| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 08:33 |
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| MartijnVdS | hi brobostigon | 08:33 |
| brobostigon | hi MartijnVdS | 08:34 |
| brobostigon | dr strangelove film4 11am. | 09:29 |
| MartijnVdS | but.. F1 on BBC One at 12:10 :) | 09:33 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:33 |
| brobostigon | thats the nice thing about living where i do, you can almost hear the cars down the road. | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | my windows are transparent again \o/ | 10:54 |
| MartijnVdS | IRL windows.. of my house | 10:55 |
| knightwise | MartijnVdS: been doing some housecleaning are we ? | 10:59 |
| SuperEngineer | vroom vroom coverage in 10 mins - receypoos in 1hr | 11:00 |
| bigcalm | Good afternoon peeps :) | 11:19 |
| brobostigon | afternoonings bigcalm | 11:19 |
| === Matthew is now known as Guest48612 | ||
| === Guest48612 is now known as SuperMatt | ||
| penguin42 | hmm, wonder when that happened - Grub wants (hd0,msdos2) rather than (hd0,2) now | 13:05 |
| directhex | penguin42, looks like a change in 2.00 final | 13:11 |
| directhex | penguin42, presumably to mandate the partition scheme, i.e. the msdos name = MBR partitioning | 13:11 |
| penguin42 | directhex: Interesting; I've got this 4 lines I copy from box to box to dual boot DOS on my dads machines and had to change it on the 12.04.2 install I just did for him | 13:12 |
| shauno | does anyone know what the relevant of putting a decimal after a digit in fortran is? eg, 3.*var, or 1.-var, etc | 13:12 |
| penguin42 | obscure question of the week award! | 13:12 |
| shauno | I know, lmgtfy etc, but google just ignores . as punctuation | 13:13 |
| penguin42 | shauno: http://www-classes.usc.edu/engr/ce/108/text/fbk01.htm | 13:14 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Doesn't qite help though | 13:14 |
| penguin42 | precision seems to be after not before | 13:14 |
| shauno | actually, it might .. I read that as it's casting it? so '3' is an int but "3." is a float | 13:15 |
| penguin42 | yeh that makes sense | 13:16 |
| penguin42 | hmm interestingly the same thing works in python 2/5. gives 0.4 as opposed to 2/5 gives 0 | 13:16 |
| penguin42 | that'll save me a few 0's :-) | 13:16 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Wth are you doing with fortran? debugging spec? | 13:17 |
| shauno | heh. that seems to be a theme in this code too. the comments run for miles, but the code is terse as hell | 13:17 |
| shauno | kinda, that's how the algorithm has been provided. (c) 1980 :/ | 13:19 |
| shauno | "These FORTRAN IV routines have been implemented on a Honeywell-6000 series computer. This machine has a processing speed in the 1MIPS range and a 36 bit floating point word providing 8 significant figures of accuracy in single precision." | 13:19 |
| penguin42 | oh god | 13:19 |
| shauno | the scariest version of "works for me" I've seen in a long time | 13:19 |
| penguin42 | shauno: http://www.flickr.com/photos/63085612@N00/111068688/ | 13:21 |
| shauno | what's the bets I could emulate it on a pi? | 13:21 |
| penguin42 | shauno: There is a link on the wikipedia page to an emulator | 13:21 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Although interfacing the tape drive and line printer could be challenging | 13:22 |
| shauno | I'd be surprised if simh doesn't do it | 13:22 |
| * penguin42 has done some 36bit machine emulation in the past - it's a real real pain | 13:22 | |
| shauno | but I should be able to pick through this. they're not using anything completely crazy, at least (apparently fortran has support for imaginary numbers) | 13:23 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Well so does C++ these days | 13:23 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Is that spec2k or 2k6 ? | 13:23 |
| penguin42 | couple of years since I've had to wrangle it | 13:24 |
| shauno | no idea :) just something I heard mentioned, and thought it sounded quite scary | 13:24 |
| penguin42 | nod | 13:24 |
| penguin42 | imaginary/complex numbers aren't that hard - it's just a pair of values in the end | 13:25 |
| === RadiumCat is now known as RoninCat | ||
