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| Mukondeleli | hi jmagunduni | 06:49 |
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| Kilos | morning all | 08:11 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 08:12 |
| Kilos | hows theblazehen ? | 08:13 |
| theblazehen | good and you? | 08:13 |
| Kilos | good ty | 08:14 |
| trender | yo yo | 09:40 |
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| === Guest67066 is now known as Spaceghost | ||
| inetpro | Kilos: and why you so quiet today? | 15:27 |
| inetpro | good afternoon | 15:27 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro no good head day but also trying to find how the tethering thing works | 15:28 |
| Kilos | hi neo31 and others | 15:28 |
| inetpro | eish | 15:29 |
| inetpro | sorry oom | 15:29 |
| Kilos | sis got a tab with no 3g so we trying to use my old nokia n900 i think it is | 15:29 |
| inetpro | tethering is really simple, all you need is a device that can do it | 15:30 |
| Kilos | dis die lewe maar nou ja | 15:30 |
| inetpro | time to get a cheap android phone man | 15:30 |
| Kilos | i find the wireless stuff on the fone but cant see tethering anywhere | 15:30 |
| Kilos | hopefully i get a wireless card for the pc tuesday if she goes out | 15:31 |
| Kilos | then will try tether the tablet and the pc | 15:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nee man | 15:31 |
| Kilos | wat nou | 15:32 |
| inetpro | you should get a 2nd hand 3g wireless router | 15:33 |
| inetpro | try | 15:33 |
| inetpro | many people must have upgraded already | 15:33 |
| inetpro | especially those with uncapped lite from MTN | 15:33 |
| inetpro | that was a 2 year contract with a modem for free | 15:34 |
| Kilos | if the old nokia can do wifi surely the tablet should see it and vice versa | 15:34 |
| inetpro | and a renewed contract includes another better router | 15:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nope | 15:35 |
| Kilos | oh | 15:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: those nokias were very dumb | 15:35 |
| inetpro | Kilos: unless it was one of those clever smartphones like the fly had | 15:36 |
| Kilos | i can get a wireless card for 250 then my pc can also do wireless | 15:36 |
| Kilos | oh no its old man | 15:36 |
| Kilos | first fones that opened with querty keypad i think | 15:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but here's what I'm saying, a 3g router can handle both cable and wireless | 15:37 |
| Kilos | ya but what about my pc then | 15:37 |
| inetpro | I mean a proper 3g router | 15:37 |
| inetpro | your pc can connect to it via cable | 15:38 |
| Kilos | oh | 15:38 |
| inetpro | you must get a decent 3g router that is like a switch | 15:38 |
| inetpro | and includes wireless | 15:38 |
| Kilos | i think i asked here before what they cost and someone said about 1k | 15:39 |
| inetpro | the new ones yes | 15:39 |
| Kilos | thats too much for sis to see her mail and get some books | 15:39 |
| inetpro | but hence me saying, we must try find someone who has renewed his contract and got a new one | 15:40 |
| Kilos | oh | 15:40 |
| inetpro | those things will keep working for many years | 15:40 |
| inetpro | the new ones are faster, but | 15:41 |
| inetpro | you really don't need faster | 15:41 |
| Kilos | no | 15:41 |
| inetpro | the faster it goes the more data it eats for breakfast | 15:41 |
| Kilos | hi adeebnqo | 15:41 |
| adeebnqo | hey | 15:41 |
| inetpro | hi adeebnqo | 15:42 |
| adeebnqo | lol this feels like that awkward moment when yu enter a room and everyone is lookin' at u | 15:43 |
| Kilos | hehe welcome to ubuntu-za | 15:43 |
| Kilos | this is the za community linux/ubuntu help channel | 15:44 |
| Kilos | if you need help just state what the prob is | 15:44 |
| * inetpro turning around to look at adeebnqo again | 15:44 | |
| Kilos | lol | 15:44 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: you've come to the right place, I think | 15:46 |
| Kilos | so inetpro how come fone and tablet dont see each other? is wifi wifi | 15:47 |
| Kilos | ot they talk different languages | 15:47 |
