[01:07] <seronis> been a happy XFCE convert (from Win7) for almost 3 months now.  A friend has been begging me to try KDE though.  What do i need to know about trying it without doing a full reinstallation and without breaking XFCE ?
[01:10] <krytarik> seronis: Why not just try it in a Live DVD/USB then?
[01:10] <seronis> because those have crappy performance.  even xubuntu itself was fairly slow until i did a real install
[01:11] <seronis> @ krytarik
[01:12] <krytarik> Yeah, I think to get a better idea it's better to just boot the ISO directly from the hard drive via Grub.
[01:13] <seronis> what does it take to just install KDE side-by-side with XFCE ?
[01:13] <krytarik> seronis: Wait a sec, I'll get you a link.
[01:13] <seronis> ty
[01:14] <krytarik> Reg. booting the ISO directly from hard drive, that is.
[01:15] <krytarik> seronis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[01:16] <krytarik> seronis, otherwise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[01:18] <krytarik> seronis, and: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde , http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[01:19] <seronis> bookmarked the ISO link.. looks potentially useful in the future but not what im trying to do now.  Those others seem to be what i do need though.  Thank you krytarik
[01:19] <krytarik> Welcome.
[01:21] <krytarik> seronis: I personally use that ISO boot feature pretty heavily, it's sufficiently comparable to a real install actually.
[01:22] <seronis> how persistant is it ?
[01:22] <krytarik> Not at all.
[01:22] <seronis> so it would be great for a Guest login environment
[01:23] <krytarik> Only if nothing needs to be set up to work properly.
[01:23] <seronis> well xubuntu didnt need any setup for my laptop to work (including wireless)
[01:23] <seronis> though I know im probably REALLY lucky in that regard
[01:23] <krytarik> Yeah, that would work then.
[05:32] <trace_> is there anyone here that is familiar with plex?
[05:33] <holstein> plex server?
[05:33] <trace_> yes
[05:33] <holstein> i have heard of it.. and i was going to try setting something up with it soon
[05:33] <trace_> I'm having trouble getting it to recognize my media files on an external drive, ive read all the forums i could find but nothing fixed it lol
[05:34] <trace_> and its great if you can get it to work btw, definitely worth setting up
[05:34] <holstein> trace_: i would ask them.. http://www.plexapp.com/plexinc/
[05:34] <holstein> if the machine can see the files, you shoud be able to point to server to them
[05:35] <trace_> yeah and i did but when i scan it it doesnt show any of the files, lol, but i will give them a chat, thanks!
[05:36] <holstein> trace_: good luck
[08:57] <kineztranda> hi how to remove side scrool on terminal in xfce4
[08:58] <Sysi> scrollbar? in preferences, tab General
[09:03] <kineztranda> ty
[09:08] <kineztranda> what is best music player i dont like rityam box and i just want some simple i was just loking nightingale?
[09:08] <TheSheep> !best
[09:10] <Sysi> audacious is really simple
[09:10] <TheSheep> it's similar to the old winamp
[09:11] <kineztranda> i dont like rityambox it hes some stupit sorting thing and other
[09:12] <kineztranda> i just want simple like winamp
[09:14] <Sysi> in rhythmbox you can hide the browser and display just the list
[09:16] <kineztranda> i know but i want some lite program
[09:19] <kineztranda> what arhive men is simple too
[09:23] <redderhs> Hi, I am running Xubuntu 13.04 x64. I must have changed something at some point to where when the Taskbar panel is not in use, it goes dim. Does anyone know what I can change back so it just stays at a standard level of brightness?
[09:25] <TheSheep> redderhs: panel preferences, second tab, opacity, leave
[09:26] <redderhs> my enter and leave is both at 100
[10:09] <xubuntu262> Hello everyboy! Can i get any help with Thunar bookmarks?
[10:10] <xubuntu262> I swithed to Xubuntu from Ubuntu recently, and have some problems...
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !details|xubuntu262,
[10:12] <xubuntu262> I'm using Thunar and add bookmarks here. But when I'm opening/saving any file with GIMP (for example), dialog window doesn't have any bookmarks.
[10:13] <xubuntu262> Sorry for my English - I'm from Ukraine.
[10:14] <xubuntu262> In Ubuntu Open/Save dialog windows showed bookmarks from Nautilus. In Xubuntu bookmarks from Thunar shown only in Thunar.