| ali1234 | python has support for imaginary numbers also | 13:56 |
| ali1234 | http://docs.python.org/3/library/cmath.html | 13:57 |
| === RoninCat is now known as RadiumCat | ||
| === emma is now known as em | ||
| knightwise | hey everyone | 19:27 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 19:40 |
| brobostigon | evening bigcalm | 19:40 |
| popey | pip pip | 19:42 |
| bigcalm | Ah, life | 19:42 |
| bigcalm | Are we all well? | 19:42 |
| popey | Yes! | 19:43 |
| popey | hows you? | 19:43 |
| bigcalm | Older | 19:43 |
| popey | oh? | 19:43 |
| bigcalm | It's my birthday, don'tcha know? | 19:43 |
| zleap | happy birthday | 19:43 |
| bigcalm | Thanking you | 19:44 |
| popey | I did not know. | 19:44 |
| bigcalm | And now you know | 19:45 |
| knightwise | yooyo | 19:46 |
| popey | get ready | 19:46 |
| popey | __,,,__ | 19:46 |
| popey | ,-""-,-" "-,-""-, | 19:46 |
| popey | /,-' , .-'-.7.-'-. , '-,\ | 19:46 |
| popey | \( / _ _ \ )/ | 19:46 |
| popey | '-, { (0) (0) } ,-' | 19:46 |
| popey | / > .---. < \ | 19:46 |
| popey | |/ .-' \___/ '-. \| | 19:46 |
| popey | {, / ,_ _, \ ,} | 19:46 |
| popey | \ {, \ / ,} / | 19:46 |
| popey | ',\. '---' ./,' | 19:46 |
| popey | _.-""""""-._ _.-""""""-._ | 19:46 |
| popey | .' `._.` '. | 19:46 |
| popey | _/_ _ _ _ ___ ___ _ _ \ | 19:47 |
| popey | .'` `\ | | | / \ | \| \| | | \ | 19:47 |
| popey | / | | || ' || '_/| '_/\ / ; | 19:47 |
| popey | | / |_|_||_|_||_| |_| |_| | | 19:47 |
| popey | \ ;'---' ___ _ ___ ___ _ _ ; | 19:47 |
| popey | '. ; | . \| || \|_ _|| | | _ ; | 19:47 |
| popey | `-\ | < | || '_/ | | | | [].' `, | 19:47 |
| popey | `\ |_'_/|_||_\_\ |_| |_|_| | \ | 19:47 |
| popey | \ ___ _ _ _ \ | | 19:47 |
| popey | jgs `\ | \ / \ | | | /` _/ | 19:47 |
| popey | ,-""-. .'`\ | | || . |\ / /`-,-'` .-""-, | 19:47 |
| popey | / `\.' `\|___/ |_|_| |_|/` './` \ | 19:47 |
| popey | ; .--. \ '\ /' / .--. ; | 19:47 |
| popey | | ( \ |, '\ /' | / ) | | 19:47 |
| popey | \ ; } ;\ /; ` { ; / | 19:47 |
| popey | `;\ \ _.-' \ / `-._ / /;` | 19:47 |
| popey | \ \__.' _.-' Y `-._ '.__// | 19:47 |
| popey | '.___,.-' `-.,___.' | 19:47 |
| bigcalm | Oh my | 19:47 |
| bigcalm | Thank you! | 19:48 |
| * popey wants to play a game. | 19:50 | |
| bigcalm | How about a nice game of chess? | 19:53 |
| popey | ☻ | 19:53 |
| zleap | :) | 19:55 |
| * bigcalm drums fingers | 19:58 | |
| bigcalm | Wish Stealth Bastard Deluxe works properly on my laptop. Instead the keys are sending the wrong commands | 19:59 |
| knightwise | popey: is that a space invader ? | 19:59 |
| bigcalm | This happens on other games as well, like Psyconaughts | 19:59 |
| bigcalm | knightwise: you need to use a fixed width font with IRC | 20:00 |
| bigcalm | Who was it that was trying to run DropBox from a headless server? | 20:05 |
| mungbean | duuno, buts its straight forward | 20:05 |
| bigcalm | Yep: https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx | 20:05 |
| bigcalm | Maybe it's recent, but whom ever was asking before seemed to be using a lot of scripts and magic to get it working | 20:06 |
| shauno | first time I tried you had to install it on a desktop and then transplant the ~/.dropbox folder out once it had linked. last time I tried, it was all handled properly | 20:07 |
| DJones | bigcalm: It was me, I got it going fairly easily | 20:09 |
| DJones | bigcalm: That looks like the same instructions that I followed, just from a different website when I found it | 20:10 |
| bigcalm | DJones: oh, I thought the page you linked to was a lot more long winded | 20:11 |
| DJones | I think there probably a lot more waffle in the instructions | 20:11 |
| DJones | The only thing that looks different is that there isn't instructions to create a dropbox service on that page | 20:13 |
| bigcalm | I used the dropbox.py script | 20:15 |
| bigcalm | Just ran dropbox.py stop; dropbox.py start | 20:15 |
| bigcalm | Logged out, logged back in and it was still running as a service | 20:16 |
| DJones | Interesting, I might have a look at that in a bit more detail | 20:16 |
| shauno | it's more surviving reboots that takes some massaging | 20:16 |
| bigcalm | Well, running as a detached process | 20:16 |
| bigcalm | Ah, fair enough | 20:17 |