| adeebnqo | :) I come here once in a while -- I must say, this is the first time I've seen any activity | 15:47 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 15:47 |
| Kilos | hehe adeebnqo the guys all work. and help when they have time | 15:48 |
| Kilos | but im here most of the time for basic stuffs | 15:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: well you always need one network resource to act as a wifi access point | 15:50 |
| inetpro | and access point is tyocally called a hotspot | 15:50 |
| inetpro | typically | 15:51 |
| Kilos | so if i put an adapter in pc it can be a hotspot for her | 15:51 |
| Kilos | all modern software is already in ubuntu surely | 15:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: if you get the right adapter I guess yes | 15:52 |
| Kilos | uh oh | 15:52 |
| Kilos | are they like graphics cards | 15:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I've never used an adapter directly like that but I'm guessing there should be adapters that you can plug into your usb port | 15:54 |
| Kilos | ya and the one im after goes in pci socket | 15:54 |
| Kilos | with little aerial outside | 15:55 |
| inetpro | Kilos: where do you find that? | 15:55 |
| Kilos | you lappy peeps forget desktops got lotsa place for adapters | 15:55 |
| adeebnqo | Kilos : since you're here now. I have a problem, I'm trying to install "af" for appfrog --- I'm behind a proxy. The cmd `sudo gem install -p http:localhost:3128 af` spits out the ff error : http://pastebay.net/1244447 | 15:56 |
| Kilos | the pc shop off van der hoff | 15:56 |
| adeebnqo | I also ran across this https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/issues/557 , any ideas? | 15:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you have a model name/number ? | 15:56 |
| adeebnqo | I should mention, I use cntlm | 15:56 |
| Kilos | nope inetpro | 15:57 |
| Kilos | adeebnqo, hang here one of the knowledgable guys will help when they get a chance | 15:58 |
| Kilos | adeebnqo, is that in the repos? | 15:58 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: what is af? | 15:59 |
| Kilos | oh wait | 16:00 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install gem | 16:01 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: try the following: | 16:01 |
| inetpro | export http_proxy=http://localhost:3128 | 16:01 |
| Kilos | gem is in the repos | 16:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I think he has gem installed already | 16:02 |
| Kilos | sudo gem install -p dont that need apt-get or aptitude | 16:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 16:04 |
| Kilos | oh my | 16:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: a gem is a packaged Ruby application or library | 16:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: a gem is a packaged Ruby application or library | 16:06 |
| Kilos | i see gem in synaptic so thought it would need an apt command from cli | 16:06 |
| Kilos | Gem is a loadable library for puredata, which adds OpenGL graphics rendering | 16:06 |
| Kilos | and animation to Pd. Pd is a graphical programming language and computer | 16:06 |
| Kilos | music system. | 16:06 |
| Kilos | why you repeated that inetpro ? | 16:07 |
| inetpro | oops... sorry for the duplicate | 16:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:07 |
| * inetpro 's internet is unstable all of a sudden | 16:07 | |
| Kilos | i thought you were trying to prove a point | 16:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:08 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide | 16:08 |
| Cantide | hello :) | 16:08 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 16:08 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: according to documentation the following syntax should work as well | 16:12 |
| inetpro | gem install --http-proxy http://COMPANY.PROXY.ADDRESS $gem_name | 16:12 |
| adeebnqo | tried that and it didnt work | 16:13 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: obviously you should have a working proxy at http://localhost listening on port 3128 with access to the internet | 16:16 |
