[00:26] <bjsnider> it will be ready in a few years
[00:26] <bjsnider> that's what people have been saying for more than a few years
[00:27] <IdleOne> Keep on saying it and one they it will be right
[00:27] <IdleOne> :)
[02:05] <roasted> darkxst: good deal! Ubuntu GNOME in particular made me super curious since I would think Gnome wuold largely be Wayland, but Ubuntu GNOME... there's more of a balance there between the two.
[02:06] <roasted> on the upside, I believe Mir lit a fire under Wayland's tail to get development going. Seems to be going nicely on both fronts now.
[03:22] <roasted> also, in Ubuntu GNOME, I mentioned earliet aht I could not set my away status/availability under the menu in the upper right.
[03:22] <roasted> Someone said they scrolled over it and it worked.
[03:22] <roasted> Which works for me but I cannot CLICK To get the drop down like I used to.
[03:22] <roasted> Not sure if it's a bug or if my particular install is just weird.
[03:31] <bjsnider> third possibility: it is a deliberate choice by the gnome developers
[03:32] <roasted> could be
[03:32] <roasted> not sure it makes much sense though
[03:33] <roasted> then again some choices Gnome has made hasn't made much sense, so... :P
[03:33] <bjsnider> here's what you can do
[03:33] <bjsnider> head on over to gimpnet
[03:33] <bjsnider> go to the gnome-shell channel. all of the developers are in there on a work day
[03:34] <bjsnider> and you just ask them, is what you do
[03:34] <bjsnider> owen has said before that if you can convince them of something, you can change things
[03:34] <roasted> I shall do that
[03:34] <bjsnider> it's not a good time now though
[03:34] <roasted> as it stands I still have to use the cups printing web interface since the gnome printing GUI is neutered
[03:35] <roasted> perhaps I should fir ethat out there too
[03:35]  * bjsnider enjoys sending angry people to gimpnet to complain and whatnot
[03:35] <atrus> anything special you need? i went through the gnome 3.8 printing ui the other day, and it worked much better than it used to. granted, that was on fedora 19.
[03:36] <roasted> atrus: I'll have to give it another shot when I'm done renovating my basement. Currently I have no printers on my LAN since they're stashed elsewhere.
[03:36] <roasted> but last I used Gnome with printing, it didn't pick up either printer.
[03:36] <roasted> It just makes no sense to cut out LPD and manual input capabilities for printers.
[03:36] <roasted> An advanced drop down menu would make far more sense.
[03:37] <roasted> Auto detection by default, or an advanced menu to put things in manually. Bam, winner.
[03:37] <bjsnider> works fine here but i only use epson printers
[03:38] <bjsnider> due to superior linux drivers
[03:38] <roasted> I have an epson printer...
[03:38] <roasted> and an HP laserjet.
[03:42] <bjsnider> you tried to set up an epson printer and it wasn't recognized?
[03:42] <bjsnider> hard to believe
[03:42] <roasted> neither was recognized
[03:42] <roasted> however, I didn't try it on 3.8
[03:43] <roasted> I only hopped on 3.8 about a week ago, and my basement remodel (where my office is) has been going on for a month.
[03:44] <bjsnider> it would have been recognized no matter what
[03:46] <roasted> Well, I didn't see either when I tried last.
[03:47] <bjsnider> check localhost:631
[03:47] <roasted> when I hooked it up via LPD in the CUPS web UI I got both working in no time.
[03:47] <roasted> but the auto detect in GNOME picked up nothing
[03:47] <roasted> tried it a dozen times.
[03:54] <roasted> I wish Gnome ran better on this nettop. AMD E450 just aint doing it.
[10:34] <Munchor> guys you should ask
[10:35] <Munchor> worldofgnome.org to share your need for alpha testers btw :)
[14:32] <roasted> bjsnider: Epson printer showed up right away this time. :D
[17:35] <furycd001> HI I have just installed ubuntu gnome & then gnome fallback session. How do I install & change themes that I have downloaded ??