[00:26] <apachelogger> ScottK, yofel: regarding the removed symbols ... possibly parts of the library are not built on arm at all?
[02:31] <smartboyhw> Damn, who run the 4.10.5 script? I have got no chance to run it then:(
[03:34] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+related-packages lol
[06:35] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, congrats!
[08:29] <yofel> smartboyhw: I ran it. --sru mode is not fully automatic. I'll reserve 4.11.3 for you ;)
[08:30] <yofel> I also wasn't sure whether the change I did really worked. (It did)
[08:37] <yofel> ok, ksudoku build on armhf fixed, now to digikam
[08:40] <smartboyhw> yofel, LOL
[09:02] <smartboyhw> https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-411-beta-2
[09:03] <smartboyhw> yofel et al. please check
[09:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ^
[09:08] <yofel> smartboyhw: ack
[09:08] <smartboyhw> yofel, publishing.
[09:09] <tester56> hi, I get a black screen after plasma splash ends with kde 4.11
[09:09] <tester56> is this a known issue? are the devs aware? is there a bug report?
[09:10] <tester56> kde 4.11 is great , it would be pitty if this bug would not be fixed
[09:10] <yofel> a black screen that stays or does plasma come up later?
[09:10] <tester56> plasma comes up later
[09:10] <tester56> the wait time is very different
[09:10] <tester56> somtimes one second sometimes 20 seconds
[09:11] <yofel> known issue yes, but I'm not sure if there's really a kde bug report for that (didn't check yet)
[09:11] <tester56> so this is not kubuntu specific?
[09:13] <tester56> because guest session behaves fine ... when i delte all my configs the first startup is fine ... it does not matter if i change someting or not  the next startup shows the issue again
[09:13] <smartboyhw> That's a success:)
[09:13] <smartboyhw> tester56, :O
[09:13] <yofel> only makes it more weird :/
[09:14] <tester56> so it seems some program is writing config automatically that is responsible for the problem
[09:14] <tester56> yes the issue is weired but it happens with 2 machines independently set up
[09:14] <tester56> installed daily builds
[09:14] <smartboyhw> OK now fixing 4.10.5.
[09:14] <tester56> no special config
[09:15] <tester56> has nobody of you experienced this?
[09:15] <tester56> is driver independent ... kwin runs ... only plasma is missing 
[09:16] <yofel> it happens here too, it seems like ksplash simply quits too early. I just didn't have time to file a bug report for it
[09:17] <tester56> would be nice if you report it as i am not so experienced
[09:17] <tester56> thank you very much
[09:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, do we have packaging branches for 4.10.5?
[09:20] <yofel> no, there's no bzr branches for the SRU packages
[09:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, so I can't run bzr-buildpackage-ppa right?
[09:22] <yofel> no. Pull the package from the ppa, update it, debuild -S, upload back
[09:23] <smartboyhw> yofel, alright.
[09:44] <smartboyhw> yofel, E: kdesdk-scripts: shell-script-fails-syntax-check usr/bin/cvsversion in kdesdk....
[09:44] <smartboyhw> :O
[09:44] <yofel> was that recently changed? if not ignore it or check whether that's fixed in 4.11
[09:45] <yofel> uh
[09:45] <yofel> that script is weird
[09:45] <yofel> rather that's utterly broken
[09:47] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah. The error doesn't exist in 4.10.4.
[09:47] <yofel> let me investigate something
[09:48] <yofel> well, it's broken there too
[09:48] <smartboyhw> And let me fix knetwalk too.
[09:48] <yofel> and git says that was last changed 1999
[09:48] <smartboyhw> yofel, :O
[09:49] <smartboyhw> 1999!!?!!?!?!?
[09:49] <yofel> or rather most of the script is from back then
[09:49] <smartboyhw> That's one year after I was BORN for the god
[09:49] <yofel> last changed 2004
[09:49] <smartboyhw> 's sake
[09:49] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/785720
[09:50] <yofel> well, I guess the script works when used properly
[09:51] <yofel> it's just not a proper shell script from line 3 ff
[09:51] <yofel> I would ignore it. Whoever still uses CVS these days may suffer for it
[09:52] <smartboyhw> yofel, knetwork feels weird...
