[00:27]  * snwh is back (gone 00:22:35)
[06:59] <dpm> good morning
[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[08:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN_: hi, back from your vacations ? hope you had a great time. ping me when you're not busy so we can figure out how to schedule the next two days work to finish the webbrowser component
[08:38] <oSoMoN_> nerochiaro: hey, yep I’m back, give me an hour or so to catch up
[08:39] <oSoMoN_> with the outstanding stuff, and I’ll ping you
[08:39] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Second Half of the Year Day! :-D
[08:39] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN_: sounds good
[09:59] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ping
[09:59] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: hi
[10:00] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so the current status for backporting all your changes is that they have been done up to revision 176
[10:00] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and they are pushed to lp:~~amanzi-team/ubuntu-ui-extras/ubuntu-ui-extras-initial/
[10:01] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: looks like you’ve done most of the backporting, are you blocked on anything special?
[10:02] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: the remaining revisions to merge are few (4 totals I think) and easy, so probably no blockers, but i would like to have my work checked properly by someone that undertands it. and i think i will especially need some help in 2 areas: (a) translations and (b) remove from webbrowser-app what is already in the component
[10:03] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok, I’ll start checking your branch while you backport the remaining revisions
[10:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: sounds like a plan
[10:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i think i submitted an MR for it already
[13:05] <om26er> nerochiaro, Hey!
[13:08] <nerochiaro> om26er: ho
[13:08] <nerochiaro> hi
[13:09] <om26er> nerochiaro, when we switch to video recording camera goes blank. is that something you aware of ?
[13:09] <nerochiaro> om26er: gusch probably knows more about that, he's worked on video recording
[13:10] <gusch> om26er: just for a second - that's expected
[13:12] <om26er> gusch, its like that forever on flipped image I am using http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=263089
[13:13] <gusch> om26er: hmmm - then something is wrong with the flipped image :(
[13:14] <om26er> gusch, is there a way to launch the camera directly in video recording mode?
[13:14] <om26er> I want to make sure the problem only happens when we switch mode
[13:18] <om26er> btw video recording works for the front camera, the problem is only with the back camera
[13:22] <gusch> om26er: let me check the fiel toch change for video mode
[13:23] <odra> Hey
[13:23] <om26er> gusch, gusch switching to front camera for video recording and then getting back to rare camera makes t
[13:23] <om26er> oops
[13:23] <odra> Can someone try to install my app?
[13:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: do you think we should split the assets into a separate pacakge for the browser component too ?
[13:23] <gusch> om26er: camera-app.qml line 72 has to be set to "captureMode: Camera.CaptureVideo"
[13:23] <om26er> i mean switching to front camera and switching back to rare makes the video recording work again
[13:23] <odra> I've been trying to find someone to try to install it for days :(
[13:24] <om26er> *rear
[13:24] <odra> Here, https://github.com/odraencoded/pynorama tell me if you can do it. :|
[13:25] <odra> (it's a gtk app btw not a qml one)
[13:25] <gusch> om26er: can you reproduce the error reliably?
[13:25] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: yes, it has been done for the app, so it should be done for the component
[13:25] <om26er> gusch, yep totally
[13:26] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[13:26] <gusch> om26er: you might fiel a bug - or wait until flipped container is default
[13:26] <om26er> gusch, I can wait ;)
[13:27] <gusch> odra: I don't think gtk apps work on touch ubuntu devices atm.
[13:29] <odra> gusch: I know they don't.
[13:29] <odra> gusch: But it's an app, and it runs on ubuntu, and I developed it. See, where I'm going?
[13:30] <odra> Also I can't find another channel for app development :|
[13:31] <gusch> odra: sou you want it to install on desktop ubuntu?
[13:31] <odra> Yes.
[13:31] <odra> I've never made anything that installs on linux so I don't know if it installs correctly.
[13:34] <gusch> odra: well - automake/autoconf - haven't used it since 10 years or so ;)
[13:34] <gusch> odra: does "make install" do something?
[13:34] <odra> gusch: It should install.