[10:15] <knome> xubuntu262, which xubuntu version?
[10:15] <xubuntu262> Is there any way to show bookmarks from Thunar in dialog windows?
[10:15] <xubuntu262> 13.04 64x
[10:15] <knome> they should show up in there - they do for me
[10:19] <xubuntu262> Well, maybe there's some problems with Home folder.
[10:19] <knome> home folder?
[10:20] <knome> is it the home folder that is not appearing, or the GTK bookmarks?
[10:20] <xubuntu262> I didn't format Home partition after installing Xubuntu.
[10:20] <xubuntu262> GTK-bookmarks
[10:20] <Sysi> try with some other program, if it seems consistent, try logging out and back in
[10:20] <xubuntu262> Firefox - same story.
[10:20] <knome> are the GTK bookmarks network bookmarks?
[10:21] <xubuntu262> No. Local folders.
[10:22] <Sysi> I have a hunch this is related to going from nautilus to thunar, bu no idea about fixing it
[10:22] <knome> xubuntu262, have you tried readding the same bookmarks?
[10:22] <knome> (or one, for starters)
[10:23] <xubuntu262> I've installed Cairo dock - it shows bookmarks from Thunar. But when I'm trying to open file in Firefox, in Open/Save dialog window - epmty.
[10:23] <xubuntu262> I've tried to readd them - same story
[10:24] <xubuntu262> Looks like dialog windows shows Nautilus bookmarks somehow
[10:24] <knome> backup your ~/.gtk-bookmarks file and then remove the original
[10:24] <knome> and see what happens
[10:25] <knome> actually
[10:25] <knome> do that for ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
[10:27] <xubuntu262> I'll try
[10:33] <knome> xubuntu009, did that work?
[10:34] <xubuntu009> Thanks <knome> for help with Thunar bookmarks :)
[10:34] <knome> np
[10:36] <xubuntu009> Deleted files .gtk-bookmarks and bookmarks, relogged, added bookmarks again - and it worked :)
[10:36] <xubuntu009> By the way, Xubuntu is awesome! Thnx again :)
[10:49] <redderhs> About a half hour ago, I wrote a message in here about my taskbar panel going dim when it is not in use. I am on a Laptop, I tried switching back to laptops display so that is only in use, it does not go dim on there, only on my hdtv it is doing this. any suggestions? going to try flipping through any tv settings to see if it is causing this.
[10:52] <redderhs> just tried all the different tv firmware settings, doesnt appear to be that.
[10:55] <knome> redderhs, have you checked settings manager -> window manager tweaks -> compositor?
[10:56] <knome> (is that what you mean?)
[10:56] <redderhs> Another thing I noticed, if I use a lower resolution, it doesn't do it. On this TV, it happens at 1920x1080. but if it went down to 1600x1200 or 1280x1024 it's fine.
[10:57] <redderhs> earlier this morning, i had another tv hooked up, both are samsung, but the other one can only do 720p. That tv at its max resolution was doing this same issue.
[10:59] <redderhs> knome: I was using xfwm4 but now i am using compiz, i tried turning compiz's composite off and it didn't change anything
[10:59] <knome> i'm sorry, but compiz isn't really supported
[10:59] <knome> it might very well be something related to that
[10:59] <redderhs> the issue was happening in xfwm4 as well, i just installed compiz a few hours ago
[11:00] <redderhs> i am going to try to turn off composite via settings editor
[11:00] <knome> i don't really know compiz at all
[11:00] <knome> i would suggest trying to disable both compiz and xfwm compositor
[11:03] <redderhs> going to try that now, will let you know what happens
[11:04] <redderhs> brb
[11:08] <redderhs> it's still doing it.
[11:08] <redderhs> i'm just wondering why a difference in resolution stops it from happening
[11:08] <knome> can you describe a bit more accurately what is actually happening?
[11:09] <redderhs> Sure, if I don't have any windows visible, the taskbar (panel) goes darker than it is when windows are visible on the screen.
[11:09] <redderhs> if i minimize every single one, it goes darker
[11:10] <knome> hmm, that sounds like the tv's could be affecting that
[11:10] <redderhs> yeah its really weird
[11:10] <redderhs> the notebooks display is 1366x768 at max resolution it doesnt do it, just seems to be the tv's
[11:11] <knome> that almost sounds like some kind of contrast fixing the tv is trying to do
[11:11] <knome> what if you use a pure white wallpaper?