| adeebnqo | I do, i give up. | 16:19 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: you're running on Ubuntu? | 16:22 |
| adeebnqo | Xubuntu | 16:22 |
| inetpro | why do you have your proxy on localhost? | 16:23 |
| adeebnqo | as opposed to do doin' what? | 16:25 |
| adeebnqo | I'm a bit confused by yur qn | 16:27 |
| inetpro | if you have a proxy on your local machine then why need a proxy at all? | 16:27 |
| inetpro | why are you behind a proxy? Surely if you're inside a company network you don't need a proxy server on localhost | 16:30 |
| adeebnqo | oh no, I use cntlm. the real proxy configuration is in some file -- cntlm requires me to use localhost:3128 and it handles everything else | 16:31 |
| inetpro | ahh sounds interesting, so your cntlm is talking to a upstream proxy? | 16:33 |
| inetpro | s/upstream/parent/ | 16:34 |
| adeebnqo | yup -- I'm installing the gem manually now. guess I have to bare the burden of trying to satisfy dependecies myself | 16:35 |
| adeebnqo | the list isn;t that long : http://pastebay.net/1244458 | 16:39 |
| Kilos | stupid question wont synaptic or aptitude solve them auto matically the you configure it after? | 16:41 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: put the following line in a file /etc/apt/apt.conf | 16:42 |
| inetpro | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://localhost:3128"; | 16:42 |
| inetpro | then just use apt-get or aptitude for your installations | 16:43 |
| inetpro | or even synaptic for that matter | 16:44 |
| adeebnqo | :) I've already downloaded and installed a bunch of the gems -- I afraid what yu just suggested might work, I don't wanna do it. | 16:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:47 |
| adeebnqo | yu guys got github accounts? | 16:50 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 16:57 |
| Kilos | at times you gotta wait long for replies adeebnqo guys have families to sort as well | 16:57 |
| inetpro | adeebnqo: those dependencies look like normal packages and not like gems | 17:19 |
| adeebnqo | i'm a ruby noob:), i wouldnt know the diffrnc. I managed to install it though -- we up and running now | 17:20 |
| Kilos | well done | 17:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: looks like every 8ta user is trying to use as much data as possible tonight | 17:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:22 |
| Kilos | mine xpires end of next month | 17:22 |
| Kilos | my connection has been good today | 17:23 |
| inetpro | ek sukkel | 17:23 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:25 |
| Kilos | inetpro, did you read what 8ta replied to my queries | 17:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 17:37 |
| Kilos | they upgraded my tower to 10m and now gonna do a firmware upgrade to 30m to the tower | 17:38 |
| Kilos | TM-SOC <Tm-soc@8ta.com> mail and query why yours is so bad | 17:39 |
| Kilos | after my first mail things got better again | 17:39 |
| Kilos | that was after first mail | 17:40 |
| Kilos | Customer location:-25.7126, 28.04707. | 17:40 |
| Kilos | From CHR trace, customer is served with stable and strong signal from site (NER_Moot_Chickens), Cell ID=12574, RSCP -70, Ec/No -4, TP=3. | 17:40 |
| Kilos | Per description of problem that indicates a reference to previous incident 3382229, site has been upgraded, but there is iub limitation found on site (12mb). Site needs iub upgrade. | 17:40 |
| Kilos | then i asked is it a hardware upgrade needed and they replied | 17:41 |
| Kilos | This will be a firmware to the tower upgrade . | 17:41 |
| Kilos | Once this is done , feedback will be provided to you. | 17:41 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ^^ | 17:41 |
| Kilos | mine is lekker again | 17:42 |
| inetpro | Kilos: oh cool | 17:42 |
| Kilos | if you dont query they think you are happy with the connection | 17:43 |
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| inetpro | Kilos: it's just this evening | 17:56 |
| inetpro | other days I have been very stable | 17:56 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:56 |
| Kilos | but slow | 17:56 |
| inetpro | I just tweaked my antenna cable a bit, think it might have been a bit loose | 17:56 |