| bigcalm | I have supervisor running on my server, might use that to keep it alive | 20:17 |
| mungbean | is it ybynty or rehdat? | 20:19 |
| bigcalm | ? | 20:19 |
| mungbean | sorry baby typing | 20:19 |
| mungbean | ubuntu box or RH? | 20:20 |
| bigcalm | Your baby has skillz | 20:20 |
| bigcalm | Ubuntu 12.04 | 20:20 |
| mungbean | on RH there's a script and you have to add the user to .etc.sysysconfig/dropbix## | 20:20 |
| mungbean | argh | 20:20 |
| bigcalm | dropbix is the .za version :D | 20:20 |
| mungbean | its what my dog dreams of | 20:21 |
| bigcalm | Is there a best server selector for headless systems? | 20:34 |
| === SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt | ||
| diplo | Evening all | 20:47 |
| daftykins | heya | 20:47 |
| diplo | Paid off my credit card at last \o/ | 20:47 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 20:47 |
| daftykins | drinks are on you? ;) | 20:47 |
| bigcalm | Boooooooooooooz! | 20:47 |
| diplo | Well it could be next month! Be the first month with no extra than normal debt, only car tax to pay | 20:47 |
| diplo | Can maybe afford a holiday for me and the boys now | 20:48 |
| daftykins | :) | 20:49 |
| daftykins | mmm, just finished a couple of buttered hot crossed buns | 20:49 |
| diplo | How is everyone | 20:49 |
| diplo | yuk | 20:49 |
| diplo | :) | 20:49 |
| daftykins | :O they're amazing | 20:49 |
| daftykins | not bad ty, just downloading windows 8.1 public preview for a mooch | 20:49 |
| daftykins | and yourself? | 20:50 |
| hamitron | when should final release be out? | 20:50 |
| diplo | Not to bad thanks, been gardening on and off all weekend.. aching ( got issues as it is ) | 20:50 |
| diplo | I'm not a Win 8 lover, let me know your thoughts | 20:50 |
| diplo | Guy at work just got a win8 laptop, awful :( | 20:51 |
| * hamitron loves his win8 laptop | 20:51 | |
| daftykins | hamitron: not a clue, haven't really read much about it | 20:51 |
| diplo | You're the first person, including a lot of non techies that I've heard who likes it | 20:51 |
| daftykins | i'd only be happy with the start screen turned off \o/ | 20:51 |
| diplo | and everything running full screen, and looking rubbish when you put it in desktop mode | 20:52 |
| daftykins | diplo: i prefer to think nobody likes it ;) | 20:52 |
| diplo | That's the impression I get | 20:52 |
| hamitron | I'm using mine more like a tablet with a keyboard/stand | 20:52 |
| hamitron | probably only use the desktop 20% of the time | 20:53 |
| hamitron | looking forward to the smaller tiles you can have on the start screen | 20:54 |
| diplo | Any home AV people in here ? | 20:54 |
| hamitron | main complaint is finger marks on the screen | 20:54 |
| hamitron | :/ | 20:54 |
| daftykins | sounds like a lack of olephobic coating | 20:55 |
| shauno | that's always been my irk with touchscreens. in general, I want to maim anyone who puts fingers on my screen | 20:55 |
| daftykins | i know a lot of the important features, own a lovely Onkyo AV receiver and enjoy good quality, that's about it? | 20:55 |
| hamitron | shauno, yeh | 20:55 |
| shauno | it's not so bad with phones, and to some extent tablets, that you can easily give a quick shimmy on your shirt. bit awkward with a laptop | 20:55 |
| diplo | I'm not overly worried about sound, not one of these people that want crystal clear | 20:56 |
| hamitron | well, I can't see how anyone can use a tablet | 20:56 |
| hamitron | no keyboard to type stuff! | 20:56 |
| hamitron | :/ | 20:56 |
| zleap | hamitron, you can for short periods, no good for development or writing OU essays, i guess | 20:56 |
| diplo | Main thing i want is 4 hdmi in - 1 out, umm internet radio would be nice and a few other things like that | 20:56 |
| shauno | it works for tasks that are designed for it. mine spends most it's life as a pretty amazing xmbc remote, and as a newspaper | 20:57 |
| hamitron | and a laptop with a touch screen "stands up" and lets you use all fingers for the touch screen ;) | 20:57 |
| shauno | if you want to treat it as a laptop, get a laptop :) | 20:57 |
| hamitron | shauno, I did | 20:57 |
| hamitron | hehe | 20:57 |
| hamitron | well, a little laptop | 20:58 |
| hamitron | tbh, I wanted a surface pro, but the cost is just insane | 20:58 |