[11:12] <redderhs> you are onto something, it doesn't do it then.
[11:12] <knome> then i'd say it's the tv
[11:12] <redderhs> this must be some energy saver thing or something, let me recheck the settings on the tv..
[11:12] <knome> :)
[11:13] <knome> or it might just be a rather stupid contrast correction thing that you can't turn on/off
[11:13] <xubuntu427> Gd day, I would like to ask if possible to run xubuntu via usb - live ?
[11:13] <knome> xubuntu427, yes, that's possible
[11:14] <knome> !usb | xubuntu427
[11:14] <redderhs> yeah, I think you're right, I just checked any type of correction setting or eco type thing, theyre all off.
[11:14] <xubuntu427> I dont know why but I can not install any other distrubion via usb Probably
[11:14] <xubuntu427> due to hardware of my laptop.
[11:14] <knome> xubuntu427, are you sure you are able to boot from USB?
[11:15] <knome> xubuntu427, or that the BIOS settings let you do that?
[11:15] <xubuntu427> yes i am. With pendrive software on windows i created xubuntu-12.0.4
[11:15] <knome> redderhs, solution: buy a better TV, or use a wallpaper with light areas so the contrast correction doesn't jump in
[11:15] <xubuntu427> i am able to boot. but when i hit enter on "install" system frozen.
[11:16] <redderhs> thank you for the solution.
[11:16] <xubuntu427> knome: 8 years ago i installed manytimes slackware, redhat, mandrake, debian. but now i am lamer :D
[11:16] <knome> redderhs, no problem. enjoy :)
[11:17] <knome> xubuntu427, if you have a CPU that doesn't support PAE, you'll need to use 12.04
[11:17] <xubuntu427> im trying to install 12.04
[11:17] <knome> okay
[11:17] <knome> did you try the alternate installer?
[11:18] <xubuntu427> burned xubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-i386.iso to my usbdisk.
[11:19] <JackJackJack> on another distro, i found pnp bios do not allow something. so i tried with pnpbios=off and i passed next step succesfully. but another error showed up due SCSI sdb1 drive.
[11:19] <JackJackJack> probably this matter is the same. how can i let installer pass scsci ... or what else?
[11:21] <JackJackJack> i only accomplished to install linux distro (mint) after openening with live cd and run install guide. but directly from boot menu i can not continue due error mentioned above. what you can say, friend?
[11:21] <knome> JackJackJack, i'm not an expert on that... but you could go asking #ubuntu for help on this, because this is not xubuntu-specific
[11:22] <knome> JackJackJack, "this" being your problems installing gneerally
[11:22] <JackJackJack> yes you are right knome , joined #ubuntu . thank you.
[11:24] <JackJackJack> downloading debian live almost finished. i hope with  text installtion able to find my answer own :D
[11:26] <knome> JackJackJack, good luck
[11:26] <knome> i need to run now - see you all later
[11:27] <JackJackJack> good day knome thanks again.
[13:02] <nantou>  i deleted google earth from synaptic, but the icon in menu-internet is still there. Odd thing is: if i right click on the xubuntu icon top left and edit the menus, the google earth access icon is not there
[13:02] <nantou> is there any other way to edit the applications menu?
[13:09] <xubuntu878> hello
[13:10] <xubuntu878> someone speaks Spanish?
[13:13] <xubuntu878> I would like to know how to create a simple macro.
[13:13] <xubuntu878> I'm setting up a command arcade to play and need to create shortcuts for all functions.
[13:14] <xubuntu878> eg:       1 & 2 :: Send {Esc};     1 & Ctrl :: Send {Enter}
[13:14] <xubuntu878> I would greatly appreciate assistance
[13:17] <Unit193> !es
[13:18] <pcuser> hello everyone
[13:18] <pcuser> i am having some problems importing vpn connections in xubuntu 13.04
[13:18] <Unit193> Importing, in what application?
[13:19] <pcuser> i am trying to import 400+ .ovpn files, when importing them using the network-mananger it does not seem to pick up any of the certificates embeded in the ovpn file
[13:19] <pcuser> i have the certificates in files in my home directory, and manually pointing the network-manager to these files works fine
[13:20] <pcuser> but i have to do them one by one, so i found the connection profiles in /etc/NetworkMananger/system-connections
[13:20] <pcuser> i wrote a script to take the info i need from the ovpn files, and generate files i was hoping to just copy to the /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory
[13:21] <pcuser> this however does not seem to work,
[13:21] <pcuser> should the uuid on each network connection be unique?