[09:52] <smartboyhw> s/knetwork/knetwalk/
[09:52] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "yofel, knetwalk feels weird..."
[09:52] <smartboyhw> That package doesn't have install files, nothing.
[09:52] <smartboyhw> And now it fails because of a test.
[09:52]  * smartboyhw is thinking of CMake problems.
[09:52] <yofel> oh
[09:53] <yofel> wait what?
[09:53] <smartboyhw> yofel, ?
[09:53] <yofel> wondering why it would fail now
[09:53]  * yofel checks what upstream did
[09:54] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/785726
[09:55] <smartboyhw> yofel, I think that thing was committed to the 4.10 branch when it should have been committed into the 4.11 branch.
[09:55] <yofel> well, it's a loop bugfix so that's fine, it just seems like albert messed the test up
[09:55] <yofel> but let me re-check
[09:57] <yofel> smartboyhw: btw. as it's a single-binary package it doesn't *need* an install file
[09:57] <smartboyhw> yofel, I know.
[09:57] <yofel> it's just nice to have so you don't successfully build a potentially empty package
[09:57] <yofel> (already happened)
[09:58] <smartboyhw> yofel, there is abstractgridtest_automoc.cpp.files
[09:58] <smartboyhw> In obj_x86-64_linux_gnu/tests
[10:01] <smartboyhw> Weird korundum: It gives an orange light, but the buildlog for i386 doesn't give anything (symbols or lintian or --list-missing)
[10:01] <yofel> ok, broken in master too :S
[10:01] <smartboyhw> yofel, :S
[10:01] <yofel> smartboyhw: it's yellow because there's no lintian log
[10:02] <smartboyhw> yofel, ah
[10:02] <yofel> not sure what to do with that
[10:02] <yofel> I mean, I could mark it green and not care... but...
[10:02] <yofel> feels wrong somehow
[10:02] <yofel> but like this it's forever yellow
[10:03] <smartboyhw> yofel, LOL
[10:03] <smartboyhw> yofel, BTW perlkde so many E: lintian warnings
[10:03] <smartboyhw> E: libkdeedu source: malformed-override Override of dbg-package-missing-depends for kdeedu (expecting libkdeedu) at line 1
[10:03] <smartboyhw> :O
[10:04] <yofel> yeah, nobody fixed that one. leave it
[10:04] <yofel> no unnecessary changes for SRU's please
[10:04] <smartboyhw> yofel, alright
[10:05] <smartboyhw> yofel, from what I'm seeing here, kdesdk and knetwalk is the only packages having serious problems.
[10:05] <smartboyhw> Others are OK.
[10:05] <yofel> kdenetwork fixed?
[10:05] <yofel> and kdeplasma-addons
[10:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, these are the other problems. How did kdeplasma-addons fail?
[10:06] <yofel> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.
[10:06] <yofel> dpkg-source: info: if patch '0001-use-KRandom-avoid-modulo-bias.patch' is correctly applied by quilt, use 'quilt refresh' to update it
[10:06] <smartboyhw> Build interrupted wasn't clear enough:P
[10:07] <yofel> upstream patch, drop it
[10:07] <yofel> or wait, I'll do it
[10:07] <yofel> I have the package here anyway
[10:07] <smartboyhw> yofel, alright then
[10:07] <smartboyhw> kdenetwork?
[10:07] <yofel> needs to be dfsg-ified
[10:07] <yofel> the diff is huge so I lost motivation to look at it :P
[10:07] <smartboyhw> ~dfsg or +dfsg?
[10:07] <smartboyhw> yofel, LOL LOL LOL LOL
[10:07] <yofel> +dfsg
[10:07] <smartboyhw> yofel, gimme the package;P
[10:08] <yofel> it's the whole merge-split-repositories thing
[10:08] <smartboyhw> Uh
[10:08] <yofel> smartboyhw: pull-lp-source kdenetwork, then pull original 4.10.4, compare, pull 4.10.5, apply diff
[10:08] <yofel> tar up the new thing and package it
[10:09] <smartboyhw> yofel, you mean compare 4.10.4 with original or with 4.10.5
[10:09] <smartboyhw> ?
