[02:06] <iceroot> hi
[02:06] <iceroot> is the latest 13.10 already using MIR? or still only X11?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, 13.10 is #ubuntu+1
[02:15] <bazhang> which is this channel
[02:15] <bazhang> !find mir
[02:15] <bazhang> !find mir saucy
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, Doh seeing double I thought it was beginners.
[08:27] <iceroot> bazhang: thank you, so i guess i have to wait
[09:15] <DJones> iceroot: I remembered seeing this last week about Mir, not sure if it helps but may be worth a read, http://www.olli-ries.com/running-mir/
[09:18] <iceroot> DJones: very useful, thank you
[09:19] <DJones> You're welcome, I'm debating a new partition to install saucy to give things a test myself
[09:19] <iceroot> i just want to have a look if i will stay with ubuntu and mir in the future or say bye bye to ubuntu and switch back to debian because of all the things canocial is doing alone (unity, mir, upstart)
[09:20] <iceroot> i am not sure if it is a good idea to replace X11 with MIR while all others will use wayland
[09:24] <iceroot> but if i get mir correctly, i will ALWAYS have a X11 interface as well, which running as something like an overlay on MIR (hope this is the correct channel for MIR)
[09:25] <DJones> I just hope that people give it a chance and don't just drop away without giving it a reasonable time to mature
[09:26] <DJones> I'm pretty sure Mir does have its own dedicated channel #ubuntu-mir so if you don't get a replyhere to questions.comments, that might be worth joining for discussion as well
[09:28] <iceroot> DJones: i always give new things a chance, i like unity a lot now but i dont like do have a system which is more like Ubuntu/Linux instead of GNU/Linux. i want to be free to choose what i want, at the moment i can only choose one distribution if i like unity for example
[09:29] <iceroot> and i am sure as a normal enduser i dont see a difference in using X11, wayland or MIR
[10:38] <FernandoMiguel> bRoas
[11:21] <maxoiaojun> hi, anyone on saucy bother to install "lsb" package and run /usr/lib/lsb/install_initd ?
[11:21] <maxoiaojun> I believe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1035136 is not fixed even on raring
[11:21] <maxoiaojun> not fixed even on saucy
[13:19] <Bulubulu> i ask for i915
[13:19] <Bulubulu> those ppa kernel on ubuntu has a drm-intel patched one, is it safe to use this if problems with xorg exists?
[13:20] <Bulubulu> i got some random dmesg errors with i915 tainted or something
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:49] <Stanley00> downloading saucy... don't know if the daily image come with mir yet?
[13:51] <Bulubulu> how to tell mr kernel to use more swap
[13:53] <BluesKaj> it'll come with Xmir I think
[13:56] <Stanley00> thanks... still downloading... waiting... :D
[14:14] <Bulubulu> sausage salami is good
[14:31] <Bulubulu> is it possible to log the hd activity (hd sleep turnin off) to dmesg or something?
[16:44] <Fuzzles272> whens mir coming to 13.10 daily?
[16:45] <FernandoMiguel> mir?
[16:48] <Fuzzles272> ye MIR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_%28display_server%29
[16:50] <FernandoMiguel> ah
[16:50] <FernandoMiguel> !mir
[16:50] <FernandoMiguel> 14.04 it seems
[16:52] <Fuzzles272> but was told be defult in 13.10 to use it and get it stable for the lts
[16:52] <FernandoMiguel> no idea
[16:54] <Pici> I just saw something about this... one moment
[16:55] <Pici> ...
[16:55] <Pici> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037401.html
[16:56] <Pici> If they come back