[00:03] <Unit193> !metapackage
[00:05] <JesseH> I see
[00:07] <JesseH> Thanks.
[00:07] <Unit193> Sure.
[03:31] <mikubuntu> could anyone tell me why my wireless login info doesn't persist between sessions? everytime i boot i have to enter the wireless passkey to connect -- this only started happening after i added the lubuntu-desktop to my *buntu several months ago.
[03:55] <ianorlin> I don't know
[05:01] <mikubuntu> could anyone tell me why my wireless login info doesn't persist between sessions? everytime i boot i have to enter the wireless passkey to connect -- this only started happening after i added the lubuntu-desktop to my *buntu several months ago.
[08:03] <Guest47886> hi everyone, i've recently installed lubuntu 13.04 on my old toshiba netbook.  i love the experience, but the start-ups usually takes 5-10mins.  is there anyway to make it faster?
[08:06] <Guest47886> ?
[09:39] <remzo> hello
[09:39] <remzo> I am having issues with pacmanfm and network drives
[09:39] <remzo> i keep geting "operation not supported"
[09:44] <JesseH> Hello remzo
[09:44] <JesseH> Can you explain a bit more? I've never had the situation.
[09:44] <remzo> JesseH, well I click on go>network drives
[09:45] <remzo> and I get "error: operation not supported"
[09:45] <remzo> I do not know why this is happening, as this is limited to only one computer
[09:46] <remzo> I did try reinstalling gvfs-backends, ...
[09:46] <remzo> but nothing change
[09:46] <JesseH> What about gamin?
[09:46] <remzo> and I get the same - operation not supported - with smb://MY_SERVER/ or sftp://MY_SERVER/
[09:47] <remzo> I have installed gamin
[09:47] <JesseH> And you logged out, restarted wtc?
[09:47] <JesseH> etc*
[09:47] <remzo> yes
[09:48] <mikubuntu> could anyone tell me why my wireless login info doesn't persist between sessions? everytime i boot i have to enter the wireless passkey to connect -- this only started happening after i added the lubuntu-desktop to my *buntu several months ago.
[09:48] <remzo> JesseH, I would have tried to upgrade to 13.04, but I need to keep 12.10 as it is a developers box with specific lib requirements
[09:49] <JesseH> remzo, Not sure on a fix. Idle around and see if one of the experienced guys helps.
[09:49] <JesseH> mikubuntu, One second
[09:49] <remzo> JesseH, thnx
[09:49] <JesseH> np :-)
[09:52] <JesseH> mikubuntu, right click on that network icon and do edit connections. Then click wireless, make sure you have that setup, and "edit" the connection of your choosing and there should be a "automatically connect" button or something.
[09:52] <JesseH> or well "connect automatically"
[09:52] <JesseH> Make sure you put the password in the Wireless Security tab
[09:53] <JesseH> It's the same for ubuntu, mikubuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Networking
[10:45] <Riccardone> Hi all, do you for a bug on the lastes 13.04 on the Desktop PReferences ?
[10:46] <JesseH> Riccardone, your sentence is a bit hard to understand mate
[10:46] <Riccardone> I try to change my desktop wallpaper, but when i reboot my pc, the desktop is the default desktop ... My modification deosn't have place ..
[10:47] <Riccardone> the same for the font size, i changhe the font size to 8ppt, but at the restart i founde the default Ubuntu-11 ...
[10:47] <Riccardone> *change
[10:48] <Riccardone> JesseH: I installed yesterday yet ...
[10:52] <Riccardone> I think my permission wasn't ok, but really the /usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers have the drw-rw-r-- permission so it's ok
[10:52] <Riccardone> I've applied all the updates/upgrades but the bug remains ...
[10:52] <Riccardone> do you have an idea ?
[11:28] <JesseH> Riccardone, Not really sure. That has happened to me before on ubuntu, I am not sure what could have caused it.
[11:54] <Riccardone> JesseH: i try many times. I'm sure there is a bug ...
[11:55] <Riccardone> After all, I've formatted HD and reinstalled all from the beginning and the issue was present  ...
[11:55] <Riccardone> So, i decide to stand by some days, perahps someon will fix the bug ...
[11:55] <Riccardone> *someone
[11:57] <JesseH> Riccardone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
[11:57] <JesseH> Report it :D
[12:00] <Riccardone> ok. Now I'm at office, when I'm going home i 'm going to report it :) thanx a lot
[12:01] <Guest96277> Hi! IRC virgin here. Looking for help fixing a problem with Lubuntu. Is this the appropriate place to ask?