[10:10] <yofel> original and apply diff to vanilla 4.10.5
[10:10] <yofel> don't forget to quilt pop all patches first
[10:10] <yofel> kdeplasma-addons up
[10:10]  * smartboyhw rather likes uupdate though
[10:10] <yofel> well, that'll put the debian dir into 4.10.5
[10:11] <yofel> you first need to re-tar 4.10.5 after removing those skype icons
[10:11] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh hell, skype icons:(
[10:11] <smartboyhw> yofel, how to generate diff?
[10:12] <yofel> diff -ruN 4.10.4 4.10.4+dfsg
[10:12] <yofel> or something like that
[10:17] <smartboyhw> yofel, you mean http://paste.kde.org/785756/ ? (the one with 4.10.5 is the pull-lp-source one, the one without is the original)
[10:18] <smartboyhw> I think I forgotten to quilt pop though
[10:19] <yofel> quilt pop, and remove the debian folder
[10:19] <yofel> s/remove/move/
[10:19] <kubotu> yofel meant: "quilt pop, and move the debian folder"
[10:19] <smartboyhw> yofel, damn I removed it already
[10:19] <smartboyhw> ....
[10:19] <yofel> well, pull again later ^^
[10:20]  * yofel doesn't get what's wrong with that test...
[10:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, anyways, move it to where?
[10:20] <yofel> somewhere else? tmp?
[10:21] <apachelogger> "Clementine reads tags in a separate clementine-tagreader process so that bugs like this don't crash Clementine completely."
[10:21] <yofel>   Your libPCRE is too old.  KJS requires at least PCRE4.5
[10:21] <yofel> what?
[10:21] <smartboyhw> yofel, you mean move not copy right?
[10:21] <yofel> smartboyhw: move, otherwise it'll still be in the diff
[10:22]  * apachelogger thinks rekonq should put its UI in a different process so that bugs don't crash the UI completely
[10:22] <yofel> true
[10:23] <apachelogger> oh btw, qt5 failed because of bashism
[10:23] <smartboyhw> yofel, eh? The remaining ones are then the .pc files...
[10:23] <apachelogger> trying to fix now
[10:23] <yofel> smartboyhw: huh? that shouldn't be the case
[10:24] <smartboyhw> yofel, what's the case then?
[10:24] <smartboyhw> .....
[10:25] <yofel> smartboyhw: this is wha you should see: http://paste.kde.org/785768
[10:25] <smartboyhw> yofel, the problem is: When I pull-lp-source I don't get +dfsg.
[10:25] <smartboyhw> ...
[10:26] <yofel> what *do* you get?
[10:26] <smartboyhw> yofel, 4.10.4
[10:26] <smartboyhw> With debian inside.
[10:26] <smartboyhw> 4.10.4-0ubuntu1
[10:26] <yofel> erk, that's the leftover package from the merge
[10:26] <yofel> pull-lp-source kdenetwork raring-proposed
[10:26] <smartboyhw> yofel, MEH
[10:27] <yofel> someone needs to request removal of kdenetwork and kdeadmin sources in saucy
[10:27] <smartboyhw> yofel, does that only involve a bug?
[10:27] <smartboyhw> reporting?
[10:27] <yofel> afaik yes, and subscribing ubuntu-archive
[10:28] <smartboyhw> yofel, is there a template?
[10:28] <yofel> just look for a similar report
[10:28] <yofel> usually it's something like "Please remove source X from saucy" with explenation why
[10:29] <yofel> possibly check what binaries are 4.10.4-only. Those should be removed too
[10:29] <yofel> oh, kdesdk and kdetoys probably need to be removed too
[10:30] <smartboyhw> yofel, got the diff you have now.