| Kilos | what antenna cable? | 17:57 |
| Kilos | you using an outside antenna | 17:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I have a high-gain antenna on the roof | 17:58 |
| Kilos | greta | 17:58 |
| Kilos | great as well | 17:58 |
| inetpro | without it my connection is just about useless | 17:58 |
| Kilos | actually telkom has some wifi hotspots up there | 17:59 |
| inetpro | up there? | 17:59 |
| Kilos | theresapark for one | 17:59 |
| Kilos | and im sure i saw more closer to the north | 18:00 |
| inetpro | those are all small little networks around the shops | 18:00 |
| Kilos | was lookinf where id have to look for one | 18:00 |
| inetpro | typically around McDonalds and such places | 18:00 |
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| Kilos | ya arent they faster than 3g anyway | 18:01 |
| Kilos | and you get free wifi everytime you top up | 18:01 |
| Kilos | mine is over 10 gig already | 18:01 |
| inetpro | depends what they connect to | 18:01 |
| Kilos | isnt telkom telkom | 18:01 |
| Kilos | i googled telkom wifi hotspots | 18:02 |
| Kilos | or will you still need to get a password from them park peeps | 18:02 |
| Kilos | adeebnqo, wb | 18:03 |
| Kilos | you must stay here. you sound clued up | 18:03 |
| adeebnqo | lol I'll do that | 18:03 |
| Kilos | not much work helping noobs ubuntu is getting too good | 18:04 |
| Kilos | where are you adeebnqo ? if i may ask | 18:04 |
| Kilos | we are spread all over | 18:04 |
| adeebnqo | rosebank | 18:04 |
| adeebnqo | ---cpt | 18:04 |
| Kilos | are there are lotsa guys there | 18:05 |
| Kilos | ah not are | 18:05 |
| adeebnqo | guys from uct are here -- so i'd say yes | 18:05 |
| Kilos | xubuntu comes with xchat as default hey | 18:06 |
| Kilos | there are more. the fly is there too | 18:06 |
| Kilos | he is our python expert | 18:07 |
| adeebnqo | pidgin is better -- sorta brings all my accounts together. facebook, mxit, etc | 18:07 |
| Kilos | lol i use pidgin as well but for other im peeps | 18:07 |
| Kilos | xchat here | 18:07 |
| Kilos | i get lost when everything is in pidgin | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hmm... peer got him | 18:09 |
| Kilos | yo Trixar_za | 18:19 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 18:23 |
| Kilos | hmm... clever peeps we got sisters tablet connected to my pc with a usb cable what do i do to see it? | 18:27 |
| Kilos | like how do i tell it to share my 3g | 18:33 |
| Kilos | lsusb shows-- Bus 001 Device 004: ID 18d1:0003 Google Inc. | 18:36 |
| Kilos | is that it? | 18:36 |
| Kilos | goooosie ping | 18:37 |
| Kilos | ok mtp-tools and mtpfs installing | 18:48 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 19:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ai! | 19:27 |
| Kilos | ai! what | 19:27 |
| Kilos | i can see the tablet now but cant get the tablet to share my 3g | 19:27 |
| inetpro | wat gaan jy maak met mtp-tools? | 19:28 |
| inetpro | oh, daai is net vir file sharing | 19:28 |
| inetpro | wel, sovêr ek dit verstaan | 19:28 |
| Kilos | ja ek dink dis nodig | 19:29 |
| inetpro | tegnies is internet ook maar net file sharing, maar nouja wel | 19:29 |
| Kilos | sonder daai twee goed het pc nie die tablet gesien nie | 19:29 |
| inetpro | net file sharing op ander maniere | 19:30 |
| Kilos | tegnies onthou ek hoe ek gesukkel het met ssh destyds | 19:30 |
| Kilos | die android goed is heel nuut vir my | 19:31 |
| inetpro | ongelukkig sal ek nie daarmee kan help nie | 19:31 |
| Kilos | maar kan darem boeke aflaai en sleep/drop hulle ne tablet | 19:31 |
| inetpro | android tethering is very very simple | 19:31 |
| Kilos | all the links i find are to share to tablets 3g | 19:32 |
| Kilos | as usual im back to front | 19:32 |
| * Kilos will sleep on this prob. you guys may join in on the nightmare | 19:38 | |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:38 |
| MeesterArend | Hey all | 19:52 |
| MeesterArend | Just checking to see who're still here :-D | 19:52 |
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| superfly | hi MeesterArend | 19:59 |
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