[12:07] <JesseH> I believe all irc clients should give people a warning message saying "If you don't idle, chances are your questions won't be answered."
[13:08] <leszek> hi
[13:20] <Riccardone> leszek: hi
[13:48] <malaphus> Anyone know how I can add (if possible) custom items to the main LXDE panel menu?  I know it generates the subfolders from /usr/share/applications/*.desktop, but I'd like to add a few commonly-used applications to the main menu itself (not within a subfolder)
[13:52] <leszek> malaphus: you could use an editor like alacarte for this
[13:53] <malaphus> Will look into that, thanks
[13:54] <Unit193> I know in another DE you can use "Categories=X-XFCE;X-Xfce-Toplevel;"
[13:54] <malaphus> oh wow, alacarte has like 100 dependencies
[13:54] <malaphus> kind of overkill heh
[13:54] <Unit193> --no-install-recommends
[14:57] <stuartiannaylor> Hi apols, just did a install with the mini iso and then an apt-get install lubuntu-core and got loads on the install even end up with firefox and rythmbox installed? !!
[15:19] <stuartiannaylor> anyone tried to get a minimal lubuntu from raring 64?
[15:22] <stuartiannaylor> anyone chatting ?
[15:25] <holstein> stuartiannaylor: whats the question?
[15:25] <holstein> stuartiannaylor: there are volunteers here, yes
[15:25] <holstein> stuartiannaylor: most testing happens on the actual iso's being installed
[15:26] <holstein> stuartiannaylor: do you want help on removing the few apps that it seems the meta-package pulled in that you dont want?
[16:10] <NSA_AGENT> hi all , im trying to get penguintv running on lubuntu. when i try to run it i get these errors. any suggestions. im really new to linux so im pretty lost  http://pastebin.com/gL3aSRKS
[16:12] <holstein> Please export WITH_MOZ_DIR with the location of run-mozilla.sh to correct this issue
[16:12] <holstein> ^^ thats the eroor message from the paste
[16:45] <mikubuntu> JesseH: yes jesse, 'connect automatically' is (has been) checked, but it doesn't connect automatically
[16:53] <bennypr0fane> hello, in Synaptic package manager, how can I find out for a given package which repository it comes from?
[16:53] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i would right click and look at the properties
[17:11] <bennypr0fane> holstein: nope it's not there
[17:13] <holstein> bennypr0fane: it acutally is
[17:13] <holstein> bennypr0fane: open synaptic.. search for the package, and right click
[17:13] <bennypr0fane> tell me where exactly?
[17:13] <bennypr0fane> Properties window has 5 tabs:
[17:14] <holstein> under "versions" you should be able to tell where it is coming from withoht any trouble
[17:14] <bennypr0fane> general, dependencies, installed files, versions, description
[17:15] <bennypr0fane> in that tab, on my screen there is  nothing but the version number, which I can see already in Synaptics main window
[17:16] <holstein> and, it should say where it is coming from
[17:16] <holstein> ubuntu, or ppa
[17:16] <bennypr0fane> does not
[17:16] <bennypr0fane> oh wait
[17:16] <holstein> bennypr0fane: what does it say?
[17:17] <bennypr0fane> it says raring
[17:17] <bennypr0fane> e.g. 2.10-33~raring1
[17:17] <bennypr0fane> that's all though, really
[17:19] <bennypr0fane> fvor upgradeable packages, there's the present version number and the one for the available update
[17:19] <bennypr0fane> i dunno,. maybe I have a differnt version of synaptic
[17:20] <bennypr0fane> it's 0.80~exp2raring1
[17:21] <holstein> bennypr0fane: the maintainer is not referencing the PPA?
[17:21] <holstein> in the common tab?
[17:21] <bennypr0fane> This is where I looked for the info first, too, and it'd seem strange for it not to be available in Synaptic
[17:22] <bennypr0fane> if a package has a little ubuntu-icon in front of it, does that mean it comes from official Ubuntu repos?
[17:23] <bennypr0fane> because these packages don't carry info about the source repo either
[17:25] <bennypr0fane> for instance, the package "base-passwd", in the "general" tab under "source" it says "base-passwd". In the "version" tab, there's just 3.5.26 (raring)
[17:25] <bennypr0fane> So you get the info in your Synaptic?