[10:32] <yofel> *sigh*
[10:32] <yofel> clang is broken in saucy
[10:32] <smartboyhw> yofel, :(
[10:37] <smartboyhw> yofel, um it takes a long time to compare which binary in kdesdk doesn't exist anymore:P
[10:37] <yofel> well, showsrc will tell you what binaries there are, after that just check with policy what's there and what not
[10:38] <smartboyhw> yofel, policy?
[10:38] <yofel> apt-cache
[10:38] <yofel> just leave that for later and finish kdenetwork first
[10:39] <smartboyhw> yofel, so I patch in the diff to 4.10.5 using patch -p1 ?
[10:40] <yofel> that won't work for the binary diff I think, you'll have to manually delete the files
[10:40] <yofel> or that's what I did
[10:40] <smartboyhw> yofel, alright
[10:40] <yofel> if someone knows a better way I'm open for suggestions
[10:42] <smartboyhw> yofel, do you have to change the CMakeLists.txt in the icons folder too?
[10:42]  * smartboyhw moves in the debian folder
[10:42] <yofel> uh, is that in the diff?
[10:43] <smartboyhw> yofel, no.
[10:43] <yofel> then no
[10:43] <smartboyhw> yofel, hmm the structure for 4.10.5's kdenetwork changed a lot
[10:43] <smartboyhw> cmake and doc directory doesn't exist anymore
[10:43] <yofel> as I said, it's the merge-all-split-repos-into-one-blog thing
[10:44] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah:P
[10:44] <yofel> *blob
[10:50] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh god, the patches need updating then...
[10:50] <yofel> yeah, have fun ;)
[10:51] <smartboyhw> yofel, how to remove an empty patch?
[10:51] <yofel> what's an empty patch?
[10:51] <smartboyhw> yofel, um, like it doesn't apply to anything
[10:51] <smartboyhw> Just don't push to that patch and remove it directly?
[10:52] <yofel> yeah, remove it from series, which one is it?
[10:52] <smartboyhw> yofel, kubuntu_05_samba_install.diff (due to wrong directory)
[10:52] <smartboyhw> That blob thing:P
[10:53] <yofel> fix the directory name?
[10:53] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah, that might be better:P
[10:57] <yofel> meh, actually *building* the knetwalk test would help I guess
[11:01] <smartboyhw> yofel, hmm, I can't get the patch working, it just can't refresh
[11:01] <smartboyhw> not even when I recreated the patch from scratch
[11:01] <yofel> let me please finally finish knetwalk, then I'll look at it
[11:02] <smartboyhw> yofel, :)
[11:02] <smartboyhw> Anyways, I'm off to dinner.
[11:17] <soee> good morning
[11:23] <tester56> one question: why are we using the old network manager plasmoid in saucy kde 4.11?
[11:24] <tester56> the new one is more flexible
[11:24] <yofel> is the new one already released?
[11:25] <yofel> 0.9.0.9 was the last thing I saw lamarque posting for public
[11:25] <yofel> (not that the new one isn't great)
[11:27] <tester56> it has been in kde master for a longer period of time (tried with project neon)
[11:29] <tester56> give me a sec. i am searching for the link ...
[11:33] <yofel> yeah, it works great in neon, but for archive packaging I would prefer somehing that lamarque stamps a version on
[11:34] <tester56> i can't find the website where it was described :-(
[11:35] <tester56> but when it is already merged in master why isn't it part of the betas?
[11:35] <yofel> http://grulja.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/plasma-nm-after-the-solid-sprint/ ?
[11:35] <yofel> it's not part of the beta's because it's not part of the KDE SC, it's in extragear
[11:36] <tester56> that's a pretty old state 
[11:37] <yofel> http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.de/2013/06/im-going-to-akademy-2013.html is the last news I know of
[11:38] <tester56> so it doesn't look like it will land in saucy?