[13:34] <gusch> odra: and in the end, you'll want to create a debian package
[13:34] <gusch> odra: google for debian package create
[13:34] <odra> gusch: Yes but there is no point having a makefile that doesn't install
[13:34] <gusch> odra: sorry - but I'n ot an expert there
[13:35] <gusch> odra: as you have image and python files, you could even create a debian configuration without install
[13:35] <odra> gusch: Just type "aclocal && autoconf && automake --foreign --add-missing && ./configure && make" and then "make install" with permissions :u
[13:37] <odra> If it works, running "pynorama" from console should open a window without showing errors on the terminal. :/
[13:38] <gusch> odra: crashes for me - I think I miss some package
[13:39] <odra> gusch: try "apt-get install python3 python3-gi python3-gi-cairo python3-cairo"
[13:40] <gusch> odra: btw did you read this already? http://askubuntu.com/questions/144178/how-to-distribute-python-gtk-applications
[13:41] <odra> gusch: Most likely not
[13:41] <gusch> odra: or this http://askubuntu.com/questions/46325/how-to-make-a-deb-pkg-for-my-pygtk-app
[13:42] <odra> gusch: I didn't try to make a debian package why would I have looked into debian packaging?
[13:43] <gusch> odra: the cleanest way to install, is to build a package, and then install that package
[13:43] <odra> make builds, make install installs. :|
[13:44] <odra> I'll package this later once I get a few other features working :/
[13:58] <odra> gusch: But could you do it?
[14:00] <gusch> odra: packaging? sorry - I'm pretty busy
[14:00] <odra> gusch: no...
[14:00] <gusch> odra: and ./configure gave me an error
[14:00] <odra> I'm asking if you could install it.
[14:00] <gusch> odra: configure: error: Package requirements (pygobject-3.0) were not met:
[14:01] <odra> gusch: did you install python3-gi?
[14:01] <odra> I'm fairly sure that was the package for pygobject-3.0 :S
[14:01] <odra> (then again I just guessed it)
[14:01] <gusch> odra: yes - is installed
[14:02] <odra> How confusing D:
[14:02] <odra> Why are there so many packages with similar names.
[14:04] <odra> Hmm :/
[14:04] <odra> I haven't got the slightest idea of what packages my program needs.
[14:04] <odra> I guess it can't be installed after all.
[14:08] <m_tadeu> hi
[14:08] <m_tadeu> if an application has a custom lib dir (like /usr/lib/myapp) to store .so files that are specific to the app, how should I proceed?if nothing is done, ldd doesn't find the .so files...adding the path in /etc/ld.so.conf.d works but, seems wrong by yhe debian specs
[14:10] <m_tadeu> rpath's are also discouraged
[15:00] <oSoMoN> kenvandine: ping
[15:04] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, pong
[15:13] <odra> oSoMoN, kenvandine: pang
[15:15]  * oSoMoN is hit
[16:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: how do the whole translations look in the component ?
[16:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: that was the part i had the most concerns about
[16:23] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: not looked at it yet
[16:23] <oSoMoN> will do later
[16:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so if I understand you correctly, you want the webbrowser component to be able to display pages and allow the user to enter addresses, but have history not exposed ? how would you separate that ?
[16:32] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I don’t even see a use case for letting the user enter an address, I think the address bar would be read-only (at least by default)
[16:33] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: and I would achieve that by having a webview+chrome component, and the rest be part of the app
[16:33] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so what's the point to even have it ? either the browser is a just pure viewer or it has also navigation controls
[16:33] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: the point is explained in the use cases document
[16:34] <oSoMoN> which is where we should have started, frankly
[16:35] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: most apps embedding the component will use it as a view-only thing, not a full-fledged browser
[16:36] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: if an app needs a full-fledged browser, then it shouldn’t embed it, it should make an external call to it
[16:36] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: what of the use cases needs a chrome ? friends don't seem to need it
[16:36] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: the webapps container will need it
[16:37] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: it's not in the uses case document, is it ?
[16:37] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: no, but I’ll add it right away
[16:37] <gusch> boiko: I fixed the typo (and the crash resulting of the trunk merge) https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-more-loaders/+merge/172116
[16:37] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: cool, thanks
[16:37] <boiko> gusch: great! I will give it a try in a few minutes
[16:39] <gusch> boiko: cool
[16:42] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: done
[16:43] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: makes sense to me
[17:15] <mspencer> I'm almost ready to upload an application to sell in the Software Center. It is a cmake-based KDE program licensed under the GPLv3, but requires a secret api-key for a web-servie when compiled. What would be the best format to upload it?
[17:24] <iBelieve> oops, typo, should be "api-key for a  web-service"
[17:31] <dpm> iBelieve, check out http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/licence-key-infrastructure/
[17:39] <iBelieve> dpm, will that work with having one key for every installation of the app?
[17:41] <iBelieve> dpm, my understanding is that the license key infrastructure is for verifying if the user actually bought the app. My api key is a single api key for all instances of my app the gives it access to a web service.
[18:16] <xzcvczx> lol, if he returns someone might want to tell him if he uses a single api key for each user then if popular it won't be secret for long