[17:25] <bennypr0fane> holstein
[17:26]  * holstein checking
[19:02] <ArchBeOS> hey guys. im a dev who wants to help out wherever he can with this project. Is there a wiki page or some place where i can start reading into how i can help?
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ArchBeOS: www.lubuntu.net should be a great place to start
[19:04] <ArchBeOS> why thank you SonikkuAmerica for sending me to www.lubuntu.net. what ever would i do without that bit of knowledge.
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> I hope that wasn't sarcastic... it has a Get Involved page... :\
[19:06] <ArchBeOS> SonikkuAmerica: jesus man, im sorry. i feel like a jackalope now. i see where you wanted me to go. you didnt deserve that and i shall leave in shame
[19:07] <ArchBeOS> i thought you were being a jerk to me like the fedora guys were...
[19:07] <ArchBeOS> im sorry
[19:07] <SonikkuAmerica> No biggie!
[19:31] <bennypr0fane> hello, I need some help figuring out the contents of this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon-stable/+packages
[19:32] <bennypr0fane> the thing is, on that launchpad page, it lists a package that is not available to me in apt-get or synaptic
[19:35] <bennypr0fane> I need a driver for my Canon Pixma MX350. For most of the printer models here, there are *3* packages listed, e.g.: cnijfilter-mx360series, cnijfilter-mx360series-32; cnijfilter-mx360series-64
[19:35] <bennypr0fane> 1.) what about the one that dopesn't specify the architecture
[19:37] <zleap> As a wild guess that could be text configuration files,  if they are not binary then the work on any architecture i guess
[19:38] <bennypr0fane> 2.)  for my model MX350 there is only the non-specific one and 32. My system is 64bit. I'd like to find out why there's no 64bit build and what that means in terms of which driver I need to use
[19:39] <bennypr0fane> also, if I do a search in Synaptic for cnijfilter-mx350, only the 32bit packages shows up
[19:39] <bennypr0fane> what are text configuration files?
[19:39] <bennypr0fane> zleasp
[19:39] <bennypr0fane> zleap,
[19:40] <zleap> yeah
[19:40] <bennypr0fane> on that launchpad page, I don't see a way to get more specific info about each package
[19:40] <zleap> text files with configuration info
[19:40] <bennypr0fane> and they're cross-architecture?
[19:41] <zleap> if you click on the package names you get more info, i guess wen you install it wil use what it needs
[19:42] <bennypr0fane> only the "common" package extend to list its contents. the model-specific packages aren't clickable
[19:43] <zleap> i know lpr has filters to make the printer work, these work with the binary packages i guess these are your text configuration files
[19:44] <zleap> hence you may have cupsfilter for a specific package
[19:44] <zleap> i am not an expert at this
[19:44] <zleap> just trying to go from experience
[19:44] <bennypr0fane> but if the unspecified ones are not actually installable packages, that would explain why they're not listed in Synaptic. apt-cache search lists them though: ~$ apt-cache search cnijfilter-mx350series cnijfilter-mx350series-32 - IJ Printer Driver for Linux. cnijfilter-mx350series - IJ Printer Driver for Linux.
[19:45] <bennypr0fane> what is lpr?
[19:50] <zleap> printing
[19:50] <zleap> like cups, but lpr is a lot lot older but is there as it works and is used with other printers
[19:54] <bennypr0fane> zleap, I have the common driver package 64 installed right now. If I try to install "cnijfilter-mx350series", it wants to remove the 64bit pkg and replace it with the 32 bit one
[19:55] <zleap> ok
[19:55] <bennypr0fane> the common pkg is there in 64 flavour, the specific one for my model only in 32bit
[19:55] <zleap> so its a dependancy issue then i guess
[19:55] <zleap> will the 32 bit driver work its for a printer
[19:56] <bennypr0fane> I wanna figure out why the 64bit flavour is not in that ppa, but it is for other models
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> I've used the 32 bit dirver in the past. a much older one though downloaded from Canon
[19:57] <zleap> can anyone help here please I am in over my head a little
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't
[19:57] <zleap> hmm
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> yes please anyone! :-)
[19:58] <zleap> i know it cna take a while to print
[19:58] <bennypr0fane> so due to total refusal of the printer to respond, I removed it from the system and now I'm trying to reinstall it
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> The ancient dowloaded driver is already installed
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> the problem is cups can't find it on the network
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> so I wanna try and see if it works with a newer driver
[20:01] <zleap> the configuration is at port 601 i think so
[20:01] <zleap> http://yourip:601
[20:01] <bennypr0fane> I managed to add the printer to Cups  by specifying the Mac address manually. Still it doesn't respond to print jobs
[20:02] <zleap> i can't help i struggle with this myself sometimes
[20:02] <zleap> philipballew,
[20:02] <zleap> anyone
[20:02] <bennypr0fane> configuration of the printer? cups is at 631
[20:02] <zleap> ok sorry
[20:03] <bennypr0fane> well thanks for trying
[20:03] <zleap> i kniow it was sometinglike that
[20:03] <bennypr0fane> do you know if debian has ppas too?