[11:39] <yofel> well, akademy is in 2 weeks, feature freeze in 2 months, so as long as we get some release to package it'll be in
[11:40] <tester56> hopefully it lands as I consider it a major improvement
[11:46] <tester56> another issue I noticed was, that in saucy appmenu-gtk does not work 
[11:47] <Peace-> guys 
[11:47] <Peace-> i have just installed another time kubuntu 13.04 
[11:47] <Peace-> and i got the silly bug unmanaged  on network manager
[11:47] <Peace-> wtf always the same 
[11:48] <Peace-> sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[11:48] <Peace-> put true instead of false 
[11:48] <Peace-> restarted network manager service => fixed
[12:56] <smartboyhw> yofel, you can help me with knetwork now?
[12:58] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion rekonq 2.3.2
[12:58] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1196237
[12:59] <smartboyhw> ^ ahoneybun should try out this, it's simplier:P
[13:00] <yofel> smartboyhw: we're getting guests here shortly, so only if it's quick
[13:00] <yofel> ah right, the patch
[13:00] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah. The patch.
[13:00] <smartboyhw> I recreated it and it still says it's empty and I can't refresh
[13:01] <yofel> hm, it works fine if I do it the quick and dirty way
[13:01] <smartboyhw> yofel, hmm it doesn't for me.
[13:01] <yofel> i.e. s/filesharing/kdentwork-filesharing/ in the file paths in the patch
[13:02] <yofel> smartboyhw: here's what I have now: http://paste.kde.org/785834
[13:06] <yofel> hm, digikam is still building on Scott's arm machine (61%). I think I'm already past the failure
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:09] <smartboyhw> yofel, I'm giving up, quilt really keeps complaining.
[13:09] <yofel> smartboyhw: just try with mine?
[13:10] <smartboyhw> yofel, it just says nothing in there.
[13:10] <smartboyhw> Even with I stuffed things using your patch
[13:11] <yofel> that can't be...
[13:11] <smartboyhw> yofel, and actually, kdeplasma-addons failed to build, so I may go and fix that.
[13:13] <yofel> cp: cannot stat 'debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_kdeobservatory.so': No such file or directory
[13:13] <yofel> fun
[13:13] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah, extra files...
[13:14] <yofel> no, MISSING fiels
[13:14] <yofel> *files
[13:14] <yofel> please check what happened, that shouldn't happen
[13:15] <smartboyhw> yofel, OK.
[13:21] <smartboyhw> yofel, it failed for me even earlier, I can't pass through the build itself.
[13:22] <yofel> hm, that I haven't tried
[13:22] <yofel> anyway, I'm off
[13:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, .........
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Linking CXX shared module ../../lib/plasma_wallpaper_weather.so
[13:22] <smartboyhw> cd wallpapers/weather && /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/link.txt --verbose=1
[13:22] <smartboyhw> /usr/bin/c++  -fPIC -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wformat-security -fno-exceptions -DQT_NO_EXCEPTIONS -fno-check-new -fno-common -Woverloaded-virtual -fno-threadsafe-statics -fvisibility=hidden -Werror=return-type -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_DEB
[13:22] <smartboyhw> UG -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--fatal-warnings -Wl,--no-undefined -lc  -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--no-undefined -shared -Wl,-soname,plasma_wallpaper_weather.so -o ../../lib/plasma_wallpaper_weather.so CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/plasma_wallpaper_weather_automoc.o CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/weatherwallpaper.o CMakeFiles/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/backgrounddelegate.o CMakeFil
[13:22] <smartboyhw> es/plasma_wallpaper_weather.dir/backgroundlistmodel.o /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3.0.0 /usr/lib/libkio.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/libkfile.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libknewstuff3.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4.11.0 ../../lib/libplasmaweather.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libplasma.so.3.0.0 /usr/lib/libknewstuff3.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libthreadweaver.so.4.11.0 /usr/lib/libkio.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtNetwork.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Xml.so /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5.11.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtSvg.so -Wl,-rpath,/home/smartboyhw/4.10.5/kdeplasma-addons-4.10.5/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/lib: 
[13:23] <smartboyhw> ../../../wallpapers/marble/marble.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void Marble::MarbleWallpaper::paint(QPainter*, const QRectF&)’:
[13:23] <smartboyhw> ../../../wallpapers/marble/marble.cpp:202:64: error: no matching function for call to ‘Marble::GeoPainter::GeoPainter(
[13:23] <smartboyhw> Oops
[13:23]  * smartboyhw has copied the link but...
