[10:13] <checkin> hi
[10:13] <checkin> I am unable to toggle wireless on/off, mute/unmute, play/pause using Front operation panel LED keys on my Toshiba Qosmio F60. Currently I need to enable WiFi/Bluetooth from Windows for it to work. Fn+F8 toggle works as soft block/unblock only if I have already enabled WiFi under Windows. Any ideas as how this can be done? I have tried Ubuntu 13.04 as well. The only LED Touch button that works under Ubuntu is the Volume Up/Down but
[11:48] <Friberg_> anyone had trouble with amd radeon hd 7970 today? when logging in i just get "report problem" and then its stuck
[11:48] <Friberg_> background on all screens, but nothing more
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:12] <penguin42> hey
[13:18] <FernandoMiguel> hey guys
[13:19] <FernandoMiguel> kernel 3.10.* has lousy power management. not the great for this warm weather
[13:24] <BluesKaj> yup , I get the message every bootup .power management isn't properly installed , FernandoMiguel
[13:25] <FernandoMiguel> I'm rebooting into 3.0.7
[13:25] <penguin42> huh - not seeing anything like that
[13:29] <BluesKaj> I get a dualog at the top of the screen just before the desktop loads and right after the splash screen , just before  yakuake notice
[13:29] <BluesKaj> dialog rather
[13:29] <penguin42> nope, not seeing it
[13:30] <BluesKaj> well ,not a dialog , it;s anotification ,
[13:30] <FernandoMiguel> ahh much better
[13:30] <FernandoMiguel> Linux Bostro 3.9.0-7-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 21 12:22:17 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:31] <penguin42> 3.10.0-1-generic #8-Ubuntu apparently fine
[13:32] <BluesKaj> ok brb
[13:32] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: not here...
[13:32] <FernandoMiguel> cpu goes crazy, to the max
[13:32] <FernandoMiguel> only schedulers are performance and powersave
[13:33] <FernandoMiguel> changing it doesn't matter....
[13:33] <FernandoMiguel> on 3.9 I have conservative and OnDemand
[13:35] <penguin42> curious because in the /boot/config-3.9.-0-7-generic the CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_CONSERVATIVE is not set
[13:35] <penguin42> oh hang on
[13:35] <FernandoMiguel> AFAIK it boots as Perfomence and then it's changed to OnDemand
[13:35] <penguin42> # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_CONSERVATIVE is not set    but CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE=y
[13:35] <FernandoMiguel> after all X parts are loaded
[13:36] <alankila> someone should really redesign the ondemand thing. I often have problems with ondemand lowering the CPU clock lower until there isn't enough clock cycles to handle it, and then stuff starts glitching
[13:36] <penguin42> that seems same in 3.10 config file
[13:36] <FernandoMiguel> alankila: nothing like there here
[13:36] <FernandoMiguel> I just have LOTS of heat coming out of it
[13:36] <FernandoMiguel> combined with unity-panel-service dieing
[13:37] <FernandoMiguel> and using 100% CPU
[13:37] <penguin42> cpus 27-30c here - so not too bad, a little higher than normal
[13:37] <alankila> for instance some audio and video programs have a habit of stuttering because ondemand simply tends to lower clock until there aren't free cycles at least in the default setting. Perhaps it doesn't have a good theory about whether the new clock it proposes is sufficient to still handle the load.
[13:37] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Is that your actual problem - ups using 100% cpu so it's keeping it high?
[13:37] <FernandoMiguel> I kill it every few minutes
[13:38] <FernandoMiguel> when the Fans ramp up
[13:38]  * penguin42 pats kde
[13:38] <FernandoMiguel> I have a 3rd gen Intel i5
[13:38] <alankila> the "conservative" governor works better for those use cases, but haven't investigated why
[13:38] <FernandoMiguel> alankila: yeah, I use conservative too
[13:38] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: i7-860 here
[23:11] <jonathonf> so much activity, it's scary
[23:20] <BluesKaj> heh
[23:24] <jonathonf> mind you , i've not been on here myself for months