[00:50] <mijk> any games ported to arm??
[01:50] <mijk> everyone idling?
[01:50] <mijk> american idle?
[02:04] <maxinux> idle party!
[09:56] <sire> have you tried ubuntu 12.04 on the cubieboard?
[13:37] <mijk_> anyone know of any good games ported to ARM linux?
[13:45] <XorA> Carmageddon
[13:45] <mijk_>  cool lol
[13:46] <mijk_> I've trie looking for a list but none seem to exist
[13:46] <XorA> Quake, Doom, Heretic, Hexen, etc etc
[13:46] <mijk_> Ithink Doom 3 is
[14:09] <LetoThe2nd> emacs' elize.
[14:11] <mijk_> Half-Life would be awesome on ARM linux
[14:16] <XorA> I guess that will happen when thingymabobbers can make the Steam box really cheap using nvidia tech
[14:19] <mijk_> someone should make a list of games/apps porte to ARM linux
[14:20] <XorA> mijk_: that list is the same as games ported to Linux
[14:21] <XorA> minus the obvious valve ones
[14:27] <mijk_> evry game will crosscompile to ARM??
[14:31] <XorA> if we have sourcecode it will
[14:31] <XorA> main issue on arm is lack of decent GL drivers
[14:31] <mijk_> only OpenGL ES?
[14:32] <XorA> mijk_: even they tend to be second class!
[14:32] <mijk_> open glez? or opengles?
[14:32] <mijk_> ouch, my opengles!
[14:38] <XorA> we pray to Gods like Rob Clark for freedreno and whoever does Lima for opening arm to gaming!
[15:04] <ogra_> XorA, Mir will surely solve all first world probs here :P
[15:06] <XorA> ogra_: thats only really a part time hack as its build on delicate binary drivers
[15:07] <XorA> ogra_: although Im impressed with Mirs progress
[15:09] <ogra_> XorA, well, sort term i doubt you will find ubuntu images that dont use boinary blobs on arm (and the lxc container for the android HAL)
[15:10] <ogra_> s/sort/short/
[15:10] <ogra_> so whatever has the android container will have full HW support through Mir to get GLES as well as codecs just working
[15:11] <XorA> ogra_: but I see hideousness in GL rendering even in Android :-D
[15:11] <ogra_> with plain Mir it shouldnt be a prob, not so sure about XMir on arm though
[15:11] <XorA> ogra_: Mir can only ever be as good as its base, and at the moment that base sucks!
[15:12] <ogra_> well, it works fine with surfaceflinger
[15:12] <ogra_> and i havent heard of regressions with Mir vs SF
[15:12] <ogra_> in the arm case Mir is just a 1:1 replacement for SF
[15:13] <ogra_> indeed, if the vendor blob drivers suck, there isnt much to fix :)
[15:14] <XorA> ogra_: thats my main issue, when I try 3d games, they tend to misrender a lot on a lot of devices
[15:14] <ogra_> ah
[15:14] <XorA> Nexus 4 seems to do ok though!
[15:15] <ogra_> yeah, well, we support like 50 sdevices now (well, the community does) ... but yeah nexus should all work
[15:15] <XorA> these embedded GFX drivers are currently second class in a lot of manufacturers I think, I guess this will change if Android gaming market becomes real $$$
[15:15] <ogra_> even gnex
[15:15] <ogra_> ouya will save us all !
[15:15] <ogra_> :)
[15:16] <XorA> I think the best thing would be a Steambox arm, Valve kicked x86 vendors butts, they need to do arm now :-D
[15:16] <ogra_> yeah
[15:16] <ogra_> ++ on that
[15:16] <ogra_> i suspect they are waiting for Mir here though
[15:16] <ogra_> so they can just use the drivers for now
[15:17] <ogra_> (and kick the butss for actual issues they find)
[15:17] <ogra_> *butts
[15:17] <XorA> hmm, half life on me tablet :-D
[15:18] <ogra_> HL2 rather :)
[15:19] <ogra_> and TF2 with oculus rift on your phone !!!
[15:19] <XorA> ogra_: Blueshift was my favourite
[15:19]  * ogra_ has a CD of that somewhere in a box
[15:20] <XorA> ogra_: Add any HL game to steam and you get them all for free :-D
[15:20] <ogra_> yeah i have a ton of steam games i bought and still didnt even play once
[15:20] <ogra_> HL being among them
[15:20] <XorA> I figure it must be becuase the original HL/Opposing force had no CD keys
[15:20] <XorA> or at least my ones don't
[15:20] <ogra_> my blueshift CD does
[15:21] <XorA> yeah blueshift is the only one that does in my collection
[19:11] <deegee_1> hi all, is there a way or a howto; to reloading lubuntu onto the nand of pcduino? if the os on nand is not booting up. read through the pcduino user guide alreaady. tnx