[13:23] <smartboyhw> http://paste.kde.org/785840/http://paste.kde.org/785840/
[13:23] <smartboyhw> WHAT HAPPENED WITH MY KEYBOARD!?!?!?!?
[13:23]  * smartboyhw thinks he should really rather go rekonq packaging:(
[13:33] <smartboyhw> And maybe file the removal bugs.
[13:42] <smartboyhw> Bug 1196245
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Someone review rekonq: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/rekonq_2.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc
[14:32] <smartboyhw> And libkfbapi: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/libkfbapi_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[14:46]  * smartboyhw is starting to think his KDE SC 4.10.5 packaging failure is due to him not in raring.
[15:10] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: can I get a ec2?
[15:11] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, no. I have NO access to EC2, I'm not yet a full Kubuntu developer.
[15:11] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, which package do you want to work on?:)
[15:11] <ahoneybun> I must want for Riddell then
[15:11] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: rekonq like you said
[15:11] <ahoneybun> maybe? ;)
[15:11] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, eh, I did it already:P
[15:11]  * smartboyhw hides
[15:11] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:11] <ahoneybun> thats ok
[15:12] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, sorry.
[15:12] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: I said it was ok lol
[15:12] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, I know:)
[15:13] <ahoneybun> yep
[15:15] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, do you want to try tomahawk or nootka or plasma-widget-quickaccess?
[15:15] <smartboyhw> :P
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Or you want to try 4.10.5 packaging fixing? (Sadly you're not in ~kubuntu-ninjas, Riddell should add you in...)
[15:16] <smartboyhw> And he quit.
[15:17] <smartboyhw> I think I scared him away:P
[15:17] <ahoneybun> no
[15:17] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, no for what?
[15:17] <ahoneybun> did not scare me
[15:17] <ahoneybun>  lol
[15:17] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:17] <ahoneybun> my wifi jumped
 ahoneybun, do you want to try tomahawk or nootka or plasma-widget-quickaccess?
 :P
 Or you want to try 4.10.5 packaging fixing? (Sadly you're not in ~kubuntu-ninjas, Riddell should add you in...)
[15:17] <smartboyhw> ^ ahoneybun select :P
[15:18] <smartboyhw> How's docs BTW?
[15:18] <ahoneybun> I think pretty good
[15:18] <ahoneybun> if not great
[15:18] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: do you have a trello?
[15:18] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, I do have a trello.
[15:19] <smartboyhw> I'm in the Kubuntu organization of trello. duh:P
[15:19] <ahoneybun> lol
[15:19] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs
[15:21] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, looks nice:)
[15:22] <ahoneybun> thanks
[15:22] <yofel> ahoneybun: if you need somewhere to work in: "ssh -p 2224 yofel.dyndns.org"
[15:23]  * smartboyhw sshs into yofel's site;P
[15:23] <yofel> you can't yet, I'll add you
[15:23] <ahoneybun> lol
[15:23] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:24] <yofel> now
[15:24]  * smartboyhw wonders why yofel didn't add him:P
[15:28] <yofel> smartboyhw: can you get in?
[15:29] <smartboyhw> yofel, NO>
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Permission denied (publickey) again.
[15:30] <yofel> hm... I added smartboyhw@smartboyhw-Compaq-Presario-CQ41-Notebook-PC
[15:30] <smartboyhw> yofel, is it from my LP page?
[15:30] <yofel> yes
[15:30] <smartboyhw> yofel, uh:(
[15:31] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/simon_0.4.1-0ubuntu1.dsc (for simon)
[15:31] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/rekonq_2.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc (for rekonq)
[15:31] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/libkfbapi_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc (for libkfbapi)
[15:32] <smartboyhw> REVIEWERS PLZ.
[15:33] <yofel> smartboyhw: can you pastebin ssh -vvv or so please?
