have NO access to EC2, I'm not yet a full Kubuntu developer.15:11
smartboyhwahoneybun, which package do you want to work on?:)15:11
ahoneybunI must want for Riddell then15:11
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: rekonq like you said15:11
ahoneybunmaybe? ;)15:11
smartboyhwahoneybun, eh, I did it already:P15:11
* smartboyhw hides15:11
ahoneybunoh15:11
ahoneybunthats ok15:11
smartboyhwahoneybun, sorry.15:12
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: I said it was ok lol15:12
smartboyhwahoneybun, I know:)15:12
ahoneybunyep15:13
smartboyhwahoneybun, do you want to try tomahawk or nootka or plasma-widget-quickaccess?15:15
smartboyhw:P15:15
smartboyhwOr you want to try 4.10.5 packaging fixing? (Sadly you're not in ~kubuntu-ninjas, Riddell should add you in...)15:15
smartboyhwAnd he quit.15:16
smartboyhwI think I scared him away:P15:17
ahoneybunno15:17
smartboyhwahoneybun, no for what?15:17
ahoneybundid not scare me15:17
ahoneybun lol15:17
smartboyhwlol15:17
ahoneybunmy wifi jumped15:17
smartboyhw<smartboyhw> ahoneybun, do you want to try tomahawk or nootka or plasma-widget-quickaccess?15:17
smartboyhw<smartboyhw> :P15:17
smartboyhw<smartboyhw> Or you want to try 4.10.5 packaging fixing? (Sadly you're not in ~kubuntu-ninjas, Riddell should add you in...)15:17
smartboyhw^ ahoneybun select :P15:17
smartboyhwHow's docs BTW?15:18
ahoneybunI think pretty good15:18
ahoneybunif not great15:18
ahoneybunsmartboyhw: do you have a trello?15:18
smartboyhwahoneybun, I do have a trello.15:18
smartboyhwI'm in the Kubuntu organization of trello. duh:P15:19
ahoneybunlol15:19
ahoneybunhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs15:19
smartboyhwahoneybun, looks nice:)15:21
ahoneybunthanks15:22
yofelahoneybun: if you need somewhere to work in: "ssh -p 2224 yofel.dyndns.org"15:22
* smartboyhw sshs into yofel's site;P15:23
yofelyou can't yet, I'll add you15:23
ahoneybunlol15:23
smartboyhwlol15:23
yofelnow15:24
* smartboyhw wonders why yofel didn't add him:P15:24
yofelsmartboyhw: can you get in?15:28
smartboyhwyofel, NO>15:29
smartboyhwPermission denied (publickey) again.15:29
yofelhm... I added smartboyhw@smartboyhw-Compaq-Presario-CQ41-Notebook-PC15:30
smartboyhwyofel, is it from my LP page?15:30
yofelyes15:30
smartboyhwyofel, uh:(15:30
smartboyhwhttps://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/simon_0.4.1-0ubuntu1.dsc (for simon)15:31
smartboyhwhttps://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/rekonq_2.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc (for rekonq)15:31
smartboyhwhttps://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/libkfbapi_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc (for libkfbapi)15:31
smartboyhwREVIEWERS PLZ.15:32
yofelsmartboyhw: can you pastebin ssh -vvv or so please?15:33
yofelargh15:33
yofelssh -p 2224 ubuntu@yofel.dyndns.org15:33
yofelmy fault15:33
smartboyhwyofel, ah15:33
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, it works15:34
yofelok, use it if you need it. That's an LXC chroot so you can't cause any damage15:35
smartboyhwyofel, great.15:35
* smartboyhw doesn't have any use now actually though15:35
Quintasanyofel: wrt my facebook post16:01
Quintasanthis is an ongoing joke on my year16:01
QuintasanYou know the book "Thinking in Java"?16:01
yofeldidn't read it, but I know of it16:01
Quintasanso the prof who gives the lecture (I rarely attend that though) has this peculiar way of pronoucing "th"16:02
Quintasan"this" sounds like "zis" etc16:02
QuintasanAnd he tried to say the title of the book16:02
Quintasanand it ended up as "Sinking in Java"16:02
yofelhehehe16:03
QuintasanThat would be kind of funny once16:03
Quintasanbut then someone went ahead and made this16:03
Quintasanhttp://pwr.quintasan.pl/sinking.jpg16:03
yofelrofl16:04
QuintasanWhat's worse we are actually sinking here16:04
QuintasanHe didn't pass the half of the year on the first exam and now we have to retake it16:04
yofelI could actually do a similiar picture except for the sinking part here, because the defacto standard literature here in germany is "Java is also only an isle" from galileo computing16:05
smartboyhwyofel, how does one get the beautiful lxc screen on your server? I can't find the way it seems:P16:05
Quintasanyofel: LOL16:05
yofelsmartboyhw: the bottom part is byobu with tmux backend16:06
Quintasantmux++16:06
yofelthe prompt is http://paste.kde.org/785894/ in .bashrc16:06
smartboyhwyofel, the lxc-server it runs on the ubuntu template or the ubuntu-cloud template?16:07
yofelthat's the default ubuntu template with a few extra packages that I installed later16:07
* smartboyhw is installing byobu in his own lxc16:08
yofelssh + byobu = win16:08
smartboyhwyofel, LOL16:11
* yofel wonders what nvidia developer had the idea to interpret 0% brightness literally16:31
shadeslayerheh16:31
yofelwhen I go completely down, the display stays on, but the backlight shuts off16:32
shadeslayeryofel: there was a discussion / patch somewhere to not do that in KDE16:32
shadeslayeri.e you could only take down the brightness to 1% ?16:32
shadeslayeror some respectable amount16:32
yofelheh16:33
shadeslayeryofel: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/?p=203#.UdBLMKa9LCR16:34
shadeslayersomething I never thought about ^^16:35
* yofel did some boinc calculations for SETI a few years ago ^^16:37
ScottKshadeslayer doesn't read enough science fiction then.  It's not a rare question in the genre.18:50
shadeslayerScottK: I was too pre occupied with finding the answer to the question "How do we *get* to a hypothetical habitable planet 1 light year away" 19:15
shadeslayerneed FTL drives ... also raises the question how do we communicate once we reach said plannet19:17
shadeslayer*planet19:17
shadeslayerneed FTL communications19:17
ScottKThat or generation ships.19:28
shadeslayerGeneration ships seem like a short term solution19:30
shadeslayerplus, messy19:30
shadeslayerwhat if by the time a generation ship reaches said planet, we've figured out FTL travel19:31
shadeslayersame issue with things like cryogenics19:31
shadeslayerScottK: http://www.sfwriter.com/stshould.htm19:32
shadeslayerI really really like that story ^^19:32
ScottKGood story.  That theme is repeated as well.  Of course generally when the generation ship leaves, FTL travel is thought to be impossible.  If you never leave assuming that'll get worked out, if you're wrong, you never leave.19:39
shadeslayerScottK: true, you have to make a start somewhere19:41
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lordievaderGood evening.20:19
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