[13:22] <pcuser> i am using the files found here: http://wiki.hidemyass.com/Tutorials:HMA_VPN_via_OpenVPN_on_Ubuntu_with_Network_Manager
[13:22] <Unit193> That's the general idea of a "Unique ID", yep.
[13:23] <pcuser> thought so, i was not sure if that id was for the connection itself, or the id for the network adapter
[13:24] <pcuser> im assuming the network manager generates this id when creating the network connections. is there any way to create the network connections via CLI rather then via the GUI
[13:26] <Unit193> There is "nmcli", but I've not used it.
[13:27] <pcuser> nmcli lets me output info about the connections, but i cant see any options to import or create new connections via nmcli
[13:29] <Unit193> I've not used the VPN feature myself.
[13:41] <Belial`> anyone here using thunderbird?
[13:51] <zoz> Belial, I do
[13:51] <Belial`> zoz, are you still getting notifications of new emails in 13.04?
[13:51] <Belial`> or are you using an older version?
[13:52] <zoz> I'm using 13.04.
[13:52] <Belial`> i don't get anything when a new email arrives and the xfce4-notifyd is running and working with everything else.
[13:52] <Belial`> pidgin, updates, etc
[13:52] <Belial`> was wondering if i was the only one.
[13:53] <zoz> Not sure about the notifications, though.  I start and stop Tbird for each mail-reading session, so I'm just looking at the main gui for anything new
[13:53] <Belial`> ah
[13:54] <Belial`> i think it might have something to do with a thunderbird update because it was working on  a previous install of 13.04
[13:54] <zoz> I just started it now, and I do get a pop-up notification when it connects and finds new mail
[13:54] <Belial`> i had to reinstall xubuntu because of a hard drive crash.
[13:54] <Belial`> hmm
[13:54] <Belial`> i don't get it.
[13:54] <zoz> Tbird 17.0.7
[13:54] <Belial`> yeah, same version.
[13:55] <Belial`> i wonder if it had something to do with my compton settings.
[13:55] <Belial`> for whatever reason
[13:55] <Belial`> do you have thunderbird-gnome-support installed, zoz?
[13:55] <zoz> I don't
[13:56] <zoz> You get notifications for other stuff, just not thunderbird?
[13:56] <Belial`> yeah
[13:56] <zoz> hmm
[13:57] <zoz> And, just for sanity, Preferences -> General -> Show and alert is checked?
[13:57] <Belial`> yeah
[13:57] <Belial`> everything under customize is checked too
[13:58] <zoz> Same here
[13:58] <zoz> You could maybe check the settings in xfce-notifyd-config, but if other alerts are working, that seems unlikely to be the problem
[13:59] <Belial`> yeah, i just commented out a line in my compton config
[13:59] <Belial`> gonna restart x and see if that changed anything
[13:59] <zoz> good luck
[14:04] <Belial`> in my face
[14:04] <Belial`> that did it
[14:04] <zoz> good!
[16:04] <Guest58691> Por favor, digam para os programadores do Xubuntu 13 não mexerem mais em nada
[16:04] <Guest58691> Tá tudo muito bom e simples
[16:04] <Guest58691> e leve
[16:05] <TheSheep> !br | Guest58691
[16:05] <Guest58691> Valeu ubottu
[17:51] <xubuntu737> hi everybody
[19:08] <samy> I have a strange problem
[19:08] <samy> my vpn is connected and i cant login?
[20:16] <ef5c_ef5c> j/#xubuntu,#ubuntu
[20:16] <ef5c_ef5c> oops
[21:48] <xubuntu803> Hi everybody. I'm a xubuntu newcomer and, surprise, I need help. After installing xubuntu 12.04 on my old samsung p35, almost everything is working brilliant, except the wireless LAN. The blue button to enable the WLAN is on, but the system tells me, that the wireless network is off. It's an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG. Even, when I sitch it on manually, it does not start scanning. What am I doing wrong?
[21:59] <Programmer_> what is a good application launcher similiar the default app on ubuntu, by pressing alt+F2
[23:06] <vorsorken> Programmer_: I don't know if it's similar to what you mentioned, but gnome do has served me well
[23:29] <Programmer_> thx