[20:03] <philipballew> zleap, whats wrong?
[20:04] <zleap> I am trying to help bennypr0fane with cups but am in over my head on package stuff
[20:04] <zleap> sorry
[20:05] <bennypr0fane> philipballew, do you have access to what I posted previously?
[20:05] <philipballew> your printer problem?
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> yes
[20:06] <philipballew> What did AskUbuntu show bennypr0fane ?
[20:06] <philipballew> Anyone else had this problem there?
[20:07] <bennypr0fane> philipballew, didn't check
[20:08] <bennypr0fane> I know lots of people are fukcing around with Canon printers as they never provide proper drivers, but it's a total swamp
[20:08] <philipballew> bennypr0fane, I always find good help there if it is just an error message I am getting. If not that, some other distros form page maybe as well.
[20:08] <bennypr0fane> dozens of threads to comb through
[20:08] <bennypr0fane> from page?
[20:08] <philipballew> I have never used a cannon. I have an hp from like 2002 I still use
[20:08] <philipballew> bennypr0fane, form...
[20:08]  * zleap uses brother
[20:08] <philipballew> my bad
[20:09] <bennypr0fane> no error msg, just nothingness
[20:09] <philipballew> I am not a fan of printers since they are made to break so the companies can make more money. I do not support that.
[20:09] <bennypr0fane> philipballew, I made a type, not you. however, what is a form page?
[20:10] <philipballew> bennypr0fane, I see. Well maybe you can ask on AskUbuntu if you;re not getting help here. That is my next step if it was my problem
[20:10] <bennypr0fane> *typo
[20:10] <philipballew> http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php
[20:10] <philipballew> like that ^
[20:12] <bennypr0fane> alright will try
[20:13] <bennypr0fane> thanks everyone
[20:14] <bennypr0fane> alright, you did make a typo after all, twice. you meant forUm (U was missing). got it.
[20:15] <philipballew> bennypr0fane, Blame the American education system.
[20:17] <bennypr0fane> anyone know how to scan my subnet for the printer with nmap? I know my IP is 10.0.0.something
[20:17] <bennypr0fane> my own IP should by easy to find, yes?
[20:18] <wxl> ifconfig
[20:19] <bennypr0fane> I have 10.0.0.36, the other computer has 10.0.0.255, the nas has 10.0.0.139. How would you scan for the printer
[20:20] <wxl> you can do nmap -sP '10.0.0.*'
[20:20] <bennypr0fane> I want to check if it's even up.
[20:20] <bennypr0fane> right, -sP I was missing
[20:24] <bennypr0fane> How do I find which protocol it uses?
[20:24] <wxl> hm?
[20:24] <wxl> sorry i got into the tail end of this convo
[20:24] <wxl> what's the context?
[20:28] <bennypr0fane> wxl I'm trying to make my Canon network printer work
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> I've used the 32 bit driver on my 64 bit Lubuntu in the past. A much older one though downloaded from Canon. Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't. So due to total refusal of the printer to respond, I removed it from the system and now I'm trying to reinstall it. The ancient dowloaded driver is already installed. the problem is cups can't find it on the network
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> wxl: I managed to add the printer to Cups  by specifying the Mac address manually. Still it doesn't respond to print jobs. Cups says (or the printer is saying to Cups?): "cannot specify model number."
[20:32] <wxl> bennypr0fane: this may be a good time to consult the cups folks. i'm not sure about that one
[20:32] <bennypr0fane> this is with the newer driver from this ppa:https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon-stable/+packages
[20:33] <bennypr0fane> still 32 bit though as that repo doesn't have the 64bit flavour either