| daftykins | diplo: my little onkyo AV receiver does that \o/ | 20:58 |
| diplo | What model ? | 20:58 |
| diplo | Going to pop to Richer Sounds I reckon, get a looksy at them as well then | 20:59 |
| daftykins | basically story goes that Best Buy UK was closing down, i found this one cheap on their site and quickly ordered after a mate linked | 20:59 |
| daftykins | didn't even know the UK had Best Buy O_O | 20:59 |
| daftykins | it's a TX-NR509 | 20:59 |
| diplo | ta | 20:59 |
| daftykins | it's low end, so it doesn't do scaling | 21:00 |
| daftykins | but it does 3D passthrough, ARC and all the good stuff | 21:00 |
| diplo | I'm not that fussed about all that, I'd like if it could play my mp3s over the network though :) | 21:00 |
| daftykins | yeah i've done that with mine | 21:01 |
| daftykins | i installed a UPnP server, simple little one atop my Windows file server and had it share to it | 21:01 |
| diplo | So, dnla compliant.. | 21:01 |
| daftykins | but it didn't do gapless playback due to the nature of UPnP | 21:01 |
| diplo | Does that mean it'll play music via it, what about video ? | 21:01 |
| daftykins | heh i try to avoid voodoo technologies :> | 21:01 |
| daftykins | nope no video support | 21:01 |
| diplo | bah | 21:02 |
| daftykins | i have an HTPC so i don't mind :) | 21:02 |
| diplo | So have I, was just hoping for a little more :) | 21:02 |
| daftykins | surely then you're just doubling up though? | 21:02 |
| diplo | HTPC can go in my room :) | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | The following command can be painful if sent to the wrong terminal: sudo shutdown -P now | 21:10 |
| bigcalm | All of my terminals look the same. Just killed my laptop | 21:10 |
| bigcalm | Maybe I should have the bash prompt highlight the machine name in a different colour for each machine | 21:11 |
| daftykins | maybe :) | 21:12 |
| bigcalm | At least I didn't do it on any of my servers | 21:12 |
| daftykins | meh, power back on ;) | 21:14 |
| diplo | http://www.richersounds.com/product/av-receivers/pioneer/vsx527/pion-vsx527-blk | 21:15 |
| diplo | Loks promising | 21:15 |
| diplo | looks* | 21:15 |
| daftykins | ugh 8.1 preview doesn't support local auth | 21:29 |
| daftykins | have to use ones' MS account | 21:29 |
| diplo | They want to monitor you! | 21:32 |
| diplo | :P | 21:32 |
| daftykins | omg the whole thing is going ribbon menu style D: | 21:32 |
| daftykins | how disgusting | 21:32 |
| * diplo doesn't bother downloading | 21:37 | |
| mgdm | I got OUtlook 2011 for the Mac at work the other day, it has the ibbon thing, and it's completely out of place | 21:37 |
| daftykins | this is just in explorer to start with | 21:37 |
| daftykins | it doesn't have file, edit, view anymore =| | 21:38 |
| mgdm | eep | 21:38 |
| daftykins | so even when you know what you're doing you'll have to hunt for the feature =| | 21:38 |
| daftykins | ah yeah i look after a client with outlook for mac | 21:38 |
| daftykins | mgdm: worst part is it speaks another language than Windows Outlook, e.g. my client wanted to import LinkedIn contacts. fair enough, it spits out a .csv file. of course it only works with Windows' Outlook as-is | 21:39 |
| mgdm | Yeah, i get that with Mac Excel outputting stupid line endings and such | 21:39 |
| mgdm | in my line of work I end up munging data formats quite a bit - CSV, JSON and the odd bit of XML | 21:40 |
| daftykins | ah right | 21:41 |
| mgdm | generally end up writing code to handle it instead :-) | 21:42 |
| daftykins | i did a test run, backed up her contacts then imported the csv as-was | 21:42 |
| daftykins | 2,050 of wrong added XD | 21:42 |
| daftykins | just converted them with Outlook on Windows to get the proper 'native fields' in the end :) | 21:42 |
| directhex | moop! | 21:43 |
| daftykins | hey directhex, how do? | 21:44 |
| directhex | tired and hungry | 21:44 |
| daftykins | you always did take such pleasantries literally ;) | 21:45 |
| Laney | prettttttttty pretty good | 21:45 |
| * mgdm does too | 21:45 | |
| directhex | also, i'm out of rum | 21:47 |
| * mgdm is not | 21:47 | |
| daftykins | i need to get me some of the 80% Stroh that's at my friends | 21:48 |