[15:33] <yofel> argh
[15:33] <yofel> ssh -p 2224 ubuntu@yofel.dyndns.org
[15:33] <yofel> my fault
[15:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, ah
[15:34] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah, it works
[15:35] <yofel> ok, use it if you need it. That's an LXC chroot so you can't cause any damage
[15:35] <smartboyhw> yofel, great.
[15:35]  * smartboyhw doesn't have any use now actually though
[16:01] <Quintasan> yofel: wrt my facebook post
[16:01] <Quintasan> this is an ongoing joke on my year
[16:01] <Quintasan> You know the book "Thinking in Java"?
[16:01] <yofel> didn't read it, but I know of it
[16:02] <Quintasan> so the prof who gives the lecture (I rarely attend that though) has this peculiar way of pronoucing "th"
[16:02] <Quintasan> "this" sounds like "zis" etc
[16:02] <Quintasan> And he tried to say the title of the book
[16:02] <Quintasan> and it ended up as "Sinking in Java"
[16:03] <yofel> hehehe
[16:03] <Quintasan> That would be kind of funny once
[16:03] <Quintasan> but then someone went ahead and made this
[16:03] <Quintasan> http://pwr.quintasan.pl/sinking.jpg
[16:04] <yofel> rofl
[16:04] <Quintasan> What's worse we are actually sinking here
[16:04] <Quintasan> He didn't pass the half of the year on the first exam and now we have to retake it
[16:05] <yofel> I could actually do a similiar picture except for the sinking part here, because the defacto standard literature here in germany is "Java is also only an isle" from galileo computing
[16:05] <smartboyhw> yofel, how does one get the beautiful lxc screen on your server? I can't find the way it seems:P
[16:05] <Quintasan> yofel: LOL
[16:06] <yofel> smartboyhw: the bottom part is byobu with tmux backend
[16:06] <Quintasan> tmux++
[16:06] <yofel> the prompt is http://paste.kde.org/785894/ in .bashrc
[16:07] <smartboyhw> yofel, the lxc-server it runs on the ubuntu template or the ubuntu-cloud template?
[16:07] <yofel> that's the default ubuntu template with a few extra packages that I installed later
[16:08]  * smartboyhw is installing byobu in his own lxc
[16:08] <yofel> ssh + byobu = win
[16:11] <smartboyhw> yofel, LOL
[16:31]  * yofel wonders what nvidia developer had the idea to interpret 0% brightness literally
[16:31] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:32] <yofel> when I go completely down, the display stays on, but the backlight shuts off
[16:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: there was a discussion / patch somewhere to not do that in KDE
[16:32] <shadeslayer> i.e you could only take down the brightness to 1% ?
[16:32] <shadeslayer> or some respectable amount
[16:33] <yofel> heh
[16:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/?p=203#.UdBLMKa9LCR
[16:35] <shadeslayer> something I never thought about ^^
[16:37]  * yofel did some boinc calculations for SETI a few years ago ^^
[18:50] <ScottK> shadeslayer doesn't read enough science fiction then.  It's not a rare question in the genre.
[19:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I was too pre occupied with finding the answer to the question "How do we *get* to a hypothetical habitable planet 1 light year away" 
[19:17] <shadeslayer> need FTL drives ... also raises the question how do we communicate once we reach said plannet
[19:17] <shadeslayer> *planet
[19:17] <shadeslayer> need FTL communications
[19:28] <ScottK> That or generation ships.
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Generation ships seem like a short term solution
[19:30] <shadeslayer> plus, messy
[19:31] <shadeslayer> what if by the time a generation ship reaches said planet, we've figured out FTL travel
[19:31] <shadeslayer> same issue with things like cryogenics
[19:32] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://www.sfwriter.com/stshould.htm
[19:32] <shadeslayer> I really really like that story ^^
[19:39] <ScottK> Good story.  That theme is repeated as well.  Of course generally when the generation ship leaves, FTL travel is thought to be impossible.  If you never leave assuming that'll get worked out, if you're wrong, you never leave.
[19:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: true, you have to make a start somewhere
[20:19] <lordievader> Good evening.
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