| mgdm | Bah, OWA is crap too | 21:48 |
| daftykins | i miss the crazy taste :< | 21:48 |
| daftykins | ugh now there are tickboxes on folders | 21:48 |
| daftykins | it's officially dumbing down | 21:49 |
| * mgdm checks tht today is the 30th | 21:56 | |
| daftykins | hrmm, a friend with a Linux server is interested in setting up a web-based system which he can manage file downloads to others via | 22:04 |
| daftykins | so basically achieve what an FTP server offers but with a web front-end - anyone have any ideas? | 22:05 |
| mgdm | there are some catastropically insecure ways to do that with Perl and PHP | 22:06 |
| mgdm | I don't really know any 'good' ways to do it | 22:06 |
| IRC-Cop | hi | 22:06 |
| daftykins | nothing pre-made then? | 22:06 |
| daftykins | sort of like a wordpress of file hosting XD | 22:06 |
| IRC-Cop | hi folks | 22:06 |
| daftykins | heya | 22:06 |
| daftykins | heya for the second time too | 22:07 |
| IRC-Cop | yall from the UK ? | 22:07 |
| daftykins | not everyone | 22:07 |
| daftykins | but some | 22:07 |
| IRC-Cop | are you? | 22:07 |
| daftykins | close... Channel Islands | 22:08 |
| IRC-Cop | aha | 22:08 |
| IRC-Cop | i got a questio | 22:08 |
| IRC-Cop | n. | 22:08 |
| daftykins | fire away, on one line preferably | 22:08 |
| IRC-Cop | is it true that all english women when they hit their 20s are ugly dogs, with big fat arses from the friday/saturday night kebab munching> | 22:09 |
| IRC-Cop | fuck off | 22:09 |
| directhex | ohio? odd behaviour for a yank | 22:10 |
| daftykins | probably :( | 22:10 |
| Catalystic | im scotish | 22:11 |
| daftykins | and can't spell your own nationality? how rare | 22:11 |
| AlanBell | hmm, tag team trolling still | 22:11 |
| Catalystic | ~its still in the uk right? | 22:11 |
| Catalystic | my lawyer invited me here | 22:11 |
| directhex | some kind of script kiddy botnet, then? | 22:12 |
| AlanBell | couple of idiots who were kicked from one channel and are now bouncing about looking for other places to annoy me it seems | 22:13 |
| directhex | hm, bskyb wins against microsoft over whether "skydrive" infringes on the sky tv trademarks | 22:13 |
| daftykins | AlanBell: ooh personal service | 22:14 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I am so lucky | 22:14 |
| daftykins | uh-oh, does that mean Microsoft will have to rename the product in the UK? | 22:14 |
| directhex | daftykins, either that or say "sod it" and pay a wodge of cash to rupert murdoch | 22:15 |
| daftykins | sad times | 22:15 |
| daftykins | i'd actually back MS over that one :( | 22:15 |
| directhex | me too | 22:16 |
| directhex | there are worse times where evil vs more evil has happened | 22:16 |
| directhex | e.g. the daily mail vs tv psychic sally morgan | 22:16 |
| daftykins | you know, sky charged local customers VAT for years without anyone noticing / being able to resolve it | 22:16 |
| daftykins | haha that chick that demanded an apology for defamation? | 22:16 |
| directhex | yeah | 22:17 |
| directhex | she won, remember. 6 figure sum. | 22:17 |
| daftykins | hey directhex you got much experience with laptop screen swaps? | 22:17 |
| directhex | none at all | 22:18 |
| directhex | that's outside my comfort zone | 22:18 |
| daftykins | i've had two that haven't worked quite right on this system now, no ebay sellers are intelligent enough to tell me what's going on :( | 22:18 |
| daftykins | aww you used to love hardware no? ;) | 22:18 |
| directhex | last time i was inside a laptop i borked it | 22:18 |
| daftykins | :O | 22:19 |
| daftykins | they are fickle wenches | 22:19 |
| daftykins | oh this guy actually wants it to be locked down image hosting/selling | 22:57 |
| daftykins | as he's a graphic designer | 22:57 |
| daftykins | any CMS' out there with auth'd download? :> | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | i expect they all have a plugin for it | 23:01 |
| daftykins | like a 'theme' almost? | 23:04 |
| ali1234 | well it's different in every CMS | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | in wordpress themes can do everything | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | and there's a plugin system too | 23:07 |
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